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Hello everybody, this is AJ Capasso here from Talking With The Source.

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I'm here with my co-host and great friend, Jonathan Geworth of JK 47 Paranormal and Targeting With The JK on Tuesday's noon mountain time.

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There you go, you heard it first.

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Well guys, today we have an amazing guest on. First, I want to give a shout out like always to an amazing company out here in Connecticut in the USA.

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So hit him up at 203-707-7077 for a detail or a paint correction in your car. He does an amazing job and he is a great kid.

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I'm super proud of this kid so that's why I shot him out.

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How are you, Sun Dragon? How are you? Thank you so much for joining us.

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But today we have an amazing guest. He has a podcast called The Cemetery Files out right now. It's on all platforms.

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He is a medium and he is also a paranormal researcher like us. His name is Jay Hill. Let me bring him forward.

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Hey.

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How are you?

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Hey.

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Great, great. So Jay, like I ask everybody as I start is how did you get into the paranormal, my friend?

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Like what got you into it? Did you start as a kid or did something happen?

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I grew up with it. Yeah, I grew up with it ever since I can remember.

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I mean it was probably back down when I was, you know, five or six.

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But I had my first paranormal experience, true paranormal experience when I was 16.

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Yeah, so that's when I saw my first full body apparition. Yeah.

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What was that like? Where was that at?

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It was actually the town that I live in in Lake Geneva.

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I'm about 10 miles south of that right now.

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I used to live downtown at this old big old house that actually is now a restaurant.

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It really has really good food.

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I moved from Colorado actually to back to Lake Geneva where I was born.

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And the first six months I was there, me and my sister were experiencing some major issues and doors locking and just noises,

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thumps and dogs freaking out.

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And yeah, it was just a weird vibe.

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And then one night she was standing at the foot of my bed and it was kind of funny because I was kind of mad because she woke me up.

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Yeah. Yeah. I sat up like what?

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And so yeah, it was really kind of weird.

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And that's kind of when I had had something really weird happen was right when that happened, I didn't know what she wanted.

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But when I rolled back over to sleep, you ever see those old?

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I don't know. It's kind of like it's a weird like glitch in the TV.

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And it was kind of like when I rolled over and closed my eyes, it was kind of this glitch.

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And then all of a sudden I'm standing in front of my grandfather, who I never met.

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I'm standing in front of my grandfather and on the farm and my dad's dad.

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And he was talking to me about my dad at that time.

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And my dad had actually had cancer and he was pretty sick and he had pancreatic cancer.

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So he was telling me he was like, you know, I need you know, he loves all you kids and, you know, just be there for him and, you know, help him out.

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And, you know, just and it was just weird why I would even have that dream or that vision, so to speak.

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But I do believe that I was talking with him.

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And that's when I kind of realized that I was like, I think there's something to that.

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And so I went downstairs in the morning and was telling my mom about the spirit that was at the end of my bed.

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And I was also talking to her about the dream.

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And I described the dream and she showed me a picture because I described him and I've never seen a picture of him because he died like eight years before I was born.

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Yeah, there were six years.

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And so she told me to say to never tell my dad that dream.

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I was like, OK, I won't, you know.

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So my sister had come down after that right after me and said, you'll never guess what happened.

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And the lady went and visited my sister to it at the foot of her bed.

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Wow. Yeah. So we knew that there was something there and it was it was cool.

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You know, I mean, I was OK with it.

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You know, it's so crazy that you brought up her standing at the foot of your bed like that, that lady,

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because when I had my apparition experience at my house and then in front of my family, she appeared as well.

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My first experience with my apparition was at the foot of my bed at night time when I was sleeping with my girlfriend.

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It happened twice. One time she opened the door and shut it.

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The second time, which I thought was my girlfriend, and I rolled into my girlfriend thinking that I was going to steal her spot when she went to the bathroom.

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But I know it wasn't her going to the bathroom.

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And then the second time I saw her at the end of the bed, it was like she was wearing a long white T-shirt, but it was soaked.

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And the scroll just had dark like hair right in front of her face.

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And I felt this like aggressive energy, but it wasn't towards me.

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The whole room electrified, but I felt the anger towards my girlfriend for some reason.

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I never understood why until I met with a medium like years ago.

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And they finally told me the reason I and I believe the reason was because we weren't supposed to be together.

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We were actually in an act of addiction at the time and we were dragging each other down.

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And I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that.

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I mean, I think it's the same kind of solid that this person was in my room.

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But the way the air felt, Jay was so electrified, it was so hard to like even describe to you.

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Like it's different than feeling the cold when it shifts in a room.

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It's so great. Right. I don't know if you've ever had an experience or visitation like that.

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But I've had I've had several different experiments or, you know, those those things that those things that have happened to me in that way.

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Yeah, I can walk into a room, you know, when I was younger and where you feel kind of beside yourself.

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It's kind of like a like something shifts.

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And that's the way I felt. I felt like I was like I was being shifted and it was just weird, weird vibes and weird everything.

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And that's, you know, I kind of go back to say that that was kind of where I was wondering where this was heading.

