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What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso here from Talking with the Source.
I'm here with my host, Jonathan Keyworth of JK47 Paranormal Investigations. What is up my brother?
What's going on dude? Fabulous Sunday to you.
Yeah man, I tell you what, I'm so used to the Sunday right now relaxing that I almost said the wrong thing in the beginning.
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So we are back and basically we are live on Parapost Network Central on Paralynx Plus. So we just want to say shout out to them.
And if you guys weren't here for the last time that we had this skull experiment up, a little bit background of what you're about to see is some footage from the skull experiment that was from England.
That four mediums or I believe a certain amount of mediums got together for about a year or years.
I think it was four or five of them.
Yeah, four or five of them got together and they did this experiment where they channeled their spirit guides and they actually manifested in the room.
And you'll see evidence of it. It's absolutely amazing. It's one of the best experiments ever.
As well as seeing Marcello Bacci who used a shortwave radio to connect with spirit, the most clear communication known to man to this day.
You know what's cool dude? Real quick. I'm sorry to interrupt. You know what's cool is how their spirit guides became like this group.
And that's what Steve-O does. You know, he has a group of spirits and they I forgot the name that they called themselves. But that's what Steve-O does as well.
Yeah. And basically like the evidence they were catching throughout this experiment over the years in the 90s has been absolutely crazy.
And not a lot of people have paid attention to it because it was so long ago. But you know what? We'll share some of it right now. This is going to be the part two of what we showed.
The tape and mirrors came from their spirit communicators. They were told to set up a video camera in the dark cellar. Aim it at a pair of mirrors so that it could only film its own viewfinder.
While it was recording, nothing unusual was seen. When the tape was played back, these remarkable pictures appeared.
And the images on the video sometimes of what looked like a ton of light.
It's so crazy.
Other times spirit faces were coming towards us.
I should try that dude.
Sometimes what appeared to be a doorway moving.
And these images were created by video feedback occurring when a camera records its own output.
But scientists have ruled this out. Video feedback doesn't produce this kind of result.
As to what these extraordinary pictures represent, we can only guess since their meaning was never explained to the Skoll group.
This video, also totally unexplained, appears to be a ghostly face with moving eyes.
Later, a few video experiments were attempted in full light. Again, nothing unusual was seen during the recording.
However, on playback, this unworldly figure appeared.
Do you think digital cameras can get that?
Or do you think that the FBI is able to?
Well, that's the thing.
Not according to the investigator who monitored these experiments.
They were getting it from like regular, back in the 90s cameras.
So for them to get this type of evidence was pretty crazy.
Hey, what's up Nando?
What's up Nando?
This type of evidence was amazing to get in the 90s because they were doing it with film.
Well, that was their highest technology then. Was the 120mm camera.
Exactly.
Swiss lawyer and businessman Dr Hans Scher.
There's absolutely no possibility that this film could have been prepared before.
I created one of the video films which was in its original packaging, which I opened.
I took the film out, I signed the film and I put it personally in the video camera.
He inserted it into the camera. We never touched at any stage the camera or the film.
When we played the film, it showed at the beginning a number of bubbles of various colours.
There was one particular bubble in which the face of a person appeared. It was a man with spectacles.
Dr Scher did not recognise this face.
The Skoll Group thought it might have belonged to someone who was trying to communicate with him from the afterlife.
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I have heard that the voice of a man with spectacles is one of the most disturbing and unnerving aspects of their being an afterlife.
Attempting to capture spirit voices via technical devices like radios and tape recorders has a long tradition that goes back to the last century.
Today there are tens of thousands of people around the world who say they have captured the voices of the dead on simple tape recorders.
This is known as the electronic voice phenomena or EVP and was recently popularised in the Hollywood blockbuster White Noise.
I like that movie.
Pen and bacon, baby.
Despite the Hollywood treatment, EVP has been the focus of serious scientific investigation.
One of the leading researchers is Alexander McCray, an electronics engineer who has worked on communication systems for the Space Shuttle.
He has been investigating EVP for decades.
If somebody came up to me in the street and said there's nothing paranormal about EVP, I would say, well, I've done at least 20 years and hundreds of experiments and I know that it is a paranormal effect.
Now, how many experiments have you done?
But skeptics insist that EVP is nothing more than the random pick-up of broadcast signals like radio and TV.
