Hello, everybody. Welcome to the stream. I'm
here with Joe, and today we are going to be talking
to the PiFi founders. If you guys have not heard
about PiFi, you're going to hear about them today.
And all relevant links should be in the link
in the description below, so you guys can check
those out. But if Aftermath is ready, we'll bring
him in. Can you give us a thumbs up? All right.
How's it going, guys? Welcome. Hello. Hey. I've
been watching your streams, so I'm finally on
the stream, finally. It's nice to speak with
you. Yeah, actually, we've been chatting back
and forth quite a bit. Joe, nice to meet you
face -to -face as well. I think Kelvin's going
to be here today. Yeah, bring him in. Awesome.
Hello, Kelvin. Hey, guys. Hey. Welcome. yeah
well just let me mute him on on discord here
he's he's on discord there we go okay sorry about
that all right well let's get into it yeah how
are you guys how are you guys doing today pretty
good uh good nice weather out get to see the
ocean glad the weather's nice for you because
it's not for me it is not for me either i'm up
in canada the cold the cold canada weather up
here man we got ice and snow still on the ground
so that sucks the grass is getting green here
oh that's nice jealous so do you want to get
into i guess we could start off with speaking
of weather ah yeah good transition yeah um what
got you into crypto I guess that's that's like
the question everyone asks in an interview is
like the first thing. How did you find this space?
Sure. We have a long history and I'm sure Kelvin
can speak to a bit of it, too. But I got back,
let's say, 2019, 18. I was dabbling in the crypto
space. I had a brother who was. a fanatic for
a period of time who was into bitcoin and then
into ethereum at a later date but uh ultimately
he kind of turned me into a bit of a crypto junkie
myself for a period of time um uh most of my
experience was uh dabbling in the altcoin space
to begin with and to be honest you know the altcoin
space has had its ups and downs as everybody
knows and It was difficult to gauge who was going
to be a good project to get into. There was a
lot of due diligence that I had to get into in
order to define kind of what my niche was going
to be in the space. But yeah, I started off,
to be honest, I started off with a banger. It
was Block Create. I jumped into their Discord.
I have one of theirs. Yeah, you do? Yeah. I mean,
it's nice to have a little bit of light in your
life, right? But those guys, obviously, something
happened with them. I don't even know what they're
doing necessarily at this point. But I started
off there, and that's where I met a small group
of the team that exists today for Pi5. Connected
on fairly odd things, but we found that each
one of us had some different skill sets. So I've
been in the IT industry for, well, almost my
entire career. I'm probably coming in on 15 to
17 years -ish, I would think, in the professional
industry on the enterprise side. And we all have
day jobs. you know we are very open about that
um and some some of the guys uh came after the
fact but most of us found each other in block
create and during that time we noticed that there
was no utility for that token we figured out
obviously that it was a dying project ultimately
at the end of the day and we wanted to bring
a little life into the project and that's kind
of where our mutual paths cross because uh juice
who's not here at the moment but uh you guys
have discussed a lot for a long time yeah uh
all in probably most of the conversations you
guys had was in the blockchain bay or as it was
before crypto labs um and juice got together
with kelvin Kelvin started developing what we
thought was going to be utility for the block
create token. We were actually thinking, you
know, a piece of hardware that has some utility
that could actually function as a node or potentially
as a miner. We just thought that those ideas
were kind of at the forefront of what was happening
in the space at the time. And we just... figured
hey maybe we can bring some life back into this
project ultimately we found out pretty quickly
that if we were going to tie ourselves to a project
like that and they didn't care about their token
or their utility or their tokenomics model that
it just wasn't going to align really well for
us long term so if we were going to do something
what were we going to do and that's kind of What
really got me deep into crypto at that point,
and I started looking at a lot of the different
projects out there. Planet Watch was one of them
as a result, WeatherXM. And then moving on from
that, even into today's day, every day I'm looking
at what's going on in the different spaces. A
lot of these multi -miners that are coming out
are pretty fascinating. So, yeah, I have a fascination
for crypto simply based on the concept of what
it is. And I do believe that there is a true
utility for cryptocurrency as a it may not be
a global currency, but it has utility in the
sense that it decentralizes and it takes that
responsibility and onus off of. um a one sing
single individual and and i appreciate that i
like the idea of that um and i think that'll
be better for this this world this economy and
wherever it's headed right now you know so that's
my story i'll let kelvin maybe chime in too but
yeah so my story is pretty similar to his we
kind of all met up and block create uh And originally,
our idea was pretty similar to the other projects
that were out there, like PlanetWatch and WeatherXM.
