1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,620 Nintendo Switch 2 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:44,620 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 3 00:00:48,620 --> 00:01:16,620 What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso here. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Talking With A Source. 4 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:20,620 I'm here always with my good friend. Please introduce yourself, my friend. 5 00:01:20,620 --> 00:01:27,620 Thank you. Jonathan Keyworth, JK 47 Paranormal. Go Broncos! 6 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:40,620 Mr. Robin, he's the other tripod to our talk show here. We miss you brother and we wish you the best and can't wait for you to get back. 7 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:50,620 Yeah, amen, amen. So, prayers for him and his family. Just watching over his family right now. We just wish him the best and he will be back sometime in October. 8 00:01:50,620 --> 00:02:04,620 Hey, Des, how are you? Thank you for watching. Thank you, man. How are you? Hey, Emma, how are you? I hope everything is well. Hope to talk to you soon. 9 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:15,620 Just want to say real quick, we have two amazing guests that are coming on tonight. Two renowned paranormal researchers. They're from the UK. Two amazing guys. Amazing friends of mine. 10 00:02:15,620 --> 00:02:25,620 Brothers. I wouldn't even call them friends. I'd call them family. They're part of the Global Ghost Hunt. They also are part of the Shadow Podcast, which you guys need to check them out. 11 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:36,620 They have Patty Negri on, who is actually filming with Zach Baggins right now. Who may be popping in tomorrow night during their show. So, who knows? We'll see. You never know. 12 00:02:36,620 --> 00:02:43,620 So, we're going to check it out though and see what's good. But Patty Negri is coming on, so you're not going to want to miss their episode. It's going to be absolutely awesome. 13 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:51,620 But let me bring them forward real quick. First, I want to introduce from the Patrol Paranormal. It is Big Rob, Rob Hodges. 14 00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:59,620 Hello. Sup, Rob? You alright, guys? Good, good. Should we bring on the other one or should we just leave him in the back? 15 00:02:59,620 --> 00:03:09,620 Leave him in the back. He's not allowed to. Oh, alright. Oh, no. Biggest senior number one still. Yeah, right. At least he's still number one. That's all that matters, right? 16 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:20,620 Yeah, yeah. We'd better bring him up, otherwise they'd cry. I know. Alright. Anyway, another paranormal researcher that is very renowned and awesome. And he's from the UK as well. 17 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:26,620 Also, a brother of mine, like I said before, is Nando Desario. He's been a co-host on the show. Nando, how are you, my brother? 18 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:34,620 Hey, I'm good. How are you, guys? It's been a while since we've spoken. I know. It's been a while since we debated. Yeah. 19 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:40,620 Well, we're having a debate in the background already, weren't we? We were having a debate, which we're going to bring up in a minute. 20 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:54,620 So, basically what we're talking about in the background, everybody, was we're talking about how Zach might, you know, pop into this show tomorrow night with Patty Negri, and we're talking about what everybody thinks of Zach Bagans right now. 21 00:03:54,620 --> 00:04:04,620 And a lot of people are angry and, you know, are mad at him because of the whole Nick situation that's going on and also because of the way that he runs the paranormal scene and certain things. 22 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:12,620 So, we're having a little debate about that. So, you know, do you want to, does anyone want to pop it off or should I pop it off? What do you guys want to do? 23 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:16,620 Well, as you two are the hosts, you two can start off the conversation and we can start it in the loop. 24 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:38,620 Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I wish some point, I wish some point during his career, you know, the 27 seasons that he has, I wish that he got some acting lessons, you know, so it could be a little more believable sometimes. 25 00:04:38,620 --> 00:04:49,620 But, you know, they do get some great stuff though, because I'm friends with Jeff Conkle and he does their equipment for them and they've got some pretty interesting stuff, man. 26 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:59,620 You know, but it's that team, they work together, you know, and I think they do catch some credible stuff. I just think his acting skills. 27 00:04:59,620 --> 00:05:03,620 Yeah, no, I mean, I'm sorry. 28 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:07,620 Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. No, please, please go ahead, Rob, please. 29 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:17,620 Yeah, I think I watched a couple of their, their recent ones, where I think it was. 30 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:22,620 They were in an abandoned, like building complex. 31 00:05:22,620 --> 00:05:34,620 And they were saying that no one was up there and there was no and then they were sitting in the van but then there was this guy, like later on in the early hours of the morning was walking around the corridors. 32 00:05:34,620 --> 00:05:38,620 And the debunkers here in the UK. 33 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:54,620 When that guy's Aaron, it's exactly the same, same shape build facial features. So why is Aaron walking around in a vest looking like a homeless person in a haunted hotel at night. 34 00:05:54,620 --> 00:06:09,620 Just because nothing had happened for the period that they were there so it was like all of a sudden, Aaron's appeared and he's doing that. But other than that, you know, fair play to him he's made his millions doing what he does so. 35 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:11,620 Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. 36 00:06:11,620 --> 00:06:14,620 Go ahead now. 37 00:06:14,620 --> 00:06:29,620 No, no, do you know what, like you said, he's made his millions he's done what he's done. But for, you know, if we look at the way we investigate, you know, we do it in the sense of we go in with an open mind, we, we understand the location that we're in. 38 00:06:29,620 --> 00:06:43,620 Yeah. Now, as I was saying in the background, we in the port to the paranormal we've investigated the location called with her in manner, you know, and it's got some dark history in there, you know about nuns priests, you know, 39 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:54,620 doing the beach, shall we say and then, you know, committing illegal abortions up in one of the attic rooms, and you get the feel of a dark presence in the building. 40 00:06:54,620 --> 00:07:04,620 You know, but if that was to be put on TV they're very quick to say, this is demonic, this is demonic this is evil but yes it's evil, but it's not demonic. 41 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:14,620 You know, I think people need to take a step back and, you know, understand the location the history, because when you look at the history of with her in manner, and you piece together the evidence that you're getting. 42 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:22,620 You can clearly make it something to do with this priest because he's quite, you know, or the, you know, what was there before was quite evil and it's continued. 43 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:37,620 And my problem with the TV is that, you know, yeah, they may be doing their investigations, they're, they're trying to do right but as soon as something happens it and the screaming and, you know, running around like like like a headless chicken. 44 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:51,620 You know, don't get me wrong. And I don't know if Dan might say but then you run around when you get, I get scared because I'm very new to it all still, you know, I'm still learning, you know, but every five minutes when something happens it's a scream it's a big commotion, 45 00:07:51,620 --> 00:08:01,620 you know, it's not like that and the problem is, when when people are watching that and they're getting drawn into it, or they're seeing is like the real negative side of what can happen. 46 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:17,620 But like I was saying to you, AJ, you've done experiments where you've had family members come through. So they, for me, there is a beauty to the paranormal that's not being realized on TV sometimes, you know, and another example you know we did an investigation at Fort 47 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:33,620 William and we had the spirit box going, and the gentleman's voice come through. And it was one of the guest dads that come through, and he gave specific messages about this, his son, saying I'm still with you son, please make the right decision. 48 00:08:33,620 --> 00:08:48,620 And you see the emotion come over on this guy, he started crying, you know, have all this acting to get something good. Just let it happen naturally. That's what I'm, that's my thing. 