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What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso here with another episode of Talking With The Source. Oh my gosh, man. Two in one day. Oh my gosh. Watch out.
Oh, but anyway, I'm here with my good friend. Go ahead and introduce yourself, brother. Jonathan Keefer, JK 47 Paranormal. Love you all. Shout out to Robin Hefferman. He's our other co-host, Hefferman Paranormal. And we just love you, man. We're with you, man.
I just want to say I love how you say his last name. His last name is Heffern, and you call him Heffernan, and I love it. I just have to say I love it. I'm going to call him Heffernan from now on for everything.
He gives you such a hard time. I'm surprised you haven't fucked with him.
I know. I'm going to. Thank you for using that. But anyway, give a shout out to him. Just pray. Praise. Please pray for him, his family. He's going through something right now privately. Wow, I couldn't get that out. But please send prayer to him and his family right now. But he will be back with us in a few weeks.
But right now we have an amazing guest that's about to be on. He's an intuitive medium. I'm super excited to have him on. Jon, you just had like a mini little reading thing with him the other night, didn't you?
Yeah, man. I was watching him on his podcast talking at the foot of the bed with Laura Lee, and I was listening to him, helping, engaging. And Dave just said, you know what? Spirit wants to tell you something. And he was laying out his cards telling me. And I was like, oh my gosh.
And the analogy that he said, like, you're the ship going through the ocean and there's fog all around you and you just don't know where to go. But just trust your instincts and just do it. You know, and it was it just hit me so hard.
And, you know, I can't thank him enough for that because, well, yeah, I'm thinking about it. So that is awesome. That is awesome. Well, let's bring him on. This is David Hansel. Let's bring him on David. How are you, brother?
I'm doing good. Hot here, but good.
Where abouts you at?
I am right now I am in North Carolina. I am originally from Wisconsin.
Okay, I'm in Connecticut. So I don't feel that that much heat right now. Colorado.
We understand you.
Yeah, it's been hot here. It's been, well, it's not, you know, it's not anything different. It's summer. So, although it is a humidity.
It used to be though it's different down here than when I used to come here when I was a child. So the weather here has definitely changed since I was a child.
But I like it. It's okay. Little weird people. I'm in like a small town. So to tell people I talked to dead people and stuff isn't something I shout out.
Yeah, right. I hear you man. I'm in Strasburg, like population, maybe a thousand.
Yeah, yeah, I feel you. Dave, how did you become into this field? How did you become into spirit? How did you get these gifts? Like what happened?
I was born with a stump. So when I came here, when I was born, when I came here, when I was, I would put it in simpler terms, when I was born, usually probably right around three, four years old.
I pretty much recognize energy. I guess you could say I didn't know that's what I was doing when I was younger, but I knew before people walked in the room, like what they, you know, how they felt, like if they were sad, anything.
I mean, they could come in and laugh and all that stuff. And I would say to like my mom when I was a little kid and say, why is she so sad, mommy? She said she's not sad. I guess she is. Yeah, I know she is.
But then that continued into I started, we, our house in New Berlin, Wisconsin became very haunted. And by haunted, I mean, it was, there was loud. They were loud spirits. They literally would slam doors in the middle of the night.
They would, we had plugs going off, like electrical plugs. They would bark off. Me and my cousin were listening to a little record player when we were little and it unplugged from the wall, hovered there and then plugged back in.
It's always called my name. My parents started hearing it. Then more stuff went on, a lot more, but it kind of, I kind of ignored it as a child. I thought it was kind of natural for me. And then when I was probably around six or seven, that's when I started, you know, saying to my parents, you know, about the stuff, you know, up in the attic.
And they would always come up there and check attics and check the doors. They'd be opening and closing. And I didn't like it. I hated it. And that followed us from that house to the next house. And then from that to the next house.
I'm sorry, Dave, just real quick. Was it the empathic feeling? Like you could feel the spirit or were you actually like,
You know what a physical medium is? It's physical media. Somebody they produce, they're using, literally using me in order to produce these sounds and all these other things. So we didn't find that later on. It didn't hurt. It was nothing. And then, no, I don't do physical mediumship now.
I don't know if I ever will. I might. But that's, it's very difficult. Physical mediumship is extremely difficult. It's a lot of learning. It's a lot of dedication. It's a lot of everything to it. Some physical mediums are just kind of born that way. So it's really easy.
I was born that way, but I didn't want to follow it. In fact, it got so bad growing up that I just decided, I mean, they would talk to me in my head, too. That was the other word thing. As a child, when you hear voices in your head and they're taking over thoughts, but they were always positive and never, ever, ever got a negative thought from anything that you can't see. It was always.
Are these your guides? Are these your spirit guides? They were coming in very quickly. Guides and angels. And as a child, I used to always talk to angels. Well, what we refer to as angels, I, they're angels, I guess, in the sense of what human beings think of them. But these beings always talk to me. They would, they were always, when if I was sad or scared, they literally would show up and do things to make me not sad and not scared.
And when I started telling people or in the church, when I tell my, you know, they talked about angels at my dad's church was Catholic. It's very Catholic. And I would tell them that I talked to the angels. I said, I talked to them. I know them. And I'd point and say, they don't look like that. And the priest said to my parents, you're gonna have to let him know that he's not talking to angels and that's not what he's doing. My parents are like, oh, you tell them.
So he told me and that's when I let I let them know that that is not a privilege. That's a privilege for anybody. That is not something you have to be a special person to do that. It kept going on. I hated it. And then I decided to just I wanted to be a normal person. The only way I could be a normal person was to just continue on to be a partier and all this other stuff as I went through life and it got so bad. I went back into doing some spiritual stuff. And then
in 2015, I died and was in a coma for two months. And then after that, it all came back exactly what I was supposed to do. And it's a lot easier and a lot stronger than it was when I was a child. I saw kinds of stuff. It's like, it sounds weird. But I know on your show, it's okay to say it when I was I think it was like six. It was right before kindergarten. I can't remember somewhere around there when I was down south here at my grandparents house.
My father had picked me up to take me to bed. It was a little kid and he was carrying me like, you know, like this. And so my face was that way. As he was walking down the hallway, time complete, everything stopped. It was just like stopped at the air.
Everything stopped. And this being stepped out at the end of the hallway and just stood there. And as a kid, if I described in the beginning, you'd be like, weren't you afraid? No, there's absolutely nothing to be afraid of.
Being just kind of nodded at me and kind of told me, I guess, from head to head, I'm here. We're here. And I was like, okay. And then he disappeared. And then time started back up again. And he proceeded to come back to me a few times.
And he was what some people would refer to as a reptilian, which I don't know why people are calling them reptilians because they're getting a rap. They're getting a bad rap saying, oh, this person, evil person is a reptilian, their eyes are changing and that came from the scientists saying we have a reptilian stem in our brain that causes us to do certain things. And that's where reptilian came from.
The dude did not look like us. And yeah, I guess you could say he kind of looked snake lizard like in the face. He did have very cool looking eyes. But I never found a meme. The only thing I found about the reptilians are like that my encounters with any of them was their emotion is different.