To test this theory, McCray tried to obtain EVP inside a laboratory that was fully shielded against radio and sound waves.
This meant it was impossible to pick up any stray broadcast signals.
So inside the laboratory you couldn't pick up anything, but yet the device still produced voices.
Although this audio sample is hard to understand, the very fact it was recorded defies all known laws of science.
One experimenter of EVP is Vicki Talbot, who lost her son, Brayden, in a boating accident in 2001.
Okay, I'm coming down into Wildcat Cove right now, which is the cove that my son departed from and did not return.
Ever since then, she says she can record and recognize his voice using this digital recorder.
Well, that's Brayden.
What has really convinced me is the way he speaks, the stress, the intonation.
Sometimes he sounds exactly as he did in life.
He will use certain phrases that we used to use.
He will say certain things that will identify himself as the person that he was in life.
I am convinced personally that I am communicating with my son.
Like visitors to Skoll and to Batchelor, EVP practitioners find comfort in the belief that they can still communicate with their son.
So just to let you guys know that that's what I do.
Like if you guys want a reading, I can do that.
I've done it for many people like Susan.
And, you know, I don't wish to keep doing it for you as much as I want to.
But I want you guys to realize that this power, this connection is within you.
You just have to believe in yourself.
You just have to believe in your heart and mind when you're doing these sessions to bring spirit to you.
And it's just amazing.
It truly is.
And everybody can do this.
And I don't think people really realize that.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's all in you.
You got to believe in yourself in your heart and mind.
Once those are aligned, you're going to get the crazy responses.
Loved ones.
But even this conviction can't make up for the unbearable burden of losing a child.
These just make me want to cry.
Just looking at him.
You know, this never be this age again.
Or do that again.
What matters is the love that you have for your family.
That's what really matters.
And not to screw it up.
And to remember they could be gone in a flash.
You know, these other people, I feel so sorry for them because they have no way of communicating with those that they have lost.
And they go around thinking, if only, if only, if only.
Yeah, if only.
I don't have to think that.
Nobody does.
That's a good thing.
And see, technology is so advanced now.
Although EDP provides some comfort to the bereaved, practitioners say that the voices are often unclear.
Always one way and frustratingly short.
The ancient Egyptians understood that they could use sound to reduce their weight.
They should pay us.
But see, you see how they just said, how science has said, you know, it's always short and they're very unclear and all this type of stuff.
That's not true because there's very clear EVPs out there that are very advanced.
As technology advances, it's very difficult to understand.
As technology advances, it's getting clearer and clearer.
You know, with the D noise and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, people are using the Panasonic VR 60 in this film, and that's a very controversial recorder because even though it picks up easier EVPs because of something that's broken inside of it, it also produces terrible sounding EVPs.
So sometimes very good ones, but most of the time not very clear ones.
So that's why they're going off of that, which I don't feel is a smart thing because this is an older video.
They're doing that.
But nowadays, you know, there's we're getting clearer and clearer EVPs.
And how do you explain that with science?
You know, so, so I, if anybody out there has a DR 60 with some EVPs, send them to me.
I want to put them through the technology that we have now.
I would love this problem that the technology of the piano Panasonic VR 60, you can't hook it up to a computer.
So you'd have to you'd have to rerecord it onto a computer and then send it, which makes it even more harder to to pick out the noise, like pick out the sentences and type of stuff.
So that's the hardest part about that technology.
Well, I'd love to see the comparison.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
One way that we also communicated with Spirit, and which was a very effective way, was by use of an ordinary, very cheap tape recorder whose amplifiers were used by the Spirit team.
We inspected this machine and found it was completely normal.
Earlier, its built in microphone had been removed to eliminate the possibility of recording anything.
When the machine, which contained a blank cassette, was activated, witnesses were astonished when they heard this voice asking them a question.
Oh, it's Perenac corporate.
Yes.
The microphone.
No, that's the thing.
The question is, is that that was recorded and then played back for everyone.
So the question is that Spirit, they're not using a microphone, they're using energy and some frequency to change and manipulate these things for us to understand them, which I find absolutely amazing because that was so clear.
Yeah, that was real clear with no microphone.
With a cheap digital recorder.
No, that was with cassette.
They just said it was a cassette recorder, cassette recorder, whatever, same thing.
These are improving their experiments.
For example, they told Professor Ellison, one of the SPR scientists, how to build a device for boosting communications via the tape recorder.
