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Podcast. Episode 121. Here with Dan and Tyler.
What's up, guys? Fucking special two -episode
week. And it's 9 -11. It's a dark day. Yeah,
it's a dark day. I feel like that music didn't
match the movie. Also, that intro did not match
that at all. What do you want me to play? You
want me to play some fucking Beethoven, some
fucking dark funeral here? It's probably better.
Yeah? You want me to start over? What even is
this? It's Neil Young. Rocking the free world.
Let's go with that. We'll start over. We already
got it, dude. Alright. Wait, wait, hold up. Let
me put on some fucking dark funeral for you.
Yeah. Dark ambient industrial. Hell yeah. Wait,
no, no. Some funeral march. That would be better.
Should I restart it? No, it's fine. It's whatever.
I think it's funny to start off like that. We're
regrettably to tell you that, what's his name?
Charlie Kirk. He died of COVID -19 yesterday.
Yeah, it's terrible to hear. Anyway, it's 9 -11.
It's also 9 -11. I forgot it was 9 -11. It's
a bad day. Dude, that's like the first time.
since 9 -11 that something has been worse than
9 -11. You know what I mean? No, okay. I misspoke.
That was worse than 9 -11? No, no, no, no, no.
Do you know that people got dismembered in 9
-11? People, their bodies just disintegrated,
Dan. No, it's more of the... 2 ,000 people. 2
,900 people. Like, the... You could feel, like
you could hear a pin drop type thing. Yeah. It
was also real weird because I went out a few
times today when I was at work. I had to go get
gas at the gas station. And I had to, I got lunch.
But, like, everybody who looked like they were,
like, a standard, like, blue -collar guy, every
single guy looked like they were just, like,
they weren't there today. Yeah. Like, you know
how, like, normally when you go into, like, stores
or something, people are like, oh, hey, how's
it going? Like, everybody just kind of had, like,
the... I got to keep doing my job type thing.
Like it just, it, it really just, you know, I
feel like we're just going to get right into
it here. It really felt the, the, the loss that,
that we experienced there yesterday really felt
like it's going to, it's, it's going to make
an impact one way or another. Yeah. Something
bigger, something bigger. It's kind of like how
the assassination of Archduke. What is it? Yeah.
That caused like world war one, right? Yeah.
It's like not saying that this is going to cause
a world war, but it definitely shifted something.
You could feel the shift in the, in the, in the
zeitgeist. Imagine what would have happened.
What would have happened if like the shot that
was supposed to hit Trump actually killed him.
Like people would. Oh yeah. It would have been,
it would have been worse. We would be on a different
timeline right now. Yeah. But I, it's just. You
think there would have been a civil war if that
happened? I genuinely think that we're still
on the path with this thing going on. But I think
that if Trump got hit, it would have been a much
more accelerated timeline. yeah um but it was
a fucked up video i mean yeah good thing to watch
like i was just on facebook and people just it's
not censored and like there's no warnings and
shit so my uh my fiance was was sitting on the
couch and she just opened up facebook and that
was the first thing that like just showed up
on a timeline and uh she's she's never seen somebody
die whether in person or like you know like videos
of it And, like, it genuinely affected her. Like,
she was, like, crying about it because she was
like that. And it's a not pleasant video to watch.
I mean, I feel like we're all jaded here. Like,
we've seen actual human beings die in front of
us type thing. But, like, even for us, I guess
at least for me, when I saw it, I was like, that
was a relatively brutal fucking thing, too. It
was a live execution. Yeah. We watched a fucking
execution happen just on the fucking thing. Yeah,
I was saying, like i don't even care of like
politics aside like if you just watch that video
and you're not somehow affected by it and you're
just like celebrating the guy it's just like
sociopathic it's like it's a dude had a dude
had kids dude had a wife dude had a family like
somebody says not democrats versus republicans
like people without humanity Versus like people
still are human. The most devastating thing I
heard about it. And I heard this from several,
several sources. So this wasn't just like a one
-off thing was his wife and kids were there.
And as soon as the shot rang out, as soon as
the shot rang out, his daughter was scared of
the sound and ran towards him. Wow. And that,
that kind of like that, that like hit me like
hard when I heard that. And like, like she's
a, she's just a fucking little girl and her dad
got fucking killed in front of her. Dude. So,
so this is, that's insane because, so let's take
somebody that we know, right? I don't know if
you guys are friends with her, but you know,
we always talk about her. She's very liberal.
She's always spewing some shit on Facebook. That
one actually had the most sensitive. Yeah, that
one surprisingly had the most sensitive one out
of the unhinged takes. I don't have to read her
name, but she said, I have some compassion for
what happened to him and his family. However,
there's the but. There was no but, actually,
but it was implied. No, no, there's a but. His
words cause more harm than good. I will not shed
a tear over someone who's actively making the
world a harder place. No, no, no, no, no, no.
She must've changed it because she said, uh,
what did she say? Oh, his absence brings me peace.
Oh, does it say that? It doesn't say that. Oh
yeah. She said his absence brings me peace. Absence
means death. Okay. His death brings me peace.
That's a, that's an anytime. It's like, okay,
I have compassion, but it's like, no, can you
imagine? What do you, what do you just imagine
for a second? Okay. If it was AOC. And AOC took
a round through the neck and shot out a quart
of blood over her fucking shirt. They fucking
lose it. And I said, I went on Facebook and I'm
like, you know, I have compassion, but I do not
agree with her anything that she said. Yeah,
I don't really agree with her on climate change.
It's like, dude, but nothing. She's dead. Like,
what the fuck? That's fucked up. Her absence
brings me peace. You've never met him. What do
you mean his absence? He's always been absent.
You don't know him. That would be like a Civil
War. Fucking AOC just got domed. The thing was
with this whole thing is the way that I'm looking
at it. I've watched him a lot. I've been subscribed
to Turning Point America since I was in high
school. I've watched him a lot. I didn't agree
with a lot of things that he said, but I appreciated
the way that he would debate anybody. Anybody
could go up and talk to him. I thought that as
a political pundit, for lack of a better term,
that is the best possible way that you could
do it. If you're willing to argue your point
with anybody who brings up their point, and there
was some times when he actually was like, you
got a point. But the thing was with him, he always
tried to make sure the person left them. on a
okay basis. He's just like, well, and then they
get just like, I appreciate you coming up. But
people think he's Jesus. I saw a video of him,
and he actually did insult somebody. He was talking
to this kid, and he was like, oh, do you guys
share a group? All the guys who don't have girlfriends
have a group chat together and they come up with
the same questions. He was a fucking funny guy.
He said funny shit. But he genuinely tried to
have political discourse. He was a negotiator.
The best word for him is he was a negotiator.
But what do you think about the people that are
just... just posting this quote that he said,
that it's worth the cost. Fortunately, some gun
deaths every single year so that we can have
the second amendment to protect our other God
given rights. It's still a bad take like that,
that they're just posting something out of context
with that. Well, he was arguing with somebody
that was saying that like gang violence or something
with like gun deaths and stuff. And he said,
he said that in response to it, this, this is
a, a fucking... He was basically saying that
people are going to... In the context of the
actual thing, he was basically saying people
are going to kill people anyways. I'd rather
have a firearm and be able to protect myself
because they're going to try to kill you either
way. So this was another liberal argument. It
was, if he's okay with his shooting, why shouldn't
I be? He got the day he voted for and campaigned
for and whatever the universe feels he deserved.
He didn't campaign to die. No one campaigns to
die. And back to the thing he said about it's
okay to have a few deaths to preserve the Second
Amendment. It's like, dude, 50 ,000 people a
year die driving on U .S. highways. Do you have
a problem driving your car to work? Or do you
walk? Because we accept that amount of death.
There's a certain amount of risk that's acceptable.
But we've been trying to make... That's what
he's saying. But how much safer are cars now
than in the 70s? We've continuously been trying
to improve it so we don't have any deaths. There's
less gun deaths now than there was in the 70s.
So that's why gun control would be a good idea.