Let's just make, I guess, an environmental data
collection miner that could possibly add that
utility to blocks. But, you know, over time,
that idea kind of morphed into... giving users
the ability to add as many sensors as they want
from any brand or, you know, whatever, and kind
of visualize it. We kind of noticed that projects
that were out there were kind of taking hardware
and in a way scalping or upping the price on
it, you know, and, you know, really overcharging.
And we wanted to make a project that was, you
know, easy barrier to entry. So that's kind of
how the project kind of came about in terms of
me and getting involved in crypto. One of my
first purchases was Dogecoin, surprisingly. And,
you know, from there, I just kind of started
digging a bit deeper into the space. And, you
know, I kind of came across Algorand. I thought
the developer experience was a lot smoother than
a lot of the other coins out there. And it just
kind of took off from there for me. I'm glad
you brought up Algorand because it had me a question
that maybe I'll ask a little later. I guess I
could ask it now. Were you guys exposed to the
MyAlgo wallet leak or the wallet hack that happened?
Did that affect you guys at all? No. Well, at
least not for me personally in any way, or the
project. At this point in time, we're sitting
on testnet. So ultimately, the tokens aren't
necessarily worth anything. But we'll get into
that, how that's going to transition forward.
But not me personally and not the project. I
don't know, Kelvin, if you were exposed to that.
You never mentioned it, so I assume not. No,
I wasn't exposed to it. Yeah, but I know what
was happening there. I mean, that's horrible.
And what a horrible way for people to experience
a great, in my opinion, what's going to be a
great blockchain down the road. I really think
it's disappointing to see that kind of stuff
happen to all these smaller projects. But, you
know, everybody's got to protect themselves,
protect their wallets. You know, if it's not
if it's not if you don't own the keys, then you
don't own the money. So exactly. Yeah. Yeah,
I think Algorand is a very unique network. It
was like the first one that I had to interact
with my phone on and scan a QR code. And there
was like that separation, which I thought was
pretty cool to confirm transactions. I noticed
your website. I was just checking it out before
the stream. It's changed a lot. You guys have
improved on it a lot. Do you guys want to touch
on what's been going on the past? I guess the
past week you guys have had some interesting
stuff. For sure. Kelvin. Can probably talk to
the website changes. Yeah, so there's been a
few different changes. We're actually kind of
we've for the past around five or six months,
we've been working on revamping our software
and providing, you know, a better experience
overall. I feel like our first iteration wasn't.
you know, fully our best. And, you know, we've
really been working hard to kind of put together
that new version. We've also included an affiliate
program that can, you know, anyone can sign up
for. And with that affiliate program, you'll
be able to kind of get those referral links and,
you know, help spread the word about the project
as well. With the new software. We've got a lot
of our users were asking for Docker compatibility.
So we've kind of allowed users to kind of containerize
the application. access it that way. And what
also comes with the application is an open API,
if you will, that would allow you to access the
raw data of all of your sensors, depending on
what sensor that you have connected and you put
in. So there's a lot of great changes with our
software. So that's kind of what we've been working
on for the past five or six months. We've had
a lot of... backlash from our community for taking
so long but you know we've really been you know
focusing and putting on the work and give us
a real quick rundown on what the pie five project
is about like the entirety of the idea about
it the challenges that you're trying to provide
solutions to just the essence of the of the project
overall Yeah, I can probably answer that to some
degree here for you guys. You know, PiFi Network
was created with the intent of allowing people
to centralize off -the -shelf type products.
into one visible pane so that you have accessibility
to that data and to that information in one central
location. One of the problems that a lot of people
run into today and part of what we'll probably
talk about also is we are moving into smart home
integrations. And so part of the process in doing
that is finding ways essentially to take these
off -the -shelf products that people are integrating
into their homes today with these standalone
visible UIs. And they're having to access multiple
applications in order to access the data or visualize
that data or even control and manage those sensors
in their homes. So a big part of what we're trying
to accomplish here is... Bringing all of those
pieces together so that you have accessibility
to all that data in one central location. I think
the power of that also allows us to be able to
manage and allow for more control of what's happening
with that data set that you have. You get to
control that data. You own that data. We're not
taking the data and telling you that you have
to go and access it elsewhere or you're not necessarily
paying for that data either to visualize it.
in the application itself. So that's one of the
things that we're addressing. Second to that,
obviously, people are trying more and more now
to have more information about what's going on
in their home when they're not there. So a lot
of people who are working on... setting up Airbnbs
or they have remote locations or vacation homes
that they're trying to monitor while they're
outside of the house or on vacation somewhere
else. We're trying to give them the ability to
control those devices remotely. So on the docket
for us is a mobile app as well. That's going
to give you visibility into your sensors and
what's happening in those locations. You know,
remote access is something that is always something
desired when you're talking about smart home
integration. So remote access to those devices
is going to be huge. And we do expect, based
on the multi -platform approach that we're taking,
that there will be a larger adoption to the mobile
application. But at the end of the day, you know,
we're focused currently on that web UI that we
have locally on the machine. And obviously, you
guys know that we've been working on it for so
long at this point. There's so many pieces that
we want to integrate. And eventually, some of
the things that, and to give you a sneak peek
or whatever, I'm sure Kelvin can show you what
the new UI in the Windows environment looks like.
