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What's going on everybody my name is AJ Capasso
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I am host of Talking with the Source and you just made me laugh hysterically in my head because you did that little freak out face and I almost stopped what I was going to say because I didn't know what you were about to do
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but anyway besides that point please introduce yourself now that you screwed me all up
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No man welcome to Talking with the Source I'm the JK 47 paranormal Jonathan Keyworth and I just try to mess him up every time before we start and do whatever I can
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I'm going to take you off the screen I swear to God next time because I can't, I can't do it
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Hey my hand grew up man I'm in your possession right? No but anyway I wanted to bring on an amazing guest today unfortunately we couldn't get both of them on but we have some amazing evidence we're going to show
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and we're going to talk about some amazing things so I want to bring forth Melissa from Rootless Destinations
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Hey guys thanks so much for having me
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Yeah absolutely thank you for coming on
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How have you been?
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Well thank you I'm sorry honey couldn't be here but she's making some money today
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That's alright you got to make the money you know
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First thing I wanted to ask you was since the last time we talked I know you guys have been on some investigations can you tell me maybe what is one of your most memorable since the last time we talked?
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Well I will tell you this and it was unexpected we went and did an investigation at a one story nursing home and it had been closed for years and a friend of ours told us about it so we went to go check it out
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We cleared the building during the day and then we went back at night and unexpectedly the thing was pretty damn haunted she and I yeah we got sick I caught an apparition Heidi was tough
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Oh wow
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Yeah it was pretty interesting so they've given us another location and I think it's another nursing home and that's where we are going to go next weekend
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You know it always shocks me that you know these nursing homes I hear so many stories about nursing homes and it makes a lot of sense I mean it truly does I mean there are a lot of families that do just leave their loved ones in there and that's where they know and that's probably where they come back to visit or they are stuck
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Yeah it's really sad
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It's so sad to think of you know like my grandparents were stuck somewhere like I would be the first one that'd be like if like a child was stuck somewhere wouldn't you want to help it you know it's like so sad
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I totally understand why but I hear so many stories lately about nursing homes so it's amazing that you are getting into those places up here I don't know any that we have so I gotta look into it though because they are most active and if I can go in there and help them maybe in some way some form crossover like we have in the past me and John I mean I'd love to do such a thing to help them you know but anyway
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Well think about it dude some of the best activity that you've got is at cemeteries and they've been there for years and years and years I mean the living versus death aspect of the equation I don't know what it is but I'm just saying you know when you go to the cemeteries you get just as much you know as somebody passing you know
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Yeah and we do cemeteries too
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Yeah yeah please explain on your your experience because what I was going to say was my experience what they've told me was they go there to visit like that's where they gather like this is what I was told through a spirit box at that the cemetery that I live next to the 1700s grave and they told me that this is where they meet up as a family technically or like
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Yeah
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Yeah, it was really wild and we did it on a live me and me and john we call a while a couple wild things that night, but I'm telling your experience. I'm a terrorist you guys take some amazing photos at these cemeteries. Please talk a little bit about it.
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We don't investigate very many. Just because we kind of feel like we might be disturbing them. Yes. Yes. So, the only time that you'll see us doing it is if we've walked the cemetery and we just have like, dude, we got to come investigate here because you get, you know, weird vibes or maybe you hear something or so we'll go back and investigate, there is one cemetery that we, we've been back to several times.
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It's not. We don't always catch a lot of evidence there, but we do get some communication and we've caught some light anomalies.
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So I mean it just really depends on the cemetery and the person that's going in there in my opinion.
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Yeah, no, I totally agree. I totally agree. I mean, I always go in with respect always no matter where I go. So, um, yeah, you always have the way I always thought was your intention.
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Like what's your intention in this place, you know, even if it's like a bar, if your intentions to go to drink and get messed up, you know, that can lead to other things and, you know, but your intentions are to just go have a good time.
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Then that leads to other things, you know, it's all in your intention.
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I agree. Yeah, I totally agree too, you know, and it's all about their respect and you don't see a lot of people sometimes doing it. You see people doing the provoking thinking that that's what helped.
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No, one thing that I've caught on the spirit box at a cemetery was that there's these guardians and these guardians like really are very serious and sometimes they're in the form of what an Egyptian what we would look like Egyptian dogs would look like is what I've gotten through the spirit box before, which I thought was pretty wild to think about dogs guarding a cemetery because it would make sense in our day and age.
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What would you put to guard something, you know, you put something ferocious like a dog or, you know, at least I would, you know, I put German shepherds or like some pit bulls or something.
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So like a hell hound.
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You know, is the dog is, you know, of human spirit or is it an elemental? Is it a fae? I mean, a lot of people believe in these kind of things.
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So that that's kind of interesting. So tell me, do you guys, do you guys believe in like the elemental side as well? Because it's something that I always want to talk to paranormal investigators about.
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I have not that I have a hard time with it, but I do believe that there is nature type spirit. But what do you guys believe? What is your what is your belief on it?