I don't disagree with that. Okay, but there is...
Should we just say that nobody should ever die
from guns ever? Is that the acceptable level
or what? Look what happened in Europe. specifically
London, England. They banned guns and knife crime
is insane. If someone wants to kill you, and
it's a sad thing because this is exactly what
happened here. If somebody wants to kill you,
they're going to find a way to kill you. I don't
think they could have done it, though. They couldn't
have done it without a sniper. They couldn't
have rushed the stage and fought through his
security. No, because he walks through the crowd
and stuff. All it would take is one guy in the
crowd taking a knife and stabbing him in the
throat. Same thing. Look what happened to that
woman on the bus. Don't they have metal detectors
at these events so you can't bring in metal?
No, they don't. The guy that shot him was on
the roof. They don't have metal detectors. They
do have a lot of large gatherings. Yeah, but
these things are meant to be a political discourse.
They don't have fucking metal detectors on fucking
college campuses that go to the fucking quad.
But don't you think that before... Don't you
think that that's a fucking... In a world that
you need metal detectors to have a fucking political
discourse is a fucking world I don't want to
live in. Why should that be a fucking thing that
needs to happen? The problem isn't the gun. The
problem isn't the fucking knife. The problem
is that we would need something like that because
somebody is willing to kill somebody over a difference
in political opinion. That's my problem. That's
where my anger comes from with this. The problem
isn't the fucking gun, Casey. The problem isn't
a knife. The problem isn't a fucking fist. Even
the problem is the fact that somebody would be
willing to kill you for having a difference in
fucking opinion. Yeah, that's so obviously it's
been going on. Like there's been presidents that
have been assassinated before, like in the 1800s.
I think 10 % of presidents have had an assassination
attempt on them. Yeah. Wow. 10%. I mean, there's
only been 47. One in 10. There's been 47, so.
When was the last one that actually was successful?
Oh, JFK. Yeah. JFK, yeah. Jesus. Back then, people
saw that fucking, the first time I saw that,
it was fucked up. His wife trying to grab his
brain. People must have saw that back then and
thought the same thing. It was exactly the same
as what we saw. The same reaction. Worse, dude.
I mean, I heard that it was very sad. A very
sad day. What do you think about the people in
the theater? Just so you see fucking Lincoln
get domed. But the thing was, Lincoln, when he
got domed, people weren't looking at him. They
only saw the aftermath. The problem was with
this. And I genuinely feel for the people who
did not want to see this, did not want it, and
it just kind of got forced on them when they
opened up fucking social media. I get for guys
like us, we're jaded to this shit. Even with
being jaded to this shit, it was still a pretty
intense image. Dude, I've never seen somebody
shoot that much blood out of their neck. I've
read trauma records. For four years, I read trauma
records. Right. I mean, I would read it and I
would see the pictures, but I wouldn't see it
happening. I wasn't there for the shooting. Yeah.
You know, that's I've never. Yeah. I've never
seen that in real life. So I was talking to my
coworker because we had like the same kind of
case where a guy got this fucking throat cut
a few months ago. Damn. And like, we don't have
any fucking debriefing for this. We just like
expect to just move on. yeah it's like oh just
go back to to work and that's the thing like
we at us is like we we were medical professionals
me and you were both we were medical professionals
casey still is um we we seen shit that was if
it wasn't that but it was at least similar enough
but the thing we saw the aftermath we didn't
see it actively happen seeing somebody actively
get shot is different than seeing a bullet hole
right because the physical violence that you,
it's the violence of it that's, and I'm not trying
to sound like a pussy or something like that
right now, but it's a visceral reaction that
you get out of seeing something like that. Humans,
if you're a fucking decent human being with some
form of empathy, when you see another person
get killed in a horrific way, It's going to give
you a visceral reaction to that. If you, if you
have any sort of empathy at all, even if it's
your worst fucking enemy, you're, you're going
to feel something with it. It does. It's not,
it's not just there's a, there's a, there's a
thing in Christianity is that every death is
a tragedy and violent deaths are especially tragedies.
And it's a, it was a, It was a tough watch, and
the thing was I kept trying to get different
angles because I wanted to see exactly how it
happened because I had the morbid curiosity of
it. Yeah, it's a lot different, the aftermath
of just trying to do CPR on somebody and bring
them back versus the first time. Well, even just
the first time that I talked to a patient, just
got to talk to them before they died, and then
they died. It was like... Same kind of feeling.
It's a heartbreaking thing because the man was
alive 48 hours ago. Right. And he was alive.
And not only was he alive, he was alive. He was
well. He had a wife. He had a kid. I think he
had two kids, actually. He had a wife, a son,
and a daughter. He had a wife. He had kids. He
was alive. He was well. He was 30 fucking one
years old. He's younger than you. He's a year
older than you. Fucking, it's like, the guy,
he was cut down in his prime because people didn't
agree with his political stances. And I think
that in itself is a tragedy. Yeah. Dude, I think
the left is going to not not the left casey left
but i'm talking about the noisemakers the the
person we were talking about before the people
the fucking i mean this is like the nail in the
coffin for people's gestures the ghouls those
people who are actually empathetic like these
people who are actually empathetic liberals aren't
gonna watch the video like that be like oh i'm
glad he's no i'm glad i saw that dude 90 of people
are like that's terrible Just like 90 % of people,
if they saw Nancy Pelosi take a round in the
neck, would be like, oh my God. You know what
I mean? As much as you think she's Satan, she's
an insider traitor. The human reaction. It all
goes out the window. The thing is, when you see
an image and you see a video like that, no matter
who you are, the human reaction to it is a visceral
disgust to it. I feel people are justifiably
angry. People are justifiably sad. People are
justifiably also just genuinely they don't know
what to do. I feel like if you're happy that
Nick Fuentes, remember he got fucking doxxed
or whatever. Alex Jones, he got sued for a fucking
billion dollars. At least if you're happy about
that, it's better than being happy about somebody's...
fucking murder right like a misfortune is is
different than a death yeah right you know the
the whole thing of let the dead lie you know
it just feels that there was a there's a this
this was the start of something and i i don't
like like i i got it i was at work i was i was
doing something on the computer i just got the
notification on my phone that charlie kirk was
shot And I was like, huh? And I kind of just
kind of brushed it off because I'm like, maybe
he got just like shot in the arm or something.
I'm like, whatever. And then like Allie Mack
called us and he like texted us. He's like, no,
he got he got fucked up. And I'm like, I'm like,
oh, OK. And I looked at the video. I'm like,
and the thing was, like, as soon as I saw that
video, I like. i i saw him get clipped in the
neck and i'm like he's done yeah they're like
like i he was dead before he hit the fucking
ground right that that that that was a literal
blood fountain i do wonder though because he
was so quick right like mentally if he knew what
had happened i bet he did i bet he had a second
because if it went through here right the thing
was it looked like he did the yeah so it probably
it probably clipped his brain stem right did
it so and then it's done. Probably like lost
consciousness instantly if it hits the spinal
cord. Because he did, he got hit here and if
you watch the video, I fucking unfortunately
watched it too many times. Fucking, he did the
whole posturing as soon as he got hit and slumped
over so he probably got clipped in the brain
stem. Yeah, that's like as far as like adding
injuries to like the job I did, that's That's
the most serious injury. That's like an instant.
So it's like a scale, an injury severity score,
and it goes up to 75, right? Anything over 25,
like, you know, like all the injuries tally up
to a score, right? To see what your probability
of survival would be, right? So as soon as, like,
you get an injury to the brainstem, like, it's
75 instantly. It's the maximum, the highest.
an injury you can get. It's a brainstem injury.
Obviously. You know what I mean? Like, that's
not something that, I mean, for some people,
maybe it needs to be said, but that just maxes
it out. You win the game. The fortunate, at least
the fortunate thing is that it was probably quick
for him. It just, it's, it, I, I, I don't know
why. I've been trying to stay out of politics.
I haven't been paying attention to any of this
shit for the last few months because it just
kind of got too much with it. And this hit in
a different way. It's hard to put it into words.
