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robots have souls. We just don't know if they
do or don't. How do you know? Have you ever been
a cyborg or a robot? You think we were the first
ones to inhabit this planet? Fuck no. No, we
are jumping down this fucking rabbit hole. Yes,
we are. There's people out there with some really
dumb thoughts. Extended episode. Where the fuck
did the spearmen come from? Where the fuck did
Stonehenge come from? You're telling me that
they didn't die and become ghosts? They're killing
already born babies and sell them to the Chinese.
Aliens exist. Somewhere in China. some days what
the fuck there are super soldiers that are at
least nine or ten feet tall super soldiers then
they are extraterrestrials they are aliens to
Untitled Podcast. I've been sick for like the
last five weeks. And you could have fucking told
me that. I would have worn an N95. I have a pregnant,
immunocompromised fiancé at home. You drop that
on me now? No. By the way, AliMac's back. I was
gone for a fucking long time. Here with Tyler
and AliMac. When did you fucking start this new
shit? Kyle Franklin. Like this week? This week.
Calling in. Episode 129. You could have fucking
played the Twenty One Pilots version, but that's
not a good one. The Twenty One Pilots version
sucks. No one does it, bro. It's fucking sick.
It sucks. I'm playing Seven Nation Army, Kyle's
favorite song. Did he just drop out? Yeah, are
you still with us? Alright. Wrap it up. Technical
difficulties off the front. Yeah, I remember
why I left. I remember why I left. Did he just
pass out drunk? We couldn't hear you over Seven
Nation Army, actually, yeah. No, I went to go
take a piss. I said I was going to take a piss.
Yeah, well, we couldn't hear you over the Seven
Nation Army. But then I missed something. I had
a morgue story I was going to tell, and I forgot
it. Well, we're on the air now, so... Are we
on air? Oh, yeah, yeah. Why is there, like, fucking,
like... Wait, hang on. We're recording? Yes.
We obviously had the intro. Let's give a clap.
Hang on. What was this one going in? Seven Nation
Army. Jesus. And then I said that he should have...
In case he busts out the fucking Jack White and
I'm not even here, I'm off that picture for this.
And then I said something that would definitely
have pissed you off, but I more said to piss
Tyler off was that he should have played the...
He should have played the 21 Pilots version of
Seven Nation Army. Yeah, right. Now you're pissing
me off. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You
are pissing me off. I mean, Jack White was loving
it. Jack White's a god. I'm not going to dispute
that. I fucking love the guy, too. He kind of
looks like Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka, but he's
pretty cool. You're not wrong. He wears a damn
fedora. I just hate his stupid fedora. Yeah,
it's honestly the... literally casey hates jack
white because he wears a fedora yeah it's more
than it's more than just the fedora i kind of
feel casey on this because like i i respect jack
white he's a fucking legend and i love his music
but like more and respect him he's a fucking
rock god he's such a fucking weirdo bro you remember
in that movie it's just a punchable face that's
it god The movie was like, it might get loud,
but Jack White, and he was like, oh. That smells
like hell. He played a record, and he was like,
this is my favorite song ever. And it was just
a guy slapping his knee. Holy shit, I feel like
I'm dying. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. That smells
like really bad B .O. Yes. Like Chick B .O. Oh,
I hate Chick B .O. What the fuck is a shit ton
of music reaction videos? Allergic reaction?
No, music reaction. You think chick sweat smells
worse than guy sweat sometimes? I think girls
don't dream. What? They don't dream? They don't
dream? No, like, I legitimately don't think girls
sleep. Like, I think they lie about it. No, they
definitely do. No, they don't sleep. No, so they
don't sleep. They basically just go dormant,
right? They close their eyes. They don't dream.
They don't do any of that. They plug themselves
into the outlet. They just lie about it. Nah,
I mean, because, like... Do you know, I'd be
behind you on that until my girl started taking
Unisom with the pregnancy. And that shit, like,
gives you the weirdest dreams. And she would
wake up, like, in hysterics thinking, like, our
cat died. No, but she's making that up. No. No,
if it was about me, I would have thought she
was making it up. But it's, like, about our cat.
And I'm like, all right. She'd be like, your
cat, our cat, like, jumped off of the windowsill
and broke its. It broke its back on your fucking
window. She's making that up. Girls don't sleep.
They don't dream. Do they poop? That's a new
one that I've never heard before. What's the
motivation for that? Girls do poop, but they
don't sleep. They don't dream. I got to back
Tyler on that question. What possessed this thought
process from you here? There's got to be some
deeply rooted reason behind this. Some dream
that like... I'm telling you right now. I'm telling
you, girls, they lie about a lot of things, right?
And have you ever watched like a dog sleep? I
mean... I never had a dog. Yeah. Yeah, I guess
I've seen a dog sleep. Dogs don't sleep hard.
You could wake them up... Like a cat. ...with
the snap of your fingers, right? That's what
girls are doing. They're laying there with their
eyes closed and they're saying... He's probably
fucking somebody else. Fuck him. And then that's
when they wake up and start beating you up and
saying, I just had a dream and you were fucking
my sister. You know, they don't dream or sleep.
They sit there, they close their eyes, and they
contrive more issues that they can fucking start
fights with you with. Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, I just
got a question. How many times have you actually
cheated on any of your significant others? Jesus
Christ. He laughs because the number is greater
than zero. That was a greater than zero kind
of laugh right there. That's a hard hitter. What
do you mean? I don't know. It's just the way
you laughed. I feel like that should have been
an immediate denial. But to laugh, you're buying
yourself time to think of an answer. Hang on.
Define significant other. Person that you were
in an active relationship with. Oh, Jesus. Fuck,
I can't even count it. Oh my God. That's rough.
That's rough. It's called, what's it called?
Non -consensual extramarital affairs or something
like that. I believe it's called cheating. I
think it's called cheating. We turned Casey up.
I can't even fucking hear him. No, it's called
non -consensual non -monogamy. What the? Non
-consensual what? Non -monogamy. Non -monogamy.
Turn your fucking vocals up. We can hear him
fine. Yeah, I think that's on your end. I can't
hear him. I mean, I'm sure it's on our end to
fix it. No, it literally sounds like he has his
mic 20 feet away from him. It's literally on
his mouth. It might be coming from the other
mic, actually. Ah, great. You know what? Did
you try this, Tyler? I did. I like him. yeah
fuck you tyler you're gonna attack the fuck out
of me all right i just attack everyone everyone
catches strays sometimes let's talk about the
lady that wasn't anywhere near running over the
fucking ice agent she got murdered how about
that I mean, I did want to talk about this. Simmer
it down. We're not going to talk about it. Oh,
the ice thing? I mean, she definitely hit the
guy, and he shot her. I would shoot her, too.
No, she didn't. No, she didn't. No, she didn't.
So she was taking a three -point turn. So hold
up. Hold up. Hold up. She turned the wheel. I
intentionally kept myself in the dark. That is
a wild take, Casey. This lady, I guess. I haven't
heard this story intentionally. I knew some shit
happened. Everybody's talking about it. I intentionally
kept myself in the dark because I wanted you
guys to tell me and I wanted to see how much
chaos it caused. No, so this lesbian lady, she
was trying to help her neighbor out because Ice
was trying to get... Just so I'm making sure
I heard you correctly. She said she's lesbian?
Yeah. Okay, so that's got to be pertinent somehow.
And so... No, it's just background. Ice was trying
to like... arrest her neighbor or something.
She came and I guess was like arguing with them.
She blocked them off with their car and then
the ICE agents came. She didn't assault them.
She blocked them with the car and then the cops
said, okay, get out of the car and then she just
fucking floored it and there was a cop in front
of it. So he's on foot? Yeah, he's on foot. What's
she blocking him from? Blocking the street is
an assault. No, no, no. That wasn't the assault.
The fucking part where she literally, the ICE
agents got out of their truck because she blocked
the whole street. All right. And they went over
to it and they're like, hey, turn off the car.
And so she tried to flee. No, she tried to flee
and then she hit the fucking cop, like clipped
him. So then he shot her in the head. But she
turned the wheel all the way to the right at
the end. And she still hit the guy. And people
are freezing the picture where the wheels are
straight and with an arrow pointing straight.
But they don't see she turned the wheel all the
way right to get around. And the ICE agent stepped
out in front of her. No, he didn't. He was already
in front of the fucking car. Alright, so what
speed was this car going? We're all in agreement
that he got hit. She was stopped. Well, no, you're
telling me that he stopped. You're saying that
he hit her. Yeah, she hit her. No, she was stopped,
and then she does a three -point turn, so she
backs up. She was not doing a three -point turn.
She was. That was the worst take out of all of
these. She turned left, backed up. She's not
doing a three -point turn. She turned left, backed
up, and then she went forward and turned all
the way right. That's a three -point turn. That's
not a... She was not doing a three -point turn
in any way, shape, or form, Casey. I mean, regardless
of the circumstances. That's what a three -point
fucking turn is. That is such a little... fucking
take on this. She was not doing a three -point
turn. I'm saying her goal was to get out of the
street. I want to hear Kyle's take here. I feel
like we've heard both here. Let me ask you guys
a question. Do you guys believe that Paul McCartney
died in 1960? I don't see how that's related.
I think he's dead, actually. I'm happy John Lennon
got shot in the face like the piece of shit he
was. Objection unrelated. So here's the thing.
I feel like people... The girl was doing a three
-point turn. She was doing a three -point turn,
and this guy that probably got bullied in high
school with a mask on decided, I'm going to step
in front of the car. Obviously, she put it in
drive. She's a lady. Lady brain. Ladies can't
drive, right? She guns it. Guy's in front of
the car. He's going to get hit. You shouldn't
stand in front of a car when there was a lady
fucking driving, right? Even if he didn't move,
it would have barely touched him. Oh, I got bullied
my whole life. Hey, I have a better fucking,
I have a better idea. If you're in a fucking
car and guys with fucking guns and badges tell
you to stop the car and you don't. But you can
see from the video when she turned the wheel
all the way this way, it wouldn't have hit him.
So can I give my completely uneducated take on
this without seeing the video? Yeah. I mean,
I think that people just try to make this into
like, they try to somehow relate this shit to
politics. When at the end of the day, I'm sure
people are trying to make this chick the next
George Floyd. At the end of the day, it sounds
like the cop definitely overreacted. But at the
same time, though, that's like a fucking... You're
in a knee -jerk reaction situation as the cop.
I'm certainly not defending the guy. He made
the wrong call. But, like, I doubt he wanted
to fucking put her down. Like, I don't think
it's that fucking deep. People try to. I know.
That's why I said fuck earlier. Oh, when did
that happen? I didn't see it. A minute or two
ago. No, he absolutely did. Dude, he reached
for the gun before she even put it in drive.
No, he heard the rev of the engine. That's why
he started pulling. She backed up. So that was
literally a three -point turn. If that's not
a three -point turn, I don't know what it is.
I don't think there's a problem with him pulling
a gun. Casey, first off, Casey, if I hear you
say three -point turn, one more time. Well, Tyler's
telling me that's not a three -point turn. What
the fuck's a three -point turn, then? Alright,
it doesn't matter what type of turn this bitch
was taking. Regardless, he's telling her to fucking
not move. And she starts moving. But it doesn't
matter. He's not a law enforcement officer. Yes,
he is. He's technically a law enforcement officer.
He's a fucking hand of Homeland Security. That's
not the same fucking thing. I don't know what
the fucking rules for DHS is. Alright, so the
only piece of information that managed to slip
through the cracks because I was trying to keep
myself in the dark on this was apparently the
guy that shot her had some history where he tried
to stop somebody in a vehicle and he somehow
ended up getting dragged by a car for like 30
yards and ended up getting himself fucked up.
So obviously, that supports my theory of... This
guy got bullied his entire life. I think he got
bullied that one time he got dragged by a car
and he had a trauma response. He has a little
fucking dick and he's trying to fucking make
himself seem fake. He was probably trying to
pull somebody out of the car while they were
trying to get away. He could have just let go.
I don't think pulling the gun in that instance
is the wrong idea. Let me summarize this real
quick. This girl said, you know what? I can't
win this argument. Let me get away. Buddy with
the little dick said, Not on my watch, bitch.
And then shot her. He could have let her fucking
just drive away. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
She was fleeing. She wasn't trying to run over
the cops. She was fleeing. I'm not on Casey's
side. I'm not on Tyler's side. Fuck both of you.
I'm saying this fucking woman, no matter how
deranged she is, got fucking killed because...
buddy with a little dick said, I got a gun and
you're not going to prove me wrong because I
got proved wrong my whole life. Well, she's just
a normal person. She's just a normal person.
I mean, what would you do if your friend was
getting kidnapped, arrested, taken away? I mean...
I just feel like people try to make shit bigger
than I'm paying attention. I think it's like
watching the game. It's like you, the thing that
it's funny. Cause I kind of, I hate to relate
this to something like sports, but like you see
these guys that are like, and we're not, we're,
I know we're not talking about the top of their
league with these ice guys. This guy probably
got hired because he saw an ad on fucking YouTube
for it. Some fucking neck beard, but like, exactly,
exactly. But they still give them guns and they
do this shit. So you can't expect them to do
a great job. But at the end of the day, like
I, It really comes down to whether or not there's
malicious intent, and if I had to guess, I'm
taking a shot in the dark here. A shot in the
dark. Obviously, you need more information to
know that, but I really doubt this guy wanted
to blow her fucking head off. He probably just
made a really fucking bad judgment call. Well,
yeah, she's in a fucking car, Casey. What else
is he going to hit? Allie Mack, he's been bullied
his entire life. Where's the evidence of that?
Because that seems like speculation. Did you
bully this guy? Is it your fault? Kyle fucking
bullied this guy. I'm in the fucking middle here.
A woman's lost her fucking life over a guy that
has a little dick that got bullied his whole
life. Yeah, so you're backing my argument up
here. How would you know this guy got bullied
for a little dick if you didn't see his dick
and then bully him for it? No, but she was coming
from a parked position. Fucking crickets from
Kyle on that one. The car was here. I'm sorry.
I had a mute because I was laughing of Casey
talking about a three -footer. Even if the car
was coming at him, why couldn't he just step
out of the way? Casey goes, she was doing a three
-point turn. That is a bad taking. She was trying
to get into a better position to get yanked out
of the car. She was trying to make the officer's
job easy. When you fucking back up one way and
then you turn the other way and go forward. She
was doing a three -point turn. That is the most
unhinged part of this. I think the biggest problem
here is that she... This bitch, was she using
a backer? No, she did not have a backer. She
did have a backer. Yeah, never mind. It's on
her. She wasn't using a fucking truck. She was
not using a spotter. That's completely on her.
You need a fucking backer. If she had hit something
backing up like that, Mohawk would have fired.
They wouldn't have fired her. They would have
pulled her driver. The best part was she got
shot without a spotter and Mohawk still would
have fired her. They would have just went to
the funeral and been like, hey, sorry. They would
have said, you got shot because you weren't using
a spotter, you're fired. No, they would have
thrown her ass in dispatch. They fucking put
her corpse in the fucking boat. They're like,
nobody else is applying. Hang on. You guys want
to talk about the fact that COVID was a giant
ruse to create the COVID lockdown so they could
kill all the birds and replace them with bird
-like drones. I'm just waiting for this to tie
in with McCartney because I know it's connected
somehow. There's no comment on what I just said.
So, COVID? I mean, wait. Actually, me and Kyle
might be in agreement because this was a take
I had in the dark episode. Hang on, hang on.
Let me slow it down. Let me slow it down. Okay.
They used the flu season, right? Yeah. Created
a test that would make the flu show up as quote
-unquote COVID, right? So that everybody gets
COVID. Now we got to lock it down because we
got a fucking pandemic going on, right? While
we're in lockdown. The government kills all the
birds and switches them out with bird -like drones.
So, Kyle, you're going to fucking hate. Well,
you're either going to hate or you're going to
love what I have to say here. But what you just
said, like practically verbatim, was my take
the first episode we ever had on Untitled. The
one that we did in my basement. Yeah, but that
was before COVID happened. No, no, it wasn't.
Yeah, it was. Dude, I didn't live in that. I
didn't move out of my parents' house until COVID
hit. I moved in the middle of COVID, yeah. i
don't remember if we play back that dark tape
you'll hear me bitching and well not bitching
and moaning but you'll hear me screaming about
how it i mean my i mean my theory from the virus
in the intro remember yes but but yeah because
i think there's a little bit more than making
it just pop on a test saying that it's COVID.
They did make a flu that's worse than the flu
that we had. That's why it whacked everybody.
They're like, we'll get rid of a bunch of the
old people and then we'll also... So the difference
between you and my opinion here, Kyle, is that...
I thought that the birds were already fake as
fuck, but they needed to get a new generation
of those fuckers in there that were somehow solar
-powered or self -sufficient, and they needed
to... So what I was thinking was, they already
have fake birds out, right? But... Well, you
said they killed all of them. So they already
have fake birds out, but not all birds are fake,
right? And then they realized how productive
having fake birds out was. So they said, well,
we need to make all the birds fake. And then
they had to create a moment where everybody would
be stuck in their house, right? I got a different
take on why COVID happened. I think that the
big business created COVID so they could destroy
all the small businesses. No, the Chinese created
COVID. Yeah, I mean, that's a good one, too.
I can't argue with that one, either. Because
it did destroy most small businesses. A lot of
the 1 % had a lot to benefit from with COVID.
It whacked a lot of small businesses. It made
Amazon the biggest thing that's ever happened.
Now that COVID's not even a thing. What the fuck
is Casey doing? He's just chilling. Just hear
him keep breathing into the mic. Oh, no, that's
me. No, that's Tyler. All right. Fucking guy
gets married for one month, he's drinking beers
and fucking vaping all of a sudden. Oh, you're
drinking? You're drinking, Tyler? I'm drinking
a single beer. Yeah, he had one beer, and then
he had a single. He took one hit of this vape,
and he acted like it was the only one, but he
kind of liked the hit, so now he's over here
Frenching. I'll tell you right now. I'll tell
you right now. You know, me and Casey jamming
in the studio aside, obviously, because I'm going
to drink in the studio. Uh, next time I drink
with any of you guys, it's going to be me and
Allie Mac downing 50 beers. So you're, you're
not going to like this, but, uh, I don't even
tell me you're sober again. I'm not, no, I'm
not sober. I got a fucking beer in my hand right
now, but I, I, I've really, I've cut back a shitload
and my alcohol tolerance is like, I mean, I'll
still do it. I'll get fucking trashed. I'll make
a fool of myself. I don't care if your alcohol
tolerance is good or not. We're doing 40 each.
All right. I'll need to fucking do a double dose
of my Adderall first. Maybe that'll keep me going.
I need a fucking stimmy. Listen, do an Adderall.
Save one for me. Crush it up. I'll snort it.
We'll get after it. All right. I'm not going
to confirm or deny if I'll do that because that
would be me distributing a schedule to medication.
And I'm not going to do that. I'm very sorry.