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I don't think Heidi believes as much as I do, but I do believe in the elementals. I do believe that there are other spirits, other creatures, other entities here with us.
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I don't believe it's just of human spirit. There are protectors, like you say, and in my opinion, I think that that's what they are.
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Yeah, no, absolutely. I believe so, too. You know, we hear a lot of things like, you know, all these things from fairies to all different elements from water to fire type elementals.
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And I totally agree with all that. I mean, think about how many dimensions much must be sitting on top of us on top of each other that are crossing over, you know, and each time.
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So it's so wild to think about all these different entities, what they can look like. One thing I got through the spirit box one time was my dad came through and he spoke about angels.
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And he said that I asked him what they look like. And he said they can look like anything they want. Some are scary. Some are, you know, like intimidating.
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And to my father, for him to stay intimidating, that's pretty intense for me because my father was not the type of person to be intimidated by somebody.
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And, you know, you know, my back story, which one day I'll talk to you about it. You'll be like, oh, my gosh, now I understand.
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But it's wild to hear him say that. And it's so crazy when we talk about elementals and stuff, how many different entities could be around us.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just it wasn't intentionally. I wasn't going to put it out on my channel.
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But a girlfriend of mine is big time into Faye and elementals and she's Wicca as well.
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So she practices on the white side. So she's just a huge believer in it as well as deities.
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She has her protector. So I went with her to a cemetery because she had an experience there.
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And I was like, what's been a while since we got together? Let's all come hang out and we'll go check it out together.
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The communication we got through the spirit box was very little human spirit.
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But in my opinion, a lot of Faye and whatever may have been with her, her protector as well.
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And we caught a lot of cool communication when we went back into the wooded area as well.
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And they are there to protect that wooded area. What was it? Sorry, John.
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I'm sorry. I don't find this out real quick before you ask your question.
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What made you feel that it was something different?
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Like, what was the communication you got that made you feel it was something?
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We got different languages. We got and then we found out later on that that was probably German.
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Just I have to go back and look at the footage, but we caught something that made us think it was German.
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We caught weird things like one voice said, yes, I'm a Faye.
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The other one said, I want to wave a wand, help us with the ritual, just all kinds of weird stuff like that.
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And I don't know if that would have happened if I didn't have her with me.
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You know what I'm saying? She was the equipment you were using.
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What was the equipment you were using?
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So I just brought a little GoPro and this is really just for me.
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And then I brought the SB seven, but I didn't bring my speaker.
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So you couldn't hear it very well. Yeah. Yeah.
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So she said, well, let me use the app on my phone. I said, well, she was going live.
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And I said, you're going live. Let me go get my phone. And I used those those box.
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I like the necrophonics personally. I don't use them.
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I don't use them. The only reason why I downloaded that one was just to check it out.
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Yeah. Like in the moment type of stuff like, OK, like that.
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OK. Yeah. I've done that.
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Yeah, I've done too. You know, a lot of things that I try to do when I look at apps, too,
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I try to look at the person one making it one if it is made for the IPC purpose,
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which there's very few on there that actually are.
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It's a lot of games and a lot of jokes on there.
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That's why, you know, one of the things that I've looked into is the code inside of the necrophonic.
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And a lot of people who have looked at the code go, oh, well, it has a repeating aspect on it.
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And it has a repeating aspect because the audio clips of phonemes that were put in
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can't be played for eight hours long.
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They're clips and they have to be repeated over.
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And, you know, people don't understand that and they don't realize that it's just phonemes.
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So when you're actually getting these words coming out,
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something is actually manipulating either the frequency of your device or just the device audio clips itself.
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Please, John, go ahead and say that, you know, because I know you're going to know, man.
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No, I'll vouch personally did Arizona case, Michigan case, the case in Tennessee.
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I farted in. You farted.
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And I was like, oh, my God, that goes to that.
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Right. And that's what made this so interesting is because Anne was real sick and she was in the hospital.
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She had to have surgery and it was a life or death kind of thing.
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And so some of the things coming through the spirit box were like she was sick and she still had her hospital band on.
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Oh, and I was like, and they're talking about you.
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You were sick. And they're like, she's better now.
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And I was like, holy shit. Yeah. I mean, that whole I don't think that it's not something that I would use all the time because I just was never a believer.
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I don't know. But the whole I was never asked him.
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I'm telling you, that thing was on the spot with everything that was going on.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, I was I never believed in it until he got me to try that one.
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And I'll never find it's not bad.
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Another really want a really good one that is basically like having one of those portal devices in your pocket for your phone that has this one has been tested by an Institute of Consciousness and Ben ran experiments on.
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It's by Hope Spirit. Sorry. It's by Hope Paranormal.
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And it's by Josh Lewis of Hope Paranormal. He made this app.
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And basically you release the audio. It has a delay reverse to it. And it's basically all just human speech that are basically reverse gibberish. That's all mixed up.
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So you have no false positives that can come through. So every time you open the gate, a different set of audio clip will come in. That's complete gibberish. It's never the same.