They're not like they don't have the heightened joy. Yeah, you know, have the joy. They just seem very logical and very straightforward.
Yeah, but now are we talking about with them? Are we talking about in spirit? Or are we talking about them?
Flash face that that the alien was real face to face flash.
Okay, emotional type being okay, I get what you're saying now. Okay, now, now I understand that was that was actually a worldly being that is was having a physical life the same as I was.
Wow.
Most of a lot of the people that I talked to on the other side, as far as like information I get, and all that that comes from beings who are not in a physical life there and they're having their non physical life, which is actually your real life.
Your real life is a non physical life. Now, then I learned from the NDE.
I mean, huh?
Do you think that like, you know, somebody that runs into the burning building and stuff like that, like they know they have to save that you think some of them are maybe these interdimensional beings that
You mean like that?
Know that this person needs to be saved.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Interdimensionals can do that just as much as angels and guides and everything else angels.
From what I found and other people might disagree with me. And that's okay. I always say that spirituality is very fluid. We have to leave it open.
Yeah, the more that we theorize things, the closer we get to the absolute truth. And the absolute truth is basically almost everything is true.
So that's kind of scary. But yeah, they can do that. Angels can do that. Interdimensional beings or I guess if we non human beings, they can also do that.
In fact, like the non human beings, I think that we're seeing here, they're not coming from someplace else that we can travel to.
And I'm saying in the physical. So yeah, the ones that are visiting here aren't there in between a fourth and a fifth dimension, I guess you could say.
Wow. And see, that's what I'm starting to learn from quantum from studying the quantum physics is that there there is a fourth and fifth dimension.
They see everything they they can see, you know, what you're going to do what you're not going to do. And they try to help.
I am seeing when I see some of the spirits, like if I do readings from home and I have the spirit actually materialize in front of me, which isn't terribly often, they don't always do it like that.
That would be the fourth dimensional thinking or thinking outside the sense that we have now. Fifth dimensional would would mean that we would really be able to leave the body so we could have our body appear physical or not be physical.
Because basically our bodies now, they're not as solid as we think they are.
I mean, we are moving parts throughout the entire body, you know, in fourth and fifth dimension, you could put your hand through your other hand because the particles would spread apart and move.
Yeah, exactly. That's the best way to explain it. Like, this is 3D. This meets. Yeah. Yeah.
3D, 4D and 5D. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I can do that. But that's that's when I really started to learn a lot more.
I got a head full of information in the coma because a lot of people think that being in a coma means that you don't know anything that's going on.
And that's not always necessarily true. To everybody else.
I was out with a tube down my throat and on a machine, but to me, I was walking around the hospital and then, you know, and they didn't even realize that until I started telling them stuff after I woke up.
Yeah. How did you know that? You know, so it's doing it.
Yeah, but everybody has everybody has the abilities. Everybody does.
I mean, I'm no different than anyone else as far as what they can do. It's what you are allowing yourself to do.
And a lot of it is based off not a belief system, but a knowing. If you know something that's stronger than believing in something, like a lot of people will say, oh, I believe in God, which means your belief means that you're pretty sure that there's something there.
Even though it hasn't spoke to you or done anything, you have no memory of it, but you have a strong belief that it's there. And then there are people like me or many others.
I was like, well, actually, I know it's there because I was involved with that being at that point.
So, yeah. So I found out a lot of stuff about death when I died. So it was a lot different than what I even thought it was going to be. It was better.
I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get to learn a lot during mine. I only I didn't have a single question. All I got told was by this bright light that I was in this beautiful place that I knew was heaven.
And it was just an untouched paradise of like just trees like it reminded me of like a Canadian wilderness that nobody's touched with the most beautiful flowers, the most beautiful colors, everything.
And then I got approached by this light and the light said, it's not your time. But telepathically with a deep voice, it's not your time. You shouldn't be here right now or something along those lines.
And I just got sucked back down this like what I would call tube almost. And then it was the paramedics hitting me. And that was when I got I woke up.
And it's funny that we all have that commonality. I mean, I mean, like, do you remember this? I mean, the one thing I remembered in that part, mine was so long.
Because like I said, it dragged out two months of our time. I got going in and out. But the the not having a body was the best feeling in the entire world.
It was weird, but it was cool. It was like, you didn't feel like you didn't have a body, but you felt like you were invincible almost.
Like, you know, a lot of people get scared when we say that. And that's a really good way to put it how you just said it is not having this weight, not having I know now it's really funny.
I feel gravity now. I don't think I ever really felt it before. But I feel yeah. Do you do that too? Yes. Because I'm telling you there's times where I'll even tell John and I'll tell Robin, like, for some reason, I feel like there's a hundred pound weight on my shoulder.
That's that's pulling me to the ground. And I don't know what it is. But I've never felt this before. And like, it'll come and go randomly. And I'll be like, what is that feeling? And it'll be I thought about that, my friend.
And I think I know what that is. Because I get that too. And I don't I'll give you an example and see if that makes sense to you. So in our lives, there are times where like we're really into the zone. You know what I'm saying?
Did you ever get in that zone? It's like you're studying something and all of a sudden, you can't do no wrong. It's just going so perfectly. You're you're forward there. When we are in the zone, which means we are in our complete humaneness.
So we're here, we realize we're having a physical experience. That's when you feel the weight when you're in that zone of your humaneness. But when you're but when you come out of that, like, like that could be with you guys just walking through the room.
Some place you're just thinking about being a human. But if you were you got to the your destination, which was let's say doing something you really love that heaviness goes away again. It's like the heaviness only seems to be there when you're not doing something that's joyful.
So I wonder, I think you're there. I think you're a Microsoft.
I said sorry, you hit the light on the nail. I apologize. There was they're doing vacuuming upstairs. They didn't want to cloud what you were saying. But yeah, no, you hit that right on the nail. That was exactly like exactly what I feel exactly what happens when I'm not in that joyful state or whatever.
I'm not doing what I love. It's like, that's when that weight feeling will come on. And I'm like, I just don't want to move. I don't want to even get up. It's weird.
floppy, doesn't it? And it shouldn't. I mean, it shouldn't. But when you have when you remember the comparison, that's where it's difficult.
Yeah. And I know that it's not like depression, because I have depression. And I know the difference between what I'm feeling then, because I'm not like depressed when that's happening. I'm depressed that I don't want to do anything, but I'm not depressed, like, oh, I just don't like I hate my life or something along those lines, like what depression for me normally would be. It wouldn't normally be that. So I know it's not depression that's making me feel that way. I know that it's something else. And that's why when you just said it, I hit it right on the nail, right on the nail.