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And I got to the point where, yeah, I'm I have some type of gifts, but I wasn't ready to explore it because, as you know, talked about this, you know, that I've had my own vows with addictions and stuff like that.

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And so I was more running away from who I was in that sense.

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And then once I started, once it came down to me having my stroke, you know, what, 10 years, 13 years ago, I was that was it.

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You know, that was like, OK, all of it. The buck stops here. This is, you know, what's going to transpire.

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And then I my gifts kind of flourished after that. And then, you know, I started just, you know, kind of taking better care of myself and, you know,

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got away from all of the bad things of the addictions was causing me and alcohol and all that stuff.

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So that sucks that you have to live on life's terms and deal with life on life's terms. But it is what it is.

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You know, we all have to go through things and we all have to learn.

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As you know, Jay, you know, as everyone knows, I've struggled with addiction myself for a very long time. And, you know, it's something that we all just, you know, it's something that we go through in life that sucks that hopefully we make it out of.

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And, you know, both of us were very lucky that we did.

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You know, and there's a lot of people that don't. And it's very unfortunate. And I hope that that changes. I really do.

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I hope that the world can see it differently. You know, one thing I wanted to ask you was,

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did you have any other visitations growing up, like with other family members or any other people?

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Yes, actually, right. Probably five, six years ago,

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I went to see my grandmother's grave where it was right where my mom's buried.

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And because I where I live, like a third of my relatives are buried in one cemetery, you know, and so it's it's a very old cemetery.

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And I go to visit my mom and my dad sometimes. And then I, you know, walk two feet to the left and my grandparents were there, you know.

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So I was doing normal chitchat and this and that. And then I went home that night.

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And it's when, you know, things were kind of I was kind of there at the cemetery because I knew that things were changing in me spiritually and mentally.

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And I knew that how do I get, you know, where I need to go? Yeah.

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And so when I got home, you know, everything was normal. And then I went to sleep that night.

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And I don't know if I was asleep or awake. I think I was awake because I was kind of you're in between those those sleep moments, you know,

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where you're just about asleep and then you're kind of awake about in the in the entryway to my room.

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About five feet off the ground was my grandmother.

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And she was hovering over there and she had a like a white light off to the side that was illuminating her.

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And I knew that's who it was. Wow. And and I knew that that was something that I that I had to had to see.

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So after that, things kind of changed a little bit more.

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And then once I had talked to another medium, you know, I was it was early on and I was trying to figure out who my guides were and their names and this and that.

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And the one says, you know, the name. And I said, I do. And she said, my my grandmother's name is Gladys.

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And she says, well, you know, you already know Gladys. And I'm like, that's my grandmother. It's my mom.

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So she had came to visit me early on when I was just getting letting my gifts flourish.

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You know what I mean? So. So, yeah. So and then after that, then, you know, and then my mom chimes in every once in a while.

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She's usually in the back, but every once in a while I'll get an earful.

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Yeah. Now, how do you how do you hear how do you hear, see, feel them?

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Like, how does it work for you? It's more or less just a more of a thought, more of a.

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Because the fact that mostly guides will basically kind of, you know, let you do your own, you know, make your own choices and do your own stuff and all that.

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You know, I mean, they can't physically say you have to do this or you have to do that.

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It's your choice. You have you make those decisions for yourself.

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They can guide you. And that's why they're guides.

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They can say, well, you know, we suggest maybe try this or maybe try that.

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You know what I mean? So it's always been and I do the same thing when I do reading for people.

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I don't say you have to do this or you need to do this or whatever.

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I will kind of say, you know, it's up to you. But this is what I see and this is what I hear.

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You know what I mean? I don't try to direct people directly that way because that's not my job to do that.

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I'm just the messenger. Yeah.

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So so, yeah, so I basically, you know, I hear them, you know, sometimes audibly, but mostly it's it's just a thought in my head or every once while I hear my name called or something like that.

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I've always had that. Yeah. Or I will think about somebody or something in particular that I need to pay attention to.

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And that's kind of how they give me visual imagery where they'll be like, hey, you know, they won't necessarily say anything, but they'll say they'll throw a picture in my face and be like, and I where I haven't thought about it before, you know, and be like, why am I seeing this?

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And then I'll know it's a feeling more or less that I know that I need to log that into my brain and put it in the back and just hang on to it, which has usually always comes out to play.

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When I had that happen with a pink elephant once, I don't know why this pink this stuff pink elephant kept coming to me and coming to me. I'm like, OK, I get it.

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Two weeks later, I was doing a ghost tour walk with a lady in late chamber where I'm at.

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And I was doing readings after the walk and the ghost tour walk and.

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The pink elephant came up. And this kid, this this friend of mine and her son, he asked that he was like 10, 12 years old.

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He said, do you have a message for me? And I'm like, I know I've never given a message to a kid, to a child.

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You know, I mean, I was always adult and I'm like, this is different.

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And then all of a sudden, the pink elephant came to my head and I was like, oh, and then I started asking him about the pink elephant and they looked at he looked at his mom like, oh, my God.