It's exactly the same as what you'll see on a
pie. But you'll see that we have some sneak peek.
menu systems that will give you a heads up as
to some of the things that we're working on so
in order for you to kind of know what's going
on you'll have to check out the app but basically
our our ideal goal down the road here is to allow
for automation to happen within your your home
within your devices and allow that type of automation
and control and potentially And I don't want
to say AI at this moment because we'll address
that when we come to it. But we've got a lot
of interest in that kind of realm of things in
the conversations we're having on the dev chat.
Excellent. So what kind of data are you looking
to collect? Well, I think that it all depends.
Well, we're open to collecting all types of data.
We're not just focused on just, I know that we
get put into a box, right? We get put into a
box depending on the sensors that we integrate
first. And I don't want to be rude in saying
that we're not interested in that because that's
certainly, like all the error element data that's
coming out. And atmospherical data, it's great.
And we love that type of data. But we're also
talking about moving into soil moisture sensors.
We're also talking about weather data right now,
outside and inside. And we're talking about power.
power consumption data, water consumption data.
And these are things, honestly, you know, the
broader conversation is if we target those categories
more broadly, there's opportunity for the individuals
that are collecting that data or using that data
for themselves. to circumvent certain types of
expectations from insurance companies, being
able to prove out that your house has not had
any level of humidity over a period of time,
saving you money ultimately at the end, and also
for homeownership, you know, inspections that
are happening in your homes. Think about it.
You know, from that perspective, if we can get
into those different categories more broadly,
I'm certain that all types of data is going to
be on the table for us. And honestly, anything
that integrates to a smart home integration in
whatever your eyes that is, we're likely going
to be open to the idea of adopting it. We've
had community members post things that we found
interesting and decided, why not? Why not integrate
it? um so if that's of interest to any of the
community members that might be in the chat or
or uh come across us through this video uh drop
us a line in the discord we're very active in
our discord anytime we see things we're always
responding and uh and we love that interaction
without the community we got nothing so i apologize
if it seems like i'm asking very basic questions
but i think the most the audience here is very
new to this project itself so trying to lay the
foundational groundwork to that so let's say
someone wants to be involved in pi fi and earning
on the network or just involved with the project
overall what were the first steps for them to
be kelvin let's get him involved oh sure uh one
of the first steps would be to purchase a license
from our web page um Once you purchase a license,
right now we're working on that support for Linux
and Windows. So for Windows, it just depends
on what kind of sensors you have. Ultimately,
we support the Aware Element, the SenseEdge Mini,
the AtmoTube, which is kind of in beta right
now. And then we have the Kasa Energy Smart Plug.
Um, we have the HT 20, um, and the PM 2 .5. Um,
so, uh, a lot of those are indoor, but ultimately
we do plan on like a aftermath looted to going
into outdoor, but, uh, essentially you would
need one of those sensors. Um, and then, uh,
if you decide to send data to the network, you
would just need a GPS module, uh, because the
VK, uh, uh, And then that's it, really. I have
links for most of the sensors in the description
below, as well as the GPS modules. If you're
on the web page and you're looking for the supported
list of sensors, just check out the light paper.
And at the very bottom two pages, I believe that
we list everything that's currently supported.
Is the website currently still undergoing changes
as you guys posted in your announcements in the
Discord server? I know you were having. It's
all live now? It's live. It's live today. Oh,
cool. We're pretty happy about it. We're happy
about the new changes to it, obviously, with
the affiliate program being introduced. I think
that'll be a good success for the community and
give back, essentially. the efforts of the community
in trying to spread the word on the project like
we're not here uh and i think it's important
for us to to prefix this conversation by saying
we're not here for cash grab and we don't want
our community members necessarily to be in that
mindset there's a lot um of good things to come
in the project that aren't going to be instantaneous
so um we will we will see a number of things
coming out over the coming months that are going
to obviously attract more people to the project.
But I think once you start to see the smart home
integration portion starting to roll out into
the app, I think that's when you're going to
start to see some real world utility on the basis
of the application itself. So yeah, be patient
with us. We're working on it. Definitely looking
forward to that. So I think one of the things
that attracted a lot of attention and a lot of
people's interest was the integration with PlanetWatch
sensors. I forget which type it was that really
were no longer applicable to PlanetWatch, but
could be used with PiFi. Would you like to elaborate
on how that came about and the idea behind it?
