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we going to do on episode 420? Are we going to
do a bunch of LSD and shit? I mean, I would imagine
it's more weeds. I mean, I'm down to get, like,
fucking blazed, but weed doesn't do, like, that
much for me anymore. What if we both just did
hero doses for each of us? Like, for me, I would
do, like... I could do hair dose and probably
not feel much. No, but I'm saying, like, what
if we got you a fucking pack of, like... I mean,
if I ate, like, a hundred milligram brownie,
I might. That's what I was saying. I was thinking
I do a hundred and you do, like, two hundred.
Yeah. Well, I don't really normally do edibles.
Yeah, neither do I. So it would be fucking hysterical.
I mean, the podcast would be in shambles. I doubt
it would get uploaded because you and me are
just going to have a colossal panic attack. be
completely incapable of doing a podcast and then
tan and tyler are gonna be fucking calming us
down for like six hours straight yeah i don't
know if i said this on the podcast before i was
listening to that video where the guy was eating
like a nerd's rope he went to like he didn't
normally do edibles but he was eating like a
nerd's rope yeah and uh he ate the fucking whole
thing And the whole thing was 400 milligrams.
And you were supposed to only eat like one chunk
at a time, which was like 50. Was this the dude
that went to like the FaZe house or whatever?
There's a YouTube video where somebody has the
same story. I don't think so. Oh, shit. Well,
tell me how this one goes. Oh, yeah. He was just
like, I was just like sitting on the couch for
24 hours. And I felt like I was melting into
the fucking couch in the sand. And like nobody
could pull me out of it. And I felt like I was
there for an eternity. Yeah. Yeah, that's how
it fucking feels. And then I've been reading
about people who take mushrooms. Did you have
after effects or weeks after? I didn't because
I didn't do that big of a dose. But Brian, the
one who is on the podcast here, I mean, I feel
bad. And it's no offense to Tyler because Tyler
was just doing his regular thing where he yells
a lot. But I felt like Brian kind of got steamrolled
telling his mushroom story because we were on
three hours. That's what Tyler does. I know.
i know but it was he tried to tell it but no
he he like met god had a complete ego death he
100 thought he died but was like at peace like
he did a ridiculous dose i did like a little
baby dose and then he convinced me to smoke a
bunch of weed and then i think i had a panic
attack because of the weed which altered the
i really think in retrospect my shrooms trip
was like relatively minor i don't really think
i felt or saw that i mean i definitely had visual
shit But because I was so uncomfortably high,
you know me, I'm a pussy. I smoke ever so slightly
too much. It derails my fucking night. And he
convinced me to do it. But like my, I felt the
effects of the shrooms physically before I felt
them psychologically. Like I felt like this rush
of endorphins and serotonin. And I just felt
like really good. So when he told me like, oh,
it's going to make it so much better. I was like,
I can handle the weed this time. But like, man,
for me, like, I don't know. Everything just started
looking like if I looked at. the big no i can't
say actually i did have some effects that lasted
for a couple days after i'll get into that but
um like if i were to look at you right now like
if i looked at you for too long when i was on
shrooms i would you would start to have massive
bags under your eyes And you would just start
looking ghoulish. Like you would look dead. Like
you would look super pale everywhere. Like you
would look like a corpse to me. Yeah. And I don't
know if that was a manifestation of some deeply
rooted PTSD or some shit I haven't worked through
or what the fuck the root of it was. But I had
a bad time. Anybody I looked at looked like that.