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You know, and I was like, I'm like, ah, and then her his grandmother came through.

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And then I was like, ah, OK, well, come to find out that she had given the gift to somebody, one of the other siblings.

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But he took it because of I think he took it because of the fact that it really meant something to him.

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And she wanted to kind of let him know that it's OK to have, you know, and I give it to you and I give it to I think his sister, I think.

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But he he fell in love with it. And she was like, I'm OK with that.

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And that was basically the message that is lost. Yeah.

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So that was weird. I mean, that was really kind of odd.

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But then after that, I did like three or four readings, but not that spirits came through because I can switch gears like that where it's one minute.

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It's you know, I'm reading for somebody and a loved one to come through to the next person saying it's just a psychic reading and saying, OK, this is what you need to look forward to.

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This is what you got coming up. Yeah.

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And then I can I can read that person and I'll ask him questions like, do you do this?

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And like, oh, yeah, I do. I'm like, you should probably stop doing that, you know, and, you know, maybe focus on something that's going to be positive for you.

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So I'm kind of like more or less kind of like a spiritual guide. You know what I mean?

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Like when I give somebody advice and I try to help them, because that's the bottom line. That's what I'm doing.

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I'm help I'm trying to help somebody or I'm trying to help guide somebody because if they're in distress or some type of, you know, something's happened to them or they've lost a loved one or something.

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I'm trying to help them with the trance, you know, transcend into something more positive, you know.

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So that's the way I look at it, you know.

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So, yeah, no, definitely.

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So, so like my my first apparition I saw was was that my very first investigation, very first one.

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I did all my investigations on my own.

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I was at the House of Michigan and it was the second night and I was just walking around the house late at night, just getting some readings and stuff.

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And I was heading back to the room. I looked to the left and that was the room where her mom passed.

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And and I saw a lady in a dress with her arms crossed looking out the window and like the moonlight was lighting her up.

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She was all twinkly. And I said, Nope.

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And I turned right to my bed and I went right to bed. I put my headphones on.

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I'm like, no way, man. I was like, that's crazy.

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But I mean, that was my first investigation.

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So I helped them out and I was able to get everything good.

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So it really built, you know, that spirituality up in me and my confidence.

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And, you know, did you ever have that that one investigation where you saw something or something happened where you're like, oh, my gosh, like what's going on?

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Um, yeah, but this wasn't an investigation.

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It was something that when I was growing up, I was still in my 20s and I was going to move in at that time. I was divorced and I was I was dating a girl.

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And we were moving into an apartment together. And this was the only red house on the block.

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It was really weird. And it was so old. This place was so old.

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It had the old for the doorbell was in the middle and you had to turn it like a chime.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like back in the 50s. Yeah. Yeah.

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So I basically I did kind of a walk through this place.

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The lady that was renting the upstairs apartment said, yeah, you can just go in.

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It's unlocked. And at that time, my girlfriend wasn't wasn't there at that time.

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She was still at work. So I thought, well, I'll just walk up here and I'll, you know, go walk through and this and that.

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So that's the top of the stairs.

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The vibe changed and I was kind of like, OK, it's just it's and I thought, you know, it's just an old house.

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The one room on the left was really kind of eerie. I was like, oh, OK, guest room, whatever.

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What's in the bathroom? It's really small. OK.

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You know, and the kitchen's right there and then the living room and then they had the bedroom in the back.

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I got flashes of a little girl hiding in her nightgown in her in the closet.

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I was afraid. And then I got this.

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I got anger and I got not not that I was experiencing, but I kind of sensed the anger and the violence and the hatred and all that stuff.

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So I thought and it was really wild.

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She's like, I just got home from work. I'm like, oh, OK.

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So that so that place was that that was probably that was it was one of those moments where you're like, holy crap.

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You know, right. And so, I mean, I saw the silhouette through the, you know, the shaded glass and the door open.

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And they walked all the way to the toilet.

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And she was not there. And I don't know who it was.

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I was freaking she jumped in with you. Right. Right.

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I was freaked out a little bit, but I wasn't it just wasn't.

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It wasn't until I would sit in living room and watch TV.

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And I knew that there was something in the closet behind me, but I knew that you could feel those eyes on you constantly.

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Like you keep turning around. And so it was just really weird.

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But the guest bedroom when me and the girl that I was with, we were breaking up. And so we switched bedroom.

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I got the guest bedroom. And that's that's a whole different story.

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But I'll tell you what, it involved the darkness, darkness or the dark side.

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Christ growling and being thrown off the bed. Oh, wow.

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Yeah. So, yeah. Wow.

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That that is that is a story that I don't tell too often. I do want to do my speeches. I mentioned that.

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But yeah, it's it's one of those where it was a pivotal moment for me, you know, in my life.

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And then, you know, things kind of changed after that. But I was still kind of running from who I was.

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But when I was put when somebody who has gifts and they're actually kind of put in that position of a lot of paranormal activity or a lot of negative activity or something like that, you there's no way to avoid it.