It has a... an aura of like darkness around it
like for lack of a better term like it just feels
like we we we crossed a line that we shouldn't
have yeah um and i i i'm scared to see what happens
next well the other thing dude is that like kyle
was trying to be all kumbaya in the chat and
like i want to be fucking angry right now you
know what i mean like i don't want to I'm holding
back on Facebook. Like I'm not commenting on
those, like, you know, the girl we're talking
about. I really wanted to comment on that and
be like, Oh, by absence, you mean death. Just
tell us how you really feel. But I'm holding
back right now, but I'm fucking mad, dude. Like
I'm mad. And it's not even like, it's not, I
want to say, Oh, liberals, it's not liberals,
dude. It's it. There's like this faction that
has split off from the liberals. That are just
a disease. It's a group of liberals and it's
a group of conservatives who don't basically
have empathy anymore. They're like on the fringes.
The best term I can come up for them is fucking
ghouls. They're fucking ghouls. That's what I
said. I'm not on one side because you remember
people used to think about litching Obama and
hanging those effigies and shit. But the thing
is a lot of people on the right are disavowing
that shit. As they should. I know. I want more
people on the left to disavow these ghouls because
that's the problem that I'm seeing is that if
some shit like this happened on the right, they'd
get fucking, they'd get crucified, right? These
people that would be cheering for this would
be fucking crucified. But these fucking ghouls
on the left. are fucking protected and i i i'm
i'm genuinely upset like i i've been upset since
i found out about this yesterday well i don't
agree with those people i i i understand that
but i i want more people to not be afraid to
come out and say things to these ghouls tell
them that this isn't okay I want there. I, I'm
all for free speech and I'm all for all this,
but these are the same people that would, if
this was completely roles reversed, they'd be
calling our fucking HRs of people's jobs. They'd
be putting their, they'd be posting them all
over the fucking place saying, putting these
people's faces on like a scarlet letter type
fucking thing. But on the left, they are not
held to the same standard. That the right is.
Because the right tries, at least in the general
sense, the morals of the right try to keep you
in the... The morals of the right are based on
that of Christianity. Because that's pretty much
what most people on the right are. They're Christians.
And the morals that we hold ourselves to on the
right, even if you're not a Christian but you're
on the right, you're still... kind of bound by
these christian morals we hold ourselves to a
higher standard we we try to get these people
but then when when the ghouls on the left they
don't have a fucking moral hierarchy they they
don't have a policing system for them they don't
have people that will call them out for this
because if you call these people out then then
you're the bad guy i i saw so many things that
made me genuinely upset when i when i read them
I wasn't a huge fan of the guy. I followed him.
I appreciated the work that he did. I disagreed
with a lot of things he said. I agreed with a
lot of things that he said. But the sheer audacity.
that these people have. It's the lack of empathy,
the audacity, the arrogance, the fucking hubris
of it, even. Yeah, it's not really even about
Christianity. It's not. You can be an atheist
and have some fucking morals to have empathy
for, and a lot of liberals do, like the actual
people that are good people. But I just want,
like, why does the left not hold these people
accountable? Well, it's almost like they can't.
And I think that a lot of the left, like the
people in political offices in the left, are
getting tired of pandering to these people. It's
going to be like the nail in the coffin for the
Democrats right now. I don't think it should
be, though. These people are so fucking stupid.
They think we want to vote for Gavin Newsom and
Kamala Harris in the next election. Did you not
learn anything? Did you not learn how much you
screwed your fucking party? Right. They focused
so much on identity politics to the point when
these people... And I don't know if you guys
heard the news that got released earlier today.
They found the assassin's weapon, and it was
a bolt -action rifle. It was a .308 round. It's
a hunting rifle, basically, right? It's a .308
round. The bullet itself's about yay big. And
it had pro -trans and anti -fascist engravings
on it. Wow. The thing is that I'm seeing with
this, and I feel like I had a semi of an epiphany.
It was pro -fascist? What? The anti -antifa -like
shit. Oh. It had pro -antifa shit on it and pro
-trans shit. They engraved it on the bullet casing.
But the thing, I had a semi -epiphany when doing
this. I fully admit I've been an angry person
for a long time in my life. And as a Catholic
man, and I know Casey will fucking say shit about
religion or whatever, just let me finish my point.
As a Catholic man, and I saw this horrific incident
unfold in front of our eyes here, it made me
more... deepened into my faith. Just, it just
happened. Cause I, I, I saw this and I'm like,
there's, there's this darkness in the world,
but I want to feel the, the, the, the goodness
of the world. It made me, I, I, I was angry.
I was very angry when I found this out. And like,
when I had this like epiphany, when I saw this,
this video here. I realized that we can't react
with anger and we can't react with violence against
this. We have to react in the way that, and Casey,
even if you're not going to look at it in a religious
way, you can at least look at it in a moral way
if you're going to try to disavow it. I don't
think you will. I think you'll agree with this,
but you'll just see it in a more secular way.
We can't react with violence to something like
this. We have to react in the way that Jesus
wants us to react to this. Because Jesus would
tell us to love our neighbors as ourselves and
to... And I don't want to get off on a religious
tangent, but it's a thing that's important to
me here, and I'll do a quick little thing here,
and we can move on from my religious view on
it. A lot of the ideas in religion are morals
that are actually designed to help people. So
here's the actual religious part of it. When
Jesus was being crucified, he was paraded through
the streets. And he was spit on and he was ridiculed,
mocked by all these people who once called him
a Messiah. And he was literally put on a cross
and crucified in the most brutal death and human
humans capable of. And he still said, forgive
them, father, for they know not what they do.
And that was where. My epiphany came with this.
It's like the, the, these people on the left,
the extremist left will continue to ridicule
and mock and dance on a grave and, you know,
do this, but you still forgive them because they
know not what they do. They, I feel like a lot
of these people on the left who are dancing on
pretty much dancing on this man's grave genuinely
don't know what they're doing. I genuinely think
that they might be. not all there mentally a
lot of them i feel like they've been corrupted
in certain ways yeah and i feel like they they
i i i want them to not feel that way because
like even as a as a person and you're looking
at this even in the non -religious sense if you're
a normal human being you should Have felt something
watching that. That's what I said. Like, and
I know I got off on that religious tangent because
it just is kind of how I felt. But I realized
that I can't react in hatred towards this. And
I really wanted to. I really, really wanted to
react in hatred and anger and vitriol and give
it right back to them. You know, it felt like
a justifiable rage. And I realize that you can't
fight evil with more evil. It doesn't work. You
can never respond to evil with more evil. Because
then it's the cycle. It's going to keep cycling,
and it's going to keep cycling, and it's going
to get worse. Some of this shit is just insane,
off the rails. If I'm arguing with Tyler, I'm
having a political argument with Tyler, and I
just fucking whip out a gun and shoot him in
the neck. That's not normal. That's not normal
behavior. No. I disagree with Casey. on almost
everything we we i i i joke in the chat how does
it feel to be wrong about every single view that
you have i don't want to kill casey me and him
have almost completely opposite political views
right completely opposite and he's gonna be a
groomsman in my wedding right like i i genuinely
don't care where you are on the aisle because
i still see you as a human being Well, that's
the problem is that, like, people get this mindset
where, like, their enemies are not humans because
it makes it easier to, like, hate them. Like,
that's what they had to do in, like, Vietnam
and World War II and shit. They had to view their
enemies as non -humans. And, like, I think a
lot of liberals are just viewing, like, these
conservative... They just think they're Nazis.
I mean... Sometimes they act like it, but I genuinely
feel that the, the mainstream media has blood
on their hands with this. Oh yeah, absolutely.
I mean, dude, this is all this division is, it's
literally, they have to come out with more and
more negative stuff in order to get people to
watch, right? It's who, it's a contest to see
who can come out with the most negative stuff
because the human brain has a negativity bias
because negative information keeps us alive.
That's what's kept us alive through human evolution.