Bad time. But it was like a positive reset for
your mental health, right? overall yes because
it taught me I could get through something like
that but like it wasn't like what most people
get out of a shroom trip most people they have
a really good time and it like gives them this
expanded perception and I hate to say it I really
do this is gonna make me sound super fucking
pompous but like typically what people walk away
from shrooms with is like they start thinking
like on a deep level about like the universe
and like how the earth is very small and like
how really we think so highly of ourselves as
people but we're nothing but a speck in the grand
scheme of things and like but that's where my
fucking brain sits at at a normal level That's
why I'm such a fucking anxious asshole is because
I am incapable of not being fascinated by that
shit. So all I do is read books and constantly
do research on like the fucking universe and
it fucks with my head. You start to get a skewed
perception. So people get that for like a little
bit in a positive light because of the rush of
endorphins and everything. Like shrooms make
you feel good. It pumps the happy shit in. But
for me, I think it was a combination of the weed
and then, I don't know, some shit I got knocking
around upstairs that I didn't know I had. But,
like, Brian thought he fucking died. And he said
that he just had after effects. Like, he talked
differently for a couple weeks. Like, he was
just very, very mellow. Oh, yeah. I was reading
that study. Like, they did a study where they
found that shrooms. affect your neural networks
and connections for like three to four weeks
after you do them. Yeah, for sure. People think
it's permanent and people, I don't know, anybody
who like doesn't know that fact, but does shrooms,
I feel like comes across and says like, Oh, shrooms
changed me forever. And really, I think if you
do enough acid gets in your spinal cord. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I think it does change you forever
in a certain way because it gives you a perspective
shift just in general. Cause I mean like, I don't
know, but, like, for me, even with alcohol and
weed, like, and the one time I did coke. Every
time you do those things, like, you... it kind
of rattles your brain a little bit because like
you're altering your reality in a new way like
all three of those are psychoactive in their
own very distinct separate ways like you can
tell if you're drunk you can tell if you've smoked
weed you can tell if you did fucking coke and
they all are separate feelings but they're indistinguishable
from anything else you'll ever experience and
then psychedelics are like that to like the fucking
fifth degree where it's just you're you're just
in your own little world. You're in your, like
everything, you just tune everything else out
in your brain. And like, you just, I don't know,
like shrooms in a weird way. They made me feel
like a kid. Like, I don't know. That's the best
way I could describe it. They make you feel like
a kid. And I remember I felt the same thing when
I smoked weed for the first time. Cause it was
just like, I was giggling over nothing. Like
everything's new, everything's interesting, everything's
fun. You probably have the same sort of brain
chemistry that you have when you're a kid. Something
like that. Something. Honestly, if I had to make
a theory, and this is probably way off the mark,
but I feel like because they say it promotes
neural connectivity. So you're connecting neurons
with... one another that haven't been connected
in a long time which is like the way your memory
works so ultimately you're going to be able to
tap into the way you felt things that you might
not have felt in a very long time or haven't
been able to experience emotions because everybody
thinks it's like oh it's going to make you link
your memories together i don't necessarily think
i mean i'm sure it does that to a certain extent
but i think it more touches the other parts of
your brain like emotional processing and shit
like that and ultimately shrooms are incredibly
psychedelic like even in the little bit i had
like it wasn't just like you looked scary and
it was a scary thought my brain had which i mean
i mean i guess that was exactly what it was but
it's real in the moment like you actually would
have looked like a fucking ghoul anybody would
have looked like that's the only way i can describe
is ghoulish like very corpsey not alive very
distressed in extremis like i don't know and
it was like it promoted a very negative trip
for me and we watched like i don't know he's
like i said we started with miracle on ice the
biggest thing i noticed was i was looking at
her brooks and then like all of a sudden his
face had a ton of freckles on it and it was like
i don't think kurt russell has freckles And then
one of his eyes got like really big and it looked
like this vein on his forehead was like pumping
blood into it. And the eye was getting bigger
and bigger. And ultimately when it hit me, I
think if I was sober outside of the shrooms,
I would have been like, Oh, the shrooms are kicking
in. Like that's not real, but I recognize it.