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And you'll open the gate and you'll get complete gibberish. It's hard to get communication through it because it is an ITC device. It's not a game. It actually is a real device. And when you do get it through, like I just got some answers through it.
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And I and I have a hard time using it. To be honest, I have I like my necrophonic. If I'm going to use an app, I'll use that.
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Because it's not as clear when it comes through.
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It's not that. The reason being is that you have to open the gate to allow. Thank you. Appreciate you.
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You have to open the gate to allow the audio to come out. Whereas necrophonic, the audio is constantly coming out. So spirit came.
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You know, they're they're whatever, however they connect through thought blocks or, you know, like energy wise, whatever they're doing to our device, it's easier for them on the necrophonic.
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Whereas on this one, for some people, it's really easy. Like my buddy, Steve, who is also a little son here, he gets amazing communication with it all the time.
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So does Josh Lewis. He gets crazy stuff. I think it's a matter of what you and spirit get comfortable with when you guys are using it together, like the intention and stuff, you know, like the connection between the two people using the device.
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You know, right. Your location, have like everything. So every time you tell me the name of the app. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I already said it's the HSB one. It's called.
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I'm not part of that one. OK, yeah, it's called the HSB dash one. The hope spirit box dash one.
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So just either type in the hope spirit box or just type in the dash one. It's free. Doesn't cost any money. Right. Well, that's the one that I like free.
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No, he has a desktop version that you could do focus sessions with that you could put the person's picture up on the screen.
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It records. It does all this amazing stuff that you can pay money to get. But the free version is exactly the same. There's no difference.
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So he put it out for everyone for free because he feels that he wants to help the world connect with spirit.
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You know, so he's not somebody who wants to make money off of this, which I think is phenomenal. Yeah, exactly.
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I mean, I think the add ons are cool. If somebody wants to do something that's more, you know, intense or whatever, then that's cool.
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But I'm not paying for that. I don't blame you. And I don't blame a lot of people because you shouldn't because a lot of these that are out there, you don't do your research.
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You really can get, you know, like ripped off badly. Yeah. You know, I mean, very badly. Yeah.
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That's why the S.P. Gavin is such a way to go. You know what I mean? Because it's it's been my opinion.
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It's not, you know, it's, you know, it's undeniable to me when I'm getting certain things like for you guys, when you guys get communication, what's some of the most amazing things you've ever heard?
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Oh, well, gosh, you'd have to make me think about that. I don't write all that stuff down.
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I don't know, really. I mean, we get our names when we did the made level ghost at the Clayborne House.
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She and I did a double S.S. method and I was getting more communication than she was, but they also called my name.
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Would you both be asking questions at the same time or had the owners of the house?
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We gave them a recorder and were like, whenever, just any time before we go on, ask them questions and just give us back the recorder later.
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So we ran the recorder. Yeah.
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And most of the stuff that she was asking didn't get answered. But then after Heidi wasn't getting any communication, so she's like, I'm not getting anything.
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So she started asking questions. And that's when we started getting the communication. And it was it was straight on.
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So it's towards me. Yeah. So so I just had an idea. What if two people did the S.S. method, you know, with the headphones on in the blindfolds and they were sitting across from each other.
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But two people would tap them.
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We're romantically to respond to see what would happen is a conversation. You mean like there with you and they would touch you. I don't know. I don't understand.
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Yeah. OK. Like I'm sitting here. I got my S.S. method on AJ sitting there with his on.
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But there were two other investigators with you on on different sides. And when they felt they had to touch you, that's when you would respond, you know, whatever after and to see like if you caught communication that way.
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And what would they ask, though? Who knows? They could.
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They could. When they tap them, maybe when they tap them, ask the question. And then, you know, when the other one tapped to see if the response reponded with.
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Well, I kind of get what he's saying. I get what he's saying. Yeah, I get it.
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I'm like, that's kind of startles you. Yeah, exactly.
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It does. I was just about to say that. So I know because you're so focused on that. You have to run an experiment on that because that's actually a good idea to try.
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And you're because you have more of an idea of what you're talking about than we do. So I would try that, man. Definitely.
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One hundred percent. You know, a whole point of experimenting is to raise this field. Right. Yeah, exactly.
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Well, Melissa, I want to talk to you real quick about this clip we're going to show. It's a bunch of evidence that you guys have put together. Please talk a little bit about it. Hey, Misty, how are you?
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Please talk a little bit about this clip.
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Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah.
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I want you to talk about it first to talk a little bit about it.
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I don't even know what you're showing. You sent it to me.
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I thought you knew that. OK, that was from me.
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That's way better than the blog. OK, all of those clips are from the Claiborne house.
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OK, so that's what I was just about to ask you. They're from the Claiborne house. OK, perfect. So yeah, all of them.
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And then we'll talk about it. I'm sorry. I did it backwards.
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AJ, it's OK, man. Yeah, I'm like, no judgment, no judgment.
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Hold on. There we go. Let me put it up on here.
