Hey there, pants people! We've been doing a lot
of talking lately about the upcoming Vermont
Gaming and Anime Expo. You know, wanting to inform.
But, uh, we're idiots. Old Steven here, hey Steven,
doesn't even know what month it is. I'm sorry,
Steven. So rather than us telling you about the
Expo, we figured you should hear it all from
the mind behind the magic. So let me introduce
you all to Avon. Avon, how you doing? Hey guys!
I am fantastic and even better now to be here
with both of you and everybody listening. How's
everyone? We're really excited about what's coming
up. Yes, yes. We are definitely thrilled as well.
And just a little bit about myself, because people
are probably wondering, you know, who is this
person and why is she here? I moved to Vermont
about five years ago. I just haven't personally
seen a lot of events in this area that represent
the video game community. There are a couple
of smaller anime events, but also I haven't been
to anything that had a certain type of magic
to it. And we really are hoping to bring that
to Burlington, Vermont. Hell yeah. I know that
the community would also appreciate if we were
able to get the attention of some larger companies.
Like if we had representation from Crunchyroll
or some other big video game developers, it would
be so exciting. And I know that everybody that
lives in this general area would just be thrilled
if we got some representation. And that's very,
very important to us to be able to put on an
event where we do get some representation here
in Vermont and New Hampshire areas. Even bringing
big nerd vibes to Burlington. Yes, yes, yes.
So thankfully, we already have some cool stuff
coming, but I won't get into those details until
the next episode. But big things are coming for
sure. Awesome. Where can people find out more
about the Vermont Anime and Gaming Expo? There's
a few different places, actually. If you Google
Vermont Anime and Gaming Expo, we should come
up. But the website is vermontanimeandgamingexpo
.com. Our Instagram is shortened. It's just vermont__anime__expo.
And same thing on Facebook. If you look up Vermont
Anime and Gaming Expo, then you'll find information
on Facebook. So depending on what you prefer.
But yeah, tons of information out there. You
can get tickets through Eventbrite. Super simple.
And we also have extra tickets. You can get to
the maid cafe if you want to be entertained and
get a Japanese lunch. Whoa. All right. This sounds
amazing. That's got to be a first for Vermont,
right? Yeah, seriously. Yes, it sounds like you
can find a bunch of information online, but if
you don't want to go online and check it out,
then we'll bring it back to you here next week
with some exciting info, huh? You can put your...
You can stop zipping your fly. Yeah, stop zipping
your fly. Put that thing away. Get back in there.
Keep it in the pants, the fantasy pants. Gentlemen!
Fantasy pants! Everybody listening, welcome all
to Fantasy Pants Unzipped, the sixth one, I don't
know. I don't know. A lot, a lot. A lot of them,
because we had a lot of arcs and a lot of crazy
shit happening in this here, that there show.
Welcome to also, I believe, our third anniversary.
Hold on, hold on. What? Are you going to stop
me from saying anniversary? Yes, where's my tavern
music? Oh, shit. Fine. Good point. It's not me.
The fader's up. No, hang on. There we go. Another
round for it is our anniversary, baby! Yeah!
Three years of Fantasy Pants. Holy shit. So much
shit has happened. We're moving up towards the
end game of our show at this point. Well, we
have a fourth year. Probably, yeah. But probably
not a fifth. Probably not a fifth. The way things
are moving. Of the Radiant Citadel campaign.
No, I'm killing both of you when this is over.
Lighting in a bottle, no one else gets you. But
boom. No, this is so exciting. And I just want
to say, bottom of our hearts, thank you all for
spending the last few years in our pants. You
already agreed. Yeah, I know. You signed off.
You signed off on it. Honestly, no notes. Legally
binding. Yeah. What's the catchphrase? What's
the tag? Fantasy pants. Thanks for being in our
pants. We'll work on it. We'll work on it. I
just finished up Labor Day weekend in the culinary
world, so I'm going to get a little drunk. Cards
on the table. Full warning. Steven. No, wait.
One more thing. One more thing. We're going to
talk about an episode. When this comes out. No,
wait. You're right. Because the next week after
when this comes out will be Jeremy Wolf's 40th
birthday. Oh, yeah. That's cool, though. Yeah,
that's coming up. It's either happening now or
the week after now. So if you're out there in
this world, wish Jeremy Wolf a happy 40th. I
think it's like the week and like six days after
this comes out. Which, again, you know, podcast
is limited. This comes out, what, on the 8th?
I think 7th? Oh, man. I'm not prepared to make
that kind of judgment. 8th. 8th. You heard it
here, folks. You heard it here. 8th. This comes
out on the 8th. It's a mental man. Oh, yeah,
my birthday. So, yeah, about six days after that.
Not a week, it's six days. Sorry. The 14th. 14th.
40th birthday, guys. This is probably Jeremy's
last fancy pants anniversary. I'm sorry to say.
Sucks for you guys. We got some young blood out
there. Gotta be at least seven feet tall. Yeah.
I'm leaving all my studio equipment to the dogs.
Oh, man. That'll be a tall bottle of glue to
make out of him. I was taking a sip of whiskey.
Well, it's not. Actually, for our anniversary
or for your birthday. It just so happens there
is a present here. We'll get to it. We'll get
to that. Yeah, that'll be a little later. For
Mr. Jeremy Wolf. It is so exciting. It's pretty
cool. Yeah. Holy shit. We'll get there. We'll
get there. Steven, shut up. We'll get there.
Now go on. Are you already drunk? How many sips
have you had? I'm just so happy, though. Summer's
over, baby. It's September. Taurus season's over.
Speaking of being drunk, I have a quick share.
Quick story to share from our old buddy, Captain.
Oh, shit. I was talking with Captain the other
day, and we were just catching up and whatnot,
and he was like, yeah, I was at some party with
some young bucks, whatever, some 20 -somethings,
and he was like, they were talking and wanted
to... they wanted to drink and captain was like
well yeah i'll drink you know what i mean you
can't keep up with me but i'll drink and so he
starts to tell me about all the drinking they're
doing um and he's like yeah first i drank a um
a six pack of some domestic um beer and i was
like oh yeah you know it's that's not nothing
you know what i mean that's that's a lot of and
then he goes yeah and then i had 10 or 12 shots
jesus christ Holy shit. So he drinks these kids
under the table, I guess. Wakes up the next morning.