Yeah. So positive information doesn't really
keep us alive that much. Like, yeah, finding
fruit, like a little dopamine hit from that,
but we get the most dopamine from negative information.
So it's just this race to the fucking bottom
to who can have the most negative news against
the opposite side. Well, do you realize it's
going to get more and more intense? Like every
day it's more intense, more intense, more intense
to the point that you're literally shouting in
your viewers face saying, they're nazis they're
nazis they should die like literally that's like
what msnbc has come to it's like that old guy
with the gray hair i don't know what his name
is but he literally is like he calls everybody
a wolf blitzer i don't think it's wolf blitzer
i'll find out who he is but yeah but this shit
would not happen 20 years ago like back then
they had you wouldn't be able to get that shit
on live tv and have the entire american public
see it right it's so like they would they would
have censored the shit like The only thing that
would even come close to that was watching 9
-11 happen on live TV. I feel like that's another
reason why this is such a dark moment in the
history of our country. And I know you disagree
with it, and I know I think you disagree with
it, but politically, not the same, but the closest
thing that we could probably react this to is
the MLK assassination. Even the politics aside,
everything aside, just the level of impact that
this is having. My father -in -law, who's a very
liberal man. What does he think? Even he was
like, that was a terrible thing that we all witnessed.
I guarantee you, even some of these psychopaths
that were on the right at the time of MLK were
like, Okay, this is a bridge too far. The people
who are not ghouls on either side can see this
and just see the tragedy in it. I think it's
a wake -up call. I think it's a... I don't want
it to be a call to action. I want it to be a
wake -up call to... I feel... I don't want people
to have to watch the video of it. But I feel
like people should. Dude, I've been arguing with
liberals more this week than fucking conservatives.
I might fucking start getting into it with them
on Facebook. Sometimes you got to like take,
you know, take a fucking audit of yourself. No,
there's a Harry Potter quote for you. Dumbledore
said it. He said it's easier to, it's harder
to stand up to your friends than your enemies.
So I feel like you have to kind of check your
own side sometimes. You have to be like, this
is not okay. This is too far. Right. And I mean,
I do that with conservatives all the time. i'll
be watching fox news and i'm just like they'll
be going on about how the liberals what's that
that's retarded just looking at that i sometimes
just turn on fox news and just laugh at like
the giant headlines and like the trump says that
people who do not like trump steaks can suck
his cock like i look at that i'll be like the
fuck is going on here right or they'll just be
like oh the the What do they call the not the
far left? Well, they say the radical radical
left. It's like, dude, anytime you're saying
that, like I can't take you serious. But this
this genuinely was radical left. Yeah. But that's
what I've been saying is since the start of this
podcast, there's a difference between being like
a good person and being a liberal or conservative.
And that's the thing with with you guys. I can
disagree with you politically. But I genuinely
think that you guys are good people. And I guess
I've just been kind of in my feels with it. But
I genuinely appreciate all of you guys being
in my life. And also something like this also
shows you the fragility that we all have in us.
And how life is... Tomorrow's not promised for
any of us. And it's just sometimes you take a...
a catalog of the things that are important to
you. And just saying like, just because, you
know, taking a catalog after an event like this,
I feel like is a human thing to do. And even
though like, I don't say it enough, I appreciate
all you guys as, as my friends. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
We love you too, Tyler. It's getting deep in
here. So, yeah, I usually, um, I usually do like
a lot of dark humor to deal with things. And
it's like the part of, the reason that it pissed
me off because like people are taking this so
seriously that like the liberals, we can't like
have dark humor about it. Even like if you post
some kind of joke about it, it's just like, Oh,
you're glad he's dead. But there was a lot of
good. Yeah. The thing that, I mean, all I'm saying
is that his, his dentist must be happy, but his
dentist. Yeah. Weird gums. Oh yeah. He did have,
you know, I, I thought you were going to say
something. Say it. I like the thing, like the
thing is like, I'm like, give it a resting period.
Right. And I feel like, you know, you can, you
can make jokes and stuff, but like, it's kind
of the body's still like cooling down. Right.
Like I, he's not even buried yet. Right. Type
thing. But let's not forget why it happened though.
It's because Trump wanted to distract from the
Epstein files. Right. We need to, they said,
Oh, uh, sir, Mr. Trump. We're getting a lot of
heat for these Epstein files. Might want to release
those. He's like, no, what we need is a fucking
scapegoat. We need a fucking martyr. We need
to create a martyr. Sounds more like something
Israel would do. Because, alright, so if Epstein
was... Are we making this transition to the more
lighthearted kind of like conspiracy theory shit?
Yeah. I feel like I brought down the vibe with
the seriousness. No, no. There is like something.
One last thing I wanted to say about that is
like, I didn't like, I just knew this guy like
in passing. I didn't know him, but I knew like
of him, just occasionally I see a video pop up
and I'd see him roasting a college student where
they just like couldn't wrap their head around
what he was saying. And it just, he completely
destroyed them. So I knew him just as that guy,
you know? And then, like, as soon as that happened,
it was just like, holy shit, like, this is real.
Like, this dude is just an influencer. It's just
a guy going around. It's like, it's just like
when celebrities have been shot and killed. He's
a celebrity. He's not really a politician, you
know? Except John Lennon. Oh, yeah. Except John
Lennon. But anyway, so, yeah, as far as Epstein,
right? So if Epstein was an asset of the Mossad,
which is basically like the general consensus.
Yeah. Um, they really, they manipulate our country
just like we go out and manipulate other countries,
you know, cause uprisings and stuff like that.
So Israel's our ally, but they still fuck with
the U S dude. That's not like, that's, that's
known. Like the thing I was telling you about
with John Kairaku, how he said, when our CIA
agents went to Israel, they found shit in all
their toilets. Right? When they came home from
dinner. Like, and that's just, that's an intimidation
thing by their intelligence. What do you think
about the guy that was just standing behind him
going, tipping his hat, touching his nose? Dude,
I touch my hat a thousand times a day. Yeah,
but I don't touch my hat and then go, my nose.
You're like, shoot him, shoot him. Dude, he wasn't
like running over, like throwing signs. The baseball,
like fucking, the cats are fucking. And since
when does a sniper need signs to see a guy sitting
in a fucking chair? He's sitting still. He's
not moving. No, he was signaling, like, he put
the microphone. Now he's still, like, now's your
chance. I just think... He's got a scope, dude.
Yeah, but if you're looking through a scope...
Have you ever looked through a fucking scope?
I'm not talking about him seeing. I'm talking
about the situation. The guy standing next to
him can see the situation of when he's talking
and when people are asking questions. Casey,
a bullet's not going to stop. But remember, think
about Trump. He turned his head at the last second,
so they were trying to get it so that he had
the perfect shot, which they did. Just another
thing about this rifle that he had. Ballistic
expert. I watched a sniper, like a Marine recon
sniper, do a breakdown of this earlier today.
A Marine recon sniper there. He basically said,
shot like this. It's not ridiculously hard. And
the way that this guy did this shot, he was not
a professional, but he was a decent shot. So
with the type of rifle that he had, he zeroed
it to 100 yards, which is what you're supposed
to do when you're doing that. And then you can
use the Coriolis effect, which is the dropping.
Of the firearm or the bullet. Yeah, bullet drop,
like in Battlefield. Yeah, like in Battlefield.
So he thinks that this guy did not know about
the Coriolis effect of it. He wasn't as familiar
with guns as, you know, an actual professional
like assassin or a professional sniper or somebody
who had formal training with firearms. He just
practiced with just shooting. He was aiming at
his head. He was aiming at his head. Or he was
aiming at the guns. But he goes, there's two
ways that this gun could fire. One is dropping
and one's firing up because of the angle that
it was at. He goes, either way, he was either
aiming for his head or he was aiming for his
chest. And if he was aiming for his chest, it
went up. Then if he was aiming for his head,
it dropped. But think about when he did it, though.
He did it right after he asked the question about
gun control. How would the sniper know what he
was talking about? There's a huge loudspeaker
that you can hear from a walk. But he had to
do that for a reason. He had to wait until he
was talking about gun control for the symbolic
gesture behind it. Yeah. It's a fucking message.