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No matter how bad you're running from your gifts or running or doing whatever you're doing, you're still going to be able to sense that.

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Yep. And it's like, yeah, you can drown it as much as you want to. But if it's going to be there, it's going to be there.

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Yep. That was something I had to learn. And every time I had something happen, I was like, I want to shut it down.

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I didn't want to. You know, I was like, I don't want to be a part of this because my whole belief was, you know, growing up Catholic, growing up, you know, you know, and my first week is everything's a demon, you know.

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And once you wake up, man, that gift is right there with it right there is right. Yeah. Yeah.

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No matter how bad you want to to make it stop or whatever, because you don't want to you want to think about anything you don't want to deal with anything.

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You just want to enjoy whatever feeling that you have. Yeah. At that moment. I get it. That piece that piece. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, my my soul, my spirit still longs for that.

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It doesn't. I don't miss it. The only thing I miss about certain things is socialization drinking, you know, just being sociable and having a few drinks and hanging out. Yeah. I don't miss the whole getting totally in it to win it.

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And with anything, you know what I mean? It's just. Yeah, I have friends that that do that for me. You know. Yeah. So, you know. Yep.

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Yeah, definitely. Now I want to ask you a question. Now, do you does our energy to does our vibration and energy lower when we are in those states? Yes. Okay. Yes. We're easily able to be taken over more when we are in those states. Right. Your inhibitions are low.

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Okay. You know, your guards are low. You know, you're guarding it. You're guarding your all your protection is can be low. Not everybody. I'm just saying certain people. Everybody is different. Everybody has their own path. Everybody is an individual spiritually and physically.

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There is not one person that is the same on this planet. I don't care what anybody says. There is something that makes you unique. Yeah. And definitely. I agree. You know what I mean? Yeah. You can have a doppelganger.

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You can have somebody that looks like you, but you're still a different person. Oh, yeah. Okay. So, you know, having said that, you know, I frequency is I talk a lot about in my speeches. I talk a lot about frequency. You know, I talk about the we give off energy.

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We have a certain frequency. It changes all the time. Different ranging ranges. You go to a haunted location. You know, that also can emit its own energy or frequency. You know, the building itself, you know, or the land.

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So when people say, well, I went to this this haunted location and we got so much stuff. And then the next week, the next team went in there and got nothing. And people called. They could say, well, I don't think it's haunted that other people must be, you know, blowing smoke.

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And it's not necessarily that somebody's blowing smoke or making things up. It's the fact that frequencies change to the point where if spirits are around, they're still around, but you just can't interact with them because there's not there's not enough frequency or energy between that building or the people there.

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The building, the people that go in there the second time who didn't catch anything, their frequencies could be totally off charts different. You know what I mean? They could just be just not compatible.

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You have to realize that certain people who have that connection with the spirit world have already established that connection beforehand. You know what I mean? They were born to do that. You know what I mean?

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And there's other people that are fascinated about it. And then they experience some of this stuff, but they don't truly interact with it because of the fact that, you know, their frequency is not viable.

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You know what I mean? It's not when you meet. Yeah. When you meet somebody, both you guys, when you when you guys have met somebody and you know immediately, I want to be friends with that person because I just think that that person is really cool.

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They've got it, you know, just whatever. Okay. That is yeah, that is the frequency. That's a connector. Okay. What I call connect a connector.

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Now you can meet. Yeah, I'm sure you both have met somebody and saying, yeah, you think, okay, this person's okay. Don't know much about him or her. But, you know, okay. Yeah.

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And then you you you around them a little bit more and then it just repels you like a battery like two batteries, you know, switch the end and they just each other. It that's it happens.

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So not you know, you could say, well, I'm friends with everybody. Well, I can guarantee that you're probably not friends with everybody. No, you know, because there's certain times where it just doesn't always vibe.

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And that's why you have places and that's why you have real friends. Yeah, right. Right. Right. And it's just it is what it is. You just kind of, you know, I have people I work with that I you know, I love a lot of people that

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work with but some of them I've only vibe part time with there's some that I can only take small doses of because it's spiritually it's like it's like nails on a chalkboard.

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See, people don't understand that that part is is a spiritual part of it of life, you know, like that part of like what you just said, the frequency of it and the frequency of somebody that you can't handle at work that that feeling the reason why you can't

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handle them is actually a spiritual feeling. And I don't think a lot of people actually realize that. But Sun Dragon asks frequencies can shift up and down. And when we connect, are we matching that spirits frequency?

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So when we connect, are we matching the spirits frequency when we connect with them? Sometimes? Yes. I don't know for sure. I mean, positivity can help you raise your frequency so that you can be up.

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You know what I mean? Positive things, positive thinking, all that stuff. So there's a lot to positive thinking and positive speaking and all that stuff.

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But with the spirit, I think that the spirits and I really don't I can't answer that completely because of the fact that I don't know for sure if the spirits on the other side, if there's another medium that can chime in and say, yeah, the frequency that the spirit has that has passed

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that you're trying to investigate, whatever, they may be able to change their frequency. I'm not sure if they can. If they can, then it just they can match it. Maybe they can match it to where we are at. But it's I think it's kind of like it's different from what I'm being told.