And I think, I don't know. I think these kids
got the last laugh. Because he woke up and is
now the proud owner of two kittens and a cat.
And a cat tree. What? I guess. How did that even?
I don't know. And neither does he. Well, congratulations,
cat self. That's amazing. He thought that you
specifically, Dave, would enjoy that story. The
captain is just a D &D character in real life.
And it's so good. Oh, congrats, man. That's amazing.
He's now a member of the Handful of Cats Club.
Hell yeah. Hey. Yeah. Glad to have you. Yep.
So aside from that, seems like he's doing well.
Hell yeah. Now I know to never go drinking with
a captain because he'll pass them on. It's the
way. It's the ritual. Oh, yeah. It's like. It's
like a ring style. You get a VHS, you watch it,
and then you wake up with three more cats. Oh,
God. That is a true horror flick. All right.
Speaking of stuff you can drink, you know that
two -thirds of us around here are coffee fans.
And so I have some cool, fun, interesting, exciting
news. Oh, I bet. We have our first affiliate.
Affiliation? Affiliatron. I like that. I like
that one. Affiliatron. Nailed it. So our friends
at Treasure Grounds are making some wonderful
coffee. I have a bag here that they sent us.
Mail time, baby. Wait, wait, wait. Shut up. Shut
your mouth. Firehouse! It's been a while. It's
been a while. It's been a while. Send us more
mail. A couple of... Oh, my goodness. What was
that? Let's just drop stuff all over the place.
David. I'm so mad about the mail. David. Go ahead.
Coffee. A couple of exciting things about the
Treasure Grounds coffee is, one, it's... small
local roasted sort of thing um i i grabbed i
asked for this one because it's a micro lot which
is a word that i learned like just a couple of
weeks ago it basically means that like the roaster
selects not just a specific farm but a specific
like part of the field where these beans come
from. It usually means that the roaster has a
really good relationship and a really good idea
of like the terroir of the region and the farm.
So, you know, it's really like interesting and
well -selected sort of beans even. And fun, special
thing, every one of these bags. Comes with a
D20 inside. Oh, that's actually cool. Nice. That's
actually pretty cool. We've been following Paradox
Dice on Instagram for a while. They are a husband
-wife team. Oh, give me that dice. So Paradox
Dice has been making dice for a while. Nice.
And now they're starting Treasure Grounds Coffee,
putting dice in it. And later this fall, they're
going to start to partner with maybe some of
your other favorite... You know, small batch
dice creators. Nice. That you can find on Instagram.
Nice. And put their die in coffee bags. And let's
make it even more exciting. David. He's just
tearing into it. I can't open it with my teeth
or anything. I'm afraid of watching this. I think
you're going to hurt yourself. Give me a murder
knife. No. I've got a pen. That's all I've got
for you. All right. So let's make it even more
exciting. When you use the code FANTASYPANTS
at checkout, you get 10 % off. Nice. That's FANTASYPANTS
at checkout. FANTASYPANTS at checkout. Hell yeah.
And if you care to make it even better, if or
when you buy Treasure Grounds coffee, either
with our link or with that coupon code, your
boys get a little kickback. What? Your boys get
a little of that coffee cash. All right. So it's
like... It's a win, win, win, win, win. You get
great coffee. You get a handmade D20. You support
a small business. And you throw a couple pennies
our way. You know what I mean? Support a small
podcast. Yeah, support a small podcast. Now roll
that die. I roll a die. And let's get this unzipped
roll. Gorgeous turquoise die here. First roll.
A nat 19. Nice. Not bad. Holy shit. Hell yeah.
So just a tiny bit more shilling is I want to
mention the Vermont Anime and Gaming Expo, October
5th in Burlington, Vermont. When or if you go
to the Vermont Gaming Expo, you go in, you check
in, you get your badge, blah, blah, blah. You
take a look at the badge. You do a double take.
You take a closer look at that badge. You're
like, what's going on there? Guess what's on
that badge? What? It's the Fantasy Pants logo.
You want to know why? Because we're going to
be a sponsor of the Vermont Anime and Gaming
Expo. Hell yeah. In October. Hell yeah. So. You
want to talk about supporting your boys? Get
your free Fancy Badge merch. Yeah. Kind of, sort
of, right? It's kind of, yeah, it counts. You
get your badge. It's a collectible. You can call
it merch. It's a collectible. And come meet me
and Steven and Jeremy there. You help me, you
know? I'm very busy that weekend. Are you cosplaying
with me? Who's cosplaying with me? I'm playing,
I'm going as Yangus in Dragon Quest VIII and
I need... I'll go as Pikachu. All right, I at
least need Pikachu face paint out of you. The
little red cheeks. You heard it here, folks.
It is a binding contractual promise. Jeremy Wolf
will be Pikachu. Speaking of Mr. Jeremy Wolf.
Mr. Jeremy Wolf, I love those segues. Lots of
exciting tech news going on in the back room
of the Fantasy Pants editing suite. Yeah. You
want to tell us about what you got cooking? I
just upgraded my shit. Yeah. I went to the dark
side. I got a Mac. Gross. I know. I know. But
for anybody who is an audiophile, is that the
term? That's the right term. Yeah, that's the
one. Audiotron. I'm now diving headfirst into
learning Logic Pro. It's a lot, but it's so fucking
awesome. Damn. I love it. I love it. I think
you said earlier that this is probably the first
episode you're going to edit on the new digs.
Thanks for the pressure, man. I bet it sounds
like shit. I've seen, I've heard a little bit
of your, you know, the updated quality of this
thing, and it's actually pretty damn incredible.
Well, no, I mean, that's not, that doesn't come
from the... Oh, really? From the software, yeah.
Software is software. That just comes from getting
smarter. That just comes from learning and growing.
It's all magic to me, man. I have no idea what's
going on over there. Yeah, so the pants people
know what the hell David's talking about. I've
decided to go back and start remixing all the
old songs with what I know now and what I have
learned since writing those songs. It's night
and fucking day. Yeah, the little bit that we
heard so far, excellent. Yeah. Excellent. Soul,
baby. As if you thought it couldn't get any better.