49 00:08:48,620 --> 00:09:04,620 No, absolutely. And you know, and it's, you know, it's funny, like, the way that I look at it, okay, I like I was saying to you guys in back like, I don't blame him. And I don't blame him for his, the way that he acts kind of like when say oh there's something on me or when he's 50 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:18,620 ripping his shirt off he's acting kind of crazy for some reason. I mean, in all reality, do we really know what's going on in that moment okay honestly like do we really truly know if anything is really affecting him honestly no we don't because we're not truly him, but 51 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:36,620 does it look stupid as hell. Yes, it looks dumb as hell. But the thing of the matter is, is it like that for us really no it's not, but there is instances where that we do have scary moments that we may, you know, clinch or run or whatever because I do the same thing I mean I do get scared to you know like I've still been doing this 52 00:09:36,620 --> 00:09:52,620 like you know, only like a decade but still I get scared. I don't like it. But the thing of the matter is is that you are right there's a beautiful side to this and they're not promoting that side they're promoting everything to be this demonic side now and it's going along with 53 00:09:52,620 --> 00:10:09,620 what the movie side of Hollywood does, and it's always showing horror, horror, horror it's ever showing. Yeah, think about it every year there's, there's a demonic movie that comes out like either the conjuring the nun to there's always the exorcist, the 54 00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:27,620 Pope's exorcist every year there's always something to, to keep that that belief going, you know and and like the stuff we've dealt with like like AJ when we went to the Montana State Prison, we were live that whole night it was just us too. 55 00:10:27,620 --> 00:10:45,620 And we came down this one, this one path and they had mannequins that I forgot about and it scared the hell out of me I said oh shit, but I didn't run like a little bitch like AJ's laughing his ass off behind because he saw it. 56 00:10:45,620 --> 00:11:03,620 I think, I think if he wanted to build his credibility up, he needs to do live, he needs to be live. Like we do, like we do. Yeah, and I think when you're bringing Hollywood into the equation, people need to realize Hollywood, it's not real. 57 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:15,620 Even these films that are based on true events, they embellish it and they add in to create them, but people are getting too drawn because it's saying based on true events they think all of it's real. 58 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:23,620 You know some of the stuff that happened in the conjuring down in the basement, you know the mum being possessed the way she was, that wasn't entirely true. That's not how it was done. 59 00:11:23,620 --> 00:11:36,620 And I think people need to learn, like when you're watching, separate reality to film, you know, don't draw them in all together because then you get a misconception of what's real and what's not. 60 00:11:36,620 --> 00:11:45,620 And that's where you lose the sight of what the paranormal is all about. You know, keep film separate, you know, yeah, great, they're doing a movie based on something that has happened. 61 00:11:45,620 --> 00:11:54,620 But a lot of this stuff has been embellished to create that film and to get it on the TV, get it into the cinemas and you know create money out of it, but you still need to be sensible. 62 00:11:54,620 --> 00:12:05,620 Like we do on investigations, you need to keep a level head at all times because just because you hear something or something, there could be a simple explanation. 63 00:12:05,620 --> 00:12:16,620 You know someone slammed the car door shut as the as the sound travels as the noise travels, the sound changes. Yeah, we get it sounds like that. 64 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:25,620 That's what I'm saying. You need to explore. You just need to keep yourself in reality and realize that everything you see on TV is not, especially with the movies. 65 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:35,620 If you're based in the paranormal with movies, then well, you need to rethink that altogether, all together, just change your thought process. Yeah, what do you think Rob? 66 00:12:35,620 --> 00:12:46,620 I think YouTube doesn't help either. As much as we all love YouTube, there should be certain words that they don't allow to be used. 67 00:12:46,620 --> 00:12:56,620 Demon is one of them and dude is another one. Why does every American in a bloody YouTube video scream dude about a hundred times? 68 00:12:56,620 --> 00:13:06,620 Well, I'm not gonna lie. I use dude a lot, so I can't say that. Yeah, it's my age gender thing. It's like Gen X type thing. 69 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:21,620 We grew up with dude with Michelangelo from the Noon Turtles. You know what the twin paranormal, everything they say is dude. Those guys are silly. 70 00:13:21,620 --> 00:13:36,620 They have seen the problem with YouTube though, in my opinion, is they have they shouldn't be allowed to use certain words and phrases and stuff because they don't actually do paranormal investigating a lot of them. 71 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:46,620 A lot of them are just kids that go to these abandoned places and they'll just look around and then all of a sudden they'll just pretend to be these paranormal researchers or they'll have one little device with them. 72 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:55,620 They won't even know what the hell the device is because I have one podcast of all people. I'm not going to say the name of the podcast because it pissed me off. 73 00:13:55,620 --> 00:14:02,620 The guy was talking about the PSV7 and he's talking about he didn't even know what the whole what ITC means. 74 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:12,620 And I'm like, how are you even what are you talking about right now? Like you have a device that's an ITD device in your hand, but you don't know what ITC even stands for. 75 00:14:12,620 --> 00:14:16,620 That is fucking amazing to me. I'm like, I'm sorry. It just drives me insane. 76 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:20,620 But there's a lot of YouTubers that make me so upset because it's so fake. 77 00:14:20,620 --> 00:14:25,620 They fake everything and a lot of them get been getting caught by themselves by their own stupidity. 78 00:14:25,620 --> 00:14:41,620 I think the other thing that is being looked at at the moment are some of these sessions where people are contacting the dead within a matter of hours of them dying. 79 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:49,620 That are on YouTube. You know, you got a Kodi ITC and Paranormal, isn't it? 80 00:14:49,620 --> 00:15:01,620 Or whatever it is. And people are like, you know, you're doing the WWE guy and you're contacting the people that died in the submarine within hours of it being imploded. 81 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:07,620 And people are like, if you're going to do it, at least let them, you know, be. 82 00:15:07,620 --> 00:15:13,620 Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question on this back when what if it's on a quantum level, right? 83 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,620 Imagine since if we die, there is no space and time. 84 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:23,620 OK, imagine that. So what if an hour to us seems like such a short time for us to be able to contact them? 85 00:15:23,620 --> 00:15:30,620 But what if we can contact them because what they've already experienced has already passed and went on because they're experiencing everything all at once. 86 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:40,620 So I don't think that that theory is kind of wrong that they can't do it. But I do think it is really stupid because it's like a lot of respect for the people. 87 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:44,620 Don't do it right away. You know what I mean? Like, especially for the queen. 88 00:15:44,620 --> 00:15:48,620 Like, that was wrong, man. People they did it like within hours of the queen dying. 89 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:52,620 I'm like, come on, man, their family is going to be watching this. You know what I mean? 90 00:15:52,620 --> 00:16:00,620 You know what I mean? About the respect and they don't get anything because their intentions are in the wrong place. 91 00:16:00,620 --> 00:16:08,620 That's one of my key focuses is when I try to help whoever I'm helping on my spirit box, I go in with the attention. 92 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:15,620 I'm here to help you. And that's why I get such such clear responses, you know, and they actually are engaging. 93 00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:26,620 Yeah, but the thing the thing the thing what they're doing there with, you know, with the Queen, how quick they did it, the the Titanic submarine, you know, they're not doing it because they want to communicate. 94 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:32,620 They they're doing it because of the algorithm. They know what's going to be trending on YouTube. They know what's going to be trending. 95 00:16:32,620 --> 00:16:41,620 So as soon as they put in the Queen responds, they know all someone needs to do is put Queen in a search bar and that's going to come up straight away because they've got that near. 96 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:46,620 So they're doing it in this disrespectful way. That is not the way they should be doing it. 97 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:54,620 They're capitalizing on someone's death. At the end of the day, she was the Queen, but she was still a mother, a grandmother, a sister. 98 00:16:54,620 --> 00:16:57,620 She was a human being. She was a person. Yeah. 99 00:16:57,620 --> 00:17:06,620 And they use in her death to gain viewers. They and I think, you know, if that's what you're about, you should be out of the public eye completely. 100 00:17:06,620 --> 00:17:10,620 That's wrong. Well, not even that. It is a bad rep for all of us. 101 00:17:10,620 --> 00:17:15,620 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. You know, and like you said, you should not be doing it. 102 00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:19,620 You know, I don't know how to put this. You know, she has just died. 103 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:24,620 She hasn't been led to rest or anything or her family being able to process what is taking place. 104 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:29,620 And that was a big, big thing, you know, across the whole world across, let's be honest, across the whole world, really. 