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OK, so that's a still camera that's sitting in the room. I don't know.
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Here, hold on. I'm starting from the beginning. I'm going to play it and then we'll talk about it.
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And it's just most of quite a bit of evidence we got. I just wanted to share with you all.
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So you all would know what we got when the cameras were off, when the libel is gone.
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Awesome. I am Melissa and I'm Heidi and we are Bruteless Destinations.
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Thank you for joining us. We are in Jefferson, Texas. It is one of the most haunted towns in Texas.
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Anywhere you go, they run across the spirit.
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Tonight, we are so, so happy to have you at the Claiborne house.
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You've been invited by the host and hostess to have our paranormal investigation here.
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Get that point.
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There we go.
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Melissa, they're saying ready. I don't know if we started yet.
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Hi there.
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Hello.
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I feel like it wants to push me this way.
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Almost pulled into my right.
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Yeah, I can get that because me is more on my right side.
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It is definitely pulling me this way.
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My idea was actually hurting me.
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Yes, it's hurting.
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It's very painful.
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Yeah.
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And it's not my normal pain.
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No, this is hurting.
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Yes.
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I feel like it's hurting.
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You feel the bed shake. Yep.
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What was that?
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I saw that.
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That flash.
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Yeah.
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I was like, Oh, that was pretty cool for everyone watching.
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Just go back.
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Listen when headphones.
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Yeah.
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Headphones for sure.
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To listen to some of the EVPs and stuff.
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There was one that I heard the stop.
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It was really cool because I heard them.
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That was awesome.
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I got it going through all five of my speakers.
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I heard it clear.
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Yeah.
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It was amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That location is super cool.
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I think that's one of our favorite places to go.
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Now, again, I know you told us last time you were here before on global ghost hunt.
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Well, before it was going to air a little bit about the Claiborne house for everyone that's new watching.
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Can you just do a real quick summary of what the history of the Claiborne house is so people get a little understanding of why it's haunted?
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Okay, sure.
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Well, I think the hauntings really has to do with the original family.
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Mr. Claiborne was one of the first to settle in Jefferson, Texas.
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He was a ship captain.
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He imported, exported goods.
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It's right on a river.
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The whole place is surrounded by water.
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So he was a riverboat captain.
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His wife died at a young age, and then he also died.
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He wasn't very old when he died.
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So his daughter, Lucy, was married by a friend of her father's so that he could take care of her.
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So that house is the house that he bought Lucy hit her husband.
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They did have several children, and two of them did pass away in the house, and one of them did drown in the bathtub.
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We're not sure about how many deaths happened in the house.
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We're thinking anywhere between six and ten from the history that we found.
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I think really just the connection with the home itself and the history that this whole town has, that's probably why they're still there.
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And it makes sense.
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I mean, it totally makes sense.
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There's so much trauma in there, you know, so much trauma in that time.
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Like, that's a lot to lose three children.
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I can't imagine losing one child.
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I mean, losing three, though, like, oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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Appreciate you.
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I want to ask you.
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I want to ask you, with these spirits, when they when they're speaking through these devices that we have, whether it be a PSP seven or the REM pod or just a regular K2 or EMF, whatever you want to do.
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Do you think how do you think they're connecting with these devices like I know through energy, obviously, but what do you what's your opinion on this?
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How do you think they're actually connecting?
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To be honest with you, I think that every spirit is different.
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I think that every spirit has their own gift that they were given on how they communicate.
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Some may be able to touch you, but not be able to speak.
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Some may be able to touch the devices.
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Others may just be able to be near them.
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To be honest with you, I don't have the answer.
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No, yeah, I think that every spirit is different.
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No, I really like that.
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And you know, everything that we can talk about is really theory because we all won't know until it's our time, obviously.
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But true.
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I'm going to haunt some bitches.
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Right.
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I got some people that are going to be running up some stairs in a dark room at nighttime.
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All right.
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So I'm coming back for sure.
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But yeah, no, no, you're right.
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You're like flickers in the background.
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Watch this.
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I hope my gift is to touch someone because I'd rather touch you than talk to you because that'll freak you out.
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You know what I mean?
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Just flick them in the ear.
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Wet Willy. Wet Willy.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Once an hour.
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Once an hour.
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But anyway, besides that, Ashley, how are you?
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Thank you for joining us.
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I wanted to say, you know, it's great that we could talk about these theories, though, because, you know, sharing this on this show with multiple different paranormal investigators, you know, bringing all these theories together, like maybe we can get some answers.
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You know what I mean?
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And hopefully that we can with all the work that we're putting in.
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I don't think we'll ever get the full main picture of everything, obviously, but I do feel that we can get something of the sort.
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You know, what is your opinion?
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I agree.
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The more that we speak to one another and share some different things that we've experienced or tried, there's going to be all kinds of different things coming out in the near future.
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I believe that will help us to communicate in different ways.
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Yeah.
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So, so, like, before I start, I start my sessions and stuff like I always ask spirit to work as a collaborative and and I wish we could do the same, you know.
