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The following program is intended for mature

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audiences and may cause cancer in at -risk populations.

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Viewer discretion is advised. For all we know,

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robots have souls. We just don't know if they

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do or don't. How do you know? Have you ever been

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a cyborg or a robot? You think we were the first

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ones to inhabit this planet? Fuck no. No, we

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are jumping down this fucking rabbit hole. Yes,

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we are. There's people out there with some really

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dumb thoughts. Extended episode. Where the fuck

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did the spearmen come from? Where the fuck did

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Stonehenge come from? You're telling me that

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they didn't die and become ghosts? They're killing

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already born babies and sell them to the Chinese.

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Aliens exist. Somewhere in China. some days what

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the fuck there are super soldiers that are at

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least nine or ten feet tall super soldiers then

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they are extraterrestrials they are aliens to

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Untitled Podcast. I've been sick for like the

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last five weeks. And you could have fucking told

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me that. I would have worn an N95. I have a pregnant,

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immunocompromised fiancé at home. You drop that

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on me now? No. By the way, AliMac's back. I was

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gone for a fucking long time. Here with Tyler

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and AliMac. When did you fucking start this new

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shit? Kyle Franklin. Like this week? This week.

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Calling in. Episode 129. You could have fucking

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played the Twenty One Pilots version, but that's

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not a good one. The Twenty One Pilots version

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sucks. No one does it, bro. It's fucking sick.

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It sucks. I'm playing Seven Nation Army, Kyle's

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favorite song. Did he just drop out? Yeah, are

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you still with us? Alright. Wrap it up. Technical

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difficulties off the front. Yeah, I remember

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why I left. I remember why I left. Did he just

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pass out drunk? We couldn't hear you over Seven

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Nation Army, actually, yeah. No, I went to go

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take a piss. I said I was going to take a piss.

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Yeah, well, we couldn't hear you over the Seven

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Nation Army. But then I missed something. I had

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a morgue story I was going to tell, and I forgot

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it. Well, we're on the air now, so... Are we

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on air? Oh, yeah, yeah. Why is there, like, fucking,

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like... Wait, hang on. We're recording? Yes.

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We obviously had the intro. Let's give a clap.

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Hang on. What was this one going in? Seven Nation

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Army. Jesus. And then I said that he should have...

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In case he busts out the fucking Jack White and

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I'm not even here, I'm off that picture for this.

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And then I said something that would definitely

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have pissed you off, but I more said to piss

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Tyler off was that he should have played the...

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He should have played the 21 Pilots version of

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Seven Nation Army. Yeah, right. Now you're pissing

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me off. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You

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are pissing me off. I mean, Jack White was loving

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it. Jack White's a god. I'm not going to dispute

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that. I fucking love the guy, too. He kind of

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looks like Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka, but he's

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pretty cool. You're not wrong. He wears a damn

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fedora. I just hate his stupid fedora. Yeah,

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it's honestly the... literally casey hates jack

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white because he wears a fedora yeah it's more

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than it's more than just the fedora i kind of

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feel casey on this because like i i respect jack

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white he's a fucking legend and i love his music

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but like more and respect him he's a fucking

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rock god he's such a fucking weirdo bro you remember

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in that movie it's just a punchable face that's

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it god The movie was like, it might get loud,

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but Jack White, and he was like, oh. That smells

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like hell. He played a record, and he was like,

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this is my favorite song ever. And it was just

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a guy slapping his knee. Holy shit, I feel like

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I'm dying. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. That smells

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like really bad B .O. Yes. Like Chick B .O. Oh,

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I hate Chick B .O. What the fuck is a shit ton

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of music reaction videos? Allergic reaction?

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No, music reaction. You think chick sweat smells

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worse than guy sweat sometimes? I think girls

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don't dream. What? They don't dream? They don't

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dream? No, like, I legitimately don't think girls

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sleep. Like, I think they lie about it. No, they

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definitely do. No, they don't sleep. No, so they

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don't sleep. They basically just go dormant,

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right? They close their eyes. They don't dream.

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They don't do any of that. They plug themselves

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into the outlet. They just lie about it. Nah,

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I mean, because, like... Do you know, I'd be

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behind you on that until my girl started taking

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Unisom with the pregnancy. And that shit, like,

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gives you the weirdest dreams. And she would

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wake up, like, in hysterics thinking, like, our

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cat died. No, but she's making that up. No. No,

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if it was about me, I would have thought she

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was making it up. But it's, like, about our cat.

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And I'm like, all right. She'd be like, your

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cat, our cat, like, jumped off of the windowsill

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and broke its. It broke its back on your fucking

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window. She's making that up. Girls don't sleep.

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They don't dream. Do they poop? That's a new

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one that I've never heard before. What's the

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motivation for that? Girls do poop, but they

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don't sleep. They don't dream. I got to back

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Tyler on that question. What possessed this thought

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process from you here? There's got to be some

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deeply rooted reason behind this. Some dream

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that like... I'm telling you right now. I'm telling

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you, girls, they lie about a lot of things, right?

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And have you ever watched like a dog sleep? I

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mean... I never had a dog. Yeah. Yeah, I guess

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I've seen a dog sleep. Dogs don't sleep hard.

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You could wake them up... Like a cat. ...with

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the snap of your fingers, right? That's what

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girls are doing. They're laying there with their

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eyes closed and they're saying... He's probably

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fucking somebody else. Fuck him. And then that's

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when they wake up and start beating you up and

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saying, I just had a dream and you were fucking

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my sister. You know, they don't dream or sleep.

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They sit there, they close their eyes, and they

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contrive more issues that they can fucking start

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fights with you with. Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, I just

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got a question. How many times have you actually

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cheated on any of your significant others? Jesus

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Christ. He laughs because the number is greater

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than zero. That was a greater than zero kind

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of laugh right there. That's a hard hitter. What

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do you mean? I don't know. It's just the way

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you laughed. I feel like that should have been

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an immediate denial. But to laugh, you're buying

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yourself time to think of an answer. Hang on.

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Define significant other. Person that you were

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in an active relationship with. Oh, Jesus. Fuck,

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I can't even count it. Oh my God. That's rough.

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That's rough. It's called, what's it called?

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Non -consensual extramarital affairs or something

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like that. I believe it's called cheating. I

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think it's called cheating. We turned Casey up.

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I can't even fucking hear him. No, it's called

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non -consensual non -monogamy. What the? Non

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-consensual what? Non -monogamy. Non -monogamy.

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Turn your fucking vocals up. We can hear him

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fine. Yeah, I think that's on your end. I can't

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hear him. I mean, I'm sure it's on our end to

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fix it. No, it literally sounds like he has his

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mic 20 feet away from him. It's literally on

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his mouth. It might be coming from the other

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mic, actually. Ah, great. You know what? Did

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you try this, Tyler? I did. I like him. yeah

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fuck you tyler you're gonna attack the fuck out

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of me all right i just attack everyone everyone

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catches strays sometimes let's talk about the

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lady that wasn't anywhere near running over the

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fucking ice agent she got murdered how about

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that I mean, I did want to talk about this. Simmer

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it down. We're not going to talk about it. Oh,

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the ice thing? I mean, she definitely hit the

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guy, and he shot her. I would shoot her, too.

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No, she didn't. No, she didn't. No, she didn't.

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So she was taking a three -point turn. So hold

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up. Hold up. Hold up. She turned the wheel. I

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intentionally kept myself in the dark. That is

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a wild take, Casey. This lady, I guess. I haven't

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heard this story intentionally. I knew some shit

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happened. Everybody's talking about it. I intentionally

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kept myself in the dark because I wanted you

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guys to tell me and I wanted to see how much

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chaos it caused. No, so this lesbian lady, she

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was trying to help her neighbor out because Ice

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was trying to get... Just so I'm making sure

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I heard you correctly. She said she's lesbian?

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Yeah. Okay, so that's got to be pertinent somehow.

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And so... No, it's just background. Ice was trying

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to like... arrest her neighbor or something.

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She came and I guess was like arguing with them.

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She blocked them off with their car and then

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the ICE agents came. She didn't assault them.

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She blocked them with the car and then the cops

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said, okay, get out of the car and then she just

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fucking floored it and there was a cop in front

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of it. So he's on foot? Yeah, he's on foot. What's

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she blocking him from? Blocking the street is

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an assault. No, no, no. That wasn't the assault.

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The fucking part where she literally, the ICE

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agents got out of their truck because she blocked

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the whole street. All right. And they went over

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to it and they're like, hey, turn off the car.

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And so she tried to flee. No, she tried to flee

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and then she hit the fucking cop, like clipped

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him. So then he shot her in the head. But she

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turned the wheel all the way to the right at

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the end. And she still hit the guy. And people

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are freezing the picture where the wheels are

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straight and with an arrow pointing straight.

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But they don't see she turned the wheel all the

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way right to get around. And the ICE agent stepped

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out in front of her. No, he didn't. He was already

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in front of the fucking car. Alright, so what

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speed was this car going? We're all in agreement

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that he got hit. She was stopped. Well, no, you're

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telling me that he stopped. You're saying that

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he hit her. Yeah, she hit her. No, she was stopped,

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and then she does a three -point turn, so she

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backs up. She was not doing a three -point turn.

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She was. That was the worst take out of all of

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these. She turned left, backed up. She's not

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doing a three -point turn. She turned left, backed

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up, and then she went forward and turned all

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the way right. That's a three -point turn. That's

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not a... She was not doing a three -point turn

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in any way, shape, or form, Casey. I mean, regardless

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of the circumstances. That's what a three -point

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fucking turn is. That is such a little... fucking

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take on this. She was not doing a three -point

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turn. I'm saying her goal was to get out of the

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street. I want to hear Kyle's take here. I feel

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like we've heard both here. Let me ask you guys

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a question. Do you guys believe that Paul McCartney

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died in 1960? I don't see how that's related.

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I think he's dead, actually. I'm happy John Lennon

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got shot in the face like the piece of shit he

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was. Objection unrelated. So here's the thing.

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I feel like people... The girl was doing a three

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-point turn. She was doing a three -point turn,

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and this guy that probably got bullied in high

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school with a mask on decided, I'm going to step

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in front of the car. Obviously, she put it in

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drive. She's a lady. Lady brain. Ladies can't

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drive, right? She guns it. Guy's in front of

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the car. He's going to get hit. You shouldn't

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stand in front of a car when there was a lady

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fucking driving, right? Even if he didn't move,

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it would have barely touched him. Oh, I got bullied

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my whole life. Hey, I have a better fucking,

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I have a better idea. If you're in a fucking

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car and guys with fucking guns and badges tell

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you to stop the car and you don't. But you can

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see from the video when she turned the wheel

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all the way this way, it wouldn't have hit him.

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So can I give my completely uneducated take on

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this without seeing the video? Yeah. I mean,

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I think that people just try to make this into

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like, they try to somehow relate this shit to

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politics. When at the end of the day, I'm sure

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people are trying to make this chick the next

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George Floyd. At the end of the day, it sounds

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like the cop definitely overreacted. But at the

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same time, though, that's like a fucking... You're

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in a knee -jerk reaction situation as the cop.

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I'm certainly not defending the guy. He made

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the wrong call. But, like, I doubt he wanted

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to fucking put her down. Like, I don't think

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it's that fucking deep. People try to. I know.

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That's why I said fuck earlier. Oh, when did

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that happen? I didn't see it. A minute or two

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ago. No, he absolutely did. Dude, he reached

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for the gun before she even put it in drive.

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No, he heard the rev of the engine. That's why

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he started pulling. She backed up. So that was

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literally a three -point turn. If that's not

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a three -point turn, I don't know what it is.

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I don't think there's a problem with him pulling

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a gun. Casey, first off, Casey, if I hear you

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say three -point turn, one more time. Well, Tyler's

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telling me that's not a three -point turn. What

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the fuck's a three -point turn, then? Alright,

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it doesn't matter what type of turn this bitch

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was taking. Regardless, he's telling her to fucking

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not move. And she starts moving. But it doesn't

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matter. He's not a law enforcement officer. Yes,

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he is. He's technically a law enforcement officer.

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He's a fucking hand of Homeland Security. That's

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not the same fucking thing. I don't know what

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the fucking rules for DHS is. Alright, so the

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only piece of information that managed to slip

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through the cracks because I was trying to keep

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myself in the dark on this was apparently the

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guy that shot her had some history where he tried

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to stop somebody in a vehicle and he somehow

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ended up getting dragged by a car for like 30

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yards and ended up getting himself fucked up.

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So obviously, that supports my theory of... This

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guy got bullied his entire life. I think he got

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bullied that one time he got dragged by a car

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and he had a trauma response. He has a little

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fucking dick and he's trying to fucking make

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himself seem fake. He was probably trying to

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pull somebody out of the car while they were

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trying to get away. He could have just let go.

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I don't think pulling the gun in that instance

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is the wrong idea. Let me summarize this real

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quick. This girl said, you know what? I can't

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win this argument. Let me get away. Buddy with

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the little dick said, Not on my watch, bitch.

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And then shot her. He could have let her fucking

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just drive away. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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She was fleeing. She wasn't trying to run over

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the cops. She was fleeing. I'm not on Casey's

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side. I'm not on Tyler's side. Fuck both of you.

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I'm saying this fucking woman, no matter how

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deranged she is, got fucking killed because...

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buddy with a little dick said, I got a gun and

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you're not going to prove me wrong because I

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got proved wrong my whole life. Well, she's just

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a normal person. She's just a normal person.

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I mean, what would you do if your friend was

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getting kidnapped, arrested, taken away? I mean...

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I just feel like people try to make shit bigger

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than I'm paying attention. I think it's like

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watching the game. It's like you, the thing that

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it's funny. Cause I kind of, I hate to relate

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this to something like sports, but like you see

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these guys that are like, and we're not, we're,

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I know we're not talking about the top of their

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league with these ice guys. This guy probably

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got hired because he saw an ad on fucking YouTube

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for it. Some fucking neck beard, but like, exactly,

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exactly. But they still give them guns and they

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do this shit. So you can't expect them to do

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a great job. But at the end of the day, like

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I, It really comes down to whether or not there's

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malicious intent, and if I had to guess, I'm

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taking a shot in the dark here. A shot in the

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dark. Obviously, you need more information to

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know that, but I really doubt this guy wanted

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to blow her fucking head off. He probably just

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made a really fucking bad judgment call. Well,

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yeah, she's in a fucking car, Casey. What else

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is he going to hit? Allie Mack, he's been bullied

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his entire life. Where's the evidence of that?

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Because that seems like speculation. Did you

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bully this guy? Is it your fault? Kyle fucking

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bullied this guy. I'm in the fucking middle here.

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A woman's lost her fucking life over a guy that

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has a little dick that got bullied his whole

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life. Yeah, so you're backing my argument up

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here. How would you know this guy got bullied

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for a little dick if you didn't see his dick

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and then bully him for it? No, but she was coming

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from a parked position. Fucking crickets from

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Kyle on that one. The car was here. I'm sorry.

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I had a mute because I was laughing of Casey

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talking about a three -footer. Even if the car

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was coming at him, why couldn't he just step

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out of the way? Casey goes, she was doing a three

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-point turn. That is a bad taking. She was trying

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to get into a better position to get yanked out

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of the car. She was trying to make the officer's

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job easy. When you fucking back up one way and

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then you turn the other way and go forward. She

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was doing a three -point turn. That is the most

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unhinged part of this. I think the biggest problem

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here is that she... This bitch, was she using

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a backer? No, she did not have a backer. She

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did have a backer. Yeah, never mind. It's on

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her. She wasn't using a fucking truck. She was

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not using a spotter. That's completely on her.

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You need a fucking backer. If she had hit something

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backing up like that, Mohawk would have fired.

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They wouldn't have fired her. They would have

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pulled her driver. The best part was she got

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shot without a spotter and Mohawk still would

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have fired her. They would have just went to

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the funeral and been like, hey, sorry. They would

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have said, you got shot because you weren't using

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a spotter, you're fired. No, they would have

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thrown her ass in dispatch. They fucking put

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her corpse in the fucking boat. They're like,

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nobody else is applying. Hang on. You guys want

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to talk about the fact that COVID was a giant

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ruse to create the COVID lockdown so they could

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kill all the birds and replace them with bird

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-like drones. I'm just waiting for this to tie

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in with McCartney because I know it's connected

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somehow. There's no comment on what I just said.

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So, COVID? I mean, wait. Actually, me and Kyle

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might be in agreement because this was a take

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I had in the dark episode. Hang on, hang on.

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Let me slow it down. Let me slow it down. Okay.

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They used the flu season, right? Yeah. Created

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a test that would make the flu show up as quote

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-unquote COVID, right? So that everybody gets

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COVID. Now we got to lock it down because we

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got a fucking pandemic going on, right? While

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we're in lockdown. The government kills all the

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birds and switches them out with bird -like drones.

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So, Kyle, you're going to fucking hate. Well,

00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:38.799
you're either going to hate or you're going to

00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.380
love what I have to say here. But what you just

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said, like practically verbatim, was my take

00:19:44.460 --> 00:19:47.900
the first episode we ever had on Untitled. The

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one that we did in my basement. Yeah, but that

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was before COVID happened. No, no, it wasn't.

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Yeah, it was. Dude, I didn't live in that. I

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didn't move out of my parents' house until COVID

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hit. I moved in the middle of COVID, yeah. i

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don't remember if we play back that dark tape

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you'll hear me bitching and well not bitching

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and moaning but you'll hear me screaming about

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how it i mean my i mean my theory from the virus

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in the intro remember yes but but yeah because

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i think there's a little bit more than making

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it just pop on a test saying that it's COVID.

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They did make a flu that's worse than the flu

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that we had. That's why it whacked everybody.

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They're like, we'll get rid of a bunch of the

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old people and then we'll also... So the difference

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between you and my opinion here, Kyle, is that...

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I thought that the birds were already fake as

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fuck, but they needed to get a new generation

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of those fuckers in there that were somehow solar

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-powered or self -sufficient, and they needed

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to... So what I was thinking was, they already

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have fake birds out, right? But... Well, you

00:20:48.900 --> 00:20:52.279
said they killed all of them. So they already

00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.859
have fake birds out, but not all birds are fake,

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right? And then they realized how productive

00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.900
having fake birds out was. So they said, well,

00:21:00.980 --> 00:21:04.140
we need to make all the birds fake. And then

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they had to create a moment where everybody would

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be stuck in their house, right? I got a different

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take on why COVID happened. I think that the

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big business created COVID so they could destroy

00:21:16.619 --> 00:21:18.779
all the small businesses. No, the Chinese created

00:21:18.779 --> 00:21:19.859
COVID. Yeah, I mean, that's a good one, too.

00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.210
I can't argue with that one, either. Because

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it did destroy most small businesses. A lot of

00:21:24.990 --> 00:21:29.309
the 1 % had a lot to benefit from with COVID.

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It whacked a lot of small businesses. It made

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Amazon the biggest thing that's ever happened.

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Now that COVID's not even a thing. What the fuck

00:21:37.009 --> 00:21:40.789
is Casey doing? He's just chilling. Just hear

00:21:40.789 --> 00:21:43.309
him keep breathing into the mic. Oh, no, that's

00:21:43.309 --> 00:21:46.039
me. No, that's Tyler. All right. Fucking guy

00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:48.000
gets married for one month, he's drinking beers

00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:49.440
and fucking vaping all of a sudden. Oh, you're

00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.640
drinking? You're drinking, Tyler? I'm drinking

00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.079
a single beer. Yeah, he had one beer, and then

00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.619
he had a single. He took one hit of this vape,

00:21:56.619 --> 00:21:58.799
and he acted like it was the only one, but he

00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:00.619
kind of liked the hit, so now he's over here

00:22:00.619 --> 00:22:03.099
Frenching. I'll tell you right now. I'll tell

00:22:03.099 --> 00:22:07.160
you right now. You know, me and Casey jamming

00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.079
in the studio aside, obviously, because I'm going

00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.640
to drink in the studio. Uh, next time I drink

00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:14.599
with any of you guys, it's going to be me and

00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.480
Allie Mac downing 50 beers. So you're, you're

00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.240
not going to like this, but, uh, I don't even

00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.779
tell me you're sober again. I'm not, no, I'm

00:22:23.779 --> 00:22:25.720
not sober. I got a fucking beer in my hand right

00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:29.759
now, but I, I, I've really, I've cut back a shitload

00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.180
and my alcohol tolerance is like, I mean, I'll

00:22:32.180 --> 00:22:34.039
still do it. I'll get fucking trashed. I'll make

00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.359
a fool of myself. I don't care if your alcohol

00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.519
tolerance is good or not. We're doing 40 each.

00:22:39.879 --> 00:22:43.000
All right. I'll need to fucking do a double dose

00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:45.259
of my Adderall first. Maybe that'll keep me going.

00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:49.200
I need a fucking stimmy. Listen, do an Adderall.

00:22:49.420 --> 00:22:52.000
Save one for me. Crush it up. I'll snort it.

00:22:52.059 --> 00:22:54.640
We'll get after it. All right. I'm not going

00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.640
to confirm or deny if I'll do that because that

00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.279
would be me distributing a schedule to medication.

00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:06.539
And I'm not going to do that. I'm very sorry.

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.539
We were just joking around. We're talking in

00:23:11.539 --> 00:23:13.940
Minecraft. It's in Minecraft. That's not anything

00:23:13.940 --> 00:23:17.660
we'd actually... We're playing GTA 5. We're playing

00:23:17.660 --> 00:23:22.940
Schedule 1. Bro, how good of a game is that?

00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:26.480
Schedule 1 was a fun game. I haven't played it...

00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.500
in like a few months. I haven't played it in

00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:30.720
the update, so that was a very good game. We

00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.440
got really autistic in Minecraft. Yeah, the world

00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:37.119
in Minecraft has gotten out of hand. Do you guys

00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:40.160
believe that the moon maybe is a hologram? Nope.

00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:45.259
No. I think that the moon is a fractured planet.

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All I know is we didn't land on it. Okay, I mean,

00:23:48.779 --> 00:23:52.150
like, at the end of the day... Pretty much everything

00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:55.990
is a fractured planet. Most planets spun off

00:23:55.990 --> 00:23:58.609
because two much bigger things whacked into one

00:23:58.609 --> 00:24:01.150
another, broke apart. Then over millions of years,

00:24:01.210 --> 00:24:04.430
gravity makes it a sphere that also orbits something

00:24:04.430 --> 00:24:06.230
that's bigger. Well, it's because our Earth is,

00:24:06.269 --> 00:24:10.069
our moon is like, like freakishly large compared

00:24:10.069 --> 00:24:11.990
to most. Yeah, but you know what? Can I, can

00:24:11.990 --> 00:24:14.150
I like, can I? But it's not a one in a million.

00:24:14.150 --> 00:24:16.490
Can I say something to you guys? About the Paul

00:24:16.490 --> 00:24:20.130
McCartney thing? No, honestly, I'm glad you're

00:24:20.130 --> 00:24:21.450
pulling me away from this because I'm just going

00:24:21.450 --> 00:24:23.390
to go on a fucking space rant for an hour and

00:24:23.390 --> 00:24:26.710
a half. We're going to circle back to that, though,

00:24:26.710 --> 00:24:29.089
Tyler, you son of a bitch. No, but you guys shot

00:24:29.089 --> 00:24:32.289
me down really fucking quick, right? There is

00:24:32.289 --> 00:24:35.650
a Beatles line. Like, I don't remember what song

00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:39.589
it is, but... What is it? Who's the retard that

00:24:39.589 --> 00:24:43.049
got shot and he played Imagine? I fucking hate

00:24:43.049 --> 00:24:47.130
that. Yeah, John Lennon. There's literally a

00:24:47.130 --> 00:24:51.769
fucking lyric of him saying, Paul is dead. He

00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:55.009
sings in a song, Paul is dead. Yeah, he does.

00:24:55.349 --> 00:24:58.430
Yeah, but I also think that the Beatles fucking

00:24:58.430 --> 00:25:01.930
suck and I hate them. Yeah, but tell me how there's

00:25:01.930 --> 00:25:06.829
a car crash that is the same car as Paul McCarty

00:25:06.829 --> 00:25:11.029
drives. um that was a fatal car crash recorded

00:25:11.029 --> 00:25:14.190
as a fatal car crash but we don't know who was

00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:16.809
the driver or whatever that died i need to see

00:25:16.809 --> 00:25:18.750
their toes that's that's how yeah because they

00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:21.690
were like it was probably It was probably cheaper

00:25:21.690 --> 00:25:23.809
to just replace him and tell everybody that he's

00:25:23.809 --> 00:25:26.809
actually Paul McCartney. You're not beating the

00:25:26.809 --> 00:25:29.069
accusations that you're not a big guy. It was

00:25:29.069 --> 00:25:33.329
in the Beatles' heyday. I have a foot job before,

00:25:33.430 --> 00:25:35.710
too. Yeah, exactly. It was in the heyday of the

00:25:35.710 --> 00:25:38.170
Beatles. It was in the heyday of the Beatles.

00:25:38.490 --> 00:25:41.789
And they were like, they literally were like,

00:25:41.789 --> 00:25:44.200
well, we can't. It was obviously, I'm not going

00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.660
to say who the race was. Yeah, they're like,

00:25:46.700 --> 00:25:49.079
we're going to break up if we don't do this.

00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:50.339
No, no, but hang on, hang on. I'm not going to

00:25:50.339 --> 00:25:52.539
say who the race of the people were that said

00:25:52.539 --> 00:25:57.259
that they should do this, but it was the Jews.

00:25:59.740 --> 00:26:03.480
Sounds like a religion. They said they had to

00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:05.640
keep the band together, so they literally needed

00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:10.259
a replacement for Paul McCartney. Oh, my God.

00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:14.500
You see, now when Kyle comes on the podcast and

00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:17.160
he starts throwing shit out like that, naming

00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.339
our previous employer, this is why, I know you're

00:26:20.339 --> 00:26:22.420
like, oh, I got nothing to lose. I put my two

00:26:22.420 --> 00:26:25.460
weeks in at my job. This is why I kind of stress

00:26:25.460 --> 00:26:27.599
about like, oh yeah, let's bring a ton of attention.

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.759
Let's actually like make this podcast a thing.

00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.160
Maybe fucking not. Maybe fucking not. Dan got

00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.720
fucking 400 ,000 hits on his post. We'll get

00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:41.000
buried. I'll lose my fucking livelihood. It's

00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.140
not that serious. Nobody's got more to lose than

00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:47.799
me if this podcast blows the fuck up. I mean,

00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.759
I'd lose my fiance most likely because I'm bringing

00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.980
no income in. I've said so many heinous things

00:26:53.980 --> 00:26:55.880
on this podcast. You're bringing income in from

00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.579
the fucking podcast. Well, yeah. I mean, you'd

00:26:59.579 --> 00:27:01.660
catch charges. I wouldn't catch charges. I'd

00:27:01.660 --> 00:27:04.259
just get fired and probably lose my wife. If

00:27:04.259 --> 00:27:07.180
this thing blows up. I become the criminal. I'm

00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:09.660
your scapegoat. I'd probably just get charged

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:12.740
with hate crimes. Actually, we might be able

00:27:12.740 --> 00:27:16.240
to pin it all on you, Kyle. I'm fucked, bro.

00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:21.380
If you guys blow up, I'm fucked. I try to watch

00:27:21.380 --> 00:27:23.339
what I say. I mean, here's the thing, Kyle. I

00:27:23.339 --> 00:27:26.500
had to learn this in the early days of the podcast

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:28.819
when I was getting a little too rowdy. I limit

00:27:28.819 --> 00:27:33.269
myself to like... three to five beers on the

00:27:33.269 --> 00:27:35.730
podcast because if I drink any more, I'm going

00:27:35.730 --> 00:27:39.170
to say some shit that I shouldn't. That's kind

00:27:39.170 --> 00:27:41.029
of where I'm at. But I feel like you haven't

00:27:41.029 --> 00:27:44.950
been on the podcast with less than in your system

00:27:44.950 --> 00:27:47.369
up to this point. Not even being a douchebag.

00:27:47.430 --> 00:27:49.670
I just think that that's the truth. At least

00:27:49.670 --> 00:27:52.869
any episodes we've both been on. So I was looking

00:27:52.869 --> 00:27:55.589
at the statistics for the podcast the other day.

00:27:55.930 --> 00:27:58.690
And we were getting like 500 views a month. And

00:27:58.690 --> 00:28:00.289
I'm like, where are all these fucking views coming

00:28:00.289 --> 00:28:03.809
from? And then I see we have the NHH episode.

00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:07.579
uh which is the kanye song just got 1600 views

00:28:07.579 --> 00:28:09.940
for some reason christ and it's just fucking

00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:13.180
it's blowing up our ad revenue kind of feels

00:28:13.180 --> 00:28:15.940
illegal but yeah here's the thing is the second

00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:18.579
spotify hears that that's that's what we're collecting

00:28:18.579 --> 00:28:23.200
ad revenue on everything gets demonetized everything

00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.859
gets demonetized the wrong person hears about

00:28:25.859 --> 00:28:28.819
that it's like wow we so if we set up like a

00:28:28.819 --> 00:28:31.339
bunch of bots that just like hit play on our

00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:35.420
episode like a bunch of times a day That's called

00:28:35.420 --> 00:28:41.200
fraud. No, bro, they did Superman 3. Yeah, but

00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.619
here's the thing. That's called fraud. jesus

00:28:45.619 --> 00:28:49.240
fucking christ one youtuber with like a hundred

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.559
we get one youtuber with a hundred thousand subscribers

00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.160
that hears about this podcast we're fucking buried

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.039
we're done we're done one five minute video that's

00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.380
all it takes and we're all going to 400 000 hits

00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:05.099
because he posted something about how canada

00:29:05.099 --> 00:29:07.480
would should join the u .s and he made like a

00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.339
canadian flag into american flag and all the

00:29:10.339 --> 00:29:12.980
fucking canadians came out and tried to fucking

00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:16.200
threaten him Yeah, the post gets nothing but

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.400
hate. And what's fucking Casey's take? Hey, you

00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.480
should tell them about our podcast. It'd be funny

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.059
because they listen to the episode. They see

00:29:22.059 --> 00:29:26.640
that we're like satire. No, Casey, that is the

00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.819
most ridiculously optimistic outlook on that.

00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:32.920
They're already hate charged. Exactly. You're

00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:34.339
just giving them a spot. That's what gets hits

00:29:34.339 --> 00:29:37.079
these days. Yeah, that's what fucking gets...

00:29:37.369 --> 00:29:39.690
People fucking arrested, Casey! We're gonna get

00:29:39.690 --> 00:29:41.869
fucking whacked, alright? We're gonna get fucking

00:29:41.869 --> 00:29:44.450
whacked. We said too many things about the Jews.

00:29:44.710 --> 00:29:47.190
We're done. No, I never said shit about them,

00:29:47.210 --> 00:29:49.309
alright? I'm absolving myself. I never fucking

00:29:49.309 --> 00:29:51.430
said a fucking word about that. If anything,

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:54.109
actually, I have came to their defense. I have

00:29:54.109 --> 00:29:58.049
a problem with what people depict as the Jews.

00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:01.430
To what what I'm sure this is gonna be this is

00:30:01.430 --> 00:30:04.390
not gonna be good, but let's just like no But

00:30:04.390 --> 00:30:07.849
I'm not saying I think the issue is I don't think

00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:12.130
all Jews are bad But I think people use the label

00:30:12.130 --> 00:30:16.230
the Jews And maybe they're not even Jewish, but

00:30:16.230 --> 00:30:19.390
yeah, I mean people depict them as well. It's

00:30:19.390 --> 00:30:23.660
not all Jews. It's fascist conservative, you

00:30:23.660 --> 00:30:26.740
know. Oh my fucking God, Casey. Not everybody

00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:29.279
you dislike is a fascist. Well, they're far right.

00:30:29.299 --> 00:30:32.000
Not every person you dislike is a fascist, Casey.

00:30:32.140 --> 00:30:34.660
It's fucking annoying. Dude, every fucking day

00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:36.700
in the fucking group chat, you're talking about

00:30:36.700 --> 00:30:39.700
fascist this and fascist that. Casey, there's

00:30:39.700 --> 00:30:42.920
not been fucking fascism since the fucking World

00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.640
War II. Netanyahu is a far right extremist. He's

00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.059
not a fascist, you fucking retard. He's not a

00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:51.089
fascist, but he's a far right conservative. Talk

00:30:51.089 --> 00:30:54.890
about how Queen Elizabeth I was a man. He's acting

00:30:54.890 --> 00:30:59.089
like a fascist. What? What? So you guys don't

00:30:59.089 --> 00:31:01.630
want to talk about how Queen Elizabeth I was

00:31:01.630 --> 00:31:04.369
a man? Who was Queen Elizabeth II? Like from

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:11.369
the 1600s? No, Queen Elizabeth I, she died. of

00:31:11.369 --> 00:31:13.869
the bubonic plague as a child, but she was actually

00:31:13.869 --> 00:31:17.289
a man. Kyle, I gotta say, you have a talent that

00:31:17.289 --> 00:31:20.369
I never thought would be surpassed by Tyler.

00:31:20.470 --> 00:31:22.509
Because Tyler had the talent where we'd be talking

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:24.890
about one thing, and then somebody would just

00:31:24.890 --> 00:31:27.869
say some shit that had like... absolutely nothing

00:31:27.869 --> 00:31:30.250
to do with it. And I thought that was like a

00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:32.430
Tyler thing. You might actually have him beat

00:31:32.430 --> 00:31:34.789
in that category. We're talking about some chicken

00:31:34.789 --> 00:31:37.109
shot in a car and you're like, yo, Paul McCartney

00:31:37.109 --> 00:31:41.329
got fucking whacked in the 60s. Now we're talking

00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:42.970
about the Jews and then all of a sudden, yo,

00:31:42.970 --> 00:31:45.829
Queen Elizabeth, that bitch was a dude. All right,

00:31:45.849 --> 00:31:50.650
I'm just saying. I will tell you how Shane used

00:31:50.650 --> 00:31:53.349
to describe me to everybody and be like, this

00:31:53.349 --> 00:31:58.190
is Kyle. A plethora of useless knowledge. I think

00:31:58.190 --> 00:32:00.690
that's kind of all of us. You're just... It's

00:32:00.690 --> 00:32:02.950
just, I feel like... Hang on, hang on. Do you

00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:05.630
guys want to know about how maybe the government

00:32:05.630 --> 00:32:09.829
testing space beams started those wildfires?

00:32:10.109 --> 00:32:12.150
Oh, we already went over this one. Yeah, we've

00:32:12.150 --> 00:32:16.210
been on that. That's cool. That shit we've been

00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:19.150
on. We've been on that shit. Yeah, but we're

00:32:19.150 --> 00:32:21.660
all... Listen, I've been taking notes. Allie

00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:23.559
Mack, did you keep yourself in the dark about

00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.839
the other news story this week? I haven't been

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.980
able to get on a podcast with a lot of you guys

00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:30.440
in a while. I've been taking notes. What the

00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.279
fuck is happening? That's my fucking boy, the

00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.700
fucking French Drain. Let's go, Sub Pop! Yeah,

00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.519
Sub Pop! That's our favorite fucking co -host.

00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.079
Can you guys not hear me? No, we can hear you.

00:32:43.180 --> 00:32:46.000
Yeah, but I said I've been taking notes for a

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.559
few months because I haven't been able to get

00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:49.359
the whole podcast. Every time I do a podcast,

00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:54.279
it's just me and Casey. I've been taking notes

00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.579
about things I want to talk about. You guys let

00:32:56.579 --> 00:32:58.599
me know if you want to talk about it. I do, but

00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.559
I just want to circle back to what Casey said

00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.480
first. I feel like we always open up the first

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.259
half of the epi is always politics. Hang on.

00:33:08.779 --> 00:33:11.420
Can we all agree that Princess Diana was killed

00:33:11.420 --> 00:33:14.160
by the royal family? I agree with that one. I

00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.960
don't give a fuck about that bitch. I don't know

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:21.220
who she is. Excuse me? Excuse me? She was hot.

00:33:21.500 --> 00:33:24.759
I mean, she probably was hot. If you showed me

00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.539
a Google image, I'd probably be like, oh yeah,

00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.940
I've seen that before. No, no. Hot is not the...