So keep an eye out for those. So while the software
upgrade is great and it's wonderful, that has
a lot more to do with workflow and that kind
of stuff than the actual quality. Gotcha, gotcha,
gotcha. It's what you do with it that makes the
quality. That's what she said. No one was taking
it. I had to. No, it was just dead silent. Everyone
thought about it. No one went for it. Love a
good hardware joke. But that efficient workflow
gives you more time to do more stuff, right?
Yeah. In theory, yeah. Yeah. Like some editing
stuff, maybe? Maybe. What are you getting at,
Steven? I'm just fucking with you. Yeah, no.
I am working on opening up my editing services
and my audio services. So if any pants people
out there looking to start a podcast, or you
know anybody that's looking to start a podcast,
or maybe they want some music mixed up, let me
know. Let me know. I'm going to get a website
going, get some official shit happening, so you'll
probably see that on our socials. Do you have
a name yet for your solo org? You've got to be
a wolf pun. I do, but I'm not going to reveal
that here. It's not a wolf pun, but I did hear
it. Can you whisper it in my ear over in the
corner? I'll show you my logo. Your logo? Pause.
Pause this fucking shit. Sexy. Sexy logo. Yeah.
I like it a lot. Mwah. Give it a kiss. Taking
that logo out after. Logo, you look nice. So
stupid. So stupid. Anyways. Anyways. Yeah. It's
going to be out there eventually. You're going
to see that logo and you're going to say, hey,
I want to do some mixing. I don't know what you
do. But I mean, hey. Before the website's up,
before the corporation or LLC is all, you know,
pushing paper and stuff like that, if you want
to get in on the ground floor, get some early
access editing done, hit up my man. Yeah. Send
us an email at fannyspantspodcast at gmail .com.
That's the one. Or a lot of you have me on social,
so hit me up. You know where to find me. You
can find us. Or find us on the Discord. Oh. No,
come on. No. Here. And the sacred unzipped. Come
on, man. That's where we do all our businesses,
on the Discord. It's true. All right. It's true.
It's fair. Speaking of business. Oh, shit. He's
got another segue for us. You want to get down
to it? To business? Whoa. You want to get down
to business? You're running the show. You're
the GM now. It's business time. Get the segue
thing going. Business. I want to talk about this
last arc. Oh, yes, the last arc. Yes, yes, yes,
yes, yes. Yeah, like why you decided to delete
all of the battles and how it was supposed to
really go in the book and what you changed. This
is really fun. This is really fun because let
me just tell you what happens in the book and
then we'll kind of get into it. So in the book,
basically what will happen is you'll probably
hear rumors of some strange happenings, mysterious
deaths happening in the world of Holory and the
city of Yanito. Or actually, there's no real
world in the book, but you know what I mean.
It's the... Holleray is kind of the region. Union
is the city. So you go to that area through the
Citadel. And as you're approaching, you happen
to notice that a bunch of fog is covering over
the city. And you go back and it kind of disappears
very quickly. And you see people are just kind
of acting sort of strange. But, like, there are
dead bodies around. No one seems to be acknowledging,
like, what just happened. Just lying around?
People have just died. So the idea is this. When
you're over there, people are kind of... everyone
except for you is forgetting in the book you
don't forget when the mist comes you see the
deaths happen you see things happening but everyone
else seems to kind of like forget about it because
a curse doesn't affect outside people only affect
people from the city i thought that was cool
and all but i really want to change it because
i think it's fun to have the whole like why is
the whole world being super weird about this
situation but i think it's more fun to be like
what just happened you found the only thing that
could be more frustrating yes exactly yeah uh
you know take it to the next level crank it up
baby uh but yes so so so you're going through
and basically in the book it's kind of funny
because you're investigating all these things
and you find out that eventually as you're investigating
people you find a baduk hall and you meet some
old men pin baduk and you have to help them do
their game uh they are not young he young he
comes up later in the arc but is an important
character because he was just like in this the
kind of main sort of a conspirator behind the
erasure of an important person named daewon ha
who was a magistrate that did a lot of important
things for the city but those things were essentially
like erased all these years ago and given over
to the queen in this case it wasn't queen jimmy
it was queen jimmy's mother the former queen
but i mixed things up because i wanted the whole
nine years ago plot basically no sholey in the
book no nine years ago no arathlon uh daewon
ha was actually the main villain. The Gwishin
was Daewon Ha. I just want to take the book's
mystery and essentially create it again, but
just add another layer to it. That's sweet. Yeah,
and then I had Young Gi do the whole Bodak thing
because I like the idea of the characters, but
with, you know, all these new characters to show,
like, getting a lot of exploration, all the past
star, Hyronix, you know, I wanted to kind of...
consolidate some of the characters in the arc
a bit so sometimes i miss that like really simple
part of dnd where something like a bada game
can be like a quest of its own yeah yeah i mean
yeah yeah it's like yeah oh help these two old
guys and their bada game it's like i don't know
man like people just died i think we have something
a little more important to take care of than
this bada game But yeah, no, it's a solid arc.
It's one of my favorites when I first read the
book. I like the concept of, and immediately
when I read it, I had the idea of what if they
lose memories too? Because that's so fun and
freaky that this, you know, this supernatural
entity that's super powerful is causing mass
memory wipes throughout the city. And then I
realized how much, honestly, I didn't plan on
it. I just realized how well that connected to
everything going on with Arathelon. because way
back at the start of this campaign, I think we
just didn't really plan in enough about your
father as Zebulon. And so when I kind of finally
realized I want to do something with your father,
it hit me that I'd already missed too many opportunities
to talk about him or hint at him. And so it was
like, well, this guy, it's weird if this guy
even exists, right? And then it hit me like,
wait. What if, wink, wink, he does not? Essentially
doesn't. Yes. And that's kind of what slowly
created the idea of the erased person, which
I liked because it hinted at the idea that the
Crystal Network can do a lot more than bridging
worlds, which is a huge plot point going forward.
And you get to get rid of our strongest ally.
That's true. Huge for you. Great for me. Awesome.
Awesome for me. Because things are, if you didn't
catch from that last episode, folks, about to
get even darker in this show, as always. I always
had in my mind that after the halfway point,
which to me was the episode 100, the battle with
Ozen, all the stuff with the Shrine of Storms,
after that point, things are going to take a
very dark turn in the narrative, and we're going
to continue that turn until perhaps our beacons
of light, wink, wink, here, can fix this. That
is us. Oh, my God. It's callback. It's a callback.