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Right. I wish we could all just take the shields down and be like, we're working towards the same goal, you know.
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And because there there is a whole another universe out there or whatever you want to call it, you know, in that quantum realm that responds to us and is able to talk to us.
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So now I wanted to ask you this year's Global Ghost Hunt.
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You guys are being a part of now I want to let you know that you guys were the first team ever to join Global Ghost Hunt.
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It's down in the history books.
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Ever.
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Well, from everyone at Global Ghost Hunt that's not here right now, including Brian, including everyone, I want to personally say as one of the admin team members, I want to thank you guys because you guys paved the way to join.
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So thank you. But please talk about this, you know, coming event in just a couple of weeks. Where are you going? History. Please tell us what's up.
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Okay, so we're going to Presidio Labahia.
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And that is a originally it was a Catholic mission.
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So you'll have so you'll have clergy there. You'll have nuns there.
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What happened during that time is that mission was on Mexican territory.
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So, you know, Mexico and Texas fought for Texas to be independent from them.
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So during this time when these battles are going on, you've got I don't know if you're real familiar with Texas history, but you've got the Alamo and you've got San Jacinto, you've got Goliad, you've got all of these different battles that were going on to fight for Texas to be independent.
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So on this site at this mission is where Texans Texan what they call them Texans Texan men were actually captured by the Mexican army and they were put in that what they would then call a fort.
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They were captured.
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So on that land, it gets to me I'm sorry on that land. They killed every one of those guys while their captain watched.
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Oh, my God. So there's, there's also 13 bodies buried on property with only I think two, two or three marks.
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Wow. And, and the mass burial of these men is right around the corner.
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Wow, that is so crazy. I mean, no, I don't know a lot of text and history I do doing a lot of ancient history stuff I don't do a lot of us history personally unless I'm, you know, obviously out of sight and I'm going to invest right or your own state, you know,
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your own country. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I know a little bit but I don't know what you just told me I never heard that story before so I never heard that fact before about history.
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That is a very crazy and sad thing but that active locations gotta be. I mean that location is got to be active I mean, with the trauma that that that they suffered, I mean I'm sure that some of them are still there especially like you said, some of them
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are not even marked their graves.
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Oh, gosh.
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Basically, and placed in a mass grave, that's just.
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Let me tell y'all. Heidi and I have been to this town on several occasions, we have been to this location, probably a handful of times.
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This will be our second time to actually stay the night there.
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The first time we ever went to the town to check out the history and to learn a little more about the battles and everything. We came up on the mass grave we didn't even know what it was.
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And I started crying as soon as we got there she's like what the hell is right. I said, I don't know.
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I'm sad right now, she got out and read the historical marker she's like, This is why you're sad.
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It was insane. So from that day forward I was like, I'm connected here somehow.
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You're an imp.
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It was.
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Every time we go there I get so emotional. I have a theory right, what if right, you're feeling an energy like how you felt the energy but Heidi didn't feel that energy where you started crying and stuff.
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I mean, I'm just being an empath but what if, just a theory, what if in a past life, you might have been one of those men, or one of the females of that was a wife and a husband.
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Who knows why you're crying you know what I mean like that energy why it affected you and it didn't affect Heidi. I always wondered more, you know like because you said I feel connected to this place.
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I do.
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I feel all the time I'm like, let's go to goliath let's go. Yeah, I mean, past life, maybe someone in my family was there in that battle, I don't know. Yeah.
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Yeah, and you did you do sessions there you did sessions there. We've done a couple of sessions at the mass burial we've gotten no communication there, which I'm happy about because it makes me feel like maybe they're at peace and they're not stuck there.
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Yeah, they move. Yeah, but at the mission the Ford, we've gotten a lot of communication there.
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Who knows they could still be fighting that war. Yeah, and I think they, maybe they are because they've heard gunshots and cannons, and that's not going on right now. Yeah, right.
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Yeah, absolutely right. So this is going to be an amazing global ghosts and event if you guys want to check out their last global ghosts and event which just happened in May, go over to global ghosts on on YouTube go to the live tab, you're going to see all the videos that from all the
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investigators but look up Brutalist destination at the clayborn, you'll see more of the evidence that we showed. But this year's global ghosts and I mean same year but this event that we're having because we have to a year.
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I know for the Halloween.
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And you are going to an amazing location that is amazing for paranormal research.
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But it's very sad as a person to go there and I feel for you because I know it chokes you up as I just saw and I'm very sorry that you know it does that to you but hopefully that connection will help you help them.
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Yeah, it may. And just anyone out there who's watching if you're not, if you don't know what global ghost is again do what he says go to global ghost time, anywhere.com, Facebook, Instagram, para post network, and just watch all these awesome teams and these
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locations are amazing.
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Some of these locations are just outstanding. Yeah, and for just for people to know if a team can't say go live what we do is we have them record for two hours completely uncut they're not allowed to edit they're not allowed to do any of that sorts.
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And we review everything before it goes up to make sure that they didn't do any of that.