Yeah. It's a message, and I hope that the right
is moral. able to control their anger to the
point where they don't react in a significant
way of more violence. It's a dark, it was just
genuinely, it was a dark time. People get like
a crowd kind of mentality where they're like,
you know, like I said, view the other side as
non -human and I think now people will kind of
like target democratic politicians and be like,
oh, this is our revenge. I think it's the vengeance
begets vengeance. That's another Bible quote,
but it's an accurate statement. Vengeance begets
vengeance. An eye for an eye makes the whole
world blind. And it's one of those things when
you just look at it and it's a horrifying...
it's a symbol of the times this is going to be
in history books. It's, it's just, I genuinely,
I'm hurt by it and I, I'm genuinely upset about
it and sad. And I mean, that was the goal was
to make people pit against each other. If people
are focused on eating, eating each other, you're
not going to question the government. All right.
But the thing I feel is the most important is
this, this man had a family and I, I, i pray
for his family and i i i feel for his family
and his friends and they are genuinely in my
my thoughts and my prayers and not even like
an ironic thoughts and prayers with that which
is another fucking thing that pissed me off with
these fucking liberal left left fucking radical
left people there's like thoughts and prayers
because they don't believe in a god they don't
have a higher power and they're they're mocking
And they're mocking my religion with that. And
that's another okay thing for them to do. Yeah,
the person that we know mutually that's far left.
Yes. He was saying that. Yeah, thoughts and prayers.
And I 100 % know that he doesn't believe in the
fucking God. Right, good for him. I mean, even
if you don't agree with the guy, you at least
have to defend freedom of speech. Like the right
to say what you want to fucking say. What this
guy tried to do is he fucking put the Constitution
on a fucking target and shot the First Amendment.
Who's that? The fucking sniper. Oh, right. He
put the First Amendment on a fucking target and
shot the First Amendment. Yeah. But the thing
is, the only way we let this guy win is if we
stop talking and we stop having a discourse.
And I feel even though nobody listens to this
shitty show, I feel like shit like this, just
having people with differing views able to talk
with each other and then just go outside and
have a cigar is how America is supposed to run
itself. Yeah. See, I think that we should keep
politics to a confined space, right? And I think
that's how we're going to get out of this. Say
we want to talk about it here. Not here. In a
public place, you have discourse like Charlie
Kirk was doing. Come out and let's talk about
it here. But then when we leave here... We'll
leave as friends. We leave it behind. We go play
baseball. We go have dinner. It's there and not
anywhere else. And that's the only way that we're
going to get out of this. Dude, first and foremost,
you're not a liberal Republican. You're an American.
right you're not black you're not whatever race
you know what i mean you're you're an american
first above all things and like people are forgetting
that you know i know like the the fucking mutual
respect that like obama and mccain had for each
other like right when they shook hands remember
that no he's a good guy like i'm sure if say
like mccain got shot in the neck or obama got
shot in the neck there would be like a certain
group of people like crazy fucking conservatives
would be like But like most people back then
would be like, oh, that's fucked up. I also feel
the loudest voices are the ones that are being
put out there right now. And the loudest voices
are normally the stupidest voices. Dude, it's
exactly true. I think the founding fathers had
the right idea when they said like 60 % of the
people just don't know what they're fucking talking
about. So like, that's why like 10 to 20 % of
the people have to kind of decide for the rest.
And like what Dan was saying earlier, that the
negativity. is what gets us the dopamine hit
and the algorithm knows that we want that negativity
so they're gonna show us it's gonna keep showing
us things that make us angry our cell phones
are literally destroying this country it's a
portal to hell yeah think about what what would
be the reaction if like a school shooting was
streamed live like the same kind of thing yeah
but like what if you saw like a kid get shot
in the neck like would people be as mad about
it then. They didn't have a moment of silence
in the Senate yesterday for school shooting victims.
They didn't have a moment of silence for other
political violence when the Democrats got shot.
Genuinely, genuinely gross actions from the left
on that one, too. A man died. A man with a family.
A man with parents, brothers, sisters. They couldn't
take a fucking moment of your fucking time to
just... pay respect to a human that died that
that that genuinely that that rubbed me very
much the wrong way the fucking you earned this
you should do gun control it's like dude not
the fucking time right show some goddamn respect
to a fucking fellow human i mean if it was like
hitler like osama bin laden like a genuinely
people cheered when osama bin laden he was a
genuinely evil man i'm saying that It's like
Osama bin Laden died and we're like, yeah, we
got him because he fucking killed all these people.
But this is just a guy who's just debating with
people. In the grand scheme of things, he was
an innocent man. He didn't do anything, you know,
hostile. He didn't do anything that should be
put to death. He didn't murder anybody. He didn't
fucking commit a crime, I guess. He didn't do
anything that should be put to death. You know,
these other people that you're that you're bringing
up like Hitler and Osama bin Laden. These are
people that if tried could get the death penalty.
Charlie Kirk, if he got tried for anything, the
death penalty wouldn't be on the fucking table.
Like, that's why this is a tragic tragedy. thing
that happened and the people who are like but
what about palestine what about that they're
in a fucking war zone it's war war is different
than an assassination right i know it's like
these people didn't pipe up about palestine it's
like these people it doesn't even make sense
because it's like you're grouping everybody into
you know putting everybody in one group it's
like dude i know plenty of conservatives that
are like dude what the fuck is going on in palestine
I don't want either side to win that. I wish
there was a, I wish there was a case where both
sides lost that. Right. Like, and like, but like
genuinely like the people who are like, since
Charlie Kirk has been killed, 20 people, 20 children
in Palestine have been killed. I'm like, they're
in an active fucking war zone. Right. It's like,
you can make a raft and swim across the Mediterranean.
They're like, you'll hit, you'll hit land eventually.
Cause it's a sea. It's enclosed by land. It's
like, but you, you're choosing to stay there.
It's not even that. There's a difference between
warfare and assassination. There's a big difference
between warfare and assassination. Because war
is the worst thing man has ever created. And
war is terrible. War is awful. War is something
that I wish that our generation and every generation
after us will not have to deal with. However.
There's a different world than war. These people
who are complaining about, well, 20 people died,
blah, blah, blah. Yes, they're in an actual fucking
war zone. When you're in war, war is a completely
different world from the world that you and I
have fucking known our entire lives. It's like
known. You're in a different mindset when you're
in a war zone. You're like, you kind of know
that, okay, today could be my last day. It's
war. It's war. You're there to kill each other.
Right. People, and also in warfare, people are
going to do the worst possible thing to each
other. It's a terror. War is a horrific thing.
It's terrible. It's awful. And these people are
here to kill each other. But like you said, when
you're in a war mindset. You're in a war zone.
You know war is different than what we experience
over here. People who haven't been to war or
haven't done deep research or have been press
or whatever, they don't know how horrific actual
conflict in war is. And these people who are
comparing... These people in Palestine, you guys
don't care about these people in Palestine. I
care deeply about the people, the innocent people
who are getting killed in Israel and Palestine.
I care deeply about the innocent children on
both sides that are getting killed. But I can't
stop a fucking war. These guys have been fighting
for thousands of years. You think one white guy
from America is going to come over there and
be like, stop fighting! And it stops the war?
No. We should send the far left to go over there
and stop it. Yeah, they should have a pride march.
The far left? Yeah, the far left. The radical
left. They're both giving money to fucking Israel.
The far left and the far right can go. Our government's
fucking far right. They're giving money to Israel.
Yeah. There's a big difference between the war
and an assassination. And I don't feel like they
are even like... it's comparing apples to oranges.
They're two different things. Cause it's like,
dude, when you're like Charlie Kirk, he was completely
like, this is a peacetime. Yes. You know what
I mean? This is a civilian. There's nothing,
there's no war about it. Like there was no conflict.
He was having a fucking political, just debate.
He was talking with people and then he got shot.