Yeah, I think. Well, that was the first sensor
that we attempted to integrate. And I think it
was on the basis of us seeing what was going
on in that community at the time. In fact, one
of our members was heavily invested in that project.
I think he had upwards of 70 to 100 different
aware elements. that he was trying to deploy
from almost like his own business at the time.
And so we were very familiar with them at the
time, and we knew that this project was struggling.
What happened in that scenario, and Kelvin could
probably talk a little bit to this as well, but
what we identified as the problem was that they
were heavily dependent on... third -party integration
of their cloud services api so because they were
so heavily dependent on aware themselves they
they basically messed it up for themselves really
they just they found themselves in a position
where they weren't in control of the product
anymore and the product owners are basically
saying i'm sorry that's you know we're not going
to be playing nice with you guys and We're going
to turn off those devices. So you're not going
to be able to send to your data or send your
data any longer. And so they just basically pivoted
off of that product just overnight. It was fast
and it was dirty. And I think it was intentional
that way so that they didn't have to necessarily
drag it on or try to make amends. It was clear
to them that it wasn't going to be happening.
Why wouldn't we want to take a look at it at
that point if we were able to circumvent that
situation and create our own integration using
their local API? It was a pretty easy task for
us and it was an easy win just in the start to
get some exposure for the project, but also to
what we thought was. doing the right thing for
their community members and trying to provide
them with an alternative because people were
just sitting on $200 paperweights in some cases
because they thought that it wasn't going to
have any purpose or utility ever again. And that
was great. I really admire that you were able
to do that. They should have done it themselves,
if I'm being honest. And I'm not a trash talker.
I'm not going to do that. But if they were doing
what was right for their community at the time,
they should have done that. And they should have
figured out a way to do it. But here we are.
We did it. And we're more than happy that we've
done that. And we appreciate all those members
in the community that have brought their awares
over. It's great. It's helped with the growth.
I got to say, the setup, if you guys haven't
seen, I did make a video converting a SenseCap
M1 into a PiFi device. So there's a couple things
I'd like to address that. Firstly, the fact that
you can reuse. different projects devices if
they have a raspberry pi you can reuse that and
convert it into a pi fi device and it was very
easy it took me maybe 15 minutes to get it all
all said and done and then the setup on the computer
was very very straightforward so that was great
yeah i think i know what your follow -up question
will be Can you guess what it is? Because I just
lost my train of thought. Yeah, no, I think I
can because I know you've been asking in the
Discord a number of times about it. But you were
asking about the multi -mining capabilities,
right? So, yes, we are working on pushing out
an image for those individuals that are looking
to both mine their helium and then also contribute
to the PiFi project as well. We're really excited
about that because I think that there's a number
of people hurting right now in the helium community,
not really happy with some of the returns they're
getting off those devices, and they're looking
for an alternative way of using those devices.
So it's really exciting for us. But, you know,
there's been a couple of things that have changed
along the way, including the Solana change that
has kind of changed a little bit. uh of our approach
so we have had to take a couple steps back just
to make sure that we're doing it the right way
and and that we're releasing stable versions
so yeah helium has definitely had issues like
yeah and speaking of like stability and and the
our approach from that perspective i would i
think it would be good for us to hear from calvin
just on our approach on how we manage our releases,
how we're managing things from the back end,
because I don't think that the community really
gets a chance to see that on a day -to -day basis.
So I think it's important that people that are
getting into the project or interested in the
project understand our approach holistically
from the top down. And Kelvin can probably speak
to that. Yeah, so... Our number one priority
is stability. So a few changes to the software
where that stability wasn't necessarily there
in the previous version was mainly GPS. Getting
that GPS lock can be a bit difficult considering
that any small change in positioning can kind
of release that lock. So what we've done is on
the back end, we've kind of created a, I guess,
a caching mechanism, if you will, so that once
you have that lock, it'll kind of be pulled back
and set up for when you're sending data to the
network. And also another issue that was in our...
Previous release was after some time, you would
stop sending data. We've kind of really addressed
that and tried to make sure that on the software
side. You know, the uptime is reliable. We've
also really tried to focus on sending out email
notifications for anything that kind of happens
on your system. One of the updates that are coming
out in the future will be a bit, I guess, an
agent, if you will, that will help out with that
reporting. So anytime your system goes down,
you'll be notified instantly. So, I mean. In
terms of priority and handling issues that arise,
stability is number one for us. That's great.