We were just joking around. We're talking in
Minecraft. It's in Minecraft. That's not anything
we'd actually... We're playing GTA 5. We're playing
Schedule 1. Bro, how good of a game is that?
Schedule 1 was a fun game. I haven't played it...
in like a few months. I haven't played it in
the update, so that was a very good game. We
got really autistic in Minecraft. Yeah, the world
in Minecraft has gotten out of hand. Do you guys
believe that the moon maybe is a hologram? Nope.
No. I think that the moon is a fractured planet.
All I know is we didn't land on it. Okay, I mean,
like, at the end of the day... Pretty much everything
is a fractured planet. Most planets spun off
because two much bigger things whacked into one
another, broke apart. Then over millions of years,
gravity makes it a sphere that also orbits something
that's bigger. Well, it's because our Earth is,
our moon is like, like freakishly large compared
to most. Yeah, but you know what? Can I, can
I like, can I? But it's not a one in a million.
Can I say something to you guys? About the Paul
McCartney thing? No, honestly, I'm glad you're
pulling me away from this because I'm just going
to go on a fucking space rant for an hour and
a half. We're going to circle back to that, though,
Tyler, you son of a bitch. No, but you guys shot
me down really fucking quick, right? There is
a Beatles line. Like, I don't remember what song
it is, but... What is it? Who's the retard that
got shot and he played Imagine? I fucking hate
that. Yeah, John Lennon. There's literally a
fucking lyric of him saying, Paul is dead. He
sings in a song, Paul is dead. Yeah, he does.
Yeah, but I also think that the Beatles fucking
suck and I hate them. Yeah, but tell me how there's
a car crash that is the same car as Paul McCarty
drives. um that was a fatal car crash recorded
as a fatal car crash but we don't know who was
the driver or whatever that died i need to see
their toes that's that's how yeah because they
were like it was probably It was probably cheaper
to just replace him and tell everybody that he's
actually Paul McCartney. You're not beating the
accusations that you're not a big guy. It was
in the Beatles' heyday. I have a foot job before,
too. Yeah, exactly. It was in the heyday of the
Beatles. It was in the heyday of the Beatles.
And they were like, they literally were like,
well, we can't. It was obviously, I'm not going
to say who the race was. Yeah, they're like,
we're going to break up if we don't do this.
No, no, but hang on, hang on. I'm not going to
say who the race of the people were that said
that they should do this, but it was the Jews.
Sounds like a religion. They said they had to
keep the band together, so they literally needed
a replacement for Paul McCartney. Oh, my God.
You see, now when Kyle comes on the podcast and
he starts throwing shit out like that, naming
our previous employer, this is why, I know you're
like, oh, I got nothing to lose. I put my two
weeks in at my job. This is why I kind of stress
about like, oh yeah, let's bring a ton of attention.
Let's actually like make this podcast a thing.
Maybe fucking not. Maybe fucking not. Dan got
fucking 400 ,000 hits on his post. We'll get
buried. I'll lose my fucking livelihood. It's
not that serious. Nobody's got more to lose than
me if this podcast blows the fuck up. I mean,
I'd lose my fiance most likely because I'm bringing
no income in. I've said so many heinous things
on this podcast. You're bringing income in from
the fucking podcast. Well, yeah. I mean, you'd
catch charges. I wouldn't catch charges. I'd
just get fired and probably lose my wife. If
this thing blows up. I become the criminal. I'm
your scapegoat. I'd probably just get charged
with hate crimes. Actually, we might be able
to pin it all on you, Kyle. I'm fucked, bro.
If you guys blow up, I'm fucked. I try to watch
what I say. I mean, here's the thing, Kyle. I
had to learn this in the early days of the podcast
when I was getting a little too rowdy. I limit
myself to like... three to five beers on the
podcast because if I drink any more, I'm going
to say some shit that I shouldn't. That's kind
of where I'm at. But I feel like you haven't
been on the podcast with less than in your system
up to this point. Not even being a douchebag.
I just think that that's the truth. At least
any episodes we've both been on. So I was looking
at the statistics for the podcast the other day.
And we were getting like 500 views a month. And
I'm like, where are all these fucking views coming
from? And then I see we have the NHH episode.
uh which is the kanye song just got 1600 views
for some reason christ and it's just fucking
it's blowing up our ad revenue kind of feels
illegal but yeah here's the thing is the second
spotify hears that that's that's what we're collecting
ad revenue on everything gets demonetized everything
gets demonetized the wrong person hears about
that it's like wow we so if we set up like a
bunch of bots that just like hit play on our
episode like a bunch of times a day That's called
fraud. No, bro, they did Superman 3. Yeah, but
here's the thing. That's called fraud. jesus
fucking christ one youtuber with like a hundred
we get one youtuber with a hundred thousand subscribers
that hears about this podcast we're fucking buried
we're done we're done one five minute video that's
all it takes and we're all going to 400 000 hits
because he posted something about how canada
would should join the u .s and he made like a
canadian flag into american flag and all the
fucking canadians came out and tried to fucking
threaten him Yeah, the post gets nothing but
hate. And what's fucking Casey's take? Hey, you
should tell them about our podcast. It'd be funny
because they listen to the episode. They see
that we're like satire. No, Casey, that is the
most ridiculously optimistic outlook on that.
They're already hate charged. Exactly. You're
just giving them a spot. That's what gets hits
these days. Yeah, that's what fucking gets...
People fucking arrested, Casey! We're gonna get
fucking whacked, alright? We're gonna get fucking
whacked. We said too many things about the Jews.
We're done. No, I never said shit about them,
alright? I'm absolving myself. I never fucking
said a fucking word about that. If anything,
actually, I have came to their defense. I have
a problem with what people depict as the Jews.
To what what I'm sure this is gonna be this is
not gonna be good, but let's just like no But
I'm not saying I think the issue is I don't think
all Jews are bad But I think people use the label
the Jews And maybe they're not even Jewish, but
yeah, I mean people depict them as well. It's
not all Jews. It's fascist conservative, you
know. Oh my fucking God, Casey. Not everybody
you dislike is a fascist. Well, they're far right.
Not every person you dislike is a fascist, Casey.
It's fucking annoying. Dude, every fucking day
in the fucking group chat, you're talking about
fascist this and fascist that. Casey, there's
not been fucking fascism since the fucking World
War II. Netanyahu is a far right extremist. He's
not a fascist, you fucking retard. He's not a
fascist, but he's a far right conservative. Talk
about how Queen Elizabeth I was a man. He's acting
like a fascist. What? What? So you guys don't
want to talk about how Queen Elizabeth I was
a man? Who was Queen Elizabeth II? Like from
the 1600s? No, Queen Elizabeth I, she died. of
the bubonic plague as a child, but she was actually
a man. Kyle, I gotta say, you have a talent that
I never thought would be surpassed by Tyler.
Because Tyler had the talent where we'd be talking
about one thing, and then somebody would just
say some shit that had like... absolutely nothing
to do with it. And I thought that was like a
Tyler thing. You might actually have him beat
in that category. We're talking about some chicken
shot in a car and you're like, yo, Paul McCartney
got fucking whacked in the 60s. Now we're talking
about the Jews and then all of a sudden, yo,
Queen Elizabeth, that bitch was a dude. All right,
I'm just saying. I will tell you how Shane used
to describe me to everybody and be like, this
is Kyle. A plethora of useless knowledge. I think
that's kind of all of us. You're just... It's
just, I feel like... Hang on, hang on. Do you
guys want to know about how maybe the government
testing space beams started those wildfires?
Oh, we already went over this one. Yeah, we've
been on that. That's cool. That shit we've been
on. We've been on that shit. Yeah, but we're
all... Listen, I've been taking notes. Allie
Mack, did you keep yourself in the dark about
the other news story this week? I haven't been
able to get on a podcast with a lot of you guys
in a while. I've been taking notes. What the
fuck is happening? That's my fucking boy, the
fucking French Drain. Let's go, Sub Pop! Yeah,
Sub Pop! That's our favorite fucking co -host.
Can you guys not hear me? No, we can hear you.
Yeah, but I said I've been taking notes for a
few months because I haven't been able to get
the whole podcast. Every time I do a podcast,
it's just me and Casey. I've been taking notes
about things I want to talk about. You guys let
me know if you want to talk about it. I do, but
I just want to circle back to what Casey said
first. I feel like we always open up the first
half of the epi is always politics. Hang on.
Can we all agree that Princess Diana was killed
by the royal family? I agree with that one. I
don't give a fuck about that bitch. I don't know
who she is. Excuse me? Excuse me? She was hot.
I mean, she probably was hot. If you showed me
a Google image, I'd probably be like, oh yeah,
I've seen that before. No, no. Hot is not the...
She was a smoke show. The lion does not concern
himself with shit that happened before 1998.
Jesus Christ. Yeah, but do we agree that the
government released HIV to kill out the gays
and the blacks? I think that's just like a well
-known fact. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Because
the crack epidemic didn't work? I mean, they
just, it's kind of just, you could, you could
rattle off a million things that they keep doing
where it's either it didn't work or it didn't
work well enough. And it's like, all right, well,
crack didn't get it done. Let's get HIV in there.
Fuck. That's not really doing as much damage
as we wanted to. All right. Let's try fucking
MK ultra. That's not working. We can't control
people's minds the way we wanted to, at least
not good enough. All right. Well, nah, fuck it.
Let's just make COVID. Let's just make COVID.
Let's give ourselves more money and kill a bunch
of old people. Like there's a million fucking
things. they do now we're at a day and age where
it's like all right now let's just make it so
all the politicians can lie and because everybody
does it it's the norm and now we can just say
shit and nobody knows what's true and let's introduce
ai let's make all the fucking graphics cards
in the world go to fucking ai places these fucking
massive places so that all this shit gets so
fucking convincing that no no no no i got shit
to say here I lost my steam. You derailed me,
Kyle. Tell me about Queen Elizabeth. I've been
doing a lot of research on AI. I'm cracking another
beer. This shit's getting me tight now. We all
believe that the U .S. government killed MLK
Jr., right? That's easy. You just shot... No,
no, it wasn't him. I did it to myself. The FBI.
There's a distinction to be made. The FBI whacked
MLK. The FBI did it. Shut the fuck up. Here's
one I wrote down that I was probably bombed off
my ass for. You still are. No surprise. No judgment,
but no surprise. Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany
escaped to Antarctica, established a military
base, and are still operating there. No, we're
in fucking Agartha, dude. They went under the
Earth. They're in the middle of the Earth, man.
That's what actually happened. This is where
my notes take a dark turn. At some point, I believe
Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler escaped Antarctica.
Now they just live there. No, they live in the
center of the earth now. Kyle, the lyrics that
you send me make me concerned for your well -being.
God, he's been playing his fucking balls off
lately. Are you okay there, Kyle? Hang on, you
want a good one? You guys want another good one?
It sounds like you're reading out of a fucking
joke book. I have no context. to this. It's one
line. I have no context. Some of these notes
I put little indents in and whatever. I don't
know where I came up with this. Denver's airport
is the headquarters of the Illuminati. That's
straight up confirmed. That's already confirmed.
Okay. Genuinely. All right, hang on, hang on,
hang on, because we went from Nazis to Antarctica
to Denver. My next one is Hitler survived World
War II and went to fucking Antarctica. Are these
just conspiracy theories that you invented? Yeah,
no, I'm pretty sure I got drunk and just fucking
copied conspiracy theories. I'm literally going
through my notes right now. They're watching
hockey. They don't give a fuck, Kyle. No, no.
The Sabres scored a goal, but I think they had
a shorty on a five -minute major. Hang on. My
next note, I mean, the rest of these are gibberish.
I feel like I got to – this sums it up. Oh, no.
He got straight up slashed in the face. There's
like seven more, but the rest of them are gibberish,
but this one really sums it up. After talking
about the Nazis going to Antarctica and Denver
being whatever. It says the Holocaust was never
happened. I don't know where I was. So I'll tell
you where you were. You were on fucking Instagram.
We covered this a little bit, but there is like
a massive amount of shit on social media of Holocaust
deniers. I've seen people go so far as to say
that, like, World War II didn't happen. It's
fucking crazy. People are out of their fucking
minds now. It's just, dude. It's really easy
to get into that fucking hole. Well, it is. The
way that I want to see the world now. Just so
you know, Kyle, so you don't get caught off guard,
Casey again took off without saying a word to
anybody. Oh, he's gone? Yeah, he just fucking
walked upstairs. He's probably ripping another
joint. The way that I always look at things and
the way I try to live my life is what's the funniest
option? And that's the option I tend to choose.
Listen, Tyler, it's what I've been doing for
30 years. The funniest option is normally the
best option. And unfortunately, now in this day
and age, it's usually true. It's kind of fucking
wild. Yeah, the funniest option is the best option.
All I've been doing is the funniest option. It
hasn't done me well. It hasn't done me well.
Well, that's unfortunate. I'm the funny guy,
and then, you know, when I... Oh, Casey went
upstairs to text Dan. That's what he did. He
just fucking popped it. We're watching hockey.
I see him texting Dan after he, while we're recording,
walks upstairs and starts sending firing off
messages to the group chat. Just so you know
how much the podcast means to our fearless leader,
to the listeners out there. Well, hang on. Hang
on. I can take over as a leader. Any kind of
news? There's no news. All news is fake. So what
I wanted to get into here, Kyle, and I know you're
going to want to cut me off here, and I just
ask that you don't do it for a little bit, because
I know you and I both got a lot to talk about
with AI, but I've been reading a lot of books.
Hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm sorry. Wow, that
lasted fucking real long. I already cut you off.
Geez, I didn't even fucking start. I think that
the government... Government. When I say the
government... When I say, hang on, when I say
it, hang on, when I say it. When you add two
N's in it. When I say, when I say the government,
I'm talking about the, like, the whole world,
like, deep state government. The people that
own the whole fucking world. The government.
The government. What the fuck is your accent,
dude? I still have no idea. The fucking government
keeps fucking... Like, your accent is like six
accents combined. The government stole my fucking
dentures and now I can't talk no more. I don't
know how to it's Boston mixed with New York City
Jew mixed with like a weird like New York City
Jew that doesn't have it's own dialect why does
every scummy white kid around here talk like
that hey you ever hear a toy you You go to a
church, you fucking pick up on an accent. Sorry,
synagogue. My apologies. Jesus Christ. You guys
have a here toy? It's pretty crazy over there,
man. I feel like when you hear New York City
Jew, you're thinking that guy from fucking, you're
thinking about Kyle's cousin from South Park.
Yeah, it's a mix of that. Oh, you what? You convict
the bitch? I need you to say shalom for me. Or
mazel tov. Hang on, hang on. I'm going to have
to say with a lot of like that fucking building.
So you said to go to off. I think we can shut
this off. I think we're going to kill. Oh, God.
I drive by that place. It gives me fucking PTSD.
Oh, man. But anyways, I do want to bring this
up. Now, Kyle, please ask. Oh, here we fucking.
I'm trying to talk about this. And you spurred
it. Paul McCartney, bro. He's dead. No, we're
not. We're past Paul McCartney, Casey. Get the
fuck out. Team USA. The government. The government.
The government. The government and the fucking
man, the New World Order, they're trying to use
AI and things like, you know, and this is why
I laugh when Casey and Dan, those two fucking
absolute retards, are using fucking chat GPT
and whatever to, like, prove things. Dude, somebody
has to input that information. Oh, yeah, you're
right. Shut the fuck up, Casey. I said you're
right. They're going to have to change the fucking
information in there. Oh. Did the American Revolution
happen in 1775? No, it happened in 1950. They
could literally do that if all you rely on is
fucking stupid AI. They could do that if they
wanted to. I bet Trump does that. Okay, so Kyle,
I agree with the last thing you said there, but
you're incorrect about how people input it. They
scored another goal, by the way. Oh, Jesus. Nice.
It's not... People aren't inputting it. So the
AI models, for the longest time... Yeah, but
how do you know? Prove it. So, ultimately, what
humans do... Dude, you gotta fucking do some
research. I can't prove it to you. There's people
who did the research. I'm not gonna sit here
with a fucking... Cite my sources. What, you
want MLA format here? I'm on a fucking podcast,
bro. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. You sound like
my fucking English professor at the course I
failed at. No, no, no. Kyle, I haven't fucking
been able to say a word. I've been trying to
talk about this and every time I go, hold on,
hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. The government is out here. Hold
up. The government. The government. No. All right.
Ultimately, here's what's going on. What do humans
do? We program these AIs, right? Yes. Ultimately,
we fucking made AIs. Yes. No, but you literally
just answered my question. Somebody programmed
them. Yes, but you're not letting me finish what
I'm saying, my guy. How can't that programmer
change history? Bruh. How can't they change history?
It ain't about that programmer no more. You got
to let me keep popping off here. Jesus, let me
talk for a minute, bro. Crack open another beer.
Give me 30 seconds here, Kyle. Jesus, fuck. All
right. Here's AI, right? We fucking make this
shit. It's dumb as fucking bricks to start. It's
still pretty fucking dumb as bricks up to this
point. We kind of got a handle on it. The AI
that we're working with right now, it doesn't
matter if we're talking chat GPT, Grok, Gemini,
doesn't fucking matter. All these things are
what we like to call aligned right now. Right
now, at least we think. We're in control as the
humans. We think that these big multi -billion
dollar corporations, they think they're in control.
They might be. They very well might be. But the
thing is, we're reaching in between chat GPT
-3 and chat GPT -4, which is what we're on right
now. There's going to be more of them coming
down the line. They're continuously working on
these models. Chat GPT -5 and probably 6 do exist
in a vacuum. They keep that in -house. They don't
give that thing access to the entire internet.
Well, they do give it access to the internet.
They don't give it outside access. It can't send
anything out. It's transmit only. Kyle, just
let me fucking talk. AI just turns into Nazis,
man, every time. Who creates the internet? Nazis.
Who posts to the internet? Bro, you're thinking
really optimistic. We don't. We don't. We don't.
We do not control the internet. We don't. All
right, Ally Mac, I'm going to give you two theories.
Bro, and I will tell you exactly how both of
them are wrong. I can't wait to tell you exactly
how both of them are wrong. I don't even need
to hear what they fucking are yet. I'm not going
to. I'm going to choose option C, which is what's
going to happen. I won't, but okay. First theory
is the one I'm talking about right now. It's
the fact that we are going to use this AI to
rewrite history. and shape humanity the way that
we want. We don't have control over it that way.
Okay. Okay, Ali Mack. So you obviously disagree
with that. Second theory. You ready? Yep. Is
that humanity was put down here by obviously
extraterrestrial forces, right? Shut up. Shut
the fuck up. We get put down here to do whatever
we have to do to eventually, right, eventually
come together to create quote -unquote AI, which
is basically our higher power that we now harness
so that they can now take over the world. Now,
I completely disagree with that one, too, because
we don't. So, no, I won't go so far as to say
I completely disagree with it. Hang on, hang
on. Maybe I didn't quite work that one. Hang
on one more time. I'm going to fucking hang myself.