That's our role. Yeah. You're saying lots of
stuff like halfway point, next year, blah, blah,
blah. Did you say earlier? I don't remember if
you said it tonight or if it was just a conversation.
You said that we have like maybe three major
arcs left. Three. Yeah, essentially three. One
might even argue two major arcs left because
you'll find it. You want to give us any? Any
behind the scenes? Any little teasers? Teasers?
Oh. It's okay if you don't. I'm going to do something
very complex for our next arc. All right. It's
going to be a lot of fun, I think. Okay. This
is going to be a lot of fun, I think. Every arc,
I go for something even more ambitious than the
last, and I think I'm going to go for my most
ambitious arc yet, and I'll put you guys through
it in a very fun way. I got some maps. A very
gorgeous, incredible map already made up by SoundPukyGirls.
Hell yeah. Shout out. Shout out. I'm very, very
excited for what's coming up next, but let's
just say the deck is stacked against you. Well,
that's nothing new. You have so little you can
do to turn the tide of what's happened now. And
we're going to get into that next episode. It's
about to go completely wild. But maybe there
are a couple of tools you can yet obtain. So
glad to get together with my friends and find
some escapism and feel totally powerless. You
don't love just like really nihilistic politics
in your D &D? Is it not your jam? I'm glad that
everyone loves that. They're listening to it.
You know what's going to give me a new sense
of power though? Don't fucking do it. What? What's
in our next Mail Time submission? Mail Time!
I think we have dawdled on. Long enough. We're
doing this now? I think it's time to get into
that box sitting right there. Let me get the
murder knife. Get the murder knife. Get Abby.
Abby! Abby! I don't know what's happening. She
just said she wanted to see. Okay. This is going
to be cool. Okay. This is incredible. Oh, we
got all the dogs, too. Do you want to be there
for the box opening? Yeah. Bring the dogs in.
Dogs, check out this box. Oh, my God. Everyone's
in the room. Everyone's in the room. Jeremy?
What? Take it away. Okay, I'm going to walk over.
I don't have my headphones on, so. Steve? Oh.
It's true. I don't know how you're going to,
like, open this thing. Yeah, you can open it
in front of your microphone. It's a big box,
by the way. It's a tall box. Very tall box. It's
a tall box for a tall boy. I am a tall boy. No,
you know what? I'm almost 40. I'm a tall man.
He's almost earned the man title, yeah. It's
good. Oh, man. I'm so excited. We'll say this
box that come with a letter for Jeremy. He already
read it More private affair, but it is do we
say who is this from yet? We say oh, yeah? We
forge you know him you love him. He's the guy.
He's the goat He's the mean ghost oh He's woe
and whoa I'm low in He's damning. Look at that
thing. What? That is dangerous. Holy shit. That
is a war pick. That is a full war pick a la Dresden
Kellig. Look at that handle with the resin. The
resin in the cracks and stuff. It's so cool.
The purple resin. Oh my gosh. It looks so magical.
What the fuck? You want to swing it at something?
No. You got any old TVs or... Want to step out
back? Swing it or something? Yeah, let's take
it outside. Let's take it outside! Alright, let's
take it outside. Yeah. Should we pause it? Dude.
I cannot believe you swung that at David's car.
I cannot believe you hit it. Yeah, sorry guys.
This is the last night of Fantasy Pants. Dude,
you know those like fundraisers where you get
to pay like a certain amount and you get to take
like X amount of baseball bat swings at a car?
We should do that. Dude, imagine that with that
war pick. It's so gorgeous. It's so cool. Just
to add to the coolness, another little hint of
what's coming up. Expect a secondary kind of
additional present along with that war pick.
What? The Pod universe as well. The what? The
Pod universe. The Pod world. What does that mean?
It means Dresden's getting a present too. Oh.
Oh. I'm like, we're living entirely in a pod
world. In world slash out of world. Dude, we're
all in a pod world. We're all corns on the cob.
Take the red pill, David. Damn. It's crazy. Wow.
anyways thank you so much thank you and that
was so fucking cool yeah he's been we've been
we've been keeping the secret from jeremy david
and i've known about this for a little while
and i've been seeing all the like pictures of
the progress and this and that and it's been
really really cool to watch the video of him
just destroying a bucket and it was strong dude
by the way show me this you gotta show me this
i will i don't i don't know where it is but yeah
when we're yeah but yeah so it was really special
to actually like see it in person Andrew's countdown
on Discord yes he's been like every like day
for the past like week or well not week but you
know what I mean three days leading up to it
two days like today's the day dude yeah we got
once this is over we gotta send some messages
out there oh yeah yeah yeah definitely thank
you so much Andrew we'll get at you man as ever
the coolest dude yeah The fire -forging fella
that makes you want to yell out. That's right.
Nice. Hey, should we get to some questions? Now
we can get to the rest of our, well, not the
rest of, we haven't done any yet, but we can
jump in to our listener questions. Oh, yeah.
Hand in hand, dive. Whoa. I've got some here
from... Matthew's Nerdy Nation, who I think isn't
quite caught up yet. I think he's still somewhere
in the 30s. So he'll get these all later on.
Hopefully he doesn't jump ahead and get any spoilers.
Yeah, actually, don't listen to this one. I just
talked about a lot of stuff. Oh, shit. We put
the spoiler warning way too late. But let's crack
this open and see what we got from Matthew. Hey,
Matthew here. In one of the early episodes, David
had said that he was pronouncing Jules' last
name wrong for the entirety of the show until
that point. Yeah, he did. And said there were
other names that he was pronouncing wrong in
the Journey to the Radiant Citadel book. Oh,
no. What were those names? This is fun. Oh my
gosh. Time to produce receipts, my friend. It
is honestly easier to say what weren't those
names. I'm pretty sure Ariat is Ariat. Shule
is Shule. There are so many. When you get to
the first arc, I don't know how many of those
names I got wrong, but probably most of them.
I'm really bad at, I guess, pronouncing names.
Pick one that makes you cringe when you think
of how you pronounced it. Oh, hang on. The Sholay
one is pretty... It's a hard one. The thing is,
it doesn't have the pronunciation guide for...
Ariat and Sholay. So that's shame on you, Wizards
of the Coast. I'm trying to think of one from
a world that was particularly bad. Kiss, kiss.