105 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:35,620 Yeah. But to do that and then to put it online straight away. You're stupid. 106 00:17:35,620 --> 00:17:40,620 You're absolutely stupid. No, yeah, the same thing. More. 107 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:46,620 I mean, come on, I'm ready for you. 108 00:17:46,620 --> 00:17:50,620 Oh, yes. Here it goes. Here comes the battle. 109 00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:54,620 AJ knows. AJ knows what I'm like. If I don't like that. 110 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:59,620 And you know, Robert, if I think someone is wrong, I'll say that is stupid. 111 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:12,620 And a lot of people are very patriotic, you know, and to see that because and they use it in the way the you know, the algorithm works, the way the search engine works and they're playing it to their advantage. 112 00:18:12,620 --> 00:18:15,620 But they're forgetting about how people are suffering and more than a loss. 113 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:31,620 Well, both both the two that bearded looked at, which is the half and Cody both have fundraising attached to each of their videos as well. But it doesn't tell you what the fundraising is going to. 114 00:18:31,620 --> 00:18:37,620 And that's what that's what people are tearing apart. They're like, well, all right, you're you're raising money. 115 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:50,620 But what you're raising money for, because there's nothing in your description as to where the money's going. But you're asking for donations. Are you giving it to a charity that is something to do with WWE or are you pocketing the money? 116 00:18:50,620 --> 00:18:51,620 Yeah. 117 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:56,620 And when they've been asked, go on podcasts and they don't go on. 118 00:18:56,620 --> 00:19:07,620 Just remember what goes around comes around. So if you're if you're doing this in the wrong intentions that that energy is going to come around and it's going to bite you in the ass. Oh, yeah. 119 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:13,620 It's a bitch. Karma's a bitch when it comes right around. 120 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:20,620 I want to ask you guys about this theory. Okay, there's a theory called the egg theory. Have you guys ever heard of the egg theory? 121 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:32,620 Okay, so the egg theory is technically I hope I get this right. Basically, it's you are the only consciousness and you're basically your reality is being made. 122 00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:38,620 You made up your reality. So all your friends and family are basically just made up in your head. 123 00:19:38,620 --> 00:19:46,620 And you're basically one consciousness that's just living through different lives. And you've lived your cousin's life, your mother's life, your father's life. 124 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:54,620 You've probably have billions of lives. And one day you'll be able to once you live every single life, you'll be able to be God like almost. 125 00:19:54,620 --> 00:20:02,620 It's kind of it's like called the egg theory. So being one consciousness you technically there's not another person around like we're not separate people or just one person. 126 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:13,620 But we're the same person. But, you know, I'm just making you of you guys up right now on a screen like you guys look, you know what I'm saying? 127 00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:21,620 So what do you guys think about that kind of theory? That theory is a little wild, isn't it? I saw that today. Red pill, blue pill, isn't it? 128 00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:27,620 That's the matrix. Yeah. Which one are you going to take and which? 129 00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:41,620 I mean, I've experienced stuff that that shouldn't have happened, you know, and and I talked with Laura Lee last night about this too, because I believe that this is my universe. 130 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:48,620 You know, everything that I want to come into my life, I can manifest into my life. So I don't think you're far off, AJ. 131 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:58,620 It's just different verbiage, you know, as far as these theories. But but I truly believe that that that, you know, I'm welcoming you guys to my universe. 132 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:10,620 That's why we're all able to sit here and communicate. And, you know, when I go to locations, I can tune in and get these feelings about about a hallway or a room and and sure as shit. 133 00:21:10,620 --> 00:21:17,620 I get shit because it's my universe. And this is where I'm feeling it. You know, I think we are in path, don't we? 134 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:26,620 So we all believe what what we want to believe. You know, we it's like we're all in this room now because we're all friends. 135 00:21:26,620 --> 00:21:33,620 We all have the same interests. If if I wasn't interested in the paranormal, I probably wouldn't be in this room. 136 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:40,620 So we're choosing who we're who we're bonding with. Like when we go, me and Nando are going away at the weekend. 137 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:48,620 We're going to the Festival of the Unexplained. We'll be there with lots of other paranormal and UFO enthusiasts because we'll think about it. 138 00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:56,620 If you go on a quantum level, the same way that a water molecule is made, it's not made with one one element. 139 00:21:56,620 --> 00:22:03,620 It H2O. It takes three elements to make to make that drop of water. You know. 140 00:22:03,620 --> 00:22:08,620 Well, so wait, so check this out. What if, right? 141 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:14,620 What if say God and like what we would call God, OK, it's a stream of consciousness. 142 00:22:14,620 --> 00:22:19,620 OK, just say that and say that we're an extension of that stream of consciousness, each and every one of us. 143 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:26,620 OK, and we're all experiencing an individual perspective of our realities all individually. 144 00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:32,620 But because we have that same stream of consciousness where the extension of that source energy, 145 00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:37,620 we have the same energy to create worlds just like the universe has been created. 146 00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:44,620 Whatever this reality is created is inside of us, meaning that God is one with us always and two, 147 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:51,620 meaning that he is experiencing life through us individually in each and every moment, 148 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:57,620 through each and every one of our lives simultaneously and understanding it all at once. 149 00:22:57,620 --> 00:23:01,620 And the reason why I say this is because when I had my near death experience, 150 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:06,620 when I was going through the tube like this, what I would call tube space time, what it looked like kind of thing, 151 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:09,620 it's like a tube and I was having a life review. 152 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:14,620 It was having pictures come up like this really fast, just to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. 153 00:23:14,620 --> 00:23:18,620 But I couldn't see them like like see them. 154 00:23:18,620 --> 00:23:23,620 But because I could understand them individually so quickly, 155 00:23:23,620 --> 00:23:31,620 I was able to retain all the information from what I saw was from the beginning of creation to the end of my life. 156 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:34,620 And I thought it was absolutely wild. 157 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:38,620 And it's just like it makes me wonder, like, you know, what about that? 158 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:41,620 Like, what do you guys think about that? 159 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:43,620 That's deep. 160 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,620 That that's yeah. 161 00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:50,620 It is. 162 00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:55,620 You know what? I think we experience life in different ways to the person that we are. 163 00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:57,620 Right. Yeah. So you see it. 164 00:23:57,620 --> 00:24:02,620 The way I see that if I was expressed the way I see my life, 165 00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:06,620 I think I've been put here to go on the course of different paths. 166 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:08,620 And, you know, I'm concerned with different situations. 167 00:24:08,620 --> 00:24:14,620 And then I ultimately I choose that path and see what happens. 168 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:17,620 I think my life is more like I see it as a challenge. 169 00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:22,620 You know, I'm faced, you know, and that's what my life is about is overcoming challenges, 170 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:24,620 which makes me a stronger person. 171 00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:30,620 You know, and I think that's what he has planned for me, because he knows I can overcome anything. 172 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:38,620 Regardless of how difficult it is. And I think that's what the way I see life is. 173 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:44,620 You know, and I say to a lot of people when, you know, we can draw this into out of the paranormal 174 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:49,620 when you're struggling with life, it's a process that you're being challenged to overcome. 