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And then the uncut footage because it wouldn't be fair to everyone else for them to be able to review and you guys aren't so that's why I do that but check out these teams because it all technically is live raw uncut footage, and it's not you know like,
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Oh, an EVP comes through you're going to capture it, you know, just by hearing it you're going to hear everything they hear in that moment which is the most important thing because paranormal investigating I think showing it this way is the true way whereas on TV it kind of gets a little
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too fantasized in my opinion you know, ruthless destinations. Yes, ruthless destinations will be great. Wendy, thank you for coming.
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She's another amazing person so please go check out AZ pie it's, you know,
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coming back with me.
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Yeah, they're back to a global ghost and so we're so proud of them too and thank you, Wendy and everyone a part of that team.
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But yeah, so we're pumped about it. I know you guys are pumped about it and, you know, we're looking forward to it what time actually are you guys going on, like what time you don't have a time yet I told.
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Brian I was like you just let me know a time anytime after.
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Anytime after five, six o'clock just let me get there and get settled. Yeah, no I remember emailing you guys to try and find out a time so I'm glad that you were able to connect with Brian to tell him, you know all that information because I was I was wondering what time we were
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going to, you know, put you guys out and now that's awesome to know that you guys have an open time and you guys are willing to do that you know whatever time which is awesome so that's so cool. I told them anytime after five, six o'clock, I just want to get there, get set up and be ready to go.
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Yeah, whatever your best.
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Well, this location is so, so big. Number one, the, the grounds are huge. While probably have quite a few I'll do the same thing I did at Claiborne houses I'll set up a lot of stationary cameras, and that's mostly just for our investigation that will continue after
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the live.
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And I'll, I'll have a couple of EMS, our go to to tell you the truth is ourself.
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I like to use something that's that lights up or make sounds, so you'll see a lot of the cat balls, you'll see.
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And I also got, I did not pay the four or $500 or one for this crap this light ropes that light up.
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Okay, that's crazy how much they want for those number one. I know. So what I did was I went online and I found just LED lights that are that are emotion sensor. Yep.
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And I got those for 10 bucks. Okay. There you go.
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$300 $400 on that crap. You know, it's just motion sensor lights.
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So I do have a strain of those, and I think we caught some
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footsteps, I'd say footsteps but they were clearly boots. Yeah. So, um, so I'm probably going to set up like some bells or something in that area just maybe if somebody walks in there we can hear the bells, I'm trying to put something up that makes
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noise, or what have some lights because the location so big.
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So that way if we hear it or see it we can go to that area. Yeah.
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And then we, um, I don't know how I'm going to do this I don't know, I might have to talk to Brian about it but they like music.
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Okay. Yeah, the RIM pod the EMR, AMF detector was crazy when Heidi and I played music and we danced.
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Like we were having a party we were drinking we were smoking cigars were.
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So we tried that at old Montana State Prison. I played three songs by the prisoners and we got, we got some light anomalies but yeah it was, it was pretty cool to play.
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It was like they were dancing because you could see one would go off and then the other one would go off and, and we, because you have people who speak Spanish and people who speak English that were both at that location.
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So we had questions in English and in Spanish. I was about to ask you that question because I wanted to ask you, have you gotten English at locations that have had, you know, other speaking languages there you know what I mean because I mean I've dealt with,
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like certain apps that have used different languages and they've came out English, so I'm wondering have you had that same thing, the opposite though.
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Yeah, we have. Yeah, isn't that totally amazing that on that side has nothing to do with the voice or the talking because they don't have that vocal cord anymore.
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And I just have this total theory that you know the energy, whatever they're sending out to do this change this audio and frequency to be able to go through the PSP seven and speak to us.
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Whatever they're doing energy wise with these frequencies is just absolutely amazing and I hope that one day we can all get down to what the science behind it is so we can find that one frequency that's high enough for them to reach out because I have a feeling that
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when you're playing music, you're raising your vibration which makes it easier for your body and everything to connect with them. And then it also raises I think them too so it's like you guys are almost like, boom, matching each other and the frequency where you guys are able to
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have amazing communication. I think you're giving them that energy to use as well. Yeah, what you're sending out you're getting back.
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I loved that music. Wow, now what kind of music I'm going to do it live, because of the music copyright stuff but I'm definitely doing it. It'll be on my video. Okay, awesome. Well, let me ask you a question. So what kind of music is it is it like from that time
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period. I got copyrighted when I put my first video out. 1800s Are you kidding me. Yeah, Facebook for you. It was stupid. Yeah, Facebook and YouTube. It's really dumb. I think it's so stupid. It's like why even bother but it's that whole
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music. And plus they act like you're this YouTuber that has 40 million followers. I know. Yeah, still the song from you know, so I totally get it totally understandable. But we have this problem all the time with with new teams that come in, they'll use the regular
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stream yard countdown for a pair of posts. And all of a sudden, Facebook will flag it and say they can't use it. It's a copyright. It's like how do you get copyright I paid for a professional thing. bucks a month Come on, you know. But yeah, so I totally get your frustration on that definitely I'm sure you know I've watched us get a copyright just for having you guys show your evidence a couple minutes ago you know.