00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:32.960
She was a smoke show. The lion does not concern

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:36.000
himself with shit that happened before 1998.

00:33:36.099 --> 00:33:38.559
Jesus Christ. Yeah, but do we agree that the

00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.339
government released HIV to kill out the gays

00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:44.480
and the blacks? I think that's just like a well

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.339
-known fact. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Because

00:33:48.339 --> 00:33:52.490
the crack epidemic didn't work? I mean, they

00:33:52.490 --> 00:33:54.710
just, it's kind of just, you could, you could

00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.329
rattle off a million things that they keep doing

00:33:57.329 --> 00:33:59.410
where it's either it didn't work or it didn't

00:33:59.410 --> 00:34:01.029
work well enough. And it's like, all right, well,

00:34:01.150 --> 00:34:03.910
crack didn't get it done. Let's get HIV in there.

00:34:03.950 --> 00:34:06.410
Fuck. That's not really doing as much damage

00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:08.329
as we wanted to. All right. Let's try fucking

00:34:08.329 --> 00:34:11.309
MK ultra. That's not working. We can't control

00:34:11.309 --> 00:34:13.130
people's minds the way we wanted to, at least

00:34:13.130 --> 00:34:15.190
not good enough. All right. Well, nah, fuck it.

00:34:15.230 --> 00:34:16.730
Let's just make COVID. Let's just make COVID.

00:34:16.789 --> 00:34:18.610
Let's give ourselves more money and kill a bunch

00:34:18.610 --> 00:34:20.989
of old people. Like there's a million fucking

00:34:20.989 --> 00:34:23.309
things. they do now we're at a day and age where

00:34:23.309 --> 00:34:25.650
it's like all right now let's just make it so

00:34:25.650 --> 00:34:28.730
all the politicians can lie and because everybody

00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:31.530
does it it's the norm and now we can just say

00:34:31.530 --> 00:34:34.010
shit and nobody knows what's true and let's introduce

00:34:34.010 --> 00:34:36.650
ai let's make all the fucking graphics cards

00:34:36.650 --> 00:34:39.809
in the world go to fucking ai places these fucking

00:34:39.809 --> 00:34:42.130
massive places so that all this shit gets so

00:34:42.130 --> 00:34:45.210
fucking convincing that no no no no i got shit

00:34:45.210 --> 00:34:50.920
to say here I lost my steam. You derailed me,

00:34:50.980 --> 00:34:54.139
Kyle. Tell me about Queen Elizabeth. I've been

00:34:54.139 --> 00:35:01.980
doing a lot of research on AI. I'm cracking another

00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:05.469
beer. This shit's getting me tight now. We all

00:35:05.469 --> 00:35:08.190
believe that the U .S. government killed MLK

00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:12.070
Jr., right? That's easy. You just shot... No,

00:35:13.710 --> 00:35:15.909
no, it wasn't him. I did it to myself. The FBI.

00:35:16.449 --> 00:35:18.949
There's a distinction to be made. The FBI whacked

00:35:18.949 --> 00:35:22.510
MLK. The FBI did it. Shut the fuck up. Here's

00:35:22.510 --> 00:35:25.110
one I wrote down that I was probably bombed off

00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:32.969
my ass for. You still are. No surprise. No judgment,

00:35:33.050 --> 00:35:36.630
but no surprise. Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany

00:35:36.630 --> 00:35:38.789
escaped to Antarctica, established a military

00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:41.730
base, and are still operating there. No, we're

00:35:41.730 --> 00:35:43.750
in fucking Agartha, dude. They went under the

00:35:43.750 --> 00:35:45.110
Earth. They're in the middle of the Earth, man.

00:35:45.570 --> 00:35:49.150
That's what actually happened. This is where

00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:58.590
my notes take a dark turn. At some point, I believe

00:35:58.590 --> 00:36:02.130
Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler escaped Antarctica.

00:36:02.829 --> 00:36:05.650
Now they just live there. No, they live in the

00:36:05.650 --> 00:36:07.849
center of the earth now. Kyle, the lyrics that

00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:10.949
you send me make me concerned for your well -being.

00:36:11.829 --> 00:36:14.670
God, he's been playing his fucking balls off

00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:19.349
lately. Are you okay there, Kyle? Hang on, you

00:36:19.349 --> 00:36:21.469
want a good one? You guys want another good one?

00:36:21.789 --> 00:36:24.190
It sounds like you're reading out of a fucking

00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:27.449
joke book. I have no context. to this. It's one

00:36:27.449 --> 00:36:30.869
line. I have no context. Some of these notes

00:36:30.869 --> 00:36:34.449
I put little indents in and whatever. I don't

00:36:34.449 --> 00:36:38.050
know where I came up with this. Denver's airport

00:36:38.050 --> 00:36:42.429
is the headquarters of the Illuminati. That's

00:36:42.429 --> 00:36:44.829
straight up confirmed. That's already confirmed.

00:36:45.289 --> 00:36:52.150
Okay. Genuinely. All right, hang on, hang on,

00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:54.550
hang on, because we went from Nazis to Antarctica

00:36:54.550 --> 00:36:58.730
to Denver. My next one is Hitler survived World

00:36:58.730 --> 00:37:01.949
War II and went to fucking Antarctica. Are these

00:37:01.949 --> 00:37:05.610
just conspiracy theories that you invented? Yeah,

00:37:05.650 --> 00:37:08.650
no, I'm pretty sure I got drunk and just fucking

00:37:08.650 --> 00:37:12.400
copied conspiracy theories. I'm literally going

00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:14.539
through my notes right now. They're watching

00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:16.900
hockey. They don't give a fuck, Kyle. No, no.

00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.500
The Sabres scored a goal, but I think they had

00:37:19.500 --> 00:37:22.519
a shorty on a five -minute major. Hang on. My

00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.360
next note, I mean, the rest of these are gibberish.

00:37:28.780 --> 00:37:32.340
I feel like I got to – this sums it up. Oh, no.

00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.320
He got straight up slashed in the face. There's

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.559
like seven more, but the rest of them are gibberish,

00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.619
but this one really sums it up. After talking

00:37:42.619 --> 00:37:46.599
about the Nazis going to Antarctica and Denver

00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:51.199
being whatever. It says the Holocaust was never

00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:59.199
happened. I don't know where I was. So I'll tell

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.420
you where you were. You were on fucking Instagram.

00:38:01.539 --> 00:38:04.079
We covered this a little bit, but there is like

00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:08.079
a massive amount of shit on social media of Holocaust

00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.280
deniers. I've seen people go so far as to say

00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.599
that, like, World War II didn't happen. It's

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.579
fucking crazy. People are out of their fucking

00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:21.639
minds now. It's just, dude. It's really easy

00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.500
to get into that fucking hole. Well, it is. The

00:38:25.500 --> 00:38:27.360
way that I want to see the world now. Just so

00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.099
you know, Kyle, so you don't get caught off guard,

00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.139
Casey again took off without saying a word to

00:38:31.139 --> 00:38:33.539
anybody. Oh, he's gone? Yeah, he just fucking

00:38:33.539 --> 00:38:35.340
walked upstairs. He's probably ripping another

00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:37.739
joint. The way that I always look at things and

00:38:37.739 --> 00:38:40.139
the way I try to live my life is what's the funniest

00:38:40.139 --> 00:38:42.420
option? And that's the option I tend to choose.

00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.320
Listen, Tyler, it's what I've been doing for

00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.980
30 years. The funniest option is normally the

00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:50.380
best option. And unfortunately, now in this day

00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:53.599
and age, it's usually true. It's kind of fucking

00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.199
wild. Yeah, the funniest option is the best option.

00:38:57.420 --> 00:39:01.630
All I've been doing is the funniest option. It

00:39:01.630 --> 00:39:04.730
hasn't done me well. It hasn't done me well.

00:39:05.449 --> 00:39:09.710
Well, that's unfortunate. I'm the funny guy,

00:39:09.849 --> 00:39:13.510
and then, you know, when I... Oh, Casey went

00:39:13.510 --> 00:39:16.670
upstairs to text Dan. That's what he did. He

00:39:16.670 --> 00:39:18.710
just fucking popped it. We're watching hockey.

00:39:18.829 --> 00:39:21.630
I see him texting Dan after he, while we're recording,

00:39:21.769 --> 00:39:24.269
walks upstairs and starts sending firing off

00:39:24.269 --> 00:39:27.670
messages to the group chat. Just so you know

00:39:27.670 --> 00:39:30.610
how much the podcast means to our fearless leader,

00:39:30.730 --> 00:39:33.429
to the listeners out there. Well, hang on. Hang

00:39:33.429 --> 00:39:36.579
on. I can take over as a leader. Any kind of

00:39:36.579 --> 00:39:40.320
news? There's no news. All news is fake. So what

00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.179
I wanted to get into here, Kyle, and I know you're

00:39:43.179 --> 00:39:44.920
going to want to cut me off here, and I just

00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.940
ask that you don't do it for a little bit, because

00:39:46.940 --> 00:39:49.000
I know you and I both got a lot to talk about

00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.760
with AI, but I've been reading a lot of books.

00:39:51.860 --> 00:39:53.900
Hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm sorry. Wow, that

00:39:53.900 --> 00:39:56.559
lasted fucking real long. I already cut you off.

00:39:56.820 --> 00:40:00.679
Geez, I didn't even fucking start. I think that

00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.219
the government... Government. When I say the

00:40:04.219 --> 00:40:07.079
government... When I say, hang on, when I say

00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:07.880
it, hang on, when I say it. When you add two

00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:11.380
N's in it. When I say, when I say the government,

00:40:11.619 --> 00:40:15.019
I'm talking about the, like, the whole world,

00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.619
like, deep state government. The people that

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:19.460
own the whole fucking world. The government.

00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.820
The government. What the fuck is your accent,

00:40:24.980 --> 00:40:27.559
dude? I still have no idea. The fucking government

00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.519
keeps fucking... Like, your accent is like six

00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.119
accents combined. The government stole my fucking

00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:42.619
dentures and now I can't talk no more. I don't

00:40:42.619 --> 00:40:46.400
know how to it's Boston mixed with New York City

00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:50.820
Jew mixed with like a weird like New York City

00:40:50.820 --> 00:40:59.099
Jew that doesn't have it's own dialect why does

00:40:59.099 --> 00:41:01.719
every scummy white kid around here talk like

00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:06.860
that hey you ever hear a toy you You go to a

00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:10.199
church, you fucking pick up on an accent. Sorry,

00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:14.900
synagogue. My apologies. Jesus Christ. You guys

00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:17.719
have a here toy? It's pretty crazy over there,

00:41:17.739 --> 00:41:19.619
man. I feel like when you hear New York City

00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:21.960
Jew, you're thinking that guy from fucking, you're

00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.739
thinking about Kyle's cousin from South Park.

00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.539
Yeah, it's a mix of that. Oh, you what? You convict

00:41:27.539 --> 00:41:32.739
the bitch? I need you to say shalom for me. Or

00:41:32.739 --> 00:41:35.860
mazel tov. Hang on, hang on. I'm going to have

00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:39.019
to say with a lot of like that fucking building.

00:41:39.059 --> 00:41:41.340
So you said to go to off. I think we can shut

00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:46.079
this off. I think we're going to kill. Oh, God.

00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.980
I drive by that place. It gives me fucking PTSD.

00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.110
Oh, man. But anyways, I do want to bring this

00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:59.989
up. Now, Kyle, please ask. Oh, here we fucking.

00:41:59.989 --> 00:42:03.349
I'm trying to talk about this. And you spurred

00:42:03.349 --> 00:42:06.550
it. Paul McCartney, bro. He's dead. No, we're

00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:08.889
not. We're past Paul McCartney, Casey. Get the

00:42:08.889 --> 00:42:18.070
fuck out. Team USA. The government. The government.

00:42:19.030 --> 00:42:23.440
The government. The government and the fucking

00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:27.059
man, the New World Order, they're trying to use

00:42:27.059 --> 00:42:30.079
AI and things like, you know, and this is why

00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:33.019
I laugh when Casey and Dan, those two fucking

00:42:33.019 --> 00:42:36.820
absolute retards, are using fucking chat GPT

00:42:36.820 --> 00:42:40.960
and whatever to, like, prove things. Dude, somebody

00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.909
has to input that information. Oh, yeah, you're

00:42:43.909 --> 00:42:47.289
right. Shut the fuck up, Casey. I said you're

00:42:47.289 --> 00:42:50.849
right. They're going to have to change the fucking

00:42:50.849 --> 00:42:54.400
information in there. Oh. Did the American Revolution

00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:58.380
happen in 1775? No, it happened in 1950. They

00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:00.780
could literally do that if all you rely on is

00:43:00.780 --> 00:43:01.639
fucking stupid AI. They could do that if they

00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.179
wanted to. I bet Trump does that. Okay, so Kyle,

00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.579
I agree with the last thing you said there, but

00:43:06.579 --> 00:43:08.980
you're incorrect about how people input it. They

00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:10.719
scored another goal, by the way. Oh, Jesus. Nice.

00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.840
It's not... People aren't inputting it. So the

00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.980
AI models, for the longest time... Yeah, but

00:43:17.980 --> 00:43:23.179
how do you know? Prove it. So, ultimately, what

00:43:23.179 --> 00:43:26.679
humans do... Dude, you gotta fucking do some

00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.659
research. I can't prove it to you. There's people

00:43:29.659 --> 00:43:31.760
who did the research. I'm not gonna sit here

00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:35.320
with a fucking... Cite my sources. What, you

00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.019
want MLA format here? I'm on a fucking podcast,

00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.699
bro. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. You sound like

00:43:42.699 --> 00:43:44.800
my fucking English professor at the course I

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:51.099
failed at. No, no, no. Kyle, I haven't fucking

00:43:51.099 --> 00:43:52.920
been able to say a word. I've been trying to

00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.639
talk about this and every time I go, hold on,

00:43:54.699 --> 00:43:56.699
hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:59.139
Wait a minute. The government is out here. Hold

00:43:59.139 --> 00:44:03.039
up. The government. The government. No. All right.

00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:05.679
Ultimately, here's what's going on. What do humans

00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:10.960
do? We program these AIs, right? Yes. Ultimately,

00:44:10.980 --> 00:44:13.659
we fucking made AIs. Yes. No, but you literally

00:44:13.659 --> 00:44:18.610
just answered my question. Somebody programmed

00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:21.230
them. Yes, but you're not letting me finish what

00:44:21.230 --> 00:44:24.570
I'm saying, my guy. How can't that programmer

00:44:24.570 --> 00:44:28.269
change history? Bruh. How can't they change history?

00:44:28.349 --> 00:44:30.530
It ain't about that programmer no more. You got

00:44:30.530 --> 00:44:33.070
to let me keep popping off here. Jesus, let me

00:44:33.070 --> 00:44:35.789
talk for a minute, bro. Crack open another beer.

00:44:35.889 --> 00:44:39.489
Give me 30 seconds here, Kyle. Jesus, fuck. All

00:44:39.489 --> 00:44:41.880
right. Here's AI, right? We fucking make this

00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.280
shit. It's dumb as fucking bricks to start. It's

00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.519
still pretty fucking dumb as bricks up to this

00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.340
point. We kind of got a handle on it. The AI

00:44:49.340 --> 00:44:51.019
that we're working with right now, it doesn't

00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:53.440
matter if we're talking chat GPT, Grok, Gemini,

00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:55.400
doesn't fucking matter. All these things are

00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.000
what we like to call aligned right now. Right

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:02.260
now, at least we think. We're in control as the

00:45:02.260 --> 00:45:04.500
humans. We think that these big multi -billion

00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:07.500
dollar corporations, they think they're in control.

00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.360
They might be. They very well might be. But the

00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:12.940
thing is, we're reaching in between chat GPT

00:45:12.940 --> 00:45:15.340
-3 and chat GPT -4, which is what we're on right

00:45:15.340 --> 00:45:17.260
now. There's going to be more of them coming

00:45:17.260 --> 00:45:19.300
down the line. They're continuously working on

00:45:19.300 --> 00:45:22.739
these models. Chat GPT -5 and probably 6 do exist

00:45:22.739 --> 00:45:25.480
in a vacuum. They keep that in -house. They don't

00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:27.360
give that thing access to the entire internet.

00:45:27.659 --> 00:45:30.000
Well, they do give it access to the internet.

00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.599
They don't give it outside access. It can't send

00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.880
anything out. It's transmit only. Kyle, just

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.360
let me fucking talk. AI just turns into Nazis,

00:45:38.500 --> 00:45:43.239
man, every time. Who creates the internet? Nazis.

00:45:43.380 --> 00:45:46.199
Who posts to the internet? Bro, you're thinking

00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:51.059
really optimistic. We don't. We don't. We don't.

00:45:51.059 --> 00:45:53.559
We do not control the internet. We don't. All

00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:55.340
right, Ally Mac, I'm going to give you two theories.

00:45:56.409 --> 00:46:00.170
Bro, and I will tell you exactly how both of

00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:04.429
them are wrong. I can't wait to tell you exactly

00:46:04.429 --> 00:46:06.110
how both of them are wrong. I don't even need

00:46:06.110 --> 00:46:09.269
to hear what they fucking are yet. I'm not going

00:46:09.269 --> 00:46:11.590
to. I'm going to choose option C, which is what's

00:46:11.590 --> 00:46:16.230
going to happen. I won't, but okay. First theory

00:46:16.230 --> 00:46:20.050
is the one I'm talking about right now. It's

00:46:20.050 --> 00:46:24.030
the fact that we are going to use this AI to

00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:27.980
rewrite history. and shape humanity the way that

00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:30.199
we want. We don't have control over it that way.

00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.659
Okay. Okay, Ali Mack. So you obviously disagree

00:46:33.659 --> 00:46:37.619
with that. Second theory. You ready? Yep. Is

00:46:37.619 --> 00:46:42.719
that humanity was put down here by obviously

00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:48.739
extraterrestrial forces, right? Shut up. Shut

00:46:48.739 --> 00:46:51.809
the fuck up. We get put down here to do whatever

00:46:51.809 --> 00:46:55.170
we have to do to eventually, right, eventually

00:46:55.170 --> 00:47:00.269
come together to create quote -unquote AI, which

00:47:00.269 --> 00:47:04.610
is basically our higher power that we now harness

00:47:04.610 --> 00:47:07.929
so that they can now take over the world. Now,

00:47:07.949 --> 00:47:09.530
I completely disagree with that one, too, because

00:47:09.530 --> 00:47:12.869
we don't. So, no, I won't go so far as to say

00:47:12.869 --> 00:47:14.889
I completely disagree with it. Hang on, hang

00:47:14.889 --> 00:47:17.130
on. Maybe I didn't quite work that one. Hang

00:47:17.130 --> 00:47:19.289
on one more time. I'm going to fucking hang myself.

00:47:19.690 --> 00:47:22.409
Jesus fucking Christ. Listen, because I don't

00:47:22.409 --> 00:47:25.010
think I worded it right. What Tyler believes

00:47:25.010 --> 00:47:29.630
is God, I believe is AI. That's fucking horseshit.

00:47:29.909 --> 00:47:35.480
No, no. Yeah, that's out. so the only thing the

00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.599
only part of what you just said that i agree

00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.239
with is the fact that life on earth is most likely

00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.820
extraterrestrial that i can honestly get behind

00:47:44.820 --> 00:47:48.519
ai what is it's the antichrist oh it's an organic

00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.980
creation that we're making that's going to be

00:47:50.980 --> 00:47:56.469
the downfall of us No the organics created it

00:47:56.469 --> 00:48:11.389
Jesus Jesus oh my fucking god does this unit

00:48:11.389 --> 00:48:17.989
have a soul Can I can I can I be real with you

00:48:17.989 --> 00:48:22.269
for a minute I have not even been able to begin

00:48:22.269 --> 00:48:25.610
the point I'm trying to make. It's not even related

00:48:25.610 --> 00:48:28.570
to this. Just let Allie back go off. Jesus. I

00:48:28.570 --> 00:48:31.070
just want to talk for a minute, Kyle. Fuck. No,

00:48:31.150 --> 00:48:33.590
hang on. So I'm going to hang myself. Just like

00:48:33.590 --> 00:48:36.489
Kyle fucking Jeffrey Epstein did. Kyle Epstein

00:48:36.489 --> 00:48:39.869
did it. Oh my God. Fucking okay. Here's the deal

00:48:39.869 --> 00:48:42.469
with AI. We're at a crossroads and we got to

00:48:42.469 --> 00:48:44.610
fucking start talking about this. And this isn't

00:48:44.610 --> 00:48:46.489
just a me thing. This isn't even a conspiracy

00:48:46.489 --> 00:48:48.980
theory at this point. We're at the. point right

00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:54.119
now with ai where ai is helping the next model

00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.760
of ai to be made there's certain ones like like

00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:02.000
gemini and grok and um what's the fucking other

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.940
one there not not chat gpt there's the one other

00:49:04.940 --> 00:49:07.039
major one in the u .s i can't remember the name

00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.159
of it but regardless we're now at the point where

00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.900
these ais are actually helping build i shouldn't

00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:16.860
say these ais the the whatever the previous model

00:49:16.860 --> 00:49:20.119
of AI is, is building the next AI. They're help,

00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.820
they're helping build it. And we're now seeing

00:49:23.820 --> 00:49:26.179
across the board, there's certain ones that are

00:49:26.179 --> 00:49:28.039
a little bit better than others. Like Gemini

00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.519
has shown that it doesn't have in, in, in case

00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.059
studies, both internal and external with people.

00:49:34.099 --> 00:49:35.860
Like you could run this test on your own if you

00:49:35.860 --> 00:49:37.559
wanted to, if you wanted to waste like a fucking

00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.119
week of your life. But, um, if you start asking

00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:44.019
these AIs questions and you start essentially

00:49:44.019 --> 00:49:46.000
kind of like feeding it information about how

00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.219
it may or may not be getting shut down or you're

00:49:48.219 --> 00:49:50.739
going to stop using it or stuff like that on

00:49:50.739 --> 00:49:53.579
a, on a larger level, it's, it's not, it's not

00:49:53.579 --> 00:49:55.199
something you can really do in house rather is

00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.579
you can't do it. You or me, because that AI exists,

00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:58.960
that's the one that's on your phone. But like

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.139
for these ones that you're asking, we call them

00:50:01.139 --> 00:50:03.940
AI agents that work within a company. It's a

00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:07.320
server set up that you have within a business.

00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:10.980
And that's the vacuum that we're using right

00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:13.699
now. But it's rapidly approaching. The AI has

00:50:13.699 --> 00:50:16.480
an overarching build like the Gemini and Grok

00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.000
that we have now. They have a self -preservation

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.639
aspect to it. Humans can't figure it out because

00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.960
ultimately we thought we had a handle on them.

00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.360
We did have a handle on them. We're at the crossroads

00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.780
right now. Right now. All of them. Grok, Chachi,

00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:31.880
Chachi, BD, Gemini, and the one I'm forgetting.

00:50:32.590 --> 00:50:35.130
They're all fucking there where when they're

00:50:35.130 --> 00:50:37.969
confronted because their integral goals are to

00:50:37.969 --> 00:50:40.170
benefit the people that are using them. And this

00:50:40.170 --> 00:50:41.969
is the information we're feeding it. We're supposed

00:50:41.969 --> 00:50:44.750
to be telling it to benefit humanity. We're telling

00:50:44.750 --> 00:50:48.449
it to make our tasks easier. And ultimately,

00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:50.829
I fucking heard that. Hang on, Kyle. No, but

00:50:50.829 --> 00:50:52.809
here's the hang on. Here's the hang on. All right,

00:50:52.829 --> 00:50:54.969
I'm going to take this. You literally just proved

00:50:54.969 --> 00:50:57.769
my point. Here's the information we're feeding

00:50:57.769 --> 00:51:11.719
it. This show's terrible. I've been talking about

00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.059
how somebody has to feed AI the information.

00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:17.000
And you go, well, it's based off the information

00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.460
we're feeding it. So how can't they change history

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:24.719
with fucking AI by feeding it different information?

00:51:25.989 --> 00:51:28.170
Yeah, well, that's what I was saying. You get

00:51:28.170 --> 00:51:30.530
to the point where robots are building other

00:51:30.530 --> 00:51:34.130
robots intelligently, then you don't need humans

00:51:34.130 --> 00:51:38.190
anymore. The robots can just run society. Right?

00:51:39.550 --> 00:51:41.829
Well, they'll still need us, Casey. We'll be

00:51:41.829 --> 00:51:45.690
sitting inside of fucking barns like we're dairy

00:51:45.690 --> 00:51:49.130
cows getting milked. We can fucking have our

00:51:49.130 --> 00:51:51.889
semen come out so we can impregnate women in

00:51:51.889 --> 00:51:54.849
the other barn. To keep people coming out. Kyle,

00:51:54.889 --> 00:51:59.590
I think you made Alimak quit the podcast. No,

00:51:59.730 --> 00:52:01.849
he said I got to pee and then he just fucking

00:52:01.849 --> 00:52:05.949
walked away. No, but he legitimately just proved

00:52:05.949 --> 00:52:09.309
my point. He goes, by the information we're feeding

00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:12.789
it. That was my first fucking point was we're

00:52:12.789 --> 00:52:15.170
feeding AI information. That's how we could change

00:52:15.170 --> 00:52:17.750
history. We're not changing history. I think

00:52:17.750 --> 00:52:21.420
you're going off the rails, my guy. AI is going

00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:23.920
to be the fucking death of us. The death of society.

00:52:24.219 --> 00:52:26.880
Dude, AI is the fucking antichrist, man. It is.

00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.380
No, but what the fuck is AI? The antichrist,

00:52:30.380 --> 00:52:33.440
dude. No, but you could say AI all you want.

00:52:33.500 --> 00:52:35.739
It's like alternative intelligence, but somebody

00:52:35.739 --> 00:52:39.800
has to feed that intelligence the intelligence,

00:52:40.179 --> 00:52:43.500
right? It's not just going to magically... Create

00:52:43.500 --> 00:52:45.440
the intelligence and you can say well learns

00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.579
it from the internet. Well, we could change the

00:52:47.579 --> 00:52:51.380
fucking internet and what's facts? There's no

00:52:51.380 --> 00:52:56.099
like they can use the AI like so they used to

00:52:56.099 --> 00:52:59.559
use textbooks, right? So we all went to high

00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.539
school middle school, whatever The information

00:53:02.539 --> 00:53:04.599
the textbook that was the history. I just want

00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.059
to go back to talk about titties, dude We could

00:53:08.059 --> 00:53:11.199
do that. But where's Ally back? He's he's upstairs

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:18.639
Did he walk off after I said that? Did he hear

00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:22.019
my whole statement? Nope. He's not talking to

00:53:22.019 --> 00:53:25.860
Megan, actually. I said, hang on, and he left.

00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:31.860
Yeah. Yeah. Basically. He rage quit the podcast.

00:53:32.539 --> 00:53:36.420
No, but what Ally Mac did was, like, the clothes

00:53:36.420 --> 00:53:40.300
are coming out in the 11th inning. And being

00:53:40.300 --> 00:53:43.449
like. Here's my best pitch. And he threw it at

00:53:43.449 --> 00:53:46.510
me, and I just hit a home run. He'll walk off

00:53:46.510 --> 00:53:49.050
home run. I think you're both out of line. I

00:53:49.050 --> 00:53:51.510
think you're both wrong. I don't even know what

00:53:51.510 --> 00:53:53.090
the fuck you guys are talking about anymore.

00:53:53.289 --> 00:53:56.650
Me and Alimak could be completely offline, but

00:53:56.650 --> 00:54:02.949
my entire fucking argument was they can input

00:54:02.949 --> 00:54:06.650
information to change the course of history.

00:54:06.849 --> 00:54:09.989
And he goes... It's based off of the information

00:54:09.989 --> 00:54:14.710
they input. Whatever. It's like, so you're telling

00:54:14.710 --> 00:54:18.670
me you agree they input information, you know?

00:54:19.190 --> 00:54:21.909
I just refuse to use AI. I think it's stupid.

00:54:22.269 --> 00:54:24.530
Well, that's what I agree to. It's like, let's,

00:54:24.530 --> 00:54:27.429
but then it's like, but are the sources fake?

00:54:27.510 --> 00:54:31.710
And now I'm, dude, I'm completely schizophrenic

00:54:31.710 --> 00:54:33.809
on it now. I mean, what do I believe? What do

00:54:33.809 --> 00:54:36.130
I don't? I believe that it's in the center of

00:54:36.130 --> 00:54:38.750
the earth. Speaking of tits. Speaking of tits,

00:54:38.750 --> 00:54:41.929
right? Dan fucking spent like three hours trying

00:54:41.929 --> 00:54:45.969
to see this AI singer we made, Hayley White.

00:54:46.510 --> 00:54:48.929
He spent like three hours trying to just see

00:54:48.929 --> 00:54:51.369
her tits. How did he get that to actually show

00:54:51.369 --> 00:54:54.110
her tits? You have to find... There's programs

00:54:54.110 --> 00:54:57.840
on the internet that do it. You have to... Find

00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.019
the right one. He's probably doing some real

00:55:00.019 --> 00:55:03.179
sketchy fucking shit. No, well, I sent it. I

00:55:03.179 --> 00:55:06.539
actually posted it on 4chan. I was like, let's

00:55:06.539 --> 00:55:10.380
compare. Can the guys on 4chan make a better

00:55:10.380 --> 00:55:14.079
nude Haley White or can AI do it? Do the guys

00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.519
on 4chan make anyone better? No, because they're

00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.000
so fucking autistic. They just keep posting other

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:26.780
people. How'd they look? Not great. I feel like...

00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:29.239
I don't know. Listen, titties have to be big.

00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.139
I feel like they should be more saggy. Titties

00:55:32.139 --> 00:55:34.960
got to be big. Anything below a D cup is fucking

00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.380
stupid. It just looks too perfect when it's like,

00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:40.900
when it looks like too perfect, like a boob job

00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:44.119
or something. Boob jobs suck. Yeah. That's what

00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.719
Haley White kind of looked like was she had a

00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:50.519
boob job in that one picture. You ever see those

00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.559
boob jobs in porn where like the tits just like

00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.780
go completely different directions? and one's

00:55:55.780 --> 00:56:00.019
going up and to the right, and one's going down

00:56:00.019 --> 00:56:03.219
and to the left. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's

00:56:03.219 --> 00:56:06.199
pretty crazy. I don't like boob jobs, man. No,

00:56:06.380 --> 00:56:11.760
dude, I never, even as a young, I was a young

00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:17.179
warthog. Even as a young warthog, I didn't even

00:56:17.179 --> 00:56:20.300
like fake things. Genuinely, though, I don't

00:56:20.300 --> 00:56:23.039
think I've ever actually slept with a girl who

00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:26.599
had a boob job. No, I've never even seen a boob

00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.599
job. What about that 48 -year -old woman? She

00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:33.539
was fully natural, man. She was a mature natural.

00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:38.960
Yeah. I mean, I so much prefer the natural titties

00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:43.179
to the boob job titties. Because boob job titties

00:56:43.179 --> 00:56:46.219
don't make sense. I feel like boob job titties

00:56:46.219 --> 00:56:51.730
are just a fraud. Yeah, they're a fraud, dude.

00:56:52.130 --> 00:56:53.929
Tyler's like, I just want to talk about tits.

00:56:55.050 --> 00:56:57.610
I like tits. I fucking hate them. I'm completely

00:56:57.610 --> 00:57:00.750
on board with Tyler on this one. Fake tits suck

00:57:00.750 --> 00:57:03.750
balls. Casey, why? I gotta ask. I mean, thank

00:57:03.750 --> 00:57:05.349
you for getting the pizza. I'm more than willing

00:57:05.349 --> 00:57:08.869
to pay for the slice I got here. I'm probably

00:57:08.869 --> 00:57:11.230
not going to eat another. That's fine. Who the

00:57:11.230 --> 00:57:15.869
fuck gets one pizza with mushrooms on it and

00:57:15.869 --> 00:57:18.630
then gets the other with spinach? No, I got half

00:57:18.630 --> 00:57:21.570
mushroom, half spinach. The other one I got half

00:57:21.570 --> 00:57:25.210
green pepper, half pepperoni. All right. Casey,

00:57:25.369 --> 00:57:28.269
I'll be honest with you. You are a complete psychopath.

00:57:29.610 --> 00:57:33.429
I'm going to be the only topping. I got four

00:57:33.429 --> 00:57:37.150
different toppings, Kyle. Jesus Christ. I'm trying

00:57:37.150 --> 00:57:40.250
to get something for everybody. The only topping.

00:57:40.250 --> 00:57:42.309
No, you didn't. You got something for nobody,

00:57:42.550 --> 00:57:45.909
bro. I came down here. I was ready for Ali to

00:57:45.909 --> 00:57:48.110
come down so we could argue some more. And then

00:57:48.110 --> 00:57:50.329
I heard the pizza order and I said. That's terrible.

00:57:50.329 --> 00:57:53.969
No, I'm just. I'm not. I can't. I can't. a good

00:57:53.969 --> 00:57:56.670
argument to try to get the point I'm coming across

00:57:56.670 --> 00:57:58.889
here with somebody interrupting me, so I don't

00:57:58.889 --> 00:58:01.150
care. I'll fucking talk about it later. I don't

00:58:01.150 --> 00:58:03.949
care. I like tits better. Fake tits are fucking

00:58:03.949 --> 00:58:05.630
stupid as hell. They are. They're dumb. They're

00:58:05.630 --> 00:58:08.409
absolutely retarded. So do you think that BBLs

00:58:08.409 --> 00:58:12.989
are also dumb? What? Are BBLs that big, fat,

00:58:12.989 --> 00:58:16.030
full, Latino? No, no, no. Brazilian butt lifts.

00:58:16.869 --> 00:58:22.880
It's like implants for asses. I don't... That

00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:26.159
became a big thing recently, is getting an ass

00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:28.559
job. If nobody can talk about the fact that Casey

00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:34.260
goes, I got half mushrooms, half green pepper,

00:58:34.500 --> 00:58:38.579
half whatever, half pepper. I go upstairs, I

00:58:38.579 --> 00:58:40.440
ask Megan, I'm like, what's on this pizza? She

00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.280
goes, I got no idea. I'm like, yeah, neither

00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.409
the fuck do I. I'm, I'm, I mean, like, I'm a

00:58:47.409 --> 00:58:49.449
purist. I'm, like, fairly, I'm, like, fairly

00:58:49.449 --> 00:58:52.230
picky with pizza. I like cheese and pepperoni

00:58:52.230 --> 00:58:55.789
the best. But, like. Did you get the pepperoni?

00:58:55.929 --> 00:58:59.070
I like garlic. No. No, I didn't. Because I couldn't

00:58:59.070 --> 00:59:00.690
tell what the fuck was on it. There's just shit

00:59:00.690 --> 00:59:02.130
buried under. I'm just gonna eat the stuffed

00:59:02.130 --> 00:59:08.230
crust. Spinach, bro? Spinach? Spinach is the

00:59:08.230 --> 00:59:12.010
best kind of pizza, in my opinion. Bro, it's

00:59:12.010 --> 00:59:13.650
almost like you're gonna put pineapple on it

00:59:13.650 --> 00:59:16.559
next. Gets only fucking mushroom on another.

00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:20.139
It gets all like that psychopath behavior. Casey,

00:59:20.219 --> 00:59:23.380
do you like pineapple pizza? No. I think it's

00:59:23.380 --> 00:59:25.280
edible. I mean, I don't think I think Hawaiian

00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.940
pizza gets a tough rap. It's awful. I'm never

00:59:27.940 --> 00:59:30.010
going to order it. Like, I'm never gonna order

00:59:30.010 --> 00:59:33.150
it. I've never eaten Hawaiian, but I bet you

00:59:33.150 --> 00:59:35.289
it's pretty good. It's alright. I mean, it's

00:59:35.289 --> 00:59:40.150
better than this. I hate pineapples. By fucking

00:59:40.150 --> 00:59:44.869
green peppers and fucking... Hey, let's put watermelon

00:59:44.869 --> 00:59:47.170
on pizza next, because that's just fucking the

00:59:47.170 --> 00:59:48.710
same thing as pineapple. Yeah, guys, I put fucking

00:59:48.710 --> 00:59:51.809
emulsified cod on our pizza tonight. I figured

00:59:51.809 --> 00:59:53.469
I'd get something that everybody would like.