175 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:55,620 And I think the reason we go through those challenges is to overcome them and show that we can do it. 176 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:58,620 We're not as weak as what we think we are. 177 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:00,620 Does that make sense? You know what I mean? 178 00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:02,620 We're as strong as this. 179 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:07,620 And I think people feel negativity more because of the kind of people around them. 180 00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:14,620 And I think that's what I think if we're using religion and God, I think God does that to show us 181 00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:19,620 this is what you don't need to make yourself strong and avoid that and then carry on on your path. 182 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:26,620 You know, I've come, you know, if we if I look at my past, I've gone up and down hills and, you know, 183 00:25:26,620 --> 00:25:29,620 I've gone to the bottom and think, oh, I'm still going. 184 00:25:29,620 --> 00:25:36,620 Yeah. But, mate, even that and, you know, I've hit the button and I do believe that it was those points 185 00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:44,620 when the paranormal started playing a part in my life, you know, seeing things with instead of it being God, 186 00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:51,620 I think he knew I needed help. So family members come forward, you know, and I know it's people that might not believe in it, 187 00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:57,620 might think it's crazy. But I'm telling you, I can vividly picture the people coming forward to me 188 00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:00,620 and telling me if it was asleep when I've been awake. 189 00:26:00,620 --> 00:26:03,620 And I think that's, you know, that's how my life is planned. 190 00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:07,620 Now, if I struggle a little bit, I get a message sent across to me. 191 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:10,620 That's weird. I just thought he had a girl. 192 00:26:10,620 --> 00:26:15,620 Oh, that's my daughter. 193 00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:22,620 I was like, what the hell is that? I know. I was like, I saw it on the camera and I turned. 194 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:26,620 I was like, oh, thank God it's Avery. 195 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:31,620 Oh, OK. J.K.'s little one ran and I was like, what the hell? 196 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:37,620 That's it. That's the end of the show now. We've had our little scare. 197 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:47,620 I've had this TV turn off. I've had the cat balls go off. I've had strange light anomalies. 198 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:52,620 I had my beer koozie flew across my desk once during a live session. 199 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:57,620 Wow. I'm just like, I'm like, I love you, spirit. Thank you. 200 00:26:57,620 --> 00:27:01,620 You know, it doesn't scare me anymore. I'm just like, what the heck? 201 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:08,620 What I would say, Nando, is that God must really hate you because he brought me into your life. 202 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:11,620 And you've got to put up with me now. 203 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:18,620 Hey, to be fair, you know what? You've been fun. It's been a laugh, but I agree with you. 204 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:27,620 But anyway, I have a question. What if, what if, though, you guys had a soul contract when you guys before you were ever born? 205 00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:33,620 What if you had a soul contract that you guys were meant to meet for some reason for this reason? 206 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:36,620 Yeah, 100 percent believe that that is. 207 00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:42,620 And if you don't mind, I can give you one scenario. Me and Sarah. Right. 208 00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:48,620 Sarah has known me since I was a baby. You know, she was a family friend. 209 00:27:48,620 --> 00:27:56,620 We went our separate ways for years. And every so often, Sarah like tells me that I remember seeing you at Domino's working. 210 00:27:56,620 --> 00:28:00,620 I remember seeing you in the nightclub. I can't remember seeing her at all. 211 00:28:00,620 --> 00:28:06,620 But then even with those years and then we grow up, we had our own relationships that failed. 212 00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:14,620 And then we met each other. Like one day we got talking. My auntie said, look, Sarah's single. Why don't you, you know, send her a message? 213 00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:22,620 Looked at her profile picture. She looked pretty, you know, but you never take a profile picture for what it is because you don't know who you're actually meeting until you've got them in front of you. 214 00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:31,620 You know, Sarah telling us, watch the podcast now. 215 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:36,620 But you know what? I went and met her. 216 00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:44,620 I fell in love with her straight away. And now 14 years down the line, we're still together. 217 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:52,620 But the thing, but what I'm saying, we've always been close to each other. Like we live near each other in the same areas a number of times. 218 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:56,620 When I moved back to England, she lived in the house opposite my auntie. 219 00:28:56,620 --> 00:29:01,620 And, you know, she was always a part of my life, but not actually in my life at the time. Does that make sense? 220 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:07,620 So I think God knew that me and Sarah were meant to be together. 221 00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:15,620 But he had to show us that we needed to go through these different relationships that were not right to for us to get to where we are today. 222 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:20,620 Yeah. You know, and again, don't don't get me wrong. There have been hiccups along the way. 223 00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:28,620 And I think that's that's a higher power saying that we need to test this relationship to make sure you do belong together and that things are going to work. 224 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:36,620 Three kids later, you know, 14 years, 10 years of marriage. We're still together. So I do believe he had a big part to play in that. 225 00:29:36,620 --> 00:29:46,620 See, I think here's the thing. If you're if you are your own universe, then then you'd be considered a god of your universe. 226 00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:51,620 Right. So think about this. So back back. You know, what is it? 227 00:29:51,620 --> 00:30:01,620 Three hundred A.D. when the Spartans were, you know, fighting in Persia and, you know, Christ and the church hasn't really got to them yet. 228 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:07,620 You know who they prayed to before Christ and stuff was was their ancestors. 229 00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:10,620 They they asked their ancestors for help. 230 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:14,620 And so I started doing that before my spirit box sessions these last two weeks. 231 00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:17,620 And I've got the sickest responses. Ask AJ. 232 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:23,620 He's the one that does the clips because I hate editing and I think it would be better if another person did my clips. 233 00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:29,620 So, you know, what I heard live can maybe coincide with what he hears. 234 00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:39,620 So, you know, I think that I think another thing, you know, just asking your ancestors to come and help you. 235 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:45,620 Yeah. Yeah. So tell me, I want to ask a controversial statement. This is one. Hey, Nancy, how are you? 236 00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:50,620 I want to ask a controversial statement. Rob, I'm going to ask you this one question first to you. 237 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:54,620 I have to. You have you always go first. I have. 238 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:59,620 You can't give me the first because he talks too long. He's like me. OK. 239 00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:08,620 I'll start now. Anyway, the question I'm saying, not the statement is, what is God to you? 240 00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:12,620 Like, what is God? Like, is it a person to you? Is it a energy to you? 241 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:18,620 Is it a what to you? Because to me, it's an energy. So what is it to you? 242 00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:26,620 I have to be totally honest. I'm still not 100 percent sure that there is a God there, 243 00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:32,620 which is really weird because I look for ghosts and go paranormal. 244 00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:39,620 But whether it's because obviously I'm gay and in the Bible, it's not one of them things. 245 00:31:39,620 --> 00:31:45,620 So I don't go to church because, you know, that's yeah, I'm going to get struck by lightning if I go through the church. 