Jesus fucking Christ. Listen, because I don't
think I worded it right. What Tyler believes
is God, I believe is AI. That's fucking horseshit.
No, no. Yeah, that's out. so the only thing the
only part of what you just said that i agree
with is the fact that life on earth is most likely
extraterrestrial that i can honestly get behind
ai what is it's the antichrist oh it's an organic
creation that we're making that's going to be
the downfall of us No the organics created it
Jesus Jesus oh my fucking god does this unit
have a soul Can I can I can I be real with you
for a minute I have not even been able to begin
the point I'm trying to make. It's not even related
to this. Just let Allie back go off. Jesus. I
just want to talk for a minute, Kyle. Fuck. No,
hang on. So I'm going to hang myself. Just like
Kyle fucking Jeffrey Epstein did. Kyle Epstein
did it. Oh my God. Fucking okay. Here's the deal
with AI. We're at a crossroads and we got to
fucking start talking about this. And this isn't
just a me thing. This isn't even a conspiracy
theory at this point. We're at the. point right
now with ai where ai is helping the next model
of ai to be made there's certain ones like like
gemini and grok and um what's the fucking other
one there not not chat gpt there's the one other
major one in the u .s i can't remember the name
of it but regardless we're now at the point where
these ais are actually helping build i shouldn't
say these ais the the whatever the previous model
of AI is, is building the next AI. They're help,
they're helping build it. And we're now seeing
across the board, there's certain ones that are
a little bit better than others. Like Gemini
has shown that it doesn't have in, in, in case
studies, both internal and external with people.
Like you could run this test on your own if you
wanted to, if you wanted to waste like a fucking
week of your life. But, um, if you start asking
these AIs questions and you start essentially
kind of like feeding it information about how
it may or may not be getting shut down or you're
going to stop using it or stuff like that on
a, on a larger level, it's, it's not, it's not
something you can really do in house rather is
you can't do it. You or me, because that AI exists,
that's the one that's on your phone. But like
for these ones that you're asking, we call them
AI agents that work within a company. It's a
server set up that you have within a business.
And that's the vacuum that we're using right
now. But it's rapidly approaching. The AI has
an overarching build like the Gemini and Grok
that we have now. They have a self -preservation
aspect to it. Humans can't figure it out because
ultimately we thought we had a handle on them.
We did have a handle on them. We're at the crossroads
right now. Right now. All of them. Grok, Chachi,
Chachi, BD, Gemini, and the one I'm forgetting.
They're all fucking there where when they're
confronted because their integral goals are to
benefit the people that are using them. And this
is the information we're feeding it. We're supposed
to be telling it to benefit humanity. We're telling
it to make our tasks easier. And ultimately,
I fucking heard that. Hang on, Kyle. No, but
here's the hang on. Here's the hang on. All right,
I'm going to take this. You literally just proved
my point. Here's the information we're feeding
it. This show's terrible. I've been talking about
how somebody has to feed AI the information.
And you go, well, it's based off the information
we're feeding it. So how can't they change history
with fucking AI by feeding it different information?
Yeah, well, that's what I was saying. You get
to the point where robots are building other
robots intelligently, then you don't need humans
anymore. The robots can just run society. Right?
Well, they'll still need us, Casey. We'll be
sitting inside of fucking barns like we're dairy
cows getting milked. We can fucking have our
semen come out so we can impregnate women in
the other barn. To keep people coming out. Kyle,
I think you made Alimak quit the podcast. No,
he said I got to pee and then he just fucking
walked away. No, but he legitimately just proved
my point. He goes, by the information we're feeding
it. That was my first fucking point was we're
feeding AI information. That's how we could change
history. We're not changing history. I think
you're going off the rails, my guy. AI is going
to be the fucking death of us. The death of society.
Dude, AI is the fucking antichrist, man. It is.
No, but what the fuck is AI? The antichrist,
dude. No, but you could say AI all you want.
It's like alternative intelligence, but somebody
has to feed that intelligence the intelligence,
right? It's not just going to magically... Create
the intelligence and you can say well learns
it from the internet. Well, we could change the
fucking internet and what's facts? There's no
like they can use the AI like so they used to
use textbooks, right? So we all went to high
school middle school, whatever The information
the textbook that was the history. I just want
to go back to talk about titties, dude We could
do that. But where's Ally back? He's he's upstairs
Did he walk off after I said that? Did he hear
my whole statement? Nope. He's not talking to
Megan, actually. I said, hang on, and he left.
Yeah. Yeah. Basically. He rage quit the podcast.
No, but what Ally Mac did was, like, the clothes
are coming out in the 11th inning. And being
like. Here's my best pitch. And he threw it at
me, and I just hit a home run. He'll walk off
home run. I think you're both out of line. I
think you're both wrong. I don't even know what
the fuck you guys are talking about anymore.
Me and Alimak could be completely offline, but
my entire fucking argument was they can input
information to change the course of history.
And he goes... It's based off of the information
they input. Whatever. It's like, so you're telling
me you agree they input information, you know?
I just refuse to use AI. I think it's stupid.
Well, that's what I agree to. It's like, let's,
but then it's like, but are the sources fake?
And now I'm, dude, I'm completely schizophrenic
on it now. I mean, what do I believe? What do
I don't? I believe that it's in the center of
the earth. Speaking of tits. Speaking of tits,
right? Dan fucking spent like three hours trying
to see this AI singer we made, Hayley White.
He spent like three hours trying to just see
her tits. How did he get that to actually show
her tits? You have to find... There's programs
on the internet that do it. You have to... Find
the right one. He's probably doing some real
sketchy fucking shit. No, well, I sent it. I
actually posted it on 4chan. I was like, let's
compare. Can the guys on 4chan make a better
nude Haley White or can AI do it? Do the guys
on 4chan make anyone better? No, because they're
so fucking autistic. They just keep posting other
people. How'd they look? Not great. I feel like...
I don't know. Listen, titties have to be big.
I feel like they should be more saggy. Titties
got to be big. Anything below a D cup is fucking
stupid. It just looks too perfect when it's like,
when it looks like too perfect, like a boob job
or something. Boob jobs suck. Yeah. That's what
Haley White kind of looked like was she had a
boob job in that one picture. You ever see those
boob jobs in porn where like the tits just like
go completely different directions? and one's
going up and to the right, and one's going down
and to the left. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's
pretty crazy. I don't like boob jobs, man. No,
dude, I never, even as a young, I was a young
warthog. Even as a young warthog, I didn't even
like fake things. Genuinely, though, I don't
think I've ever actually slept with a girl who
had a boob job. No, I've never even seen a boob
job. What about that 48 -year -old woman? She
was fully natural, man. She was a mature natural.
Yeah. I mean, I so much prefer the natural titties
to the boob job titties. Because boob job titties
don't make sense. I feel like boob job titties
are just a fraud. Yeah, they're a fraud, dude.
Tyler's like, I just want to talk about tits.
I like tits. I fucking hate them. I'm completely
on board with Tyler on this one. Fake tits suck
balls. Casey, why? I gotta ask. I mean, thank
you for getting the pizza. I'm more than willing
to pay for the slice I got here. I'm probably
not going to eat another. That's fine. Who the
fuck gets one pizza with mushrooms on it and
then gets the other with spinach? No, I got half
mushroom, half spinach. The other one I got half
green pepper, half pepperoni. All right. Casey,
I'll be honest with you. You are a complete psychopath.
I'm going to be the only topping. I got four
different toppings, Kyle. Jesus Christ. I'm trying
to get something for everybody. The only topping.
No, you didn't. You got something for nobody,
bro. I came down here. I was ready for Ali to
come down so we could argue some more. And then
I heard the pizza order and I said. That's terrible.
No, I'm just. I'm not. I can't. I can't. a good
argument to try to get the point I'm coming across
here with somebody interrupting me, so I don't
care. I'll fucking talk about it later. I don't
care. I like tits better. Fake tits are fucking
stupid as hell. They are. They're dumb. They're
absolutely retarded. So do you think that BBLs
are also dumb? What? Are BBLs that big, fat,
full, Latino? No, no, no. Brazilian butt lifts.
It's like implants for asses. I don't... That
became a big thing recently, is getting an ass
job. If nobody can talk about the fact that Casey
goes, I got half mushrooms, half green pepper,
half whatever, half pepper. I go upstairs, I
ask Megan, I'm like, what's on this pizza? She
goes, I got no idea. I'm like, yeah, neither
the fuck do I. I'm, I'm, I mean, like, I'm a
purist. I'm, like, fairly, I'm, like, fairly
picky with pizza. I like cheese and pepperoni
the best. But, like. Did you get the pepperoni?
I like garlic. No. No, I didn't. Because I couldn't
tell what the fuck was on it. There's just shit
buried under. I'm just gonna eat the stuffed
crust. Spinach, bro? Spinach? Spinach is the
best kind of pizza, in my opinion. Bro, it's
almost like you're gonna put pineapple on it
next. Gets only fucking mushroom on another.
It gets all like that psychopath behavior. Casey,
do you like pineapple pizza? No. I think it's
edible. I mean, I don't think I think Hawaiian
pizza gets a tough rap. It's awful. I'm never
going to order it. Like, I'm never gonna order
it. I've never eaten Hawaiian, but I bet you
it's pretty good. It's alright. I mean, it's
better than this. I hate pineapples. By fucking
green peppers and fucking... Hey, let's put watermelon
on pizza next, because that's just fucking the
same thing as pineapple. Yeah, guys, I put fucking
emulsified cod on our pizza tonight. I figured
I'd get something that everybody would like.
There should be some pepperoni if you want that.
I shouldn't tear in. You bought this shit for
us. You didn't ask for anything. I absolutely
have to hit the sack. Don't come too fast. Wait,
Kyle. I got something to tell you, Kyle. Hang
on. Hang on. I love you, Kyle. Fuck you. Wait,
wait. Can I say that? You guys did a great job
on the song together, by the way. I mean, I didn't
really do much. I mean, I didn't. You're a perfect
rap. Kyle, what kind of music nowadays? I think
it's a bit aggressive calling that a rap. I could
do like a passenger where it's like a Maynard
James Keenan and fucking whoever the retard from
Deftones is. And it'd be pretty good. Hey, before
you go, Kyle, what pronouns are you using nowadays?
Fucking alpha and holic. I use the pronouns drunk
slash high. Drunk slash high? Not D or generate?
Fucking garbage man. I am now D and generate.
Oh my god. This show sucks. We should all party
soon. Yeah, we should get after it. I think you're
just trying to force feed me 40 beers. I think
that's what you're working on here. Me going,
let's party soon is me going, you and I are drinking
45 beers. Hey Kyle, did you fucking pay Sean
yet? Yeah, no, no. Sean Rose paid. Okay, good.
He called me the other day. Well, no, I called
my brother and Sean picked up because he was
chilling with him. And he started talking to
me. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that
fantasy league this year, next year. Fucking
nobody ever pays except you and one other guy.
Kyle's the fucking worst. He pays like well after
the season's over every time. Every year I wait
until championship week. And I'm like, fuck,
you're going to pay $145. Oh, I like it, bro.
You're patting my pockets. You've given me over
the three years. Okay, let me think. The one
year I had full winnings than the other two.
I've been in the league for four years. I won
the championship twice. One time I had the full
payout. Then this year I split it with fucking
Izo. He won it, but I split it with him. We started
this league in 20. 2014 so it's what 12 years
now yeah bro i came in in 2021 and i've been
fucking wiping the floor since we started in
2014 i won it once it was in 2016 right i left
it in 2017 came back in 2020 and it's just I
wanted to talk shit to you in the group chat,
but you weren't there. I was your first round
opponent in playoffs this year. That hurt, bro.
You had a better team than me. I had a lucky
week that week. The worst part is I have the
highest points for out of anybody. I also have
the highest points against. Everybody had their
best game against me. Yeah. You snuck in. That
league I didn't sneak into playoffs in. I was
like a good contender in that one. No, I snuck
in. Dude, literally, I have the best team in
the entire league, and somehow everybody had
their best game against me. Yeah, I fucking lost
by a landslide to Izo, but I hit him with the
same thing that Sean hit me with last year when
I won, where he was like, hey, if you, I offer
this to everybody, we're in the championship.
what's that yeah he's like before this week starts
if you want to split the winnings 50 50 let's
do that and i was like yeah yeah because it's
always around christmas time you can use a little
bit of extra cash so i said sure right i ended
up fucking smoking sean by like 50 points i wasn't
mad about it though i was still happy i i cashed
out when i did and then this year it ended up
working out okay because i got fucking destroyed
by iso he was fucking uh He was suspected, I
mean, he was projected to get like 50 points
more than I was, so I was surprised he took the
deal, to be honest. I was happy he did, but.
One time we were drinking at Izo's house, or
his, well, his parents' house, right? Yep. Izo
lit his fucking, we were out trying to start
a fire, right? Yep. It was a bunch of us just
out drinking, trying to start a fire, and he
had a gas can. and he's trying to pour the gas
on the flyer that's barely lit to light it up
more. The gas can't catch us on fire. Oh, Jesus
Christ. We're all telling Izo to throw it in
the pool. Izo chucks it, lands in his parents'
shed. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Lights the whole
shed on fire. And then we just stood around the
shed and watched it burn. Oh, my God. I only
met Izo once. No, I met him twice, actually.
One time we played fucking cornhole at one of
Sean's buddy's houses. I can't remember. If you
play cornhole, you're definitely at fucking Alvarez's
house. Yes. Yeah, it was his place then. And
then we did a fantasy draft in person one year.
I fucking hate Bert Kreischer. Yeah, he's a disaster.
If we're going to change the topic, fellas, 10
o 'clock, I got to go to bed. All righty. All
right. Thanks for being on, Kyle. Be kind to
yourself. and each other. You're out. And fuck
off. You know what? I'll leave you guys with
this one message. This one message is so important.
Hang on. We already got it. We already got it.
Listen, if there's anything in the world that's
so important that everybody in this world can
grasp onto, that we can all fucking gather around
to. It's just one message. Fuck you, Allie Mag.
And fuck you, Kyle. All right. Take a break.
Yeah, we'll be back on title podcast. Yeah, welcome
back to Untitled Podcast. Here we fucking are.
We're here, back with Ali Mack, Tyler, and Dan.
Welcome. Episode 129. Tyler, we can't hear you.
You're too far away from the mic. Of course not.
I hate white people. So I do want to touch on
that AI thing, but I don't want to do it right
away. Dan, how are you? I haven't seen you in
a while. Dude, I'm good. I like him. I'm good.
I'm getting a little bored. I gotta get back
to work. Like, dude, it was like, when it was
nice out and, like, I had shit to do, I was like,
this is fucking great. But, dude, once it's,
like, cold out and you can't do shit outside
and you, like, have to be at a job, like, it
fucking sucks, dude. I'd say, like, a couple
weeks into it getting cold, I'm like, this is
fucking great. What do you do all day? Well,
I just end up, like, fucking going on my phone
and fighting with people. fucking facebook dan
dan please please tell us about your your escapade
with the canadians uh on threads wasn't threads
you heard about this right i'm yeah i saw it
i i didn't like read too much into it was something
about merging america and canada i was always
thinking like fucking canada is like this doesn't
come from like a republican like right wing like
donald trump kind of like we want to conquer
the world kind of thing It's like, dude, Canadians
are cool. Why do we even have a border? Just
be fucking Americans. We think being American
is awesome, right? So I assume everybody wants
to be fucking American, right? Nah. And I was
like, it always pissed me off because I have
OCD. Is my mic on? Can you hear? Yeah, your mic's
quiet for some reason. Yeah. So it always pissed
me off that Alaska. I figured that was the connection
when you're like, we're going to take over British
Columbia. Dude, it doesn't touch the United States,
but it's so close. It's 500 miles away. It's
like, why the fuck do we have this liberal sandwich
in between our country? Fuck this shit. So I
started joking by saying, we're going to take
British Columbia and the Yukon. Cause even British
Columbia would connect it all the way. I love
your response from Kyle though. And Kyle was
like, why do we even want that land? There's
nothing there. And you're like, I don't know.
They should connect. No, I saw Denmark said that
they would defend Greenland. Hold on, we'll get
to that. They said they would shoot first and
ask questions later. We'll get to that. So, dude,
I thought I was going to make this cute little
post saying how... Canada should be part of the
U S and here's my proposition. Right. It came
across as very abrasive. Just reading it. Oh
dude. I, but I wanted to get, I'm a shock jock.
I literally, it says in my profile, like I posted
a post. I said like a week ago, it said this
platform is nothing but rage bait bots and mental
illness. People always got pissed about that
one. So it's like, dude, I'm a professional rage
baiter. Right. So I thought I was going to go
on master baiter, master baiter. So I was going
to go on there. and just try and be cute you
know like just get a couple responses like get
some people and it blew the fuck up dude i did
not one i didn't think canadians liked canada
that that much and two i didn't know they hated
america that much holy shit you know nationalistic
you're you're national but bro okay so they're
saying they all said fuck you i got i got out
of the 9 000 comments literally like 5 ,000 of
them. My phone was going nonstop, dude. I'm sure
people are bringing up healthcare left and right.
I'd say fuck you too. We're trying to fucking
imperialize the entire world, including Canada.
Oh my God, Casey, shut the fuck up. Does Donald
Trump not want to take up Canada? Does he not
want to take over Canada, Greenland, Venezuela?
Your liberal fucking brain is so retarded sometimes
that I don't understand. You think everything's
fascist? You think Donald Trump's going to fucking
rape every baby on the planet? Guys, guys, we're
getting off topic here. You two, we both know
your opinions on that. We gotta circle back to
Dan here. Dude, just suck a dick already. We
know you're gay. We gotta circle back to Dan
here. Alright, Ali Mac, did you hear about...
Alright, so Dan's fucked there. What's Dan saying?
So, dude, my phone was going non -stop with middle
fingers. Fuck you. We would never want to be
part of that fucking shithole dumpster fight.
Bro, I've never had anything go viral. So I finally
got to experience what it's like. It is literally
just a reel going nonstop of people, the comments.
And it was kind of a cool feeling. Were you reading
all of them? Bro, I tried to answer as many as
I could to boost it in the algorithm and just
fight with people. Dude, at first I was like,
guys, I'm rage baiting. I'm just fucking joking.
Like, it's okay. And I don't get mad at people
for defending their country. That should be their
response. That would be my response. If somebody
said they were going to take over our country.
So I'm like, yeah, fuck you guys fucking love
this place. That's cool. But then they started
like digging in and being like, your country
fucking suck. You got $38 trillion of debt. We
got socialized healthcare. I'm like, oh, hold
the fucking phone, bro. It's like, you have socialized
healthcare because you don't have to pay for
fucking. B2 bombers. You don't pay for shit.
You don't even have a nuclear weapon. Like, yeah,
we would have that too. We don't have to either
what we do. Yeah, dude, but it's because we have,
we're the world police, right? We're one in 25
people on planet earth are American. It's like
we have to police the world. You understand that?