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It's it's different. It's like trying to to fit a European plug into an American plug. Yeah. Okay. So so maybe the frequency with the land and, you know, like, say when you walk into a building and the spirit is on the other side that's standing in this old

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building, you know, vibing and have that vibing and having that frequency with the with the house or the ground, whatever. And when you come, maybe your frequency resonates with the ground or the house. And there's maybe that connection. You know what I mean? So, but direct connection.

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Yeah, I don't think that that is how that works. I just think that it's more or less that, you know, everything with the frequencies of the building, the timing, the weather, everything, there's so many different things that can go into that. That's why that people who go into

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haunted places don't always find the same thing they found the first five times they went. Yeah, there's going to be some changes. Yeah. And when I was going to people's houses, our psychic friend Sam, she told me before you go into these homes, you know, kneel on the

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ground outside and touch the ground, you know, to kind of zoom yourself in with the energy of where you're at and to not folk, not to think about things that happened in the past, not to think about how great it's going to be tonight. Just live in the now and just focus on that and just bring that energy into your investigation and everything will fall into place.

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And she was dead right, man. Right. I mean, we had the crazy night at the old Montana State Prison that we went there, touched the ground and we went into the investigation and it was just us two in there and it was the best night ever, man.

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Yeah, yeah. Having that grounding every, you know, grounding yourselves before you go into investigations is a big deal. Kneeling in front of like a building or a place like that, not only one, not only is it is an appreciative to the land itself.

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You know what I mean? Because, yeah, as we all know that that building was has only been there a short time. Whatever was there before, whatever ancestors or whoever have walked that path or could have stopped and may camp at that path or, you know, I mean, it's so it just there's so many different things with the land that that can transcend

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different things, especially buildings. You know what I mean? So, yeah, so grounding yourself and basically, you know, making that connection. That's a great point to make is that like when I said before, like when you come in and then you have that connection with the land or the building right away.

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And that may be that that spirit that is there is also tapped into that same line, you know. Yeah, yeah. And it's and it's just kind of so then you had, you know, great results from your investigation, you know. Now, have you done that all the time? You investigate?

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No, no. And I've noticed the difference. Like, like I've had crappy investigations where I got maybe one one little noise or something. And I was like, oh, man, I forgot the ground. And that should be one of the things that everybody now that you said it. And I'm glad I mean, I didn't really think of it that way until you said it.

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But I've always said that, you know, to be ground yourself first and, you know, to protect yourself first. But the way you said it and described it is kind of like the missing piece that I wish I thought of it. That that is perfect.

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I mean, that's exactly everybody should do that. You should write. Yeah, you just get so excited. You're there. You're like, oh, yes. Okay, good. Have a great day. Right. Right. You're so excited and you forget.

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It's kind of like there's there's protocol. You know what I mean? You should follow. Yeah. And and I think that that is that is a really great idea. And I if I were you, I keep looking at you thinking, okay, that's something that you should really do.

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Like, I don't know if you could put that on a post or put that in somewhere or someplace that people were going to see that and try that and do and, you know, take like five people and say, okay, try this on your next three investigations, three or five and see do five, you know, like you said, or five without and see what you get.

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See what the difference is. Exactly. Yeah. I'll get it right here so I don't forget anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Now I want to ask you, I one of the things that spirit always talks about with me is is manifestation.

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Manifestation law of attraction, stuff like that. Now does our spirit give out a vibration of frequency that will attract things into our manifest into our reality? Depending on it depends on where you're at.

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Look at it like this. When you go to buy a car, and you're looking for a car that you that you really want this and that. But what you really want is a Ferrari. Now, is that going to be practical for you at that time? Yeah, probably not.

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You know what I mean? So, so I think I think it depends on the timing. Or, yeah, they say that you know there's certain people that say that you can manifest anything you want your life.

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I like to think a little bit more. I take that with a grain of salt. I will just say, yeah, I will manifest the things that I need in my life.

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Yeah, spirit is what you need, not what you want. Yeah, right, right, right. So, because a lot of people say you can manifest anything you want. And it's like, it's not what I want. It's what I need. Yeah.

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And you don't need a Ferrari. You want one. But you know what I mean? Yeah, so yeah, it's it's about what you need at that time. And that's the one thing that when people try to manifest things. The first thought that you should have is, what do I need?

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And then you wait against what you want. Is this, does this fall into the category of want or need? You know what I mean? So once people start realizing that it's what I need, and it may not be what you, you know, want, but just need to, you know, kind of think of it and that and those terms instead of, you know, I wish I would win the lottery or I you know all this you know, yeah, don't.

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Yeah. Yeah, don't go when somebody says, Yeah, I'm going to play lottery and we're going to win the lottery. I'm like, you know, I don't really play the lottery because that's to me. My best excuse is that's too easy.

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I won't learn anything from that.

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Yeah, you know, I won't. I win the lottery. Yeah, that'd be great to have all that money to do all this stuff. But what do I really need that for? Yeah, what is that going to vent me from continuing my work to help people and to do this, instead of making money the main ingredient in why I help people.