246 00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:54,620 But also it's I just think the amount of hassle we have on this planet with like wars and stuff like that. 247 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:58,620 I've always been like, well, if there's someone up there, why are you making all this happen? 248 00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:03,620 Why are all the evil bastards getting away with it and innocent people are dying? 249 00:32:03,620 --> 00:32:09,620 And but if if we're going to put the ball out there, he's he's an energy. 250 00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:11,620 I don't think he's a person. I think it's an energy. 251 00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:19,620 I think it's a big, big bubble out there that's guiding us all in a certain direction where we will end. 252 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:24,620 Who knows? Who knows where it's almost like a sick video game. 253 00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:26,620 You know what I'm saying? It's like a sick video game. 254 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:29,620 It's just like it's like a simulation, like go ahead and just see what happens. 255 00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:34,620 Like, oh, let me just throw a tornado in there today or like, you know, one of these in there. 256 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:41,620 Another quarter. Yeah, I know. 257 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:43,620 I get what you're saying. No, totally understandable. 258 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:45,620 Totally understandable. How about for you, Nando? 259 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:48,620 Because I kind of already know what you're going to say because of what you've already explained. 260 00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:51,620 But go ahead and say what you're going to say. Yeah, I agree. 261 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:58,620 Like God is a for me, I see him as a real parrot, like an actual person or definitely an energy now. 262 00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:04,620 But but something as a human, like was a human form at one stage. 263 00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:09,620 Just to touch on what Rob's saying about, you know, the gay community with religion. 264 00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:13,620 I think the problem with that is it's not actually the religion that's the problem. 265 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:18,620 You got to think when they rip the Bible and everything, that was a long time ago. 266 00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:22,620 You know, since then, we have evolved as humans, as people. 267 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:29,620 And I think the same with God, he would still see you as one of his children. 268 00:33:29,620 --> 00:33:40,620 If we're talking religion stuff, I think the problem is, is people, people stick to the words in the Bible, but they don't forget the Bible can't evolve because it's set in stone. 269 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:48,620 But people evolve and, you know, they're the change that we all, you know, religion has to adapt, you know, because things change in life. 270 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:57,620 It's just how it is. So I think that's more people that create the problem in those sort of like with other religions and people's sexuality. 271 00:33:57,620 --> 00:34:00,620 That's not the God bit. That's my opinion. 272 00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:12,620 But I think, you know, going back to it, you know, God is for me a person that sets challenges, but he wants us to do well. 273 00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:19,620 And that's why we are challenged in the way we are sometimes and to to build our characters and become the people that we're meant to be. 274 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:24,620 I think if I didn't go through some of the stuff that I've gone through, I wouldn't have met Sarah. 275 00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:29,620 I wouldn't have met most of the people in these in this chat room this evening. 276 00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:33,620 You know, you know, I'm still trying to debate how I got with this one. 277 00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:37,620 But anyway, you know, but now I think I think is a serious. 278 00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:46,620 I don't even know how we did that. You know, I think, you know, I do believe it was a person, but an energy now. 279 00:34:46,620 --> 00:34:48,620 Yeah, no, definitely. I totally feel you. 280 00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:54,620 And you know what's funny is that so many people will always say about that, like especially over here. 281 00:34:54,620 --> 00:34:56,620 Like I have I have a cousin who's who's gay. 282 00:34:56,620 --> 00:35:04,620 And it makes me so mad when I hear someone who's a Bible thrumper try and come at you and say, well, 283 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:07,620 you're sinning or you're you're going to hell for that. 284 00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:14,620 Like, do you not realize that man has twisted the Bible because so did you know that King James? 285 00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:19,620 OK, King James, before he made the Bible, he made a book called Demonology. 286 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:22,620 It's actually a demonology book. And it's all about demons. 287 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:27,620 Right before he made the Bible, he twisted that shit into the way that he wanted it to be. 288 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:29,620 There's so many things in there. 289 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:35,620 There's a scripture in there that says that you can own a slave or I'm sorry, you can have sex with a slave. 290 00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:41,620 As long as you pay the slave owner three shekels, you can technically be completely fine. 291 00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:43,620 The slave lives. You're fine. 292 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:45,620 You don't get killed or anything for it. 293 00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:48,620 But if you don't pay, then it's a problem. 294 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:55,620 You mean to tell me that there would be a God that's going to make a human a piece of meat, you know, that he's going to trade to another human. 295 00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:57,620 I'm sorry. God. 296 00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:59,620 There's no loving God that's going to do that. 297 00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:00,620 That's going to be allowed. 298 00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:07,620 So this Bible thing makes me so mad because it's been twisted so much by man and people don't even see it. 299 00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:09,620 They take it so literal. 300 00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:13,620 If the people would go and look at what Jesus said in Luke 19, 27. 301 00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:26,620 OK, in Luke 19, 27, it would shock every single person, every single Christian, because he actually says in King James, one of the things it says, basically, if you do not follow me, I then slain my enemies in front of me, 302 00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:34,620 which Jesus never would have said, slay my enemies in front of me, like kill and then the other other translations or kill my enemies in front of me. 303 00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:36,620 Like, are you serious right now? 304 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:40,620 Like, people need to really stop doing that and putting that out there. 305 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:41,620 And that's what makes me so mad. 306 00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:50,620 And I hate that the paranormal field has this like folklore still attached to it from this error because it's like it brings. 307 00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:56,620 I think it brings the whole world down, number one, but it brings this field down to in my opinion. 308 00:36:56,620 --> 00:37:07,620 It does. So I was saying to Nando before we came into the room for gay pride here, I changed all our logos and put the gay flags on. 309 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:20,620 And I had some followers that been subscribed to my channel for quite a long time and all of a sudden start sending me messages going, why are you filming that shit for? We don't want to watch gay pride. 310 00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:21,620 We want paranormal stuff. 311 00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,620 We're not following you anymore. 312 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:25,620 And they just one by one unfollowed me. 313 00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:26,620 I lost about 10. 314 00:37:26,620 --> 00:37:30,620 All right, it's 10 subscribers, but it's 2023. 315 00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:31,620 Why the hell? 316 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,620 You don't need them in your life. 317 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:39,620 The thing is like, you know, that they're small minded people. 318 00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:40,620 I'm sorry to interject. 319 00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:46,620 You know, when when when when when something annoys me, I've got to say my piece. 320 00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:48,620 You know, I'm fine. 321 00:37:48,620 --> 00:37:59,620 At the end of the day, when we believe in so because we're not gay and, you know, but when we believe some people like it because, you know, at the end of the day, Rob being gay is no different to me and Sarah's relationship. 