Yeah, I have been mining the testnet tokens since
it's almost going on three months and a couple
of days here. And I haven't had a day where I
haven't gotten at least 20 notifications that
3 .1415 PiFi is deposited. I like that you guys
chose that. that amount too i thought those those
nice little uh math yeah yeah it was definitely
something we had to do um and and honestly uh
we're moving over to mainnet is go it's going
to be a challenge i think to continue to be able
to use the same distribution We've found that
there's definitely going to be a little bit of
a challenge there, although we will continue
to try and integrate that wherever we can, everywhere
we can. Speaking of testnet or speaking of the
mainnet, I'm curious to know when, if you guys
have a plan on when you're going to make that
transition, if it's going to be this year and
if so, like when? Yeah, we are definitely moving
towards it. One of the things that I was hoping
Kelvin would touch on is that we won't do anything
or push out anything or force anything for the
project if it's not going to be good for the
project in that moment in time. If we're not
confident that what we're about to release is
100%. there and and acceptable to us and we've
gone through a vetting process of the of the
software and along with that the tokenomics model
is so important um so we've been working on that
non -stop i'll be honest in the background you
guys don't even know what's been going on but
we just saw uh an example of something that we're
going to be utilizing at our main net release
that is going to ensure a very confident release
on the tokenomics model for us to sustain the
project. And I think the sustainability model,
it needs to be in place first before we can tell
you that maintenance is coming. But what I can
tell you is that we have put it on our roadmap
for this year. And we haven't not met a goal
yet that we've set in front of us. So that's
the plan. Yeah, I noticed with PyFi in particular,
comparing it to other projects, you guys are
very articulate. Is this the right word? You're
making sure everything is working and then you're
releasing it and you're not stepping too far
out ahead of you. You guys know where to set
the marker and where to where to stop. And I
really appreciate that. And I'm sure a lot of
people in the crypto space will people watching
this now and in the future that you guys aren't
just trying to. push something out because the
community wanted it by friday you're making sure
if it's actually ready by friday it's going to
go out on friday yeah we're not in a rush to
mainnet we just witnessed something pretty pretty
horrible with some other aware element users
um just recently and we watched it start we watched
it to where it's at now. And we're so confident
that we're like, we just cannot, we cannot let
our community down like that. So we're so confident
that our approach is working. It's working right.
And we appreciate the patience from the community.
I think it's really important to be engaged with
them and, and, and have all that feedback, but
we'll never put the project at risk for the sake
of. pushing timelines forward that's just not
how we function and all decisions that are made
are made from a roundtable perspective all the
members um and and founding members we feed off
each other's uh responses but we also make those
decisions as a collective there's no one individual
that vetoes everybody else in this project and
i think that that's been a huge part of what's
had a lot of success on the back end and why
this project's still going to this day is that
we're not only working together, but we're also
all friends and we just hang out and get to know
each other really well. There's always room for
arguments, but for the most part, we do a good
job of separating that and our decision -making
process. We're pretty proud of that, that we
can do that without a whole bunch of rifts between
members. Really, really good. Yeah, it's more
of a build it and they will come kind of project,
which is nice. That sounds like juice. That sounds
exactly like it. Flux talks about that a lot
too. It's just like work on building a solid
foundation and the rest will take care of itself.
I would agree. I'm curious to know what your
guys' roles are in PyFi. Because I know you said
you work in IT for pretty much your whole career.
What is your role in PyFi and Kelvin's and the
other people that were unable to make it here
tonight? Like, how do you guys all coordinate
everything? I personally deal with security,
the networking and system infrastructure for
the most part. But I do wear a lot of different
hats. I will get into the nitty gritty with troubleshooting
and support. And I think we all wear a lot of
different hats. My primary role when I was brought
on was bringing in that infrastructure. So all
of our private cloud infrastructure. How many
people are there in the PiFi team right now?
There are five founders and there are... Kelvin,
help me out, man. Let's see. There's about eight
of us. I mean, especially... Over the new year,
we've kind of grown a little bit in terms of
adding new members and new resources to the team
to kind of help facilitate things. I take care
of the development aspect. And like Aftermath
has said, I wear different hats. I'm on the business
end speaking the tokenomics aspect while working
on the development documentation. But, you know,
my primary responsibilities are development.
Awesome. Yeah, I know Rob is a part of the project
as well. Rob's been a great addition, man. We
all love Rob. I see him everywhere. Yeah, that's
the thing about him. He's everywhere. And that's,
you know, we brought him on and he just out of
the gate just was making all the difference in
terms of the exposure to the project. He's been
a catalyst for us in talking with any of the
content creators that we're discussing with.