Oh, I'm having a hard time. I'd go back and take
a look. I kind of said a long time ago that I'm
just horrible at this. In a lot of the worlds,
they will have different pronunciations. I'll
go through the world and look back and be like,
oh, crap. San Sitian is actually San Situan.
I just assumed that the L was a ya. You know?
I don't know. It looked fitting. I like the way
it sounds. It rolls a ton better. Let's not even
get into fucking Papalapadapadahill because fuck
that one. Nobody knows how to say that. Nobody
knows how to say that. Probably everything on
Sansatyan will be straight. It's probably like
Popalotion. Oh, man. Papalapadapalus. So, I will
say everything on Sansatyan will make me cringe
because I'm probably bad at all of it. All right.
Nice. And I am very sorry. I'm very sorry. Sorry.
Let me get into some questions from Zila. Hey,
Fantasy Pants. It's Astropathic, or Zila. I've
got three questions for you today. The first
one is that if you had to run another module,
which module would you pick? Honestly, easy answer,
I would say. Because there's one module I've
played that I've absolutely adored. I only played
a little bit of it, but it was my favorite because
I love the setting so much. I love the whimsy,
I love the fun, and that is Wild Beyond the Witchlight.
I really loved Wild Beyond the Witchlight. I
would love to run that and go beyond that, but
the Feywild is so fun. It can be scary in the
old nursery rhyme way, but like... You have puzzles
in that one where it's like, oh, there's a door,
but it has a big face, and once you're through,
you gotta tell the door a joke to make it laugh,
so its mouth goes, and you go through. Like,
stupid, stupid. I love it so much. I ran for
some people, and there was some, I literally
ran it by book, and there was like some water
methods, or mud methods that came out of this
mud, and they're like, hee hee hee, if you want
to get by, you must name our favorite food, otherwise
we will kill you. Otherwise we will kill you.
And they just thought, they were like, um, Mud
pie? And as written, I had to be like, hee hee
hee hee. Go ahead. Oh my god. Because they were
right. It was mud pie. Just like the whole book
is just tomfoolery, but also legitimately scary.
I ran it like you start off as children. So you
have this whole like opening bit where you're
all children dealing with these nightmarish Feywild
creatures that steal something important from
you. So you have to go on as your adults back
into the Feywild and this grand adventure to
get that stuff back. It's really cool. So if
you're looking for a cool module out there, check
out Wild Beyond the Witchlight. I love it. Something
that I really want to play. I think we've talked
about it before. I would love to play Spelljammer.
That's right. Yes. This is almost Spelljammer.
We were very close. It was around the same time
as Journeys. Spelljammer came out and I chose
this one over it. Barely. I want to do some spacey
sci -fi, but still like swords and shields and
you know what I mean? Yeah. Sorcery. Swords and
sorcery. That's the term. It's a cool blend.
It's a really, really cool blend. Oh, you guys
are looking at me now. Yeah. I don't know. Puppy
dog eyes. I'm the one that hasn't played D &D
for a very long time. It's true. So I played
Radiant Citadel and Frostmaiden with you guys,
and I've loved both of them. Cool. Frostmaiden
was great. We had a lot of fun with what we played
of Frostmaiden. We didn't quite finish, but maybe
someday. Maybe someday. Yeah, I'm having a blast
playing. I don't really know what else is out
there. I trust you guys' judgment. Hell yeah.
Second. What is the ideal amount of dice to have?
Be aware that there is a correct answer. I have
one set of dice I typically use, to be honest.
I feel like that's not the correct answer. I
need the full metal die to handle the Port of
Pain, you know? They gotta be heavy die or else
they go flying. I appreciate that. I appreciate
that, but I think one set, I don't think that's
the answer. I do feel like when we're in combat,
it's kind of like... Oh, it is terrifying when
you roll like 18 D6 and they each sound like
boulders falling down a chimney. Yeah. The hooves
of a god beast coming down to crush you. That
dice set works for you, especially when paired
with your dice tower. But I'm going to speak
for Zila and say that assuredly you're wrong.
Okay. All right. The only correct answer is the
limit does not exist. You can never have too
many. Limitless. You can never have too many
dice. This is the opposite end of the spectrum.
All right. Dice high? That's a reference. Dicetron.
Hey, I just made an old Fantasy Batch reference.
It's true. That's right, yes. If anybody remembers
the original trailer. Yeah, they called that.
Dice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Die. Dices. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. That's so good. That's so good. My
answer is somewhere in between. I hope it's the
right answer. Okay. I feel like as soon as you
feel like you have too many die, that's the right
number. I guess Steven's answer was somewhere
between one and infinite, you know? Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. I hope that's the right answer, you
lazy son of a bitch. It's individual to everybody,
but you need to have more than enough, right?
Yeah. Just get into politics, Steven, with that
way of saying nothing. I thought it was good.
When you think you have too many, that's when
you just get just one more. See? He gets it.
No, but then when you get one more, do I have
too many? I think I have too many. Then you get
one more. Do you have too many then? Yeah, I
have too many. So now it's an infinite loop.
You can never have too many die. Well, I'm curious
to know what Zila's answer is. Find out on Discord!
And your answer too! Find out on Discord! I think
we got one more from Zila. Third question is
which is it better to roll? 3d4, 2d6, or 1d12?
Be aware that there is also a correct answer
i think i'm first hold on i think there was something
else i missed the last like 30 seconds be aware
that there is also a correct answer thanks oh
it was thanks thank you zilla thank you integral
now i get it hold on jeremy spoke up first i
want to hear what jeremy's got to say 3d4 3d4,
2d6, or 1d12. Yeah, they all total the same.
Your choice is 3d4? Yeah. David? 3d4, yeah. Yeah.
If I'm using a boss monster, I at least want
my minimum four damage. If I roll a one on a
d12, I will go to the bathroom and cry. The only
reason I think that I maybe know this is just
from watching, I don't know, some casino show.
I've heard that in craps, Because you roll 2d6
in that casino game. And they say that the most
likely number to roll on 2d6 is 7. Huh. I don't
know why. We've discussed many times before.