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Probably. Right. But anyway, so yeah, no, I'm super proud of you guys. I'm so happy you guys are coming back. That sounds like an amazing location. I can't wait to watch that live. Um, so I hope that it's not too early so that I can definitely check it out. Well, I'm not at work. So I could definitely get that because you know we did when we did the one in May, I caught every team, every team live.
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I was like, three o'clock in the morning, but to get up and go watch this team.
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It's like, hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. Right. Well, I wanted to be supportive to everyone and show them. Hey, I'm here. I'm watching you. I know.
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Because like you said, it's global so you don't know. Yeah, what time that team is going to come on. It gets like three o'clock in the morning for you to be at work.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even Raymond down here was part of the global ghost. As you know, right.
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I'm a man. He's going to be out with asking as well. Newsom paranormal check him out as well. I'm actually going to be filming and going out myself. So I'm going to be going to this local cemetery over here that I've caught a lot of things that we were actually talking about earlier.
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And see some things. I'm not going to do it for too long. I don't want to stay out too long up here because we can get trespassed and I don't need that kind of, you know, right now at that time of moment.
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Yeah, you know, so I'm not going to be out for too long, but I'm going to do something and, you know, whether it's communications or something to, you know, show my support and do do something as an adult.
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But until next year, I will be going somewhere next year, hopefully. So, yeah, I'm already thinking about next year.
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I was like, where am I going next one? I tell you when this when this event comes up, everyone at the admin team is already waiting for next one because it's just like everything is happening so quick.
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Time flies, doesn't it? It does. It does. We already have to think about what you're going to do. I know. Like, I feel like we just were talking about Mays and now we're already talking about Octobers and it's a couple weeks away and it's like, what is going on?
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You know, but anyway, Bobby Mackey's are bussed. No, thank you. Yeah, well, he's going to Bobby Mackey's. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, careful. He went with Brian Patty and he went with Brian and Patty.
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I can't. Okay, so he knows it's a little dangerous there. It's. Yeah, yeah, I mean, definitely. I mean, let me ask you a question on that. So do you have do you believe in negative energy or do you believe in demons? What do you believe?
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And I mean, it is negative energy, but I'm in your opinion. What are they like? What do you believe in as this negative thing?
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I do believe that there's good and bad. There's black and white. Oh, yeah. Do I believe in demons? I've not had an experience that would make me say yes to that. Yeah. I've had some experiences to where you're like, oh, that's that's that's not good.
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You know, I don't I don't feel like that's a good spirit. But I've not had anything demonic happen to me. But I do believe that there's good and bad. There's black and white.
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I think there is too. I mean, John was we saw, you know, we saw always that there's good and bad spirits. And I think a lot of the times the bad ones are the ones that get this rap for being this demonic creature because of the fact that they'll come out and say, I'm a demon.
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But really in my eyes, they're just doing it because they're scooting, you know, excuse my language, everyone, but they're asshole spirits. Yeah, just trying to scare you. So I mean, you know,
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I'm not going to get the hell out of my face. Yeah, no, they feed off of that.
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Fear that that negative energy you put out that doubt that you that exterminates from your heart and your mind.
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That's what they feed on. If you don't have that, then they can't they can't feed on you. You have that positive bubble around you and you're okay because you're just working in the now, you know, you know,
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being careful what state you are in when you go into 100%. I'm so happy you said that people don't realize you can't go into a location if you're depressed, if you're down, if your vibration is low, because you will get attached, it will happen to you.
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It doesn't matter how much protection you have. I don't care what anybody says. Like if your vibration is low. Yes, you're going to match that vibration and it will touch to you. So I've had it happen.
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And it's scary. I mean, I know you've had it happen. Have you had attachments before?
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Have you had it? Yes. Have you had it? No, not an attachment. We've had it happen to Heidi and I a couple of times. We've had a spirit think that they could come for a ride with us.
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But it wasn't an attachment. The first one, it was creepy as shit. But we went to and we weren't there to investigate. We were there just doing abandoned locations. We went to an abandoned. It was the first black girl college in Texas.
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And we went there. Now you couldn't go in the building because the whole roof had just fallen in. But we walked the whole property and took some pictures. And so when we got in the car to drive off, we literally got around the corner and a girl, I am not lying to you, directly in the backseat behind Heidi start laughing.
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Hell no. And I pulled over and we talked to her for a few minutes and told her that she had to stay. She had to stay at that location. Once we felt like she was gone, then we went ahead and continued on. But that's happened to us a couple of times where there's someone in the backseat.
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It's good that you caught that because if you did it, it might have turned into an attachment. Right. You know, some people would have went, oh, well, whatever. No, no, whatever. Get the hell out of my car. You got to stay here. Yes. Yes. People don't realize that the energy that they have can affect our bodies badly.