322 00:37:59,620 --> 00:38:00,620 You love the same way. 323 00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:04,620 Love is a feeling love doesn't change because you love a man or you love a woman. 324 00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:10,620 You know, it's just stupid people, you know, and I think people need to draw weight. 325 00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:14,620 But then what bothers me is, you know, you got a person. 326 00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:16,620 Robert is a great guy. 327 00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:19,620 You know, he genuine everything. 328 00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:21,620 See the person that he is. 329 00:38:21,620 --> 00:38:23,620 Yes, he's gay, but value who he is. 330 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:26,620 But then you've got someone like and I'm sorry to bring it there. 331 00:38:26,620 --> 00:38:30,620 I don't know if you heard about the Lucy Lettby story in the UK. 332 00:38:30,620 --> 00:38:38,620 She she she killed babies that she was a midwife or worked as a nurse and she was married and then stupid people. 333 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:42,620 I think I don't mean to be rude to any Americans, but I think it's an American site. 334 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:48,620 They set up a go from me because they think I'm like, well, you're criticizing someone for being gay. 335 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:52,620 That's not actually doing anything wrong and living his own life and being who he wants to be. 336 00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:57,620 You want to fucking, you know, raise some money for a woman that killed innocent babies. 337 00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:02,620 What's going on with your head? So, you know, come on, people get, you know, I know. 338 00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:04,620 But yeah, so I mean, absolutely. 339 00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:07,620 That annoys me. That annoys me. No, no, no. 340 00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:11,620 And I'm sorry, but, you know, no, it annoys me. 341 00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:13,620 It annoys the shit out of me, too, man. 342 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:19,620 And noises shit on me. That's why I got so passionate about it before, because it really does annoy me because people take the Bible 343 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:25,620 and they twist the good parts of what it really is stand for and what it really truly is supposed to mean. 344 00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:32,620 And they twist it into some sick shit because they literally read it and think that God wrote this shit when it wasn't God. 345 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:37,620 It was a man. And they wrote it hundreds of years later after the fact when Jesus was dead, 346 00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:40,620 after the fact when all these people were gone and everything was gone. 347 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:46,620 So who even knows if the stories of what they were even telling themselves then, I weren't watered down like phone book. 348 00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:50,620 We used to play phone book in school, you know, or telephone game. 349 00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:56,620 Telephone game. Yeah, you know, so it makes me so mad when someone crucifies another person because of that. 350 00:39:56,620 --> 00:40:00,620 And it's like, come on, you know, I mean, it's so petty. It's like we're twenty twenty three. Get over this shit. 351 00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:04,620 We got such bigger problems now. We're fighting over gender shit now. 352 00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:06,620 Like this is who cares about the others? 353 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:10,620 I'm saying we got so much other stupid shit going on in the world that we should be caring about. 354 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:15,620 Then all this gender and all this stupid sex stuff that just come on, man, just get over it. 355 00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:18,620 Aliens. That's what we've got to worry about now. 356 00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:23,620 The aliens. Exactly. Aliens. 357 00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:28,620 And I want to talk about that. Tell me, what do you guys are what do you guys experiencing over there with this UFO stuff? 358 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:33,620 Because over here, like we're getting like little bits and pieces, but we're you know, a lot of people are having sightings. 359 00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:39,620 What about you guys? There was one documented. I saw it in the paper. 360 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:43,620 I think it was two weeks ago. Nando, maybe you read it. 361 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:46,620 It was over. I think Sarah was telling me about it. 362 00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:52,620 Yeah, it was like three lights spotted over Swindon. Someone could make out that it had like an engine. 363 00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:57,620 It was a weird shape. But the trouble was it was over an army base. 364 00:40:57,620 --> 00:41:03,620 You've got people going could be a secret kind of plane that they built or something like that. 365 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:09,620 So, again, it's like it could it could be aliens. Who knows? But they're definitely here. I'm sorry. 366 00:41:09,620 --> 00:41:22,620 Anyone that thinks that aliens are not real is in my mind stupid because we cannot be the only people in this entire massive universe, galaxy, whatever. 367 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:29,620 They're the only living organisms around. And we had wild Bill on, didn't we? A few weeks ago. 368 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:34,620 And we had such a great conversation with him. He was a guy, wasn't he? 369 00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:43,620 We were like during the start of the podcast, I was like, oh, my God, because Bill started talking about some touchy subjects in the back room. 370 00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,620 And I was like, goodbye, YouTube. It's been a pleasure. 371 00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:52,620 We're about to get cancelled. But we went on and it was a good show. 372 00:41:52,620 --> 00:42:02,620 And it's like anything about, you know, now in America, because there's all this stuff about Trump and Biden and elections, 373 00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:05,620 all of a sudden they're going to start releasing stuff about aliens. 374 00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:10,620 So you're forgetting about what's going on. Political. 375 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:16,620 We were having troubles over here with our government. 376 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,620 All of a sudden, the whole country is on a lockdown for Covid. 377 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:22,620 But our government are having cheese and wine parties. 378 00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:26,620 Yeah, well, time years. Smoke and mirrors. Yes. 379 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:39,620 I think when we're talking about things like UFOs and everything, you know, I think like when the hype suddenly come out with with the science in America, when it was on TV and then people start really talk. 380 00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:51,620 I think, you know, I think they use that more as a ploy to, you know, redirect people's, you know, thinking of what's really going on in the world and trying to mask your mask. 381 00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:53,620 What's really going on with something that's not real. 382 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:57,620 But there's definitely something, you know, going on up there. 383 00:42:57,620 --> 00:43:02,620 I do. Like Rob said, there's got to be something more. We can't be just the only. 384 00:43:02,620 --> 00:43:07,620 I'm telling you, the things that we've been spotted that people have been spotting for decades now. 385 00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:17,620 I mean, we have footage of it. I mean, they're not great footage, but, you know, recently we've been catching better footage, obviously, of these these crafts or whatever they want to whatever we want to call them. 386 00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:26,620 And like some of them are like steel balls, like literally flying now. Like, and like that makes you wonder, like, what kind of technology is able to do this? 387 00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:33,620 Like, OK, so the equator, right? Like the space station spins at like 17,500, like whatever miles an hour. 388 00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:43,620 That's how it spins around the equator. So the whole thing is like, you know, if our earth was all of a sudden starts spinning like that, we would all kind of fly off the equator, all this type of stupid stuff. 389 00:43:43,620 --> 00:44:01,620 So. If these things are flying faster than that or at the speed of that and then dropping down to ocean and then stopping at levels right above the ocean and then taking off in another direction, it's like that is totally unpause. 390 00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:05,620 That's impossible. No human would survive the g force of that. 391 00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:14,620 So it's like what is the technology? Number one, is there a human being or is not a human being, but is there a being inside of these craft? 