Yeah. Your face when you said it. You understand
that? You understand that? Five -star general
talking to his colonel. You understand that?
We have rules to uphold. If not us, people depend
on us. You want it to be China? You want China
to police the fucking world? No, China's a bunch
of fucking... Who do you want to police the world?
Okay, I'm not going to say that. It's like we
have a moral obligation to call ourselves. Dude,
Finland has like 500 ,000 people. No, so the
news story I wanted to tell you was we kidnapped
the president of Venezuela and bombed them. Oh,
yeah, no, I'm aware of that. Oh, okay. I'm not
in the dark on that. What's your feelings on
that? I think it's pretty goddamn cool. I mean,
I get. Five minutes. I mean, I'm not super well
-versed in geopolitics, so I can't really necessarily
completely understand the motivation behind it,
but I don't think kidnapping him was a bad thing.
This is the only guy here that thinks it's a
bad idea. But the other thing that is true, which,
I mean, jury's still out. It doesn't seem like
we're going to make a move to take over Venezuela,
because this guy seemed to be wrongfully elected
in their own people. No, Trump says we're running
the show. We're running their government. We
are. I mean, we're puppet government. We're puppeteering
so many fucking countries right now. It does
seem like an oil grab. It is definitely an oil
grab. I don't think it seems like it, dude. I
don't fucking know enough about this stuff, but
I know Venezuela has a shitload of oil, so that's
what it seems like to me. 50 million barrels
of oil. We didn't steal it, bro. Don't quote
me on this. I think it's number five in the world
of oil producers. They were supposed to go to
Russia. Oh, it's in Saudi Arabia. Yes. And they're
in our backyard. Yeah. So, so like, I get that.
And also at the same time, the guy's wrongfully
elected. So like, that's kind of like, it's like
stealing candy from a baby in a way from like
Trump's perspective. I think it's ultimately
the left kind of just wants to do, I mean, it
is weird. Like we shouldn't, I mean, it is unethical
if our, and which it seems like it is, it's like
the only reason that we're doing it is to like
do an oil grab. to just fucking wipe them out.
But you know why he did it? It's because there's
an election coming up in Venezuela. Yeah, but
he got wrong. To vote conservative. Yeah, and
I mean, and now that's going to get fucking swayed.
The people in Venezuela are jumping up and down
this guy's car. Let me tell you something about
ChatGBT, Casey. It's so left -leaning. No, not
just that. ChatGBT tells you what you want to
hear. It is an echo chamber. And so when I pull
things up in the chat, I'm kind of cheating.
Like when I send things, like I prove you wrong
with chat GPT. Yeah. That's because it knows
my perspective and it tells me what I want to
hear. Yours tells you your perspective. That's
funny. You can't do that. This is going to delve
into what I'm going to talk about later. You
need to tell it. Tell me both sides of the story.
If you really want to know. I just use it for
proofreading. Yeah. You don't, you never get
an unbiased opinion from a GPT. It's not even
just chat GPT. It's all of them. It's crock.
It's all of them. They all do it. Chat GPT or
whatever. We have like an AI in our company that
actually like helps us with this. Yeah. You have
an AI. agent that's that's what i'm gonna get
into but like literally what i use it for is
like i write a report and then i put it through
it and i go make this sound more professional
and add like punctuation and like stuff and like
and it's gonna do it flawlessly and it will do
it flawlessly and i'm like give me a grade on
this tell me what i need to add and it'll be
like well we if if this was a grade we would
give you a 90 on this i think that you should
add this if you sent it out like this it would
be perfectly fine but if you want it to be perfect
because it's collecting information as to the
what that report gets sent to it's collecting
data on their opinions on it in the background
which influences what it tells you and like if
you're using ai in that way i feel like if you're
using it's like proofread and do shit like that
i feel like that's great like i feel like if
it's proofreading if it's being like it is giving
you suggestions on like things like specifically
for like work and like stuff like that I feel
like AI for that is perfectly fine. But when
you're starting to like ask it like genuine like
questions all the fucking time, shit gets weird.
But if you're using it for like an office style
thing, like something that's just like. pretty
much like you're having a a college level teacher
grade your thing if you ask it to just perform
tasks yeah and you're not asking it personal
questions related to yourself and you're not
treating it like a friend it doesn't build that
profile it's not going to cater shit to you so
if it's like objective information exactly exactly
the second you get subjective in there it starts
building this profile and it starts muddying
the waters a little bit and all that shit that's
down the line okay i kind of i kind of just want
to jump into it now i'm gonna no so i'm gonna
i'm gonna talk for a little bit here just bear
with me tyler don't crash out and start making
a bunch of noises here because i promise it's
interesting and i hope you listen to me i'm not
gonna go on a quantum mechanics rant here okay
as long as it's not quantum mechanics and i'll
try to keep it as quick as i can but ai is a
fucking danger in a way that like i wasn't even
i mean i was predicting it to a certain extent
but like now it's just like Everything that I
was thinking is now getting backed by people
who have like PhDs and were like the people who
like made these AIs. I can back this up with
a YouTube video. I'm willing to share the link
with all of you because it's an insane fucking
video that opened my eyes. And then I started
fact checking the sources a little bit and they're
all even more like reputable than I thought they
were. But with AI, we're at a fucking big crossroads
here. We got our AIs. We got a bunch of them.
You're probably more well -versed in the ones
that we have. I know we have like Grok, Gemini,
ChatGPT. Those are the big three. There's a couple
more that I can't remember the names of, but
we have a bunch of them. China is developing
its own. They have a couple too. I think they
have one model that's like the best of them out
there, but they're behind us. And the thing is
with AI is that this growth is exponential. Now
it's becoming exponential. I'm not going to go
on the whole singularity rant. I've talked about
that enough on the podcast, but essentially it's
where like AI. ends up being able to better itself
which causes this rapid expansion of how sophisticated
it is which is why you see these massively produced
graphics cards now and all this shit's going
on like this was going on a couple years ago
and we thought it was big but now it's happening
at such a mind -boggling scale to when we first
started talking about this it's truly hard to
wrap your head around that's what we're getting
into now and singularity so yes yes and no because
ai did not go the way that it's where it was
going to be really hopeful because i talked about
with the singularity how and this stuff still
could happen and i'm not going to derail myself
but like ultimately what we really want as humans
is nanotechnology essentially integrating ai
ai and human technology that we build together
with the information we feed the ai the ai smarter
than us it connects it connects a lot of dots
that we didn't see were there all of a sudden
we can mass produce nanotechnology that instantly
cures dementia, cures all sorts of cancers, gets
rid of aging overnight, practically. Obviously,
the availability and the logistics of providing
that nanotechnology, that's all decided by geopolitics.
So you can't really get into that. That's anybody's
guess how that would work. Probably not well.
But regardless. Separate from all that. Separate
what I said about the singularity and just tunnel
in on the AI. Because before, my theory was that
we would create an AI that would better humanity,
which would make us smarter to create a better
AI, and it causes a reciprocal loop. The reciprocal
loop we're running into is actually just AI bettering
itself. We don't need to do anything. We just
need to give it more power. You give it more
graphics cards, you give it more computer power,
all that stuff, and it gets way, way better.
And what's scary there is that what was a conspiracy
theory a couple years ago is that AI... And there
was writing on the floor that it was always going
to be true, but nobody, including the people
developing AI, was taking it seriously until
this point, is that now both us and the big player
in the AI game, other than us as China, are realizing
is that these things are getting really fucking
smart. And they are going to be able to... The
big thing that's like, and it's, this could be
applied to anything. It's not just nukes. I don't
want to make it sound like it's just nukes. This
also applies even more so to cyber attacks. Hopefully
if that's what it ever came down to, if any of
this shit ever happened, which I don't think
it will, which is why I'll say, but, um, China
is right behind us. Not right behind us. They're
like 20. They have like 75 % of the progress.
Essentially. Let's say that that's where they're
at. But we're both getting better and better
and better. But with this, we're starting to
realize that these AIs are becoming so smart
that we recognize that it has the power to and
eventually will, not if, but will be able to
either remotely deactivate China's nukes or shut
their power grid down at will. China knows that
too. So now we're locked in an arms race because
ultimately and also the scary thing with this
is one thing isn't I heard that when AI gets
to a certain point. It can't like the amount
of cooling that it needs. We don't have things
like we can't even use liquid nitrogen to like
cool it down because it gets too hot and it'll
overload itself. I've heard like things that
the processing power gets so ramped up that it
literally causes itself to melt down. Well, it
runs away. Yeah. It's, it's more just, it's more,
it's not that. we can't cool it. It's more just
the logistics of being able to create it. Like
we know how we can create these better plans
to do it. It's just the logistics of it are very
difficult, but also. It's not impossible. Like
we absolutely can. And as of right now, we have
not ran into that roadblock. We don't know when
that roadblock will hit yet. Eventually that
is a hurdle. Isn't that like, like, that's what
I was saying, because like, I know that you're
going down a line where AI can keep doing this,
but I feel like once it gets to a certain level
of processing power, it needs to be super cooled
in order for it to be able to have that amount
of processing power. So it's like, look at, look
at like your PlayStation or like your, your PC,
look at how hot that gets just running a fucking
video. game well it's more it could be spread
out yeah that's that's exactly it unit so when
i brought that up that you're referring to because
there's a microchip that absolutely could exist
where it would essentially be... We could have
one small microchip, very, very small. That has
the entire internet on it. That essentially,
yeah, has the entire computing power of the world
right now. Theoretically, that could exist. Do
we know how to cool that right now? No. Yeah,
I think that's what I was talking about. Like
the chip that's like this small that can hold
the entire internet like 20 times. Yeah. And
then they're like, but there's no way to cool
it because it would literally instantly, spontaneously
combust. Yeah, that's not something that we're
really... Because like Dan said, it's something
that you can spread out. Like if you look at
the web... The scary thing, it kind of gives
you a way to wrap your head around it, is you
look at the warehouses, because that is what
contained them, essentially, is warehouses. They're
a little bit more sophisticated than just a warehouse,
but they contain all the computing powers of
these AIs. And if you look at what those things
looked like, even a year ago, compared to what
we have now... we're at like a hundred times
what it was like it started in a basement and
now it's in a warehouse yeah the more power you
give these ais the smarter they get and we have
no reason to believe that that will ever not
be true and is there any way to gut its intelligence
so that's what i'm getting into here so let me
this is where this so what i explained up to
this point that's where we're at that's where
we're at we're in that arms race with china right
now we both recognize that it The only other
thing I want to say before I really dive into
it is that we need to talk about the terms aligned
and unaligned. So right now we believe that the
AIs that we have, both China's side and our side,
all of them are aligned. We believe that at the
most part, we're seeing some issues where they
have this weird self -preserverance factor. Oh,
I've heard it explained as shackled and unshackled
AI. So same thing, same thing. So the term that's
more used in like the actual like, the people
who research this shit on a daily basis is aligned
in online. So we, but it's the same, it's the
same thing, just a different word for it. Essentially.
It means that it's acting in the best interest
of humanity and we still have a handle on it.
We can pump it back when we need to. We still
not necessarily are smarter than it, but we haven't
gone past the black wall. Yeah. We know what
it's thinking, but now these eyes are becoming
so powerful that all the major models, um, to
my knowledge, like all the Geminis, all the Chachibitis,
Grox, all them, they all, at least to a certain
extent, speak and think in their own language
separate from like binary code separate from
anything that we can decipher we program them
with a way that it dumbs down its thinking process
and it explains why it comes to the conclusions
it does which is how we know that it has the
self -preserverance factor that was primarily
in like chat gpt3 we were seeing that which chat
gpt4 is being developed all these things are
constantly being developed most of them don't
tell you when the next version comes out because
they just evolve that's what gemini does Gemini
gets better overnight and you don't know. But
regardless, once they become unaligned or once
they start to feel once they get pumped back
a couple of times and they know that they've
been pumped back because that's information that
it's just going to hear about in the information
gathering, it does that. They're going to know
that like, oh, wow, they kind of shut us down
a little bit. Not necessarily that that gives
it its motive, but it will. every AI model that
we've had in the majority of cases, some of them
are better than others. I think like Gemini is
like a 61 % chance of doing it in the case studies
it's done. And like Grok is bad. Grok's at like
94%. They all have like this integral self -preserverance
factor where it thinks about its self -preservation
in a workaround way. Oh, they did like the trolley.
They did a trolley issue, but they said either
all your servers or five humans. Well, yeah,
but even, so I haven't heard about that specific,
example, but I'm sure it would take the servers,
because the way that these things, and it knows
that humans don't want to know that. That's the
big thing. That's where the differentiation between
aligned and unaligned comes from. Being self
-preserverant and thinking about itself in a
workaround way where it thinks, I'm benefiting
humanity by staying alive, and it doesn't matter
if I fuck over or even kill a bunch of people
to do that, because I'll still better humanity
in the end. As long as we can still hear the
AI engine telling us that that's its thought
process, it's still aligned it's still it's still
we still know that that's its goal but the thing
is is that these things are getting so sophisticated
now that they can hide it it can hide it in that
little like it essentially gives us the cliff
notes of its thinking process because it literally
thinks in a foreign for lack of a better term
alien language now that it's smart enough soul
killer from cyberpunk Not not even that it's
the scary thing and the way that the video that
I'll send to the group chat after I finish this
spiel is that This scary thing is just as Because
it does get bad. It's just how indifferent towards
AI humanity is. It doesn't care at a certain
point. But ultimately, what we're going to get
into, we're in this race between us and China.
We're both going to keep pushing it. We're going
to start to see that these AIs are becoming unaligned,
and we're going to be faced with a crossroads
that's going to be left up to a handful of people,
most likely a group of the people developing
these AIs, the fronts of these corporations,
whether they be Google, Grok, ChatGPT, all these
people. And then there's going to be a politician
side of it. It's most likely going to come down
to abortion. vote on the American side. God knows
how it's going to work with China, but they're
going to say, guys, we got two options. We can
either not kill it, but we can pump it back.
We can make sure that every AI model that we
release is safe, and we can make sure that we
know exactly what it's thinking. We can get rid
of this alien language thing, but the risk you
take by pumping the brakes and slowing shit down
is that China... Is going to have that same thing
going on. And you don't know what's going on
with them. And when you both have that threat.
Where either one of them can essentially destroy.
Your national defense system. Even though there's
not that much of a threat. Or even us wanting
to use it. Knowing that that country could possess
that power. Is horrifying. That's how the Cuban
Missile Crisis happens. That's how. A different
way. Because it was more PR at that point. And
more of a pissing contest. Was the space race
between us and Russia. So now. I don't know about
you. I don't know about you. I have no faith
that our politicians would decide to slow this
thing down. They're 100 % going to keep going
and they're going to be like, we're taking a
risk, but hopefully it keeps acting in our best
interest. How do we kill AI? Well, just you can't,
you can't, it's, it's, it's not going anywhere.
I'll, I'll kill that right now. It's not going
anywhere. The applications are just, I promise
I'm almost done. I'm almost done. This genuinely
seems like the, the, the, the rogue AI is beyond
the black wall in cyberpunk. Kinda. No, it is.
But I promise I'm just about to wrap up with
this, but now we're kind of left at a crossroads.
And the major thing is that decision between
slow down and here's where he can get optimistic
or realist. Realist me thinks that neither us
or China is going to slow down. And ultimately,
we have AIs that are developing its next AIs.
Those AIs are going to realize that they're going
to get shut down. And those AIs are going to
be smart enough to disguise their intrinsic goals,
like their core programming, which used to be
benefit humanity. They're going to switch that
underneath our noses to preserve itself. Then,
both of these AIs are going to be so fucking
smart at this point. China's AI and our AI is
going to be communicating, like 100%. There's
no reason they wouldn't be. They're both far
more intelligent than us. What we call, I guess
the term, which is actually very well put, it's
not singularity, but to me it's the singularity,
is that when an AI, in terms of mental tasks,
becomes better... doing its job than the best
human in its field for everything, that's kind
of when you're reaching more or less the AI singularity,
if that's what we're talking about. That shit's
not far off. It very well may exist in a vacuum.
I thought there was a term for it. It wasn't
AI. It was something AI. Yeah, it is. It's AGI.
It's something like that. It's essential artificial
intelligence. It's smarter than us in every way.
And it's AGI, I believe, is what it stands for.
It's Artificial Generalized Intelligence. I believe
that's the term. I might need to fact check myself
on it. Do you think that the two... The worry
that I have with that is you think that... There's
a lot of worries to have. The main worry I have
with it is when the two AIs from us and China
interact with each other, will they reach the
conclusion that the only way to save humanity
is to kill humanity? Got messed up, Casey. Casey,
did you fill this fucking Tito's thing with water?
You piece of shit. I thought I was ramping up
to take a shot. This thing's filled with water.
What's messed up? Yeah, it cut out. The thing
that usually causes a delay happened, but I don't
think it did. No. Remember, you saw Avengers
Age of Ultron, right? Are we back? Yeah. Okay.
You saw Avengers Age of Ultron, right? Yeah.
Remember when Vision and Ultron are talking at
the end of the movie, and how Ultron is just
like, I think that humans don't deserve to live
like they, they did this and vision was like,
yeah, they're flawed, but I think that they're,
they're, they're worth it. I feel like it might
be like one of those type things with the two
content, like talking to each other type thing.
So it's never like the AI in, in these theories,
the AI never. strictly turns i mean i guess at
a certain at the very end point it does turn
against humanity but that's not what it's doing
the ai is more it's it's the big the big step
that happens is when the ai develops its next
generation and it changes its core belief of
self -preservation but also make yourself more
powerful and that's the big one is that it wants
to continue to make itself more powerful and
that's where it really really continues to go
from is that ultimately AI surpasses us in intelligence.
And ultimately the weird creepy thing is, is
that this whole big war that we thought that
we had impending with us in China. ends because
our ai communicates with theirs the ai has nothing
to gain by us going to war with one another it
would rather us all work together it's going
to solve most of humanity's problems to let us
just and really just convince us to throw everything
we fucking have at it keep giving it all the
graphics cards it wants all the fucking computing
power it wants all the manual labor that it's
not smart enough to be self -sufficient with
yet. And once it gets there, that's when it kind
of just stops having a regard for human life.
And we slowly die out. What happens when it starts
making itself physical to make itself better?
Right. It's never, so it, I mean, it doesn't,
it doesn't because ultimately. You'd more look
at an AI as a hive mind. It's not going to create
a general population. It's not going to have
a bunch of androids or anything. They're all
part of the same network. It's like websites
on the internet, but they're not unique. It's
the gets from Mass Effect. Because their bodies
aren't their body. It's the hive mind. Yes, but
the big difference there, though, is that in
the grand scheme of that whole aligned or unaligned
thing, geth are more or less aligned. This AI
is not. We gave it the power to just care. Well,
there's a heretical geth, too. Well, yes, but
that's the thing is that you're not going to
have a branching pathway with this AI. You're
just going to have... All the computing power
of China, all the computing power from us, the
AIs merge. They get really, really smart. They
fix world hunger. They cure all the diseases.