But when you hit me with the weed too, and it
gives me that baseline anxiety and it also brings
my walls down. It was like, What's real? Like,
I don't know. It was like I just had this existential
crisis off of it for no fucking reason. I want
to revisit shrooms, but I mean, I want to feel
like I want to try that. That reset of brain
chemistry. I feel like I have that to a lot of
people, you know, are afraid of a bad trip. You
should be. You should be. But ultimately, like
even people have bad trips unless you do like
a fucking hero dose. I really think that you
come out of it with a, you're going to come out
of it with a positive outlook anyways, because
if you go into a bad trip, but you didn't do
a ridiculous dose because like you can perma
fry yourself on it. My fucking mom's ex -boyfriend's
brother, like he did fucking shrooms and I think
he did shrooms and acid and he did like a good
chunk of both. Nothing like an insane dose. Like
it wasn't like he. did like 10 times what somebody
should do or anything. He did a high dose, but
it wasn't something that like you think it would
leave lifelong effects, but he has been like
socially incapable. He is just incredibly, incredibly
socially awkward. He's like the fucking lights
are on, but no one's home with him. It's kind
of like, it's just, it's weird. It's like, he
got like, he's not lobotomized because he shows
emotion, but he's just very like in his own world
and just incredibly spacey. Yeah, I feel like
I was like that. Like after I smoked a lot of
weed for the first time. Yeah, but shrooms is
like, I don't know. I wish I could give you like
the unadulterated shrooms outlook. But because
I mixed it with weed, like the more I think about
it, I really think it was just a weed. Nine out
of ten times I smoke, I don't have a good time.
but like i don't know i chase it because i don't
know maybe i'm masochistic but like it's like
yeah it's like a 30 minute like panic attack
and then after that like i'm still anxious but
like it's funny because i know i'm through the
worst of it it's like when you eat a super spicy
pepper and the spice starts to go away like it
still hurts like a motherfucker but you're coming
down it's getting better It took the edge off.
Yeah. And you can kind of enjoy the ride down
from that anxiety, but that's not healthy. Like
it's not a good reason to smoke weed. Oh yeah.
I feel like if I just did shrooms, I might've
had a really phenomenal time, but thanks Brian
for telling me to take fucking. And I didn't
smoke a little either. I was typically like one
blinker would put me on my ass. I took four blinkers.
So, like, the weed 100 % overpowered what I was
doing. And it was the dab pens me and Brian used
to do, which were, like, 95 % THC. That's like
this one. Yeah, it's just, like, it fucking annihilated
you off of nothing. Well, yeah, I feel like if
you haven't done a drug before, or I think you,
like, can get used to a drug where not if you,
like, smoke it. You'll just kind of be like,
oh, I know how I'm going to feel. So that's like
normal to you. Yeah. The after effect for me,
though, to get back to your initial question
that I've completely derailed. I wouldn't have
full fledged visual hallucinations where like
a person would like morph. But if I stared at
somebody for too long and I made a conscious
like not effort, but it's like, oh, you lost
the game. Like it's in your mind. Like it's like
if I just had like an intrusive thought of like,
hey, remember that time you did shrooms? If I
looked at somebody while thinking that they would
have either like a very light green or a dark
purple bags under their eyes that would like
appear on them. And it wasn't something that
like I was just thinking about, like I saw it
and it was very creepy because that point you're.
a week or two removed from ingesting this drug,
you know, it's no longer in your system, but
it's still affecting like the way you're cognitively
processing things. And that just always gives
the intrusive thought of what if it gets worse
somehow? And that's scary. That's really scary.
I was looking at this like creepy pasta story
this week, but it wasn't an actual story. Like
it actually happened was this guy was born with
a. two faces and there's one with a face in the
back of his head i feel like i looked this up
but it was debunked i feel like that was it oh
was it and so i think that i think i think i
think if it did if i i'm pretty sure the entire
story was bullshit But I read that too when I
looked it up. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was either
somebody was born with like a genetic malformation
of his face in the back of his head. It's possible.
I've seen like real things where like your vestigial
twin is just born like their face is on like
the side of your head or some shit. Yeah. Yeah.
So I think it was just like essentially the facial
features. But he said like the voice would just
whisper things to him that only he could hear.
Yeah. And that. That part, I'm pretty sure, was
bullshit. Like, for sure. I could be wrong. I
gotta look into it. I hope you're right, because
that's a fucking really crazy story. He said
it only said things that someone who, like, that
you only would hear while you're in hell. Yeah.