392 00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:22,620 Or is it just a drone type craft that they're sending out as a well, let me just surveil. 393 00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:35,620 Like, is maybe who knows, maybe maybe the theory about a probe or like mess with our genome because like our whole junk DNA scientists don't understand why we have all these other chromosomes and like apes don't. 394 00:44:35,620 --> 00:44:41,620 So I'm wondering, like, what if they did an experiment on us and they've been surveilling us for millions of years? 395 00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:46,620 What if they literally like are surveilling us like like the Truman Show? 396 00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:50,620 You know what I'm saying? With Jim Carrey. No, it's better to say. 397 00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:55,620 We're not in a little cage on some spaceship. 398 00:44:55,620 --> 00:45:09,620 But I think some of it like some sort, I think, could be with the Air Forces and things like that, you know, that are sending these drones out to make it look like you're there. 399 00:45:09,620 --> 00:45:15,620 But in fact, they're just watching what everyone's doing, you know, you know, getting information about the way the world's working. 400 00:45:15,620 --> 00:45:20,620 It's one of those things that is like the paranormal, you know, people fake things. 401 00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:25,620 I think it's the same with UFOs as well, you know, but I think it's the government that are doing it, you know. 402 00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:28,620 But there's definitely something out there. 403 00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:33,620 Do I believe there's loads of different species and of aliens and things like that? 404 00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:40,620 That I don't know. Like some of the stories that I've heard people talk and saying about how they've been abducted. 405 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:45,620 I think that's a bit crazy sometimes. But again, we don't know for sure. 406 00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:49,620 We can only speculate and, you know, go with what we really think. 407 00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:54,620 Yeah. But going back to J.K.'s comment about are we in a cage? 408 00:45:54,620 --> 00:46:02,620 If we are, can someone turn down the heat and put the light bulbs on the right side of the cage? 409 00:46:02,620 --> 00:46:06,620 So that's why you're hotter. I'm good. 410 00:46:06,620 --> 00:46:10,620 Hey, listen, I'm just mad that I don't have a little juggle ball in mind. OK, I'm a little pissed. 411 00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:12,620 I'm a little mad. 412 00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:15,620 You've been running circles your whole life. 413 00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:17,620 True. You're right. I have been running circles my whole life. 414 00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:22,620 But anyway, what I wanted to ask you guys was, so you guys have, you know, the Shout Out podcast. 415 00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:24,620 Tell us a little bit about what it's about. 416 00:46:24,620 --> 00:46:27,620 You know, I know you guys have a great connection, man. 417 00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:30,620 Both of you. I mean, Rob, you're hilarious. You're always joking with Hernando. 418 00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:34,620 Hernando's always joking back. I love the connection, man. It's just totally great. 419 00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:38,620 It's great to see the light and the mood up, even though we're talking about serious stuff. 420 00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:42,620 And it's great to have the serious talks because sometimes they need to be had. 421 00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:45,620 And people do need to get out of their way sometime. 422 00:46:45,620 --> 00:46:47,620 And I think we all get our own way sometime. 423 00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:53,620 And I just think that it's good to get told kind of the truth sometimes so that we can maybe reset and become better. 424 00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:58,620 You know what I mean? And it's not to say that we're not here for love or that we're not about love because we totally are. 425 00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:02,620 But it's just, you know, some things are annoying and we have to say it. Right. 426 00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:08,620 So that's about what your podcast is, man. I love your guys connection and I appreciate you guys for coming on. 427 00:47:08,620 --> 00:47:11,620 So please tell us about your podcast. 428 00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:17,620 So I think I rang Nando up and said, do you fancy doing a podcast? 429 00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:21,620 And Nando was like, why me? I was like, oh, thanks. All right. 430 00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:27,620 Then we wanted to do we wanted to do something different. 431 00:47:27,620 --> 00:47:37,620 So then I set about finding guests and then Nando just sits there like every week, like on a on a Thursday or a Friday. 432 00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:43,620 Nando will say, so who we got on on a Monday? And I'll tell him a name and he just sit there going, oh, fuck, I don't want to go on. 433 00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,620 They're controversial. And so now he wants to do other things. 434 00:47:47,620 --> 00:47:53,620 He's like, can we do some jump scares or or can I pick someone to come on that's not really fun? 435 00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:59,620 Because we had I don't know if you guys have seen him on YouTube, a guy called Beardo. 436 00:47:59,620 --> 00:48:05,620 I have a baby. He's a nice guy. He's a debunker, a paranormal investigator. 437 00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:10,620 And he plays a lot of paranormal games on YouTube. Oh, I know who you're talking about, actually. 438 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:16,620 Yeah. OK. Yeah. And we had him on the show and Nando was like, is this a good idea? 439 00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:23,620 And he's like, yes, it is. He's a lovely guy. And we've had five hundred and eighty odd views with him on. 440 00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:27,620 Yeah. Literally people. Yeah. 441 00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:33,620 I think when I started doing well, when Sarah started doing 442 00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:40,620 Talk to the Paranormal for the podcast and the way we sort of done it, it's always been about the paranormal and, you know, people's experiences. 443 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:53,620 And it's the most common sort of way of doing the broadcast of what we do. But, you know, Rob has brought it into a different kind of like some of the guests that he's had on, you know, while Bill great guy. 444 00:48:53,620 --> 00:49:01,620 But when you watch some of the conversations that you have when he's on other people's shows, it's just like, wow, this is touching dangerous waters. 445 00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:10,620 And maybe it's just the way I think. But I think when Rob brought it up, it was, you know, I thought, yeah, this would be fun. We have a laugh with it. 446 00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:16,620 We'll be trying. I think what we're doing a little bit different is trying to bring reality into it as well. 447 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:25,620 So for me at the moment, I'm being a big advocate about men's mental health, you know, and, you know, and I get it. 448 00:49:25,620 --> 00:49:38,620 You know, when I'm passionate about something, I do tend to really express that because I do have a strong belief that, you know, people need to realize, you know, the way you are with a person may not affect you. 449 00:49:38,620 --> 00:49:45,620 But you leave a lasting impression on that person that you're beating down, you know, and and it's not good. 450 00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:59,620 There's too many people, you know, especially men, you know, I don't know about the state, but in the UK, the percent of men that are committing suicide because of society with the way man up. 451 00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:03,620 And, you know, so I do tend to touch on that quite a bit with Rob. 452 00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:07,620 We have got the special coming up, haven't we? The mental health special. 453 00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:24,620 Yeah. And I think that's what's what's in our own ways. We've experienced hard things that have happened to us that we shouldn't have gone through, you know, and I think that that drew a connection there because, you know, Rob's had something I've had something for them. 454 00:50:24,620 --> 00:50:31,620 We've we've felt the disconnection when it comes to getting the support from because the way people look at things. 455 00:50:31,620 --> 00:50:38,620 You know, so I think that's I think that's made the show better because of that connection. 456 00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:43,620 And we just have a laugh like, you know, we don't know what's up. 457 00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:50,620 It's not but, you know, for me, it's like getting to the Thursday and I'm like, oh, shit, I've got a message in and see who he's got on. 458 00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:55,620 And then when I go and look into them and I'm like, oh, my God, what am I going to say on this one? 459 00:50:55,620 --> 00:51:00,620 To be fair, it's been fun. It's been it's been a good it's been a good laugh. 