That's a, that's a different thing than living
in a war zone. We live in America. We don't have
a fucking war here. The closest we got was 9
-11. And look at... To this day, 24 years later,
we're still reeling from 9 -11. And that's one
event. It's a fucking... We are in a dark time.
Dude, I hate to say this, but... I think a nice
little world skirmish. I don't want to say a
world war. World involved skirmish. Put things
into perspective. Burn off a couple of the weak
people. Not a couple. A few hundred thousand
of the weak people. You know? Yeah. Dude, because
just think. If we were in a time of war, right?
There's food scarcity, right? food scarcity you
can't drive anywhere you know fuel scarcity so
only the people that can really survive are going
to survive like the people that really know how
to do shit you know like people that rely on
fucking grocery stores and the power grid they're
fucked call the herd they're fucked and call
the herd man seriously like but that's another
thing right and left i just i genuinely that's
another thing i agree with you there i'm not
i'm not trying to cut you off But the culling
the herd thing is that throughout all of society
and all of history, the weak have not been able
to survive. These people who are weak, these
people who are low testosterone, low energy,
low effort, these are the people that wouldn't
make it. Low vibrational frequency. Yeah, these
people wouldn't be the people. What? Just like
operating on a low vibrational frequency. What
is that? Oh, you said, that was funny yesterday.
You said when she had a room temperature IQ.
Room temperature IQ. Room temperature IQ people.
But like these are people that wouldn't even
make it to adulthood. Right. And I think a big
problem, and I'm not for eugenics. I'm not for
like, you know, just killing off a whole group
of things. I am. But like there's a pattern where
we let these, this. Did we cut it off? Cut it
off. So there's a pattern of this, and it's just
these people who keep reproducing and doing just
stupid, it's just getting worse. We're making
worse and worse people. It used to be survival
of the fittest. Now, with modern medicine and
the coddling of everybody, People who shouldn't
be having these voices to fucking even talk about
this shit are the loudest fuckers in the room.
Right. And because they're the loudest fuckers
in the room, they get the most fucking eyes on
them. Right. And it's these people who probably,
like, look at... And if you just look at these
people, genuinely look at these people who are
the ones who are saying all this shit, you know
exactly what they are. You know exactly the type.
Yeah. You know, they look... exactly how you
expect them to look not fit ugly blue haired
disgusting every single one of them they they
all have that that bug man etymology like they
just i know exactly what you're talking about
and it's fucking true look at all these people
Look at all these people who are saying all these
terrible things. They're all in the bug man archetype.
They are just... They're insect -like. They're
not like... You fucking look at a fucking football
player and you're just like, that's something
I want to be. You look at Arnold and you go,
that's a man I want to model myself after because
I look at that guy. I look at these fuckers who
are saying all this shit about... All this dancing
on a man's grave, pretty much. These are bug
fucking people. They're just fucking disgusting
people. They look exactly how their fucking soul
is. You can look at them and you can be like,
that's why, because you have an ugly soul. You're
fucking out here dancing on people's graves because
you have a dark soul. I look at you and I see
what you actually are. Your outside matches your
inside. No matter what you do, your outside will
match your inside, your darkness that's in there.
You are exuding hate and darkness and anger and
vitriol and venom. You're out here and you're
spitting all of this out. And it's... We know
what you look like. We know who you are. We know
that you hate yourself, so you want everybody
else to be upset. You fucking hate yourself so
much that you want everyone else to suffer. I
suffered, so the world needs to suffer. Dude,
you can say that about... Far right groups too.
I am agree. I'm saying that. We know exactly
these people. It's not just blue haired people.
It's like fucking Nazis too. It's the KKK. Look
at the people who are in the fucking white supremacist
groups. Do they look like the supreme white race?
No. That's what happens when hate gets out of
control. Hate warps a soul in an actual physical
sense. You can not say this is like a spiritual
thing at all or something. Hate warps the body.
Hate warps your body and warps your soul and
your mind. You look at somebody and you can say
they've been warped by hate. Look at these people.
You look at these people and... I genuinely feel
that a lot of these people who are ugly on the
inside and ugly on the outside, they've been
warped by hate. They've, they've been warped
by a darkness that they have inside them that
they refuse to give up. Well, dude, it's like,
it's also a self -limiting problem. Like all
the things that they're like fighting for eventually
is going to destroy them. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
So it's like, I think the best thing to do is
just let them destroy themselves. It's just like,
it's kind of like how the whole cancel culture
thing started to just like destroy the far left.
That's what we did. It was just the competition
of, of, of excluding everybody. I feel like that's
what we've been doing is just letting the far
left destroy themselves. Like when we had Biden
as president and then we just elect and then
we, now we have the far right destroying themselves.
Like, people like join people say like oh this
side's so stupid uh this side like i don't agree
with them so i'm gonna join the other side but
it's then like they get in this like mentality
that this side is right because the other side
is so bad but it's like both sides are dead i
i i never thought that saying murder is bad would
be a controversial take right why is saying murder
is bad a controversial take right now i don't
get it it's a weird world we live in like dude
there's so many people that are like outspoken
like oh yeah kill kill all pedophiles right so
like if you look at the law like that's egregious
right but murder's above that it is so it's like
huh so you're you're in support of something
worse than the worst thing You know what I mean?
Like everybody is like, that's like the thing
that, you know, so many people are like, oh man,
I would take a pedophile and strangle him and
do all this stuff. And, but you're okay with
murder. You know, like that's, oh, that's okay
though. That's like, oh, you know what? His absence
is fine. Well, people say like, that's, that's,
that's worse. Like they're both really fucking
bad, but that's actually worse. Why do you think
it's so hard to kill somebody? But it's okay.
Like legally it's hard to, it takes fucking 30
years to kill somebody. And it takes somebody
who's willing to just fucking push the meds that
kill somebody because it's like people have human
empathy. What do you mean? Say that again. I
didn't quite understand what you meant. Why does
it take 30 years? Why does the legal process
take 30 years to make sure? I actually know the
reasoning why. They want to prove without a shadow
of a doubt that this person is the one because
if you're in jail, you can get acquitted. And
if you get acquitted, you got acquitted of the
crime. You didn't commit the crime. You're free
to go and you can actually get a stipend from
the government that we got the wrong thing. Here's
a million dollars. Sorry that you were in jail
for 10 years. Well, I'm saying, yeah, because
people don't want to kill people. Like, murder
is bad, basically. Humans don't, shouldn't, like,
it's... we've seen terrible things with our job
that we used to all work together we saw terrible
things and it affected all of us and some more
than others i feel like but it genuinely affected
all of us and you can't be near people who are
dead and dying and it not affect you because
that's just how humans work and i i just i genuinely
hope that We don't have to see another event
like this unfold, but I fear for our nation.
I fear for our future. I fear for our children.
Dude, I think the best thing... Dude, I'm such
a... I love people. And so to delete somebody
on Facebook hurts me because I really genuinely
just... I'm a people person. I'm your friend.
Are you deleting people now? Well, dude, it's
getting to the point where it's like... I don't
want to see this shit. Not even I don't want
to see it. It's like I wouldn't let somebody
that said some of these things, I wouldn't let
you around my family. I wouldn't sit down and
have dinner with you if you think like that.
If you say somebody's absence brings you peace,
somebody you didn't know probably doesn't even
show up on your algorithm. So what you really
mean is their death brings you peace. Like, it's
coming for you too. Like, do people think they're
immortal? Like, your turn's coming, man. And
like, everybody's going to forget about you.
And eventually the people that knew your name,
they're going to die too. And, you know, 150
years from now, nobody's going to know you. Whether
you're a king or a lowly street sweeper, sooner
or later you'll dance with the reaper. Exactly.