He's got great ideas for the project. He's been
a great asset for us. And yeah, I can't say enough
good things about him. So he's more the social
side and kind of marketing is what it seems.
Yeah, he would be essentially your marketing
sales director, essentially, for the organization.
He has been doing a lot of work related to the
affiliate side of things on that rollout. And
then, in addition, a lot of the documentation
you guys see, including even the light paper,
he had a big part in that as well. uh putting
that together he's he's just been a really good
contributor to the project yeah um grumble grumble
yeah he's grumble has been uh an important part
well he's been around uh almost as long as as
all of us uh founders uh he was one of the last
ones to come on though um but his His role is
more on the business side of it. And more specifically,
when we were looking at the legal ramifications
for things, he was out there getting us in front
of lawyers and getting us talking with the right
people and the right resources. As an entrepreneur
himself, he's definitely been very helpful in
some of the directive. portions for the business
you know where we should be taking it and where
we should be careful and tread lightly here or
there it's been uh it's been a good relationship
awesome um and then juice doesn't really do anything
nice he just kind of hangs around and just stirs
up stuff in the discord right no juice has been
an integral part of of the whole entire organization
and just for me he's the guy that ended up putting
everybody together ultimately it was his idea
and you know he's a very smart very intelligent
person he's uh without a doubt one of the most
articulate people on our on our staff and we
appreciate him and his input on everything as
well and he's just been so uh integral to to
where we're at now and and a big component of
it and and honestly he's the one that that has
kind of put together the structure of how we
do business, um, internally and externally. And
I think he's, he's been so good to us in that,
in that regard. It's been, it's been great working
with him all these, all these months, years,
well, year, year, three months. Yeah, exactly.
I saw some other questions too, like, uh, alluding
to, uh, some, Some other members that are no
longer with the project, we definitely have come
out way stronger since those times. And to be
honest, the development couldn't have gone any
better over this past six months. And kudos to
Kelvin. He's been so good to us. It seems like
you guys really hit the gas the past couple of
months here. We did. Well, we basically tore
it down. We tore it down. Basically, the version
that everybody's running right now is going to
be a legacy version. Eventually, we're probably
going to move away from that version for a few
reasons. And actually, Kelvin, you should probably
speak to that new feature that we've just introduced
into the new version and why we're moving away
from the old version. Yeah, so there's a few
different changes with the new version. The old
version kind of relied on you, I guess, in a
way running a separate application, Grafana,
to kind of visualize the data. With this new
version, we actually have, I guess, the native
embedded graphs. So there's no extra logging
in that you need to do. There's a bunch of different
changes. The old version, I mean, the old version
isn't really as stable. We've fixed some things
with the auto updater that, I guess, allows for
more consistent and clean updates. Like I said
earlier, you can kind of dockerize and containerize
this, so you can pretty much run it anywhere,
essentially. So with this new version that you
guys are planning on to release or has it already
been? It's released now. So that's what we've
been ramping up for this past week was this release.
And to be honest, we didn't make a whole bunch
of hype about it. I think because we wanted to
make sure that if there were any bugs that were
found early on here, that we had an opportunity
to address those. As far as I understand, Calvin,
there's not been too many bugs or hiccups. It's
just been a couple of questions here and there
that we've been seeing from the community. But
yeah, it's released and we're pretty excited
about it. I'm still getting the PiFi received,
so I guess it's working. That's good. I have
just notifications. Galore. It's nice. I miss
that. I used to get notifications for other projects,
and it's a good feeling to know that no matter
what, there's some constant in my life. Yeah,
no doubt. Guaranteed some Pi -Fi. Yeah. I also
saw another question in the chat there that I
was going to answer. There was a question about
what differentiates us from other data collection
projects. I think it's, I mean, if you look hard
enough, it's pretty self -explanatory. But what
our goal is, is to gather more than just one
type of data. A lot of these data collection
companies are choosing one sensor. or one type
of data, and they're putting themselves in that
box. Let's throw PlanetWatch out there as an
example. They're getting air quality data, indoor
air quality data, and they're not expanding their
reach in terms of the data sets that they're
getting. What also sets us apart is we're very,
very serious about the integrity of the data.
So the reason that we put the GPS on there is
so that we can avoid some type of spoofing that's
going to happen if you If you wanted to go to
AWS today and stand up a server and connect your
aware element, you can do that, but you can't
send it to our network unless you got a GPS dongle
attached to your device. So if you want to play
the system and that, we've taken a lot of steps
on the backend to ensure that the integrity of
the data is very real and that geolocation of
that data is reported on the H3Hex system that
we have on our Explorer. And all of that, to
say, I don't think that other companies that
focus in one specific category are at any disadvantage.