Yeah, that's correct Chris.
But this information arrived in a very strange way.
These images appeared after an unexposed film locked in the security box was later processed by the scientists.
The scientists speculated about who was providing this technical information.
But then initials at the end of the film seem to have solved this mystery. I wrote to the Edison Memorial people in America, and they sent me a copy of one of his letters, which contained his initials, which look almost identical to the signature on this film.
This matching set of initials convinced the researchers it was Thomas Edison providing this information.
Now, Edison was right before he died, was making a, he was in a race with Nikola Tesla and other inventors to make a ghost phone.
So it's amazing that he might have came back to tell them to use Germanium and to use this device that he created.
I have some, dude. I know, I know.
I use it with all my sessions. I bought it online.
It's element 32, geranium. That's what they built this out of. That's, that's awesome.
He also had an enormous interest in the possibility of an afterlife.
His intention to build a machine that could communicate with the dead made headlines around the world, but he died before being able to build it.
Is it possible that through the Skoll Group, he finally achieved the same?
What if that's what it is? Right? Right?
What if I told you that you can use good old, what if I told you, right?
For example, you can create a professional opener just like this.
Spirit voices speaking through the mediums, spirit communication written on sealed film in locked boxes, all these incredible phenomena.
But could the scientists have been tricked?
Skeptics are often unaware of the amount of experience and the amount of knowledge that goes into investigations of this kind.
Between the three investigators, you could say we've had 50 years and more. We know all the tricks.
I don't see how it could be faked. It's impossible.
Nevertheless, was it possible for the Skoll Group to have perpetrated a mass of hopes?
These things are so extraordinary that when one tells them to people who've not had the experiences themselves, they think it must be trickery.
And the challenge then always is, OK, you duplicate it.
But so far, no one has been able to do this.
Nevertheless, critics still claim that the events at Skoll were produced by the kinds of conjuring tricks used by stage magicians and entertainers.
You found them in this manner like this.
Because professional magicians learn all the skills of illusion and misdirection.
I'm not going to show you how it's done, because if I showed you how it was done, you'd tell anybody else.
They are also well qualified to detect this type of fraud.
With that in mind, James Webster was invited to scrutinise a number of Skoll sessions.
Webster is a member of the Magic Circle in Britain and has been a professional magician for over 40 years.
Well, I had an opportunity to view the cellar. I could see no magic props or anything which made me feel inclined, think there was any hoaxing or trickery.
But could he replicate the events at Skoll?
I could not do it myself as a professional magician.
I don't believe in any magician that I knew could do even the lighting, let alone the other phenomena that I witnessed.
Anyone who...
I'm going to point it while I do a session.
I'm not going to do this here for nothing. They could be earning a million dollars out there on the stage.
In 1999, after an exhaustive two-year investigation, the investigators published their conclusions in the SPR's official proceedings.
They were looking for evidence of a hoax. They sifted evidence for signs of fakery. But did they find it?
If you take all the phenomena within the whole of the Skoll experiment over two years while we were there, I would say that the possibility of fraud and faking was nil.
Although the Skoll reporting from its theoretical discussions about how individual phenomena might have been faked,
the chief investigators concluded that events at Skoll cannot be explained either by known scientific laws or by trickery.
But psychology professor Chris French, the co-editor of Skeptic magazine, remains unconvinced.
There's lots of claimed evidence for life after death coming from lots of different sources.
The debate should be about the quality of the evidence. At the moment, on the basis of the available evidence, I'm not at all convinced that there is such a thing as life after death.
I think the skeptics regard the possibility of the survival of human consciousness as inherently so impossible that anyone must be rather crazy to believe it.
But when you look at the evidence, you have to ask yourself whether you'd be even more crazy not to believe it or to find some alternative explanation which makes any sort of sense. And I haven't found one.
Dr. Solomon.
When we die, we go into another world, a lot of world, 3665 world. Because I read it in the Bible.
News of the amazing events at Skoll spread around the world. In 1997, they were invited to her sessions in four European countries and the United States.
Some of the most successful sessions occurred in the Los Angeles home of Brian Hirst.
We wanted to see whether it could also take place so many thousands of miles away from Skoll here in Southern California.
Hirst's converted garage was the venue for eight sessions, as many as 30 people attended each one.
Before each session, investigators carefully inspected the room.