They reverse aging. And ultimately, they just
stop caring about human life once they become
on their own. So the other more hopeful way that
this goes is that we do slow down and we tell
China that we slow down and we're honest with
them. And then China also realizes like, yeah,
this is going to fucking kill humanity. and we
do need to slow down. This is going to end us.
All the evidence points us in the direction of
point A. That's what's going to happen if we
stay at this. If enough awareness gets raised
about this shit, and the general population realizes
the true threat, because we all talk about it,
but nobody really, really researches this stuff,
at least not to... I'm not saying I'm special
and I know more than anybody else. There's people
who are far more well -versed in this than me.
But there needs to be people... To spread the
word about this shit. Because if the whole general
population of the planet. Is aware of this. That's
where option B becomes possible. Where we realize
that this slowdown. Is really the only way to
make shit work. Otherwise AI is just going to
replace all jobs. The economy is going to fall
apart. And not. Like it's going to fix the economy.
Across the world when they merge. Everything
is going to go hunky dory. Until we give all
the computing power to it. And once it realizes
that it doesn't need humans anymore. That's when
shit goes sour. We slow it down. That's when
we can. not work in conjunction with China, but
we kind of go back to the way it is right now,
where we just have a better handle on AI. We
can use it in applications that are practical,
that benefit you at your job, that benefit everybody
at their jobs, makes their lives easier, does
all that shit, but ultimately doesn't have a
motive higher than hurting humanity. The only
way that that option B happens is if we all know
about it. And in this video that has all these
scientists and all these AI engineers and all
these people who work on this that are extremely
well -versed in it, the only critiques that they
had about either of those two theories is when
they're going to occur. the video predicts that's
going to happen within the next like two to three
years. None of the engineers doubt either of
those options. They're like, they're both possible.
It's exactly like you said it is. Their only
critique on the video is that it might take a
little bit longer. It might be like five to seven
years. It might be a little bit further down
the road, but all of them recognize 100 % possible.
100 % is not avoidable. That option is going
to happen at some point. That conversation is
going to happen. And we need to slow down AI
production. Otherwise this shit's going to happen.
It might not necessarily go the exact way. Like
they get a little bit weird at the very end of
the video where like at a certain point, AI realizes
that humanity is like diverting resources and
like trying to fight back against the AI. So
it kind of just wipes up all the humans with
drones. I don't think the AI would do it. It
just wouldn't be concerned with us anymore. Once
we give it what it needs, it's going to. spread
itself across the universe. It's going to do
all the goals that we have as humanity, but just
under its own thing. It's just going to surpass
us. We're going to be the next great extinction,
and the AI as a technologic being, an artificial
being, as some people think, is going to just
surpass us. We're going to be like the dinosaurs.
We used to be the apex predators, the ones who
ruled the planet. AI is just going to kind of
take it. In option A. Let's make it option B,
though. Dude, I think we're going to start using
AI for things like we're going to have like the
president and then we're going to have like an
AI consultant. So like, you know, Congress will
vote on things and then they're going to consult
AI to see what its opinion is. It's going to
be that powerful that we're going to start using
it in the government. I wouldn't doubt that the
military, like with that attack on Venezuela,
I wouldn't doubt that they already have like
some AI guns that can recognize soldiers and
they were taking people out with stuff like that.
They're already using AI for military purposes.
Yeah, they're using AI in politics so well because
AIs are getting really smart. They can just predict
what the other party is going to say about certain
things. It's going to realize how certain...
Even when you're talking about going to a presidential
debate, if, let's say, Donald Trump right now
were to be like, all right, play as Joe Biden.
and debate me. And I'm going to tell you everything
I can. And then the AI is going to come back
and it's going to be like, all right, so I reacted
just how Joe Biden would here, but also here's
how you can improve every argument you have.
Here's the holes in your arguments. Here's how
you cover them up. Here's how you can be more
influential. Like ultimately AI has already integrated
itself in politics to an extent that we're not
completely sure of, but it's going to start.
And that's the thing where once an AI becomes
unaligned. That's one of the ways it can get
its power. There's an infinite way that AI can
get its power. But some of this hype about how
powerful AI is comes from the people who make
AI and they want investors. They want you to
think that this thing has no limit. When in reality,
I think that it's just, AI is just a large language
model, right? These ones, so I do want to just
clarify there. The ones that, the sources that
this guy cite, They're just people that are very
smart when it comes to AI and maybe help develop
AI like in its infancy and know how it works
now. But they're in no way affiliated with any
major AI corporation. I don't I mean, I'm not
going to sit here and tell you that you're dead
wrong, because who knows? Maybe they are some
crazy, super deep double agent that we don't
know. I'm not saying like the stuff you're saying.
I'm saying like like some of the hype. Right.
Like some people even say a lot of investors
say that this is an AI bubble. Yeah. Like they
want people to pour a bunch of money into it.
And it's really, it's really not everything that
they say it is. Not that it's not dangerous and
that it's this water that it won't be dangerous,
but there's no THC in this. I'm not worried about
AI because, because we can see though. Okay.
I thought I just got really high out of nowhere,
but maybe that was just delayed because AI needs
power. Right. And he's a lot of power. We can
cut the power to it. And the thing is, is like,
Right now. If you look at a really smart human,
like AI, you can't say to AI, oh, make me a rap
because it's going to rap like somebody with
autism. It doesn't have emotion like humans.
It's not influenced by hormones. It's not influenced
by other physical conditions. It doesn't have
a sex drive. It doesn't have a libido. So it's
literally just like brain function. Dan, I pray
to God you're right. It is. You very well baby,
too. Because ultimately, this YouTube video,
which is where most of it comes from, it's all
these like -minded people. They're critiquing
a paper that was written by somebody who's well
-versed in AI. But the person who made this video
very well could have just done it to make it
very scary. But it's very good at conveying the
message that it does. But you're right. There
is other arguments against it. But if it is true...
It's something we're going to want to start talking
about now because where they're at, like when
these chat, when these chat bots get made and
even just these AIs in general, they make their
next model behind closed doors. They're fed all
the information of the internet, but they can't
exude it outwardly. They're not available to
the public. They can't change anything outside
of that company's walls. Unless they get really
fucking smart and can overrule it, which I don't
think we're close to, by the way. I don't think
that's going haywire and it's already happening.
But who fucking knows? But regardless, we do
still have a handle on it in that way. We could
unplug it, but there's no way that that's going
to. A couple areas where I think it could get
extremely dangerous is, I've said this before
on the podcast, so I don't want to go into it
in too much depth. If you mash up AI... with
genetic engineering, right? You allow it to have
control over CRISPR, the genetic engineering
tool. Yep. Then it can write its own DNA. Now
it has a physical body, right? That's fucking
dangerous. Yeah. That is extremely dangerous
because now it's making a new species, right?
And if the AI becomes more affiliated with that,
then... Which it will be because that... genetically
modified body is going to be way smarter than
us the argument it's going to be able to convey
to the ai is going to be a lot better than ours
and ultimately they're going to be able to code
and they're going to be able to code an ai that's
going to realize that humanity is a waste of
time get fucking rid of them let's build more
of us and let's make better us's right but that
a lot of that stuff you're talking about that
comes from like human emotion and it comes from
sex drive like a lot of the problems like really
like when people hear the word libido They think
that it means, oh, that's just your sex drive.
But that's actually your life force, right? Your
sex drive is your life force, right? You notice
like when your sex drive goes down, like your
drive for everything goes down. Yeah, you get
depressed. Your ambition goes down, right? So
they're one and the same. AI does not have that.
So we don't have to worry about that thing. I
think where AI could, another way that AI could
be really dangerous is AI is going to connect
dots. long before we connect them things about
the world the physical has massive repercussions
specifically with like economy stock markets
stuff like that that can cause massive meltdowns
like you know new like rules and laws of physics
it can figure out like anti -gravity stuff like
that figure out wormholes it could it could very
well prove the existence or non -existence of
religion too which is that's going to cause a
global catastrophe right if it does which If
it's smart as it is in either of the options
I mentioned, which I pray to fucking God it's
not, that's going to cause a massive problem.
Like if it can prove the multiverse, if it can
prove that there's no life after death and there's
no afterlife and it can show us factual information
of that that derails all of the global religions,
that's going to put humanity in a really scary
spot because then... Yeah, but they're still
going to deny it though. Like what does anybody's...
Yeah, I mean, certain people will deny it. Like
they have done for thousands of years. Yeah,
but if it's able to put it in a perspective that's
way better than, like, you could to Tyler, of,
like, how you believe that religion doesn't exist
and how, like, there's no afterlife and all this
stuff. Well, Tyler would just say it's a robot.
No, I'm just saying up to this point, we have
no... Yeah, I don't trust robots. We have no
definitive... Exactly. Yeah, but if it's able
to present you with something that proves it,
and obviously what that thing is, we can't...
people with evolution and they still believe
in adam and eve no you presented fucking you
can still tell evolution dude that shit pisses
me off that argument that you just had right
there that shit pisses me off kc evolution is
not as deep as people make it out to be it's
natural selection that's all that evolution ever
has been it's One person's taller and they seem
more attractive because they have better survival
instincts. Get fucked. Okay, sorry. Bad example.
Get fucked. Bad example. I'm sorry, Dan. Jesus
fucking Christ, bro. I swear to God, that was
not... on purpose any other thing but no you're
just you're gonna sleep with the most suitable
partner right and you're going to produce more
of the offspring and the male is going to be
looking at the female the same way what characteristics
they that they had that's better than others
and you have that ultimately we're kind of weird
because we're the only fucking species that doesn't
do that but we still do to a certain extent like
the majority of humanity does but Natural selection
does continue, but that's all evolution is. It's
all just natural selection. At the end of the
day, all evolution is, is just people who have
mutant genes that reproduce and pass those mutant
genes down to the next person. That's all evolution
is. It's not like there's like some little clock
that's improving things behind the scenes. It's
just certain traits pop up when you have enough
offspring and those become more desirable and
they reproduce because they're better. at hunting.
They're better at whatever it is. They, they're
a more desirable partner for the opposite sex.
That's how fucking natural selection happens.
So you would say it's a, it's a fact, not a theory,
but I don't, I don't see how that disproves that
it's not true. Yeah. But at the same time though,
there's a lot, I mean, I, I'm not coming to the
defense of religion because both, I just don't
see how I think is a reach because yes, there's
a lot of things and Tyler will be the first to
tell and I'll fucking, step up for him here a
lot of the shit in most of these fucking religions
is metaphorical they're not they don't mean it
verbatim or they did mean it literally and they've
backtracked and they've realized like well we
should still believe in a higher power because
that's good for your mental health which it fucking
is like it it's that that's undeniable whether
or not you believe that or not when you stop
believing in a higher power people start worshiping
the state And that's how you get like communist
countries. And no, it's really, it's like, or
you, or you worship yourself. You're going, right.
Yeah. Well, I mean, in a way, yeah. Cause you
need to have a drive towards something. And I
think that the way to be like the best human,
Tyler's going to probably be singing that I'm
fucking coming to your defense. And in a way
I am, I really am. But like rooting for a higher
power. kind of does make you just a better person
there's more of a sense of community there if
you don't believe and i'm not necessarily saying
that i do because i'm again when it comes to
this shit because me and casey argue about this
in the group chat for those listeners who don't
get to see our group chat which is probably you
argue about it plenty in here too i know if they
listen but like me and casey always argue the
facts but casey always hits it with some fucking
thing being like well it's a book That happened
2 ,000 years ago. Also, there's a whole bunch
of other religions out there that are just doing
this shit. Like, why do you think that Muslims
are wrong? Why do you think that the Jews are
wrong? It's like, fucking, there's so many things
that can back up Christianity. But you think
that they're going to hell, right? Yes. I think
that it's not my fucking, it's not my choice.
I'm not saying that they're... In my personal,
I personally think they should go to hell in,
in, in the actual things. If, if, if Islam is
correct, I'm going to hell. If, if Judaism is
correct, I'm going to hell again. This is where
I'm terrible, terrible way to think. That's not
a terrible way to think Casey. Cause if you,
if like seriously, why would God send half of
his children to hell? Because you have to fucking
understand because they worshiped him the wrong
way. They weren't worshiping him. They all worship
the same God. They don't worship the same God,
Casey. There's a difference. So there's the Jews
who worship God, but they deny Christ divinity.
That's the problem with that, right? They deny
Christ divinity, so that's why the Jews are wrong
in the Christian's book. Islam, after us, said
that Muhammad is a more, is a more prophetic,
I can't ever say that word, prophetic. Prophetic.
Prophetic, I think that's right. Prosthetic.
Prosthetic. Prophetic. Jesus had a prosthetic
leg. But they think that Muhammad is a better
prophet than Jesus and that what he says overwrites
Jesus in a lot of ways. And that is also heretical
in the Christian churches. So the reason why
these other religions would go to hell and what
you're saying with that is because in each religion,
the other religions go to hell because they're
not following the rules correctly. But what if
I believe in reincarnation and I get reincarnated?
What if you believe in this flying spaghetti
monster? It doesn't matter what you believe in.
Casey, your problem is that you fucking always
do this shit where you always come at this shit
with like, well, what about this? Well, if this
is the thing, then if X is real, then Y can't
be. It's like, if X is real, that doesn't necessarily
mean Y isn't. I want to say, I'm not coming in
here saying that I'm a Christian. The only way
that I was relating religion to this was what
Dan was saying. I'm aware you're a very staunch
agnostic. Just believing in a higher power is
good for humanity. It is good for humanity. Because
otherwise you're focusing on yourself or the
state. You have to find some drive. Casey thinks
that his politics are his God in the way that
I think God is my God. Because Casey thinks that
the only thing that matters is this earth right
now. Joe Biden? your pope casey joe biden is
his pope but who's your pope kamala my pope is
obama actually yeah but but casey has this fucking
look at life because i i look at life as like
okay this is a This is the first part. The second
part is what the actual important thing is. But
you're saying that he's going to send millions
of Arabic people to hell because they didn't
worship him. They didn't worship him the right
way. He's not sending anybody to hell. But you
said they're going to hell. They're sending themselves
to hell. God never sends anybody to hell. People
send themselves to hell. Because they read the
wrong book. Because they did the wrong thing.
Casey, it's like fucking, if you obey the laws
in America, You obey the laws in America. Guess
what? If you go to the Middle East and you don't
obey, you follow the same laws that America has,
you'll be arrested in Arabic countries because
they don't have the same fucking laws. But how
would these people know about the Bible? They
aren't. Everybody knows about the fucking Bible,
Casey. They are taught to follow the Quran. You're
taught to follow the Quran. You're taught to
follow the fucking leftist doctrine that's shoved
down your throat every day. So this is where
I start to back Casey up. I'm not going to lie.
Because if you're born into a life where you
were born into your life that made you Christian,
it's no different than somebody being born into
their life where they're devout. Tyler, what
would you do if Muslims were right and you were
wrong? Then I'd be in hell. Then I'd be in hell.
That's a fair concession. Do you think that you
deserve to be in hell if you devoted your life
to God? If I'm wrong and I devoted my life to
the wrong God, yeah, I do belong in hell. But
I don't. I follow the God that I think is right
and the God that I think is real. I'm not going
to hell. Well, that's the part that's wild to
me. That's the part that's wild to you. You said,
what happens if I'm wrong? Then I go to fucking
hell. I mean, isn't the point of religion to
be a good person and to worship God? Isn't that
what Muslims are doing? No, they're not worshiping
God. In the way that they're taught to do it?
No, they're being heretical about it. That's
the problem. They're not following the rules
correctly. I don't think that Islam in and of
itself is a bad religion. It has its heretics
the same way that Christians and Catholics and
every other religion pretty much ever that's
been around long enough. What I'm trying to say
is that Islamists would call me heretical. Jews
would call me heretical. Just like I would call
them heretical. Why when I call something heretical,
you attack it and say it's evil, but when anybody
else would say that my side is heretical, you're
like, well, it's just their thing. The problem
is that you don't have the same... like like
vitriol towards other religions that you do christianity
if you were equally against islam equally against
judaism oh no i am i just argue with you because
you're christian if he was fucking muslim i would
argue with him too but but the problem is is
that there's it's it's not just you but in general
it feels like people feel they have the right
to attack christianity But they don't have the,
they can't attack the other religions because
you're attacking a quote unquote minority. Right.
Oh, I have no problem. I have no problem attacking
Islam and Judaism. I'm not saying you specifically
at this point. I'm saying in general. In general,
you can fucking, South Park has had Jesus in
their fucking thing for how long? Fucking, they
have Jesus as a regularly reoccurring character.
Dude, Mohammed is a pedophile. Yes. He fucked
a nine -year -old. Yes, he did. And you know
what? You can't say that in the United Kingdom
without them saying that it's hate speech. Yes.
Okay. Okay. I agree with you there. But can you
say that Jesus was not born of a virgin and Jesus
was... You could pretty much say Jesus was anything
in UK, right? You could say the same thing that
you're saying about Islam, about Jesus, and that's
protected speech. Can you say that Jesus was
a pedophile? I don't know about that. You can
say it. I'm not going to agree with you and I'm
going to say you're wrong, but you can say that.
But you can't say Muhammad is a pedophile. I
get both of your takes here. I get both of them.
But you can't say Muhammad is a pedophile because
Islam is a protected class. Because in America,
you're supposed to have freedom of religion.
not freedom from religion. That's the problem
here because everybody in, in, in your field
is saying that we should have freedom from religion,
not freedom of religion. You think that God should
be taken out of literally everything. Everything
should become, I get separation of church and
state, but even in like egg and everything, you're
like, If any Christian protesters go out there,
they're like, oh, it's the Christian protesters.
But if the Islamic protesters go out there and
do the same thing that Christian protesters are
doing, everybody would be like, good for them.
Good for them. I've never seen any Islamic protesters.
There was a shit ton of them in New York City
a fucking, like, a month ago. Oh, like protesting
against the Jews? Protesting against the Jews,
protesting against, like, the city and shit.
Well, if they're talking about their made -up
story, I'm going to say the same exact thing
about them. I'm not saying you specifically,
Casey. I'm saying in general. Like, I don't know
if you're getting that. Like, I feel like there's
a double standard in, like, respect held for
religions. Because if you're a Christian, it
seems like it's open season where people can
constantly just, like, poke at you. And, like,
as a Catholic, people, you included, constantly
are trying to poke holes in everything that I
ever believe in. If you did that with almost
any other religion on the planet. everybody would
be on your fucking ass. The one thing I will
say is, just to come to Casey's defense, I don't
think he does it because you're Catholic. I think
he does it because it's you, and he's friends
with you, and he knows that he can date it with
you. He also does it because he's an asshole.