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I don't. That's why I say that's too. You want to hear something crazy to AJ can attest to this. So, so I think it was, it was last, it was two years ago, I had been investigating for, for one year, and I did all my investigations on my own dime, I bought the plane tickets, everything, and my funds were getting low.

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And we went up to the casino here at Blackhawk. And it was my wife's dad's birthday. And I, you know, she went to the bathroom, I just sat down at this machine and I said, you know, God, I could really use some help, you know, please allow me to hit the grand jackpot and down to my last spin betting 80 cents, I won $19,000.

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There you go. It was it was crazy. Right, right. Right. So, right. So, so you can look at that as in, and if not take it too serious, but be appreciative of what happened.

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You know what I mean? Yeah, and I totally appreciated. Right, right, right. Yeah, it's, and that is a great story. And I've been to the Blackhawk and because Central City is one of my favorite places to visit.

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Yeah, yeah, I, I remember when the casino was not there, because I lived there, I lived in, in Aurora, back from 95 to 97. Okay. All right. So we used to visit up to Central City all the time.

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Yeah, I love that place. And that's got some great spirits there. Yeah. So, now, what was one of your most memorable investigations that you've done or say readings that you've done.

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Oh my gosh.

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You know, the one I remember,

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probably the one I remember I was helping a lady.

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She wanted to, she was trying to.

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She was trying to find out if there were loved ones that were still communicating with her, and I actually, I gave her a reading, and she actually paid for the reading.

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But it was basically one of the things that I had gotten messages from these two grandparents, which would have been her great grandparents came through to me when I was driving to meet her at this place where I was doing the reading.

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And I'm like, okay, I got you in my head. I know you're there, you know, so when I went there, I, I was telling her a little bit about this and they came through and the one thing that they said was to look for the old trunk and the attic.

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And I was telling her that telling her that and I said there's some, she's like I've never met these people I don't know who they are I was kind of try to describe them to my best recollect and she said, I said, there's pictures of them in this old trunk.

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And she said okay so she, you know, later on she told me she called her dad and said you know are there pictures of great grandparents and little trunk and an attic and they she said, you said yeah, he said there's old pictures in this trunk.

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And I was like, oh, jeez. I was like okay, you know.

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And so, I mean, that was you know probably one of one of the moments, but I really, you know, from what I can remember.

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I don't know it's really weird because there's sometimes that I do readings like the kid with the elephant. That was really cool. Yeah.

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I did I did a walk, the tour, the ghost tour for Halloween last year like I did this year with my friend Rita who's a really good tour guide.

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And she was telling last year she was telling a story about one of the ladies of the lake and you know her husband passing away and all this other stuff and she was telling a story but she was also had a friend there that was a history.

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She was one of the historians of the town there. So she was trying to clean it up and you know make it and I'm like, okay. So, when we were when she was done with the story she was walking away then this this lady came through mayor I think her name was Mary came through

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she said she did a really good job but she doesn't need to add or take anything away from the original story. Yeah. And so I went walking with her and I said, Well, here's what I've been told.

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And she looked at me she says what do you mean I said, because she was a dick for medium she didn't. Yeah, she was, you know, so I told her exactly what I just told you.

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And she stopped, and she freaked out. And she was like, nobody knows that that that is on my butt was on my brain, nobody.

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And I'm like, she likes that you do it that way, but keep it the way you do it, you do a good job at it, you don't need to add or take anything away don't embellish don't do anything, just make it your own.

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And she was just, and still when I talked to her last, last week when we went to do the walk for Halloween she's still, she mentioned that on the walk.

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You know she was like I was a skeptic, and I'm still kind of a skeptic but this guy's the real deal.

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Because I was the guest guest walk with them, you know, so yeah, yeah, it was cool. So I mean there, there's just, there's quite a few different moments that I recommend. Yeah, you know, and it's just

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then my goal for to do all this stuff and it's not so much that I focus on my mediumship because I'm just a normal guy, you know, I mean, just like me and you and you know Jonathan I just, I just happened to, you know, interact with the dead a little bit more than normal.

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You know, what, what's your, what's your future plans. What do you got going on in the future that you can tell her, I am working on.

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I'm trying, I'm, I'm, I'm desperately trying to get some funding for. I want to be able to create a documentary for

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those town investigations, like out west, I want to be able to do this, investigate, I want to be able to do interviews with my show.

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You know I want to be able to have that kind of platform but I also want to be able to document the real history of the old west, you know, I mean I really, I want to be able to go into the old buildings like in Virginia City, Nevada, you know, I want to be able to go

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into Goldfield Hotel, I want to be able to go up to the many spirits that are there and say okay, I need to sit down with you and interview you, you know, basically like the WashU and yeah, all of those.

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Yeah, all of that, you know what I mean. The Birdcage in Tombstone, Arizona. Oh my god, yeah, you know, Big Nose Cades place, you know, all that stuff. I mean, it just, it fascinates me, because there were there have been times

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where I used to work in a warehouse, and I would get these, I would get these images.