I'm not a statistician. I think I've heard this
stat in the zeitgeist. So I'm going to bullshit
blindly math guess 2d6. All right. Okay. Well,
you're wrong. I will say, I love the feeling
of rolling a D12, because you don't do it very
often. I've played a Warlock before with Toll
the Dead, and God, I love rolling D12s, baby.
D12s just feel good. But I'm, again, curious
to hear Zila's answer, because it sounds like
she's got it in the bag. How about we do some
written questions? We've got some written questions
from a couple of people. All right. Firstly...
Wait, you've got to do a voice with them, though.
That's the new rule. I don't know if I can do
it. Someone doesn't put a question in voice,
we've got to do a voice for them. I've got questions
here. That's a horrible voice. Keep going. That
sucks. From Oliver, a .k .a. Scipio Africanus.
Ooh, Oliver. The first ones are to David. I'll
have David read the David question. Ooh. Let's
see. All right. How do I do an Oliver voice here?
I just, I mean. Okay. How much of the campaign
is from the journeys through the Radiant Citadel
official material, and how much is homebrew?
Thank you, Oliver. Great question. Thank you
for that. Okay, Oliver. Sorry. This is like we
didn't even do two episodes tonight, so this
isn't even second episode energy. Will you hurry
up and answer my question? Sure thing. One second.
So I would actually say about half and half,
right? I use a lot of like pieces from Radiant
Citadel, but I change a lot of what those pieces
mean. Like Sholay's in the book, but Sholay is
an entirely different character with a whole
different arc, whole different backstory. I mean,
that's just one sort of person. Like I like to
use a lot of the names and faces and places,
but I like to change a lot about them. It's one
of my favorite parts of DMing is looking at the
puzzle pieces and saying, this is cool. How can
I make this even cooler for me? How can I make
this a David story? And like, just, you know,
make me more excited about it. And it's honestly
why I'm almost like nervous like going into a
full homebrew because I love so much the feeling
of having the support system of those puzzle
pieces. So if you're running a module, get creative,
get crazy because it's fun to have something
to jump off of. It's a great place to start and
say, how can I take this balanced piece of work?
and be a dick about it. Exactly. Dude, that final
fight was so much easier than the book. It's
not even fair. It's crazy. It was like a ghost
and two gargoyles. Like, no way, dude. I want
three tigers. I want the ghost to be way stronger
with legendary actions. I'm going to slap a golem
stat block onto a revenant stat block and do
some weird in -between, some fire elemental stuff.
I don't care. It was fun. It was awesome. Whose
question's up next? This is going to be a question
for Steven. Do you want me to read this to you?
You're going to read it? Okay. I'm doing them
all now. Okay. What do you think would have happened
if you took Pepper or Trace as Zebulon's sidekick
instead of Jean Franklin? That's a really good
question. Damn. Thank you, Oliver. Holy shit,
yeah. Yeah, sure thing, man. So... I think part
of the reason why I picked Jean Franklin was
because he annoyed me the least. That's shocking.
Yeah. As hateable as he was early on. Dude, Trace,
the goblin, like that goblin voice all the time,
I think would have drove me nuts. And Pepper's
unpredictable energy also would have, like, probably
driven me nuts. So I think. So what happened
in the show, like, otherwise? Like, if you change,
pick one of those two. Oh, sure, sure, sure.
Think of how different. Well, we probably wouldn't
have had Blanche. Yeah, no, no way. Blanche was
brought in because of the connection. Yeah. Well,
even earlier than that, we had the Pepper connection,
which I don't know if it would have been the
same otherwise, but at least my intention was
to pump some money into the party by kind of
having like an in with our sponsor. So we could
have started out with less gold, been worse equipped
in those early levels, and been more annoyed
for it. Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you're already so
annoyed. That's crazy. That's nuts to imagine.
Why am I doing this? I'm so annoyed. Yeah, it's
so funny. Like, so much of the story has revolved
around that. choice that that option that that
initial like hey which one of these three do
you want um it's it's wild to see all the big
moments that that happened as a result like well
well we also know like we've talked about before
jean franklin is a character that we in our personal
experience is more familiar we've yeah played
with jean franklin before in a game before this
so so i i think it was kind of the obvious choice
easter egg though honestly i didn't like think
of it as being like uh pick this It was like,
hey, they'll think this is funny. They'll get
a laugh out of this in our third or sixth episode.
I tried to make it objective, but I think it.
I remember being very much in camp John Franklin
and saying, yeah, are you kidding me? You have
to pick John Franklin. Right. Yeah. This is what
has to happen. Well, yeah. I mean, you know,
if you have to pick someone to be by your side
and your choices are the berserker. Was Trace
a fighter? Yeah. A fighter or a paladin? I think.
Yeah. Especially for like. backup for support
i think i'm choosing the palette and for the
rogue character who's high damage but less defensive
right it makes sense it made sense so so in a
lot of ways even even if they're just personally
john franklin made the most sense but also um
trace and pepper kind of annoyed me oh yeah and
finally two jokes that was a fine answer to my
question by the way steve and i'll give you a
b plus thanks happy to hear it can i have a button
no I'll give David a button. I never get those
from Oliver. Finally, to Jeremy, do you write
your own song lyrics? Yes. Now, I want to add
to this question as Oliver. Tell me about your
process for how you write lyrics. I, David, and
Oliver, am curious. I don't have a process. No,
that's cool. I don't. Just sit down and be awesome.
I just sit down and I'm like, okay, what's the
situation? Just sit down and be awesome. Yeah.
Hell yeah. All right. That's cool as hell. No
process whatsoever. Just whatever comes to me.
Usually it's based around like what kind of song
I want to do. Okay. Which I have really enjoyed
so far is like you're picking from different
genres. Yeah, and that wasn't intentional either.
It's just like, hey, we're in here. right let's
do this because it feels right and i've loved
the vibe every time yeah it's it's always so
perfect uh i know you have one more kind of extra
question here uh to steven and jeremy other than
the main characters zebulon jules and blanche
who was your favorite character or sidekick to
sort of play uh jean franklin dance arhalon crispin
uh because you play as the sidekicks in combat
so yeah who do you like the most My favorite
one, which I did not get to utilize near as much
as I wanted to, was Arhalon. Oh, yeah. Arhalon
had a cool kit. He had a cool kit. Yeah. He was
like a better Jean Franklin. Yeah, but he might
come around later, though. Yeah, he might. He's
back now. Oh, yeah. We have a chance, yeah. Wink.