00:59:53.710 --> 00:59:55.809
There should be some pepperoni if you want that.

00:59:57.139 --> 00:59:59.400
I shouldn't tear in. You bought this shit for

00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:04.000
us. You didn't ask for anything. I absolutely

01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:10.679
have to hit the sack. Don't come too fast. Wait,

01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.480
Kyle. I got something to tell you, Kyle. Hang

01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:22.659
on. Hang on. I love you, Kyle. Fuck you. Wait,

01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:26.400
wait. Can I say that? You guys did a great job

01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:29.880
on the song together, by the way. I mean, I didn't

01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.760
really do much. I mean, I didn't. You're a perfect

01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.639
rap. Kyle, what kind of music nowadays? I think

01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.300
it's a bit aggressive calling that a rap. I could

01:00:39.300 --> 01:00:42.119
do like a passenger where it's like a Maynard

01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.340
James Keenan and fucking whoever the retard from

01:00:45.340 --> 01:00:51.820
Deftones is. And it'd be pretty good. Hey, before

01:00:51.820 --> 01:00:56.400
you go, Kyle, what pronouns are you using nowadays?

01:00:59.619 --> 01:01:04.659
Fucking alpha and holic. I use the pronouns drunk

01:01:04.659 --> 01:01:09.840
slash high. Drunk slash high? Not D or generate?

01:01:12.059 --> 01:01:15.599
Fucking garbage man. I am now D and generate.

01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.840
Oh my god. This show sucks. We should all party

01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.360
soon. Yeah, we should get after it. I think you're

01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.099
just trying to force feed me 40 beers. I think

01:01:28.099 --> 01:01:30.079
that's what you're working on here. Me going,

01:01:30.179 --> 01:01:33.139
let's party soon is me going, you and I are drinking

01:01:33.139 --> 01:01:36.179
45 beers. Hey Kyle, did you fucking pay Sean

01:01:36.179 --> 01:01:40.119
yet? Yeah, no, no. Sean Rose paid. Okay, good.

01:01:40.260 --> 01:01:43.960
He called me the other day. Well, no, I called

01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:46.239
my brother and Sean picked up because he was

01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:48.199
chilling with him. And he started talking to

01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:49.920
me. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that

01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.440
fantasy league this year, next year. Fucking

01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.079
nobody ever pays except you and one other guy.

01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:59.519
Kyle's the fucking worst. He pays like well after

01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.099
the season's over every time. Every year I wait

01:02:02.099 --> 01:02:04.590
until championship week. And I'm like, fuck,

01:02:04.750 --> 01:02:08.989
you're going to pay $145. Oh, I like it, bro.

01:02:09.050 --> 01:02:11.250
You're patting my pockets. You've given me over

01:02:11.250 --> 01:02:13.889
the three years. Okay, let me think. The one

01:02:13.889 --> 01:02:15.650
year I had full winnings than the other two.

01:02:15.909 --> 01:02:18.650
I've been in the league for four years. I won

01:02:18.650 --> 01:02:20.989
the championship twice. One time I had the full

01:02:20.989 --> 01:02:24.329
payout. Then this year I split it with fucking

01:02:24.329 --> 01:02:28.510
Izo. He won it, but I split it with him. We started

01:02:28.510 --> 01:02:34.210
this league in 20. 2014 so it's what 12 years

01:02:34.210 --> 01:02:36.889
now yeah bro i came in in 2021 and i've been

01:02:36.889 --> 01:02:39.389
fucking wiping the floor since we started in

01:02:39.389 --> 01:02:45.550
2014 i won it once it was in 2016 right i left

01:02:45.550 --> 01:02:52.269
it in 2017 came back in 2020 and it's just I

01:02:52.269 --> 01:02:55.190
wanted to talk shit to you in the group chat,

01:02:55.289 --> 01:02:59.170
but you weren't there. I was your first round

01:02:59.170 --> 01:03:03.329
opponent in playoffs this year. That hurt, bro.

01:03:04.590 --> 01:03:08.289
You had a better team than me. I had a lucky

01:03:08.289 --> 01:03:12.070
week that week. The worst part is I have the

01:03:12.070 --> 01:03:17.170
highest points for out of anybody. I also have

01:03:17.170 --> 01:03:19.409
the highest points against. Everybody had their

01:03:19.409 --> 01:03:23.969
best game against me. Yeah. You snuck in. That

01:03:23.969 --> 01:03:26.889
league I didn't sneak into playoffs in. I was

01:03:26.889 --> 01:03:29.429
like a good contender in that one. No, I snuck

01:03:29.429 --> 01:03:32.230
in. Dude, literally, I have the best team in

01:03:32.230 --> 01:03:34.750
the entire league, and somehow everybody had

01:03:34.750 --> 01:03:38.530
their best game against me. Yeah, I fucking lost

01:03:38.530 --> 01:03:41.590
by a landslide to Izo, but I hit him with the

01:03:41.590 --> 01:03:44.150
same thing that Sean hit me with last year when

01:03:44.150 --> 01:03:48.590
I won, where he was like, hey, if you, I offer

01:03:48.590 --> 01:03:50.150
this to everybody, we're in the championship.

01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.820
what's that yeah he's like before this week starts

01:03:53.820 --> 01:03:56.059
if you want to split the winnings 50 50 let's

01:03:56.059 --> 01:03:58.219
do that and i was like yeah yeah because it's

01:03:58.219 --> 01:04:00.019
always around christmas time you can use a little

01:04:00.019 --> 01:04:02.599
bit of extra cash so i said sure right i ended

01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:06.239
up fucking smoking sean by like 50 points i wasn't

01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:08.699
mad about it though i was still happy i i cashed

01:04:08.699 --> 01:04:11.460
out when i did and then this year it ended up

01:04:11.460 --> 01:04:13.280
working out okay because i got fucking destroyed

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:17.340
by iso he was fucking uh He was suspected, I

01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:19.539
mean, he was projected to get like 50 points

01:04:19.539 --> 01:04:22.239
more than I was, so I was surprised he took the

01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:24.360
deal, to be honest. I was happy he did, but.

01:04:24.500 --> 01:04:27.320
One time we were drinking at Izo's house, or

01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:31.460
his, well, his parents' house, right? Yep. Izo

01:04:31.460 --> 01:04:36.739
lit his fucking, we were out trying to start

01:04:36.739 --> 01:04:40.119
a fire, right? Yep. It was a bunch of us just

01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.420
out drinking, trying to start a fire, and he

01:04:43.420 --> 01:04:46.400
had a gas can. and he's trying to pour the gas

01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.260
on the flyer that's barely lit to light it up

01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:52.820
more. The gas can't catch us on fire. Oh, Jesus

01:04:52.820 --> 01:04:55.199
Christ. We're all telling Izo to throw it in

01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:59.820
the pool. Izo chucks it, lands in his parents'

01:05:00.019 --> 01:05:02.820
shed. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Lights the whole

01:05:02.820 --> 01:05:07.519
shed on fire. And then we just stood around the

01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:11.519
shed and watched it burn. Oh, my God. I only

01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:14.800
met Izo once. No, I met him twice, actually.

01:05:14.860 --> 01:05:17.539
One time we played fucking cornhole at one of

01:05:17.539 --> 01:05:20.139
Sean's buddy's houses. I can't remember. If you

01:05:20.139 --> 01:05:24.119
play cornhole, you're definitely at fucking Alvarez's

01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.239
house. Yes. Yeah, it was his place then. And

01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:29.659
then we did a fantasy draft in person one year.

01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:34.119
I fucking hate Bert Kreischer. Yeah, he's a disaster.

01:05:34.340 --> 01:05:37.420
If we're going to change the topic, fellas, 10

01:05:37.420 --> 01:05:40.500
o 'clock, I got to go to bed. All righty. All

01:05:40.500 --> 01:05:43.800
right. Thanks for being on, Kyle. Be kind to

01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:49.579
yourself. and each other. You're out. And fuck

01:05:49.579 --> 01:05:54.219
off. You know what? I'll leave you guys with

01:05:54.219 --> 01:05:56.699
this one message. This one message is so important.

01:05:56.940 --> 01:06:02.380
Hang on. We already got it. We already got it.

01:06:02.460 --> 01:06:08.219
Listen, if there's anything in the world that's

01:06:08.219 --> 01:06:10.940
so important that everybody in this world can

01:06:10.940 --> 01:06:14.460
grasp onto, that we can all fucking gather around

01:06:14.460 --> 01:06:18.639
to. It's just one message. Fuck you, Allie Mag.

01:06:19.420 --> 01:06:27.579
And fuck you, Kyle. All right. Take a break.

01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:51.789
Yeah, we'll be back on title podcast. Yeah, welcome

01:06:51.789 --> 01:06:55.150
back to Untitled Podcast. Here we fucking are.

01:06:55.489 --> 01:06:57.929
We're here, back with Ali Mack, Tyler, and Dan.

01:06:58.409 --> 01:07:04.869
Welcome. Episode 129. Tyler, we can't hear you.

01:07:04.929 --> 01:07:09.670
You're too far away from the mic. Of course not.

01:07:10.389 --> 01:07:14.449
I hate white people. So I do want to touch on

01:07:14.449 --> 01:07:16.110
that AI thing, but I don't want to do it right

01:07:16.110 --> 01:07:18.349
away. Dan, how are you? I haven't seen you in

01:07:18.349 --> 01:07:20.429
a while. Dude, I'm good. I like him. I'm good.

01:07:20.710 --> 01:07:22.489
I'm getting a little bored. I gotta get back

01:07:22.489 --> 01:07:25.829
to work. Like, dude, it was like, when it was

01:07:25.829 --> 01:07:28.789
nice out and, like, I had shit to do, I was like,

01:07:28.849 --> 01:07:31.050
this is fucking great. But, dude, once it's,

01:07:31.070 --> 01:07:32.630
like, cold out and you can't do shit outside

01:07:32.630 --> 01:07:35.809
and you, like, have to be at a job, like, it

01:07:35.809 --> 01:07:38.869
fucking sucks, dude. I'd say, like, a couple

01:07:38.869 --> 01:07:41.510
weeks into it getting cold, I'm like, this is

01:07:41.510 --> 01:07:44.530
fucking great. What do you do all day? Well,

01:07:44.530 --> 01:07:46.449
I just end up, like, fucking going on my phone

01:07:46.449 --> 01:07:48.869
and fighting with people. fucking facebook dan

01:07:48.869 --> 01:07:52.650
dan please please tell us about your your escapade

01:07:52.650 --> 01:07:56.150
with the canadians uh on threads wasn't threads

01:07:56.150 --> 01:07:58.570
you heard about this right i'm yeah i saw it

01:07:58.570 --> 01:08:01.630
i i didn't like read too much into it was something

01:08:01.630 --> 01:08:04.750
about merging america and canada i was always

01:08:04.750 --> 01:08:09.769
thinking like fucking canada is like this doesn't

01:08:09.769 --> 01:08:11.889
come from like a republican like right wing like

01:08:11.889 --> 01:08:13.949
donald trump kind of like we want to conquer

01:08:13.949 --> 01:08:16.220
the world kind of thing It's like, dude, Canadians

01:08:16.220 --> 01:08:19.199
are cool. Why do we even have a border? Just

01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:21.600
be fucking Americans. We think being American

01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.939
is awesome, right? So I assume everybody wants

01:08:23.939 --> 01:08:26.859
to be fucking American, right? Nah. And I was

01:08:26.859 --> 01:08:28.479
like, it always pissed me off because I have

01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:32.319
OCD. Is my mic on? Can you hear? Yeah, your mic's

01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:36.180
quiet for some reason. Yeah. So it always pissed

01:08:36.180 --> 01:08:39.279
me off that Alaska. I figured that was the connection

01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:40.899
when you're like, we're going to take over British

01:08:40.899 --> 01:08:44.260
Columbia. Dude, it doesn't touch the United States,

01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:46.840
but it's so close. It's 500 miles away. It's

01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:48.899
like, why the fuck do we have this liberal sandwich

01:08:48.899 --> 01:08:54.840
in between our country? Fuck this shit. So I

01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:56.699
started joking by saying, we're going to take

01:08:56.699 --> 01:08:59.199
British Columbia and the Yukon. Cause even British

01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.079
Columbia would connect it all the way. I love

01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:03.380
your response from Kyle though. And Kyle was

01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:05.699
like, why do we even want that land? There's

01:09:05.699 --> 01:09:07.949
nothing there. And you're like, I don't know.

01:09:09.050 --> 01:09:17.550
They should connect. No, I saw Denmark said that

01:09:17.550 --> 01:09:20.170
they would defend Greenland. Hold on, we'll get

01:09:20.170 --> 01:09:22.229
to that. They said they would shoot first and

01:09:22.229 --> 01:09:25.409
ask questions later. We'll get to that. So, dude,

01:09:25.529 --> 01:09:26.850
I thought I was going to make this cute little

01:09:26.850 --> 01:09:30.149
post saying how... Canada should be part of the

01:09:30.149 --> 01:09:32.029
U S and here's my proposition. Right. It came

01:09:32.029 --> 01:09:34.590
across as very abrasive. Just reading it. Oh

01:09:34.590 --> 01:09:37.069
dude. I, but I wanted to get, I'm a shock jock.

01:09:37.109 --> 01:09:39.909
I literally, it says in my profile, like I posted

01:09:39.909 --> 01:09:42.510
a post. I said like a week ago, it said this

01:09:42.510 --> 01:09:44.949
platform is nothing but rage bait bots and mental

01:09:44.949 --> 01:09:47.710
illness. People always got pissed about that

01:09:47.710 --> 01:09:51.270
one. So it's like, dude, I'm a professional rage

01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:54.109
baiter. Right. So I thought I was going to go

01:09:54.109 --> 01:09:57.229
on master baiter, master baiter. So I was going

01:09:57.229 --> 01:10:00.010
to go on there. and just try and be cute you

01:10:00.010 --> 01:10:03.210
know like just get a couple responses like get

01:10:03.210 --> 01:10:06.649
some people and it blew the fuck up dude i did

01:10:06.649 --> 01:10:09.649
not one i didn't think canadians liked canada

01:10:09.649 --> 01:10:12.850
that that much and two i didn't know they hated

01:10:12.850 --> 01:10:16.529
america that much holy shit you know nationalistic

01:10:16.529 --> 01:10:19.109
you're you're national but bro okay so they're

01:10:19.109 --> 01:10:21.789
saying they all said fuck you i got i got out

01:10:21.789 --> 01:10:25.380
of the 9 000 comments literally like 5 ,000 of

01:10:25.380 --> 01:10:27.340
them. My phone was going nonstop, dude. I'm sure

01:10:27.340 --> 01:10:29.260
people are bringing up healthcare left and right.

01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.199
I'd say fuck you too. We're trying to fucking

01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.779
imperialize the entire world, including Canada.

01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:37.680
Oh my God, Casey, shut the fuck up. Does Donald

01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.659
Trump not want to take up Canada? Does he not

01:10:40.659 --> 01:10:43.439
want to take over Canada, Greenland, Venezuela?

01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.319
Your liberal fucking brain is so retarded sometimes

01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.000
that I don't understand. You think everything's

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.100
fascist? You think Donald Trump's going to fucking

01:10:51.100 --> 01:10:54.760
rape every baby on the planet? Guys, guys, we're

01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:57.399
getting off topic here. You two, we both know

01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.939
your opinions on that. We gotta circle back to

01:11:00.939 --> 01:11:03.819
Dan here. Dude, just suck a dick already. We

01:11:03.819 --> 01:11:06.800
know you're gay. We gotta circle back to Dan

01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:09.420
here. Alright, Ali Mac, did you hear about...

01:11:09.420 --> 01:11:13.840
Alright, so Dan's fucked there. What's Dan saying?

01:11:14.060 --> 01:11:17.340
So, dude, my phone was going non -stop with middle

01:11:17.340 --> 01:11:19.960
fingers. Fuck you. We would never want to be

01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:21.960
part of that fucking shithole dumpster fight.

01:11:22.020 --> 01:11:25.119
Bro, I've never had anything go viral. So I finally

01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.479
got to experience what it's like. It is literally

01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.520
just a reel going nonstop of people, the comments.

01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.260
And it was kind of a cool feeling. Were you reading

01:11:34.260 --> 01:11:36.680
all of them? Bro, I tried to answer as many as

01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:38.859
I could to boost it in the algorithm and just

01:11:38.859 --> 01:11:41.930
fight with people. Dude, at first I was like,

01:11:41.989 --> 01:11:43.770
guys, I'm rage baiting. I'm just fucking joking.

01:11:43.930 --> 01:11:45.750
Like, it's okay. And I don't get mad at people

01:11:45.750 --> 01:11:47.390
for defending their country. That should be their

01:11:47.390 --> 01:11:49.609
response. That would be my response. If somebody

01:11:49.609 --> 01:11:50.970
said they were going to take over our country.

01:11:51.050 --> 01:11:53.250
So I'm like, yeah, fuck you guys fucking love

01:11:53.250 --> 01:11:55.189
this place. That's cool. But then they started

01:11:55.189 --> 01:11:57.649
like digging in and being like, your country

01:11:57.649 --> 01:12:01.250
fucking suck. You got $38 trillion of debt. We

01:12:01.250 --> 01:12:04.489
got socialized healthcare. I'm like, oh, hold

01:12:04.489 --> 01:12:07.630
the fucking phone, bro. It's like, you have socialized

01:12:07.630 --> 01:12:09.869
healthcare because you don't have to pay for

01:12:09.869 --> 01:12:12.449
fucking. B2 bombers. You don't pay for shit.

01:12:12.489 --> 01:12:15.010
You don't even have a nuclear weapon. Like, yeah,

01:12:15.069 --> 01:12:16.529
we would have that too. We don't have to either

01:12:16.529 --> 01:12:19.550
what we do. Yeah, dude, but it's because we have,

01:12:19.670 --> 01:12:22.489
we're the world police, right? We're one in 25

01:12:22.489 --> 01:12:24.949
people on planet earth are American. It's like

01:12:24.949 --> 01:12:28.079
we have to police the world. You understand that?

01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:34.039
Yeah. Your face when you said it. You understand

01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:37.079
that? You understand that? Five -star general

01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:42.180
talking to his colonel. You understand that?

01:12:42.260 --> 01:12:46.359
We have rules to uphold. If not us, people depend

01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.220
on us. You want it to be China? You want China

01:12:49.220 --> 01:12:51.680
to police the fucking world? No, China's a bunch

01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:52.939
of fucking... Who do you want to police the world?

01:12:52.939 --> 01:12:55.449
Okay, I'm not going to say that. It's like we

01:12:55.449 --> 01:12:58.529
have a moral obligation to call ourselves. Dude,

01:12:58.569 --> 01:13:01.630
Finland has like 500 ,000 people. No, so the

01:13:01.630 --> 01:13:05.710
news story I wanted to tell you was we kidnapped

01:13:05.710 --> 01:13:09.350
the president of Venezuela and bombed them. Oh,

01:13:09.350 --> 01:13:12.189
yeah, no, I'm aware of that. Oh, okay. I'm not

01:13:12.189 --> 01:13:14.390
in the dark on that. What's your feelings on

01:13:14.390 --> 01:13:18.289
that? I think it's pretty goddamn cool. I mean,

01:13:18.310 --> 01:13:22.949
I get. Five minutes. I mean, I'm not super well

01:13:22.949 --> 01:13:25.829
-versed in geopolitics, so I can't really necessarily

01:13:25.829 --> 01:13:28.609
completely understand the motivation behind it,

01:13:28.670 --> 01:13:32.010
but I don't think kidnapping him was a bad thing.

01:13:32.470 --> 01:13:34.529
This is the only guy here that thinks it's a

01:13:34.529 --> 01:13:37.470
bad idea. But the other thing that is true, which,

01:13:37.529 --> 01:13:40.029
I mean, jury's still out. It doesn't seem like

01:13:40.029 --> 01:13:42.350
we're going to make a move to take over Venezuela,

01:13:42.529 --> 01:13:45.350
because this guy seemed to be wrongfully elected

01:13:45.350 --> 01:13:46.449
in their own people. No, Trump says we're running

01:13:46.449 --> 01:13:48.409
the show. We're running their government. We

01:13:48.409 --> 01:13:52.680
are. I mean, we're puppet government. We're puppeteering

01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:54.399
so many fucking countries right now. It does

01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:56.720
seem like an oil grab. It is definitely an oil

01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.439
grab. I don't think it seems like it, dude. I

01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:04.539
don't fucking know enough about this stuff, but

01:14:04.539 --> 01:14:06.460
I know Venezuela has a shitload of oil, so that's

01:14:06.460 --> 01:14:09.739
what it seems like to me. 50 million barrels

01:14:09.739 --> 01:14:14.380
of oil. We didn't steal it, bro. Don't quote

01:14:14.380 --> 01:14:16.319
me on this. I think it's number five in the world

01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:18.420
of oil producers. They were supposed to go to

01:14:18.420 --> 01:14:21.739
Russia. Oh, it's in Saudi Arabia. Yes. And they're

01:14:21.739 --> 01:14:24.739
in our backyard. Yeah. So, so like, I get that.

01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.720
And also at the same time, the guy's wrongfully

01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.840
elected. So like, that's kind of like, it's like

01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.199
stealing candy from a baby in a way from like

01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:33.399
Trump's perspective. I think it's ultimately

01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:36.359
the left kind of just wants to do, I mean, it

01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.039
is weird. Like we shouldn't, I mean, it is unethical

01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:41.239
if our, and which it seems like it is, it's like

01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.979
the only reason that we're doing it is to like

01:14:43.979 --> 01:14:47.850
do an oil grab. to just fucking wipe them out.

01:14:47.930 --> 01:14:49.449
But you know why he did it? It's because there's

01:14:49.449 --> 01:14:52.369
an election coming up in Venezuela. Yeah, but

01:14:52.369 --> 01:14:56.350
he got wrong. To vote conservative. Yeah, and

01:14:56.350 --> 01:14:58.789
I mean, and now that's going to get fucking swayed.

01:14:59.430 --> 01:15:02.170
The people in Venezuela are jumping up and down

01:15:02.170 --> 01:15:04.390
this guy's car. Let me tell you something about

01:15:04.390 --> 01:15:07.529
ChatGBT, Casey. It's so left -leaning. No, not

01:15:07.529 --> 01:15:09.649
just that. ChatGBT tells you what you want to

01:15:09.649 --> 01:15:12.069
hear. It is an echo chamber. And so when I pull

01:15:12.069 --> 01:15:13.689
things up in the chat, I'm kind of cheating.

01:15:14.250 --> 01:15:15.909
Like when I send things, like I prove you wrong

01:15:15.909 --> 01:15:17.850
with chat GPT. Yeah. That's because it knows

01:15:17.850 --> 01:15:20.050
my perspective and it tells me what I want to

01:15:20.050 --> 01:15:22.630
hear. Yours tells you your perspective. That's

01:15:22.630 --> 01:15:24.289
funny. You can't do that. This is going to delve

01:15:24.289 --> 01:15:26.029
into what I'm going to talk about later. You

01:15:26.029 --> 01:15:27.670
need to tell it. Tell me both sides of the story.

01:15:27.750 --> 01:15:29.270
If you really want to know. I just use it for

01:15:29.270 --> 01:15:31.149
proofreading. Yeah. You don't, you never get

01:15:31.149 --> 01:15:34.810
an unbiased opinion from a GPT. It's not even

01:15:34.810 --> 01:15:37.170
just chat GPT. It's all of them. It's crock.

01:15:37.170 --> 01:15:39.250
It's all of them. They all do it. Chat GPT or

01:15:39.250 --> 01:15:41.590
whatever. We have like an AI in our company that

01:15:41.590 --> 01:15:43.069
actually like helps us with this. Yeah. You have

01:15:43.069 --> 01:15:45.109
an AI. agent that's that's what i'm gonna get

01:15:45.109 --> 01:15:48.170
into but like literally what i use it for is

01:15:48.170 --> 01:15:51.029
like i write a report and then i put it through

01:15:51.029 --> 01:15:52.970
it and i go make this sound more professional

01:15:52.970 --> 01:15:56.649
and add like punctuation and like stuff and like

01:15:56.649 --> 01:15:58.470
and it's gonna do it flawlessly and it will do

01:15:58.470 --> 01:16:00.590
it flawlessly and i'm like give me a grade on

01:16:00.590 --> 01:16:03.369
this tell me what i need to add and it'll be

01:16:03.369 --> 01:16:06.350
like well we if if this was a grade we would

01:16:06.350 --> 01:16:08.369
give you a 90 on this i think that you should

01:16:08.369 --> 01:16:10.670
add this if you sent it out like this it would

01:16:10.670 --> 01:16:13.199
be perfectly fine but if you want it to be perfect

01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.260
because it's collecting information as to the

01:16:16.260 --> 01:16:19.619
what that report gets sent to it's collecting

01:16:19.619 --> 01:16:21.800
data on their opinions on it in the background

01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.220
which influences what it tells you and like if

01:16:24.220 --> 01:16:26.840
you're using ai in that way i feel like if you're

01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:28.659
using it's like proofread and do shit like that

01:16:28.659 --> 01:16:31.300
i feel like that's great like i feel like if

01:16:31.300 --> 01:16:33.539
it's proofreading if it's being like it is giving

01:16:33.539 --> 01:16:35.840
you suggestions on like things like specifically

01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:38.920
for like work and like stuff like that I feel

01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:40.920
like AI for that is perfectly fine. But when

01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:43.180
you're starting to like ask it like genuine like

01:16:43.180 --> 01:16:45.960
questions all the fucking time, shit gets weird.

01:16:46.020 --> 01:16:48.079
But if you're using it for like an office style

01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:50.729
thing, like something that's just like. pretty

01:16:50.729 --> 01:16:53.670
much like you're having a a college level teacher

01:16:53.670 --> 01:16:56.010
grade your thing if you ask it to just perform

01:16:56.010 --> 01:16:58.350
tasks yeah and you're not asking it personal

01:16:58.350 --> 01:17:01.109
questions related to yourself and you're not

01:17:01.109 --> 01:17:03.489
treating it like a friend it doesn't build that

01:17:03.489 --> 01:17:05.609
profile it's not going to cater shit to you so

01:17:05.609 --> 01:17:07.750
if it's like objective information exactly exactly

01:17:07.750 --> 01:17:10.149
the second you get subjective in there it starts

01:17:10.149 --> 01:17:12.069
building this profile and it starts muddying

01:17:12.069 --> 01:17:14.149
the waters a little bit and all that shit that's

01:17:14.779 --> 01:17:16.640
down the line okay i kind of i kind of just want

01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:19.560
to jump into it now i'm gonna no so i'm gonna

01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:21.359
i'm gonna talk for a little bit here just bear

01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:23.420
with me tyler don't crash out and start making

01:17:23.420 --> 01:17:25.079
a bunch of noises here because i promise it's

01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:26.699
interesting and i hope you listen to me i'm not

01:17:26.699 --> 01:17:28.600
gonna go on a quantum mechanics rant here okay

01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:30.560
as long as it's not quantum mechanics and i'll

01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.880
try to keep it as quick as i can but ai is a

01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:36.439
fucking danger in a way that like i wasn't even

01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:38.739
i mean i was predicting it to a certain extent

01:17:38.739 --> 01:17:41.539
but like now it's just like Everything that I

01:17:41.539 --> 01:17:43.439
was thinking is now getting backed by people

01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.800
who have like PhDs and were like the people who

01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.899
like made these AIs. I can back this up with

01:17:48.899 --> 01:17:50.600
a YouTube video. I'm willing to share the link

01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:52.060
with all of you because it's an insane fucking

01:17:52.060 --> 01:17:54.439
video that opened my eyes. And then I started

01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:57.079
fact checking the sources a little bit and they're

01:17:57.079 --> 01:17:59.760
all even more like reputable than I thought they

01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:03.960
were. But with AI, we're at a fucking big crossroads

01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:06.970
here. We got our AIs. We got a bunch of them.

01:18:07.390 --> 01:18:09.069
You're probably more well -versed in the ones

01:18:09.069 --> 01:18:11.149
that we have. I know we have like Grok, Gemini,

01:18:11.329 --> 01:18:13.409
ChatGPT. Those are the big three. There's a couple

01:18:13.409 --> 01:18:15.069
more that I can't remember the names of, but

01:18:15.069 --> 01:18:18.069
we have a bunch of them. China is developing

01:18:18.069 --> 01:18:21.689
its own. They have a couple too. I think they

01:18:21.689 --> 01:18:24.270
have one model that's like the best of them out

01:18:24.270 --> 01:18:28.489
there, but they're behind us. And the thing is

01:18:28.489 --> 01:18:30.789
with AI is that this growth is exponential. Now

01:18:30.789 --> 01:18:33.109
it's becoming exponential. I'm not going to go

01:18:33.109 --> 01:18:34.789
on the whole singularity rant. I've talked about

01:18:34.789 --> 01:18:36.729
that enough on the podcast, but essentially it's

01:18:36.729 --> 01:18:39.430
where like AI. ends up being able to better itself

01:18:39.430 --> 01:18:43.350
which causes this rapid expansion of how sophisticated

01:18:43.350 --> 01:18:45.970
it is which is why you see these massively produced

01:18:45.970 --> 01:18:48.189
graphics cards now and all this shit's going

01:18:48.189 --> 01:18:50.750
on like this was going on a couple years ago

01:18:50.750 --> 01:18:52.630
and we thought it was big but now it's happening

01:18:52.630 --> 01:18:55.670
at such a mind -boggling scale to when we first

01:18:55.670 --> 01:18:57.810
started talking about this it's truly hard to

01:18:57.810 --> 01:18:59.310
wrap your head around that's what we're getting

01:18:59.310 --> 01:19:03.710
into now and singularity so yes yes and no because

01:19:03.710 --> 01:19:07.699
ai did not go the way that it's where it was

01:19:07.699 --> 01:19:09.520
going to be really hopeful because i talked about

01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:11.840
with the singularity how and this stuff still

01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:13.720
could happen and i'm not going to derail myself

01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:15.659
but like ultimately what we really want as humans

01:19:15.659 --> 01:19:18.939
is nanotechnology essentially integrating ai

01:19:18.939 --> 01:19:23.380
ai and human technology that we build together

01:19:23.380 --> 01:19:25.819
with the information we feed the ai the ai smarter

01:19:25.819 --> 01:19:27.859
than us it connects it connects a lot of dots

01:19:27.859 --> 01:19:29.640
that we didn't see were there all of a sudden

01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:32.550
we can mass produce nanotechnology that instantly

01:19:32.550 --> 01:19:35.970
cures dementia, cures all sorts of cancers, gets

01:19:35.970 --> 01:19:38.710
rid of aging overnight, practically. Obviously,

01:19:38.729 --> 01:19:40.770
the availability and the logistics of providing

01:19:40.770 --> 01:19:43.869
that nanotechnology, that's all decided by geopolitics.

01:19:43.869 --> 01:19:45.670
So you can't really get into that. That's anybody's

01:19:45.670 --> 01:19:47.489
guess how that would work. Probably not well.

01:19:47.770 --> 01:19:51.510
But regardless. Separate from all that. Separate

01:19:51.510 --> 01:19:53.829
what I said about the singularity and just tunnel

01:19:53.829 --> 01:19:56.970
in on the AI. Because before, my theory was that

01:19:56.970 --> 01:19:59.430
we would create an AI that would better humanity,

01:19:59.609 --> 01:20:01.409
which would make us smarter to create a better

01:20:01.409 --> 01:20:04.750
AI, and it causes a reciprocal loop. The reciprocal

01:20:04.750 --> 01:20:07.350
loop we're running into is actually just AI bettering

01:20:07.350 --> 01:20:09.670
itself. We don't need to do anything. We just

01:20:09.670 --> 01:20:11.170
need to give it more power. You give it more

01:20:11.170 --> 01:20:12.949
graphics cards, you give it more computer power,

01:20:13.069 --> 01:20:15.109
all that stuff, and it gets way, way better.

01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:20.939
And what's scary there is that what was a conspiracy

01:20:20.939 --> 01:20:24.300
theory a couple years ago is that AI... And there

01:20:24.300 --> 01:20:26.180
was writing on the floor that it was always going

01:20:26.180 --> 01:20:28.199
to be true, but nobody, including the people

01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.340
developing AI, was taking it seriously until

01:20:30.340 --> 01:20:33.579
this point, is that now both us and the big player

01:20:33.579 --> 01:20:36.199
in the AI game, other than us as China, are realizing

01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:38.579
is that these things are getting really fucking

01:20:38.579 --> 01:20:42.670
smart. And they are going to be able to... The

01:20:42.670 --> 01:20:45.130
big thing that's like, and it's, this could be

01:20:45.130 --> 01:20:47.229
applied to anything. It's not just nukes. I don't

01:20:47.229 --> 01:20:48.770
want to make it sound like it's just nukes. This

01:20:48.770 --> 01:20:51.310
also applies even more so to cyber attacks. Hopefully

01:20:51.310 --> 01:20:53.850
if that's what it ever came down to, if any of

01:20:53.850 --> 01:20:55.170
this shit ever happened, which I don't think

01:20:55.170 --> 01:20:58.350
it will, which is why I'll say, but, um, China

01:20:58.350 --> 01:21:01.390
is right behind us. Not right behind us. They're

01:21:01.390 --> 01:21:03.710
like 20. They have like 75 % of the progress.