Yeah, that's usually how I feel about it. I know before I was sick, I had extreme anxiety. I was on I was in the Prozac nation, you know, my age, I was right there when it started because every psychologist when you know, I was having thoughts all my life, I didn't want those anymore. I started to say, well, maybe these aren't ghosts and stuff. Maybe I'm just a psycho. So I started getting crazy. And I started getting anxiety disorders. I was on Prozac out for 20 years, I was on heavy doses of
Xanax and Klonopin prescribed. And also I drank like a fish I smoked, I drank like a bottle of vodka a day. And then I also smoked three packs of cigarettes a day. The cool thing about my near death is the moment that I came out of it. I don't have a memory of drinking. I don't have a memory of smoking. I don't have a memory of anxiety. I don't have any of those things that I had that I suffered with for 20 years. So I tell people it's kind of a cool thing in a way. But thank
you for that. And then I started getting anxiety disorders. I started getting anxiety disorders. I started getting anxiety disorders. And they had told me to with anxiety, I asked them I said, what was the cause of anxiety after time he goes well for you because nobody was listening to you. And he said that was in your subconscious, you couldn't explain to people what was happening. And that's why you went anxious. But they said most of the time, it's not always just a chemical thing. They said, it's the ability of you're not making a choice. When choices come up, some people won't make that choice. And they'll get over involved in they'll get the tunnel vision, the
body will take over the fear comes in and it's like, you know what, if you just make the choice, you'll be okay. Like people say, I don't want to go out any place. And if I go out some place, this is going to happen. They go right down the rabbit hole instead of just saying, you know what, I'm not gonna go. I'm cool. I'm gonna stay right here.
Yeah, or if
if if you don't mind, what caused you to get into the coma? Was it a sickness or an accident or
Well, in 2014, my life is going to going so shit, the spirits were coming back again. I didn't know what to do with it. I was confused about stuff. It was starting to scare me again. I just said, you know what, I don't know what to do anymore. Could I please just come to home? I just want to die. Can I die, please? I just want to come back. And I had this really bad attack. I was in the mud when I did this. I was covered in mud and scratches from she I had seizures really bad from the anxiety disorder.
So I was going into the hospitals constantly. That one was particularly bad. And when I was done as landowner, and I said, I can't do this, I want to come back, please just let me die. I just want to come back. A couple months later, I started getting sick. And then I got a little sicker. They took me to a doctor. I wasn't walking at this point. I was
I was so ill. I was 240 something pounds. I was overweight, you know, alcoholic at this point, all the anxiety and then this stuff coming back. I couldn't take it. I was misdiagnosed. I had I had pneumonia. And then I had sepsis. And they said they don't even know how long I had the sepsis for because
finally shipped me to the second hospital, they called my parents two days after the first one, they said he's gonna die if he stays here, we have to ship them to the city. So my parents said, okay, and they ship me there. And then I guess it's when they did the they cut me open to go into my lungs to put all these tubes in it. That's when I coded as very quick to
because I asked them like, well, how quick was it? They said we lost him, but we got you back pretty fast. But then you wouldn't everything wouldn't go up anymore. You just stayed at a steady
beep beep for ever. And they couldn't figure it out. But they just they called my parents every day. They said, he's still here. We don't know why he's still here, but he's still here. And they my parents said, is he brain dead? They said, we think it might have gotten to his brain. They think he might have dementia now because he I guess I had woken up for a period of time. They did a test. And I remember somebody asking me to draw a clock backwards. And they said my response was,
what's a clock? They said, okay, you don't know what a clock is. I said, no, they're trying to explain time for me. And I said, I didn't know what that was. The funny thing was, I just came from a time so I had no comprehension of what they were doing. But that's what happened. Basically, I got sick and I came back, I look at it as a reset, whether I had that in my contract to do that, or maybe like a backup plan.
So that that makes me think like, like, our physical forms that we're in now are kind of like an anchor, so we don't lose ourselves to what our message is supposed to be or, or, it's, it's, it's not as much the physical body. I mean, we are.
We have consciousness within the body, which is the brain consciousness, and then we have consciousness outside the body, the consciousness outside the body is your higher self that's attached to whatever is still over there. Because the one cool thing that I found out that I didn't know before this is that you're not completely here, you're just a small aspect of yourself that's experiencing this, you're not completely here, you're back over there. So, I think that's the thing.
Whatever my higher self says you wanted to do, which they showed me in past lives, they showed me like five different past lives where I said the same thing over and over and kept going, I can't do this now I promise I'll come back and I either was murdered, killed or off myself and like three or four other lives. And they're like, you keep promising and this is the one you said you wanted to do this. So let's do this. And they sent me that's why I had to come back. So I made that promise and they let me know because you still have to do this.
You still have a choice, even if it's not your time. I mean, if you were to argue long enough they were probably said, all right, AJ, just stay. But the thing is, too, if they would have said AJ, just stay. The problem with that is this. If it's going to affect other people around you in a negative way, like mess up their life plan, it wouldn't make sense for you to, you know, stay over there and be like, oh, you should go back because this is what will happen and stuff
is going to get readjusted. I mean, I don't know if that's exactly how it is, but it's why because everything we've heard from our guides. You want as far as when we talk to our spirit guides and sessions and that's everything that they said.
Follow your follow your gut heart. You know, this is what you're supposed to do. What if they would just pay attention to what their stomach and their heart says more than what their brain says, they'd get a lot further. And whenever you make the choice, make the choice that brings excitement to you.
So if you have two choices, I don't care if the choice that brings more excitement is just, okay, I'm going to get up and get a cup of coffee. That's more fun than filing my nails or whatever I was going to do. Get up and do it. Go do whatever brings you joy. Just keep doing it.
Don't you know your higher self is never going to keep giving you stuff if you keep ignoring it. You know, so you have to take on something just you know, you just follow your path and and dream about what you want to be and feel like you already have it.
And don't use the words. I hope I get something you say I trust this is coming to me. I know this is manifestation. Yeah, that's that's it is true. I mean, we really do.
I've since I came back, they've done a million cool things to prove to me that like my experience the first year I don't know if AJ if you had the first year was like a tough year when you came back.
Because everything just seems oh shit no I just sorry.
It's just like,
you're good.
I'm seeing so much more than that what I didn't see before in every in all these problems that the world is having are so fake. They're so made up. Yeah, but this is what they're all following so that was difficult for me.
During my two things happened that played later on was
when I was in the coma, and I was floating around doing all this going all these places seeing all these things learning all this stuff. I was going in and out of my body constantly.
And that was, I have to say that was very annoying and I'm not gonna lie to you that was very annoying.
Yeah, there's a part I was in, I like to call.
I call it the void some people when they, they think about the board differently but it was just this space, it was all black.
It had depth to it, it had height to it, it had bottom to it but you're just in the middle of it. Why was in there I was just getting all kinds of information that was just coming in whenever question I the answer was coming I'm like this is weird.
And then I got this part where I had this little dog Toto, and I saw her getting killed by the other two dogs.
And I'm like that was weird and then shortly after that throughout the experience.
It was let known that my older brother, we were both going to go someplace. I couldn't go, he went in this like rocket ship and flew up and he died and they said well he died, he said you can't go, but he can go.
You can't go yet. And I was like what.
First year I thought that was a weird dream. And right after the first it was like almost right after the first year, the little dog ran out of the house and the other two big dogs tore apart and killed her, just like I saw.
And then she came to me the next morning and I had a dream and she pointed out I told the story on our podcast a couple times.