In fact, in some cases that can be an advantage.
We've made it harder on ourselves to spread our
selection of sensors to integrate onto our system.
And it's made it harder for us, but we believe
that that's the right thing to do because I think...
If we're going to do the smart home integration
eventually, and that's another piece to it, I
don't see them doing anything to that degree
or any type of automation with the sensors that
are being integrated onto the platform. Those
are the things that set us apart today and I
think will continue to reward us in the long
term. That's awesome. Looking forward. So we're
in March, 2023. Do you guys have, I know the
windows release is live today. Am I correct?
Okay. It is. I'm excited to check that out. I'm
definitely gonna be making a video on Calvin
can probably show a little example if you guys
want. Sure. Yeah. Oh, okay. He's not prepared.
No, I'm not prepared today. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
I was just going to say what we could end up
doing is anybody that is interested, you guys
can join their Discord server and you guys could
maybe show a preview there or something like
that. And as well, I will be making a video on
the Windows version. So you guys will be able
to check that out. Awesome. Yeah, that'll be
great. Your videos are awesome. They're always
very detailed, high quality. Really appreciate
those. Those are great. Thank you. It's nice
to hear that. Yeah. Nobody needs to hear it.
Looking forward for the rest of 2023, and I guess
beyond, but in the near future, let's just go
with 2023. What are some other major things that
you guys could share that you might bring on
to the project or that you're looking to bring
on or that is like a guaranteed, but you still
got to work on it? I think you're probably going
to see a lot more effort put in. Once we know
that this release is stable, you'll probably
see a lot more effort put into the mobile side
of the application. And I don't want to reveal
too much related to what's going to be on that
mobile application. But Calvin's already shown
me a few little things and I'm super excited
about it. Yeah, keep an eye out for some updates
on that, for sure. Awesome. Yeah, it would be
nice to have a PiFi logo on my home screen. Yeah,
yeah. Well, I can get you one right away. So
as far as the application, I know you guys don't
really want to get into it too much, but are
you planning on launching on iOS versus Android
first, or are you going to launch them at the
same time? Because I know it can be tricky. Kelvin?
It can be tricky. We plan to try to release both
of them at the same time. We're still a bit early
into our mobile app development. But the plan
is to try to release both of them at the same
time. Awesome. Yeah, that'll be the plan. It's
weird in the crypto space because most of the
people that are doing this kind of DIY mining
are on Android. But traditionally, everyone is
more of an iOS thing. So that's why I wanted
to ask that because I've been on both of them
for a long time. And pretty much the only reason
why I go to iOS over Android is it's just easier
for me, for the people that want to talk to me.
That's funny. I was just talking about this today.
The ecosystem, once you're in it. you're stuck
in it, you know? Yeah. Once you choose a phone
anyways. Yeah. I mean, air tags and my power
beats, like it just all works so well together.
Yeah. And FaceTime is nice. That's nice too.
Yeah. So I guess if you guys have anything else
you want to say, no, I think we just really appreciate
you guys even having us on. From an Ask Me Anything
perspective, I would love to know if there's
burning questions out there as well. We're always
engaged in Discord, so don't hesitate to chime
in or tag us out there. But we are super excited
for this upcoming year. We know that the community
has been fantastic to us. And we would love to
just do even more Hangouts like this with you
guys. just even talk about other subjects. I
mean, it's nice to talk about yourself, but you
know, sometimes it's fun to talk about other
projects that are out there too. Yeah. And you
do frequent, I guess, live events in the discord
pretty often. I've seen. Yeah. We try to keep
it active, right. We'll run events and a nice
thing with discord right now is that they'd have
that new event management. uh little integration
now yeah so you can actually run events or schedule
events and people can see what's upcoming as
well we don't have anything scheduled i don't
think right now but uh we without a doubt are
looking forward to this upcoming year because
we like running competitions we like running
uh giveaways we do a lot of those so keep an
eye out for those too but uh we're without a
doubt uh looking forward to this upcoming year
it's gonna be so good What would these giveaways
entail? Would they be licenses, sensors? We've
given away full packages with a license, a Pi,
a sensor, all the cabling to go along with it.
We've done another one where we gave away a sensor,
an aware element. We've also done another one
for an activation contest because we knew, that
people were holding onto their licenses for a
while. I don't know why people were doing it,
but people were holding onto their licenses.
Maybe they thought they were going to be able
to turn around and sell them real quick or something.
Who knows? But they were just not activating.
So we were like, well, we'd love to see all these
people on the network. So we ran an activation
competition where we gave away, again, another
full Pi setup. And so with the new Windows version
coming out, I'm sure you'll see something pretty
soon that'll be more geared towards the Windows
setup. I think you'll see stuff like that. Oh,
and I forgot to mention, we also have a part
of our team. His name's Ryan and he's, he does
all our graphic, sorry, not all our graphics.