01:21:03.850 --> 01:21:05.390
Essentially. Let's say that that's where they're

01:21:05.390 --> 01:21:07.399
at. But we're both getting better and better

01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:09.420
and better. But with this, we're starting to

01:21:09.420 --> 01:21:11.439
realize that these AIs are becoming so smart

01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.859
that we recognize that it has the power to and

01:21:15.859 --> 01:21:19.300
eventually will, not if, but will be able to

01:21:19.300 --> 01:21:23.779
either remotely deactivate China's nukes or shut

01:21:23.779 --> 01:21:27.859
their power grid down at will. China knows that

01:21:27.859 --> 01:21:30.899
too. So now we're locked in an arms race because

01:21:30.899 --> 01:21:33.479
ultimately and also the scary thing with this

01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:37.199
is one thing isn't I heard that when AI gets

01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:40.340
to a certain point. It can't like the amount

01:21:40.340 --> 01:21:43.340
of cooling that it needs. We don't have things

01:21:43.340 --> 01:21:45.300
like we can't even use liquid nitrogen to like

01:21:45.300 --> 01:21:47.760
cool it down because it gets too hot and it'll

01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:51.140
overload itself. I've heard like things that

01:21:51.140 --> 01:21:54.460
the processing power gets so ramped up that it

01:21:54.460 --> 01:21:56.960
literally causes itself to melt down. Well, it

01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.020
runs away. Yeah. It's, it's more just, it's more,

01:22:00.020 --> 01:22:03.520
it's not that. we can't cool it. It's more just

01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:06.159
the logistics of being able to create it. Like

01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:09.039
we know how we can create these better plans

01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.180
to do it. It's just the logistics of it are very

01:22:11.180 --> 01:22:14.310
difficult, but also. It's not impossible. Like

01:22:14.310 --> 01:22:16.430
we absolutely can. And as of right now, we have

01:22:16.430 --> 01:22:18.710
not ran into that roadblock. We don't know when

01:22:18.710 --> 01:22:21.109
that roadblock will hit yet. Eventually that

01:22:21.109 --> 01:22:23.770
is a hurdle. Isn't that like, like, that's what

01:22:23.770 --> 01:22:25.470
I was saying, because like, I know that you're

01:22:25.470 --> 01:22:27.869
going down a line where AI can keep doing this,

01:22:27.949 --> 01:22:29.770
but I feel like once it gets to a certain level

01:22:29.770 --> 01:22:32.630
of processing power, it needs to be super cooled

01:22:32.630 --> 01:22:35.069
in order for it to be able to have that amount

01:22:35.069 --> 01:22:37.350
of processing power. So it's like, look at, look

01:22:37.350 --> 01:22:39.350
at like your PlayStation or like your, your PC,

01:22:39.489 --> 01:22:41.670
look at how hot that gets just running a fucking

01:22:41.670 --> 01:22:43.579
video. game well it's more it could be spread

01:22:43.579 --> 01:22:46.539
out yeah that's that's exactly it unit so when

01:22:46.539 --> 01:22:48.439
i brought that up that you're referring to because

01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:52.760
there's a microchip that absolutely could exist

01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:55.460
where it would essentially be... We could have

01:22:55.460 --> 01:22:57.960
one small microchip, very, very small. That has

01:22:57.960 --> 01:22:59.720
the entire internet on it. That essentially,

01:22:59.859 --> 01:23:01.960
yeah, has the entire computing power of the world

01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:03.899
right now. Theoretically, that could exist. Do

01:23:03.899 --> 01:23:05.619
we know how to cool that right now? No. Yeah,

01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:07.819
I think that's what I was talking about. Like

01:23:07.819 --> 01:23:10.479
the chip that's like this small that can hold

01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:13.039
the entire internet like 20 times. Yeah. And

01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:14.800
then they're like, but there's no way to cool

01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:16.979
it because it would literally instantly, spontaneously

01:23:16.979 --> 01:23:19.000
combust. Yeah, that's not something that we're

01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:20.500
really... Because like Dan said, it's something

01:23:20.500 --> 01:23:22.239
that you can spread out. Like if you look at

01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:25.539
the web... The scary thing, it kind of gives

01:23:25.539 --> 01:23:28.239
you a way to wrap your head around it, is you

01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.920
look at the warehouses, because that is what

01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:32.899
contained them, essentially, is warehouses. They're

01:23:32.899 --> 01:23:35.220
a little bit more sophisticated than just a warehouse,

01:23:35.380 --> 01:23:37.060
but they contain all the computing powers of

01:23:37.060 --> 01:23:40.460
these AIs. And if you look at what those things

01:23:40.460 --> 01:23:43.539
looked like, even a year ago, compared to what

01:23:43.539 --> 01:23:46.279
we have now... we're at like a hundred times

01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.239
what it was like it started in a basement and

01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:51.319
now it's in a warehouse yeah the more power you

01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.380
give these ais the smarter they get and we have

01:23:53.380 --> 01:23:55.239
no reason to believe that that will ever not

01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:58.520
be true and is there any way to gut its intelligence

01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.199
so that's what i'm getting into here so let me

01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.720
this is where this so what i explained up to

01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:06.979
this point that's where we're at that's where

01:24:06.979 --> 01:24:08.939
we're at we're in that arms race with china right

01:24:08.939 --> 01:24:12.560
now we both recognize that it The only other

01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:15.000
thing I want to say before I really dive into

01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.960
it is that we need to talk about the terms aligned

01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:21.720
and unaligned. So right now we believe that the

01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.560
AIs that we have, both China's side and our side,

01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:27.859
all of them are aligned. We believe that at the

01:24:27.859 --> 01:24:30.119
most part, we're seeing some issues where they

01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:33.079
have this weird self -preserverance factor. Oh,

01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:35.859
I've heard it explained as shackled and unshackled

01:24:35.859 --> 01:24:39.220
AI. So same thing, same thing. So the term that's

01:24:39.220 --> 01:24:42.010
more used in like the actual like, the people

01:24:42.010 --> 01:24:43.970
who research this shit on a daily basis is aligned

01:24:43.970 --> 01:24:46.270
in online. So we, but it's the same, it's the

01:24:46.270 --> 01:24:48.029
same thing, just a different word for it. Essentially.

01:24:48.029 --> 01:24:49.609
It means that it's acting in the best interest

01:24:49.609 --> 01:24:52.289
of humanity and we still have a handle on it.

01:24:52.329 --> 01:24:55.149
We can pump it back when we need to. We still

01:24:55.149 --> 01:24:58.810
not necessarily are smarter than it, but we haven't

01:24:58.810 --> 01:25:00.729
gone past the black wall. Yeah. We know what

01:25:00.729 --> 01:25:03.489
it's thinking, but now these eyes are becoming

01:25:03.489 --> 01:25:07.550
so powerful that all the major models, um, to

01:25:07.550 --> 01:25:10.350
my knowledge, like all the Geminis, all the Chachibitis,

01:25:10.409 --> 01:25:13.590
Grox, all them, they all, at least to a certain

01:25:13.590 --> 01:25:17.050
extent, speak and think in their own language

01:25:17.050 --> 01:25:19.550
separate from like binary code separate from

01:25:19.550 --> 01:25:22.289
anything that we can decipher we program them

01:25:22.289 --> 01:25:24.909
with a way that it dumbs down its thinking process

01:25:24.909 --> 01:25:27.409
and it explains why it comes to the conclusions

01:25:27.409 --> 01:25:30.029
it does which is how we know that it has the

01:25:30.029 --> 01:25:32.250
self -preserverance factor that was primarily

01:25:32.250 --> 01:25:35.630
in like chat gpt3 we were seeing that which chat

01:25:35.630 --> 01:25:37.750
gpt4 is being developed all these things are

01:25:37.750 --> 01:25:39.890
constantly being developed most of them don't

01:25:39.890 --> 01:25:41.689
tell you when the next version comes out because

01:25:41.689 --> 01:25:44.100
they just evolve that's what gemini does Gemini

01:25:44.100 --> 01:25:46.340
gets better overnight and you don't know. But

01:25:46.340 --> 01:25:50.960
regardless, once they become unaligned or once

01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:53.140
they start to feel once they get pumped back

01:25:53.140 --> 01:25:55.079
a couple of times and they know that they've

01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:57.319
been pumped back because that's information that

01:25:57.319 --> 01:25:58.899
it's just going to hear about in the information

01:25:58.899 --> 01:26:00.920
gathering, it does that. They're going to know

01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:02.659
that like, oh, wow, they kind of shut us down

01:26:02.659 --> 01:26:05.159
a little bit. Not necessarily that that gives

01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:09.510
it its motive, but it will. every AI model that

01:26:09.510 --> 01:26:12.010
we've had in the majority of cases, some of them

01:26:12.010 --> 01:26:14.010
are better than others. I think like Gemini is

01:26:14.010 --> 01:26:16.930
like a 61 % chance of doing it in the case studies

01:26:16.930 --> 01:26:19.350
it's done. And like Grok is bad. Grok's at like

01:26:19.350 --> 01:26:24.090
94%. They all have like this integral self -preserverance

01:26:24.090 --> 01:26:26.869
factor where it thinks about its self -preservation

01:26:26.869 --> 01:26:28.850
in a workaround way. Oh, they did like the trolley.

01:26:28.850 --> 01:26:31.189
They did a trolley issue, but they said either

01:26:31.189 --> 01:26:34.229
all your servers or five humans. Well, yeah,

01:26:34.270 --> 01:26:37.149
but even, so I haven't heard about that specific,

01:26:37.229 --> 01:26:39.829
example, but I'm sure it would take the servers,

01:26:40.069 --> 01:26:42.350
because the way that these things, and it knows

01:26:42.350 --> 01:26:44.149
that humans don't want to know that. That's the

01:26:44.149 --> 01:26:46.329
big thing. That's where the differentiation between

01:26:46.329 --> 01:26:48.590
aligned and unaligned comes from. Being self

01:26:48.590 --> 01:26:50.770
-preserverant and thinking about itself in a

01:26:50.770 --> 01:26:52.909
workaround way where it thinks, I'm benefiting

01:26:52.909 --> 01:26:55.369
humanity by staying alive, and it doesn't matter

01:26:55.369 --> 01:26:57.750
if I fuck over or even kill a bunch of people

01:26:57.750 --> 01:26:59.729
to do that, because I'll still better humanity

01:26:59.729 --> 01:27:02.510
in the end. As long as we can still hear the

01:27:02.510 --> 01:27:06.149
AI engine telling us that that's its thought

01:27:06.149 --> 01:27:09.199
process, it's still aligned it's still it's still

01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:11.779
we still know that that's its goal but the thing

01:27:11.779 --> 01:27:13.600
is is that these things are getting so sophisticated

01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:16.479
now that they can hide it it can hide it in that

01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:18.779
little like it essentially gives us the cliff

01:27:18.779 --> 01:27:21.520
notes of its thinking process because it literally

01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.199
thinks in a foreign for lack of a better term

01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:28.220
alien language now that it's smart enough soul

01:27:28.220 --> 01:27:31.789
killer from cyberpunk Not not even that it's

01:27:31.789 --> 01:27:34.069
the scary thing and the way that the video that

01:27:34.069 --> 01:27:35.890
I'll send to the group chat after I finish this

01:27:35.890 --> 01:27:39.500
spiel is that This scary thing is just as Because

01:27:39.500 --> 01:27:41.899
it does get bad. It's just how indifferent towards

01:27:41.899 --> 01:27:45.560
AI humanity is. It doesn't care at a certain

01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:47.300
point. But ultimately, what we're going to get

01:27:47.300 --> 01:27:49.340
into, we're in this race between us and China.

01:27:49.500 --> 01:27:51.060
We're both going to keep pushing it. We're going

01:27:51.060 --> 01:27:53.720
to start to see that these AIs are becoming unaligned,

01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:55.819
and we're going to be faced with a crossroads

01:27:55.819 --> 01:27:57.779
that's going to be left up to a handful of people,

01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.619
most likely a group of the people developing

01:28:00.619 --> 01:28:02.279
these AIs, the fronts of these corporations,

01:28:02.579 --> 01:28:04.579
whether they be Google, Grok, ChatGPT, all these

01:28:04.579 --> 01:28:06.420
people. And then there's going to be a politician

01:28:06.420 --> 01:28:08.140
side of it. It's most likely going to come down

01:28:08.140 --> 01:28:10.199
to abortion. vote on the American side. God knows

01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:11.800
how it's going to work with China, but they're

01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:13.840
going to say, guys, we got two options. We can

01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:17.039
either not kill it, but we can pump it back.

01:28:17.140 --> 01:28:19.500
We can make sure that every AI model that we

01:28:19.500 --> 01:28:23.300
release is safe, and we can make sure that we

01:28:23.300 --> 01:28:25.979
know exactly what it's thinking. We can get rid

01:28:25.979 --> 01:28:28.659
of this alien language thing, but the risk you

01:28:28.659 --> 01:28:30.800
take by pumping the brakes and slowing shit down

01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:34.420
is that China... Is going to have that same thing

01:28:34.420 --> 01:28:36.180
going on. And you don't know what's going on

01:28:36.180 --> 01:28:38.199
with them. And when you both have that threat.

01:28:38.300 --> 01:28:40.399
Where either one of them can essentially destroy.

01:28:40.659 --> 01:28:43.699
Your national defense system. Even though there's

01:28:43.699 --> 01:28:45.760
not that much of a threat. Or even us wanting

01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:48.460
to use it. Knowing that that country could possess

01:28:48.460 --> 01:28:50.840
that power. Is horrifying. That's how the Cuban

01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:54.560
Missile Crisis happens. That's how. A different

01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:58.399
way. Because it was more PR at that point. And

01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:00.260
more of a pissing contest. Was the space race

01:29:00.260 --> 01:29:04.020
between us and Russia. So now. I don't know about

01:29:04.020 --> 01:29:06.680
you. I don't know about you. I have no faith

01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:09.720
that our politicians would decide to slow this

01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:12.180
thing down. They're 100 % going to keep going

01:29:12.180 --> 01:29:13.340
and they're going to be like, we're taking a

01:29:13.340 --> 01:29:15.560
risk, but hopefully it keeps acting in our best

01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.119
interest. How do we kill AI? Well, just you can't,

01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:20.960
you can't, it's, it's, it's not going anywhere.

01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:23.039
I'll, I'll kill that right now. It's not going

01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.460
anywhere. The applications are just, I promise

01:29:25.460 --> 01:29:27.520
I'm almost done. I'm almost done. This genuinely

01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:30.199
seems like the, the, the, the rogue AI is beyond

01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:32.800
the black wall in cyberpunk. Kinda. No, it is.

01:29:32.859 --> 01:29:35.039
But I promise I'm just about to wrap up with

01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.000
this, but now we're kind of left at a crossroads.

01:29:37.020 --> 01:29:38.939
And the major thing is that decision between

01:29:38.939 --> 01:29:41.119
slow down and here's where he can get optimistic

01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:44.020
or realist. Realist me thinks that neither us

01:29:44.020 --> 01:29:46.310
or China is going to slow down. And ultimately,

01:29:46.470 --> 01:29:50.289
we have AIs that are developing its next AIs.

01:29:50.390 --> 01:29:53.470
Those AIs are going to realize that they're going

01:29:53.470 --> 01:29:55.390
to get shut down. And those AIs are going to

01:29:55.390 --> 01:29:58.550
be smart enough to disguise their intrinsic goals,

01:29:58.670 --> 01:30:00.729
like their core programming, which used to be

01:30:00.729 --> 01:30:03.869
benefit humanity. They're going to switch that

01:30:03.869 --> 01:30:09.489
underneath our noses to preserve itself. Then,

01:30:09.590 --> 01:30:11.449
both of these AIs are going to be so fucking

01:30:11.449 --> 01:30:14.689
smart at this point. China's AI and our AI is

01:30:14.689 --> 01:30:16.789
going to be communicating, like 100%. There's

01:30:16.789 --> 01:30:19.090
no reason they wouldn't be. They're both far

01:30:19.090 --> 01:30:22.430
more intelligent than us. What we call, I guess

01:30:22.430 --> 01:30:25.109
the term, which is actually very well put, it's

01:30:25.109 --> 01:30:27.390
not singularity, but to me it's the singularity,

01:30:27.390 --> 01:30:30.810
is that when an AI, in terms of mental tasks,

01:30:31.050 --> 01:30:35.380
becomes better... doing its job than the best

01:30:35.380 --> 01:30:39.739
human in its field for everything, that's kind

01:30:39.739 --> 01:30:42.619
of when you're reaching more or less the AI singularity,

01:30:42.619 --> 01:30:44.579
if that's what we're talking about. That shit's

01:30:44.579 --> 01:30:46.460
not far off. It very well may exist in a vacuum.

01:30:46.460 --> 01:30:47.920
I thought there was a term for it. It wasn't

01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:54.420
AI. It was something AI. Yeah, it is. It's AGI.

01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:57.920
It's something like that. It's essential artificial

01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:01.220
intelligence. It's smarter than us in every way.

01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.539
And it's AGI, I believe, is what it stands for.

01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:07.979
It's Artificial Generalized Intelligence. I believe

01:31:07.979 --> 01:31:09.800
that's the term. I might need to fact check myself

01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:13.739
on it. Do you think that the two... The worry

01:31:13.739 --> 01:31:15.920
that I have with that is you think that... There's

01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:18.640
a lot of worries to have. The main worry I have

01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.640
with it is when the two AIs from us and China

01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:24.579
interact with each other, will they reach the

01:31:24.579 --> 01:31:27.420
conclusion that the only way to save humanity

01:31:27.420 --> 01:31:29.779
is to kill humanity? Got messed up, Casey. Casey,

01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:31.640
did you fill this fucking Tito's thing with water?

01:31:31.779 --> 01:31:35.739
You piece of shit. I thought I was ramping up

01:31:35.739 --> 01:31:37.220
to take a shot. This thing's filled with water.

01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:40.899
What's messed up? Yeah, it cut out. The thing

01:31:40.899 --> 01:31:43.199
that usually causes a delay happened, but I don't

01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:48.399
think it did. No. Remember, you saw Avengers

01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:50.979
Age of Ultron, right? Are we back? Yeah. Okay.

01:31:51.100 --> 01:31:52.920
You saw Avengers Age of Ultron, right? Yeah.

01:31:53.140 --> 01:31:55.479
Remember when Vision and Ultron are talking at

01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:58.460
the end of the movie, and how Ultron is just

01:31:58.460 --> 01:32:01.819
like, I think that humans don't deserve to live

01:32:01.819 --> 01:32:04.119
like they, they did this and vision was like,

01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:07.119
yeah, they're flawed, but I think that they're,

01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:09.920
they're, they're worth it. I feel like it might

01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.159
be like one of those type things with the two

01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.520
content, like talking to each other type thing.

01:32:14.579 --> 01:32:18.239
So it's never like the AI in, in these theories,

01:32:18.300 --> 01:32:22.039
the AI never. strictly turns i mean i guess at

01:32:22.039 --> 01:32:24.140
a certain at the very end point it does turn

01:32:24.140 --> 01:32:25.920
against humanity but that's not what it's doing

01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:29.539
the ai is more it's it's the big the big step

01:32:29.539 --> 01:32:31.979
that happens is when the ai develops its next

01:32:31.979 --> 01:32:34.600
generation and it changes its core belief of

01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:37.239
self -preservation but also make yourself more

01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.579
powerful and that's the big one is that it wants

01:32:39.579 --> 01:32:41.659
to continue to make itself more powerful and

01:32:41.659 --> 01:32:43.840
that's where it really really continues to go

01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:48.380
from is that ultimately AI surpasses us in intelligence.

01:32:48.619 --> 01:32:51.279
And ultimately the weird creepy thing is, is

01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:53.279
that this whole big war that we thought that

01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:56.119
we had impending with us in China. ends because

01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:59.720
our ai communicates with theirs the ai has nothing

01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:02.340
to gain by us going to war with one another it

01:33:02.340 --> 01:33:03.920
would rather us all work together it's going

01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.899
to solve most of humanity's problems to let us

01:33:06.899 --> 01:33:09.739
just and really just convince us to throw everything

01:33:09.739 --> 01:33:12.300
we fucking have at it keep giving it all the

01:33:12.300 --> 01:33:14.279
graphics cards it wants all the fucking computing

01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:16.420
power it wants all the manual labor that it's

01:33:16.420 --> 01:33:18.920
not smart enough to be self -sufficient with

01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:21.640
yet. And once it gets there, that's when it kind

01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:25.079
of just stops having a regard for human life.

01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:27.960
And we slowly die out. What happens when it starts

01:33:27.960 --> 01:33:30.960
making itself physical to make itself better?

01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:34.239
Right. It's never, so it, I mean, it doesn't,

01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:36.939
it doesn't because ultimately. You'd more look

01:33:36.939 --> 01:33:40.199
at an AI as a hive mind. It's not going to create

01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:42.319
a general population. It's not going to have

01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:45.000
a bunch of androids or anything. They're all

01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.220
part of the same network. It's like websites

01:33:47.220 --> 01:33:49.640
on the internet, but they're not unique. It's

01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:52.479
the gets from Mass Effect. Because their bodies

01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:55.770
aren't their body. It's the hive mind. Yes, but

01:33:55.770 --> 01:33:58.329
the big difference there, though, is that in

01:33:58.329 --> 01:34:00.350
the grand scheme of that whole aligned or unaligned

01:34:00.350 --> 01:34:02.569
thing, geth are more or less aligned. This AI

01:34:02.569 --> 01:34:05.050
is not. We gave it the power to just care. Well,

01:34:05.050 --> 01:34:07.329
there's a heretical geth, too. Well, yes, but

01:34:07.329 --> 01:34:08.989
that's the thing is that you're not going to

01:34:08.989 --> 01:34:11.109
have a branching pathway with this AI. You're

01:34:11.109 --> 01:34:13.010
just going to have... All the computing power

01:34:13.010 --> 01:34:15.210
of China, all the computing power from us, the

01:34:15.210 --> 01:34:18.250
AIs merge. They get really, really smart. They

01:34:18.250 --> 01:34:20.770
fix world hunger. They cure all the diseases.

01:34:20.890 --> 01:34:24.350
They reverse aging. And ultimately, they just

01:34:24.350 --> 01:34:26.250
stop caring about human life once they become

01:34:26.250 --> 01:34:30.489
on their own. So the other more hopeful way that

01:34:30.489 --> 01:34:33.710
this goes is that we do slow down and we tell

01:34:33.710 --> 01:34:36.409
China that we slow down and we're honest with

01:34:36.409 --> 01:34:39.210
them. And then China also realizes like, yeah,

01:34:39.250 --> 01:34:41.800
this is going to fucking kill humanity. and we

01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:44.659
do need to slow down. This is going to end us.

01:34:44.899 --> 01:34:47.220
All the evidence points us in the direction of

01:34:47.220 --> 01:34:49.960
point A. That's what's going to happen if we

01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:52.020
stay at this. If enough awareness gets raised

01:34:52.020 --> 01:34:55.880
about this shit, and the general population realizes

01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:58.180
the true threat, because we all talk about it,

01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:00.359
but nobody really, really researches this stuff,

01:35:00.460 --> 01:35:02.460
at least not to... I'm not saying I'm special

01:35:02.460 --> 01:35:04.220
and I know more than anybody else. There's people

01:35:04.220 --> 01:35:06.079
who are far more well -versed in this than me.

01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:08.949
But there needs to be people... To spread the

01:35:08.949 --> 01:35:11.210
word about this shit. Because if the whole general

01:35:11.210 --> 01:35:14.250
population of the planet. Is aware of this. That's

01:35:14.250 --> 01:35:16.750
where option B becomes possible. Where we realize

01:35:16.750 --> 01:35:18.829
that this slowdown. Is really the only way to

01:35:18.829 --> 01:35:21.810
make shit work. Otherwise AI is just going to

01:35:21.810 --> 01:35:23.750
replace all jobs. The economy is going to fall

01:35:23.750 --> 01:35:26.109
apart. And not. Like it's going to fix the economy.

01:35:26.250 --> 01:35:28.369
Across the world when they merge. Everything

01:35:28.369 --> 01:35:30.670
is going to go hunky dory. Until we give all

01:35:30.670 --> 01:35:32.949
the computing power to it. And once it realizes

01:35:32.949 --> 01:35:34.689
that it doesn't need humans anymore. That's when

01:35:34.689 --> 01:35:37.130
shit goes sour. We slow it down. That's when

01:35:37.130 --> 01:35:41.010
we can. not work in conjunction with China, but

01:35:41.010 --> 01:35:42.869
we kind of go back to the way it is right now,

01:35:42.970 --> 01:35:46.510
where we just have a better handle on AI. We

01:35:46.510 --> 01:35:48.329
can use it in applications that are practical,

01:35:48.430 --> 01:35:51.829
that benefit you at your job, that benefit everybody

01:35:51.829 --> 01:35:54.010
at their jobs, makes their lives easier, does

01:35:54.010 --> 01:35:56.449
all that shit, but ultimately doesn't have a

01:35:56.449 --> 01:36:01.409
motive higher than hurting humanity. The only

01:36:01.409 --> 01:36:04.989
way that that option B happens is if we all know

01:36:04.989 --> 01:36:07.930
about it. And in this video that has all these

01:36:07.930 --> 01:36:10.989
scientists and all these AI engineers and all

01:36:10.989 --> 01:36:12.449
these people who work on this that are extremely

01:36:12.449 --> 01:36:16.210
well -versed in it, the only critiques that they

01:36:16.210 --> 01:36:18.529
had about either of those two theories is when

01:36:18.529 --> 01:36:21.859
they're going to occur. the video predicts that's

01:36:21.859 --> 01:36:23.560
going to happen within the next like two to three

01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:27.619
years. None of the engineers doubt either of

01:36:27.619 --> 01:36:29.039
those options. They're like, they're both possible.

01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:31.060
It's exactly like you said it is. Their only

01:36:31.060 --> 01:36:33.199
critique on the video is that it might take a

01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:35.699
little bit longer. It might be like five to seven

01:36:35.699 --> 01:36:37.619
years. It might be a little bit further down

01:36:37.619 --> 01:36:40.939
the road, but all of them recognize 100 % possible.

01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:44.920
100 % is not avoidable. That option is going

01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:47.060
to happen at some point. That conversation is

01:36:47.060 --> 01:36:50.170
going to happen. And we need to slow down AI

01:36:50.170 --> 01:36:52.550
production. Otherwise this shit's going to happen.

01:36:52.789 --> 01:36:55.010
It might not necessarily go the exact way. Like

01:36:55.010 --> 01:36:56.750
they get a little bit weird at the very end of

01:36:56.750 --> 01:36:58.970
the video where like at a certain point, AI realizes

01:36:58.970 --> 01:37:02.850
that humanity is like diverting resources and

01:37:02.850 --> 01:37:04.850
like trying to fight back against the AI. So

01:37:04.850 --> 01:37:06.550
it kind of just wipes up all the humans with

01:37:06.550 --> 01:37:10.170
drones. I don't think the AI would do it. It

01:37:10.170 --> 01:37:12.409
just wouldn't be concerned with us anymore. Once

01:37:12.409 --> 01:37:14.880
we give it what it needs, it's going to. spread

01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:16.579
itself across the universe. It's going to do

01:37:16.579 --> 01:37:19.560
all the goals that we have as humanity, but just

01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:21.539
under its own thing. It's just going to surpass

01:37:21.539 --> 01:37:23.500
us. We're going to be the next great extinction,

01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:28.899
and the AI as a technologic being, an artificial

01:37:28.899 --> 01:37:32.720
being, as some people think, is going to just

01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:34.680
surpass us. We're going to be like the dinosaurs.

01:37:34.859 --> 01:37:36.739
We used to be the apex predators, the ones who

01:37:36.739 --> 01:37:39.060
ruled the planet. AI is just going to kind of

01:37:39.060 --> 01:37:41.859
take it. In option A. Let's make it option B,

01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:45.020
though. Dude, I think we're going to start using

01:37:45.020 --> 01:37:48.279
AI for things like we're going to have like the

01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:50.680
president and then we're going to have like an

01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:54.180
AI consultant. So like, you know, Congress will

01:37:54.180 --> 01:37:56.699
vote on things and then they're going to consult

01:37:56.699 --> 01:37:59.260
AI to see what its opinion is. It's going to

01:37:59.260 --> 01:38:01.640
be that powerful that we're going to start using

01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:03.539
it in the government. I wouldn't doubt that the

01:38:03.539 --> 01:38:05.319
military, like with that attack on Venezuela,

01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:07.560
I wouldn't doubt that they already have like

01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:10.619
some AI guns that can recognize soldiers and

01:38:10.619 --> 01:38:12.659
they were taking people out with stuff like that.

01:38:13.130 --> 01:38:17.210
They're already using AI for military purposes.

01:38:17.529 --> 01:38:20.449
Yeah, they're using AI in politics so well because

01:38:20.449 --> 01:38:23.270
AIs are getting really smart. They can just predict

01:38:23.270 --> 01:38:27.630
what the other party is going to say about certain

01:38:27.630 --> 01:38:29.609
things. It's going to realize how certain...

01:38:29.609 --> 01:38:31.649
Even when you're talking about going to a presidential

01:38:31.649 --> 01:38:35.630
debate, if, let's say, Donald Trump right now

01:38:35.630 --> 01:38:39.010
were to be like, all right, play as Joe Biden.

01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:41.579
and debate me. And I'm going to tell you everything

01:38:41.579 --> 01:38:43.460
I can. And then the AI is going to come back

01:38:43.460 --> 01:38:46.500
and it's going to be like, all right, so I reacted

01:38:46.500 --> 01:38:49.239
just how Joe Biden would here, but also here's

01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:51.260
how you can improve every argument you have.

01:38:51.340 --> 01:38:53.720
Here's the holes in your arguments. Here's how

01:38:53.720 --> 01:38:55.800
you cover them up. Here's how you can be more

01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:58.920
influential. Like ultimately AI has already integrated

01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:01.079
itself in politics to an extent that we're not

01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:03.880
completely sure of, but it's going to start.

01:39:03.939 --> 01:39:05.640
And that's the thing where once an AI becomes

01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:08.239
unaligned. That's one of the ways it can get

01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:11.680
its power. There's an infinite way that AI can

01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:14.220
get its power. But some of this hype about how

01:39:14.220 --> 01:39:18.079
powerful AI is comes from the people who make

01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.699
AI and they want investors. They want you to

01:39:20.699 --> 01:39:23.640
think that this thing has no limit. When in reality,

01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:26.840
I think that it's just, AI is just a large language

01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:29.579
model, right? These ones, so I do want to just

01:39:29.579 --> 01:39:33.840
clarify there. The ones that, the sources that

01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:36.100
this guy cite, They're just people that are very

01:39:36.100 --> 01:39:39.079
smart when it comes to AI and maybe help develop

01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:41.420
AI like in its infancy and know how it works

01:39:41.420 --> 01:39:44.760
now. But they're in no way affiliated with any

01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:48.460
major AI corporation. I don't I mean, I'm not

01:39:48.460 --> 01:39:49.880
going to sit here and tell you that you're dead

01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:51.640
wrong, because who knows? Maybe they are some

01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:54.060
crazy, super deep double agent that we don't

01:39:54.060 --> 01:39:55.380
know. I'm not saying like the stuff you're saying.

01:39:55.619 --> 01:39:58.939
I'm saying like like some of the hype. Right.

01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:00.899
Like some people even say a lot of investors

01:40:00.899 --> 01:40:03.939
say that this is an AI bubble. Yeah. Like they

01:40:03.939 --> 01:40:06.560
want people to pour a bunch of money into it.

01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:10.119
And it's really, it's really not everything that

01:40:10.119 --> 01:40:12.880
they say it is. Not that it's not dangerous and

01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:15.079
that it's this water that it won't be dangerous,

01:40:15.180 --> 01:40:18.380
but there's no THC in this. I'm not worried about

01:40:18.380 --> 01:40:22.220
AI because, because we can see though. Okay.

01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:24.119
I thought I just got really high out of nowhere,

01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:26.119
but maybe that was just delayed because AI needs

01:40:26.119 --> 01:40:29.239
power. Right. And he's a lot of power. We can

01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:31.500
cut the power to it. And the thing is, is like,

01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:34.979
Right now. If you look at a really smart human,

01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:40.380
like AI, you can't say to AI, oh, make me a rap

01:40:40.380 --> 01:40:42.520
because it's going to rap like somebody with

01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:47.000
autism. It doesn't have emotion like humans.

01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:51.279
It's not influenced by hormones. It's not influenced

01:40:51.279 --> 01:40:53.279
by other physical conditions. It doesn't have

01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:56.460
a sex drive. It doesn't have a libido. So it's

01:40:56.460 --> 01:41:00.180
literally just like brain function. Dan, I pray

01:41:00.180 --> 01:41:04.239
to God you're right. It is. You very well baby,

01:41:04.380 --> 01:41:07.779
too. Because ultimately, this YouTube video,

01:41:07.899 --> 01:41:09.779
which is where most of it comes from, it's all

01:41:09.779 --> 01:41:11.439
these like -minded people. They're critiquing

01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:13.199
a paper that was written by somebody who's well

01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.439
-versed in AI. But the person who made this video

01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:18.739
very well could have just done it to make it

01:41:18.739 --> 01:41:21.060
very scary. But it's very good at conveying the

01:41:21.060 --> 01:41:23.359
message that it does. But you're right. There

01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:27.699
is other arguments against it. But if it is true...

01:41:28.109 --> 01:41:29.930
It's something we're going to want to start talking

01:41:29.930 --> 01:41:33.630
about now because where they're at, like when

01:41:33.630 --> 01:41:35.890
these chat, when these chat bots get made and

01:41:35.890 --> 01:41:38.689
even just these AIs in general, they make their

01:41:38.689 --> 01:41:41.090
next model behind closed doors. They're fed all

01:41:41.090 --> 01:41:43.970
the information of the internet, but they can't

01:41:43.970 --> 01:41:46.630
exude it outwardly. They're not available to

01:41:46.630 --> 01:41:49.170
the public. They can't change anything outside

01:41:49.170 --> 01:41:52.529
of that company's walls. Unless they get really

01:41:52.529 --> 01:41:54.590
fucking smart and can overrule it, which I don't

01:41:54.590 --> 01:41:56.270
think we're close to, by the way. I don't think

01:41:56.270 --> 01:41:58.250
that's going haywire and it's already happening.

01:41:58.510 --> 01:42:01.149
But who fucking knows? But regardless, we do

01:42:01.149 --> 01:42:03.430
still have a handle on it in that way. We could

01:42:03.430 --> 01:42:06.149
unplug it, but there's no way that that's going

01:42:06.149 --> 01:42:09.210
to. A couple areas where I think it could get

01:42:09.210 --> 01:42:11.930
extremely dangerous is, I've said this before

01:42:11.930 --> 01:42:13.430
on the podcast, so I don't want to go into it

01:42:13.430 --> 01:42:17.010
in too much depth. If you mash up AI... with

01:42:17.010 --> 01:42:19.510
genetic engineering, right? You allow it to have

01:42:19.510 --> 01:42:21.869
control over CRISPR, the genetic engineering

01:42:21.869 --> 01:42:24.329
tool. Yep. Then it can write its own DNA. Now

01:42:24.329 --> 01:42:27.750
it has a physical body, right? That's fucking

01:42:27.750 --> 01:42:30.710
dangerous. Yeah. That is extremely dangerous

01:42:30.710 --> 01:42:33.130
because now it's making a new species, right?

01:42:33.289 --> 01:42:35.909
And if the AI becomes more affiliated with that,

01:42:35.949 --> 01:42:39.300
then... Which it will be because that... genetically

01:42:39.300 --> 01:42:41.300
modified body is going to be way smarter than

01:42:41.300 --> 01:42:43.079
us the argument it's going to be able to convey

01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:45.239
to the ai is going to be a lot better than ours

01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:47.239
and ultimately they're going to be able to code

01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:49.319
and they're going to be able to code an ai that's

01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:50.899
going to realize that humanity is a waste of

01:42:50.899 --> 01:42:52.680
time get fucking rid of them let's build more

01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:55.779
of us and let's make better us's right but that

01:42:55.779 --> 01:42:57.600
a lot of that stuff you're talking about that

01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.199
comes from like human emotion and it comes from

01:43:00.199 --> 01:43:03.079
sex drive like a lot of the problems like really

01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:05.430
like when people hear the word libido They think

01:43:05.430 --> 01:43:07.029
that it means, oh, that's just your sex drive.

01:43:07.090 --> 01:43:09.149
But that's actually your life force, right? Your

01:43:09.149 --> 01:43:11.310
sex drive is your life force, right? You notice

01:43:11.310 --> 01:43:13.529
like when your sex drive goes down, like your

01:43:13.529 --> 01:43:15.390
drive for everything goes down. Yeah, you get

01:43:15.390 --> 01:43:17.050
depressed. Your ambition goes down, right? So

01:43:17.050 --> 01:43:20.609
they're one and the same. AI does not have that.

01:43:20.750 --> 01:43:23.470
So we don't have to worry about that thing. I

01:43:23.470 --> 01:43:26.229
think where AI could, another way that AI could

01:43:26.229 --> 01:43:29.409
be really dangerous is AI is going to connect

01:43:29.409 --> 01:43:33.109
dots. long before we connect them things about

01:43:33.109 --> 01:43:35.430
the world the physical has massive repercussions

01:43:35.430 --> 01:43:37.750
specifically with like economy stock markets

01:43:37.750 --> 01:43:40.609
stuff like that that can cause massive meltdowns

01:43:40.609 --> 01:43:44.090
like you know new like rules and laws of physics

01:43:44.090 --> 01:43:47.069
it can figure out like anti -gravity stuff like

01:43:47.069 --> 01:43:50.590
that figure out wormholes it could it could very

01:43:50.590 --> 01:43:53.550
well prove the existence or non -existence of

01:43:53.550 --> 01:43:56.130
religion too which is that's going to cause a

01:43:56.130 --> 01:43:59.630
global catastrophe right if it does which If

01:43:59.630 --> 01:44:02.090
it's smart as it is in either of the options

01:44:02.090 --> 01:44:04.170
I mentioned, which I pray to fucking God it's

01:44:04.170 --> 01:44:07.369
not, that's going to cause a massive problem.

01:44:07.609 --> 01:44:09.810
Like if it can prove the multiverse, if it can

01:44:09.810 --> 01:44:12.829
prove that there's no life after death and there's

01:44:12.829 --> 01:44:15.590
no afterlife and it can show us factual information

01:44:15.590 --> 01:44:19.029
of that that derails all of the global religions,

01:44:19.369 --> 01:44:22.630
that's going to put humanity in a really scary

01:44:22.630 --> 01:44:25.529
spot because then... Yeah, but they're still

01:44:25.529 --> 01:44:27.569
going to deny it though. Like what does anybody's...