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If you can set off high, yeah, if you can head set off high EMF, high EMF actually is known scientifically to cause hallucinations, to cause sickness, to cause all that stuff. And I believe that's why as investigators, we have these moments where we're feeling sick or pain or something along those lines.
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Like they're actually affecting us, you know, electromagnetically like and it's pretty wild. And to feel like maybe how somebody was sick, how they passed away or like when I was at the cemetery last weekend with those couple weekends ago with my girlfriend who is Wicca.
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Yeah, I felt this pain in my, all of a sudden in my stomach and she's like, are you okay? And I was like, no, not really. I have this weird pain. And then over the spirit box, you hear somebody say shot and then a gunshot.
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Oh, wow. I was like, oh shit. Yeah. So you feel that kind of stuff too. I mean, just listen to what you're feeling your body. What's going on and know when to get out.
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Yeah, when we were at old Montana State prison did when we were by the first gallows outside the yard there, we heard whistling and the camera picked it up.
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Yeah, it was wild. I mean, there's, you know, it's scary because you never know what is truly following your home. If it is or not because of the fact of you can't see, you can't see them, you know, you could feel them sometimes. I mean, I mean, if you're really truly a medium or whatever, you're going to feel them all the time.
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Obviously, if you're that connected or open, even as a person, but I mean, when you're not and you're like regular like us and you do have empathic skills, you could feel them sometimes if they allow it almost it's like, but sometimes you can't.
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Yeah, that energy that has to be used to create something out of nothing into a frequency, you know, into a sound. That's just amazing to me.
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Yeah, it's amazing that they can do these things and it's amazing to see all the stuff that we have come out with that they can interact with.
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Yeah, it is. It's like they're learning just as we're learning. Yes, it's really wild. It really is. I mean, for them to be able to now access and manipulate a phone app is like, wow, you know, and if that means they can do that on this little tiny computer, they could do it on a big computer.
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And I've seen people doing these desktop versions of that app. I was telling you about that we talked earlier about and getting some incredible things and I'm like, oh my gosh, like if they can use this small tiny thing that's giving off energy, what can they use if we build something with even more energy?
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You know what I mean? That's what's, you know, wild, but I mean, that's just also scared.
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That gets into Tesla's work right that we talk about all the time.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but yeah, I wanted to thank you, Melissa, so much for coming on. Thank you guys. After the Global Ghosts on when you guys review your footage, we'll definitely set up another date because I want to have you on and show the evidence you guys caught after the recording and all that kind of stuff and you know, hopefully some of the stuff during and prior just like you did before.
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So that was awesome. So thank you so much for sharing that with us. Everyone, when you go back and watch the footage that they sent us, please listen with headphones. It's very important. You'll hear the EVPs, you'll see other things. I mean, you'll hear other things that you didn't hear live.
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So make sure to do that. Chris, thank you for watching. Ray, thank you for watching. Always.
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Everyone who's watching right now. Thank you guys so much.
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Melissa, again, thank you.
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Appreciate your time.
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See you soon.
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So everyone, go check out.
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Check them out on Google. Go to the Google Playlist destinations. Check them out on Facebook, on YouTube. Check them out everywhere and please check them out on Global Ghost Hunt this coming October. Okay, it's it's literally around the corner.
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There's a bunch of other teams that are going to be there. And Chris, thank you, man. I appreciate you laughing with us and having a great time. We appreciate that more than anyone knows. And we love when people comment and get involved in the conversation.
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So please feel free to always ask questions on our show. We'll always try to get to every single one of them.
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And we normally do. So please feel free to do that. We have on mediums, everything from mediums to all over the paranormal spectrum. So please check us out on all the social media is on YouTube and on all the podcast listening platforms.
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So, John, anyway, what did you think, man? Real quick of of rule is that my god. That was some crazy stories like I want to go to those places now. I haven't been to Texas since the case in Wichita Falls and like I always felt there was a deep history in Texas and I would love to go back anywhere over there.
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Yeah, I totally feel you, man. I mean, some of the places that they've investigated, like even last time when they were on, they were discussing it. It was so truly amazing to hear some of the stuff that they captured.
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And even every time we have an investigator researcher come on, it's always amazing to hear some of the stuff they captured because everyone's captures are different. You know, that's what makes this field so amazing.
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No, exactly. And if you if you hear the same thing, that's like validation, you know, exactly. Yeah. And especially if you're validating history that's made for the property that's actually factual known.
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It's like, how do you how do you debunk that as a person and say that that that's not real, you know, but anyway, I've had so much stuff come through the SP seven that I can't debunk.
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I'm it's like, how can that response come out at the exact same time without knowing when to ask, you know, it's it's mind blowing. But that's all another discussion.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. But guys, thank you so much for checking us out again. Follow us on all social media platforms on YouTube and on all podcasts listening platforms. We are talking with the source and a shout out to our other host who's not with us.
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Robin, please leave him prayers for him. Yes. And we will see you guys soon. Thank you guys so much.
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Thank you.