And she showed me this, I was in this dream because I was so worried about her. And she took me with her eyes as her running around my parents backyard it took me to three places where she had three toys hidden.
And the next day when I woke up I thought well that was a weird dream and I was still sad about the dog but I felt a little better for some reason.
And I'm like I'm just going to go look at those three places. And those toys were all in the same places. One was in the bush that I dug up in the dream and all this other stuff.
And then a little while after that my older brother got stage four lung cancer and a brain tumor and he passed four months after his diagnosis.
And after his funeral I came home and I was peoed at every entity there was. I'm like are you freaking kidding me?
I said I'm not supposed to know when people die. I'm not supposed to know this stuff. You said you're not supposed to know this stuff.
And I went on and on for like two weeks. I was like I can't believe you did this. I hate all this stuff over and over again.
And then I had this super weird visiony dream thing and he basically said to me the only reason you knew this is because you wouldn't have believed where you were if you didn't have some sort of proof.
So they gave me the two premonitions in order to realize that I was there and that was happening. And my brother talks to me all the time. So I miss him of course.
Since then I have communication with my brother and the dog. And they're both fine.
And the dog, the dog, you know what they told me, that animal left its body well before it was dead.
So I saw they said that's just what you see because the physical body, I didn't know this, the soul can leave the physical body and the physical body can still be acting out.
It happens in babies all the time. That's probably a hard subject to talk about. But a lot of babies when they're born, the soul isn't completely in the baby until after it's like a few months old.
Yeah, see that's the one thing that I've been talking about. It is a touchy subject but it is one thing that I do talk to people about when they do ask certain questions about it because there's this huge thing right now with the whole abortion thing.
Which is a hard subject for everybody. And it is. It's a very terrible thing sometimes but I understand certain circumstances. So I do understand both sides.
But the whole thing that I'm trying to say with it is that when does the consciousness of a soul come into that body?
Because that's what we really should be looking at to tell if we are taking a life or hurting somebody or hurting something. You know what I mean?
I think we will put a lot into this. You know like that. I wish we could say that. I don't know when science is going to let us say that.
But I do know for a fact just from talking to like if I do mediumship readings, I've had people's kids come in that were born because something happened.
And I'm like, did you have, I said, do you have a little boy? They're like, no, I don't have any kids. And I'd be like, are you sure there's a little boy coming in here? He says he didn't quite make it.
Oh my God. Yeah, I had this carried back about 30 years ago. I'm like, oh yeah, he's still around. He's still there. He just didn't come in for whatever reason.
I believe they come in when they want to come in. We come in when we want to come in. If we've had billions of incarnations here or whatever,
do you really want to spend all that time just sitting there again doing nothing or do you want to move out?
And even when we go to sleep, we travel. I mean, nobody's nobody is in their body seven days a week.
Trust me, we're all going to visit our loved ones, God, spirits, get the lowdown a couple of times a week, astral travel, whatever you need.
My father has been ever since my father has passed, he's been in a dream every single night with me.
And I'll dream. I remember my dreams very vividly and I dream multiple dreams throughout the night, obviously.
But he'll be in almost every single one or the most prominent one and it'll always be me and him hanging out again
And I love it because now I know it's a visitation
I know that he's there and I can interact lucidly with my dreams
So it's like I'm get to hang out with them and talk with them and everything. But uh, yeah
any positive
Dreams that you have about a loved one. Those are usually always visitations
The negative ones are not and people always ask me I've had people say oh I dreamed about my mom and she was suffering
Because she had this that and everything. I'm like, no, she's not suffering
I said this is the only way your mind can get you to deal with the problem that you're having
So it's just coming to terms with things, but there's nobody suffering after here
Yeah, it's the same way with my brother man when when he passed, you know
AJ helped out a lot because I was with family
I didn't have my equipment and stuff and but he told me yeah, I'm okay
You know, I love everybody and I'm always here. So I know and that's what I remember
You know and and from that point of view
I don't know if you remembered enough AJ, but when I was there for a little while when I was talking to my grandparents
That was a cool experience. Actually. It was that was really cool
But
There wasn't I never had in my mind
That guy was worried that everybody was gonna cry or be sad over me because for some reason I just knew
Everybody's gonna be okay and they'll be along shortly. Yeah, like it was like I didn't want to come back
Like I didn't want to come back. I wanted to stay I was mad that I woke up. I was very upset that I was woke up
I was very pissed and her medics
I was so upset like you have no idea like I was I was actually like screaming and I actually ripped up like
When I got to the hospital
I ripped off all the things all the things that they had in my arm and everything like that and I literally just
Walked out of the hospital my family was upset with me because they figured I was doing drugs
They figured I was gonna go right back out and do what I was gonna do and of course
Stupidly I did because I was an idiot then
Luckily, I got away from it. Thank God, but the point of the matter is is that
It scared the daylights out of me enough
Where all of the activity that started to happen afterwards started to make me feel like I was crazy
So I would go and I'd visit doctors and I'd be like, hey
can you do a rain skin like I think I messed something up with the drugs and whatnot when I was when I died and
all this stuff and
You know, they would come back and say no, you're fine
And then the activity started coming and the experience that I started having, you know
Just led me down this road to here
So I went a little bit different path than yours
But it's so much similar stuff that you've said has been exactly what I felt and what I've been dealing with and it's so
Hard because not a lot of people understand it and know it
You know, they don't it's it's it's it's literally impossible to describe everything
But
But everybody gets to where they're supposed to be by stuff that happened like you your brother
Passing away or you know your father passing away. My brother's passing away. It always brings you to a point
So, you know, there's a purpose behind everything even though they were sad in were sad
We wish that didn't happen, but wouldn't be in the places we are now without all those things happening
So we have to be absolutely right
Because I can't say it enough
There's
Dying I mean that is like I think that's the biggest lie ever told
I
Think it's bigger than yeah
It's some just
of energy, right? Yeah, we're just I mean
If I can people say can you describe what it's like and it's like no because once I closed my eyes
That was it I was fine I mean everything I don't have one I had to learn how to walk again
I had to learn do everything. I don't have
one
memory of pain at all
We never pain I have was right before before the ambulance got to my house because I had sepsis
I was that was
That such a very terrible thing to have trust me
It was sick and it was gross
It was sick me gross and it's the smell and everything from just sepsis running through your body
That was gross and it was painful and dizzy, but I don't have any memory of surgery or anything
Yeah, you had a reset
It was amazing
It's like it like it never happened to me. It took a long time and I started to write a book
I was writing I had to keep stopping and remembering stuff because I forgot half my
Childhood the first year. Yeah, I didn't
Anything I was people walking saying hi and I was like I don't I'd have to ask like people who is that?
I don't know who that is
Tell me how long did it take you to get back to maybe yourself of what you would call yourself?