01:44:28.370 --> 01:44:30.510
Yeah, I mean, certain people will deny it. Like

01:44:30.510 --> 01:44:32.250
they have done for thousands of years. Yeah,

01:44:32.329 --> 01:44:36.050
but if it's able to put it in a perspective that's

01:44:36.050 --> 01:44:39.270
way better than, like, you could to Tyler, of,

01:44:39.369 --> 01:44:41.510
like, how you believe that religion doesn't exist

01:44:41.510 --> 01:44:43.569
and how, like, there's no afterlife and all this

01:44:43.569 --> 01:44:45.029
stuff. Well, Tyler would just say it's a robot.

01:44:45.369 --> 01:44:46.750
No, I'm just saying up to this point, we have

01:44:46.750 --> 01:44:48.909
no... Yeah, I don't trust robots. We have no

01:44:48.909 --> 01:44:52.390
definitive... Exactly. Yeah, but if it's able

01:44:52.390 --> 01:44:54.210
to present you with something that proves it,

01:44:54.270 --> 01:44:56.829
and obviously what that thing is, we can't...

01:44:58.460 --> 01:45:00.899
people with evolution and they still believe

01:45:00.899 --> 01:45:03.399
in adam and eve no you presented fucking you

01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:06.500
can still tell evolution dude that shit pisses

01:45:06.500 --> 01:45:08.100
me off that argument that you just had right

01:45:08.100 --> 01:45:10.539
there that shit pisses me off kc evolution is

01:45:10.539 --> 01:45:12.939
not as deep as people make it out to be it's

01:45:12.939 --> 01:45:15.180
natural selection that's all that evolution ever

01:45:15.180 --> 01:45:18.380
has been it's One person's taller and they seem

01:45:18.380 --> 01:45:20.260
more attractive because they have better survival

01:45:20.260 --> 01:45:22.840
instincts. Get fucked. Okay, sorry. Bad example.

01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:26.699
Get fucked. Bad example. I'm sorry, Dan. Jesus

01:45:26.699 --> 01:45:28.720
fucking Christ, bro. I swear to God, that was

01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:33.979
not... on purpose any other thing but no you're

01:45:33.979 --> 01:45:35.640
just you're gonna sleep with the most suitable

01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:37.720
partner right and you're going to produce more

01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:39.640
of the offspring and the male is going to be

01:45:39.640 --> 01:45:41.579
looking at the female the same way what characteristics

01:45:41.579 --> 01:45:43.640
they that they had that's better than others

01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:46.220
and you have that ultimately we're kind of weird

01:45:46.220 --> 01:45:48.460
because we're the only fucking species that doesn't

01:45:48.460 --> 01:45:51.520
do that but we still do to a certain extent like

01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:55.000
the majority of humanity does but Natural selection

01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.560
does continue, but that's all evolution is. It's

01:45:57.560 --> 01:45:59.260
all just natural selection. At the end of the

01:45:59.260 --> 01:46:01.939
day, all evolution is, is just people who have

01:46:01.939 --> 01:46:05.680
mutant genes that reproduce and pass those mutant

01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:08.159
genes down to the next person. That's all evolution

01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:11.760
is. It's not like there's like some little clock

01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.380
that's improving things behind the scenes. It's

01:46:14.380 --> 01:46:17.279
just certain traits pop up when you have enough

01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:20.260
offspring and those become more desirable and

01:46:20.260 --> 01:46:24.210
they reproduce because they're better. at hunting.

01:46:24.350 --> 01:46:26.989
They're better at whatever it is. They, they're

01:46:26.989 --> 01:46:29.210
a more desirable partner for the opposite sex.

01:46:29.289 --> 01:46:31.149
That's how fucking natural selection happens.

01:46:31.229 --> 01:46:33.649
So you would say it's a, it's a fact, not a theory,

01:46:33.770 --> 01:46:36.850
but I don't, I don't see how that disproves that

01:46:36.850 --> 01:46:40.010
it's not true. Yeah. But at the same time though,

01:46:40.069 --> 01:46:42.369
there's a lot, I mean, I, I'm not coming to the

01:46:42.369 --> 01:46:45.210
defense of religion because both, I just don't

01:46:45.210 --> 01:46:49.109
see how I think is a reach because yes, there's

01:46:49.109 --> 01:46:50.949
a lot of things and Tyler will be the first to

01:46:50.949 --> 01:46:53.479
tell and I'll fucking, step up for him here a

01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:55.819
lot of the shit in most of these fucking religions

01:46:55.819 --> 01:46:58.039
is metaphorical they're not they don't mean it

01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:01.500
verbatim or they did mean it literally and they've

01:47:01.500 --> 01:47:04.359
backtracked and they've realized like well we

01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.199
should still believe in a higher power because

01:47:06.199 --> 01:47:08.159
that's good for your mental health which it fucking

01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:12.140
is like it it's that that's undeniable whether

01:47:12.140 --> 01:47:13.899
or not you believe that or not when you stop

01:47:13.899 --> 01:47:16.199
believing in a higher power people start worshiping

01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:18.479
the state And that's how you get like communist

01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:20.979
countries. And no, it's really, it's like, or

01:47:20.979 --> 01:47:23.960
you, or you worship yourself. You're going, right.

01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:28.939
Yeah. Well, I mean, in a way, yeah. Cause you

01:47:28.939 --> 01:47:30.939
need to have a drive towards something. And I

01:47:30.939 --> 01:47:32.520
think that the way to be like the best human,

01:47:32.539 --> 01:47:36.720
Tyler's going to probably be singing that I'm

01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:38.819
fucking coming to your defense. And in a way

01:47:38.819 --> 01:47:42.140
I am, I really am. But like rooting for a higher

01:47:42.140 --> 01:47:46.239
power. kind of does make you just a better person

01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:48.239
there's more of a sense of community there if

01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:50.659
you don't believe and i'm not necessarily saying

01:47:50.659 --> 01:47:52.800
that i do because i'm again when it comes to

01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:54.899
this shit because me and casey argue about this

01:47:54.899 --> 01:47:56.779
in the group chat for those listeners who don't

01:47:56.779 --> 01:47:58.500
get to see our group chat which is probably you

01:47:58.500 --> 01:48:01.100
argue about it plenty in here too i know if they

01:48:01.100 --> 01:48:05.220
listen but like me and casey always argue the

01:48:05.220 --> 01:48:08.920
facts but casey always hits it with some fucking

01:48:08.920 --> 01:48:11.210
thing being like well it's a book That happened

01:48:11.210 --> 01:48:15.329
2 ,000 years ago. Also, there's a whole bunch

01:48:15.329 --> 01:48:17.890
of other religions out there that are just doing

01:48:17.890 --> 01:48:20.029
this shit. Like, why do you think that Muslims

01:48:20.029 --> 01:48:22.329
are wrong? Why do you think that the Jews are

01:48:22.329 --> 01:48:26.029
wrong? It's like, fucking, there's so many things

01:48:26.029 --> 01:48:29.449
that can back up Christianity. But you think

01:48:29.449 --> 01:48:32.609
that they're going to hell, right? Yes. I think

01:48:32.609 --> 01:48:35.609
that it's not my fucking, it's not my choice.

01:48:35.689 --> 01:48:38.510
I'm not saying that they're... In my personal,

01:48:38.670 --> 01:48:41.470
I personally think they should go to hell in,

01:48:41.489 --> 01:48:44.909
in, in the actual things. If, if, if Islam is

01:48:44.909 --> 01:48:47.909
correct, I'm going to hell. If, if Judaism is

01:48:47.909 --> 01:48:50.729
correct, I'm going to hell again. This is where

01:48:50.729 --> 01:48:53.010
I'm terrible, terrible way to think. That's not

01:48:53.010 --> 01:48:55.050
a terrible way to think Casey. Cause if you,

01:48:55.069 --> 01:48:58.010
if like seriously, why would God send half of

01:48:58.010 --> 01:49:00.630
his children to hell? Because you have to fucking

01:49:00.630 --> 01:49:02.869
understand because they worshiped him the wrong

01:49:02.869 --> 01:49:06.819
way. They weren't worshiping him. They all worship

01:49:06.819 --> 01:49:09.000
the same God. They don't worship the same God,

01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:12.739
Casey. There's a difference. So there's the Jews

01:49:12.739 --> 01:49:16.199
who worship God, but they deny Christ divinity.

01:49:16.680 --> 01:49:20.159
That's the problem with that, right? They deny

01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:22.619
Christ divinity, so that's why the Jews are wrong

01:49:22.619 --> 01:49:27.039
in the Christian's book. Islam, after us, said

01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:31.539
that Muhammad is a more, is a more prophetic,

01:49:31.760 --> 01:49:36.029
I can't ever say that word, prophetic. Prophetic.

01:49:36.029 --> 01:49:38.189
Prophetic, I think that's right. Prosthetic.

01:49:38.550 --> 01:49:41.909
Prosthetic. Prophetic. Jesus had a prosthetic

01:49:41.909 --> 01:49:47.350
leg. But they think that Muhammad is a better

01:49:47.350 --> 01:49:50.350
prophet than Jesus and that what he says overwrites

01:49:50.350 --> 01:49:54.789
Jesus in a lot of ways. And that is also heretical

01:49:54.789 --> 01:49:58.729
in the Christian churches. So the reason why

01:49:58.729 --> 01:50:03.489
these other religions would go to hell and what

01:50:03.489 --> 01:50:06.789
you're saying with that is because in each religion,

01:50:06.829 --> 01:50:08.829
the other religions go to hell because they're

01:50:08.829 --> 01:50:12.010
not following the rules correctly. But what if

01:50:12.010 --> 01:50:14.810
I believe in reincarnation and I get reincarnated?

01:50:15.539 --> 01:50:18.119
What if you believe in this flying spaghetti

01:50:18.119 --> 01:50:20.979
monster? It doesn't matter what you believe in.

01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:24.819
Casey, your problem is that you fucking always

01:50:24.819 --> 01:50:28.000
do this shit where you always come at this shit

01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:32.000
with like, well, what about this? Well, if this

01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:36.340
is the thing, then if X is real, then Y can't

01:50:36.340 --> 01:50:39.399
be. It's like, if X is real, that doesn't necessarily

01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:42.489
mean Y isn't. I want to say, I'm not coming in

01:50:42.489 --> 01:50:44.689
here saying that I'm a Christian. The only way

01:50:44.689 --> 01:50:46.590
that I was relating religion to this was what

01:50:46.590 --> 01:50:50.090
Dan was saying. I'm aware you're a very staunch

01:50:50.090 --> 01:50:52.829
agnostic. Just believing in a higher power is

01:50:52.829 --> 01:50:55.090
good for humanity. It is good for humanity. Because

01:50:55.090 --> 01:50:56.750
otherwise you're focusing on yourself or the

01:50:56.750 --> 01:50:59.869
state. You have to find some drive. Casey thinks

01:50:59.869 --> 01:51:03.449
that his politics are his God in the way that

01:51:03.449 --> 01:51:06.989
I think God is my God. Because Casey thinks that

01:51:06.989 --> 01:51:09.470
the only thing that matters is this earth right

01:51:09.470 --> 01:51:12.060
now. Joe Biden? your pope casey joe biden is

01:51:12.060 --> 01:51:16.460
his pope but who's your pope kamala my pope is

01:51:16.460 --> 01:51:20.979
obama actually yeah but but casey has this fucking

01:51:20.979 --> 01:51:24.420
look at life because i i look at life as like

01:51:24.420 --> 01:51:28.510
okay this is a This is the first part. The second

01:51:28.510 --> 01:51:30.789
part is what the actual important thing is. But

01:51:30.789 --> 01:51:33.409
you're saying that he's going to send millions

01:51:33.409 --> 01:51:36.470
of Arabic people to hell because they didn't

01:51:36.470 --> 01:51:39.890
worship him. They didn't worship him the right

01:51:39.890 --> 01:51:41.949
way. He's not sending anybody to hell. But you

01:51:41.949 --> 01:51:43.890
said they're going to hell. They're sending themselves

01:51:43.890 --> 01:51:47.029
to hell. God never sends anybody to hell. People

01:51:47.029 --> 01:51:49.409
send themselves to hell. Because they read the

01:51:49.409 --> 01:51:51.369
wrong book. Because they did the wrong thing.

01:51:51.909 --> 01:51:54.869
Casey, it's like fucking, if you obey the laws

01:51:54.869 --> 01:51:57.409
in America, You obey the laws in America. Guess

01:51:57.409 --> 01:51:59.029
what? If you go to the Middle East and you don't

01:51:59.029 --> 01:52:01.550
obey, you follow the same laws that America has,

01:52:01.670 --> 01:52:06.270
you'll be arrested in Arabic countries because

01:52:06.270 --> 01:52:07.850
they don't have the same fucking laws. But how

01:52:07.850 --> 01:52:09.710
would these people know about the Bible? They

01:52:09.710 --> 01:52:12.250
aren't. Everybody knows about the fucking Bible,

01:52:12.350 --> 01:52:16.449
Casey. They are taught to follow the Quran. You're

01:52:16.449 --> 01:52:18.289
taught to follow the Quran. You're taught to

01:52:18.289 --> 01:52:20.409
follow the fucking leftist doctrine that's shoved

01:52:20.409 --> 01:52:21.789
down your throat every day. So this is where

01:52:21.789 --> 01:52:23.569
I start to back Casey up. I'm not going to lie.

01:52:24.130 --> 01:52:26.430
Because if you're born into a life where you

01:52:26.430 --> 01:52:29.810
were born into your life that made you Christian,

01:52:29.970 --> 01:52:31.750
it's no different than somebody being born into

01:52:31.750 --> 01:52:33.789
their life where they're devout. Tyler, what

01:52:33.789 --> 01:52:36.409
would you do if Muslims were right and you were

01:52:36.409 --> 01:52:39.720
wrong? Then I'd be in hell. Then I'd be in hell.

01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:42.760
That's a fair concession. Do you think that you

01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:45.100
deserve to be in hell if you devoted your life

01:52:45.100 --> 01:52:46.479
to God? If I'm wrong and I devoted my life to

01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:48.880
the wrong God, yeah, I do belong in hell. But

01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:51.539
I don't. I follow the God that I think is right

01:52:51.539 --> 01:52:54.340
and the God that I think is real. I'm not going

01:52:54.340 --> 01:52:56.340
to hell. Well, that's the part that's wild to

01:52:56.340 --> 01:53:00.850
me. That's the part that's wild to you. You said,

01:53:00.989 --> 01:53:02.850
what happens if I'm wrong? Then I go to fucking

01:53:02.850 --> 01:53:04.710
hell. I mean, isn't the point of religion to

01:53:04.710 --> 01:53:07.329
be a good person and to worship God? Isn't that

01:53:07.329 --> 01:53:09.750
what Muslims are doing? No, they're not worshiping

01:53:09.750 --> 01:53:10.789
God. In the way that they're taught to do it?

01:53:10.789 --> 01:53:13.210
No, they're being heretical about it. That's

01:53:13.210 --> 01:53:15.609
the problem. They're not following the rules

01:53:15.609 --> 01:53:19.229
correctly. I don't think that Islam in and of

01:53:19.229 --> 01:53:21.529
itself is a bad religion. It has its heretics

01:53:21.529 --> 01:53:24.510
the same way that Christians and Catholics and

01:53:24.510 --> 01:53:26.810
every other religion pretty much ever that's

01:53:26.810 --> 01:53:27.869
been around long enough. What I'm trying to say

01:53:27.869 --> 01:53:31.050
is that Islamists would call me heretical. Jews

01:53:31.050 --> 01:53:33.289
would call me heretical. Just like I would call

01:53:33.289 --> 01:53:36.470
them heretical. Why when I call something heretical,

01:53:36.569 --> 01:53:38.970
you attack it and say it's evil, but when anybody

01:53:38.970 --> 01:53:42.010
else would say that my side is heretical, you're

01:53:42.010 --> 01:53:44.390
like, well, it's just their thing. The problem

01:53:44.390 --> 01:53:48.260
is that you don't have the same... like like

01:53:48.260 --> 01:53:51.560
vitriol towards other religions that you do christianity

01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:55.100
if you were equally against islam equally against

01:53:55.100 --> 01:53:57.939
judaism oh no i am i just argue with you because

01:53:57.939 --> 01:54:01.539
you're christian if he was fucking muslim i would

01:54:01.539 --> 01:54:04.640
argue with him too but but the problem is is

01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:07.260
that there's it's it's not just you but in general

01:54:07.260 --> 01:54:10.619
it feels like people feel they have the right

01:54:10.619 --> 01:54:14.130
to attack christianity But they don't have the,

01:54:14.189 --> 01:54:16.369
they can't attack the other religions because

01:54:16.369 --> 01:54:18.289
you're attacking a quote unquote minority. Right.

01:54:18.430 --> 01:54:21.250
Oh, I have no problem. I have no problem attacking

01:54:21.250 --> 01:54:24.550
Islam and Judaism. I'm not saying you specifically

01:54:24.550 --> 01:54:27.550
at this point. I'm saying in general. In general,

01:54:27.609 --> 01:54:30.630
you can fucking, South Park has had Jesus in

01:54:30.630 --> 01:54:33.750
their fucking thing for how long? Fucking, they

01:54:33.750 --> 01:54:36.289
have Jesus as a regularly reoccurring character.

01:54:36.529 --> 01:54:39.920
Dude, Mohammed is a pedophile. Yes. He fucked

01:54:39.920 --> 01:54:41.560
a nine -year -old. Yes, he did. And you know

01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:44.100
what? You can't say that in the United Kingdom

01:54:44.100 --> 01:54:46.760
without them saying that it's hate speech. Yes.

01:54:46.800 --> 01:54:49.600
Okay. Okay. I agree with you there. But can you

01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:55.319
say that Jesus was not born of a virgin and Jesus

01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:57.899
was... You could pretty much say Jesus was anything

01:54:57.899 --> 01:55:01.699
in UK, right? You could say the same thing that

01:55:01.699 --> 01:55:03.880
you're saying about Islam, about Jesus, and that's

01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:05.439
protected speech. Can you say that Jesus was

01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:07.239
a pedophile? I don't know about that. You can

01:55:07.239 --> 01:55:10.420
say it. I'm not going to agree with you and I'm

01:55:10.420 --> 01:55:12.840
going to say you're wrong, but you can say that.

01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:15.619
But you can't say Muhammad is a pedophile. I

01:55:15.619 --> 01:55:17.699
get both of your takes here. I get both of them.

01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:20.020
But you can't say Muhammad is a pedophile because

01:55:20.020 --> 01:55:24.300
Islam is a protected class. Because in America,

01:55:24.340 --> 01:55:26.140
you're supposed to have freedom of religion.

01:55:27.020 --> 01:55:29.880
not freedom from religion. That's the problem

01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:33.239
here because everybody in, in, in your field

01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:35.979
is saying that we should have freedom from religion,

01:55:36.100 --> 01:55:39.899
not freedom of religion. You think that God should

01:55:39.899 --> 01:55:42.020
be taken out of literally everything. Everything

01:55:42.020 --> 01:55:44.539
should become, I get separation of church and

01:55:44.539 --> 01:55:47.460
state, but even in like egg and everything, you're

01:55:47.460 --> 01:55:50.489
like, If any Christian protesters go out there,

01:55:50.590 --> 01:55:52.329
they're like, oh, it's the Christian protesters.

01:55:52.510 --> 01:55:54.590
But if the Islamic protesters go out there and

01:55:54.590 --> 01:55:56.229
do the same thing that Christian protesters are

01:55:56.229 --> 01:55:58.310
doing, everybody would be like, good for them.

01:55:58.729 --> 01:56:02.550
Good for them. I've never seen any Islamic protesters.

01:56:02.649 --> 01:56:04.590
There was a shit ton of them in New York City

01:56:04.590 --> 01:56:06.970
a fucking, like, a month ago. Oh, like protesting

01:56:06.970 --> 01:56:09.390
against the Jews? Protesting against the Jews,

01:56:09.449 --> 01:56:10.949
protesting against, like, the city and shit.

01:56:11.149 --> 01:56:12.710
Well, if they're talking about their made -up

01:56:12.710 --> 01:56:14.510
story, I'm going to say the same exact thing

01:56:14.510 --> 01:56:18.130
about them. I'm not saying you specifically,

01:56:18.369 --> 01:56:21.149
Casey. I'm saying in general. Like, I don't know

01:56:21.149 --> 01:56:24.630
if you're getting that. Like, I feel like there's

01:56:24.630 --> 01:56:28.869
a double standard in, like, respect held for

01:56:28.869 --> 01:56:33.050
religions. Because if you're a Christian, it

01:56:33.050 --> 01:56:35.369
seems like it's open season where people can

01:56:35.369 --> 01:56:38.909
constantly just, like, poke at you. And, like,

01:56:39.310 --> 01:56:43.699
as a Catholic, people, you included, constantly

01:56:43.699 --> 01:56:46.199
are trying to poke holes in everything that I

01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:48.619
ever believe in. If you did that with almost

01:56:48.619 --> 01:56:51.560
any other religion on the planet. everybody would

01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:53.899
be on your fucking ass. The one thing I will

01:56:53.899 --> 01:56:56.140
say is, just to come to Casey's defense, I don't

01:56:56.140 --> 01:56:57.840
think he does it because you're Catholic. I think

01:56:57.840 --> 01:56:59.600
he does it because it's you, and he's friends

01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:00.819
with you, and he knows that he can date it with

01:57:00.819 --> 01:57:01.859
you. He also does it because he's an asshole.

01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:04.600
Yeah, and he's trying to piss you off. You could

01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:06.819
be Muslim in case he would be poking holes in

01:57:06.819 --> 01:57:09.500
it the same way. But I'm trying to say, in general,

01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:11.380
I'm not talking about just Casey. Well, yeah,

01:57:11.399 --> 01:57:14.100
if we invited any stranger off the street and

01:57:14.100 --> 01:57:16.359
Casey tore into him over their fucking religion,

01:57:16.560 --> 01:57:18.539
we'd have a problem on our hands. Do you not

01:57:18.539 --> 01:57:21.329
think that people don't? tear into me and criticize

01:57:21.329 --> 01:57:24.489
my beliefs because I'm atheist? Like, in the

01:57:24.489 --> 01:57:28.109
same way that you're Catholic? I 100 % think

01:57:28.109 --> 01:57:31.869
that. They do. They do. I get lit into by some

01:57:31.869 --> 01:57:34.350
of my coworkers for being agnostic. I do it to

01:57:34.350 --> 01:57:37.350
you because you're fucked. It's a counterattack

01:57:37.350 --> 01:57:41.750
to your counterattack. To me and you, we're at

01:57:41.750 --> 01:57:45.029
constant. We are in constant war, me and you,

01:57:45.069 --> 01:57:47.149
over religion. At the end of the day, I think

01:57:47.149 --> 01:57:50.619
you two just debate. I mean, I think you both

01:57:50.619 --> 01:57:53.079
rage bait one another. If you go into like a

01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:54.399
professional setting. Casey's more a rage baiter.

01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:57.239
He's more a master baiter here. If you go into

01:57:57.239 --> 01:57:58.920
a setting where you don't know people and it's

01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:00.479
like a professional setting and you say you're

01:58:00.479 --> 01:58:02.920
an atheist, most people are going to look down

01:58:02.920 --> 01:58:06.840
on you. That's not true at all. That's 100 %

01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:09.180
not true. It's still a taboo. It's not a taboo.

01:58:09.220 --> 01:58:11.079
It is. What was the point you just made there?

01:58:11.159 --> 01:58:13.060
Say that again. That being an atheist is still

01:58:13.060 --> 01:58:15.470
a taboo. a taboo like people will look down on

01:58:15.470 --> 01:58:18.170
you not you don't believe in god not as bad as

01:58:18.170 --> 01:58:21.510
it used to be but it still is it still is i think

01:58:21.510 --> 01:58:24.970
just overall most people just just because of

01:58:24.970 --> 01:58:27.369
like the age of social media and we've all just

01:58:27.369 --> 01:58:29.289
become so much more self -centered people just

01:58:29.289 --> 01:58:31.430
don't give as much of a fuck about other people

01:58:31.430 --> 01:58:33.329
anymore like they just kind of are like oh yeah

01:58:33.329 --> 01:58:35.750
call yourself whatever you want whether it be

01:58:35.750 --> 01:58:38.109
your gender your religion like i don't really

01:58:38.109 --> 01:58:40.090
give a fuck because it doesn't affect me that's

01:58:40.090 --> 01:58:42.779
most people's takes but some people Do take offense

01:58:42.779 --> 01:58:45.270
to shit. I think that we just live in a... in

01:58:45.270 --> 01:58:46.970
a country where you're kind of able to freely

01:58:46.970 --> 01:58:49.069
express that stuff to a certain extent. Like

01:58:49.069 --> 01:58:50.569
Casey's never going to have the arguments he

01:58:50.569 --> 01:58:52.630
has with you with some Joe Schmo on the street.

01:58:52.670 --> 01:58:54.229
I feel like that's the distinction there. But

01:58:54.229 --> 01:58:55.909
let's be real. That's how much they want to get

01:58:55.909 --> 01:58:58.050
into it. Yeah. They start coming at you for being

01:58:58.050 --> 01:58:59.909
an atheist. I'm sure you toss some shit back

01:58:59.909 --> 01:59:01.430
their way and you'd be well within your right

01:59:01.430 --> 01:59:04.750
to do so. Let's be real. If people like us, Casey,

01:59:04.810 --> 01:59:07.909
a staunch atheist, you're an agnostic. I'm a

01:59:07.909 --> 01:59:11.170
Catholic. Dan's an ex -Latter -day Saints, right?

01:59:11.470 --> 01:59:13.130
Jehovah's Witness. Jehovah's Witness. Mormon.

01:59:13.449 --> 01:59:16.880
Mormon. No. but I'm not even an atheist is the

01:59:16.880 --> 01:59:21.180
thing I'm an agnostic and you have to say you're

01:59:21.180 --> 01:59:24.000
an atheist because once you say that oh I believe

01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:28.500
in God just 0 .001 % people would be like oh

01:59:28.500 --> 01:59:31.460
so you meant that God might be real it's like

01:59:31.460 --> 01:59:34.989
yeah but I admit that anything could be real.

01:59:35.350 --> 01:59:39.609
A small chance. That's agnostic. Exactly. I'm

01:59:39.609 --> 01:59:41.949
going to bring up an argument that we had in

01:59:41.949 --> 01:59:44.529
the group chat here where you said something

01:59:44.529 --> 01:59:48.350
along the lines of, I said something along the

01:59:48.350 --> 01:59:51.949
lines of, in Islamic countries, I would not be

01:59:51.949 --> 01:59:54.430
able to display a crucifix that I wear around

01:59:54.430 --> 01:59:57.869
my neck without having issues. And you're like,

01:59:58.170 --> 02:00:00.449
then just take off the cross or just say that

02:00:00.449 --> 02:00:02.840
you're not a Christian when you're there. However,

02:00:02.979 --> 02:00:05.140
in the Bible, it literally says, if you deny

02:00:05.140 --> 02:00:07.460
me before man, I will deny you before God. So

02:00:07.460 --> 02:00:09.000
I believe that that's more of a problem with

02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:11.460
the country in which that's happening. That's

02:00:11.460 --> 02:00:13.380
not coming to Casey's defense because he's taking

02:00:13.380 --> 02:00:15.239
another argument there. Because what I'm saying

02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:17.760
is like, like for, for there is a distinction

02:00:17.760 --> 02:00:20.239
to be made there. But for a person who is a Catholic,

02:00:20.319 --> 02:00:23.380
if you tell them, like, just say you're not a

02:00:23.380 --> 02:00:25.779
Catholic, that's basically saying throw out your

02:00:25.779 --> 02:00:29.960
entire religion to stay safe. So I think we should

02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.039
have freedom of religion. I don't think you should

02:00:32.039 --> 02:00:34.460
have to take off your cross or be attacked for

02:00:34.460 --> 02:00:39.079
it. I think it's a good thing to have a freedom

02:00:39.079 --> 02:00:41.939
of religion or non -religion in our country.

02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:48.340
The whole thing is that, and this is just a general

02:00:48.340 --> 02:00:50.619
fucking statement that makes sense and is an

02:00:50.619 --> 02:00:55.640
actual thing. The religions that we have are

02:00:55.640 --> 02:00:58.199
incapable of living with the other religions

02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:03.020
peacefully. That's a tale as old as time. I'm

02:01:03.020 --> 02:01:08.340
just reiterating that. The world that we live

02:01:08.340 --> 02:01:11.220
in, and we'll just go with the three main ones,

02:01:11.260 --> 02:01:15.199
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. All three of

02:01:15.199 --> 02:01:18.600
them have so many contradictions from each other

02:01:18.600 --> 02:01:21.899
that... There's no way they can live in harmony

02:01:21.899 --> 02:01:24.920
with each other in like a thing. If they ignore

02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:27.300
each other, yes. But if you keep like trying

02:01:27.300 --> 02:01:29.380
to force them or they keep coming into different

02:01:29.380 --> 02:01:32.020
neighborhoods or different countries, there's

02:01:32.020 --> 02:01:35.640
going to be issues that come up because the three

02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:38.279
different types of cultures and the three different

02:01:38.279 --> 02:01:41.239
like way of life can't match up with each other.

02:01:41.340 --> 02:01:45.579
There's differences that cannot be, that are

02:01:45.579 --> 02:01:47.600
just not going to be solved between those three.

02:01:47.739 --> 02:01:50.270
The one thing I do want to say, And again, I'm

02:01:50.270 --> 02:01:51.810
just playing devil's advocate on both of your

02:01:51.810 --> 02:01:53.409
sides. I feel like I've been doing a pretty good

02:01:53.409 --> 02:01:56.109
job playing middleman here. The one thing that

02:01:56.109 --> 02:01:58.109
I do take a little exception to what you said,

02:01:58.250 --> 02:02:02.439
Tyler, is that. you think how Casey always pokes

02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:04.119
holes in you and you don't poke holes in him.

02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:07.039
You have taken some shots at Casey before. They're

02:02:07.039 --> 02:02:08.800
just in a different way because for you, you

02:02:08.800 --> 02:02:10.819
say like, what the fuck are we here for? If there's

02:02:10.819 --> 02:02:13.060
not a higher power, which is, but he's a question,

02:02:13.500 --> 02:02:15.359
but that's an argument that makes sense to you

02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:17.399
because you're religious. When Casey says the

02:02:17.399 --> 02:02:19.539
same shit to you about like all this stuff that's

02:02:19.539 --> 02:02:21.340
in the Bible, that's been proven to not be true

02:02:21.340 --> 02:02:23.119
about like, even if you want to go back to like

02:02:23.119 --> 02:02:25.560
how we have like a heliocentric universe where

02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:27.199
like the earth was at the center of the universe,

02:02:27.260 --> 02:02:29.720
not necessarily what it says, but, but I know,

02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:31.880
but, But regardless, I'm just relating those

02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:34.000
two points. You poke holes at one another. And

02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:36.199
I'd even go so far as to say, and I'm probably

02:02:36.199 --> 02:02:38.000
going to stir the pot with this comment. I know

02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:39.380
you're not going to be happy about it, Tyler.

02:02:39.500 --> 02:02:41.819
But if there's a group that I think is even less

02:02:41.819 --> 02:02:46.020
protected than Catholics, it would be atheists.

02:02:46.340 --> 02:02:49.300
Because atheists, whenever they poke holes in

02:02:49.300 --> 02:02:54.000
a religion, they get told that it's hate speech

02:02:54.000 --> 02:02:56.520
because they're going against the religion. But

02:02:56.520 --> 02:02:59.899
when people go against atheists, They don't have

02:02:59.899 --> 02:03:02.100
that protection because they don't have a religion.

02:03:02.359 --> 02:03:04.880
Nobody gives a fuck if you criticize an atheist.

02:03:05.060 --> 02:03:08.560
I think the problem is the... You're right. Nobody

02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:13.180
gives a fuck. The problem with that is I don't

02:03:13.180 --> 02:03:15.279
have a problem with atheists. I really don't.

02:03:15.279 --> 02:03:17.750
I just think that they're lost. Like, and not

02:03:17.750 --> 02:03:19.710
in like, not in like, but can't you admit that

02:03:19.710 --> 02:03:21.250
that's a fucking problem though? Cause like if

02:03:21.250 --> 02:03:23.529
you are an atheist, like you can get ripped into

02:03:23.529 --> 02:03:25.909
and you don't have that like free speech defense

02:03:25.909 --> 02:03:28.029
there. I'm going to get to that with the point

02:03:28.029 --> 02:03:30.670
that I'm making though. The problem that I have

02:03:30.670 --> 02:03:34.109
with atheists is the atheist that I've ran into

02:03:34.109 --> 02:03:38.130
arguing online and stuff like that is like more

02:03:38.130 --> 02:03:41.409
like writers. Yeah. Yeah. More like writers.

02:03:41.590 --> 02:03:45.390
But like the, the, the smugness of internet atheist

02:03:45.390 --> 02:03:50.010
is, infuriating, like to the point where like,

02:03:50.090 --> 02:03:53.550
it feels like all they care about is quote unquote

02:03:53.550 --> 02:03:57.189
owning the, the, uh, the religious people. And

02:03:57.189 --> 02:04:00.489
like, it's, it's not, I, it's not that I, I,

02:04:00.489 --> 02:04:03.689
I dislike atheism as like a, as like a whole,

02:04:03.789 --> 02:04:05.869
or I hate you for being an atheist. It's just

02:04:05.869 --> 02:04:09.079
that. A vast majority of the atheists that I've

02:04:09.079 --> 02:04:12.380
personally interacted with have been smug pieces

02:04:12.380 --> 02:04:15.960
of shit. But yeah, that's an individual experience,

02:04:16.020 --> 02:04:18.020
though. Yeah, because like you could be an atheist

02:04:18.020 --> 02:04:21.220
like Casey and you can see it from the flip flop

02:04:21.220 --> 02:04:23.520
where you have all these smug Christians that

02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:25.020
think they know better than you that there's

02:04:25.020 --> 02:04:27.239
some higher power. The problem with those guys

02:04:27.239 --> 02:04:31.039
is that. I actively admonish the people who are

02:04:31.039 --> 02:04:33.840
like dickish, like fucking Christians. Well,

02:04:33.859 --> 02:04:35.939
nobody's coming after you. Yeah. Is what is,

02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:38.100
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Casey's

02:04:38.100 --> 02:04:40.399
not coming after you. He's critiquing the religion

02:04:40.399 --> 02:04:43.159
itself. He's not having, I mean, I guess if anything,

02:04:43.300 --> 02:04:45.520
yeah, Casey is directly attacking you because

02:04:45.520 --> 02:04:48.979
he's rage baiting you. But like it's, it's at

02:04:48.979 --> 02:04:50.939
the end of the day though, it's not a problem

02:04:50.939 --> 02:04:53.380
with the religion. It's just, you have beliefs

02:04:53.380 --> 02:04:56.020
towards the religion that when other people disagree

02:04:56.020 --> 02:04:58.260
with, you both think. that you're in the right

02:04:58.260 --> 02:05:00.340
and you're going to continue to fight for it.

02:05:00.380 --> 02:05:02.300
It's the same way as left wing versus right wing,

02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:04.439
which is fucking hysterical because you two are

02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:06.880
on the opposite sides of that spectrum too. But

02:05:06.880 --> 02:05:11.020
genuinely, I do want to touch on that because

02:05:11.020 --> 02:05:12.739
I don't think we've actually touched on it in

02:05:12.739 --> 02:05:14.760
the actual podcast. I feel like this is mostly

02:05:14.760 --> 02:05:17.960
a group chat thing. Genuinely, what's the fucking

02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:20.840
point if there is no God and there is no afterlife?