Like, I was thinking, like, what could those
words be? Didn't the guy end up, like, killing
himself, too, or something? Yeah, he killed himself
when he was 29, because it drove him fucking
insane. This thing just wouldn't shut up. They
made a movie about that. A pretty good horror
movie. Have you ever seen Malignant? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of the whole premise of that
movie. That movie did it good, though. That was
a good movie. Oh, I don't remember that one too
much. You should watch it if you haven't seen
it. Malignant, it's literally... I have when
it came out, yeah. I don't know. The weird way
the fucking body moved when it was backwards.
Dr. Weaver! I don't know. That movie was fucking
cool. Side topic here. Can I just say, Cameron
needs to come on the fucking podcast soon because
he would be amazing. He's like my little brother,
but he's a little cousin. But regardless, he
listens very occasionally. Don't give him credit.
But we watched The Shining together, and it's
like my 10th time watching it. The Shining is,
I think, might be not even my favorite horror
movie. It might be my favorite movie of all time
now. Really? I do like it a lot. that i don't
know i've seen it so many times i never i feel
like i never really truly appreciated it though
but i did actually like the book born movie but
yeah i just love stanley kubrick like in my top
10 definitely is 2001 a space odyssey but particularly
with the shining just like because like in the
book i feel like in the book in the movie jack
kind of just like went crazy automatically for
no reason. But in the book, it's actually explained
how like he gradually like fell into this ghost
that was overtaking him. I think, I really think
that the movie did a good job with that. I don't
think it was as sudden as you might remember
it because it's a slow burn. Like it's a very
slow burn, but you can see and like. i was just
theorizing after because the movie ultimately
does kind of end differently than the book does
too because like in the book what there's like
a massive explosion in the boiler room right
and it blows the whole fucking there is at one
point yeah yeah it blows the whole overlook hotel
up and that doesn't happen in the movie the overlook
hotel is still there jack nicholson dies in the
fucking maze and freezes to death but yeah he
doesn't freeze he fucking I think he blew himself
up with a boiler. Cause that's like a big thing
in the book. Yeah. It's like, you have to go,
uh, check the pressure in the boiler every day
or something, or else it just fucking goes so
high that it blows up the entire hotel. Like
who the fuck, who the fuck designed that? I talked
to the coworker. It was pretty cool. Cause my
coworker had read the book, but never seen the
movie. I've seen the movie but never read the
book so we were kind of like comparing just talking
about it because I'm like the massive film guy
and she's like a massive book chick so we were
both just kind of gushing about why we love them
for their separate reasons and ultimately the
ending was a big thing that's completely different
because when I was talking about how I had a
theory of the ending of the book which Kubrick
Kubrick's an asshole and he'll occasionally go
in interviews and he'll say shit that he doesn't
believe and he just loves making an enigma and
all the people who are true kubrick fans know
he just likes fucking with fans which one's he
he's the director he's the yeah he was the director
of the movie uh stanley kubrick oh um he directed
2001 a space odyssey too there's a handful of
other ones that were all massive movies he was
like late 60s to uh i believe early 90s he was
doing movies i can't remember exactly but um
no the fucking the shining's just crazy the attention
to detail is insane like when they walk in and
like doc the kid fucking meets uh it's it's the
intro shot where the kid's walking into the bar
area of the hotel everybody's still in the hotel
it's when everybody's about to pack their shit
up and leave they're kind of just like oh the
caretaker's here and you can even though neither
of them are the focal point of the shot jack
is they walk into the room and you can see how
uh mr halloran's face the the chef you see him
look at doc and just go like oh because you see
that he recognizes that the kid has the shining
and then he like you see him snap out of it and
like be like he needs to go back to his job being
a chef and i've watched that movie like i said
like probably close to 10 times at this point
i never picked up on that detail Until now. And
then at that point I was like, holy shit, there's
a lot of shit like this. And then throughout
the movie, there is so many things that are just
intricate details and the way people deliver
lines that carry massive connotations without
them speaking. And like the acting, especially
Jack Nicholson is just fucking so insanely good.