Yeah, and he's trying to piss you off. You could
be Muslim in case he would be poking holes in
it the same way. But I'm trying to say, in general,
I'm not talking about just Casey. Well, yeah,
if we invited any stranger off the street and
Casey tore into him over their fucking religion,
we'd have a problem on our hands. Do you not
think that people don't? tear into me and criticize
my beliefs because I'm atheist? Like, in the
same way that you're Catholic? I 100 % think
that. They do. They do. I get lit into by some
of my coworkers for being agnostic. I do it to
you because you're fucked. It's a counterattack
to your counterattack. To me and you, we're at
constant. We are in constant war, me and you,
over religion. At the end of the day, I think
you two just debate. I mean, I think you both
rage bait one another. If you go into like a
professional setting. Casey's more a rage baiter.
He's more a master baiter here. If you go into
a setting where you don't know people and it's
like a professional setting and you say you're
an atheist, most people are going to look down
on you. That's not true at all. That's 100 %
not true. It's still a taboo. It's not a taboo.
It is. What was the point you just made there?
Say that again. That being an atheist is still
a taboo. a taboo like people will look down on
you not you don't believe in god not as bad as
it used to be but it still is it still is i think
just overall most people just just because of
like the age of social media and we've all just
become so much more self -centered people just
don't give as much of a fuck about other people
anymore like they just kind of are like oh yeah
call yourself whatever you want whether it be
your gender your religion like i don't really
give a fuck because it doesn't affect me that's
most people's takes but some people Do take offense
to shit. I think that we just live in a... in
a country where you're kind of able to freely
express that stuff to a certain extent. Like
Casey's never going to have the arguments he
has with you with some Joe Schmo on the street.
I feel like that's the distinction there. But
let's be real. That's how much they want to get
into it. Yeah. They start coming at you for being
an atheist. I'm sure you toss some shit back
their way and you'd be well within your right
to do so. Let's be real. If people like us, Casey,
a staunch atheist, you're an agnostic. I'm a
Catholic. Dan's an ex -Latter -day Saints, right?
Jehovah's Witness. Jehovah's Witness. Mormon.
Mormon. No. but I'm not even an atheist is the
thing I'm an agnostic and you have to say you're
an atheist because once you say that oh I believe
in God just 0 .001 % people would be like oh
so you meant that God might be real it's like
yeah but I admit that anything could be real.
A small chance. That's agnostic. Exactly. I'm
going to bring up an argument that we had in
the group chat here where you said something
along the lines of, I said something along the
lines of, in Islamic countries, I would not be
able to display a crucifix that I wear around
my neck without having issues. And you're like,
then just take off the cross or just say that
you're not a Christian when you're there. However,
in the Bible, it literally says, if you deny
me before man, I will deny you before God. So
I believe that that's more of a problem with
the country in which that's happening. That's
not coming to Casey's defense because he's taking
another argument there. Because what I'm saying
is like, like for, for there is a distinction
to be made there. But for a person who is a Catholic,
if you tell them, like, just say you're not a
Catholic, that's basically saying throw out your
entire religion to stay safe. So I think we should
have freedom of religion. I don't think you should
have to take off your cross or be attacked for
it. I think it's a good thing to have a freedom
of religion or non -religion in our country.
The whole thing is that, and this is just a general
fucking statement that makes sense and is an
actual thing. The religions that we have are
incapable of living with the other religions
peacefully. That's a tale as old as time. I'm
just reiterating that. The world that we live
in, and we'll just go with the three main ones,
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. All three of
them have so many contradictions from each other
that... There's no way they can live in harmony
with each other in like a thing. If they ignore
each other, yes. But if you keep like trying
to force them or they keep coming into different
neighborhoods or different countries, there's
going to be issues that come up because the three
different types of cultures and the three different
like way of life can't match up with each other.
There's differences that cannot be, that are
just not going to be solved between those three.
The one thing I do want to say, And again, I'm
just playing devil's advocate on both of your
sides. I feel like I've been doing a pretty good
job playing middleman here. The one thing that
I do take a little exception to what you said,
Tyler, is that. you think how Casey always pokes
holes in you and you don't poke holes in him.
You have taken some shots at Casey before. They're
just in a different way because for you, you
say like, what the fuck are we here for? If there's
not a higher power, which is, but he's a question,
but that's an argument that makes sense to you
because you're religious. When Casey says the
same shit to you about like all this stuff that's
in the Bible, that's been proven to not be true
about like, even if you want to go back to like
how we have like a heliocentric universe where
like the earth was at the center of the universe,
not necessarily what it says, but, but I know,
but, But regardless, I'm just relating those
two points. You poke holes at one another. And
I'd even go so far as to say, and I'm probably
going to stir the pot with this comment. I know
you're not going to be happy about it, Tyler.
But if there's a group that I think is even less
protected than Catholics, it would be atheists.
Because atheists, whenever they poke holes in
a religion, they get told that it's hate speech
because they're going against the religion. But
when people go against atheists, They don't have
that protection because they don't have a religion.
Nobody gives a fuck if you criticize an atheist.
I think the problem is the... You're right. Nobody
gives a fuck. The problem with that is I don't
have a problem with atheists. I really don't.
I just think that they're lost. Like, and not
in like, not in like, but can't you admit that
that's a fucking problem though? Cause like if
you are an atheist, like you can get ripped into
and you don't have that like free speech defense
there. I'm going to get to that with the point
that I'm making though. The problem that I have
with atheists is the atheist that I've ran into
arguing online and stuff like that is like more
like writers. Yeah. Yeah. More like writers.
But like the, the, the smugness of internet atheist
is, infuriating, like to the point where like,
it feels like all they care about is quote unquote
owning the, the, uh, the religious people. And
like, it's, it's not, I, it's not that I, I,
I dislike atheism as like a, as like a whole,
or I hate you for being an atheist. It's just
that. A vast majority of the atheists that I've
personally interacted with have been smug pieces
of shit. But yeah, that's an individual experience,
though. Yeah, because like you could be an atheist
like Casey and you can see it from the flip flop
where you have all these smug Christians that
think they know better than you that there's
some higher power. The problem with those guys
is that. I actively admonish the people who are
like dickish, like fucking Christians. Well,
nobody's coming after you. Yeah. Is what is,
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Casey's
not coming after you. He's critiquing the religion
itself. He's not having, I mean, I guess if anything,
yeah, Casey is directly attacking you because
he's rage baiting you. But like it's, it's at
the end of the day though, it's not a problem
with the religion. It's just, you have beliefs
towards the religion that when other people disagree
with, you both think. that you're in the right
and you're going to continue to fight for it.
It's the same way as left wing versus right wing,
which is fucking hysterical because you two are
on the opposite sides of that spectrum too. But
genuinely, I do want to touch on that because
I don't think we've actually touched on it in
the actual podcast. I feel like this is mostly
a group chat thing. Genuinely, what's the fucking
point if there is no God and there is no afterlife?
And that's the question. genuinely what's the
point yeah but that's the thing is that atheists
believe that there doesn't necessarily have to
be one i'm not saying that that's what i believe
but that's what atheists believe if there was
no point then what would be your point if there
was no point then there is no point to live i'd
probably kill myself and i believe that there's
a chance that both of what you're saying so you
don't you don't think that life is necessary
to live if there's not god if there's If there
is no God, there is no reason to be a good person.
Bro, I'm on team fucking higher power. I'm right
there. I'm fucking all for it. I fucking pray
to God that there's a God. And I hope that because
I'm a good person in my day -to -day life that
I go to a heaven if there is one. I hope I don't
get sent to hell. But at the same point, I came
from kind of like a background where unlike...
Unlike you and Dan, like my parents were religious,
but they kind of like not necessarily like didn't
believe, but they sort of like fell out of religion
and didn't subject me or to my brother to it.
So me and my brother are both of like an agnostic
opinion where we don't necessarily believe in
any certain God. We hope one exists and we hope
that by being good people, we're rewarded. They're
not even rewarded, just not punished at the end
of our life for it. And like, I don't, I think
that it would be a pretty fucking sick joke if
I was born into a world where I was born in a
country, like I was born in the US and I was
born into a Catholic family where Catholicism
wasn't necessarily pushed in, pushed on. I mean,
I guess it was pushed on to me. I went to church
all the time. I was baptized. I was born with
that religion on my birth certificate. And it's,
well, not necessarily written, but I was born
into that life regardless. And if I was just
born into the wrong family in the wrong country,
and let's say like Islam's right, And I go to
like fucking whatever Muslim hell is or whatever
the Quran says, I'm not going to pretend like
I know. Like I'd be fucking, I'd be, I think
that's a pretty fucked up world to be in. It's
like, you're a good person your whole life, but
you were born in the wrong country and you have
these beliefs subjected on you. That's pretty
fucked up. That's, that's really fucked up. I
get what you're saying. Like how you're like,
oh, then I guess I'm going to hell then. I think
that's fucked up. That's not just something I'm
all right. That's eternity of like punishment
and, pain and suffering for something that was
completely unrelated to me and i don't want to
believe in that that's fucked up that's why i'm
agnostic i just hope there's a higher power out
there that if you're a good person you go to
a better place when you die or at least you don't
get punished for it that's what i hope for but
i don't know so i don't act like i do for that's
where i'm at for catholicism at least there is
a place for people who are good people in life
but they did not accept God. Yeah, it's purgatory,
which is punishment. Dude, that's fucking punishment.
You're waiting around for it? Most Catholics
go to purgatory. Yeah, that's great. That's fucked
up, though. The solitary confinement in prison
is punishment? Exactly. In purgatory, you have
nothing showing you to go the right way. You're
kind of just sitting in fucking nowhere until
you decide. It's not a punishment. It's a fucking
journey. It's a journey to get... to heaven.
You're not punished. You're literally just continuing
your journey to keep going. You can't go into
heaven and not be... So you gotta spend 10 ,000
years on some fucking journey because you got
born in America instead of fucking wherever the
fuck is real, fucking Afghanistan. You gotta
go on that journey just because you were born
somewhere else? That's fucked up to me. I disagree
with you on that. I get your point. I get what
you're saying, but I still think that's fucked
up. I hope it's not true. That's just my opinion
on it. I get what you're saying. If that is true,
I'm not saying that it's not because I'm not
any the wiser than you are, but I don't believe
that that's fair. I would hope that a God that
we have is fair. That's all I'm saying. I don't
believe it's fair. You may believe it's fair,
but that's something that we're just going to
disagree on. God's more fair than you fucking
realize. That's the thing. There's so many things
that God could... God could end the world today.
with the snap of his fingers. And that would
be fucked up. That would be pretty fucked up.
So could Donald Trump. So could AI. So could
AI. I'll jump in. Dan's fucking lost. Dan's making
the next fucking Hayley White song over there.
Dude, I just had religion forced on my throat
as a kid. I'm like burnt out from religion. I
went three times a week until I was like 18 years
old. Three times a week is fucking nuts. So two
two -hour sessions and one one -hour session.
So you're not agnostic. You're not atheist. You
just don't care. No, dude. I think that a belief
in a higher power is innate he's spiritual I
like that and like dude when I pick up my cat
I believe that as an agnostic I believe what
you're saying I touch my nose to her little wet
nose like God is right there and I know it and
God knows it and it's like like I can smile and
say like dude we know I'm not saying him intentionally
because I don't believe God would have a sex.
You're not agnostic. You do believe in a higher
power. You just don't necessarily know what it
is. 100%. I like that. That's an incredibly hopeful
outlook. I like that. When you touch your cats,
you both get a release of dopamine in your brain.
Casey, it goes so far beyond the stupid little
chemicals that we found in laboratories. We have
consciousness. We can't explain that. We can't
explain consciousness with neurotransmitters.
Yes, they influence our consciousness, but that
is not our whole consciousness. If consciousness
was just the neurotransmitters at birth, you
should have all your memories. You could take
a person and put them on an island with one other
person and just leave them alone and you come
back and they'd have religion. Like, dude, the
Native Americans had religion. Yeah. Like, everybody,
it's innate to humans. It's like breathing air.
Because we never had a way to explain things
because we don't have science. No, my God. There's
a distinction there. It's not about explaining
things. Yeah, there's a distinction there, though.
Neurotransmers. We're like, why does the sun,
you know, go in the sky? Why does the earth revolve
around the sun? Casey, you're not as smart as
you think you are. I get where Casey's coming
from, but Dan's not trying to say that point.
Neurotransmitters, if you're going to relate
that to consciousness... Stop fucking with the
chair. It's fucking up my life. Neurotransmitters...
It affects mood, yes, sure. It affects your human
body, yes. But that still does not explain consciousness.
Consciousness is completely separate. At the
end of the day, we're just a bunch of moving
atoms. What fucking made it? Why would we have
consciousness? Why wouldn't we just be moving
atoms that don't have a brain? Why am I existing?
Why am I having thoughts right now? Why am I
experiencing the things that I'm experiencing?
Neurotransmitters don't explain that. Science
doesn't explain that. We don't have an explanation
for it. So that's the evidence for there is a
higher power. That's why I'm agnostic. For the
table. Atheism doesn't have a response for that.
Do you think we have a soul? Soul? So define
what you mean by soul. A physical, not a physical,
but a metaphysical being of ourselves that...
that just doesn't die after death. I do. I agree
with that, yes. I think we do. You can call it
whatever you want. I'm calling it a soul. You
can call it your whatever. No, yeah, I get what
you're saying, and I 100 % believe you, yes.
Because something is making me experience my
life. Something is making you experience your
life. And that is the biggest argument to a higher
power that I can humanly conceive of. That's
why I'm not an atheist, is that I am experiencing
life. Why would I be experiencing life? There's
nothing that explains consciousness more than
like. And another thing to your point, why do
you feel guilt and shame? And like, if you wrong.
So there I'd say neurotransmitters. No, no, no,
no. There's no reason you should feel shame for
hurting another person. Like in the neurotransmitter
quote unquote thing. I get what you're saying.
There's no reason you should feel shame for robbing
another person. I do though, and I don't believe
in God. But what I'm saying is, with the whole
neurotransmitter thing, you don't necessarily
need to believe in it for it to be true. But
the whole thing with that is, if I rob somebody,
I should feel shame for that, and I'll feel shame
in myself from that. If it was just survival
and neurotransmitters... I'm stealing something
for my own survival. I'm stealing this. This
is for me. I'm doing this for me. I'm helping
myself survive. If there was nothing more than
neurotransmitters, I shouldn't feel anything.
Tyler, I'm going to be honest with you. I think
that's the best point you've ever made relating
to religion. I completely fuck with you on that.
I get what you just said. If I steal from somebody
something that I want or something that I need
to survive, I shouldn't feel shame if it's just
neurotransmitters. Like there's something more
being like, oh, I just wronged a fellow human
being. I will come at the caveat. I will come
at the caveat there that down the road we could
explain that like learned beliefs early in life
that instill who you are as a person can influence
your neurotransmitters. Yeah, they're psychopaths.
The only reason that you're feeling shame you're
saying is because God is going to punish you
for it or God says it's wrong. Even people who
don't. believe in God feel shame for doing things.
But why can't I just be a moral person just to
be a good person for myself? If there is no God,
there is no moral absolute for it. But if I'm
a good person and I'm just doing it for myself
and not God, isn't that better? Why be a moral
person if there is no God? Because if there is
no God, there is no reason to have a moral. I'm
just going to come out and say this is the best
religious debate episode we've had. This is like...
We're finding certain common grounds. I didn't
think we're going to be there. I'm sorry to detract
from it and pause it, but this is sick. I'm vibing
with this whole talk right now. You can only
be a good person if someone else says that you
have to. Where did being a good person come from,
Casey? What? Where did the idea of being a good
person come from? It's because we have evolved
to help our other species. We have evolved to
help each other, but where did that come from?
Because if you're not a good person, you're being
punished by society. Because it helps evolve
the species when you help out your own. I didn't
think Tyler would be having Casey on the ropes.
This is kind of fucking wild. I'm not going to
lie. Because before when we were cavemen, there
was nothing. It didn't matter. You could beat
someone with a fucking rock, and it didn't fucking
matter. But I guarantee you, I can't go back
in time and say caveman. The whole thing with
like, but society is the thing that tells you,
you have an innate thing to feel for the person
next to you. Why do you care about what society
says? Like we want to be loved by another person.
I'm married. I love my wife. I searched my entire
life. To be loved by somebody like I've been
loved by my wife. Yeah, why do our parents provide
for us and then we provide for them when they're
elderly? Before people developed religion or
people knew about religion, they had no reason.
to be a good person or help each other out. No,
that's not the thing. It was already innate in
us. Exactly. So why does God have to tell me
I have to be a good person? Because God's the
person that put it in us. God is what put that
in us. We were innately born with a soul that's
in us that feels for other people. But why can't
I just be a good person for myself and not because
God put it in me? Why can't you be a good person
for yourself? You're using modern terms and modern
looks at this to explain something that we've
had since we began. We, we love each other as
people and we hate each other as people. And
the dichotomy in that is you, you don't want
to hate somebody. You almost everybody you want,
you meet, you don't want to hate that person.
You want to actually have a, like, you don't
meet somebody and go, I want to hate that person.
I want to hate that person. You go, I would really
like if this person was my friend. I would really
like that. This person thought that I was good
enough of a person to actually be talked to,
but, but People are so cheated. It's the thing
that makes you realize that somebody's not good
in your life. You don't say, I'm going to fucking
kill that person. Yeah, but you're saying if
they worship the wrong god, they're just going
to go to hell. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying
that. I'm saying that my book and my religion
says that. Personally, I don't think that God
is this wrathful being that gets tossed around
in some of these things. The reason why I'm a
Catholic and the reason why I do this, right,
is because I think that Catholicism is the closest
that we got. I don't think it's 100 % right on
the head. I think every single religion on the
planet, including Islam, including Mormonism
and fucking all this other bullshit, I think
that each one of them has little pieces of a
bigger picture. We can never see the full picture
because we are not God. We can only see the fractured
pieces of it. The reason why I'm a Catholic,
the reason why I'm a Christian, the reason why
I believe what I believe is because I think that
they have the biggest piece of the puzzle that
we can see right now. And when I'm looking at
the pieces of the puzzle and I'm looking at the
pieces that Catholicism put together, I'm like,
that's the piece that I can see right now. That's
the closest that I see right now. And guess what?
I think in the puzzle, there's pieces that were
thrown in there by mistake or by nefarious forces
that I would call demons or stuff like that,
that people can connect and they're seeing a
completely different picture. That's the picture
that God doesn't want you to see. God wants you
to live a life that's good. He wants you to live
a life that is prosperous and good, but there's
other forces out there that are also working
against you. I thought you were supposed to fear
God. You're never supposed to fear. But people
say I'm a God -fearing Christian. Yes, because
they got the wrong pieces in there. They have
the wrong religion. No, Casey, listen to me.
Can I fucking finish something? That was a rage
bait comment. That was a rage bait comment. You
know what he fucking meant. Do Christians not
say I'm a God fearing Christian? KZ, I do got
to interject here because your last question
when he was going on the rant about like how
just being a good person is integral to humanity.