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Is that what
that's from? Actually, it's from Bill and Ted's
Bogus Journey, the second one. But it's like,
dude, I'm going to have to start getting rid
of people. I got a clean shop and I don't want
to do it because I really like to see the other
side of it. But it's too far. Dude, when I voted
for Trump, I couldn't talk. I was not allowed
to talk about who I voted for. Right. Like not
at home, but you know, like at work and stuff,
it's like, Oh, I better can't, can't talk about
it. And yeah, it's not even necessary. That's
bigotry. If I can't talk about it, like, So I
want to see the other side. I want to know. And
I think that we should normalize switching sides
because what the country needs isn't always the
same. Like things change. Like sometimes we need
law and order of the right. And sometimes we
need the compassion of the left. We need the
social justice of the left, right? We need different
things in different doses at different times.
And not only here's the other problem with social
media is that it's bringing. problems that aren't
your problems into your house, straight to your
face, to your, to your family, or it's caught
in conflict between families and shit like that.
But it's like, it's like a problem. I just, let
me finish this thought. So, so say, uh, you see
some fucking protest in California, right? Against
ice. Okay. Because they're having border problems
in Southern California. Okay. People coming in
from Mexico and it's causing problems. There's
MS -13 gang members coming through. Dude, I see
people in Australia getting pissed off about
ICE raids. It's like, that's not your fucking
problem to worry about. And I guarantee to all
these people that are so pissed off about what
ICE is doing in California and doing on the Mexican
border in Texas and Arizona, don't go out and
get involved in their own fucking communities
at all. Wouldn't help an old person cross the
street. But they're so fucking concerned with
what's going on across the fucking globe. It's
like what we need to do is we need to find, I
don't want to say a safe space, but a designated
space to debate politics. A town square. A town
square. And then we need to make it fucking.
like farting in church to talk about politics
anywhere else on facebook on any social media
at the restaurant just shut the fuck up about
it if you want to talk about it go down to the
square town square and talk about it have like
a fucking thunderdome of politics and then just
outside of that that's that's not there it's
not there exactly and then the other thing is
it's too accessible for people to have a voice
they're just like people people that just have
People have some really dumb thoughts. People
have some really dumb thoughts. People that really
have no business, no credential spouting off
anything are, you know, getting attention on
social media. So any, I'm going to say this and
then I'm going to switch back to Tyler and let
him talk. I apologize. I've been talking a lot.
No, no, not a dude. I, I wasn't going to come
unless you came because I wanted to hear your
perspective. So any society, Where the people
at the bottom control things has degenerated
and fallen apart, right? So our government is
intentionally set up so that the people at the
bottom don't have all the control, right? Because
you want more intelligent people at the top.
You want to push intelligent people to the top
of the hierarchy and you want them to have control.
because you can't have the one in 10 voting directly
like that's why we don't vote directly you know
because it would literally just degrade into
hell i mean it makes sense like people you know
everybody can't be a doctor we have to have people
that specialize in things we can't just have
everybody think that they're an expert on government
politics and that's another thing we need people
who are fucking skilled workers doing you know
fucking manual labor i feel like that's just
as important as a doctor just in a different
way like it's i know i've been talking no dude
no i've been here in a month yeah i don't know
i don't want to talk i'm getting tired i don't
i don't even know if i i've been making good
points or anything i just you have i i've i haven't
been i i just it feels like i've had a lot of
I think the liberals, take a look at yourself
in the mirror if you're advocating for murder.
It's not like a lot of these people are like,
I know people that are not bad people. This couch
is a great idea, by the way. This couch is a
great idea. This is so much nice. I feel more
open. I got pretty deep into some actual emotion
there. I feel more open. This is the perfect
podcatch, isn't it? There's people that are not
necessarily bad people that kind of get sucked
in to the side that's taking it too far, where
they're like, well, this person did all these
things to negatively affect the country, and
they're responsible for all this shit, so they
deserve to die. But I don't know. I'm genuinely...
Looking back on a lot of my opinions, and I've
had a lot of hard opinions on things, and I genuinely
have been taking inventory. This is a semi -wake
-up call for everything. It really let me take
a mental inventory of a lot of things, and I've
been extreme in a lot of my views, and I've expressed
them in very flamboyant ways, we'll say. It makes
you think that there's more to it than us versus
them. And I've been in a very us versus them
thing for a very long time. But I feel like this
is kind of a wake -up call for me as well. It's
a wake -up call for someone who's like me. This
was a guy who was technically, quote -unquote,
on my side too. I'm more sympathetic to a lot
of things just because I'm like, when it hits,
it hits you when it's, when it's one of yours
type thing. And when it hits you, you take it
inventory. And, you know, like I said, with the,
the epiphany there, it's, uh, when it actually
hits you. It you you you go through and you you
take these things that you're you're you're stumbling
over my words here because it's just it's a hard
thing to talk about. It's a. It makes you put
things into perspective, I think, is the word
that the wording I was looking for. Yeah. A lot
of the things that I was I was very passionate
about. I wasn't passionate about. I was inflammatory.
I thought it was funny. And I think it's more,
it's a thing of a loss of innocence. It's another
loss of innocence, you know. I think it's going
to genuinely help me mature as a person doing
this. I think I've seen things in a more clear
lens after taking a self -inventory. I feel like
even the viewers... Lack thereof of our podcast.
I think the moral of the lesson is you should
need to be more open -minded. I feel like everybody
needs to be more open -minded. I think that's
the thank you case. That was the point I was
trying to make. I feel like out of everybody
here, I should be the most angry about this because
this is pretty much an attack on my entire side.
thing this was a guy they killed a uh they martyred
him for for lack of a better term but and i feel
like i have and this isn't like a thing i i feel
like i have the most right to be upset about
this because this was the things that i've defended
the things that i've gone through the things
that i stand for why am i the one that's taking
inventory and realizing that Hate isn't the answer.
I, I'm the one that should be angry, but I, I
had an epiphany of the point of, I need to let
some things go and I need to appreciate the things
that we have and take that inventory and not
be so extreme in my own views because I've realized
that it's just going to breed more hate. Um,
and it's, I feel like it's, uh, it's kind of
made it a new me because there's a lot of people
that are like, there's a woke, there's killed
a part of me and I, I'm scared of what it awakens.
And I feel like a part of me did die watching,
watching that because it's a, it's a very hard
thing to watch and it was a thing. But the part
of me that awakened after that, I feel is a more
clear minded and a more merciful. outlook person
and the sad thing is that i feel like i'm going
to be in the minority with that i feel like a
lot of people who are going to be awakened with
this shit are going to be awakened with fury
and rage i don't blame them for that but i i
pray for them that and i pray for america that
they they they take that rage and they turn that
into mercy or humility Because we can't react
to this evil with more evil, like I've been saying
over and over. If you react to evil with more
evil, you're not helping. You're making things
so much worse. And I feel like you make things
worse in that way, you're not coming back from
it. Yeah, it's a never -ending cycle. It's a
never -ending cycle of hate. And I feel like
we need to break that cycle because extending
an olive branch to a person who would curse your
name, they might slap it out of your hand. But
maybe, just maybe, in the face of such hate and
vitriol, you showing that humility and that mercy
to that person who hates your guts. All it takes
is one person to change. And that one person
can change another person. We could stop hate
with mercy and love. And that's what I want to
leave that at. Dude, I think that's... I don't
think there's going to be a Game of Jeopardy
tonight, right? It's kind of a somber episode.
We can change it. We can take a break and change
it up. I think... I'm a little tired. I think
that was a good like. That's a good. A good emergency
episode. Yeah. All right. So I think maybe if
you guys or whatever you guys want to do. Either
way. What do you want to do? We can take a break
or end it here. I say that we can record an actual
outro. If we take a break, come back. We might
have more fun. Yeah. I think we got to fucking
not end on that note. Yeah, yeah. It's a little
dark. Maybe not Jeopardy, but we'll come back
with some lighter topics. We'll be back to the
podcast. Oh, yeah. Welcome back to the podcast.
I've never heard the song. I just Googled Smokey
Robinson because I just smoked Dan and Batman.
You did. Welcome back to the Sash Nation 9 -11
special. We're going to move on from that now.
So, you asked a couple weeks ago, probably about
a month ago now, last time you were on the pod,
I think it was, who is our favorite celebrity
crushes? Yeah. Right? And I think I said, who's
that spooky bitch? Oh, Audrey Plaza? Yeah, yeah.