I just, I don't know. Jack Nicholson's performance
in that I think is unrivaled in terms of movies.
He, he plays the psycho. He looks like the psycho
phenomenally phenomenal. I just don't get why
they changed the, uh, the details from the book
to the movie and things so much. I like, I feel
like the book was already fucking good. Like
why do you got to change it? Because Stanley
Kubrick's a fucking mastermind to the ending
and the separate, like the brand, you need to
look at it as its own piece of media. Yes, it's
based off of The Shining. That's the way you
got to think of it. It's not a retelling of The
Shining. It is based off of The Shining, but
it's its own story because the ending is completely
different. Like in the in the book, it's like
it says whatever. It's like 1913, the Overlook
Hotel and Jack's in the picture. And for the
longest time, I was like. wow. Like, what does
that mean? Is there some sort of reincarnation?
Like, like how would he get there before then?
This movie takes place in the eighties. None
of this makes any sense, but at the same time,
the ghost of the previous caretaker, I can't
remember his name. Um, but he says like, Oh,
you're, uh, you're, um, whatchamacallit. you've
always been the caretaker. You've always been
here. I should know. I've always been here. But
then, especially after, if you watch the movie
or read the book, Dr. Sleep, I've read Dr. Sleep.
I have not, um, watched, I've read and watched
the movie. It's too like far away from what The
Shining was. Like I didn't. get into it that
much but it is it's very far away but it explains
a lot of the intricacies which it under it really
teaches you what the shining is and the shining
is like a weird form of like for lack of a better
term it's like the force in star wars like you
can communicate with people there's certain people
that have telekinesis if they have it and a lot
of people do view that as a sharp departure from
the shining and they kind of just tune it out
but ultimately the big place and they explain
it in the movie and i believe in the book but
not super well because it's to be a detail you
kind of have to dig up places can have the shining
too so all the ghosts in the overlook hotel they're
probably not even real people but that place
the grounds there because it's built on that
indian burial grounds and throughout the movie
at least i can't remember i mean i didn't read
the book but throughout the throughout the book
they talk about like several different instances
where fucked up shit has happened at the overlook
hotel which makes the place the entity of the
hotel gain power it started on the indian burial
ground where there was constant conflicts between
the indian tribes then they fucking um start
constructing the hotel and the indians are like
why are you building a hotel in our indian burial
grounds we're gonna fucking murder you so then
there's those deaths then after that there's
a fucking snowmobiling accident or no there's
like a plane crash or a snowmobiling accident
they got like eight people killed on the grounds
that you hear over the radio in the background
it's not even the focal part of the shot and
then they tell him that the fucking previous
caretaker murdered his kids the one thing i can't
sort out with kubrick though is because those
kids in the movie are definitely fucking twins
but when jack nicholson's character walks in
there for his interview and he tells him what
happened the the interviewer tells him what happened
the year before said that he calls the kids i
think five and three like those kids were not
five and three they were twins so why did they
look like twins yeah no they weren't girls in
the book i think they're boys yeah and it was
like a lot different but the uh overlook hotel
was actually based on uh that real hotel in Colorado,
the Stanley Hotel. Yeah. That's kind of like
some ghost hunting shows. So like a lot of that
legend and the stuff that happened there is actually
true. They fucking investigated that place. Well,
that one was just like a... There was, like,
a bunch of murders, and then somebody jumped
off, like, the roof or something, right? Like,
there was a bunch of shit that happened. Yeah,
and then Stephen King actually visited there,
and he stayed there, and that's what inspired
the story. Yeah. Yeah, because ultimately, like,
Overlook is about, I think the major themes,
the takeaways from there, one, it's the shining.
It's the shining. It's the power, like, how the
kid can... telepathically communicate with the
doctor. I mean, not the doctor, the chef, which
is why he comes from wherever the fuck he lives,
like Florida or wherever, hops on the plane to
fucking Chicago and wherever the hell it was
and gets up there in the snowcat. But at the
same time, the Overlook Hotel has the shine too.