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Every time I would stand in this one in this warehouse I would get these images of walking through saloon doors, and I couldn't figure out why. And then I would think about San Francisco.

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Yeah, every day, no matter where it was if as long as I was in that spot, picking orders.

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That's the thoughts that would come to my mind.

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Wow. And I don't know why I don't know the whole connection with that but I did talk to another friend of mine who's a medium actually.

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One of my shoes my mentor actually.

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And she.

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She said, I think that you were some type of lawman in the old west. I was about to say past life.

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And I love horses. I've never ridden on a horse, but I love horses and I, I have experienced connection with a horse or two horses actually when me and my wife went to go look at some horse riding trails that they had this just, it was just beautiful

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area was the kettle Maureen and they had these horses where they would take them out to, you know, ride and this and that. I walked up to these two horses and that was still crazy to me as today as it was then I walked up to these horses, and the first thing

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I heard from one of the horses was, what are you doing here.

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The other one was dumber than a box of rocks.

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I'm not kidding. I mean I was just, I mean, not not that when they were she was dumb but she was just oblivious to anything. Just to be outside she was like oh my god you know I could like a wound up dog.

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Exactly. Exactly.

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Now so it's something that you could hear also with like other animals.

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Yeah, yes and no, I kind of don't really partake too much in that it just happened that way. By chance when I, when I was out. I would say that definitely that might be a past life.

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Yeah, because I really I really don't yeah, but I really don't want to connect with my cats because they're nuts.

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Yeah, I don't believe me I wouldn't want to connect with my cat. Yeah, my cat, my cat bitches at me enough I don't want to physically hear him in my brain screaming for something.

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Oh my gosh, you gotta tell her.

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That TikTok video where the horses are.

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That is perfect.

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The Ted, the Ted, you put the stuffing in the wrong place.

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Yeah, so that's that's my goal. That is my goal to be able to have the funding to be able to, you know, because the reason why I'm asking, I've been asking for this for a little bit but I really put a little bit more of emphasis on the old west and you know why I do this

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is because of the fact that I work in a restaurant, or actually, private country club. This private country club, and that's a whole different story. I got so many stories about that.

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This place is haunted is, is, is, as, as, as get out. Yeah.

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So, we are on getting going on door off season. And so, I kind of would like to be able to pursue my paranormal side of it, where I could travel and do my documentary and experience all this stuff while I have the time to do that.

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I'm doing a nine to five job working in like a warehouse or an office or something where you have to ask for time, I have time. Now I can do it, I like to cook, I'm a grill chef, I, I love what I do.

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And I've been doing that since I was 19, but it was just, you know, having having the the where through all to be able to, you know, make one of your projects or dreams come become reality is, you know, yeah, that's something that I would like to manifest,

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you know what I mean? I mean, I would seriously because that's something that do I need to, I think I need to do it for my own personal beliefs, you know what I mean, because the fact that there's a reason why I have dreams of the Old West, there's reasons why I just recently had a dream of somebody handing me an old gun that was kind of like an old West gun.

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Oh, like revolver style. Yeah. Yeah, the old. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I was like, Why am I thinking of that? You know what I mean? So there's been times where I've had, you know, dreams of being in the Old West.

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And I think I was standing next to if you know who Michelle LeBaron is sounds like, okay, she's a very good. She's from she lives in Nevada. Okay, she's she said anytime you want to come to Virginia City, I'll give you a private tour, you know, I'll take you out.

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And so and so this lady, Michelle LeBaron is I've had her on my other show and she's just great to talk to you. Well, there was one time where I had a dream where we I was standing next to her looking down into a dirt street of a saloon, like like a top floor of a hotel.

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And I remember all the, the walls and the, the beds, everything. You definitely had a past life. Yeah, I turned around and there was this guy that had, you know, hat kind of like a farmer, like, but a rancher type guy, you know, beat up he's like, and he looks at me and he says, Can you help me?

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And that was like, and then I kind of woke up, but it's moments like that when I have dreams like that, that they aren't necessarily that you need to do something right now with. Yeah, but those streams happen and then in when the time is right.

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Sometimes those things will happen where it's not necessarily that would be days that would be deja vu, probably times 10. You know what I mean, but it would be something where I had a dream about this. I've had dreams like that before, where I was somebody else.

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And I was, there was one time when I was younger and I was in the backseat of a station wagon. And I remember the house I remember the house the cars across the street. And I was a screaming kid in the backseat of a station wagon and I was getting yelled at and this

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and that and I was like, What the heck.

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About a year or two later I was taking my daughter who was, you know, like, five or six at the time to IMAX theater in Nebraska.

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And I came down this street at the stop sign to my left, I saw the station wagon. I saw the Camaro that was across the street. I saw the house, and I freaked and I'm like,

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I mean, so, and that wasn't deja vu. That was just, hey, I was here, but I was somebody else.

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You're projecting yourself.

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Yeah, I was. Yeah, I, there's been a couple times, there's been a couple times where I've been some someone else.