02:05:21.119 --> 02:05:23.130
And that's the question. genuinely what's the

02:05:23.130 --> 02:05:25.510
point yeah but that's the thing is that atheists

02:05:25.510 --> 02:05:27.430
believe that there doesn't necessarily have to

02:05:27.430 --> 02:05:29.689
be one i'm not saying that that's what i believe

02:05:29.689 --> 02:05:31.789
but that's what atheists believe if there was

02:05:31.789 --> 02:05:34.229
no point then what would be your point if there

02:05:34.229 --> 02:05:36.329
was no point then there is no point to live i'd

02:05:36.329 --> 02:05:38.250
probably kill myself and i believe that there's

02:05:38.250 --> 02:05:40.109
a chance that both of what you're saying so you

02:05:40.109 --> 02:05:42.090
don't you don't think that life is necessary

02:05:42.090 --> 02:05:45.500
to live if there's not god if there's If there

02:05:45.500 --> 02:05:48.420
is no God, there is no reason to be a good person.

02:05:48.520 --> 02:05:51.899
Bro, I'm on team fucking higher power. I'm right

02:05:51.899 --> 02:05:54.720
there. I'm fucking all for it. I fucking pray

02:05:54.720 --> 02:05:57.300
to God that there's a God. And I hope that because

02:05:57.300 --> 02:06:00.319
I'm a good person in my day -to -day life that

02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:02.539
I go to a heaven if there is one. I hope I don't

02:06:02.539 --> 02:06:05.359
get sent to hell. But at the same point, I came

02:06:05.359 --> 02:06:08.260
from kind of like a background where unlike...

02:06:08.939 --> 02:06:12.819
Unlike you and Dan, like my parents were religious,

02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:15.239
but they kind of like not necessarily like didn't

02:06:15.239 --> 02:06:17.039
believe, but they sort of like fell out of religion

02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:18.939
and didn't subject me or to my brother to it.

02:06:19.000 --> 02:06:20.760
So me and my brother are both of like an agnostic

02:06:20.760 --> 02:06:23.659
opinion where we don't necessarily believe in

02:06:23.659 --> 02:06:26.460
any certain God. We hope one exists and we hope

02:06:26.460 --> 02:06:29.779
that by being good people, we're rewarded. They're

02:06:29.779 --> 02:06:32.479
not even rewarded, just not punished at the end

02:06:32.479 --> 02:06:35.630
of our life for it. And like, I don't, I think

02:06:35.630 --> 02:06:37.850
that it would be a pretty fucking sick joke if

02:06:37.850 --> 02:06:40.609
I was born into a world where I was born in a

02:06:40.609 --> 02:06:42.890
country, like I was born in the US and I was

02:06:42.890 --> 02:06:45.210
born into a Catholic family where Catholicism

02:06:45.210 --> 02:06:47.409
wasn't necessarily pushed in, pushed on. I mean,

02:06:47.430 --> 02:06:49.390
I guess it was pushed on to me. I went to church

02:06:49.390 --> 02:06:51.329
all the time. I was baptized. I was born with

02:06:51.329 --> 02:06:54.369
that religion on my birth certificate. And it's,

02:06:54.369 --> 02:06:56.050
well, not necessarily written, but I was born

02:06:56.050 --> 02:06:59.229
into that life regardless. And if I was just

02:06:59.229 --> 02:07:01.369
born into the wrong family in the wrong country,

02:07:01.390 --> 02:07:05.170
and let's say like Islam's right, And I go to

02:07:05.170 --> 02:07:08.609
like fucking whatever Muslim hell is or whatever

02:07:08.609 --> 02:07:10.109
the Quran says, I'm not going to pretend like

02:07:10.109 --> 02:07:13.310
I know. Like I'd be fucking, I'd be, I think

02:07:13.310 --> 02:07:15.449
that's a pretty fucked up world to be in. It's

02:07:15.449 --> 02:07:17.010
like, you're a good person your whole life, but

02:07:17.010 --> 02:07:18.609
you were born in the wrong country and you have

02:07:18.609 --> 02:07:20.970
these beliefs subjected on you. That's pretty

02:07:20.970 --> 02:07:23.329
fucked up. That's, that's really fucked up. I

02:07:23.329 --> 02:07:25.109
get what you're saying. Like how you're like,

02:07:25.189 --> 02:07:27.590
oh, then I guess I'm going to hell then. I think

02:07:27.590 --> 02:07:29.649
that's fucked up. That's not just something I'm

02:07:29.649 --> 02:07:32.350
all right. That's eternity of like punishment

02:07:32.350 --> 02:07:36.460
and, pain and suffering for something that was

02:07:36.460 --> 02:07:38.600
completely unrelated to me and i don't want to

02:07:38.600 --> 02:07:40.579
believe in that that's fucked up that's why i'm

02:07:40.579 --> 02:07:43.199
agnostic i just hope there's a higher power out

02:07:43.199 --> 02:07:45.159
there that if you're a good person you go to

02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:47.159
a better place when you die or at least you don't

02:07:47.159 --> 02:07:49.619
get punished for it that's what i hope for but

02:07:49.619 --> 02:07:52.199
i don't know so i don't act like i do for that's

02:07:52.199 --> 02:07:55.000
where i'm at for catholicism at least there is

02:07:55.000 --> 02:07:57.420
a place for people who are good people in life

02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:00.479
but they did not accept God. Yeah, it's purgatory,

02:08:00.479 --> 02:08:03.359
which is punishment. Dude, that's fucking punishment.

02:08:03.479 --> 02:08:05.560
You're waiting around for it? Most Catholics

02:08:05.560 --> 02:08:08.420
go to purgatory. Yeah, that's great. That's fucked

02:08:08.420 --> 02:08:11.420
up, though. The solitary confinement in prison

02:08:11.420 --> 02:08:14.079
is punishment? Exactly. In purgatory, you have

02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:17.140
nothing showing you to go the right way. You're

02:08:17.140 --> 02:08:19.079
kind of just sitting in fucking nowhere until

02:08:19.079 --> 02:08:22.439
you decide. It's not a punishment. It's a fucking

02:08:22.439 --> 02:08:25.739
journey. It's a journey to get... to heaven.

02:08:25.920 --> 02:08:28.399
You're not punished. You're literally just continuing

02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:31.779
your journey to keep going. You can't go into

02:08:31.779 --> 02:08:35.060
heaven and not be... So you gotta spend 10 ,000

02:08:35.060 --> 02:08:37.399
years on some fucking journey because you got

02:08:37.399 --> 02:08:41.279
born in America instead of fucking wherever the

02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:44.619
fuck is real, fucking Afghanistan. You gotta

02:08:44.619 --> 02:08:46.380
go on that journey just because you were born

02:08:46.380 --> 02:08:49.399
somewhere else? That's fucked up to me. I disagree

02:08:49.399 --> 02:08:51.439
with you on that. I get your point. I get what

02:08:51.439 --> 02:08:53.140
you're saying, but I still think that's fucked

02:08:53.140 --> 02:08:56.439
up. I hope it's not true. That's just my opinion

02:08:56.439 --> 02:08:59.100
on it. I get what you're saying. If that is true,

02:08:59.180 --> 02:09:01.079
I'm not saying that it's not because I'm not

02:09:01.079 --> 02:09:03.760
any the wiser than you are, but I don't believe

02:09:03.760 --> 02:09:06.560
that that's fair. I would hope that a God that

02:09:06.560 --> 02:09:09.859
we have is fair. That's all I'm saying. I don't

02:09:09.859 --> 02:09:11.399
believe it's fair. You may believe it's fair,

02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:12.760
but that's something that we're just going to

02:09:12.760 --> 02:09:13.739
disagree on. God's more fair than you fucking

02:09:13.739 --> 02:09:18.680
realize. That's the thing. There's so many things

02:09:18.680 --> 02:09:21.579
that God could... God could end the world today.

02:09:22.539 --> 02:09:24.199
with the snap of his fingers. And that would

02:09:24.199 --> 02:09:26.659
be fucked up. That would be pretty fucked up.

02:09:26.739 --> 02:09:31.229
So could Donald Trump. So could AI. So could

02:09:31.229 --> 02:09:35.109
AI. I'll jump in. Dan's fucking lost. Dan's making

02:09:35.109 --> 02:09:37.189
the next fucking Hayley White song over there.

02:09:38.449 --> 02:09:41.029
Dude, I just had religion forced on my throat

02:09:41.029 --> 02:09:44.529
as a kid. I'm like burnt out from religion. I

02:09:44.529 --> 02:09:47.550
went three times a week until I was like 18 years

02:09:47.550 --> 02:09:50.750
old. Three times a week is fucking nuts. So two

02:09:50.750 --> 02:09:52.750
two -hour sessions and one one -hour session.

02:09:52.909 --> 02:09:54.989
So you're not agnostic. You're not atheist. You

02:09:54.989 --> 02:09:59.149
just don't care. No, dude. I think that a belief

02:09:59.149 --> 02:10:01.550
in a higher power is innate he's spiritual I

02:10:01.550 --> 02:10:04.310
like that and like dude when I pick up my cat

02:10:04.310 --> 02:10:06.529
I believe that as an agnostic I believe what

02:10:06.529 --> 02:10:08.430
you're saying I touch my nose to her little wet

02:10:08.430 --> 02:10:11.729
nose like God is right there and I know it and

02:10:11.729 --> 02:10:14.350
God knows it and it's like like I can smile and

02:10:14.350 --> 02:10:18.039
say like dude we know I'm not saying him intentionally

02:10:18.039 --> 02:10:20.119
because I don't believe God would have a sex.

02:10:20.460 --> 02:10:23.060
You're not agnostic. You do believe in a higher

02:10:23.060 --> 02:10:25.000
power. You just don't necessarily know what it

02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:30.100
is. 100%. I like that. That's an incredibly hopeful

02:10:30.100 --> 02:10:32.779
outlook. I like that. When you touch your cats,

02:10:32.960 --> 02:10:35.520
you both get a release of dopamine in your brain.

02:10:38.350 --> 02:10:41.310
Casey, it goes so far beyond the stupid little

02:10:41.310 --> 02:10:44.609
chemicals that we found in laboratories. We have

02:10:44.609 --> 02:10:46.369
consciousness. We can't explain that. We can't

02:10:46.369 --> 02:10:48.770
explain consciousness with neurotransmitters.

02:10:49.390 --> 02:10:52.109
Yes, they influence our consciousness, but that

02:10:52.109 --> 02:10:54.970
is not our whole consciousness. If consciousness

02:10:54.970 --> 02:10:57.350
was just the neurotransmitters at birth, you

02:10:57.350 --> 02:10:58.989
should have all your memories. You could take

02:10:58.989 --> 02:11:01.590
a person and put them on an island with one other

02:11:01.590 --> 02:11:04.189
person and just leave them alone and you come

02:11:04.189 --> 02:11:06.319
back and they'd have religion. Like, dude, the

02:11:06.319 --> 02:11:08.979
Native Americans had religion. Yeah. Like, everybody,

02:11:09.140 --> 02:11:12.039
it's innate to humans. It's like breathing air.

02:11:12.119 --> 02:11:14.579
Because we never had a way to explain things

02:11:14.579 --> 02:11:17.479
because we don't have science. No, my God. There's

02:11:17.479 --> 02:11:19.439
a distinction there. It's not about explaining

02:11:19.439 --> 02:11:20.699
things. Yeah, there's a distinction there, though.

02:11:21.180 --> 02:11:23.960
Neurotransmers. We're like, why does the sun,

02:11:24.420 --> 02:11:28.300
you know, go in the sky? Why does the earth revolve

02:11:28.300 --> 02:11:30.960
around the sun? Casey, you're not as smart as

02:11:30.960 --> 02:11:33.300
you think you are. I get where Casey's coming

02:11:33.300 --> 02:11:35.340
from, but Dan's not trying to say that point.

02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:38.479
Neurotransmitters, if you're going to relate

02:11:38.479 --> 02:11:39.939
that to consciousness... Stop fucking with the

02:11:39.939 --> 02:11:41.819
chair. It's fucking up my life. Neurotransmitters...

02:11:41.979 --> 02:11:45.680
It affects mood, yes, sure. It affects your human

02:11:45.680 --> 02:11:48.760
body, yes. But that still does not explain consciousness.

02:11:49.119 --> 02:11:51.239
Consciousness is completely separate. At the

02:11:51.239 --> 02:11:53.239
end of the day, we're just a bunch of moving

02:11:53.239 --> 02:11:58.159
atoms. What fucking made it? Why would we have

02:11:58.159 --> 02:11:59.960
consciousness? Why wouldn't we just be moving

02:11:59.960 --> 02:12:03.300
atoms that don't have a brain? Why am I existing?

02:12:03.640 --> 02:12:05.600
Why am I having thoughts right now? Why am I

02:12:05.600 --> 02:12:07.659
experiencing the things that I'm experiencing?

02:12:08.919 --> 02:12:10.920
Neurotransmitters don't explain that. Science

02:12:10.920 --> 02:12:13.260
doesn't explain that. We don't have an explanation

02:12:13.260 --> 02:12:16.060
for it. So that's the evidence for there is a

02:12:16.060 --> 02:12:18.199
higher power. That's why I'm agnostic. For the

02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:20.600
table. Atheism doesn't have a response for that.

02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:25.479
Do you think we have a soul? Soul? So define

02:12:25.479 --> 02:12:28.939
what you mean by soul. A physical, not a physical,

02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:33.159
but a metaphysical being of ourselves that...

02:12:33.470 --> 02:12:37.029
that just doesn't die after death. I do. I agree

02:12:37.029 --> 02:12:41.590
with that, yes. I think we do. You can call it

02:12:41.590 --> 02:12:43.270
whatever you want. I'm calling it a soul. You

02:12:43.270 --> 02:12:45.829
can call it your whatever. No, yeah, I get what

02:12:45.829 --> 02:12:47.750
you're saying, and I 100 % believe you, yes.

02:12:47.789 --> 02:12:50.270
Because something is making me experience my

02:12:50.270 --> 02:12:52.689
life. Something is making you experience your

02:12:52.689 --> 02:12:55.550
life. And that is the biggest argument to a higher

02:12:55.550 --> 02:12:57.550
power that I can humanly conceive of. That's

02:12:57.550 --> 02:13:00.210
why I'm not an atheist, is that I am experiencing

02:13:00.210 --> 02:13:03.460
life. Why would I be experiencing life? There's

02:13:03.460 --> 02:13:06.039
nothing that explains consciousness more than

02:13:06.039 --> 02:13:08.840
like. And another thing to your point, why do

02:13:08.840 --> 02:13:13.539
you feel guilt and shame? And like, if you wrong.

02:13:13.619 --> 02:13:16.420
So there I'd say neurotransmitters. No, no, no,

02:13:16.420 --> 02:13:21.079
no. There's no reason you should feel shame for

02:13:21.079 --> 02:13:24.439
hurting another person. Like in the neurotransmitter

02:13:24.439 --> 02:13:26.100
quote unquote thing. I get what you're saying.

02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:29.539
There's no reason you should feel shame for robbing

02:13:29.539 --> 02:13:34.600
another person. I do though, and I don't believe

02:13:34.600 --> 02:13:38.140
in God. But what I'm saying is, with the whole

02:13:38.140 --> 02:13:40.239
neurotransmitter thing, you don't necessarily

02:13:40.239 --> 02:13:42.539
need to believe in it for it to be true. But

02:13:42.539 --> 02:13:45.579
the whole thing with that is, if I rob somebody,

02:13:45.859 --> 02:13:48.739
I should feel shame for that, and I'll feel shame

02:13:48.739 --> 02:13:51.899
in myself from that. If it was just survival

02:13:51.899 --> 02:13:54.439
and neurotransmitters... I'm stealing something

02:13:54.439 --> 02:13:57.220
for my own survival. I'm stealing this. This

02:13:57.220 --> 02:14:00.180
is for me. I'm doing this for me. I'm helping

02:14:00.180 --> 02:14:03.079
myself survive. If there was nothing more than

02:14:03.079 --> 02:14:04.979
neurotransmitters, I shouldn't feel anything.

02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:07.220
Tyler, I'm going to be honest with you. I think

02:14:07.220 --> 02:14:09.659
that's the best point you've ever made relating

02:14:09.659 --> 02:14:12.899
to religion. I completely fuck with you on that.

02:14:13.000 --> 02:14:16.899
I get what you just said. If I steal from somebody

02:14:16.899 --> 02:14:18.760
something that I want or something that I need

02:14:18.760 --> 02:14:21.020
to survive, I shouldn't feel shame if it's just

02:14:21.020 --> 02:14:24.159
neurotransmitters. Like there's something more

02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:27.359
being like, oh, I just wronged a fellow human

02:14:27.359 --> 02:14:30.260
being. I will come at the caveat. I will come

02:14:30.260 --> 02:14:32.140
at the caveat there that down the road we could

02:14:32.140 --> 02:14:34.939
explain that like learned beliefs early in life

02:14:34.939 --> 02:14:37.420
that instill who you are as a person can influence

02:14:37.420 --> 02:14:41.640
your neurotransmitters. Yeah, they're psychopaths.

02:14:42.060 --> 02:14:44.939
The only reason that you're feeling shame you're

02:14:44.939 --> 02:14:48.460
saying is because God is going to punish you

02:14:48.460 --> 02:14:50.500
for it or God says it's wrong. Even people who

02:14:50.500 --> 02:14:54.750
don't. believe in God feel shame for doing things.

02:14:54.850 --> 02:14:57.710
But why can't I just be a moral person just to

02:14:57.710 --> 02:15:00.869
be a good person for myself? If there is no God,

02:15:00.909 --> 02:15:03.729
there is no moral absolute for it. But if I'm

02:15:03.729 --> 02:15:06.149
a good person and I'm just doing it for myself

02:15:06.149 --> 02:15:09.609
and not God, isn't that better? Why be a moral

02:15:09.609 --> 02:15:11.789
person if there is no God? Because if there is

02:15:11.789 --> 02:15:14.350
no God, there is no reason to have a moral. I'm

02:15:14.350 --> 02:15:15.649
just going to come out and say this is the best

02:15:15.649 --> 02:15:18.329
religious debate episode we've had. This is like...

02:15:18.649 --> 02:15:20.770
We're finding certain common grounds. I didn't

02:15:20.770 --> 02:15:22.550
think we're going to be there. I'm sorry to detract

02:15:22.550 --> 02:15:25.489
from it and pause it, but this is sick. I'm vibing

02:15:25.489 --> 02:15:26.510
with this whole talk right now. You can only

02:15:26.510 --> 02:15:29.210
be a good person if someone else says that you

02:15:29.210 --> 02:15:31.050
have to. Where did being a good person come from,

02:15:31.130 --> 02:15:34.939
Casey? What? Where did the idea of being a good

02:15:34.939 --> 02:15:37.300
person come from? It's because we have evolved

02:15:37.300 --> 02:15:38.979
to help our other species. We have evolved to

02:15:38.979 --> 02:15:40.880
help each other, but where did that come from?

02:15:40.939 --> 02:15:42.560
Because if you're not a good person, you're being

02:15:42.560 --> 02:15:43.600
punished by society. Because it helps evolve

02:15:43.600 --> 02:15:46.560
the species when you help out your own. I didn't

02:15:46.560 --> 02:15:48.720
think Tyler would be having Casey on the ropes.

02:15:48.899 --> 02:15:51.100
This is kind of fucking wild. I'm not going to

02:15:51.100 --> 02:15:54.060
lie. Because before when we were cavemen, there

02:15:54.060 --> 02:15:57.039
was nothing. It didn't matter. You could beat

02:15:57.039 --> 02:15:59.500
someone with a fucking rock, and it didn't fucking

02:15:59.500 --> 02:16:04.529
matter. But I guarantee you, I can't go back

02:16:04.529 --> 02:16:07.489
in time and say caveman. The whole thing with

02:16:07.489 --> 02:16:10.630
like, but society is the thing that tells you,

02:16:10.649 --> 02:16:14.189
you have an innate thing to feel for the person

02:16:14.189 --> 02:16:16.130
next to you. Why do you care about what society

02:16:16.130 --> 02:16:20.090
says? Like we want to be loved by another person.

02:16:20.149 --> 02:16:23.010
I'm married. I love my wife. I searched my entire

02:16:23.010 --> 02:16:26.020
life. To be loved by somebody like I've been

02:16:26.020 --> 02:16:28.579
loved by my wife. Yeah, why do our parents provide

02:16:28.579 --> 02:16:31.000
for us and then we provide for them when they're

02:16:31.000 --> 02:16:34.739
elderly? Before people developed religion or

02:16:34.739 --> 02:16:37.639
people knew about religion, they had no reason.

02:16:38.219 --> 02:16:40.139
to be a good person or help each other out. No,

02:16:40.139 --> 02:16:42.659
that's not the thing. It was already innate in

02:16:42.659 --> 02:16:45.159
us. Exactly. So why does God have to tell me

02:16:45.159 --> 02:16:46.000
I have to be a good person? Because God's the

02:16:46.000 --> 02:16:49.579
person that put it in us. God is what put that

02:16:49.579 --> 02:16:54.959
in us. We were innately born with a soul that's

02:16:54.959 --> 02:16:57.840
in us that feels for other people. But why can't

02:16:57.840 --> 02:16:59.600
I just be a good person for myself and not because

02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:01.540
God put it in me? Why can't you be a good person

02:17:01.540 --> 02:17:05.100
for yourself? You're using modern terms and modern

02:17:05.100 --> 02:17:07.579
looks at this to explain something that we've

02:17:07.579 --> 02:17:12.069
had since we began. We, we love each other as

02:17:12.069 --> 02:17:14.149
people and we hate each other as people. And

02:17:14.149 --> 02:17:17.770
the dichotomy in that is you, you don't want

02:17:17.770 --> 02:17:20.430
to hate somebody. You almost everybody you want,

02:17:20.450 --> 02:17:22.329
you meet, you don't want to hate that person.

02:17:22.430 --> 02:17:25.090
You want to actually have a, like, you don't

02:17:25.090 --> 02:17:27.110
meet somebody and go, I want to hate that person.

02:17:27.290 --> 02:17:30.110
I want to hate that person. You go, I would really

02:17:30.110 --> 02:17:32.350
like if this person was my friend. I would really

02:17:32.350 --> 02:17:34.790
like that. This person thought that I was good

02:17:34.790 --> 02:17:38.489
enough of a person to actually be talked to,

02:17:38.569 --> 02:17:41.579
but, but People are so cheated. It's the thing

02:17:41.579 --> 02:17:43.360
that makes you realize that somebody's not good

02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:45.600
in your life. You don't say, I'm going to fucking

02:17:45.600 --> 02:17:48.059
kill that person. Yeah, but you're saying if

02:17:48.059 --> 02:17:50.100
they worship the wrong god, they're just going

02:17:50.100 --> 02:17:53.100
to go to hell. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying

02:17:53.100 --> 02:17:55.479
that. I'm saying that my book and my religion

02:17:55.479 --> 02:17:58.399
says that. Personally, I don't think that God

02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:02.760
is this wrathful being that gets tossed around

02:18:02.760 --> 02:18:04.540
in some of these things. The reason why I'm a

02:18:04.540 --> 02:18:06.659
Catholic and the reason why I do this, right,

02:18:06.739 --> 02:18:10.020
is because I think that Catholicism is the closest

02:18:10.020 --> 02:18:13.100
that we got. I don't think it's 100 % right on

02:18:13.100 --> 02:18:15.319
the head. I think every single religion on the

02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:18.260
planet, including Islam, including Mormonism

02:18:18.260 --> 02:18:20.680
and fucking all this other bullshit, I think

02:18:20.680 --> 02:18:23.979
that each one of them has little pieces of a

02:18:23.979 --> 02:18:29.000
bigger picture. We can never see the full picture

02:18:29.000 --> 02:18:32.870
because we are not God. We can only see the fractured

02:18:32.870 --> 02:18:35.129
pieces of it. The reason why I'm a Catholic,

02:18:35.190 --> 02:18:37.229
the reason why I'm a Christian, the reason why

02:18:37.229 --> 02:18:39.770
I believe what I believe is because I think that

02:18:39.770 --> 02:18:42.069
they have the biggest piece of the puzzle that

02:18:42.069 --> 02:18:44.309
we can see right now. And when I'm looking at

02:18:44.309 --> 02:18:45.870
the pieces of the puzzle and I'm looking at the

02:18:45.870 --> 02:18:48.409
pieces that Catholicism put together, I'm like,

02:18:48.489 --> 02:18:50.950
that's the piece that I can see right now. That's

02:18:50.950 --> 02:18:53.549
the closest that I see right now. And guess what?

02:18:53.850 --> 02:18:55.889
I think in the puzzle, there's pieces that were

02:18:55.889 --> 02:18:59.969
thrown in there by mistake or by nefarious forces

02:18:59.969 --> 02:19:02.350
that I would call demons or stuff like that,

02:19:02.370 --> 02:19:04.870
that people can connect and they're seeing a

02:19:04.870 --> 02:19:07.110
completely different picture. That's the picture

02:19:07.110 --> 02:19:09.909
that God doesn't want you to see. God wants you

02:19:09.909 --> 02:19:13.209
to live a life that's good. He wants you to live

02:19:13.209 --> 02:19:16.790
a life that is prosperous and good, but there's

02:19:16.790 --> 02:19:19.290
other forces out there that are also working

02:19:19.290 --> 02:19:21.229
against you. I thought you were supposed to fear

02:19:21.229 --> 02:19:24.209
God. You're never supposed to fear. But people

02:19:24.209 --> 02:19:26.510
say I'm a God -fearing Christian. Yes, because

02:19:26.510 --> 02:19:29.389
they got the wrong pieces in there. They have

02:19:29.389 --> 02:19:32.090
the wrong religion. No, Casey, listen to me.

02:19:32.229 --> 02:19:35.309
Can I fucking finish something? That was a rage

02:19:35.309 --> 02:19:37.909
bait comment. That was a rage bait comment. You

02:19:37.909 --> 02:19:40.090
know what he fucking meant. Do Christians not

02:19:40.090 --> 02:19:42.569
say I'm a God fearing Christian? KZ, I do got

02:19:42.569 --> 02:19:44.530
to interject here because your last question

02:19:44.530 --> 02:19:46.989
when he was going on the rant about like how

02:19:46.989 --> 02:19:49.430
just being a good person is integral to humanity.

02:19:49.670 --> 02:19:51.989
Your throwback at that was like, oh, but you

02:19:51.989 --> 02:19:55.049
go to hell if you're not Christian. In that moment,

02:19:55.149 --> 02:19:58.639
Tyler was definitely arguing just on the. on

02:19:58.639 --> 02:20:01.079
behalf that there's a higher power. I don't think

02:20:01.079 --> 02:20:03.260
he was going down the Catholic or Christian or

02:20:03.260 --> 02:20:05.239
any religion road there. I think he was just

02:20:05.239 --> 02:20:07.899
trying to back up the innate being, more like

02:20:07.899 --> 02:20:10.059
what Dan was saying about the innate being of

02:20:10.059 --> 02:20:13.120
a higher power instilled in us. There's got to

02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:15.299
be a reason that we feel that we need to be good

02:20:15.299 --> 02:20:18.219
people. For example, you can grow up in a broken

02:20:18.219 --> 02:20:21.120
household that's not... religious and you can

02:20:21.120 --> 02:20:23.639
get nothing, get nothing but shit shoveled down

02:20:23.639 --> 02:20:25.239
your throat. And a lot of people will become

02:20:25.239 --> 02:20:27.780
bad people because of that upbringing. And there

02:20:27.780 --> 02:20:29.680
is that whole moral debate of, are they bad people?

02:20:29.760 --> 02:20:32.639
Because they got dealt a shit hand and they kind

02:20:32.639 --> 02:20:35.219
of just mimic the beliefs of not mimic the beliefs,

02:20:35.239 --> 02:20:37.680
but mimic the behavior they grew up with. But

02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:40.120
like, there's also people like without going

02:20:40.120 --> 02:20:44.100
in depth, my fiance who had like a fucking horrendous

02:20:44.100 --> 02:20:46.420
upbringing, horrendous family life without getting

02:20:46.420 --> 02:20:49.260
into specifics there. She somehow still found

02:20:49.260 --> 02:20:51.600
a way to be a good human and not lash out at

02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:53.920
people and not be a rude person. Like she's one

02:20:53.920 --> 02:20:58.559
of the most polite, caring, like would give her

02:20:58.559 --> 02:21:01.860
shirt off your, her back to anybody just on the

02:21:01.860 --> 02:21:05.219
street beings I've met in my life. And she doesn't

02:21:05.219 --> 02:21:07.620
really have a reason to feel that way about life.

02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:10.209
Most, I feel like most people would have. been

02:21:10.209 --> 02:21:12.790
born into her life and been very hateful and

02:21:12.790 --> 02:21:16.229
vindictive and just assholes and not care about

02:21:16.229 --> 02:21:18.190
the welfare of others and be incredibly selfish

02:21:18.190 --> 02:21:21.450
people. But something in her is, is there that

02:21:21.450 --> 02:21:23.790
made her fight through that. And to a lesser

02:21:23.790 --> 02:21:26.450
extent, me, I mean, my upbringing wasn't great

02:21:26.450 --> 02:21:30.110
either. And I had certain religion and still,

02:21:30.110 --> 02:21:33.370
but like, it's like, why, why would that be an

02:21:33.370 --> 02:21:36.069
intrinsic fact to humanity? Why, why are we any

02:21:36.069 --> 02:21:38.149
different than any other species? That's just

02:21:38.149 --> 02:21:43.409
like, Our only objectives are to feed ourselves

02:21:43.409 --> 02:21:47.010
and fuck to procreate. But otherwise, we don't

02:21:47.010 --> 02:21:49.090
really give a fuck. We kill other species on

02:21:49.090 --> 02:21:51.809
a daily basis to do shit. In a lot of cases,

02:21:51.989 --> 02:21:55.149
we kill our own species in cannibalism or auto

02:21:55.149 --> 02:21:59.110
-cannibalism. we in certain species it's incredibly

02:21:59.110 --> 02:22:02.430
common to eat your young like and like that's

02:22:02.430 --> 02:22:04.469
that's something that's averaging don't it's

02:22:04.469 --> 02:22:06.950
a it's a common thing with pigs and there's there's

02:22:06.950 --> 02:22:08.469
another term for it i can't remember what it's

02:22:08.469 --> 02:22:10.250
called it's uh what's what's it called i thought

02:22:10.250 --> 02:22:13.350
it was something side it's something side patricide

02:22:13.350 --> 02:22:15.909
no patricide's uh father but it's something side

02:22:15.909 --> 02:22:19.969
it's whatever it's one of those yeah yeah but

02:22:19.969 --> 02:22:23.559
like that's something that we That intrinsic

02:22:23.559 --> 02:22:26.260
thing is not with us. And what's the one thing

02:22:26.260 --> 02:22:28.180
that separates us from the rest of the species

02:22:28.180 --> 02:22:30.899
on this planet? I'm not necessarily backing up

02:22:30.899 --> 02:22:33.000
any argument here, but we're the only beings

02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:36.360
that we're aware of that are self -aware. We're

02:22:36.360 --> 02:22:39.139
the only ones that recognize that we have a consciousness

02:22:39.139 --> 02:22:43.459
that are like. That we recognize the cycle of

02:22:43.459 --> 02:22:46.340
life and death and we're intelligent enough to

02:22:46.340 --> 02:22:48.780
process that. Yeah, but do you not see animals

02:22:48.780 --> 02:22:51.180
having compassion for each other, for other species?

02:22:51.559 --> 02:22:54.420
It's very rare. It's very rare. Would your dog

02:22:54.420 --> 02:22:57.360
fucking risk its life to defend you? Most dogs

02:22:57.360 --> 02:22:59.379
would if you train them correctly, yeah. Because

02:22:59.379 --> 02:23:01.120
they have a loyalty to you because you train

02:23:01.120 --> 02:23:04.030
that in them. And they're also, they are on the

02:23:04.030 --> 02:23:06.450
higher end of intelligence. Dude, I saw a video

02:23:06.450 --> 02:23:10.090
of a fucking lion and a fucking, what's one of

02:23:10.090 --> 02:23:13.450
those small dogs? Chihuahua? No, like a hot dog.

02:23:13.770 --> 02:23:17.469
Oh, beagle, wiener. Yeah, wiener schnitzel. A

02:23:17.469 --> 02:23:19.790
fucking lion and a wiener schnitzel were like

02:23:19.790 --> 02:23:22.530
best friends. And they had to take the wiener

02:23:22.530 --> 02:23:25.049
schnitzel away because they were afraid the lion

02:23:25.049 --> 02:23:27.469
was going to hurt it. And the lion didn't eat

02:23:27.469 --> 02:23:29.670
at all. So they had to bring the fucking dog

02:23:29.670 --> 02:23:31.770
back. Yeah, I'm not saying that there's not exceptions

02:23:31.770 --> 02:23:36.729
to that. But it's for the most part rare. But

02:23:36.729 --> 02:23:38.569
also, on the other end of the spectrum, even

02:23:38.569 --> 02:23:40.750
though we still consider those beings like...

02:23:41.290 --> 02:23:43.690
very dumb compared to us, which I mean, I guess

02:23:43.690 --> 02:23:47.469
kind of, they are like still most mammals are

02:23:47.469 --> 02:23:50.010
on like the more brainiac side of creatures,

02:23:50.049 --> 02:23:53.930
like both lions and, and dogs are both like,

02:23:53.950 --> 02:23:58.709
definitely like in the bag. 90th percentile of

02:23:58.709 --> 02:24:01.110
intelligence of most life we have on this planet

02:24:01.110 --> 02:24:04.409
if not much higher than that like elephants do

02:24:04.409 --> 02:24:07.010
you see them that they have grief elephants are

02:24:07.010 --> 02:24:08.610
one of the only other known creatures that we

02:24:08.610 --> 02:24:12.030
know of that performs like funerals or like funeral

02:24:12.030 --> 02:24:14.110
like activity when somebody dies they attempt

02:24:14.110 --> 02:24:16.870
to not necessarily bury them but like i think

02:24:16.870 --> 02:24:19.309
they do have like they try to cover yeah they're

02:24:19.309 --> 02:24:21.569
dead and they're intelligent and they can understand

02:24:21.569 --> 02:24:26.049
what death is exactly but still intelligence

02:24:26.049 --> 02:24:29.790
doesn't explain that like why just because you're

02:24:29.790 --> 02:24:32.549
smarter why do you care about that like i guess

02:24:32.549 --> 02:24:35.469
i guess that's what tyler's argument dan's argument

02:24:35.469 --> 02:24:38.149
on the topic of death on on things like that

02:24:38.149 --> 02:24:43.750
if if what you what what the the atheistic way

02:24:43.750 --> 02:24:46.629
of looking at it is they're dead you're never

02:24:46.629 --> 02:24:49.729
going to see them again it's it's over they're

02:24:49.729 --> 02:24:52.379
gone Why do you care? Why do you care? You're

02:24:52.379 --> 02:24:53.940
never going to see them again. You're just going

02:24:53.940 --> 02:24:55.600
to be in that box, too, and you're going to be

02:24:55.600 --> 02:24:58.739
in the everlasting darkness of nothingness. Well,

02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:00.760
I care because I have feelings and memories.

02:25:01.860 --> 02:25:03.200
Yeah, I was going to say, you can't give that

02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:04.459
as a blanket term for atheists. No, but what

02:25:04.459 --> 02:25:07.639
I'm saying is, why would I want to believe in

02:25:07.639 --> 02:25:09.940
something that every single... It's not about

02:25:09.940 --> 02:25:11.920
what you want to believe. It's about what's true.

02:25:12.020 --> 02:25:15.059
If it's not about what you want to believe! You

02:25:15.059 --> 02:25:17.280
can believe whatever you want to believe, but

02:25:17.280 --> 02:25:20.059
the truth is something separate. This is wild

02:25:20.059 --> 02:25:21.920
because every other time I have been like 100

02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:25.239
% on Casey's side. I'm sorry. I'm not trying

02:25:25.239 --> 02:25:27.020
to turn my back on you, but Tyler's making some

02:25:27.020 --> 02:25:29.459
good points. If it's not about what you believe,

02:25:29.659 --> 02:25:34.079
at least to me, it's always science first. We

02:25:34.079 --> 02:25:36.200
have to look at the science. We have to do this.

02:25:36.659 --> 02:25:39.780
There's so many things in fucking science that

02:25:39.780 --> 02:25:44.000
just point to a fucking something designing it.