But ultimately, I think the primary theme is
isolation and just how that sense of isolation
and being with the same people for several days
can just cause... madness and just fucking psychosis
because that's ultimately what ends up happening
in the movie. And he does a great job with it.
But the thing that I ended up taking away from
the movie this time around was that at the end,
I can never sort out why Jack Nicholson's the
picture at the end. I don't think that Jack Nicholson
was ever in like 1913 or anything. My true theory,
and it just makes so much more sense to my person,
my brain is Jack did die. and wendy and doc escaped
but because the hotel is its own like paranormal
supernatural entity it essentially just put him
on that picture it manipulated that picture and
put jack nicholson's character on it to claim
him as like a trophy to like like it absorbed
him yeah i think it was just symbolic because
in the book it was just like he didn't actually
become the guy just the the ghost of that guy
um possessed him so much that he like became
one with him yeah so great fucking movie though
just phenomenal great book i remember i was reading
it when i was at uh mohawk actually like in the
winter it was like it was a good winter book
god i fucking love books i gotta start reading
them again damn i used to read like one a week
I've been fucking slacking lately. Now I just
listen to a fucking YouTube video with my headphones
in it where I can shut my eyes and pretend to
sleep. It's so lazy. I should be reading. That's
so much better for your brain. A lot of people
now I feel like have so much ADHD. Yeah. I mean,
I'm still not watching TikToks, not regularly.
Occasionally, YouTube will get me with the shorts,
but... At least you're not an American idiot,
Ellie Mac. So you've been keeping up with the
politics lately? Not really. I mean, I did see
the blockbuster news today of that fucking letter
that Donald Trump said he didn't fucking write.
Oh, his birthday letter, yeah. Well, no, so Mike
Johnson originally said that... Trump was an
FBI informant. Oh, I did hear that. Yeah, that's
fucking crazy. That's hysterical. So who was
the guy that said that? What role does that guy...
Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I feel like after he
said that shit, Trump was probably like... He's
like Trump's fucking chummy, or whatever you
want to call it. Oh, my God. He will say anything
for Trump. Dude, they're not even trying to cover
it up at this point. Nobody believes them at
all. And then I think he just said today that
he was like, oh, I made a mistake. Because it's
like, why would Trump be an FBI informant to
a file? So he backtracked on it now? Well, he
said it's a hoax by the Democrats, but he was
an informant to the hoax by the Democrats. Doesn't
make sense. Yeah. But no, but he backtracked
on the FBI statement now already. Yeah. Well,
yeah. He just said that. He just made that shit
up. Trump didn't even tell him to say that. I
know. That's just what fucking blew my mind.
How do you blow it? That dude walked into that
interview and picked every wrong speech option.
He failed every speech check if that was a fucking
fallout. Have you seen the most recent episodes
of South Park? Yeah. Trump is fucking Satan well
the last one I saw was he was it was the fucking
chick who's like not in charge but she's like
the primary figure in like ice and was shooting
puppies that was the last one I saw that one
was fucking hysterical this last one they were
like they had Trump and he's like in bed with
Satan and it was like that was the episode before
yeah and it's heavily you might not remember
the South Park lore behind that But the only
other person that they've used, like, a photorealistic
face for, whose, like, mouth is moved like that,
was Saddam Hussein. Saddam, yeah. Yeah, and it
was voiced by the same actor. Like, it's implying
that it's... And Satan even says, like, you're
just like my ex. Dude, I listened to... So, JD
Vance, his little midget guy, came on in the
last episode, and me and Megan just lost it because
of his fucking voice. Oh, my God. I wonder if
you'll find it, actually. Oh. Yeah, yeah. His
fucking voice. It's so fucking... You know if,
like, South Park starts railing you, like, you
fucked up. Well, the thing is, though, and I
feel like people do need to keep this in perspective,
is because everybody's like, oh, fucking South
Park's woke now. Like, they're super leftist.