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And there was once I was, I was actually shot. That was weird.

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I've done I've had these dreams so I know exactly what you're talking about.

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I was running out of a back of a old farmhouse.

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And there were, I called him G man at the time, you know, around the fence line and this farm.

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And I come out in my white, you know, white beater shirt, and, you know, I'm running and I'm taking my snub nose and I'm firing at him.

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And they just drilled me. And all I remember was that there was no pain it was pressure.

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And then when I fell down, everything went black and I woke up.

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Yeah, my friends, my, my, my, my friend, Josh sent me a picture of he was working with another paranormal team and they were, and he was trying to find a place that was, you know, supposedly haunted or something like that.

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And he says, Hey, he's like, I, this guy's, you know, just thinking about buying this property in Illinois. He's like, you know, what do you think? And then he sent me the picture and it was the same house.

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No, the same house same back porch same fence line same everything.

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I was like, you gotta be kidding.

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Yeah, I've been I've been dead and I've been dead in the water before.

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I've been dead in the water where I drowned where I was a female and I was looking up underneath the water to the detective that was standing at the end of the pool.

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Wow, that was that was weird.

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This brings a whole nother conversation to the table but I know that we're coming to the end and we have to let you go so you can go make some dinner but yeah, I want to have you back on because you know there's a lot that I want to talk about with past lives and stuff

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because I do believe in past lives and I believe that I had one and I know that you definitely had multiple ones.

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Why are you right.

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I love wider.

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I have actually have a wild Bill Hickok t shirt.

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Oh, that is cool.

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Well, there you go but Jay Thank you so much for coming on man I truly appreciate you on please go though where they could check out your podcast even though we have a stream and where they can check you out. Yeah, you can check me out on Instagram studio six productions you can check me out on Facebook studio six productions or my personal page Jay Hill, or my medium page Jay Hill.

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I'm a medium paranormal investigator. And I'm on with studio six paranormal or studio six production. Well, oh my gosh I'm everywhere.

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Twitter studio six productions as well.

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Yeah.

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I'm everywhere man. I am I am everywhere and it's trying to keep it them all in line is, is, I'm also on like it is done.

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And now I'm on like it and I'm on Linktree as well. Awesome. That's studio six link tree.

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Yeah, so,

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that's probably about it. But yeah.

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I'm on YouTube, you can find me on YouTube at studios, as well. I also have a Terry files with Kelly Shaffer. Kelly Shaffer is a really good host, and she's got her own team going to paranormal research, and they just had a really good investigation so I'm going to probably blast

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her. Our show is tomorrow, Monday, it's heading sitting around the headstones with Kelly Shaffer on summary files.

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That is going to be a good, a good show too. So yeah, I'm, I'm busy everywhere man.

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Sounds like.

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So,

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I do, I do want to say thank you. Thank you to Para Post, and, you know, for having the awesomeness that the Para Post network has, because the fact that I don't mention that enough on my own shows.

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So, I want to say thank you to Brian Laverde. So, you know, kudos to him.

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And kudos to you AJ because, you know, you rock.

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Thank you, Jonathan. You know, thanks for coming.

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Well, hey, go have a good dinner, I will talk to you definitely soon on the phone, but we'll get you scheduled back on man because there's so much more we oh yeah I got I got more stories for you.

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Well, hey, we'll talk to you soon.

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All right, man. All right.

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You too. Thanks brothers.

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Oh, I clicked at the same time as you.

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Oh, he's back.

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Anyway, I want to say was that was an absolutely awesome show I didn't realize I was muted at the end.

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So I'm glad that you heard what I was saying. But I wanted to say man that it's so wild that we started talking about past lives at the end because you know what Sam told me about mine about I was a fisherman on a boat and I died, you know, when a boat

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crashed or whatever it was, and I was younger I was, I was my grandfather's boat I loved going on and then we went through a terrible storm one time we almost got hit by a ferry. And it was like scariest thing ever to be on the ocean during that so to have Jay say about

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his past life was very interesting. So I can't wait to have one again but what'd you think man.

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Yeah, he had some great stories you know and I can feel like how genuine he is with, with everything that he does you know he does it from the heart and he's doing it for the right reasons just like you and me and, you know, and that's what you know being an

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investigator spiritualist is about you know you got to believe in yourself and just, you know, take criticism, you know, just, but you got to believe in you in order for all this great stuff to happen. That's what I've learned.

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Well, I meant to that. Well guys, make sure to check out talking with the source on all podcasts listening services on YouTube and all social medias now. Thank you so much Nancy and everyone else for tuning in we truly appreciate.

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Always feel free to ask questions in the comments will put them up on the screen and we will get them asked for you. But, hey, check us out. We appreciate you Carrie Thank you. And check us out on all podcasts listening services so talk to you guys soon.

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My name is AJ Capasso host of talking with the source.

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I'm Jonathan Keyworth the JK 47 paranormal this Tuesday, targeting with the JK I do live spirit box sessions it's going to be a good one.

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So that's at noon mountain time.

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Next time we are talking with the source. Good night.