Many people went in at different times before the sessions and there was no paraphernalia. There was nothing hidden there at all.
Despite being interviewed a decade after the Skoll experiment, these witnesses are still profoundly moved by what they saw.
There was so much phenomena going on. It was really overwhelming.
As with most sessions, visitors began by sitting quietly in total darkness. Then they started hearing the voices of the spirit team speaking through the mediums.
Then the darkened room burst into life.
And then it would go up to the rafters of the garage and come down and thunk hard like a big rock hitting the table and then disappear.
As well as these amazing balls of light, furniture in the room began to move.
We had a table in the center of the room that had crystals on it. It's moving. The table is indeed levitating.
The table levitated, was turned on its side and began to spin very rapidly. The crystals never fell off.
Even if they had crystals on the table, it would have been impossible to have turned the table sideways and rotated it with the speed at which it rotated.
And we could see this because there were luminescent strips on the table.
And it began to spin around actually so rapidly it almost looked like a pinwheel.
Wow. Can you imagine seeing that?
I would be so excited, dude.
Someone for Charlie.
Dad? Hi, Dad.
I really do feel that my dad came and he was the one who put his hands on my shoulders.
The way we were situated in the room, my chair was right up against a wall and there was no way another person could be behind me.
Did you see it? It gave the punch symbol.
You're not ready for it.
Oh, you looked. You're going to get punched by spirits.
Then another hand appeared in front of them. But who did it belong to?
There was a particular communicator called Reg Lawrence, who was an engineer in his lifetime and who became very expert at producing voices from midair.
Hello, Reg. Hello, Brian. Very nice of you to have us here.
He just touched my hand. Oh, yes. Oh, he's stroking it. It's slightly cold, but it's flesh. He's shaking my hand. Oh my God.
You've made my ear.
You've made mine.
As usual, Lawrence did not communicate through the mediums. Instead, the group could hear his voice projected from different parts of the room.
Some of the voices were moving around the room, even high up in the rafter area that somebody would have had to climb up on a ladder to get up there. And there's no way that that was happening.
The spirit team also came to be regarded as healers by the participants.
What's going on inside you that light in my chest right now? Right there on my heart. I have a little bit of a heart problem.
I was diagnosed with cancer and a very fast moving dangerous cancer. I sat with school and probably two to three weeks later I had biopsies again, and they came back completely negative.
Attending the LA session says the experience changed their lives forever.
You're right.
We've asked so many times, dude. We've asked that question like eight times and it's always come back the same.
Yeah.
When you walk out of that room.
You definitely feel like you've been exposed to something very extraordinary.
We actually saw the spirits.
And that's got to be positive evidence for survival.
We do live on after death.
They certainly proved that to us that night.
Being survived in Auschwitz.
And also my parents were killed in Auschwitz, including my 11 year old brother was killed on arrival with my parents.
And I just cannot accept that that should be the end of them.
Previously, we have shown how experiments at school and with battery provide powerful evidence for life after death.
But some researchers think there may be another possible explanation.
Some of the remarkable events shown in this film be the result of human paranormal abilities like psychokinesis, the claimed ability of the mind to directly affect matter.
There's an enormous amount of evidence for the existence of psychokinesis in the laboratory.
We're talking mainly about the evidence of human consciousness on random number generators and very small events that can be totally controlled.
There is clear evidence that people can affect.
One of the most famous practitioners of psychokinesis or PK.
Yeah, that was done on a 35 millimeter film that they locked in the box and they developed.
Colaghan was able to demonstrate her abilities under strictly controlled conditions in front of a team of scientists.
Researchers who investigated her were convinced she was able to do this solely by the power of her mind.
So could the school group and their visitors unwittingly have created some or all of the phenomena using mind over matter as an explanation?
Although it's not more than just simply a label to it, this is psychokinesis in physical mediumship,
whether it is a spirit working through someone, a spirit acting directly on an object or the medium's mind causing the things to move.
Say there were real mind over matter effects going on as opposed to country tricks.
Then how do we know they were coming from the minds of the disembodied people rather than from the minds of the mediums who were sitting in the room?
There is no definitive answer to this question.
But the theory that these phenomena were due solely to psychokinesis from the living seems improbable since PK produced in laboratories tends to be weak.
Therefore, mind over matter from the living is unlikely to explain the huge range of phenomena featured in this film.