At least a year at least a year, right? Yeah, and then it and then as
every year since
Day by day something still happens. I think it's really quite remarkable. I mean, I enjoy it
Yeah, I I don't sometimes I wish that you know, maybe everybody should have an NDE at some point
You know too bad that was I'm just to remember who we are, but we are getting to that phase in life right now
With everything happening the shift is real. I just don't think for me. I don't think it's kind of like what all these
Woo-woo blah blah people are saying on YouTube constantly about oh we're in the fifth dimension and how to get the fifth dimension
And how to do yeah
Seven signs that you're this and that it's like oh shut up. It's like
We're all moving over all learning and everything and the shit is hitting the fan in the world, but it's supposed to
Yeah, yeah, I believe we're right where we're supposed to be sadly
You know, okay
We're supposed to the only way to level up was in pardon the pun take the masks off everybody
So everybody's inner everything about who they are and what they are had to come out
It's scary because we realize how many
How many people were holding back all this mean stuff in their heart all these years and now all of a sudden
They're out there just but that's that's even fizzling away now. We had it is going away
It's like you got to trust the process sometimes how it's going. Yeah
Absolutely
I want to ask when you see
When you either see or feel or hear how does it come to you? Like does it come in flashes?
Does it come in your obviously mind's eye? Like would you want to hear it? How do you hear it?
How are you it depends
When I first
After the first year when I first started reworking in this field again, a lot of it was clear audio
It was it was
Subjective clear audience II and then it went objective clear audience II which was I could hear it outside my ear
but it was tons of it and then
That took it away and then I couldn't hear anymore
But I was seeing all this stuff and then now they just use every Claire. So I don't have
I've learned pretty much through these guys. I just sit here. I have my intention
I raise my vibration and people like how do you raise your vibration? Just be happy. That's it. Be happy
I'm gonna do dirty joke. I mean before I do my channel angel messages
I will go through dirty jokes or anything that makes me laugh. You're like, do you do that before you talk to angels?
I'm like, they don't they don't give a shit
But they're going after they're going after my what I'm feeling not what I'm saying and not anything I'm thinking
It's just joyous thoughts, but that's it. That's raising your vibration, but they come in with all different things now
I will see full apparitions at times
Very rarely in my house. Do I see a
Apparition that just jumps out in front of me. I mean, you'll see the shadows and everything else
But I've had times like when I was younger
They would literally be standing in the hallway and you could see right through them, but it was there
I mean you're awake and it was there
That was the time I was like, oh my god
I'm awake and it was there that was where now a lot of it comes in through the mind
they
It's hard to explain the clairvoyance unless like you're super clairvoyant
but if somebody if I'm doing a reading for somebody and there's a face there, I'll see it in the distance and
Then it'll start to come closer and then I'll see an outline and sometimes I'll just see the form
Not in what they look like here, but just their form and you can feel
It all depends I hear it I see it they take me back I always say like me as a medium
They go through my I call it my Rolodex in my head
So every experience that I've ever had in this lifetime how I learn things what words I know how
Intelligent book smart I am and everything that's what they're pulling from
And they'll use that to get me the messages and like
Like for your card read that I did for you
That was basically
He had asked for a card read in my how it works with me in spirit
There's this phrase. It's not without being asked that was told me that the moment
So which means I don't just walk up to random people and go hey want me to tell you your story. No
If somebody is to ask me a question
That is that's almost like my gatekeeper goes. Okay, the doors open go for it. They
Admitted one so can somebody pull a card as soon as he asked that is like
Good now and then and then once they do
It's it's a bit of channeling so like when you hear me start talking fast when I was like telling yours like I pulled
Like first they were talking before that I pulled the card you look at it and then all of a sudden
How they do it is it's like they take my thoughts and they cover it with theirs as
I'm speaking and then I have no choice but to speak exactly what they're covering in my head
It was awesome, man. If you guys if you guys want to see it was at the foot of the bed
On Thursday. Yeah, yeah
When I start talking really fast, that's when you know
It's kind of like mixing your energy and with them because we're energy and people don't see it like that
They keep thinking like we're a solid thing and for the most part. Yeah, I think a solid thing
We're doing but their energy is non-physical and I also do have a non-physical energy around me
It's called your aura it blends together and then it's almost like to becoming one
So that's why when people ask me, how do you know that? How do you know you're right?
Well, I got that blended with that energy if you would have asked me as David
I would have said I don't know on the hell you're talking about
Into that that that that that certain vibration that certain everything then I don't even have to work
Well, even scientists know that we are everything is vibrating at a very fast rate
And that's what's making it solid for us
So I mean everything that's moving like you said that's inside of us we should know just by listening to science that we are not
physical beings that we really are more than that and
You know, I I mean obviously it takes a lot for people to come to a realization and a lot of times
People come to it in weird ways or in ways that they don't truly like in the end like religious ways
And then it gives us a sour stain in their mouth and then they don't want to look at it any other way
But I think that people, you know should really, you know
Try to match two things up if they're that much of a skeptic because there is a lot of science
I believe that is already back from our knowledge of just scientific things like
Vibration and certain things that you can incorporate into the paranormal and it can make sense to you by energy
If you start looking at the paranormal as energy like you've been saying and a lot of people don't look at it
That way they look at it with the folklore in the fairy tale way and then a lot of people are like
Well, I don't want to hear about angels and demons because that's all fake
But it's like well, you're you're not truly getting gasping, you know grasping everything, you know what I mean when you talk about it that way
I think so
Just so your viewers now or some people listening stuff like angels and demons and all that
That's literally our label for an energy. That's over there. That's not what the energy is called over there
That's just what it is that if you went over the other side and you can if you could visit the other side and go
Hey, could you guys hook me up with some demons? So I could ask them their questions
I'd be looking at you like what the hell's the thing? Yeah
They're like, oh you want to talk to something that's not gonna make you feel so good or scary or so. Yeah, that's what I want
Okay, here's that energy. Yeah
That's what I always said it's the church's way of describing things
Yeah, that's why I believe it's a lot of the intent too
It's just like when people are the occult they put the intent in to conjure up a negative energy
And then you get people that go and obviously with love and respect that go into places that
Bring a different type of energy and want to speak to different type of beings
But I believe the intent behind what we're saying is what's really resonating in that and bringing that forth
Just like when people say angels or demons if I go oh, I want you know, I want to talk to demons
I think the intent behind it is what causes to bring it forward. What do you think about it? David? Do you think that's true?