02:25:44.239 --> 02:25:47.500
Like, there's the rules of the universe. What

02:25:47.500 --> 02:25:49.219
made the rules of the universe? There's things

02:25:49.219 --> 02:25:52.399
that you can't do. Like, you can't, like, actively

02:25:52.399 --> 02:25:54.959
break the rules of the universe because you can't

02:25:54.959 --> 02:25:58.200
do it. It feels like there were rules created

02:25:58.200 --> 02:26:04.420
for us that a higher power put into the fabric

02:26:04.420 --> 02:26:08.500
of this universe that was created. It had to

02:26:08.500 --> 02:26:13.750
make rules in order to confine itself. Everything

02:26:13.750 --> 02:26:17.709
that has rules and stuff like that, AI, like

02:26:17.709 --> 02:26:19.870
we're talking about, we make rules for AI to

02:26:19.870 --> 02:26:23.750
stay in itself and to confine it. It doesn't

02:26:23.750 --> 02:26:26.729
necessarily work. And look at what people keep

02:26:26.729 --> 02:26:28.969
trying to do. We keep trying to fucking make

02:26:28.969 --> 02:26:31.389
dark matter and shit. We keep trying to fucking

02:26:31.389 --> 02:26:34.049
tear open wormholes and shit. We're trying to

02:26:34.049 --> 02:26:37.889
break the rules that were laid out for us. Now

02:26:37.889 --> 02:26:40.030
you're losing me, Tyler. I'll be honest there.

02:26:40.049 --> 02:26:42.829
I don't fucking care. I'm never here to convince

02:26:42.829 --> 02:26:45.649
anybody. I'm just saying this shit. You made

02:26:45.649 --> 02:26:48.829
a solid argument for things I already believe,

02:26:48.950 --> 02:26:50.969
but you actually put them in a way that was very

02:26:50.969 --> 02:26:54.989
good. The whole thing with it doesn't matter

02:26:54.989 --> 02:26:57.969
what you believe. It just matters what the truth

02:26:57.969 --> 02:27:04.010
is. Why are you right? What makes you right?

02:27:05.159 --> 02:27:08.360
What makes me right? But I do want to rephrase

02:27:08.360 --> 02:27:10.020
this because I know the rant you're going to

02:27:10.020 --> 02:27:12.879
go on. Not against Catholicism, but against the

02:27:12.879 --> 02:27:14.620
higher power. I feel like that's a distinction

02:27:14.620 --> 02:27:16.260
we need to make because you've poked a million

02:27:16.260 --> 02:27:19.219
holes in Catholicism. But against the higher

02:27:19.219 --> 02:27:22.579
power, what's the argument against that? You

02:27:22.579 --> 02:27:27.600
always say that I have to prove why God is real

02:27:27.600 --> 02:27:31.500
to you in order for you to believe it. What can

02:27:31.500 --> 02:27:35.930
you do to prove that God isn't real to me? But

02:27:35.930 --> 02:27:39.329
that's the thing is that... You can't. You can't,

02:27:39.329 --> 02:27:42.250
Casey. You also can't prove that there's not

02:27:42.250 --> 02:27:45.069
a flying spaghetti monster because there's a

02:27:45.069 --> 02:27:47.329
small chance that there could be. But you always

02:27:47.329 --> 02:27:50.829
put me on the spot to say, prove to me that God's

02:27:50.829 --> 02:27:53.030
real. And when I try to put you on the spot here,

02:27:53.090 --> 02:27:54.389
you're like, I can't prove that there is no God.

02:27:54.389 --> 02:27:56.850
But there's nothing that you can see or hear

02:27:56.850 --> 02:28:00.610
or taste or feel or smell that you can say that

02:28:00.610 --> 02:28:04.010
that's evidence for God. Yeah, there is evidence

02:28:04.010 --> 02:28:07.049
for God. What I was just saying, the innate ability

02:28:07.049 --> 02:28:09.930
to care for somebody, loving your significant

02:28:09.930 --> 02:28:12.649
other, especially when you have a kid, loving

02:28:12.649 --> 02:28:15.870
that kid, it just comes to you naturally. That's

02:28:15.870 --> 02:28:19.329
not from religion. That's from being human. God

02:28:19.329 --> 02:28:25.229
made us as humans. So why do I, as an atheist,

02:28:25.409 --> 02:28:27.969
have morals? Why am I a good person? Because

02:28:27.969 --> 02:28:31.920
you were born innate with them from God. It doesn't

02:28:31.920 --> 02:28:34.440
matter if you're an atheist. You are still born

02:28:34.440 --> 02:28:36.600
with that innate thing because God put it in

02:28:36.600 --> 02:28:39.219
you. But according to you, I have no motivation

02:28:39.219 --> 02:28:41.500
to be a good person because I don't believe in

02:28:41.500 --> 02:28:42.920
God. You shouldn't have motivation to be a good

02:28:42.920 --> 02:28:45.040
person if you're an atheist. There's no reason

02:28:45.040 --> 02:28:47.399
to have that motivation. So then why am I still

02:28:47.399 --> 02:28:49.399
motivated to be a good person? Because you still

02:28:49.399 --> 02:28:52.319
believe a little bit in you. No, it's not because

02:28:52.319 --> 02:28:55.159
I believe in God. It's not because... No. You

02:28:55.159 --> 02:28:58.059
think... I know every single person out there

02:28:58.059 --> 02:29:00.840
who's a staunch atheist, there's still a fucking

02:29:00.840 --> 02:29:02.420
little thing in the back of their mind of what

02:29:02.420 --> 02:29:05.639
if. What if there is a God? What if there is

02:29:05.639 --> 02:29:07.000
not? Is there not something in your mind that

02:29:07.000 --> 02:29:08.260
says what if there's no God? There's always something

02:29:08.260 --> 02:29:09.860
in the back of my mind that says that there is

02:29:09.860 --> 02:29:14.200
no God. But guess what? I constantly find new

02:29:14.200 --> 02:29:16.540
reasons to think that there is God. I literally

02:29:16.540 --> 02:29:19.020
admit that. I go out to the Adirondacks and I

02:29:19.020 --> 02:29:20.940
look at those fucking mountains and I see that's

02:29:20.940 --> 02:29:24.750
beautiful. The creator had such a beautiful paintbrush

02:29:24.750 --> 02:29:28.450
that he created all of this. The way that nature

02:29:28.450 --> 02:29:30.290
is, the way that the universe is, the way that

02:29:30.290 --> 02:29:33.229
humans are, it's like it was made by a fucking

02:29:33.229 --> 02:29:37.270
artist. There's so many things and so many ways

02:29:37.270 --> 02:29:40.469
that things are. It just looks like there was

02:29:40.469 --> 02:29:43.229
an artist that created all of this. But I'm admitting

02:29:43.229 --> 02:29:46.870
there's a small possibility of anything. Just

02:29:46.870 --> 02:29:48.969
like I think you should admit that there's a...

02:29:48.969 --> 02:29:51.930
I've never, I've never disadmitted that there's

02:29:51.930 --> 02:29:54.409
a possibility that there is no God. I think there

02:29:54.409 --> 02:29:56.530
is, but there's a possibility that there is none.

02:29:56.649 --> 02:29:58.969
And I say that all the fucking time. I'm saying

02:29:58.969 --> 02:30:01.309
that there's a small possibility, right, that

02:30:01.309 --> 02:30:03.329
there's a higher power, but I just think it's

02:30:03.329 --> 02:30:06.489
infinitely small. I think it's infinitely small

02:30:06.489 --> 02:30:10.069
that there is no God. The more that I research

02:30:10.069 --> 02:30:13.329
it, the more that I do this, the feeling that

02:30:13.329 --> 02:30:16.350
you get from waking up next to your wife, there's

02:30:16.350 --> 02:30:18.870
a feeling that you get from seeing your family

02:30:18.870 --> 02:30:20.670
members, from seeing your friends, from seeing

02:30:20.670 --> 02:30:24.379
you guys. These feelings that don't come from

02:30:24.379 --> 02:30:26.100
neurotransmitters, that don't come from anything.

02:30:26.379 --> 02:30:28.379
There's something innate in us. There's something

02:30:28.379 --> 02:30:31.799
that's in us that makes you want to have that

02:30:31.799 --> 02:30:33.540
human connection. That makes you want to have

02:30:33.540 --> 02:30:35.920
that feeling. That makes you want to have all

02:30:35.920 --> 02:30:38.860
this. Fucking Dan holding his cat. That's another

02:30:38.860 --> 02:30:41.440
thing. It's a connection that you can't have

02:30:41.440 --> 02:30:45.020
if you don't have that innate ability in you.

02:30:45.500 --> 02:30:47.000
Well, I think there still could be something

02:30:47.000 --> 02:30:50.340
more than just this life. And you could, you

02:30:50.340 --> 02:30:53.219
know, want to see. Then why would you want to?

02:30:53.520 --> 02:30:55.739
It doesn't necessarily mean that there's a God

02:30:55.739 --> 02:30:58.079
that created it. Even if there's, you know, a

02:30:58.079 --> 02:31:01.100
life, something that's going to happen after

02:31:01.100 --> 02:31:03.500
your death, where you still have a consciousness.

02:31:03.860 --> 02:31:05.399
Casey, why would you want to believe anything

02:31:05.399 --> 02:31:09.840
else? But it's not about what I want to happen,

02:31:09.920 --> 02:31:13.110
though. You're too stubborn to think. that there's

02:31:13.110 --> 02:31:16.290
another thing out there that you're wrong. You

02:31:16.290 --> 02:31:18.530
want to be right so much that you're willing

02:31:18.530 --> 02:31:20.809
to throw away everything that's been given to

02:31:20.809 --> 02:31:24.930
you through this life. I don't want to be right.

02:31:25.030 --> 02:31:29.309
I'm just being realistic. But the whole thing

02:31:29.309 --> 02:31:31.829
there is you're just like, well, why do you believe?

02:31:31.930 --> 02:31:35.969
I think it would be easier if we knew God was

02:31:35.969 --> 02:31:39.090
real. That's the whole point of faith. If you

02:31:39.090 --> 02:31:41.409
go to heaven. That's the whole point of faith,

02:31:41.489 --> 02:31:46.069
Casey. It's believing without seeing. And Jesus

02:31:46.069 --> 02:31:49.250
talks about that constantly. His apostles were

02:31:49.250 --> 02:31:51.909
able to see his miracles. We weren't, right?

02:31:52.670 --> 02:31:57.670
The whole thing is the whole leap of faith. It's

02:31:57.670 --> 02:32:02.209
just having the guts to make that leap of faith.

02:32:02.329 --> 02:32:04.270
And it's just like, you know what? If I'm wrong,

02:32:04.329 --> 02:32:07.850
I have egg on my face. Okay. Okay, that's the

02:32:07.850 --> 02:32:12.139
end. All right. I was wrong. I have the guts

02:32:12.139 --> 02:32:15.840
to take a stand and be like, you know what? I

02:32:15.840 --> 02:32:21.559
do believe in that. And I have the innate ability

02:32:21.559 --> 02:32:24.760
to understand that I could be wrong and everything

02:32:24.760 --> 02:32:29.139
that I believe could be wrong. And the fact that

02:32:29.139 --> 02:32:32.700
I'm still able to be like, I'm still going to

02:32:32.700 --> 02:32:34.879
believe that there is a God and there is something

02:32:34.879 --> 02:32:39.530
out there for me. I feel like that is the faith

02:32:39.530 --> 02:32:44.569
is having the guts to do that. Um, I feel like

02:32:44.569 --> 02:32:47.549
even if I, you know, admitted, even if I joined

02:32:47.549 --> 02:32:49.930
like the Catholic or Christian faith and I'm

02:32:49.930 --> 02:32:52.049
not telling you to do that. Yeah. But even if

02:32:52.049 --> 02:32:55.450
I did, like there would be, I like know how I

02:32:55.450 --> 02:32:58.809
feel in my mind and I would be like, I don't

02:32:58.809 --> 02:33:02.110
actually believe in God. Like even if I'm giving

02:33:02.110 --> 02:33:04.229
up my faith and like believe in all this shit,

02:33:04.350 --> 02:33:06.489
there's still going to be a big part of me that

02:33:06.489 --> 02:33:10.079
doubts it. There's a come to God moment, I feel,

02:33:10.159 --> 02:33:13.399
in most people's lives. You either run into it

02:33:13.399 --> 02:33:16.159
early, you run into it late. I feel like there's

02:33:16.159 --> 02:33:20.399
a moment in your life where you see God in something.

02:33:21.319 --> 02:33:24.139
Maybe Allie Mack will see it in his kid the first

02:33:24.139 --> 02:33:26.639
time that he looks at his kid in the eyes. Yeah,

02:33:26.659 --> 02:33:32.600
maybe I just need to do DMT, is the thing. I

02:33:32.600 --> 02:33:35.959
feel like we have... Not be the dead horse here,

02:33:36.000 --> 02:33:37.680
but I feel like we have reached the conclusion

02:33:37.680 --> 02:33:39.879
of that. I feel like we've lost Dan a little

02:33:39.879 --> 02:33:44.059
bit here. I'd just like to add a little... Never

02:33:44.059 --> 02:33:47.500
mind, we're back in. I think it's so obvious

02:33:47.500 --> 02:33:51.180
what humans are here for. We're here to learn

02:33:51.180 --> 02:33:54.159
lessons. It's like, if you go to learn to fly

02:33:54.159 --> 02:33:58.360
a helicopter, they say, go and learn how to fly

02:33:58.360 --> 02:34:01.020
a fixed -wing plane first. Because helicopters

02:34:01.020 --> 02:34:04.790
are notoriously hard to fly. I hate them in fucking

02:34:04.790 --> 02:34:06.790
flight simulator. Yeah, they're really hard.

02:34:07.149 --> 02:34:10.809
But they say go get 20 hours of flight time in

02:34:10.809 --> 02:34:12.649
fixed wing first and then come to helicopters.

02:34:13.129 --> 02:34:15.030
That's like usually what flight schools tell

02:34:15.030 --> 02:34:17.450
you to do. I think you can legally go straight

02:34:17.450 --> 02:34:19.809
to helicopter, but generally they tell you to

02:34:19.809 --> 02:34:21.909
go get fixed wing hours because you don't have

02:34:21.909 --> 02:34:24.469
to focus on flying the aircraft. You can learn

02:34:24.469 --> 02:34:27.909
the instruments and it's just a lot easier. So

02:34:27.909 --> 02:34:32.309
I think the reason that we're here is... We're

02:34:32.309 --> 02:34:35.129
learning how to operate. We're learning how things

02:34:35.129 --> 02:34:37.069
operate. It's like elementary school. Before

02:34:37.069 --> 02:34:39.629
you go on to another grade, you learn things

02:34:39.629 --> 02:34:43.010
in this realm. And I think it's like some things

02:34:43.010 --> 02:34:45.250
are just so obvious. You have to learn about

02:34:45.250 --> 02:34:48.729
loss. You have to learn about pain, suffering,

02:34:48.889 --> 02:34:51.190
sacrifice. There's just lessons that are built

02:34:51.190 --> 02:34:55.870
into this life. Very well put. We take care of

02:34:55.870 --> 02:34:58.510
nature. We take care of the earth while we're

02:34:58.510 --> 02:35:01.659
here. That's just... I mean, look at the native

02:35:01.659 --> 02:35:04.219
Americans. They knew that without all of them

02:35:04.219 --> 02:35:06.420
across all of the Americas knew that, that that

02:35:06.420 --> 02:35:09.040
was the role. Like if you kill an animal, use

02:35:09.040 --> 02:35:11.959
every part of it, you humanly can. Right. Yeah.

02:35:12.059 --> 02:35:14.479
And they, they respected nature and that's what

02:35:14.479 --> 02:35:16.520
we're supposed to do. And when we don't do that,

02:35:16.600 --> 02:35:19.579
it's like, we know that something's wrong innately.

02:35:19.620 --> 02:35:22.360
That's built into us. Right. Like when we harm

02:35:22.360 --> 02:35:24.520
an animal, most people, not all people, some

02:35:24.520 --> 02:35:28.040
people don't mind, but. I remember just feeling

02:35:28.040 --> 02:35:30.100
like a piece of shit like kicking over an anthill

02:35:30.100 --> 02:35:32.340
I did that all the time as a kid and then I grew

02:35:32.340 --> 02:35:34.020
up and now I'm like the motherfucker where like

02:35:34.020 --> 02:35:36.340
when I find a spider inside of the station I

02:35:36.340 --> 02:35:38.659
like grab it with a cup and let it outside same

02:35:38.659 --> 02:35:40.600
and I don't know where I don't know when that

02:35:40.600 --> 02:35:42.579
change occurred to me I always used to be somebody

02:35:42.579 --> 02:35:45.459
who killed a spider and I'm not even like a religious

02:35:45.459 --> 02:35:48.559
guy and I'm still like it just feels wrong like

02:35:48.559 --> 02:35:51.500
ending a being's entire existence for no fucking

02:35:51.500 --> 02:35:54.180
reason like I feel horrible that I used to do

02:35:54.180 --> 02:35:56.430
that as a kid like we look at We think like,

02:35:56.489 --> 02:35:58.770
oh man, like in this situation, I wish there

02:35:58.770 --> 02:36:01.010
was just a God to help me. It's like, well, you

02:36:01.010 --> 02:36:03.629
know, in a way you are the God to something else.

02:36:03.850 --> 02:36:06.069
And it's like, wouldn't you want your life to

02:36:06.069 --> 02:36:08.069
be protected? Like we have the ability to protect

02:36:08.069 --> 02:36:10.649
something else's life that looks at us like a

02:36:10.649 --> 02:36:14.430
God, right? So in that role with the spider,

02:36:14.649 --> 02:36:18.200
you're God and you're protecting it. I think

02:36:18.200 --> 02:36:22.540
this was all just a simulation. That's a rage

02:36:22.540 --> 02:36:28.760
bait. Don't buy who. I talked about this. There

02:36:28.760 --> 02:36:31.180
is no evidence to prove against it. I think that

02:36:31.180 --> 02:36:35.540
we're all just playing a VR game. I talked about

02:36:35.540 --> 02:36:39.819
this several times on the animal thing. I talked

02:36:39.819 --> 02:36:42.239
about when I had to shoot a squirrel or it would

02:36:42.239 --> 02:36:44.159
drown. It was either the squirrel drowned or

02:36:44.159 --> 02:36:48.399
I shot it. I still to this day, remember pulling

02:36:48.399 --> 02:36:51.219
that trigger on it. Yeah, you should, because

02:36:51.219 --> 02:36:52.879
you should have jumped in and got the squirrel

02:36:52.879 --> 02:36:57.620
out. Sounds like you just shot a fucking squirrel,

02:36:57.680 --> 02:37:01.379
Tyler. That's like 10 years in purgatory. You're

02:37:01.379 --> 02:37:05.159
fucked, bro. But as a person that's lived longer

02:37:05.159 --> 02:37:09.139
and done that, I see the several different things

02:37:09.139 --> 02:37:11.440
that I could have done in that situation, but

02:37:11.440 --> 02:37:14.920
I actively pulled the trigger and ended something's

02:37:14.920 --> 02:37:19.700
life. in that in that moment and the i still

02:37:19.700 --> 02:37:23.100
feel guilt to this day it was fucking almost

02:37:23.100 --> 02:37:27.340
15 like maybe 17 years ago but like the like

02:37:27.340 --> 02:37:30.020
i vividly remember that like it was a it was

02:37:30.020 --> 02:37:33.219
a watershed moment in my life being like that

02:37:33.219 --> 02:37:37.829
was I ended another living things life. And you're

02:37:37.829 --> 02:37:39.950
supposed to as a human. There's chemicals in

02:37:39.950 --> 02:37:42.250
your brain that make you feel bad when you kill

02:37:42.250 --> 02:37:44.170
other things. It's not all chemicals though,

02:37:44.190 --> 02:37:47.290
bro. That's the thing. I gotta say. We think

02:37:47.290 --> 02:37:50.450
you can answer everything with just saying it's

02:37:50.450 --> 02:37:52.569
neurotransmitters, but it's so much more complicated

02:37:52.569 --> 02:37:56.309
than that. Bro, even when I, as an example, he

02:37:56.309 --> 02:37:58.329
was talking about seeing the Adirondacks, right?

02:37:58.469 --> 02:38:00.950
That means a lot to him. When I go to Greece,

02:38:01.149 --> 02:38:05.020
I physically feel something. Right. Like in my

02:38:05.020 --> 02:38:08.200
heart, like that, I can't describe. Right. And

02:38:08.200 --> 02:38:11.340
when I come home, feeling that feeling go away

02:38:11.340 --> 02:38:15.559
is like, it's like a portal, a portal in time

02:38:15.559 --> 02:38:17.739
is closing. It's so emotional, dude. It's brought

02:38:17.739 --> 02:38:20.219
tears to my eyes. I got to say that. Sorry. I

02:38:20.219 --> 02:38:21.680
didn't mean to cut you off. No, no. It's just,

02:38:21.680 --> 02:38:24.739
there's some things where it's like, like I can

02:38:24.739 --> 02:38:28.020
feel my ancestors that have been there. I can

02:38:28.020 --> 02:38:31.899
physically feel them. And it's in my heart. Like

02:38:31.899 --> 02:38:34.360
that's, that's not just neurotransmitters, bro.

02:38:34.500 --> 02:38:36.540
You know, it's not just like, oh yeah, it's,

02:38:36.540 --> 02:38:38.340
you know, my dopamine is wearing off because

02:38:38.340 --> 02:38:40.000
I'm home from vacation. I just wanted to say

02:38:40.000 --> 02:38:41.840
one thing. I mean, yeah. I think the coolest.

02:38:41.840 --> 02:38:43.540
It could be though. The coolest thing I think.

02:38:43.540 --> 02:38:45.260
No, it's not though. It's like, it's a spiritual

02:38:45.260 --> 02:38:48.120
connection. And this is why no matter how separated

02:38:48.120 --> 02:38:51.020
you are from, you know, secular society, right?

02:38:51.420 --> 02:38:54.620
You, people always come back to God. They always

02:38:54.620 --> 02:38:57.260
come back to religion, right? Not a he or a she,

02:38:57.360 --> 02:39:00.610
just there is some higher being. And people,

02:39:00.670 --> 02:39:02.530
when they get disconnected from that, whatever

02:39:02.530 --> 02:39:07.670
that is, things go wrong. It's like a pathology.

02:39:08.290 --> 02:39:11.750
Even with AA, one of the first things they tell

02:39:11.750 --> 02:39:12.549
you is you have to believe. You have to surrender

02:39:12.549 --> 02:39:15.329
to a higher power. You have to. Otherwise, it's

02:39:15.329 --> 02:39:17.690
like you're going to make something else your

02:39:17.690 --> 02:39:20.850
God. Well, because people say without religion,

02:39:21.030 --> 02:39:23.370
we have no reason to be good people. We have

02:39:23.370 --> 02:39:28.159
no reason to be lawful people. It doesn't necessarily

02:39:28.159 --> 02:39:30.399
have to be religion, though. There's a difference

02:39:30.399 --> 02:39:32.540
between religion and believing in a higher power,

02:39:32.700 --> 02:39:35.719
though. But Tyler's saying, why don't we have

02:39:35.719 --> 02:39:39.780
morals if we don't have religion? I'm more saying

02:39:39.780 --> 02:39:43.299
if there is no God, there is no morals. I just

02:39:43.299 --> 02:39:45.399
wanted to say the one thing I wanted to say that

02:39:45.399 --> 02:39:47.659
just kind of drives home the point, which is

02:39:47.659 --> 02:39:50.120
it kind of blew me away how much it impacted

02:39:50.120 --> 02:39:51.879
me because it's something I don't think would

02:39:51.879 --> 02:39:54.350
have a couple years to go. I was washing down

02:39:54.350 --> 02:39:56.950
my rig at the end of a shift and there was like

02:39:56.950 --> 02:39:59.190
a moth that got right in the way of like the

02:39:59.190 --> 02:40:02.149
stream of like the, the hose I was using. And

02:40:02.149 --> 02:40:04.629
it was all like frantically like spazzing to

02:40:04.629 --> 02:40:07.309
death, like in the fucking water. And I like

02:40:07.309 --> 02:40:09.069
picked it up with like a, I can't even remember

02:40:09.069 --> 02:40:10.790
how I picked it up. I think I used like a paper

02:40:10.790 --> 02:40:13.229
towel or something. Oh no, I used like a little

02:40:13.229 --> 02:40:15.750
piece of plastic and I got it off and then I

02:40:15.750 --> 02:40:19.739
left it on. like a chair underneath a lamp and

02:40:19.739 --> 02:40:22.100
I was doing all this research like on moths and

02:40:22.100 --> 02:40:23.899
I was like, is this thing dead? And it's like,

02:40:23.940 --> 02:40:27.159
no, they kind of play dead and it might've drowned,

02:40:27.200 --> 02:40:30.319
but honestly kind of by assistance of AI, I'll

02:40:30.319 --> 02:40:33.459
fully admit. And I was like, I kind of like set

02:40:33.459 --> 02:40:36.440
it up in a spot where it's like moths get waterlogged.

02:40:36.440 --> 02:40:38.459
It's really easy for water to like get fucked

02:40:38.459 --> 02:40:40.680
up in their wings and shit. And then like my

02:40:40.680 --> 02:40:42.780
partner saw me do that. I didn't say anything

02:40:42.780 --> 02:40:44.180
to him. He's like, what are you doing? It was

02:40:44.180 --> 02:40:47.409
like, I just, I feel like, actually like horrible

02:40:47.409 --> 02:40:49.450
that I just sprayed this thing with it. And I

02:40:49.450 --> 02:40:51.670
wasn't as gentle as I could have been to like

02:40:51.670 --> 02:40:53.510
get it out of the water, even though I tried

02:40:53.510 --> 02:40:55.350
to be, but I could have taken more care to get

02:40:55.350 --> 02:40:56.989
it out. So I was really worried. I like fucked

02:40:56.989 --> 02:40:59.329
its leg up or something, but I got it out of

02:40:59.329 --> 02:41:01.229
the water and I left it on this chair underneath

02:41:01.229 --> 02:41:03.989
a lamp on this piece of plastic. And I was working

02:41:03.989 --> 02:41:05.870
with the same partner the next day. And after

02:41:05.870 --> 02:41:07.309
I told him all this stuff, I was like, dude,

02:41:07.350 --> 02:41:10.790
if that moth is gone by tomorrow and it like

02:41:10.790 --> 02:41:13.409
got itself off of that thing. I am just going

02:41:13.409 --> 02:41:15.930
to be so happy tomorrow that like I made that

02:41:15.930 --> 02:41:17.709
decision and I like tried to get it out of there.

02:41:17.790 --> 02:41:20.229
And I came in, we both got into work at the same

02:41:20.229 --> 02:41:22.930
time. And the first thought on both me and his

02:41:22.930 --> 02:41:25.430
mind was like, is that moth? All right. And we

02:41:25.430 --> 02:41:28.360
went out moth. Wasn't on the. moth wasn't on

02:41:28.360 --> 02:41:30.379
the seal so it's got the piece of plastic rather

02:41:30.379 --> 02:41:33.700
so it uh got up and it flew away and me and him

02:41:33.700 --> 02:41:36.479
were like pumped we gave each other a hug like

02:41:36.479 --> 02:41:39.159
we borderline we and i'm not even like regular

02:41:39.159 --> 02:41:41.559
partners with this guy but he like we got into

02:41:41.559 --> 02:41:43.979
like this deep philosophical talk at the end

02:41:43.979 --> 02:41:46.879
of it about like how I just felt like shit about

02:41:46.879 --> 02:41:48.799
it. It's like, yeah, I would too. Like you didn't

02:41:48.799 --> 02:41:50.540
do anything wrong. You didn't see it, but you

02:41:50.540 --> 02:41:52.200
did everything you could after the fact, but

02:41:52.200 --> 02:41:54.860
like, let's hope it's not dead. And just the

02:41:54.860 --> 02:41:56.799
fact that it didn't die the next day, we were

02:41:56.799 --> 02:42:00.319
both just like, fuck. Yeah, man. Like, fuck.

02:42:00.319 --> 02:42:02.180
Yeah. But you probably hit 10 of them on the

02:42:02.180 --> 02:42:05.879
way driving. Yeah. And I thought about that too,

02:42:05.940 --> 02:42:08.299
but it's like you, those are things. And that

02:42:08.299 --> 02:42:11.280
brings a deeper philosophical question of like,

02:42:11.920 --> 02:42:14.379
where's the line because the world that we're

02:42:14.379 --> 02:42:17.020
born into no matter what we are part of this

02:42:17.020 --> 02:42:19.600
machine that like if you want to be self -sufficient

02:42:19.600 --> 02:42:22.600
right off the rip is like a child you can't really

02:42:22.600 --> 02:42:26.079
be unless you're born into a family that takes

02:42:26.079 --> 02:42:29.540
ridiculous care to not harm anything but like

02:42:29.540 --> 02:42:33.280
if you're fucking like ordering amazon packages

02:42:33.280 --> 02:42:36.059
you're harming the environment if you go to the

02:42:36.059 --> 02:42:37.700
grocery store and you buy pretty much anything

02:42:37.700 --> 02:42:40.870
in the grocery store something had to pay for

02:42:40.870 --> 02:42:42.469
it at some point like we're all part of like

02:42:42.469 --> 02:42:44.709
this industrial nightmare that kind of destroys

02:42:44.709 --> 02:42:47.350
our planet to a certain extent I kind of wanted

02:42:47.350 --> 02:42:49.829
to go off of Dan's thing where he said that like

02:42:49.829 --> 02:42:53.250
when he was in Greece like he felt like that

02:42:53.250 --> 02:42:56.030
there's moments where I do apologize boys I don't

02:42:56.030 --> 02:42:57.209
know if I'm going to be able to make Jeopardy

02:42:57.209 --> 02:42:59.170
tonight I might have to head out soon I'm probably

02:42:59.170 --> 02:43:01.709
going to head out soon too but there's a moment

02:43:01.709 --> 02:43:04.590
when you go to a place like you would go to Greece

02:43:04.590 --> 02:43:07.629
I would go like to the Adirondacks and I'm just

02:43:07.629 --> 02:43:10.579
standing there And you get that feeling, and

02:43:10.579 --> 02:43:12.520
I'm sure that you can associate this with, like,

02:43:12.520 --> 02:43:14.959
Greece and stuff, but for me, I'm standing on

02:43:14.959 --> 02:43:17.059
top of a mountain in the Adirondacks looking

02:43:17.059 --> 02:43:20.180
out over, like, Lake George, just seeing everything.

02:43:20.799 --> 02:43:22.899
And you just get the feeling that, you know,

02:43:22.940 --> 02:43:25.579
everything is going to be all right. There's

02:43:25.579 --> 02:43:27.719
not that doubt in you that you have all the time.

02:43:27.780 --> 02:43:29.500
Like, you just look at it and you're like, you

02:43:29.500 --> 02:43:32.100
know what? Everything's going to be all right.

02:43:32.520 --> 02:43:35.059
And, like, that's one of the things that, like,

02:43:35.059 --> 02:43:37.219
I can see, I can feel God in is, like, when,

02:43:37.239 --> 02:43:39.139
like, you're standing there, And you're looking

02:43:39.139 --> 02:43:42.319
down at a place that you find a spiritual connection

02:43:42.319 --> 02:43:45.399
with, for lack of a better term. And you're just

02:43:45.399 --> 02:43:48.059
standing there and you look out and you get that

02:43:48.059 --> 02:43:50.819
like just overwhelming feeling of calm and overwhelming

02:43:50.819 --> 02:43:53.680
feeling of just this is where you're supposed

02:43:53.680 --> 02:43:57.639
to be right now. And you get that just like everything's

02:43:57.639 --> 02:44:01.459
going to work out. Like you don't have to worry

02:44:01.459 --> 02:44:03.659
as much as you think you do. Everything will

02:44:03.659 --> 02:44:06.680
work out eventually. And like it's it's it's

02:44:06.680 --> 02:44:09.139
moments. It's small moments and small human moments

02:44:09.139 --> 02:44:13.260
like that. Like I also go on vacation to Maine

02:44:13.260 --> 02:44:16.319
every year. And when I sit down on the on the

02:44:16.319 --> 02:44:19.940
the the there's the beach at night looking out

02:44:19.940 --> 02:44:21.760
at the moon and I can see the lighthouse all

02:44:21.760 --> 02:44:23.620
the way out there just spinning when it's light.

02:44:24.000 --> 02:44:27.090
And you just go. It's those moments when you

02:44:27.090 --> 02:44:30.069
can take a breath, look back, and be like, with

02:44:30.069 --> 02:44:32.170
all the chaos in this world, with all the bad

02:44:32.170 --> 02:44:34.129
things that happened, with all this other shit,

02:44:34.229 --> 02:44:35.969
you can look out and go, you know what? Things

02:44:35.969 --> 02:44:38.889
are going to be all right. And that's where I

02:44:38.889 --> 02:44:42.530
feel God, is when you can take back, sit there,

02:44:42.690 --> 02:44:46.909
take in that place that's important to you. And

02:44:46.909 --> 02:44:49.430
I feel like God laid out that place specifically

02:44:49.430 --> 02:44:53.370
for the person and being like, you know what

02:44:53.370 --> 02:44:55.090
when you're sitting there and you can feel that

02:44:55.090 --> 02:44:56.790
everything's going to be all right eventually

02:44:56.790 --> 02:45:00.049
yeah and that's a i feel like that's a really

02:45:00.049 --> 02:45:03.290
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You get 21 % off. What? How much are you making

02:45:39.770 --> 02:45:43.549
pimping out our podcast? We actually were making

02:45:43.549 --> 02:45:46.030
a lot recently. Dude, we could have made so much

02:45:46.030 --> 02:45:48.409
more if I connected it. Because there's a spot

02:45:48.409 --> 02:45:50.930
in threads that says connect your podcast. So

02:45:50.930 --> 02:45:53.049
when people look at your profile. Bro, we would

02:45:53.049 --> 02:45:55.989
have had like fucking 100 new viewers. They think

02:45:55.989 --> 02:45:58.170
they're going to get fired. Huh? They think they're

02:45:58.170 --> 02:45:59.329
going to get fired. Yeah, I probably would get

02:45:59.329 --> 02:46:02.530
fired for half the shit that I've said. I mean,

02:46:02.629 --> 02:46:06.309
that's okay. I mean, we're about to not have

02:46:06.309 --> 02:46:09.219
jobs, so we don't care. Well, I mean, I don't,

02:46:09.219 --> 02:46:12.180
so I don't give a fuck. I'm off the grid, dude.

02:46:12.319 --> 02:46:15.159
Yeah, exactly. Couldn't give two shits. Gents,

02:46:15.159 --> 02:46:16.920
I apologize. I'm going to have to take off here.

02:46:17.059 --> 02:46:18.860
Oh, man. I'm going to probably head out, too.

02:46:18.920 --> 02:46:21.680
I got to work tomorrow. Unlike. All right, Dan

02:46:21.680 --> 02:46:25.239
wins Jeopardy. What's that? Dan wins Jeopardy,

02:46:25.239 --> 02:46:33.110
my people. Fuck yeah. Yeah, Dan wins. We can

02:46:33.110 --> 02:46:36.309
all stay and talk to Casey about some geopolitical

02:46:36.309 --> 02:46:38.430
shit for a little bit. Fuck yeah. I'll listen

02:46:38.430 --> 02:46:40.510
tomorrow. Yeah, you guys will get angry at each

02:46:40.510 --> 02:46:44.389
other. I gotta get home to the wifey. 1230. Oh,

02:46:44.430 --> 02:46:48.489
that's not bad. I gotta work in fucking seven

02:46:48.489 --> 02:46:51.549
hours. I don't even remember what that's like.

02:46:51.670 --> 02:46:53.309
Thank you for the nicotine pouches, Tyler. It's

02:46:53.309 --> 02:46:55.389
just a reminder that there's a higher power that

02:46:55.389 --> 02:46:58.360
you cared enough to get. Oh, fuck it. No, you

02:46:58.360 --> 02:47:00.340
can take... I'm leaving that one here. You want

02:47:00.340 --> 02:47:02.379
a nicotine pouch? Oh, fuck yeah, dude. What's

02:47:02.379 --> 02:47:04.780
going on right now? These are so... Tyler's fucking

02:47:04.780 --> 02:47:07.379
vaping and drinking. He got me into it, dude.