No, it's Millie Bobby Brown. Bro, she's like
20. Dude, but look at it. Yeah, dude, she's like
20. I don't give a fuck if she's 20. She's legal
tender, bro. Fucking Millie Bobby Brown from
Stranger Things. Call that Andrew Jackson. God
damn, she grew up. She grew up, she looked like
a fucking little boy. God damn. What's the deal
with Sydney Sweeney and why is everybody so mad
at her about the commercials? I want to touch
on that one more time. I think I might have changed
my thought process on it. You know Helena Bottom
Carter? You know, the bitch from Fight Club?
Oh, yeah, yeah. That's probably mine. Really?
Yeah, I like her. I wonder what she looks like
now. Pretty good still. Like, still pretty good.
She's got like that weird, like... I don't have
pigment in my skin look, but, you know. What's
her name again? Helena Bonham Carter. Bonham
Carter, something like that. Oh. Well, let's
see lately what she looks like. She doesn't look
too bad. Dude, she still looks good. Yeah. Goddamn.
With specifically her in Fight Club, too. Yeah.
She's aged really well. I think the thing is,
this isn't me just gassing out my wife. My wife
has a very similar face to her. Oh, yeah, she
does. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, ooh. Yeah, yeah,
you're right. Okay, okay. Yeah, but she has a
very similar looking face to her. Yeah, she does.
That's funny. And that's her favorite actress.
She wants to look like her. I'm like, you already
do. Really? Yeah. No shit. Have people told her
she looks like her? No. She's never heard. I'm
like, bro, you look like her. Yeah, she does.
Yeah. Olivia Wilde. She's hot. Olivia Wilde.
That's who you let me look her up. Is that the
fucking the bitch from House? Yeah. 11 or whatever
or 13? 13, yeah. She's got a very square face.
Yeah, she does. She kind of looks like Handsome
Squidward. She does. Yeah, her jaw. Let me show
you this one. Oh, yeah. Handsome Squidward. But
I think that's the Botox. And then we'll compare
it to Handsome Squidward. Damn, Squidward. That's
rough. No, no, no. Just her chin, see? Yeah.
There's Handsome Squidward. That's your one?
Really? Oh, yeah. And then she's got the same
jawline as him. Yeah. That's a very pronounced
face. Yeah. Helena Bonham Carter, though. Yeah.
Her and Fight Club and Sweeney Todd. Dude, Millie,
I think she's 21. I think she can drink alcohol.
It's still fucking pushing it, dude. No. Are
you kidding me? What are you, 35? 21 years old.
Come on. What are you, 35? It's like, dude, when
you fucking, when you buy, if you bought a Playboy.
How old do you think they are? Probably 21 to
25. Put a knife in there? You got stabbed? Yeah.
Alright. What do you think, Dan? You want to
get your ass beat at Jeopardy today? I don't
know. I think we should keep this one an emergency
episode. Yeah, it's an emergency episode. All
right. And keep it... Keep it a hun. I think
we should end with a good Charlie Kirk quote,
just out of respect. You don't have to like him.
You don't have to... This isn't like... Here,
I got one. Something I want to end on. You got
one? Yeah. So just to say what kind of person
he actually... What do you believe? Because you're
going to hear a lot of stuff. From people, yeah.
All right. So he hated gays. This is how he felt.
Is that Erica again? It is Erica again. Hi, Charlie.
We made friends earlier. She was homeless a year
ago and now she's thriving. How great is that?
Since meeting you a few short hours ago, I've
already had numerous people remove me on Instagram
and tell me they can no longer be my friends
because I'm here at a free event learning both
sides of the spectrum. Anyway, oh, and I also
forgot to tell you my pronouns. I identify as
non -binary Joe Biden. Non -binary fuck Joe Biden.
What? Live and let live. Everybody can live however
they want. They can do whatever they want. And
my question for you is, do you have... any hate
and is turning point usa against the lgbt community
because i'm being told that by coming here and
listening to you speak that i'm either a racist
or a fascist or against the lgbt and isn't fascism
when someone doesn't agree with your beliefs
and your views and they want it either your way
or the highway yeah it's the people that defriended
you on instagram they're the fascists So I do
not have hate for a group. I do not have hate
for a people. So just so I can get it on my camera.
We got plenty of cameras, but yeah. But yes,
so you do not hate the LGBT community. And Turning
Point is not against LGBT. How could I hate that
which I have a heart for? Thank you. And I might
not agree for some of the lifestyle choices that
some people make, but of course not. And if someone
said, Charlie, what's your view on marriage?
I say, I believe marriage has been one man and
one woman. But if you ask me, do I have hate
in my heart for somebody that doesn't choose
the lifestyle that I believe that God laid out
in the scriptures? Of course not. Yes, I was
told that Turning Point USA is against LGBTQ.
Well, you could be told a lot of different things.
I know, it's all both. I rest my case. Thank
you so much. God bless you, Charlie. So like,
dude, I've had Christianity forced on my throat
my entire life, right? The grownup. And so like
when I hear people like, you know, getting like
real into like the scriptural stuff, I had it
just beat into my brain, dude. So I don't, I
don't see, Tyler sees eye to eye to him with
that stuff. Cause you know, he's Catholic, but
I don't really like, um, That's not my thing
anymore. You don't get on the biblical level.
I don't get on the biblical level, but he said
he's not against LGBT. He has a heart for them.
Does that sound like a terrible person? No. Does
that sound like somebody that deserves to die?
No, it doesn't sound like a terrible person.
I think a lot of people think that if you are
going to prevent gays from getting married, that
they don't have the same rights as everybody
else, and that's kind of taking away their human
rights, though. So I think if you say that you
don't agree with that or you want to take away
rights from those people, that shows some form
of hate to me. Well, it's just a different opinion.
He has an opinion on how he thinks things should
be done. And you don't have to agree with it.
And he even admits that you don't have to agree
with it. Dude, I'm so thankful that there are
people that have different opinions than me.
Because if everybody shared my opinions, this
would be a fucked up world. Like, I'm just glad
that I'm glad that I'm glad there's other people
out there with different ideas. You know, I'm
not the smartest guy, but I'm not in the one
in 10. I'm somewhere in between. You're like
three out of 10. Right. Five out of 10. Give
me a five. I'll give you a nine. You're the dead
average. Yeah, I know what you mean. I think.
I appreciate other perspectives. I do as well,
but I think a good way to end it is kind of reiterating
the point that I said earlier, is that you can't
defeat hate with more hate. You gotta defeat
hate with loving that person that's throwing
the hate at you, because that's the only way
that things are gonna change. All you need is
love. That's what John Lennon said. Oh, God.
God, he had to go there. Right when we're going
to wrap this up on a positive note, you're going
to send Tyler on a rampage. I hate John Lennon.
You would agree with John Lennon. All he needs
is love. You know what? In the spirit of this
episode, John Lennon, you might have had a point
there. All right. Well, thanks for listening,
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Alright, be kind to yourselves. And very importantly,
each other. We out. Bug out. And let's fade out
to some See You Again by Ms. Blythe. It's been
a long day without you, my friend. And I'll tell
you all about it when I see you again. We've
come a long way from where we began. Oh, I'll
tell you all about it when I see you again. When
I see you. All the planes we flew, good things
we been through. Then I be standing right here
talking to you about another path. I know we
love to hit the road and laugh, but something
told me that it wouldn't last. Had to switch
up, look at things different, see the bigger
picture. Those were the days, hard work forever
pays. Now I see you in a better place. How can
we not talk about family when family's all that
we got? Everything I would do, you would Standing
there by my side And now you gon' be with me
for the last ride It's been a long day Without
you, my friend And I'll tell you all about it
When I see you again We've come a long way your
way in the vibe is feeling stronger with small
turn to a friendship a friendship turn to a bond
and that bond will never be broken the love will
never get lost you my friend and i'll tell you
all about it when i see you again we've come
a long