I think so too because I mean and some people get mad at me when I say that
I'm not a very woo-woo person
I mean, I know a lot of stuff, but I you know, not everything is
Happy go lucky, but not everything is evil either
But as far as like demons and all that where I tell people that actually doesn't exist
They came from religion before religion we didn't call it demon now people say but I saw a demon
And I've saw them pick up something like I know you're dead in in our experience
that exists so
The experience we're all in now. I look at it this way
We are all having a massive dream together this entire world said hey
Let's all have a dream and participate but we have to agree on a few things
What do we agree on we have to agree that there's mountains and trees that there's life and death that there's birth that there's animals
We have these agreements. So that stuff is never going to go away
but
You can also bring into this life whatever you want because it's your dream
If you want to see a demon that looks like a certain way
It's possible because it will exist then because of the fact you are creating it
We are literally creating the demons that haunt us. We are literally creating the guides that guide us
We're really creating all the angels that protect us as long as we acknowledge that thought that vibration it materializes
Um, if you hear the book like Dante's hell or whatever that's called with that guy
They they have the dream they say oh we died and we went to hell and it was all this and that
Well, there are lower levels on calm lower levels not meaning that anything lower or higher is better than anything else
It's just the way to describe it
There are literally places every scream every bad thought every dirty thought every monster in our head every dream
Every everything has to go someplace
Thoughts are things they can materialize
Are things they can materialize and that's what tulpas are and everything else. So there are places where all those
Gather there's a place where all that gathers if you were to walk through that place and didn't know what it was
You would think you were in in the worst. Hell you've ever saw in your life. It'd be all
You smash monsters and all that whatever, you know
If you can create it if you if your mind has the capacity to create it, it can be real
No, i'm not gonna gate anybody though here who says why saw didn't know you really did
And that's fine. You created it and not that you just created it, but you are open to it so you can see
There are certain things I cannot see because i'm not open to it
That's the other time I said I i was at a place where they said it was terribly haunted
All these terrible things were coming here and people were definitely getting some really bad pvps and everything
But I walked through and I got some names of some people who used to work there
I got all these other stuff where they were and they went validated it. I'm like there's nothing scary
Well, i'm like, what do you people?
And and it's all the all our perception
I mean, that's how we look at people too. I mean they could look at like I got long hair and everything
I was all hippie, you know, you don't know that just because I look like this, you know
And that's the same thing with something looks crappy. You might think what's just harmically me
Yeah
Also also what hollywood in the way that you know, the mainstream makes everything it's all about
I mean you see on youtube every single team on youtube has to go and fight a demon every single episode
And it's like really guys really come on now like do something more with your lives than just that
I'm, sorry. It really bothers me when I see that
It's actually laughable because of the fact how do you fight a demon it's not physical. What are you gonna do?
That's what i'm saying. What are you gonna do? You're not even on the same playing field
There's nothing. I don't I just don't see the point and i'd rather go and get some great
Conversation and great responses through a spirit box by showing respect and love
Then going in there trying to be a rude jackass and all of a sudden
Well hoping that they're gonna answer respond with hurting me or something. You know what I mean? Like that's stupid
That that's just a waste of my time and a waste of their time
Some people like that and I get it. It's like well if that's what you want then i'm just gonna go to a haunted house
Quit making a bad name for
The rest of us are trying you know the rest of us I I do this because
I want people to know in whatever way I can if they ask me i'll explain whatever I can to let them know
We just don't move on you close your eyes whenever this body's done or whatever
It was time and when you open them again, you'll be like it literally feels like that
It literally feels like that you just close your eyes and you open them like that's what it is
That's why every time I have a dream at night time and it's so vivid
Because every single night like I said, they're very vivid dreams
I can taste things see things feel things in my dreams like the wind the rain everything and
Every single night
It's literally like my near-death experience where I've closed my eyes and I wake up in this dream state and there'll be times david
Where i'll have dreams the same dream for six months and it'll be playing out like for example
One time I had a zombie apocalypse dream for eight months
Great, I would close my eyes to go to sleep at night and I wake up in the same spot
I was the night before where I left off
and I would
And wherever I left off that night it would start up again the next night and it was the most craziest thing
did you ever wonder though if that ever because
I'm not saying this is what it is, but i'm gonna say this has happened
Yeah, a lot of people who make stuff and create stuff
We all think it's coming just from our head
That's true. We have a lot of help so you ever wondered if somebody was trying to give you that so you could make a movie and write a book
I'm telling you no, no, i'm not no, I know i'm dead serious
I think so because i'm telling you like I have there's been full storylines behind every single thing
And I I probably should write on like write them down
I mean, I knew I know a lot of them, but if it brings you
Information, I mean I used to write when I was a child
I used to write all these two or three line like poetry things and people go who wrote that and be like, uh me
I would just think
There's certain things they told me when I was younger and now that i'm my age now. It's like, oh now I get it
I didn't when I was when I was real young
I went through a spot and I don't remember what grade I was in it was elementary school, but I kept writing
Throughout the many faces lies the traces of our own and I kept going
I don't know what that means and I kept writing it went on and on and on and on and I wasn't at all
Years and years and years later when I learned oh throughout the many faces lies the traces of our own everybody we see is actually
uh us
It's an aspect
Yeah
So everybody's everybody's in this aspect of you. So I always tell people when you treat someone like crap
You're literally treating yourself like crap at that point
You won't feel now because you are focusing on your who you are right now
But it's something you're going to be on the other end of that
You know what?
I think that that's a reason now for me like especially having a new experience
I think now like anytime I get into an altercation with somebody even if just a screaming match like, you know
Just me being getting angry at somebody even if i'm not in the wrong and that person
Disrespecting me multiple times and got me that way. I still later on will be like, oh my gosh
Like I feel bad
I feel like the bad guy and I want to go and apologize to that person which I normally will do
And it's so like people are like what is wrong with you?
But you know what? I feel like I just yelled at myself. It's like that
And it's basically what we're doing and if you're I swear to god people
If you are really good to people all the time, that's going to come back to you
It's going to come back to you. It has to come back to you because how you treat someone they they they actually have to treat you
Back, not maybe that person but that situation has to come back to you. It's just it's a universal law
Have you ever studied heretics? You know what heretics is? It's like the seven principles. It's like yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah law of assumption law of all those things i've used all those laws and they all freaking work
So but I think what happens with people is they'll go on youtube and they'll watch like an abraham video for 10 minutes and go
Oh, i'm a master manifester. Okay. No, you watched it youtube for 10 minutes. There's a little bit more to it than that
Yeah
Well, you're right
Yeah, there's a little bit more people sit in a chair and go well
I've thought about that new car for like 17 years now and I never got it. That's because your lazy butt has to get
Up and apply the law of action, which means put one foot towards that drain
They'll move the rest and get it to you. But if you just there you're never going to get it
Yeah, there's more about the past like if you if you think a lot about the past is that going to dictate?