He might come back. Wink. Oh. Hint, hint. All
right, Steven. I guess you want to hear your
answer now. Well, if we want to talk - Keep it
to one word, please. No. If we want to talk in
like monster of the week sort of terms, I love
playing like big magic. So Dresden was really
cool for that. Dresden? Oh, God. What? Crispin.
I do that all the time. Yeah. We mix it up a
lot. Crispin. I loved playing Crispin for that,
you know, because I could pull out like some
big weird spell. Yeah. And do some cool wild
shit. But I'll kind of pivot and say that that's
why I'm really excited to play Salome. Yeah.
Because I'm pretty quickly falling in love with
playing clerics. And I'm really excited to explore
more of that. I think we might see a lot of Salome
coming up. Ooh, la la. Just to end off here,
I want to say love the podcast. Keep up the amazing
work. Thanks, man. Thank you, Oliver. Appreciate
that. You're welcome. I'm going to leave. Goodbye,
guys. See ya. Bye, Oliver. Bye, Oliver. Here's
your phone back. All right. You guys have some
wife questions. Yes. Oh, yeah. We do. Shall I
start? Please do. Heck yeah. I look forward every
unzipped to hearing Gabby. Hi, it's me, Gabby.
I want to know your bucket list of places and
food. Oh. Bucket list places and food. Bucket
list place for me, 100%, is Dragon Quest Island
in Japan. I want to go there so badly. It is
my life dream. I thought we talked about going
there. We talked about going there a long time
ago. Remember? We might have. We should make
it happen sometime. Let's do it. I could just
die happy after that. Food. More pizza. All the
pizza. Try the pizzas. I love pizza, man. More
pizza. Yeah. So, I also... I really would love
to visit Japan. I'd also throw in South Korea.
Oh, yeah. Any of those, the whole continent.
I would love to visit some place in Asia, especially
some place that has that sort of nerdy underculture,
like Japan or South Korea. As far as bucket list
food goes, I think bucket list food is a big
reason why I... learned and like taught myself
how to cook was because i was like i want to
have good food so i'll just learn to make it
hell yeah so i don't know if i have anything
that i'm really like chasing right now that's
that's pretty interesting i'll i'll uh i'll have
to think about that i'm glad you have challenged
your mind yeah thank you gabby that was jeremy
what about you Bucket list place is New Zealand.
Ooh. Good one. Yeah, that's a good one. There's
big spiders, so it's actually a bad one. And
then my bucket list food is an entire Hobbit
feast. Oh, okay. There's also She -Love there.
See, we could make that happen, though. Yeah.
An entire Hobbit feast. Or a close second, the
feast from Hook. You guys might be too young
to fucking understand that. No, I remember. Oh,
you remember it? Oh, yeah. It was imaginary.
Yeah. No, it was real. What are you talking about?
It was real. It was real. It was real. Shit.
But then when it became real. It looked pretty
good. Yeah. It looked pretty good. Yeah. All
right. Hobbit birthday. Let's do it. Oh. Oh.
Oh. What? Oh. Yeah. Wouldn't that be fun? Yeah.
Hobbit feast? Oh, yeah. Now I have one more question
for you. What's that, Gabby? Do you have any
childhood memories where you still cringe thinking
about how awkward you were? I will get the ball
rolling. Okay. I'll get the ball rolling. I'll
turn over the stone for you pants people. I'll
do it for you. So when I was very young, I didn't
really know how urinals were supposed to work.
Stop. Hang on. I haven't got to the funny part
yet. Don't laugh, even at that part. So I didn't
know how urinals were supposed to work, and I...
I would kind of just go in and, you know, unbutton,
unzip and just drop full cheeks. You know, just
full cheeks. So you'd walk in. It's just like
pants on the floor, full cheeks. That's a pretty
normal small kid thing to do. No, we're talking
middle school. Oh. Why did you pry that out of
me? What did I say? I went to middle school.
God damn it. And I have memories. Hang on. I'm
walking into the bathroom. This better not be
yours. Just turn in the corner and just look
at the mirror. And there's David. Pants around
his ankles. Full butters. Oh, God. Full cheeks,
baby. Stephen Howland at that moon. And just
turn around, look over his shoulder, and just
be like, hey, what's up? I think... The kids
today would refer to that as a power move. Nobody
challenged you, I guess. Yeah, I owned the school.
Oh, my God. That's so funny. Top that, Steven.
No, it's not even close. I don't want you to
tickle me until I piss my pants. Oh, my God.
It's not even close. You jerk. Okay. I remember
there was... It's also a middle school one. I
remember there was a school dance. And like last
minute, the DJ canceled. And so the teachers
came and they were like, hey, guys, we're not
having the school dance anymore. And I was like,
bullshit, we're not. I was so cool. I had just
bought a $300 boom box from Walmart. like with
like the six disc CD changer and the speakers
that were like thigh high. And it was like black
with like orange highlights. I was like, nah,
man, I'll bring my boom box in and we can do
the school dance on that. And like, I still don't,
but at the time definitely didn't know anything
about audio or whatnot. So like when you hook
up a $300 Walmart stereo to like, you know, big
speakers that are supposed to play at a school
dance. Yeah. It doesn't go well. It skips a lot.
It cuts out. I don't know why, but it was like,
I don't remember this. It was like an hour and
45 minutes of the music just not working. I must
have been there. Oh yeah, probably. Damn. Yeah,
it was really bad. But yeah, I was so confident
that I was like, I'm going to save the day. I'll
be the DJ. Yeah, no, I still think about that
sometimes. Well, if I didn't laugh at you then,
please allow me to laugh at you now. Nerd. Thanks.
That's truly embarrassing and you should feel
bad for yourself. In front of Gabby? In front
of Gabby? Yeah. Jeremy, give me an answer that's
even funnier. Nope. Oh, man. I'm going to leave
trauma where it lives. That sounds like a hard
pass to me. All right, I've got questions from...
Wait, more about my wife. Oh. Oh, yes. I thought
you passed. Huh? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. We're not done with wife questions.
I have a question, actually. Oh, that's right,
yes. Is I, Abby, who did not want to submit a
voice and walk in the room, so I'm going to be
Abby now. My, Jeremy, you look so tall and dashing.