460 00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:07,620 You know what I've learned from doing the podcast for so long now that, you know, you don't have to worry about what's going to be said. 461 00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:11,620 It's what's going to be said is going to be said and it's going to make total sense. 462 00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:14,620 You know what I mean? It's going to be what was meant to be. 463 00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:19,620 And that's why I've always went to towards this with no kind of script or anything like that. 464 00:51:19,620 --> 00:51:27,620 I've always just like to have people on, have a regular conversation with everyone about certain things, have some questions that, you know, I want to throw out and say certain things. 465 00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:36,620 But really just to have a conversation is a bunch of friends because I think a lot of times in this field, we are so divided in this field. 466 00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:40,620 Everyone's against everyone. It's such a big competition. 467 00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:42,620 Who's going to be the best? 468 00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:45,620 Everyone's got to have the most views, the most subscribers. 469 00:51:45,620 --> 00:51:50,620 And, you know, it's good to have people on to have good friends on and make good friends like you guys. 470 00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:55,620 And I truly appreciate that. But when can we check out your podcast, man? 471 00:51:55,620 --> 00:52:03,620 So the one tomorrow night at nine o'clock, our time, which is for your time. 472 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:06,620 And that's with Patty Negri tomorrow. 473 00:52:06,620 --> 00:52:12,620 And it's every Monday. Yeah. Every Monday, nine, nine o'clock. 474 00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:15,620 You know, you can check us out. It's it's a laugh. 475 00:52:15,620 --> 00:52:19,620 You know, if you want to have a laugh and, you know, it's good fun. 476 00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:24,620 Like I said, we don't take it too seriously. We just enjoy, you know, and it's just be kind to us. 477 00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:27,620 Just be kind to everyone and just have a lot like we're doing tonight. 478 00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:34,620 You know, I think touching what you're I think what you said about people trying to be the best, you know, if that's what you're in it for, that's fine. 479 00:52:34,620 --> 00:52:43,620 But keep it to yourself. Stop going around trying to, you know, blast other people because of your own insecurities or because you think you're right. 480 00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:48,620 Because 95 percent of the time you're not right and you're wasting your time more than anyone else. 481 00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:51,620 Because, you know, I'm sure people got stuff to say about me. 482 00:52:51,620 --> 00:52:55,620 But crack on. I've got a good family. I've got a good group of friends. 483 00:52:55,620 --> 00:52:59,620 You want to waste your time talking about me. You're just letting people know who I am. 484 00:52:59,620 --> 00:53:01,620 Yeah, that's it. There you go. 485 00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:05,620 Hey, hey, hey, hey. 486 00:53:05,620 --> 00:53:07,620 Amen. Clip that right there. 487 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:09,620 That was what it was. Nando right there. 488 00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:13,620 Twenty twenty four. I'm making a president. 489 00:53:13,620 --> 00:53:18,620 You know, but you know, I think I love you guys. 490 00:53:18,620 --> 00:53:20,620 You're right. You're absolutely right. 491 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:24,620 And to be short, just make the most of what we got because we don't know when it's going to end. 492 00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:30,620 You know, and and, you know, one thing I would say is anyone's trying to don't live with regrets. 493 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:34,620 You know, learn from what's what you failed in and do something different. 494 00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:37,620 Don't regret it. No, just keep pushing. 495 00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:42,620 So so here's my my favorite saying of of all time. 496 00:53:42,620 --> 00:53:46,620 How do I go? The future is a mystery. 497 00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:52,620 The past is history. I live right now because it's a gift. 498 00:53:52,620 --> 00:53:55,620 That's why they call it the present. 499 00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:59,620 That's good. That's good. I like that one. 500 00:53:59,620 --> 00:54:04,620 You know, I don't think I could end the podcast any better like that, man. 501 00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:06,620 But one thing I need to ask you guys is I need to guys. 502 00:54:06,620 --> 00:54:13,620 I need to have you guys back on because I want to show just an episode of your guys evidence from your guys teams. 503 00:54:13,620 --> 00:54:16,620 I'm sure you guys would like to come back on. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 504 00:54:16,620 --> 00:54:19,620 We can do that. All right. Yeah, I would love to do that. 505 00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:23,620 I'll show you guys this when we get over. And I just want to thank you guys for coming on. 506 00:54:23,620 --> 00:54:25,620 I mean, it's been absolutely awesome. 507 00:54:25,620 --> 00:54:29,620 I mean, we've got really deep in a lot of stuff, man, and I really appreciate it. 508 00:54:29,620 --> 00:54:34,620 You know, sorry that me and Nando get heated and we get really deep about it. 509 00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:36,620 We got it, man. We got it. 510 00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:40,620 That's the point. If you hit a subject that I, you know, it's going to. 511 00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:44,620 Yeah, yeah. Hey, same way. Same way. 512 00:54:44,620 --> 00:54:47,620 We have to support our friends, man. We have to support our friends no matter what. 513 00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:50,620 You know what I'm saying? And I don't care what it is in life. It doesn't matter. 514 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,620 I don't care if my friend goes out and kills somebody. They're still my friends. 515 00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:59,620 Like, I mean, if they make the mistake of doing something wrong, you know, obviously, I'm going to call them stupid. 516 00:54:59,620 --> 00:55:01,620 I'm going to mount on it. But they're my friend. 517 00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:04,620 And in the end, that's what matters to me. I love you. You're my friend. 518 00:55:04,620 --> 00:55:08,620 That's all that matters, you know, and that's the kind of message that we like to send out here. 519 00:55:08,620 --> 00:55:11,620 But thank you guys, man. Appreciate you guys for coming on. 520 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:14,620 Thank you for having us. 521 00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:16,620 Definitely. See you guys soon. 522 00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:20,620 See you later. See you later. 523 00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:25,620 Wow, man. Awesome. Awesome thing today, man. I got a little, I got a little heated, which I love. 524 00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:30,620 That was awesome. But definitely a fun time, man. What did you think? What was your thoughts? 525 00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:36,620 Dude, everything that we talked about, it just all like what I'm feeling. 526 00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:41,620 I don't know of a spirit, but like it's all on you. 527 00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:47,620 Like if you want to see that UFO, like if you want it, you got to manifest it and then it will happen. 528 00:55:47,620 --> 00:56:02,620 Like everything that we talked about, it's it's all on us, I believe, you know, and just from speaking with Laura Lee so much in the last couple of weeks and, you know, all the readings that I got from Sam and, you know, 529 00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:19,620 and just my experiences and what my life's going through, like, like I'm 100 percent sure that, you know, God or whatever, I call it the source because it's the source of all the energy, you know, and, you know, people call it God. 530 00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:31,620 People call it Allah. But whatever you call it, if you if you if you ask for it and you believe in your heart when you're asking for it, it's going to come to you. 531 00:56:31,620 --> 00:56:34,620 Just a matter of time. Just a matter of time. 532 00:56:34,620 --> 00:56:36,620 You just got to learn patience, right? 533 00:56:36,620 --> 00:56:41,620 Yeah. Oh, God. Don't even talk about that word. That word is deadly. 534 00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:49,620 But anyway, absolutely right. You know what? We're not just on some spaker, space rock and nothingness and infinite nothingness. 535 00:56:49,620 --> 00:57:03,620 We are more powerful than we think. And I truly believe that I truly believe that we are definitely our consciousness is way more way more, you know, important than we even know. So, Nancy, thank you so much for sticking through and watching with us. 536 00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:11,620 We really appreciate that. I love that you comment. It's really awesome. Amazing. We truly, truly appreciate that. So thank you so much. 537 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:19,620 We just want to say thank you. We hope you everyone has a good night. And until next time, we are talking with the source. 538 00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:42,620 Go Broncos.