Your life path or your your future should we forget the past and live in the present or
Depends on what you want to use the past for if um
If you take the past a bad past and you bring it towards you bring it forward
Yeah, it's going to happen. The past cannot repeat itself. It's already happened. Actually, it's still happening. You're still actually there
You're still doing it
I mean that's hard to explain but when you bring up the past if you were cheated on by a million people
you know in relationships and
When you sit here and meet somebody new and that past comes up and says you remember this happened this happened this happened
This happened you just made it happen now because it's going to now happen
It's going to that person's going to be bad to you just because you brought that past back in you can't bring the
The only thing you can bring from the past actually is the feeling
You can't bring the actual past back. It can't be repeated. It's done
But the you can bring up over and over if you always tell yourself I never get this
I never get that and that's because of your past you're never going to get this
I'm never going to get that you have to change it if you're going to use the past. I would say
This bad thing came up for my past instead of going. Oh, it's gonna happen again. I just say to myself real quickly
Wait, what did I learn from that if it's gonna come up again? What did I learn from it? So I don't repeat it
All right, cool. Then let's move on and we have to forgive too
And I know people when you forgive things that doesn't mean you're forgiving the action or forgiving that person for being bad
Basically what you're doing is just saying I don't have time for you and for what happened. It's done
I'm not worried about revenge. It's going to come back to you
I'm just gonna move on when you do that you take your power back and your whole life can really change for
But if we dwell on things from the past
That's where it gets sticky. That's you trying to
Swim backwards swim upstream and that's just silly at this point
That famous uh that famous quote. What is it? Uh, if holding a grudge is like
Drinking poison and hoping it kills the other person
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is, you know and um, and you're absolutely right, you know, I totally agree nancy
Noonan says if we don't learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it and it's funny that you said that it's so true
Yeah, you just got to learn from it if it keeps coming up and
That's one thing spirited. I always told me my guy and then one of my guys he's they're hilarious, but
He said when you keep thinking about something over and over in you and you never forget it
It's and it's gonna start repeating
And the reason something repeats over and over bad isn't because the universe is trying to break you down in anything
It keeps saying it's gonna start repeating
Over and over bad isn't because the universe is trying to break you down in anything. It keeps saying you didn't learn from this
You said you wanted to learn from this
So we're gonna keep reading that situation into your life until you learn with it, you know
It's like people saying oh whenever I date people I date a narcissist
well
Put it out there now and every comes to you a narcissist because you haven't learned to say get the hell away from me
Hmm. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, absolutely
Everybody has power if people only realize how freaking powerful they were
Nothing could stop anybody here, but we hold on hold on. I have to ask you a question
Did somebody just walk by in front of you?
In front of the camera was somebody walking in the room in front of you
Nope, i'm the only one here. Did you see that john?
There was a person that looked like walked by i'm gonna i'm gonna read when I get done with this
I'm gonna go back and look at this footage because there looked like there was a person that walked by that was just looked like
The shadow of the window hit perfectly, but it looked like they were in front of the camera
Like I can't see them. It looked like you walked it walked by you like it was really weird. I saw how freaked out you looked
Yeah, man
You didn't say nothing like i'm sorry that was stupid to me, but I mean
I say stuff all the time in here, but it doesn't scare me anymore. No, no. Yeah
I'm not trying to say it's scary or i'm just saying I think it's pretty cool
In my tiktok videos, I've had people say did you see the orbs and then i'll go back and either tell them
No, I need pledge. That was dust
I've had i've had I did one which was really odd
It actually got me I was talking about angels in the tiktok
And when I started talking about angels, I was just so happy and I was giving this whole thing about angels
And as i'm talking a little feather came down from the ceiling. I don't have a bird or anything. I don't know where
And angels don't even have feathers, but it's a symbol
And it came down and everybody in the video said where'd the feather come from? Did you see the feather? I'm like what?
It floated down
Yeah, so I mean
Yeah
That is great. That is awesome. I wanted to ask you one more time
I wanted to ask you one more question before obviously we go john you have anything you want to say real quick
No, man. I can't thank you enough david for coming on man. It's
I'll pull some cards for you or something. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll take it
All right, so
There's a path you were supposed to be on I firmly believe that if you will repeat mistakes until you learn from them
Which puts you back on the correct path
So yeah, I mean just like what we were just saying, you know
It's just gonna make you repeat those mistakes over and over it seems, you know
I know for my myself it does
Definitely over and over again and it's like are you gonna get this or what's up and like slap me in the face with it
a couple times
The biggest lesson I need to tell people we all have something that's propelling us forward
We have some kind of something we want to do in our lives. That's good
You have a goal
But you know what?
You just can't sweat the small stuff here if somebody yells at you somebody hits your car somebody does something
You have to tell yourself. It really doesn't matter at the end of this life. It's always a happy ending
This is just a very short little piece of who you are and when people go, oh, I can't do this anymore
I'm 60. I can't study for that. Why why wouldn't you do it now?
Why wouldn't you start it now?
Who cares if you're 60 or 40 or 30 when you start something plus you're an eternal freaking being you're never gonna die
You've got eternity to accomplish anything you ever wanted to accomplish. So
Knock it off. Enjoy
Yeah, enjoy your now
You know what? That was the best way I could have ended it right there
We can't end it any better than that david. Thank you so much for coming on. I truly appreciate your time
Are you doing the card reading?
Huh?
Were you gonna pull a card? Oh, do you want a card? Yeah, let's pull a card
All right. Yeah, if you guys got time, I got you one. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Let's do it
Okay, we'll get um
Um, just so everybody knows if you hear me say something out loud
I'm still the only one in my room. I talk out loud when they talk to me sometimes
It's the only way I can hear them. So all right. It's just how they do it
I know when people do readings for me that I always have to tell them that I talk out loud just so you know
But they all think it's cool
Okay, I'm talking it's cool
Cool
It's because they're people let's go to do I have a question aj or you just want us here what they have to say
Um, you know what?
I can I ask can I ask for someone in the audience for if I give you a name in the that's in the audience can I
Get okay. So there's a there's a lady in the audience. Her name is emma jane
I want you to pull a card for her
She's going through some things in her life and I want to see if maybe you can give her some
Closure on it or something that spirit can tell her
I'm a jane. Yep
Thank you before I pull the card they said
Emma jane's got a little uh
Subconscious thing in the back of her head from her childhood
That's kind of disrupting some of the stuff that she's doing now
They said don't worry about that. You'll let that go because it doesn't make a difference anymore for you
Two cards came out for Emma jane
Thank you Emma jane and this is funny see they said that and here's the card so this card that comes up
It's called distant thunder
Now you see the bottom that Emma jane
That's what is more it's clearing the air
That's what's happening to you right now. Literally is not your fault. I'm a gene. It's not um
Um, you you don't have anything to do. It was how things were reacted around this certain situation
Um, thank you
Uh, they said basically you have to take the situation that you're in right now and you have to rise above it
So if you think like a bird
Uh pretend you're like a bird and kind of fly above that situation and see it from the top
when you see it from the top, it's not going to seem
as
Terrible as it was if you were standing right in front of it because there's a bigger picture of what's going around
Other people are also being affected by this but I need to tell you this
You're gonna have to let those other people just be affected by it because it's part of their journey
Your journey is a little different now. This isn't gonna last too long. Okay, I don't know an exact date
You want to go where november 26
November 27th is a very important date for you my dear. It's november 27th this year
Uh is something I don't know what's happening. It just came up in your uh in your energy
The second thing that come in is infinite abundance
Abundance miss emma jean, which you could use a lot of this abundance isn't it's it's not as much monetary
It could be but there's an abundance of good that's coming your way
You just have to be open to that if you just close your eyes and you just if you're having a particularly bad day, emma
Close your eyes and just ask just or just say
Hey, listen, I need help dealing with this
I need to put it out of my mind for a moment and i'm going to put it out of my mind for a moment
And then do that. I'm a gene i'm going to give you one more thing if she's still on here
I want you to close your eyes
And then take a really deep breath guys. You can do this too if you want this takes two seconds, and this is amazing
Close your eyes. Take a really deep breath
Have you taken this deep breath? Let your eyes your face or features everything just relax
Hold it for a moment and then breathe it out
And then i'm going to take another one breathe in very deeply and when you get to the top of your breath ask yourself
What is my next thought ask yourself that question?