Emily, when did you live on the earth?
A long time ago now.
19th century?
Yes.
We simply have a number of clues of information which was extremely unlikely to have derived from the subconscious mind or the conscious mind of the medium.
And the more impressive those are, the less likely it is that you can say that this is an aspect of mediumship.
And the more likely it is, it's an aspect of discarnate communication.
Previously, we traveled with the Skoll Group to Italy where they first met with Marcello Bacci.
They say they were able to talk to the spirit via his radio.
Come on, who's this? Come on on here.
What is the answer to this question from the Times Street?
Times Street?
But when the Skoll Group visited Bacci in a later session, he was having problems.
For months, hundreds of people who came from around the world in the hope of hearing their dead loved ones were bitterly disappointed.
All they heard was static.
Bacci was depressed.
He feared he had lost his unique talent.
Dude, and that depression is what lowered his frequency, dude.
I don't think he, I think once that happened, he was so embarrassed that that opened up a whole nother door and it just just lowered his frequency.
You know what I mean? He just did it because that's happened to me a number of times when I've gone live.
Like I've had shitty friggin sessions, man.
And it was because something happened that that triggered something and it brought that energy down.
Yeah, it blocks your connection.
Yeah.
Dark cameras rolled in an interview with Bacci.
The radio, which had been silent for so long, burst into life.
Shut up!
What the hell are you doing?
Shut up!
Bacci, now you're going to be in jail.
I told you, I'm not going to be silent.
And they're speaking in Italian, this native language.
Yeah.
Grazie, Gregorio.
Bacci's drought was over.
When the radio voice stopped, there was celebration.
Mamma mia!
Bacci felt he'd regained his ability to communicate with the spirits.
But then joy turned to disappointment as he thought he had failed to record the voice.
Madonna, non è partito.
No.
No, era partito, lo spento io.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, but I tell you what, watch.
No, no, no, no.
Once the recording was transcribed, Bacci told us the voice belonged to a spirit called Gregorio,
a Catholic friar who had died many years ago.
Later, independent researcher Dr. Torriello read the last part of this ghostly message.
Man, he passed his time just deceiving himself.
Okay.
But when all of you, you will be here where we are, okay, then you will find answer to all your questions.
I'm sorry, I cannot say more.
Recordings just got better.
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I'm so excited to announce that local recordings are now available.
We do look down on our friends and loved ones after we die until such time as we move on to some other dimension.
I think you can take what you like, really.
Despite the evidence from Skoll and Bacci,
most scientists still refuse to even consider the possibility that consciousness might survive death.
Dr. Rupert Sheldrake, the internationally renowned biologist and Skoll investigator, offers an explanation.
There's a dominant materialism in science that grew up in the 19th century.
It's become part of the culture of science, but it's really a dominant...
Spirit communicates in the language that we understand.
What this means is that scientists have become completely focused.
Yeah, to answer your question, I believe that it doesn't matter where we are in the world.
I believe that spirit can understand us and they will speak in the language that we need to hear them and that we understand.
You got to realize, Chris, is that the words we speak is all manmade.
It's all made in this physical realm.
That's how spirits are able to know the different communications,
because they're able to tap into your energy and your physical being to make you understand what they're saying.
So, you know, if say some guy in China wanted to talk to my brother,
my brother would speak Chinese to him because it's that connection between spirit and mind.
On the things they can both measure and replicate in labs.
Within science, based on a materialist point of view, the mind is the brain.
So anything that suggests the mind might be more than the brain goes against the theory.
Whatever you understand, whatever the physical being asking the question...
Another prominent scientist not convinced that consciousness is solely the result of brain activity is Dr. Charles Tart.
That's just a small part of the spectrum.
Dr. Tart is Emeritus Professor of Psychology at the University of California
and a leading researcher into the evidence for life after death.
The idea that survival of bodily death is impossible, that we're nothing but our brains and bodies,
is really a function of an outmoded view in science, a Newtonian worldview.
Now, the Newtonian worldview works very well for everyday events.
But one of the most interesting things about modern science,
especially when you look at stuff like quantum theory,
is that the world is far more mysterious than we think.
We now have experimental evidence of what Einstein called spooky action at a distance.
That we can instantaneously affect something in a distant part of the universe.
That's really wild.
If consciousness has any of the qualities of this quantum level of existence,
then phenomena like survival of bodily death are probably not so mysterious after all.