He does all of our 3d printing designs. So for
those of you that are interested in trying to
get a hold of something for those BME 680 sensors
or for the CP 2221 adapter, just. ping t porter
in our uh in our discord and uh he he should
be able to uh coordinate something for you because
he's got these really cool little uh cases for
those devices now so i'm glad you brought that
up because um that was actually going to be one
of my next questions was for 3d printing do you
guys have um like you just mentioned these sensor
cases are they going to be on the website or
is that just going to be a different thing as
well as do you plan on making some raspberry
pi cases i know there's tons of them out there
but do you guys have any like custom ideas we
had some early on um ideas of pi cases i think
that's a great idea uh i think we'll definitely
want to post some of these on the website it
was originally i think the issue that we were
going to have was logistics on how many are we
going to get ordered and are we going to be able
to you know get them out in time and or is it
going to be just something that we can't do with
excellence and that's always something we consider
but uh as soon as as soon as we have well here's
the thing he he just uh managed to get another
printer but this one's like a nice resin printer
so it's a lot faster for him to churn things
out so i think that you'll start to see us put
some more products on the web page itself and
links to those pieces of hardware. And yeah,
that's a great idea, the Pi case. We had a few
concept designs for the Pi case that we actually
released and just gave, I think we just gave
away the design for people that had 3D printers.
So if you want those, he might even still have
them. Go ahead. I have a 3D printer. Maybe I'll
try printing them. Yeah. It would be good. I'm
trying to see if there's any other questions.
Some of these we have already answered, but Trillion
Capital asks about a possible refresher on tokenomics.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you guys plan on
changing the tokenomics for the mainnet. So right
now it's kind of just... We are going to do that.
The way the tokenomics are planning to be rolled
out and the specific numbers, I can't tell you
right now, but I can tell you guys from a high
level view of what we've discussed internally
and what our plan is. This could change before
mainnet, but I just want to be clear about that.
So the ideal situation for us in the tokenomics
model, and that's a great question, is that the
categories that we're putting out there for you
to be able to. have different sensors in. For
example, you know, we have indoor, outdoor, energy,
water sensors. Each one of those will be formulated
into a category essentially. And I don't want
to get too, I don't want to lose anybody, but
each category is going to be worth, let's say
one point. Okay. So you'll have three points.
Three different categories is our plan initially
on mainnet. Each of those categories will have
a list of sensors under those categories. In
order for us to incentivize people to diversify
the datasets that they're going to be contributing
to the network, what we're doing is we're breaking
it out as a percentage of that one total for
each of the sensors in those categories. build
out more sensors and add more sensors, those
percentages are going to scale and change a little
bit as time progresses. So the incentive is there
for you to earn the max amount of rewards in
those categories to equate to the one or the
total of one. And each of those will total three
as a perfect score. We'll see if we can make
it happen. That will be tough. That's a lot of
fractions. That is a lot of fractions. We want
to try and make it easy enough for people to
understand it, but also try to find a way to
incentivize people to continue to add different
types of sensors to their PiFi network device.
Absolutely. I think it'll be helpful. Yeah, I
mean, I have a BME and an aware element, but
as soon as you guys add something for water,
I mean, I'm in. Yeah, I think it'll be great.
And when we get that smart home integration,
that's the piece that's going to tie it all together
for everybody. And so, yeah, we're really excited
about what the future has in that regard. And
the tokenomics model is built to incentivize
people's contributions. So then that's what it's
all about. We're all trying to contribute to
this project. Awesome. Awesome. Joe, do you have
anything else you, any other questions or a question?
I do not. I appreciate you being here. Yeah.
Thank you guys a lot for coming out. And if you
guys, like I said, if you guys are interested
in any of their information, it should be in
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of the iceberg because then once you go onto
their websites or the discord server, there's
a lot more information. I did make a video. converting
a sense cap like i said earlier into a pi fi
as well as um just like an overview of the pi
fi and there's definitely gonna be more videos
on my channel in the future about pi fi so stick
around for those but do you guys have anything
else you want to say about pi fi like no thank
you for putting this together chris and we're
just so happy to be here and and be able to tell
our story and our direction and and the goal
of the project you know Yeah. I'm looking forward
to seeing what's happening in the future. It's
kind of the bear market right now. So there's
not a lot going on activity wise, but projects
that are building themselves right now are setting
up a really good foundation for when bull market
comes back. Yeah. We've been talking about that.
You know, the timing might, might be really good
for us in this year. So yeah, that's awesome.
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