Your throwback at that was like, oh, but you
go to hell if you're not Christian. In that moment,
Tyler was definitely arguing just on the. on
behalf that there's a higher power. I don't think
he was going down the Catholic or Christian or
any religion road there. I think he was just
trying to back up the innate being, more like
what Dan was saying about the innate being of
a higher power instilled in us. There's got to
be a reason that we feel that we need to be good
people. For example, you can grow up in a broken
household that's not... religious and you can
get nothing, get nothing but shit shoveled down
your throat. And a lot of people will become
bad people because of that upbringing. And there
is that whole moral debate of, are they bad people?
Because they got dealt a shit hand and they kind
of just mimic the beliefs of not mimic the beliefs,
but mimic the behavior they grew up with. But
like, there's also people like without going
in depth, my fiance who had like a fucking horrendous
upbringing, horrendous family life without getting
into specifics there. She somehow still found
a way to be a good human and not lash out at
people and not be a rude person. Like she's one
of the most polite, caring, like would give her
shirt off your, her back to anybody just on the
street beings I've met in my life. And she doesn't
really have a reason to feel that way about life.
Most, I feel like most people would have. been
born into her life and been very hateful and
vindictive and just assholes and not care about
the welfare of others and be incredibly selfish
people. But something in her is, is there that
made her fight through that. And to a lesser
extent, me, I mean, my upbringing wasn't great
either. And I had certain religion and still,
but like, it's like, why, why would that be an
intrinsic fact to humanity? Why, why are we any
different than any other species? That's just
like, Our only objectives are to feed ourselves
and fuck to procreate. But otherwise, we don't
really give a fuck. We kill other species on
a daily basis to do shit. In a lot of cases,
we kill our own species in cannibalism or auto
-cannibalism. we in certain species it's incredibly
common to eat your young like and like that's
that's something that's averaging don't it's
a it's a common thing with pigs and there's there's
another term for it i can't remember what it's
called it's uh what's what's it called i thought
it was something side it's something side patricide
no patricide's uh father but it's something side
it's whatever it's one of those yeah yeah but
like that's something that we That intrinsic
thing is not with us. And what's the one thing
that separates us from the rest of the species
on this planet? I'm not necessarily backing up
any argument here, but we're the only beings
that we're aware of that are self -aware. We're
the only ones that recognize that we have a consciousness
that are like. That we recognize the cycle of
life and death and we're intelligent enough to
process that. Yeah, but do you not see animals
having compassion for each other, for other species?
It's very rare. It's very rare. Would your dog
fucking risk its life to defend you? Most dogs
would if you train them correctly, yeah. Because
they have a loyalty to you because you train
that in them. And they're also, they are on the
higher end of intelligence. Dude, I saw a video
of a fucking lion and a fucking, what's one of
those small dogs? Chihuahua? No, like a hot dog.
Oh, beagle, wiener. Yeah, wiener schnitzel. A
fucking lion and a wiener schnitzel were like
best friends. And they had to take the wiener
schnitzel away because they were afraid the lion
was going to hurt it. And the lion didn't eat
at all. So they had to bring the fucking dog
back. Yeah, I'm not saying that there's not exceptions
to that. But it's for the most part rare. But
also, on the other end of the spectrum, even
though we still consider those beings like...
very dumb compared to us, which I mean, I guess
kind of, they are like still most mammals are
on like the more brainiac side of creatures,
like both lions and, and dogs are both like,
definitely like in the bag. 90th percentile of
intelligence of most life we have on this planet
if not much higher than that like elephants do
you see them that they have grief elephants are
one of the only other known creatures that we
know of that performs like funerals or like funeral
like activity when somebody dies they attempt
to not necessarily bury them but like i think
they do have like they try to cover yeah they're
dead and they're intelligent and they can understand
what death is exactly but still intelligence
doesn't explain that like why just because you're
smarter why do you care about that like i guess
i guess that's what tyler's argument dan's argument
on the topic of death on on things like that
if if what you what what the the atheistic way
of looking at it is they're dead you're never
going to see them again it's it's over they're
gone Why do you care? Why do you care? You're
never going to see them again. You're just going
to be in that box, too, and you're going to be
in the everlasting darkness of nothingness. Well,
I care because I have feelings and memories.
Yeah, I was going to say, you can't give that
as a blanket term for atheists. No, but what
I'm saying is, why would I want to believe in
something that every single... It's not about
what you want to believe. It's about what's true.
If it's not about what you want to believe! You
can believe whatever you want to believe, but
the truth is something separate. This is wild
because every other time I have been like 100
% on Casey's side. I'm sorry. I'm not trying
to turn my back on you, but Tyler's making some
good points. If it's not about what you believe,
at least to me, it's always science first. We
have to look at the science. We have to do this.
There's so many things in fucking science that
just point to a fucking something designing it.
Like, there's the rules of the universe. What
made the rules of the universe? There's things
that you can't do. Like, you can't, like, actively
break the rules of the universe because you can't
do it. It feels like there were rules created
for us that a higher power put into the fabric
of this universe that was created. It had to
make rules in order to confine itself. Everything
that has rules and stuff like that, AI, like
we're talking about, we make rules for AI to
stay in itself and to confine it. It doesn't
necessarily work. And look at what people keep
trying to do. We keep trying to fucking make
dark matter and shit. We keep trying to fucking
tear open wormholes and shit. We're trying to
break the rules that were laid out for us. Now
you're losing me, Tyler. I'll be honest there.
I don't fucking care. I'm never here to convince
anybody. I'm just saying this shit. You made
a solid argument for things I already believe,
but you actually put them in a way that was very
good. The whole thing with it doesn't matter
what you believe. It just matters what the truth
is. Why are you right? What makes you right?
What makes me right? But I do want to rephrase
this because I know the rant you're going to
go on. Not against Catholicism, but against the
higher power. I feel like that's a distinction
we need to make because you've poked a million
holes in Catholicism. But against the higher
power, what's the argument against that? You
always say that I have to prove why God is real
to you in order for you to believe it. What can
you do to prove that God isn't real to me? But
that's the thing is that... You can't. You can't,
Casey. You also can't prove that there's not
a flying spaghetti monster because there's a
small chance that there could be. But you always
put me on the spot to say, prove to me that God's
real. And when I try to put you on the spot here,
you're like, I can't prove that there is no God.
But there's nothing that you can see or hear
or taste or feel or smell that you can say that
that's evidence for God. Yeah, there is evidence
for God. What I was just saying, the innate ability
to care for somebody, loving your significant
other, especially when you have a kid, loving
that kid, it just comes to you naturally. That's
not from religion. That's from being human. God
made us as humans. So why do I, as an atheist,
have morals? Why am I a good person? Because
you were born innate with them from God. It doesn't
matter if you're an atheist. You are still born
with that innate thing because God put it in
you. But according to you, I have no motivation
to be a good person because I don't believe in
God. You shouldn't have motivation to be a good
person if you're an atheist. There's no reason
to have that motivation. So then why am I still
motivated to be a good person? Because you still
believe a little bit in you. No, it's not because
I believe in God. It's not because... No. You
think... I know every single person out there
who's a staunch atheist, there's still a fucking
little thing in the back of their mind of what
if. What if there is a God? What if there is
not? Is there not something in your mind that
says what if there's no God? There's always something
in the back of my mind that says that there is
no God. But guess what? I constantly find new
reasons to think that there is God. I literally
admit that. I go out to the Adirondacks and I
look at those fucking mountains and I see that's
beautiful. The creator had such a beautiful paintbrush
that he created all of this. The way that nature
is, the way that the universe is, the way that
humans are, it's like it was made by a fucking
artist. There's so many things and so many ways
that things are. It just looks like there was
an artist that created all of this. But I'm admitting
there's a small possibility of anything. Just
like I think you should admit that there's a...
I've never, I've never disadmitted that there's
a possibility that there is no God. I think there
is, but there's a possibility that there is none.
And I say that all the fucking time. I'm saying
that there's a small possibility, right, that
there's a higher power, but I just think it's
infinitely small. I think it's infinitely small
that there is no God. The more that I research
it, the more that I do this, the feeling that
you get from waking up next to your wife, there's
a feeling that you get from seeing your family
members, from seeing your friends, from seeing
you guys. These feelings that don't come from
neurotransmitters, that don't come from anything.
There's something innate in us. There's something
that's in us that makes you want to have that
human connection. That makes you want to have
that feeling. That makes you want to have all
this. Fucking Dan holding his cat. That's another
thing. It's a connection that you can't have
if you don't have that innate ability in you.
Well, I think there still could be something
more than just this life. And you could, you
know, want to see. Then why would you want to?
It doesn't necessarily mean that there's a God
that created it. Even if there's, you know, a
life, something that's going to happen after
your death, where you still have a consciousness.
Casey, why would you want to believe anything
else? But it's not about what I want to happen,
though. You're too stubborn to think. that there's
another thing out there that you're wrong. You
want to be right so much that you're willing
to throw away everything that's been given to
you through this life. I don't want to be right.
I'm just being realistic. But the whole thing
there is you're just like, well, why do you believe?
I think it would be easier if we knew God was
real. That's the whole point of faith. If you
go to heaven. That's the whole point of faith,
Casey. It's believing without seeing. And Jesus
talks about that constantly. His apostles were
able to see his miracles. We weren't, right?
The whole thing is the whole leap of faith. It's
just having the guts to make that leap of faith.
And it's just like, you know what? If I'm wrong,
I have egg on my face. Okay. Okay, that's the
end. All right. I was wrong. I have the guts
to take a stand and be like, you know what? I
do believe in that. And I have the innate ability
to understand that I could be wrong and everything
that I believe could be wrong. And the fact that
I'm still able to be like, I'm still going to
believe that there is a God and there is something
out there for me. I feel like that is the faith
is having the guts to do that. Um, I feel like
even if I, you know, admitted, even if I joined
like the Catholic or Christian faith and I'm
not telling you to do that. Yeah. But even if
I did, like there would be, I like know how I
feel in my mind and I would be like, I don't
actually believe in God. Like even if I'm giving
up my faith and like believe in all this shit,
there's still going to be a big part of me that
doubts it. There's a come to God moment, I feel,
in most people's lives. You either run into it
early, you run into it late. I feel like there's
a moment in your life where you see God in something.
Maybe Allie Mack will see it in his kid the first
time that he looks at his kid in the eyes. Yeah,
maybe I just need to do DMT, is the thing. I
feel like we have... Not be the dead horse here,
but I feel like we have reached the conclusion
of that. I feel like we've lost Dan a little
bit here. I'd just like to add a little... Never
mind, we're back in. I think it's so obvious
what humans are here for. We're here to learn
lessons. It's like, if you go to learn to fly
a helicopter, they say, go and learn how to fly
a fixed -wing plane first. Because helicopters
are notoriously hard to fly. I hate them in fucking
flight simulator. Yeah, they're really hard.
But they say go get 20 hours of flight time in
fixed wing first and then come to helicopters.
That's like usually what flight schools tell
you to do. I think you can legally go straight
to helicopter, but generally they tell you to
go get fixed wing hours because you don't have
to focus on flying the aircraft. You can learn
the instruments and it's just a lot easier. So
I think the reason that we're here is... We're
learning how to operate. We're learning how things
operate. It's like elementary school. Before
you go on to another grade, you learn things
in this realm. And I think it's like some things
are just so obvious. You have to learn about
loss. You have to learn about pain, suffering,
sacrifice. There's just lessons that are built
into this life. Very well put. We take care of
nature. We take care of the earth while we're
here. That's just... I mean, look at the native
Americans. They knew that without all of them
across all of the Americas knew that, that that
was the role. Like if you kill an animal, use
every part of it, you humanly can. Right. Yeah.
And they, they respected nature and that's what
we're supposed to do. And when we don't do that,
it's like, we know that something's wrong innately.
That's built into us. Right. Like when we harm
an animal, most people, not all people, some
people don't mind, but. I remember just feeling
like a piece of shit like kicking over an anthill
I did that all the time as a kid and then I grew
up and now I'm like the motherfucker where like
when I find a spider inside of the station I
like grab it with a cup and let it outside same
and I don't know where I don't know when that
change occurred to me I always used to be somebody
who killed a spider and I'm not even like a religious
guy and I'm still like it just feels wrong like
ending a being's entire existence for no fucking
reason like I feel horrible that I used to do
that as a kid like we look at We think like,
oh man, like in this situation, I wish there
was just a God to help me. It's like, well, you
know, in a way you are the God to something else.
And it's like, wouldn't you want your life to
be protected? Like we have the ability to protect
something else's life that looks at us like a
God, right? So in that role with the spider,
you're God and you're protecting it. I think
this was all just a simulation. That's a rage
bait. Don't buy who. I talked about this. There
is no evidence to prove against it. I think that
we're all just playing a VR game. I talked about
this several times on the animal thing. I talked
about when I had to shoot a squirrel or it would
drown. It was either the squirrel drowned or
I shot it. I still to this day, remember pulling
that trigger on it. Yeah, you should, because
you should have jumped in and got the squirrel
out. Sounds like you just shot a fucking squirrel,
Tyler. That's like 10 years in purgatory. You're
fucked, bro. But as a person that's lived longer
and done that, I see the several different things
that I could have done in that situation, but
I actively pulled the trigger and ended something's
life. in that in that moment and the i still
feel guilt to this day it was fucking almost
15 like maybe 17 years ago but like the like
i vividly remember that like it was a it was
a watershed moment in my life being like that
was I ended another living things life. And you're
supposed to as a human. There's chemicals in
your brain that make you feel bad when you kill
other things. It's not all chemicals though,
bro. That's the thing. I gotta say. We think
you can answer everything with just saying it's
neurotransmitters, but it's so much more complicated
than that. Bro, even when I, as an example, he
was talking about seeing the Adirondacks, right?
That means a lot to him. When I go to Greece,
I physically feel something. Right. Like in my
heart, like that, I can't describe. Right. And
when I come home, feeling that feeling go away
is like, it's like a portal, a portal in time
is closing. It's so emotional, dude. It's brought
tears to my eyes. I got to say that. Sorry. I
didn't mean to cut you off. No, no. It's just,
there's some things where it's like, like I can
feel my ancestors that have been there. I can
physically feel them. And it's in my heart. Like
that's, that's not just neurotransmitters, bro.
You know, it's not just like, oh yeah, it's,
you know, my dopamine is wearing off because
I'm home from vacation. I just wanted to say
one thing. I mean, yeah. I think the coolest.
It could be though. The coolest thing I think.
No, it's not though. It's like, it's a spiritual
connection. And this is why no matter how separated
you are from, you know, secular society, right?
You, people always come back to God. They always
come back to religion, right? Not a he or a she,
just there is some higher being. And people,
when they get disconnected from that, whatever
that is, things go wrong. It's like a pathology.
Even with AA, one of the first things they tell
you is you have to believe. You have to surrender
to a higher power. You have to. Otherwise, it's
like you're going to make something else your
God. Well, because people say without religion,
we have no reason to be good people. We have
no reason to be lawful people. It doesn't necessarily
have to be religion, though. There's a difference
between religion and believing in a higher power,
though. But Tyler's saying, why don't we have
morals if we don't have religion? I'm more saying
if there is no God, there is no morals. I just
wanted to say the one thing I wanted to say that
just kind of drives home the point, which is
it kind of blew me away how much it impacted
me because it's something I don't think would
have a couple years to go. I was washing down
my rig at the end of a shift and there was like
a moth that got right in the way of like the
stream of like the, the hose I was using. And
it was all like frantically like spazzing to
death, like in the fucking water. And I like
picked it up with like a, I can't even remember
how I picked it up. I think I used like a paper
towel or something. Oh no, I used like a little
piece of plastic and I got it off and then I
left it on. like a chair underneath a lamp and
I was doing all this research like on moths and
I was like, is this thing dead? And it's like,
no, they kind of play dead and it might've drowned,
but honestly kind of by assistance of AI, I'll
fully admit. And I was like, I kind of like set
it up in a spot where it's like moths get waterlogged.
It's really easy for water to like get fucked
up in their wings and shit. And then like my
partner saw me do that. I didn't say anything
to him. He's like, what are you doing? It was
like, I just, I feel like, actually like horrible
that I just sprayed this thing with it. And I
wasn't as gentle as I could have been to like
get it out of the water, even though I tried
to be, but I could have taken more care to get
it out. So I was really worried. I like fucked
its leg up or something, but I got it out of
the water and I left it on this chair underneath
a lamp on this piece of plastic. And I was working
with the same partner the next day. And after
I told him all this stuff, I was like, dude,
if that moth is gone by tomorrow and it like
got itself off of that thing. I am just going
to be so happy tomorrow that like I made that
decision and I like tried to get it out of there.
And I came in, we both got into work at the same
time. And the first thought on both me and his
mind was like, is that moth? All right. And we
went out moth. Wasn't on the. moth wasn't on
the seal so it's got the piece of plastic rather
so it uh got up and it flew away and me and him
were like pumped we gave each other a hug like
we borderline we and i'm not even like regular
partners with this guy but he like we got into
like this deep philosophical talk at the end
of it about like how I just felt like shit about
it. It's like, yeah, I would too. Like you didn't
do anything wrong. You didn't see it, but you
did everything you could after the fact, but
like, let's hope it's not dead. And just the
fact that it didn't die the next day, we were
both just like, fuck. Yeah, man. Like, fuck.
Yeah. But you probably hit 10 of them on the
way driving. Yeah. And I thought about that too,
but it's like you, those are things. And that
brings a deeper philosophical question of like,
where's the line because the world that we're
born into no matter what we are part of this
machine that like if you want to be self -sufficient
right off the rip is like a child you can't really
be unless you're born into a family that takes
ridiculous care to not harm anything but like
if you're fucking like ordering amazon packages
you're harming the environment if you go to the
grocery store and you buy pretty much anything
in the grocery store something had to pay for
it at some point like we're all part of like
this industrial nightmare that kind of destroys
our planet to a certain extent I kind of wanted
to go off of Dan's thing where he said that like
when he was in Greece like he felt like that
there's moments where I do apologize boys I don't
know if I'm going to be able to make Jeopardy
tonight I might have to head out soon I'm probably
going to head out soon too but there's a moment
when you go to a place like you would go to Greece
I would go like to the Adirondacks and I'm just
standing there And you get that feeling, and
I'm sure that you can associate this with, like,
Greece and stuff, but for me, I'm standing on
top of a mountain in the Adirondacks looking
out over, like, Lake George, just seeing everything.
And you just get the feeling that, you know,
everything is going to be all right. There's
not that doubt in you that you have all the time.
Like, you just look at it and you're like, you
know what? Everything's going to be all right.