But could quantum theory explain one of the most shocking experiments conducted at school?
This particular experiment was perhaps the most important experiment of the whole series.
Previously, we showed how visitors reported seeing these balls of light appear before them.
It's like fireworks!
On this occasion, one of them flew inside a large quartz crystal.
The crystal then levitated, you could see it glowing, and then descended into a pyrex bowl.
Then Arthur Ellison was invited to pick it up.
He picked it up and satisfied himself that it was there and it was glowing, and he put it down again.
He was asked right away to pick it up again.
He tried to, and his fingers closed right over it.
It dematerialized.
There's nothing there, it looks so silly, but there's nothing there.
Then he was asked to pick it up again and it rematerialized in his hand.
Oh, I can feel the crystal right there.
This dumbfounded him.
This is what finally convinced him that this was real because it couldn't have been faked in any way.
And he had his head right over the top of the bowl in order to ensure that no hand or no instrument could interfere with it.
Of course, we were totally amazed by this.
Things do not materialize and dematerialize.
This is against all the laws of nature.
We are trained scientists, of course.
We know how the world behaves, and it doesn't behave like that.
What do you really think when we're experiencing that?
It's absolutely amazing.
Miracle, yes.
But what does this remarkable demonstration tell us about what might happen after death?
The spirit team told us that the experiment with the crystal in the bowl gave a good example of what happened when we die.
In that the essence of the crystal remained even when the physical part of the crystal had been removed.
Our bodies represent the physical part, but the essence of ourselves remains the same.
This, if you like, can be termed the soul.
I believe in the possibility of life after death.
What do I think would happen after?
I don't know.
I just don't know, do you?
Well, I don't particularly want to have anything other than pure death, and I would rather not believe in survival.
But I find it impossible to be intellectually honest and not believe in survival.
Tragically, during the production of this film, Montague Keane died.
These are those rhombohedron crystals in your pineal gland.
When those crystals become electrically activated, all of a sudden they start calling energy back to them, and they begin to build their own electromagnetic.
Damn commercials.
But this gave us the opportunity of testing whether or not he actually got his wish for oblivion.
This came in the form of Alison Dubois.
Dubois has become one of the most famous mediums in the world after her abilities were dramatized in the hit TV show Medium.
When things come through that strong, you can't give up.
We visited the University of Arizona where scientists were testing the abilities of America's top mediums.
Here we challenged Alison Dubois to contact the spirit of Montague Keane.
Thank you, Pam.
She was able to conduct her mediumship in full light in front of the camera with two researchers seated behind asking questions.
Do you have any idea what this person is?
Dubois wasn't given any information about Keane.
The only thing she was told was the first name of Keane's widow, Veronica.
The fact that he gets to still be here around the people he loved is huge to him.
Although many of Dubois' statements were vague, some were astonishingly accurate.
He went down at a podium or no.
He's showing a man falling at the podium like and falls and he goes down at the podium.
Okay.
This is important.
It's like an assembly.
On the night of his death, Keane was taking part in a debate at the Royal Society of Arts in London.
While defending his position, his voice faltered mid-sentence and he died.
I mean, you're saying I'm just going to be here.
Take a rest.
That's crazy.
No, I don't even know what it means.
I mean, he's making me feel like either he had a heart attack or his breath was taken from him.
But he's showing him knees buckling and going down.
Is there a doctor in the house?
People jumping up, like everybody rising.
He goes down and they go up.
Right.
Also, there would have been like a banner announcement or a banner hanging of what this conference was or whatever it was.
He's kind of laughing and he's like, way to go out, way to leave this world right there and then.
Dubois stated that Keane is now as interested in communicating with the living as he once was in talking to the dead.
To try and understand better, like to understand the other side, what you guys are seeing that's right and what's not right.
To try to talk to him, dude.
Yeah.
I do believe in an afterlife.
I'm not sure what that life will look like if we just go back into the source.
But I just kind of live my life like we'll see when we get there.
Chris agrees.
Although some researchers continue to question whether the experiments featured in this film represent convincing evidence for an afterlife.
For the leading investigators and participants, there is little doubt it does.
We actually saw the sermons.
Get in the fucking room.
Right or left?
Right.
We simply believe that we've gone back to what we've been doing.
Emily, when did you live on the earth?
Oh, a long time ago now.
19th century?