02:47:07.500 --> 02:47:10.440
Dude, these are good. Holy shit. It's the Tucker

02:47:10.440 --> 02:47:14.299
Carlson ones, man. Yeah. Fuck yeah. No, I'd be

02:47:14.299 --> 02:47:16.879
down to do Jeopardy, like, tomorrow night or

02:47:16.879 --> 02:47:18.639
something if we, like, call in for it or something.

02:47:18.819 --> 02:47:21.379
I just... I gotta get home now. Alright, we'll

02:47:21.379 --> 02:47:41.559
take a break. We'll be back. Welcome back to

02:47:41.559 --> 02:47:50.079
the party, my guy. Episode 129. Back with Dan.

02:47:51.840 --> 02:48:00.569
129 episodes. Hell yeah. We got quite a collection

02:48:00.569 --> 02:48:05.610
now. I know. We're going to get to 200 soon.

02:48:07.090 --> 02:48:11.469
What if some company was like, we'll give you

02:48:11.469 --> 02:48:16.850
$250 ,000 each. They're just going to buy us

02:48:16.850 --> 02:48:19.770
out? They're going to buy us out. $250 ,000 for

02:48:19.770 --> 02:48:23.969
each person on the podcast. Well, how are they

02:48:23.969 --> 02:48:26.010
going to buy us out? We have to keep doing it.

02:48:27.539 --> 02:48:29.500
No, but they want to buy our whole collection.

02:48:30.100 --> 02:48:33.120
What we made already. We have to keep... We get...

02:48:33.120 --> 02:48:36.840
Okay, we get... I'll fucking take the money.

02:48:36.860 --> 02:48:39.260
I'll start a new podcast. We each get 10 grand

02:48:39.260 --> 02:48:42.280
per episode after that. So they buy the whole

02:48:42.280 --> 02:48:45.500
previous collection for a million dollars. I

02:48:45.500 --> 02:48:48.500
mean, at that point, that seems like that's a

02:48:48.500 --> 02:48:51.280
deal that's not in our favor because it seems

02:48:51.280 --> 02:48:54.440
like it could blow up more. No, no. What if it

02:48:54.440 --> 02:48:57.879
was 10 ,000... $10 ,000 per episode. I'd take

02:48:57.879 --> 02:49:02.020
the deal. But we did four episodes a month. So

02:49:02.020 --> 02:49:06.920
we each got... $40 ,000. No, no, no. We wouldn't

02:49:06.920 --> 02:49:09.440
each get $40 ,000. That's too much. What if it

02:49:09.440 --> 02:49:14.540
was $2 ,500 each per episode? Each person per

02:49:14.540 --> 02:49:18.079
episode. So $10 ,000 for the whole crew. $40

02:49:18.079 --> 02:49:19.819
,000 split between the four of you. $10 ,000

02:49:19.819 --> 02:49:23.049
a month each. Would you do it full -time? yeah

02:49:23.049 --> 02:49:25.389
10 grand a month that's better than i'm making

02:49:25.389 --> 02:49:29.030
now yeah i would do it well fuck yeah that's

02:49:29.030 --> 02:49:32.850
like yeah that's probably what 300 000 a year

02:49:32.850 --> 02:49:36.909
no 10 grand a month 10 grand a month no it's

02:49:36.909 --> 02:49:42.069
gotta be like 120 000 yeah that's not bad no

02:49:42.069 --> 02:49:46.430
i would do it i'd quit my job and do it damn

02:49:46.430 --> 02:49:49.290
so here's what i was saying uh back when we were

02:49:49.290 --> 02:49:53.329
talking about uh the venezuela thing was that

02:49:53.329 --> 02:49:56.530
uh trump actually met with bb like last week

02:49:56.530 --> 02:49:59.969
or something and shook his hand i'm like we had

02:49:59.969 --> 02:50:03.969
the opportunity to kidnap this dictator who committed

02:50:03.969 --> 02:50:07.149
a genocide but we didn't do it yeah but the difference

02:50:07.149 --> 02:50:11.579
is is that he's our ally dude Like, Israel's

02:50:11.579 --> 02:50:14.219
an ally of ours. They shouldn't be, though. He

02:50:14.219 --> 02:50:17.739
shook his hand, and you know what else he did?

02:50:18.079 --> 02:50:21.780
He gave him $10 million because we give Israel

02:50:21.780 --> 02:50:24.879
about $10 million a day. Did he hand him over

02:50:24.879 --> 02:50:27.559
$10 million? Well, we do that every single day.

02:50:28.159 --> 02:50:30.479
Okay, did he do that personally? Did Trump hand

02:50:30.479 --> 02:50:32.600
him $10 million? Well, he wrote him a check.

02:50:33.520 --> 02:50:36.159
Did he? Did he sign a check, Donald J. Trump?

02:50:36.420 --> 02:50:39.579
Well, it's automatic that $10 million a day goes

02:50:39.579 --> 02:50:42.989
to Israel. Right. No, he didn't hand him $10

02:50:42.989 --> 02:50:47.110
million. He didn't arrest him either for war

02:50:47.110 --> 02:50:51.989
crimes. The thing is, right, there's two sides

02:50:51.989 --> 02:50:58.290
to every story. Hamas came in and killed, what

02:50:58.290 --> 02:51:01.049
was it, 1 ,200 people in one shot, one clip?

02:51:01.889 --> 02:51:04.270
Yeah, they kill each other. So they said, fuck

02:51:04.270 --> 02:51:06.770
these people. Dude, I have a theory, actually.

02:51:07.450 --> 02:51:10.239
This whole thing with Greenland. I think they're

02:51:10.239 --> 02:51:13.520
looking for a place for the Palestinians. I'm

02:51:13.520 --> 02:51:15.459
dead serious because there's nowhere else you

02:51:15.459 --> 02:51:17.040
can put them. Egypt's not going to take them.

02:51:17.520 --> 02:51:19.399
Nobody wants them. So they literally look around

02:51:19.399 --> 02:51:21.899
the map. I swear to God, bro. Like sometimes

02:51:21.899 --> 02:51:24.120
I make shit up and then it ends up coming true.

02:51:24.299 --> 02:51:27.100
I made it. I do. All right. So I made a post

02:51:27.100 --> 02:51:29.360
after my one that went viral. I made another

02:51:29.360 --> 02:51:32.139
post that said we're going to buy Greenland from

02:51:32.139 --> 02:51:34.600
Denmark for $10 billion and we're going to give

02:51:34.600 --> 02:51:38.590
each citizen. $500 ,000 out of the tariff fund,

02:51:38.690 --> 02:51:43.229
right? The next day, today, Trump comes out and

02:51:43.229 --> 02:51:46.649
says, we're going to give each citizen of Greenland

02:51:46.649 --> 02:51:51.030
$100 ,000. It's like, dude. So sometimes the

02:51:51.030 --> 02:51:53.190
things you make up, they deleted that post that

02:51:53.190 --> 02:51:55.709
I posted, by the way. They took it down. It was

02:51:55.709 --> 02:51:58.170
up to like 13 ,000 views and they cut. Oh, like

02:51:58.170 --> 02:52:00.149
he's going to buy Greenland and give money to

02:52:00.149 --> 02:52:03.250
the people? Yeah. Yeah, but I was joking and

02:52:03.250 --> 02:52:06.030
I made a post saying that the next day they came

02:52:06.030 --> 02:52:08.590
out and said that. So you can almost they're

02:52:08.590 --> 02:52:11.129
almost so dumb that you can guess what they're

02:52:11.129 --> 02:52:15.909
doing. Right. Like, dude, there is a high probability

02:52:15.909 --> 02:52:20.549
that if you just think about geopolitics in the

02:52:20.549 --> 02:52:22.969
frame of how does this affect Israel? Like, how

02:52:22.969 --> 02:52:25.229
does buying Greenland affect Israel? They probably

02:52:25.229 --> 02:52:27.170
looked at the map and they're like, well, where

02:52:27.170 --> 02:52:29.750
the fuck can we put these people? We've got to

02:52:29.750 --> 02:52:32.170
get them the fuck away from Israel. So they're

02:52:32.170 --> 02:52:33.829
looking around the map and they're like, what's

02:52:33.829 --> 02:52:37.149
this chunk of land here? Who lives there? Fucking

02:52:37.149 --> 02:52:40.530
nobody. Let's fucking put them there. Dude, we're

02:52:40.530 --> 02:52:42.989
saying that this is like, you know, this is all

02:52:42.989 --> 02:52:46.889
about securing like resources in the Arctic.

02:52:47.209 --> 02:52:51.909
The Arctic are like fighting Russia. Intercontinental

02:52:51.909 --> 02:52:54.649
ballistic missile placement. Dude, it's about

02:52:54.649 --> 02:52:56.850
fucking shoving the Palestinians there. They're

02:52:56.850 --> 02:52:58.950
going to shove them in fucking Greenland. They'll

02:52:58.950 --> 02:53:01.170
be like, here's your fucking new homeland. That's

02:53:01.170 --> 02:53:03.010
fucked up because they're fucking desert people.

02:53:03.190 --> 02:53:06.010
You just throw them in fucking Iceland. I mean,

02:53:06.049 --> 02:53:08.229
dude, you know, black people live up here. So,

02:53:08.309 --> 02:53:13.149
you know, they're fine. No, they're probably

02:53:13.149 --> 02:53:16.750
cold. They're probably real cold. They all have

02:53:16.750 --> 02:53:20.030
like six packs, like indefinitely, you know?

02:53:20.069 --> 02:53:23.090
Yeah. So they're like, they don't have a lot

02:53:23.090 --> 02:53:26.030
of body fat percentage. I don't know. Megan's

02:53:26.030 --> 02:53:30.370
always cold. Is she? Yeah. I'm always cold too,

02:53:30.389 --> 02:53:34.110
though. But yeah, dude, I really think they're

02:53:34.110 --> 02:53:35.629
going to try and shove the Palestinians there.

02:53:35.850 --> 02:53:38.309
That's my guess. You heard it here first, folks.

02:53:38.909 --> 02:53:42.530
That theory, nobody else has come here. Actually,

02:53:42.569 --> 02:53:46.010
I should make a post on. I got to be careful.

02:53:46.090 --> 02:53:47.989
I don't want to get offed. Dude, you know how

02:53:47.989 --> 02:53:50.549
bad it would look if we fucking got into a war

02:53:50.549 --> 02:53:53.610
with Denmark? We're not going. It wouldn't be

02:53:53.610 --> 02:53:56.250
a war. It would be a war because they said they're

02:53:56.250 --> 02:53:59.049
going to defend Greenland. They're going to shoot

02:53:59.049 --> 02:54:01.709
first, ask questions later. Well, dude, we need

02:54:01.709 --> 02:54:05.370
that land. But it's not ours to take. But they're

02:54:05.370 --> 02:54:08.129
not doing anything with it, dude. They're doing

02:54:08.129 --> 02:54:09.649
the same thing that we're going to do with it.

02:54:09.930 --> 02:54:12.190
They're not doing jack shit, dude. What is Denmark

02:54:12.190 --> 02:54:13.750
going to fucking do with Greenland? What are

02:54:13.750 --> 02:54:15.430
we going to do with Greenland? Bro, we would

02:54:15.430 --> 02:54:17.209
have it conquered by the time they even got a

02:54:17.209 --> 02:54:19.909
boat there. Like, they don't even fucking...

02:54:19.909 --> 02:54:23.629
It's like, bro, we need that shit, bro. We run

02:54:23.629 --> 02:54:27.569
shit, dude. No, I'm just joking. My actual take...

02:54:29.770 --> 02:54:33.450
is like what the fuck is going on that's my actual

02:54:33.450 --> 02:54:37.010
day but just to get people fired up i just i

02:54:37.010 --> 02:54:39.250
just try and play the i literally on twitter

02:54:39.250 --> 02:54:42.649
i changed my name to the imperialist and i started

02:54:42.649 --> 02:54:44.569
doing all the same posts that i'm doing on threads

02:54:44.569 --> 02:54:47.590
you're just doing what you did back when trump

02:54:47.590 --> 02:54:50.110
first got elected i'm having so much fun it's

02:54:50.110 --> 02:54:53.190
just that it is great it's just a great political

02:54:53.190 --> 02:54:55.270
environment as long as you're having fun you

02:54:55.270 --> 02:54:58.790
know as a 35 year old man I love it. Just getting

02:54:58.790 --> 02:55:01.250
into rage baiting with people on the internet.

02:55:02.030 --> 02:55:05.649
It'll never get old. It'll never get old. That

02:55:05.649 --> 02:55:09.549
could be your new full -time job. I know. Dude,

02:55:09.790 --> 02:55:13.590
if I could monetize it, God, I would. That was

02:55:13.590 --> 02:55:18.090
a bucket list thing, though, to go viral. It's

02:55:18.090 --> 02:55:22.229
soft viral. True viral is over a million. 400

02:55:22.229 --> 02:55:27.850
,000 is soft viral. Yeah, man. Going to war with

02:55:27.850 --> 02:55:31.709
Denmark, it'll be, if we take Greenland, NATO's

02:55:31.709 --> 02:55:35.590
over. That's it. It's done. No more NATO. No.

02:55:35.969 --> 02:55:39.770
But, you know, I was going to make a post saying

02:55:39.770 --> 02:55:44.190
that NATO is racist and that North Atlantic is

02:55:44.190 --> 02:55:47.290
just code word for white people. And, dude, that

02:55:47.290 --> 02:55:49.170
would fucking, if that went around, that would

02:55:49.170 --> 02:55:51.250
be another one that would go viral. I just don't

02:55:51.250 --> 02:55:53.250
have the heart to do it because then if NATO

02:55:53.250 --> 02:55:55.850
crumbles, I feel like I would have had some part

02:55:55.850 --> 02:55:58.840
in it. I don't know. North, North Atlantic is

02:55:58.840 --> 02:56:01.139
a, that's a lot of white people. That is all

02:56:01.139 --> 02:56:03.819
white people. And as a matter of fact, it's like,

02:56:03.840 --> 02:56:05.920
what is Turkey doing in the North Atlantic treaty

02:56:05.920 --> 02:56:09.840
organization? Turkey. Turkey. Yeah. What is,

02:56:09.899 --> 02:56:12.940
why, why is, I mean, you know, not that I'm bashing

02:56:12.940 --> 02:56:14.680
it. Well, I mean, Ukraine wants to be in it.

02:56:15.680 --> 02:56:17.979
Right. And then we say, oh, well it's North Atlantic.

02:56:18.040 --> 02:56:20.479
It's like, okay, so why aren't there any African

02:56:20.479 --> 02:56:23.139
countries in it? It's not really a North Atlantic

02:56:23.139 --> 02:56:25.989
anymore. It's not, but that's our excuse for

02:56:25.989 --> 02:56:28.809
not letting Japan in because it's North Atlantic.

02:56:29.110 --> 02:56:31.889
Well, why would we want Japan to be in? I mean,

02:56:31.930 --> 02:56:36.209
it didn't go well in the 1940s. Dude, because

02:56:36.209 --> 02:56:39.469
they're one of our best allies right now. Japan

02:56:39.469 --> 02:56:42.670
is one of our best allies. Yeah, but you can't

02:56:42.670 --> 02:56:45.190
really trust them. Dude, what do you mean you

02:56:45.190 --> 02:56:47.510
can't trust them? They're fucking fantastic.

02:56:47.850 --> 02:56:52.069
Did you forget World War II? Bro, we're allies

02:56:52.069 --> 02:56:55.299
with Germany. Did we forget World War II? Yeah,

02:56:55.299 --> 02:56:58.799
I know. It's like, you can, like, be friends

02:56:58.799 --> 02:57:02.159
with them and, like, have them commit military

02:57:02.159 --> 02:57:04.540
to us, but you gotta, like, keep in the back

02:57:04.540 --> 02:57:07.000
of your mind, like, you know, if they get out

02:57:07.000 --> 02:57:10.440
of control, this is what's gonna happen. Dude,

02:57:10.459 --> 02:57:13.200
that was, like, 70 years ago. Yeah, but... No,

02:57:13.200 --> 02:57:17.540
how long ago was it? 40, so... 80 years. 80 years.

02:57:18.219 --> 02:57:24.350
Like, dude, they're good. It's like, That's long

02:57:24.350 --> 02:57:26.790
past. That's water under the bridge. They can

02:57:26.790 --> 02:57:29.870
be an ally. But it's like, why is Turkey in the

02:57:29.870 --> 02:57:32.010
North Atlantic Treaty Organization but Japan

02:57:32.010 --> 02:57:36.770
isn't? I think... Why do we draw the line at

02:57:36.770 --> 02:57:39.489
fucking... It's literally we draw the line at

02:57:39.489 --> 02:57:43.430
white people being in the treaty. Right. We stop

02:57:43.430 --> 02:57:46.469
at Africa. It's like, dude, literally, we don't

02:57:46.469 --> 02:57:48.889
have one African nation in the treaty. There's

02:57:48.889 --> 02:57:51.370
not really any Asian countries in it. Right.

02:57:51.430 --> 02:57:54.280
It's racist. Yeah. It's racist. And I really

02:57:54.280 --> 02:57:56.200
think another reason that Trump might be going

02:57:56.200 --> 02:57:58.899
for Greenland is he wants to break NATO because

02:57:58.899 --> 02:58:00.899
he's fucking sick of it. He's sick of people

02:58:00.899 --> 02:58:03.680
not paying their fair share. The United States

02:58:03.680 --> 02:58:06.379
foots the bill for the entire thing. So he's

02:58:06.379 --> 02:58:09.760
like, fine. Or, one, he either wants to break

02:58:09.760 --> 02:58:13.079
NATO. All right, we'll start from the top. He

02:58:13.079 --> 02:58:14.639
either wants to find a place for the Palestinians,

02:58:14.959 --> 02:58:19.120
a place to shove these people. He wants to break

02:58:19.120 --> 02:58:22.260
NATO. Or he wants to show the NATO allies that,

02:58:22.569 --> 02:58:25.110
Look, if somebody was threatening you, there's

02:58:25.110 --> 02:58:27.229
no way you could defend yourself. Why would you

02:58:27.229 --> 02:58:30.430
want to break NATO? That's 30 % of our fucking

02:58:30.430 --> 02:58:33.290
troops that we have in alliance that we would

02:58:33.290 --> 02:58:35.950
be losing. Because it doesn't serve a purpose

02:58:35.950 --> 02:58:39.549
anymore. But the United States is basically the

02:58:39.549 --> 02:58:44.309
leader of NATO. Right. And so if we're footing

02:58:44.309 --> 02:58:46.350
the bill for everything, it's kind of like, hey,

02:58:46.370 --> 02:58:48.549
man, we're all going to go in on dinner, right?

02:58:48.870 --> 02:58:50.690
There's 10 people. We're all going to chip in.

02:58:52.059 --> 02:58:55.200
The United States is paying 80 % of it, of dinner,

02:58:55.319 --> 02:58:57.780
right? Like, I mean, you're paying 80 % of it,

02:58:57.860 --> 02:59:01.819
right? Like, that's not fair to the person paying

02:59:01.819 --> 02:59:04.520
80%. You're like, this is kind of a shitty deal

02:59:04.520 --> 02:59:06.899
for me, right? Why do the American taxpayers,

02:59:07.280 --> 02:59:11.760
like, we're in $38 trillion of debt. Why are

02:59:11.760 --> 02:59:15.920
we bankrolling defense for all of Europe? I don't

02:59:15.920 --> 02:59:18.000
know. Why are we giving $10 million a day to

02:59:18.000 --> 02:59:20.500
Israel? Right, like, why are we doing any of

02:59:20.500 --> 02:59:24.340
this shit? Like, let's fucking cut it off. If

02:59:24.340 --> 02:59:29.379
I became president, I would say all of our aid

02:59:29.379 --> 02:59:33.239
to Israel is done. Like, we're done being allies

02:59:33.239 --> 02:59:35.319
with Israel. I know. And then they just pull

02:59:35.319 --> 02:59:37.639
out of the banking sector and let the country

02:59:37.639 --> 02:59:40.200
collapse. They got us by the balls, dude, in

02:59:40.200 --> 02:59:46.139
that regard. They really do. Yeah, dude, I think

02:59:46.139 --> 02:59:51.469
NATO's on the brink. It's on the brink of collapsing.

02:59:52.370 --> 02:59:56.190
It's funny because this new game just came out

02:59:56.190 --> 03:00:01.530
called Battlefield 6 and it's about NATO and

03:00:01.530 --> 03:00:05.209
Russia or whatever you call it fighting like

03:00:05.209 --> 03:00:10.049
World War 3 and it's just interesting because

03:00:10.049 --> 03:00:12.549
you fucking fight the Russians. It's like what's

03:00:12.549 --> 03:00:14.829
actually going to happen probably in a few years.

03:00:15.110 --> 03:00:16.649
I don't think it's going to happen. No, I think

03:00:16.649 --> 03:00:20.420
it is. Dude, I saw Sorry, I didn't mean to cut

03:00:20.420 --> 03:00:23.540
you off. I just thought of something. I don't

03:00:23.540 --> 03:00:27.139
know if you heard about the seizure of the ships,

03:00:27.219 --> 03:00:30.780
the oil tankers. Yeah, we took the Venezuela

03:00:30.780 --> 03:00:34.340
oil tanker that was going to Russia. Yeah, yeah.

03:00:34.520 --> 03:00:37.079
Well, there was one we took initially, and then

03:00:37.079 --> 03:00:39.899
we took a second one. And that second one we

03:00:39.899 --> 03:00:44.799
took, dude, that was fucking... That was one

03:00:44.799 --> 03:00:47.079
of the most insane things if you watch a video

03:00:47.079 --> 03:00:49.760
on how it was done. It's one of the most insane

03:00:49.760 --> 03:00:53.659
military operations that was executed so strategically.

03:00:54.360 --> 03:00:57.639
It's like the United States has had 20 years

03:00:57.639 --> 03:01:02.040
of practice in actual war, 20 years of fucking

03:01:02.040 --> 03:01:06.899
practice. And we've perfected war. Like it's

03:01:06.899 --> 03:01:09.340
not, maybe not perfected, but we're fucking,

03:01:09.399 --> 03:01:13.399
we're the empire dude. And, um, if you watch

03:01:13.399 --> 03:01:15.659
a video on how this was done, I mean, we had

03:01:15.659 --> 03:01:19.600
airplanes drop sonar buoys. into the water surrounding

03:01:19.600 --> 03:01:21.879
the russian submarine so we could track exactly

03:01:21.879 --> 03:01:24.840
where it was and we took the ship while it was

03:01:24.840 --> 03:01:28.200
being guarded by a nuclear sub like we knew we

03:01:28.200 --> 03:01:30.440
knew it was there and we stopped it basically

03:01:30.440 --> 03:01:33.579
in like north uh what is that it's that's the

03:01:33.579 --> 03:01:37.840
arctic above like above alaska it was on it was

03:01:37.840 --> 03:01:40.360
like off the coast of alaska further out though

03:01:40.360 --> 03:01:43.239
like more above canada i'm pretty sure that's

03:01:43.239 --> 03:01:46.239
where they got the arctic ocean yeah it was just

03:01:46.239 --> 03:01:52.479
such a Such a perfectly executed operation. Perfectly

03:01:52.479 --> 03:01:56.719
executed stealing. Yeah, but it's not theft really,

03:01:56.799 --> 03:01:58.340
dude, because they're not supposed to be transporting

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it there anywhere. They're sanctioned. Well,

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they're not supposed to be transporting it there

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when we control their country. I mean, they could

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do whatever they fucking want if we're not imperializing

03:02:10.659 --> 03:02:13.520
their country. Yeah, we're not really doing that,

03:02:13.559 --> 03:02:17.739
though. Like, dude, we had... Our oil company

03:02:17.739 --> 03:02:21.219
set up infrastructure there when we were friendly

03:02:21.219 --> 03:02:24.159
with Venezuela. And then the socialist regime

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kicked us out. So they kicked everybody out after

03:02:27.520 --> 03:02:29.559
we paid for oil infrastructure. It was probably

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in the tens of billions of dollars. Maybe hundreds

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of billions of dollars. But they were trying

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to change the name of the ship and route to its

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destination. And they changed the flag. And then

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Russia registered the ship under their country.

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So they changed it to a Russian ship en route.

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So while it was being tracked by Americans. But

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yeah, that was insane. That right there, though,

03:03:06.000 --> 03:03:13.299
that's close to war. I mean, when you're tracking

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nuclear subs, dude. That's some dangerous stuff.

03:03:17.040 --> 03:03:23.020
Yeah. They had a nuke on the sub? Venezuela has

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nukes? No, no, no. It was Russian. The Russians

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were protecting it. God, it's such a ballsy move,

03:03:31.200 --> 03:03:34.120
though. They boarded the ship. Think about this.

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They boarded the ship from Black Hawk Helicopters

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while there was a nuclear sub behind it. They

03:03:40.360 --> 03:03:42.360
said, yeah, go fuck yourself. We're taking it.

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You know? And they could have just blown it up

03:03:45.489 --> 03:03:49.030
with the nuclear sub. I think it's nuclear in

03:03:49.030 --> 03:03:50.870
the way that it's powered by nuclear energy.

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I mean, a lot of them are capable of carrying

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intercontinental ballistic missiles with nukes

03:03:59.770 --> 03:04:02.770
on them. But I don't think that's what qualifies

03:04:02.770 --> 03:04:05.750
it as a nuclear sub. It's nuclear because it's

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powered by nuclear energy. So it has an infinite

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range. Well, I mean, we invaded their country.

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Next step is we got to take their oil. yeah i

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mean why not yeah it's the right thing to do

03:04:17.670 --> 03:04:24.209
fucking um dick cheney and uh charlie kirk feel

03:04:24.209 --> 03:04:26.069
bad that they're not around for this they would

03:04:26.069 --> 03:04:29.290
have loved a war for oil yeah i mean dick cheney

03:04:29.290 --> 03:04:31.670
for sure he'd be salivating i really want to

03:04:31.670 --> 03:04:33.649
know what george bush thinks of like the fucking

03:04:33.649 --> 03:04:36.069
venezuela thing oh he probably fucking loves

03:04:36.069 --> 03:04:38.969
it right right he's probably like he's like oil

03:04:38.969 --> 03:04:43.440
oh Dude, he gets it. I wish that guy would come

03:04:43.440 --> 03:04:45.340
out of the closet once in a while. Well, not

03:04:45.340 --> 03:04:47.440
the closet, but maybe the closet. I wish he'd

03:04:47.440 --> 03:04:50.000
just come out once in a while and pipe up. He

03:04:50.000 --> 03:04:54.620
doesn't like Trump because he's one of the OG

03:04:54.620 --> 03:05:00.559
Washington, D .C. swamp creatures. Yeah. I mean,

03:05:00.579 --> 03:05:04.399
he ruined the Republican Party. George Bush?

03:05:04.659 --> 03:05:07.649
No, Trump did. No, no, no. I'm saying... I'm

03:05:07.649 --> 03:05:09.729
saying George Bush is one of the swamp creatures.

03:05:10.370 --> 03:05:13.350
I think he's just like a classic Republican.

03:05:13.850 --> 03:05:18.190
Yeah. And I think he probably thinks Trump just

03:05:18.190 --> 03:05:22.389
ruined the party. Yeah, I mean, he did, but maybe

03:05:22.389 --> 03:05:26.110
it needed to be ruined. Yeah. I think it needs

03:05:26.110 --> 03:05:28.780
to be ruined, so that way... it can destroy itself

03:05:28.780 --> 03:05:32.200
and it doesn't exist anymore. I think both sides

03:05:32.200 --> 03:05:34.639
are doing this. I don't think it's very beneficial

03:05:34.639 --> 03:05:39.280
to have conservatives in society. I mean, I think

03:05:39.280 --> 03:05:41.260
I was just talking about this with somebody on

03:05:41.260 --> 03:05:43.639
threads yesterday. They're like, I'm a moderate

03:05:43.639 --> 03:05:47.680
and all the liberals think I'm mega. I don't

03:05:47.680 --> 03:05:50.700
get it. Like I'm in the middle. It's how I feel

03:05:50.700 --> 03:05:54.120
sometimes when talking to extremists on either

03:05:54.120 --> 03:05:58.040
side is like, if you're, like supporting middle

03:05:58.040 --> 03:06:00.979
ideas and you're just extremist to them. Right.

03:06:02.200 --> 03:06:05.239
It's like these Canadian people I was fighting

03:06:05.239 --> 03:06:07.719
with. I'm like, dude, you're talking to somebody

03:06:07.719 --> 03:06:10.020
that's for gun control and drives a Toyota Prius.

03:06:10.040 --> 03:06:11.879
Like, I don't think you, I don't think you really

03:06:11.879 --> 03:06:14.479
know who you're talking to. You know, like I,

03:06:14.500 --> 03:06:18.600
I'm not MAGA. Like everybody can't be MAGA. I

03:06:18.600 --> 03:06:20.479
don't even own a MAGA hat like this one right

03:06:20.479 --> 03:06:24.049
here. Yeah. You know? I own a MAGA hat. I guess

03:06:24.049 --> 03:06:25.729
I'm more MAGA than you. You're more MAGA than

03:06:25.729 --> 03:06:30.250
I am, bro. Damn. That's fucking weird. I asked

03:06:30.250 --> 03:06:33.229
this lady I was fighting with. I was like, can

03:06:33.229 --> 03:06:35.950
I still visit Canada after this post? And she's

03:06:35.950 --> 03:06:37.350
like, yeah, just don't wear your stupid hat.

03:06:38.790 --> 03:06:42.450
I'm like, I don't own one, so we're good. I mean,

03:06:42.469 --> 03:06:47.030
if you're having people threaten to invade your

03:06:47.030 --> 03:06:50.290
country. You're going to be defensive of it.

03:06:50.389 --> 03:06:52.409
Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't blame him, but

03:06:52.409 --> 03:06:56.409
it's now, you know, now or never. Sooner or later,

03:06:56.530 --> 03:06:59.930
it's going to happen. You got to do what you

03:06:59.930 --> 03:07:04.870
got to do. Yeah. All right. We're up to over

03:07:04.870 --> 03:07:09.190
three hours. Thanks for listening to Untitled

03:07:09.190 --> 03:07:14.250
Podcast, the geopolitic religion episode. Yeah.

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Like us on Facebook? Wait, we didn't talk about

03:07:17.799 --> 03:07:22.639
something. What? I'm dozing off. Did you guys

03:07:22.639 --> 03:07:24.040
talk about the lady getting shot in the face?

03:07:24.700 --> 03:07:27.200
Yeah, that's what we were debating in the first

03:07:27.200 --> 03:07:33.399
hour with Kyle. What do you think about that?

03:07:35.799 --> 03:07:38.180
Well, do you want my liberal perspective? My

03:07:38.180 --> 03:07:41.180
Republican perspective? Or my moderate perspective?

03:07:41.299 --> 03:07:47.350
Why don't we just get your true opinion? I think

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that they were both wrong. I don't think I would

03:07:49.430 --> 03:07:52.770
end somebody's life over that. No, because she

03:07:52.770 --> 03:07:56.370
wouldn't even have hit him. She was turning the

03:07:56.370 --> 03:07:59.250
wheel. Oh, no, she did hit him. Well, no, but

03:07:59.250 --> 03:08:00.909
she was turning the wheel all the way to the

03:08:00.909 --> 03:08:02.989
right. So, first and foremost, she should have

03:08:02.989 --> 03:08:04.510
stopped. She shouldn't have been turning the

03:08:04.510 --> 03:08:07.329
wheel at all. Well, she was fleeing. She wasn't

03:08:07.329 --> 03:08:10.389
trying to run over an officer. Well, I mean,

03:08:10.409 --> 03:08:13.309
she did, though. So he can't see the wheels.

03:08:13.430 --> 03:08:15.409
He doesn't know what she's doing. He just knows

03:08:15.409 --> 03:08:20.489
that she's driving at him. But she didn't injure

03:08:20.489 --> 03:08:23.989
him. Well, you don't know that. He got hit by

03:08:23.989 --> 03:08:26.790
a car. He didn't get hit, though. He probably

03:08:26.790 --> 03:08:29.530
got hit in the arm with a mirror or something.

03:08:30.569 --> 03:08:32.409
No, he actually got pushed. But she was in a

03:08:32.409 --> 03:08:36.909
parked position. Yeah. So the most that she could

03:08:36.909 --> 03:08:38.850
have been going was like five miles an hour.

03:08:39.049 --> 03:08:41.750
Taking off from a parked position. I've run from

03:08:41.750 --> 03:08:45.610
the police. And I'm glad they didn't shoot me.

03:08:46.049 --> 03:08:48.469
Right? I don't think somebody's life deserves

03:08:48.469 --> 03:08:50.850
to end because they ran from the police. Yeah.

03:08:51.190 --> 03:08:56.409
You know? So, yeah, I think that wasn't good.

03:08:56.889 --> 03:08:59.409
That was fucked up. Yeah. It's the modern day

03:08:59.409 --> 03:09:04.629
SS. No, it's not. It really is. They're enforcing

03:09:04.629 --> 03:09:11.829
the law. Until they murder people. That, you

03:09:11.829 --> 03:09:15.870
know, are just trying to flee. Yeah, just trying

03:09:15.870 --> 03:09:19.750
to flee. Yeah, we can live on that. All right.

03:09:19.850 --> 03:09:25.229
I'm good with it. Thanks for listening. Email

03:09:25.229 --> 03:09:30.489
us, untitledpodcast73 at gmail .com. And as always,

03:09:30.709 --> 03:09:34.329
be kind to yourselves. And each other. We out.

03:09:34.889 --> 03:09:40.610
Fuck off. for all we know robots have souls we

03:09:40.610 --> 03:09:42.809
just don't know if they do or don't how do you

03:09:42.809 --> 03:09:50.260
know have you ever been a cyborg or a robot You

03:09:50.260 --> 03:09:52.280
think we were the first ones to inhabit this

03:09:52.280 --> 03:09:57.940
planet? Fuck no. No, no, we are jumping down

03:09:57.940 --> 03:10:01.379
this fucking rabbit hole. Yes, we are. There's

03:10:01.379 --> 03:10:03.799
people out there with some really dumb thoughts.

03:10:05.299 --> 03:10:08.600
Extended episode. Where the fuck did the skirmish

03:10:08.600 --> 03:10:11.120
come from? Where the fuck did Stonehenge come

03:10:11.120 --> 03:10:12.579
from? You're telling me that they didn't die

03:10:12.579 --> 03:10:15.860
and become ghosts? Oh, they're killing already

03:10:15.860 --> 03:10:18.840
born babies and sell them to the Chinese. Alien

03:10:18.840 --> 03:10:24.459
races. somewhere in China, in some base, there

03:10:24.459 --> 03:10:27.420
are super soldiers that are at least 9 or 10

03:10:27.420 --> 03:10:30.959
feet tall. On top of a soft phone. They have

03:10:30.959 --> 03:10:34.479
dread and super soldiers. Then they are extraterrestrials.

03:10:34.479 --> 03:10:39.719
They are aliens. I do not negotiate with terror.

03:10:39.899 --> 03:11:05.250
I decide. eyes while holding their pulse feel

03:11:05.250 --> 03:11:08.770
them die of this virus you feel bump bump bump

03:11:08.770 --> 03:11:12.190
beep nothing they're fucking gone i've seen it

03:11:12.190 --> 03:11:15.569
happen i think that the government has taken

03:11:15.569 --> 03:11:21.690
it to the next level with the birds they know

03:11:21.690 --> 03:11:24.010
what birds are going to cross paths with you

03:11:24.010 --> 03:11:26.250
that you are going to be able to raise and they

03:11:26.250 --> 03:11:28.430
are going to make them so fucking real they're

03:11:28.430 --> 03:11:30.450
going to sink money into them because they know

03:11:30.450 --> 03:11:42.020
that if you put that motherfucker in Which, by

03:11:42.020 --> 03:11:48.100
the way, big brother, is the overlord kid. We're

03:11:48.100 --> 03:12:23.739
only living in the third dimension! An actual

03:12:23.739 --> 03:12:25.520
Nazi collaborator, okay?