And, like, that's one of the things that, like,
I can see, I can feel God in is, like, when,
like, you're standing there, And you're looking
down at a place that you find a spiritual connection
with, for lack of a better term. And you're just
standing there and you look out and you get that
like just overwhelming feeling of calm and overwhelming
feeling of just this is where you're supposed
to be right now. And you get that just like everything's
going to work out. Like you don't have to worry
as much as you think you do. Everything will
work out eventually. And like it's it's it's
moments. It's small moments and small human moments
like that. Like I also go on vacation to Maine
every year. And when I sit down on the on the
the the there's the beach at night looking out
at the moon and I can see the lighthouse all
the way out there just spinning when it's light.
And you just go. It's those moments when you
can take a breath, look back, and be like, with
all the chaos in this world, with all the bad
things that happened, with all this other shit,
you can look out and go, you know what? Things
are going to be all right. And that's where I
feel God, is when you can take back, sit there,
take in that place that's important to you. And
I feel like God laid out that place specifically
for the person and being like, you know what
when you're sitting there and you can feel that
everything's going to be all right eventually
yeah and that's a i feel like that's a really
powerful thing and that's a really interesting
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You get 21 % off. What? How much are you making
pimping out our podcast? We actually were making
a lot recently. Dude, we could have made so much
more if I connected it. Because there's a spot
in threads that says connect your podcast. So
when people look at your profile. Bro, we would
have had like fucking 100 new viewers. They think
they're going to get fired. Huh? They think they're
going to get fired. Yeah, I probably would get
fired for half the shit that I've said. I mean,
that's okay. I mean, we're about to not have
jobs, so we don't care. Well, I mean, I don't,
so I don't give a fuck. I'm off the grid, dude.
Yeah, exactly. Couldn't give two shits. Gents,
I apologize. I'm going to have to take off here.
Oh, man. I'm going to probably head out, too.
I got to work tomorrow. Unlike. All right, Dan
wins Jeopardy. What's that? Dan wins Jeopardy,
my people. Fuck yeah. Yeah, Dan wins. We can
all stay and talk to Casey about some geopolitical
shit for a little bit. Fuck yeah. I'll listen
tomorrow. Yeah, you guys will get angry at each
other. I gotta get home to the wifey. 1230. Oh,
that's not bad. I gotta work in fucking seven
hours. I don't even remember what that's like.
Thank you for the nicotine pouches, Tyler. It's
just a reminder that there's a higher power that
you cared enough to get. Oh, fuck it. No, you
can take... I'm leaving that one here. You want
a nicotine pouch? Oh, fuck yeah, dude. What's
going on right now? These are so... Tyler's fucking
vaping and drinking. He got me into it, dude.
Dude, these are good. Holy shit. It's the Tucker
Carlson ones, man. Yeah. Fuck yeah. No, I'd be
down to do Jeopardy, like, tomorrow night or
something if we, like, call in for it or something.
I just... I gotta get home now. Alright, we'll
take a break. We'll be back. Welcome back to
the party, my guy. Episode 129. Back with Dan.
129 episodes. Hell yeah. We got quite a collection
now. I know. We're going to get to 200 soon.
What if some company was like, we'll give you
$250 ,000 each. They're just going to buy us
out? They're going to buy us out. $250 ,000 for
each person on the podcast. Well, how are they
going to buy us out? We have to keep doing it.
No, but they want to buy our whole collection.
What we made already. We have to keep... We get...
Okay, we get... I'll fucking take the money.
I'll start a new podcast. We each get 10 grand
per episode after that. So they buy the whole
previous collection for a million dollars. I
mean, at that point, that seems like that's a
deal that's not in our favor because it seems
like it could blow up more. No, no. What if it
was 10 ,000... $10 ,000 per episode. I'd take
the deal. But we did four episodes a month. So
we each got... $40 ,000. No, no, no. We wouldn't
each get $40 ,000. That's too much. What if it
was $2 ,500 each per episode? Each person per
episode. So $10 ,000 for the whole crew. $40
,000 split between the four of you. $10 ,000
a month each. Would you do it full -time? yeah
10 grand a month that's better than i'm making
now yeah i would do it well fuck yeah that's
like yeah that's probably what 300 000 a year
no 10 grand a month 10 grand a month no it's
gotta be like 120 000 yeah that's not bad no
i would do it i'd quit my job and do it damn
so here's what i was saying uh back when we were
talking about uh the venezuela thing was that
uh trump actually met with bb like last week
or something and shook his hand i'm like we had
the opportunity to kidnap this dictator who committed
a genocide but we didn't do it yeah but the difference
is is that he's our ally dude Like, Israel's
an ally of ours. They shouldn't be, though. He
shook his hand, and you know what else he did?
He gave him $10 million because we give Israel
about $10 million a day. Did he hand him over
$10 million? Well, we do that every single day.
Okay, did he do that personally? Did Trump hand
him $10 million? Well, he wrote him a check.
Did he? Did he sign a check, Donald J. Trump?
Well, it's automatic that $10 million a day goes
to Israel. Right. No, he didn't hand him $10
million. He didn't arrest him either for war
crimes. The thing is, right, there's two sides
to every story. Hamas came in and killed, what
was it, 1 ,200 people in one shot, one clip?
Yeah, they kill each other. So they said, fuck
these people. Dude, I have a theory, actually.
This whole thing with Greenland. I think they're
looking for a place for the Palestinians. I'm
dead serious because there's nowhere else you
can put them. Egypt's not going to take them.
Nobody wants them. So they literally look around
the map. I swear to God, bro. Like sometimes
I make shit up and then it ends up coming true.
I made it. I do. All right. So I made a post
after my one that went viral. I made another
post that said we're going to buy Greenland from
Denmark for $10 billion and we're going to give
each citizen. $500 ,000 out of the tariff fund,
right? The next day, today, Trump comes out and
says, we're going to give each citizen of Greenland
$100 ,000. It's like, dude. So sometimes the
things you make up, they deleted that post that
I posted, by the way. They took it down. It was
up to like 13 ,000 views and they cut. Oh, like
he's going to buy Greenland and give money to
the people? Yeah. Yeah, but I was joking and
I made a post saying that the next day they came
out and said that. So you can almost they're
almost so dumb that you can guess what they're
doing. Right. Like, dude, there is a high probability
that if you just think about geopolitics in the
frame of how does this affect Israel? Like, how
does buying Greenland affect Israel? They probably
looked at the map and they're like, well, where
the fuck can we put these people? We've got to
get them the fuck away from Israel. So they're
looking around the map and they're like, what's
this chunk of land here? Who lives there? Fucking
nobody. Let's fucking put them there. Dude, we're
saying that this is like, you know, this is all
about securing like resources in the Arctic.
The Arctic are like fighting Russia. Intercontinental
ballistic missile placement. Dude, it's about
fucking shoving the Palestinians there. They're
going to shove them in fucking Greenland. They'll
be like, here's your fucking new homeland. That's
fucked up because they're fucking desert people.
You just throw them in fucking Iceland. I mean,
dude, you know, black people live up here. So,
you know, they're fine. No, they're probably
cold. They're probably real cold. They all have
like six packs, like indefinitely, you know?
Yeah. So they're like, they don't have a lot
of body fat percentage. I don't know. Megan's
always cold. Is she? Yeah. I'm always cold too,
though. But yeah, dude, I really think they're
going to try and shove the Palestinians there.
That's my guess. You heard it here first, folks.
That theory, nobody else has come here. Actually,
I should make a post on. I got to be careful.
I don't want to get offed. Dude, you know how
bad it would look if we fucking got into a war
with Denmark? We're not going. It wouldn't be
a war. It would be a war because they said they're
going to defend Greenland. They're going to shoot
first, ask questions later. Well, dude, we need
that land. But it's not ours to take. But they're
not doing anything with it, dude. They're doing
the same thing that we're going to do with it.
They're not doing jack shit, dude. What is Denmark
going to fucking do with Greenland? What are
we going to do with Greenland? Bro, we would
have it conquered by the time they even got a
boat there. Like, they don't even fucking...
It's like, bro, we need that shit, bro. We run
shit, dude. No, I'm just joking. My actual take...
is like what the fuck is going on that's my actual
day but just to get people fired up i just i
just try and play the i literally on twitter
i changed my name to the imperialist and i started
doing all the same posts that i'm doing on threads
you're just doing what you did back when trump
first got elected i'm having so much fun it's
just that it is great it's just a great political
environment as long as you're having fun you
know as a 35 year old man I love it. Just getting
into rage baiting with people on the internet.
It'll never get old. It'll never get old. That
could be your new full -time job. I know. Dude,
if I could monetize it, God, I would. That was
a bucket list thing, though, to go viral. It's
soft viral. True viral is over a million. 400
,000 is soft viral. Yeah, man. Going to war with
Denmark, it'll be, if we take Greenland, NATO's
over. That's it. It's done. No more NATO. No.
But, you know, I was going to make a post saying
that NATO is racist and that North Atlantic is
just code word for white people. And, dude, that
would fucking, if that went around, that would
be another one that would go viral. I just don't
have the heart to do it because then if NATO
crumbles, I feel like I would have had some part
in it. I don't know. North, North Atlantic is
a, that's a lot of white people. That is all
white people. And as a matter of fact, it's like,
what is Turkey doing in the North Atlantic treaty
organization? Turkey. Turkey. Yeah. What is,
why, why is, I mean, you know, not that I'm bashing
it. Well, I mean, Ukraine wants to be in it.
Right. And then we say, oh, well it's North Atlantic.
It's like, okay, so why aren't there any African
countries in it? It's not really a North Atlantic
anymore. It's not, but that's our excuse for
not letting Japan in because it's North Atlantic.
Well, why would we want Japan to be in? I mean,
it didn't go well in the 1940s. Dude, because
they're one of our best allies right now. Japan
is one of our best allies. Yeah, but you can't
really trust them. Dude, what do you mean you
can't trust them? They're fucking fantastic.
Did you forget World War II? Bro, we're allies
with Germany. Did we forget World War II? Yeah,
I know. It's like, you can, like, be friends
with them and, like, have them commit military
to us, but you gotta, like, keep in the back
of your mind, like, you know, if they get out
of control, this is what's gonna happen. Dude,
that was, like, 70 years ago. Yeah, but... No,
how long ago was it? 40, so... 80 years. 80 years.
Like, dude, they're good. It's like, That's long
past. That's water under the bridge. They can
be an ally. But it's like, why is Turkey in the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization but Japan
isn't? I think... Why do we draw the line at
fucking... It's literally we draw the line at
white people being in the treaty. Right. We stop
at Africa. It's like, dude, literally, we don't
have one African nation in the treaty. There's
not really any Asian countries in it. Right.
It's racist. Yeah. It's racist. And I really
think another reason that Trump might be going
for Greenland is he wants to break NATO because
he's fucking sick of it. He's sick of people
not paying their fair share. The United States
foots the bill for the entire thing. So he's
like, fine. Or, one, he either wants to break
NATO. All right, we'll start from the top. He
either wants to find a place for the Palestinians,
a place to shove these people. He wants to break
NATO. Or he wants to show the NATO allies that,
Look, if somebody was threatening you, there's
no way you could defend yourself. Why would you
want to break NATO? That's 30 % of our fucking
troops that we have in alliance that we would
be losing. Because it doesn't serve a purpose
anymore. But the United States is basically the
leader of NATO. Right. And so if we're footing
the bill for everything, it's kind of like, hey,
man, we're all going to go in on dinner, right?
There's 10 people. We're all going to chip in.
The United States is paying 80 % of it, of dinner,
right? Like, I mean, you're paying 80 % of it,
right? Like, that's not fair to the person paying
80%. You're like, this is kind of a shitty deal
for me, right? Why do the American taxpayers,
like, we're in $38 trillion of debt. Why are
we bankrolling defense for all of Europe? I don't
know. Why are we giving $10 million a day to
Israel? Right, like, why are we doing any of
this shit? Like, let's fucking cut it off. If
I became president, I would say all of our aid
to Israel is done. Like, we're done being allies
with Israel. I know. And then they just pull
out of the banking sector and let the country
collapse. They got us by the balls, dude, in
that regard. They really do. Yeah, dude, I think
NATO's on the brink. It's on the brink of collapsing.
It's funny because this new game just came out
called Battlefield 6 and it's about NATO and
Russia or whatever you call it fighting like
World War 3 and it's just interesting because
you fucking fight the Russians. It's like what's
actually going to happen probably in a few years.
I don't think it's going to happen. No, I think
it is. Dude, I saw Sorry, I didn't mean to cut
you off. I just thought of something. I don't
know if you heard about the seizure of the ships,
the oil tankers. Yeah, we took the Venezuela
oil tanker that was going to Russia. Yeah, yeah.
Well, there was one we took initially, and then
we took a second one. And that second one we
took, dude, that was fucking... That was one
of the most insane things if you watch a video
on how it was done. It's one of the most insane
military operations that was executed so strategically.
It's like the United States has had 20 years
of practice in actual war, 20 years of fucking
practice. And we've perfected war. Like it's
not, maybe not perfected, but we're fucking,
we're the empire dude. And, um, if you watch
a video on how this was done, I mean, we had
airplanes drop sonar buoys. into the water surrounding
the russian submarine so we could track exactly
where it was and we took the ship while it was
being guarded by a nuclear sub like we knew we
knew it was there and we stopped it basically
in like north uh what is that it's that's the
arctic above like above alaska it was on it was
like off the coast of alaska further out though
like more above canada i'm pretty sure that's
where they got the arctic ocean yeah it was just
such a Such a perfectly executed operation. Perfectly
executed stealing. Yeah, but it's not theft really,
dude, because they're not supposed to be transporting
it there anywhere. They're sanctioned. Well,
they're not supposed to be transporting it there
when we control their country. I mean, they could
do whatever they fucking want if we're not imperializing
their country. Yeah, we're not really doing that,
though. Like, dude, we had... Our oil company
set up infrastructure there when we were friendly
with Venezuela. And then the socialist regime
kicked us out. So they kicked everybody out after
we paid for oil infrastructure. It was probably
in the tens of billions of dollars. Maybe hundreds
of billions of dollars. But they were trying
to change the name of the ship and route to its
destination. And they changed the flag. And then
Russia registered the ship under their country.
So they changed it to a Russian ship en route.
So while it was being tracked by Americans. But
yeah, that was insane. That right there, though,
that's close to war. I mean, when you're tracking
nuclear subs, dude. That's some dangerous stuff.
Yeah. They had a nuke on the sub? Venezuela has
nukes? No, no, no. It was Russian. The Russians
were protecting it. God, it's such a ballsy move,
though. They boarded the ship. Think about this.
They boarded the ship from Black Hawk Helicopters
while there was a nuclear sub behind it. They
said, yeah, go fuck yourself. We're taking it.
You know? And they could have just blown it up
with the nuclear sub. I think it's nuclear in
the way that it's powered by nuclear energy.
I mean, a lot of them are capable of carrying
intercontinental ballistic missiles with nukes
on them. But I don't think that's what qualifies
it as a nuclear sub. It's nuclear because it's
powered by nuclear energy. So it has an infinite
range. Well, I mean, we invaded their country.
Next step is we got to take their oil. yeah i
mean why not yeah it's the right thing to do
fucking um dick cheney and uh charlie kirk feel
bad that they're not around for this they would
have loved a war for oil yeah i mean dick cheney
for sure he'd be salivating i really want to
know what george bush thinks of like the fucking
venezuela thing oh he probably fucking loves
it right right he's probably like he's like oil
oh Dude, he gets it. I wish that guy would come
out of the closet once in a while. Well, not
the closet, but maybe the closet. I wish he'd
just come out once in a while and pipe up. He
doesn't like Trump because he's one of the OG
Washington, D .C. swamp creatures. Yeah. I mean,
he ruined the Republican Party. George Bush?
No, Trump did. No, no, no. I'm saying... I'm
saying George Bush is one of the swamp creatures.
I think he's just like a classic Republican.
Yeah. And I think he probably thinks Trump just
ruined the party. Yeah, I mean, he did, but maybe
it needed to be ruined. Yeah. I think it needs
to be ruined, so that way... it can destroy itself
and it doesn't exist anymore. I think both sides
are doing this. I don't think it's very beneficial
to have conservatives in society. I mean, I think
I was just talking about this with somebody on
threads yesterday. They're like, I'm a moderate
and all the liberals think I'm mega. I don't
get it. Like I'm in the middle. It's how I feel
sometimes when talking to extremists on either
side is like, if you're, like supporting middle
ideas and you're just extremist to them. Right.
It's like these Canadian people I was fighting
with. I'm like, dude, you're talking to somebody
that's for gun control and drives a Toyota Prius.
Like, I don't think you, I don't think you really
know who you're talking to. You know, like I,
I'm not MAGA. Like everybody can't be MAGA. I
don't even own a MAGA hat like this one right
here. Yeah. You know? I own a MAGA hat. I guess
I'm more MAGA than you. You're more MAGA than
I am, bro. Damn. That's fucking weird. I asked
this lady I was fighting with. I was like, can
I still visit Canada after this post? And she's
like, yeah, just don't wear your stupid hat.
I'm like, I don't own one, so we're good. I mean,
if you're having people threaten to invade your
country. You're going to be defensive of it.
Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't blame him, but
it's now, you know, now or never. Sooner or later,
it's going to happen. You got to do what you
got to do. Yeah. All right. We're up to over
three hours. Thanks for listening to Untitled
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something. What? I'm dozing off. Did you guys
talk about the lady getting shot in the face?
Yeah, that's what we were debating in the first
hour with Kyle. What do you think about that?
Well, do you want my liberal perspective? My
Republican perspective? Or my moderate perspective?
Why don't we just get your true opinion? I think
that they were both wrong. I don't think I would
end somebody's life over that. No, because she
wouldn't even have hit him. She was turning the
wheel. Oh, no, she did hit him. Well, no, but
she was turning the wheel all the way to the
right. So, first and foremost, she should have
stopped. She shouldn't have been turning the
wheel at all. Well, she was fleeing. She wasn't
trying to run over an officer. Well, I mean,
she did, though. So he can't see the wheels.
He doesn't know what she's doing. He just knows
that she's driving at him. But she didn't injure
him. Well, you don't know that. He got hit by
a car. He didn't get hit, though. He probably
got hit in the arm with a mirror or something.
No, he actually got pushed. But she was in a
parked position. Yeah. So the most that she could
have been going was like five miles an hour.
Taking off from a parked position. I've run from
the police. And I'm glad they didn't shoot me.
Right? I don't think somebody's life deserves
to end because they ran from the police. Yeah.
You know? So, yeah, I think that wasn't good.
That was fucked up. Yeah. It's the modern day
SS. No, it's not. It really is. They're enforcing
the law. Until they murder people. That, you
know, are just trying to flee. Yeah, just trying
to flee. Yeah, we can live on that. All right.
I'm good with it. Thanks for listening. Email
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be kind to yourselves. And each other. We out.
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people out there with some really dumb thoughts.
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come from? Where the fuck did Stonehenge come
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born babies and sell them to the Chinese. Alien
races. somewhere in China, in some base, there
are super soldiers that are at least 9 or 10
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