You shouldn't have one at that moment
Did you have a thought was it just blank
It was blank
It's supposed to be blank. That's how you just need to clear something
So emma that's a lot of things emma you just need to get rid of some of those thoughts
They're just kind of hanging around
Um some of these thoughts coming around in your head. It's almost like they they think they're in a playground
All right, so it's time to just tell some of those thoughts you got to come back another time
I don't have time to deal with you, but you're going to be okay
And like I said november 27th is a pretty decent day for you
24 is also really nice uh coming up around february
I don't know what february 3rd means to you, but it's right around february 3rd of 2024 also
Now these dates are not set in stone for me because it's very hard for me to get a period
A time period conjunction, but that's what it looks like to me to where they're compacting it for me
And I hope that helps you my dear. Yeah. No, thank you so much
I'm going to actually send this to her afterwards so she could see it personally if she's not in here
But um, can you do another one for nancy because nancy's still with us on here nancy. Would you like one?
Absolutely if nancy says yes
Yeah, nancy if you want if you want to pull a card for you, please just say yes for us
I don't want to do it without your permission. That's all I got to do
She said love, too
I'll tell people no matter what you do in this life when you're confronting another human being or another spiritual anything
You always want permission to do something with that person. It's permission is just always good, you know
Can I have permission to say something nice to you? Absolutely without you don't obviously permission to but one request
Nancy
Dancing before I pull a card for you
They're giving me a symbol and the symbol is you standing
It's you standing in the middle of the ocean on a rock with a huge giant tidal wave coming now
Before you get all freaked out that is my symbol for there is a wash of love coming your way
That's what that is for me. Um, this love doesn't necessarily mean in uh, relationship stuff
Although it could where am I looking to where are you taking me?
Some of the things that you've been wanting to do as a child
They're telling you you're supposed to pull those cards for you. I'm not going to do that
They're telling you you're supposed to pull those back out because they've been creeping in again
You've kind of been thinking back like oh when I was younger
I wanted to do this you're supposed to go ahead and do it if you would like to it's still there
It hasn't gone away. The little part of you is still out there
Sometimes you just got to call back that little child who like ran away when some traumatic happened to you when you're younger
If you know what i'm talking about that little piece of you kind of just said i'm going to go over here
You kind of sent that piece away to protect yourself. It's now time to call that piece back
Okay, when you call that piece back, just let that part of you know, everything's cool
Now i've got a handle on this and I know what i'm doing. Thank you
and this is a card that they did and this is why it's
discovering your truth so
um, whereas talking about before this is saying
You might lose some people if you need to walk away from anybody who is like really bringing you down or doing something
Please feel free to let them go away. It doesn't mean to yell at them or anything
It's just you not going to give them that part of you anymore
Um, if there's something negative turn around and walk away
You are going to find very shortly that people in your life are going to start kind of falling back
It doesn't mean they don't like you. It doesn't mean you don't like them
No, it means that the energy is different and sometimes our time with certain energies comes to an end. It's no longer needed
It's not going to be healthy for us. So you'll see certain things and situations
Back off from you very shortly and the last part of that because they told me there's one more part. Thank you
Gotcha
And this is the big one. This is the last one they brought up. It's rejuvenating rain
It's basically just telling you it's time to clear the past the ill and present
That's what they were talking about before with that little piece of you something traumatic happened or something that you had
I don't know exactly what it is. Don't tell me everything because it's not my business but um,
That's that's part of that's part of the reasons why sometimes it feels like you can't get the way you're you're you want to go
Just it's only because you're holding on to that stupid little thing
You just have to acknowledge and tell everybody that you're really cool
And please nancy look in the mirror and tell yourself that you're really cool
And because you don't do that enough you you you you're too critical on who you are
And you're actually got super cool energy nancy and that's usable
Um, you are what they would call a person of the light
So all you really need to do sometimes is just sit on a park bench and anybody who sits and talks to you is going to get
Some kind of really special dose of light or something from you keep that in mind
You have that innate power to do that. You came here with it. You don't even have to intentionally do it
It's just gonna happen
There we go. Wow
Thank you so much, man. That is absolutely that is awesome. That is so cool
David thank you so much
breath
And nancy just said oh, that's crazy. She goes
Well nancy, i'm glad that you got it, you know, you got a reading and i'm glad we could do that for you
David, thank you so much for your time. I'd love to bring you back on she says just wow
um
So, thank you. Um, i'd love to bring it back on
Whatever you want
Please yeah, definitely
We'll do more definitely pulling cards because your your ability is absolutely amazing nancy says thank you
I'm going to say thank you for my friend emma
I'm going to send that over to her because it is something that she me and her talked about so
Um, I want to send it over to her because that was something very important for her to hear
Um, I just okay
This is just a little bump in the road. It's just a little glitch solid
Definitely. So thank you so much david. Hey until next time. We really appreciate you
Please make sure to check out david hansel online go go to i'm gonna pull up his stuff
I'm, sorry
I almost forgot to pull up your banner real quick because we've been talking so deeply
Um, check out follow david hansel at his website at they whispered to me.com and all his social medias
Please go ahead david and shout out the rest of your stuff
I just want to say if um, um for your people who watch this if you go to my website
There's something on there called the clarity reading
Um, that's like when I talk to guides and stuff and and get information like that
It's not as much for mediumship readings
It's for you know, like your life purpose if you use the code the gift at checkout
It'll take ten dollars off and I think that makes it like forty five dollars
Nice the gift remember
Yeah, yep
Awesome. Well danny thank you so much. We truly appreciate you and thank you so much for your time. Thank you my friend
Absolute pleasure my absolute pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you. See you soon
Yeah
Wow, man, I tell you absolutely awesome
Like so like totally blew my mind. I mean especially like you don't know what's going on with my friend obviously and she
He hit on was absolutely something she needs to hear so I can't wait to send that over
Um, it's gonna be truly amazing. That's awesome. And like the card he read me on his show
Just hit home. Yeah, he's right on he's spot on with everything
That is absolutely awesome. See and uh, I didn't want to take up too much more of his time
But I will ask him for a card to be pulled next time when he comes on because
I did want to ask but i'm like no, let me hold back
I wanted to get our viewers some some uh people to uh, you know get their readings and stuff like that
But you know what would be an awesome show dude if we had him and patty negri on the same time, dude
Just listen to their conversations about that
Oh, I'll tell you what man like his outlook and everything on the the paranormal and on you know from his nde and everything
I got it's totally spot on with what I experienced and what i've you know
Been getting through my spirit boxes and everything for a long time now
So yeah, i'm just super grateful
He was able to come on and i'm glad you were able to have your reading before coming on he came on
So you could talk a lot about it and uh, I just been having dude. This has been a great day, man
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