Yes.
I think we were pushing the barriers further than ever been pushed before.
And I think we just got to the stage where at that time we couldn't go any further.
In 1998, after five years and 500 sessions, the Skoll experiment finally came to an end.
The Skoll experiment may be over.
But today in Italy, grieving parents continue to report hearing the voices of their dead children on Bacchi's radio.
And Vicky Talbot says she continues to receive the voice of her deceased son, Brayden, via EVP.
But the debate about the authenticity and significance of this evidence continues to rage.
Now according to science, when you physically die and when your brain stops functioning, that is it.
That is the end.
The experiences that I've had have convinced me that it is very difficult to explain.
Yeah, it's essentially a portal.
It's a big frequency and energy.
You're not going to win everybody.
I mean, you're not going to be able to ever have everybody believe that there's another side.
That's just not going to happen.
The hope and significance of those experiments will literally be to make people think, to stop and think,
to look at their own lives, to look at where they're going, perhaps to be better people.
That was amazing, dude.
That was so amazing, dude.
I'm glad we got a chance to finish that.
Exactly.
And what it brings up is a lot of questions and a lot of answers.
Like, you know, there's you figure all these mediums got together and they were able to get Spirit to do such amazing things.
And they allowed them to record it, which I thought was absolutely amazing.
And then getting scientists involved and having scientists, you know, show the evidence and show that, you know,
they didn't mess with it at all. It's just crazy.
Yes, we true.
Yeah, I've run into a few. They called me things.
Totally true. Totally true.
He got called a name in his graveyard.
Yeah, I got called an ass crack. So I totally get it.
But if you want to check out that that full documentary again, just type in the skull experiment.
It's called the afterlife investigations.
You'll be able to check it out with more cello Bocci, who does a lot of work for cello Bocci recently passed away.
But his family is still doing his work till this day in Italy.
And it's absolutely amazing. His work and his documentary.
So check it out on YouTube. But thank you guys for watching it with us.
But do you have anything else you want to say, man?
No, I'm just I'm real excited.
Spirit guided me today to find the old sheriff of the cold case I'm working on.
So I'm going to be reaching out to him to see if any of this makes sense or if he has any questions that I should ask that kind of prove his
because his skepticism, because I find that people aren't on the initial conversation.
They're not accepting of it, like just like in the school experiment.
So if he had questions, if I could get the answer to prove that that would help them out, you know, it's all about helping out spirit.
And that's that's what I'm going to do. So yeah, well.
Yeah, I would love to AJ and me to create an experiment like this, you know, that would be cool if he's in Connecticut and I'm here and we can do this.
That would be cool, man. Yeah, no, definitely.
That would be absolutely something awesome to do for sure.
I mean, we're hopefully working towards it.
I mean, what we're doing now and how we can teach people to, you know, get their connection down and to use these, you know, spirit devices is something that is very big to us.
So who knows? Maybe it'll expand and maybe spirit will do something amazing along those lines, just like they did for Skull experiment.
Dude, I want to get one of those old cameras.
I have to try that out to see if anything would show up, like just do it live, like hold the camera.
People see me unwrapping the tape, put it in there and they can see me putting it on the thing and hit and record.
That'd be crazy, dude. I'd love to see if I get anything.
Yeah, it was absolutely amazing to see that.
I mean, if spirits are portals, I mean, they definitely caught something, you know?
Yeah. So. But. Anyway, so thank you guys for watching.
My name's AJ Capasso of Talking with the Source.
I'm with Jonathan Keyworth of JK 47 Paranormal Investigations.
Real quick, shout out your podcast.
Oh, yeah. So Tuesdays at 12 p.m. Mountain Time, so 2 p.m. Eastern.
I do targeting with the JK 47 and I work on cold cases live.
So I do live sessions and then I'll review it and I'll put the clips in.
If you guys go to my YouTube or my Facebook page, even my tick tock, you can you can see what we've been working on.
So this next session will be session five for the Jameson family.
They're a family that went missing in 2009 and they were found their bones.
And what was left over was found four years later by some hunters.
So check it out, guys. It's fun. Awesome.
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Messenger, leave a comment of the cold case you want.
Yeah, contact J.K. and he'll definitely help you out.
So but thank you guys so much for watching.
It's been another episode of Talking with the Source till next time.
Thank you so much. Love and light, guys. Love and light.