How I pat my eyelashes at you. Moi. I don't even
know how to respond to that. Yeah. Even as a
joke. What's the question again? Can someone
say it to me so I can say it back to you? She
was curious about how you and I... How do you
and David... Figure out when and how to have
a song. Figure out when and how to write a song
for an arc of Fantasy Pants. Considering we don't
know. You can't really spoil it for me. You don't
know what's going to happen and it can't be spoiled.
Jesus Christ. Thank you, Abby. Great question.
Great question, Abby. Yeah. So pretty early on.
Pretty early on, we kind of had this loose idea
that we wanted to kind of maybe do like a full
song per arc kind of thing. Yeah. Basically,
when we start a new arc, I'm like, okay, got
to figure out a song at some point. So I'll go
to David and I'll say, hey, David, without giving
away really anything, because I can't really
know anything. Tell me something about the arc.
Yeah. Like usually it'll be like, what's the
setting or what are going to be the main players
in the arc? Like theme or tone. Yeah. Like this
last one, I knew. that you know it wasn't a huge
spoiler that we were going to be working with
sholey yeah and by the time like we like i actually
only decided to do the song shortly after we
started the arc so we knew that she was there
and i was like okay i feel like this is going
to be some type of confrontational thing with
sholey at some point because jules is gonna jules
is getting more and more pissed yes yeah um you
know she was hiding stuff going into it and i
basically yeah we kind of confirmed like like
there will probably be a point where you are
going to have to confront showly about something.
Yeah. And opening up about something. And I was
like, okay, that's good. Yeah. We decide, okay,
that's going to be the song. The tone of this,
this arc is very, very gritty, very dark, you
know, I knew that going into it. And yeah. And
like, and like, yeah, yeah. And everything else
is just vibes and yeah. Nothing too specific,
just vibes. And yeah, it's really cool what we're
building off of that. Like, right. Like some
of them, sometimes we have a little more, sorry,
it's empty. It's been empty for a while. I'm
just playing with a can, which is great for audio.
So like, for example, real time. Yeah. You said
we have probably like two major arcs left. Yes.
So we've already discussed, spoiler alert, I
got two songs left. Do one for this next arc
and then provided I'm still alive. Yeah. Got
to do some big finale song. 40th birthday, you
might not be. So yeah, that's a real big peek
behind the fly. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, got two
more songs in this season. Hell yeah. Yeah. Well,
that answers my question. Thank you, honey. She
left. Pause it for one second. It's working.
Okay, we're back. Okay, hang on. All right. I
got a message for someone out there in the pants,
people. Because a pants people has an enemy.
What do you call the enemy of the pants people?
What's the opposite of a pants person? There's
a real shirt out there somewhere. A real shirt.
I was going to say like a pants on fire person.
Pants on fire. Yeah, you know what? There's a
liar, liar, pants on fire right out there with
you. Oliver. No, actually he told the truth.
That's a fair point. He told the truth. Oliver,
earlier today in the Discord. We don't even have
a word. Yeah. Oh, my God. Bad enough. We're going
to think of one. In fact, if you think of a word
bad enough to describe Oliver, put it in the
Discord. In the Discord. Oliver, earlier today,
said that I will create technical difficulties
for you of epic proportions. He said that in
response to last week's episode, which just came
out today. And guess what? And guess what? We
almost lost the whole episode we just recorded.
We almost lost the whole episode. So this is
us an hour after you just heard us being very
upset with Oliver. The last hour. Was it an hour
or was it longer than an hour? I felt like it
was six hours. We had, what, the time stopped?
I aged six years. Yeah, it was a very long time.
It was at least an hour. Yeah. It was like super
high tension. We thought that the whole recording
was lost. Yeah, we had 58, basically, we had
58 minutes recorded. Pretty much most of the
damn thing. Everything that you've heard before
this. And then, yeah. That stuff. Yeah, the good
stuff over there. So I decided, okay, we're going
to enter into a different segment here. So I
wanted to stop the recording, save it, and then
restart it as a new file. Went to hit stop. It
didn't stop. Could not stop the recording. It's
like that movie Speed where the bus won't stop.
Yeah. So and basically. So we just spent the
last hour in the movie Speed. Higher stakes though
because we almost lost that fucking goal of the
last 58 minutes. Yeah. The problem with not being
able to hit stop and stop it is it does not save.
Yeah. It is an active recording that is still
going and it will not save unless you press stop.
We thought. Yes. We got to a point where it's
like okay the only thing to fucking do. is to
unplug it and 95 % to 98 % chance we lose the
recording when we unplug it. You know the thing
is though, I was just going to say, we're overdue.
For big technical... We haven't had it. Many
of the podcasts that I listen to, you tune in
occasionally and they're like, hey, we lost the
whole recording. This is... what we came up with
yeah we haven't had that in three years and we
almost did why tonight's the anniversary yeah
stevens when you're trying to wish bad mojo on
us like hey we're over two guys really we should
lose 10 episodes i'm just saying that we're lucky
that we've gotten this far and i thought tonight
was our night but guess what the power of belief
i don't love and friendship yeah and if you believe
in santa claus uh Christmas will come true. I
can't explain to you how it happened. We unplugged
it. We should have lost it. I turned it back
on, looked in the list, and there's the fucking
recording. I loaded it into my computer just
to make sure we had the entire recording, like
everything, you know, the entire length, and
it's all there. The Christmas miracle. It is
a Christmas miracle. The question on everybody's
lips now. Yeah. Is what are we going to do now?
I have a plan for that. Because I have more questions.
I got zipped questions. You have more questions,
but we have no more time, unfortunately, because
of that debacle, Oliver. So I have a little plan
for what's going forward. I think it's going
to be a cool one. It's even better than our original
idea of just doing it all in one night. Here's
what I'm thinking. Ready for this? Half zipped.
What's that? Your fly's half unzipped? That's
right. Next episode of Fancy Pants, we're doing
a half zip. You'll get half arrested that way.
Yes. What? Half the episodes. It's going to be
more questions, more unzipped, more behind the
scenes, and then we're going to get into the
final sort of pieces, bits, follow -up to this
arc we just went through. So look forward to
that. It's going to be awesome. It's going to
be great. And it's not going to get ruined by
you, Oliver. But until then, guys, we're going
there! Whoa! We saved it! Yeah!