No, they're not leftist. They make fun of whoever's
being fucking retarded at that point in time.
Yeah. Like, they've shit on the left just as
much as they have shit on the right. So... But...
So that was what they were saying was the theme
of the episode was Satan was pregnant with Trump's
baby. And Fox News was like, we called it. Yeah,
we called it fucking Satan's pregnant with Trump's
baby. Wow. That's wild. But I feel like. Fox
News questions the president's relationship with
Satan as they note that. But I feel like that's
what like a lot of people on. um certain sides
don't understand is like your side can fuck up
and you have to kind of admit it and realize
that i fucked somebody up in a fucking i'm not
usually one who comments on youtube videos and
like be like actually like i'm not i'm not one
of those people but it was a fuck who was it
it was um shane gillis was kind of roasting joe
rogan because of how much joe rogan's been selling
out lately like he's having all these fucking
like he's had a handful of billionaires on and
he acts like he's best buddies with him and he
admits that he's been like wined and dined by
these people and rogan's taking a lot of heat
for that right now and yeah i think he's the
guy that got trump elected honestly yeah but
uh it wasn't just him trump played his cards
well he went to the uninformed teenagers who
just listen to fucking podcasts that are all
like politically charged and want to be different
and they want to be anti -woke and they just
like, they don't even talk about anything political
on the podcasts, but like ultimately Trump poses
himself as a likable guy. Well, you got, you
got you guys. Okay. Did South Park just get me
though? Casey, did he get me? Nobody fucking
knows. Nobody knows. At this point, even if I
told the truth, you guys wouldn't fucking believe
me, but. Probably not, but why don't you just
clear it once and for all, AMAC? I mean, if I
clear it once and for all, you're not going to
believe me. I've done this multiple times. I
mean, all right, I'll be truthful right now.
I voted Kamala, but I voted Republican across
the board outside of that. Oh, okay. That's what
I figured was when you said that you didn't vote
for the same party for president. That you voted
for Kamala. Yeah, that would be pretty fucking...
I mean, the piece that I think Dan and Tyler
are still having trouble connecting. I mean,
I feel like if you know me, that's believable.
I have right -wing local politics, but in terms
of a national level, Trump's out of his fucking
mind. So, like... I voted for Kamala and I went
across the board, but then seeing how fucking
tense it gets, Dan and Tyler, I love fucking
flipping it back and forth. It's pretty, Dan
will probably listen to this. Yeah. So another
thing that was, uh, RFK has been like in the
news lately too. Did you see the fucking thing
with him and fucking, uh, Bernie Sanders? I was
going to say, I didn't see it, but that might
be like a good thing to watch on the podcast.
Oh my God, dude. Bernie slams him. So it was
Bernie and RFK. And there was another one where
like, Elizabeth Warren and him got into a blowout
screen match. Did you see that one? I didn't
see that one. Oh, man. Let me see the one with
the... The one with Birdie is fucking great because
just watching the video, and for any of the listeners,
not that there's any of you out there, none of
you email us, so I don't believe in your existence,
but regardless, fucking he... And Bernie's like,
Bernie's like, we have all these sources that
are saying the vaccines are completely safe and
not just the COVID, but like all of them, like
every major health organization agrees that they're
safe. Like, what are your sources? And then he
kind of stammers a little bit. He lists off like
two names and he quotes Dr. Haas. I'll let it
play. Are you telling us that the former head
of CDC went to you? You asked her, are you a
trustworthy person? And she said. No, I am not
a trustworthy person. She didn't say, no, I'm
not a trustworthy person. She said, no. Wow.
I'm giving a quote. And I asked her twice. No,
no, one second. And you're also repeating now
that she is a liar, correct? What she wrote in
the Wall Street Journal. She wrote that I fired
her because she refused to sign on in advance
for. the ace of committee no that's not accurate
all right you're calling her a liar and i look
forward to her coming before the health committee
maybe this committee as well all right mr secretary
i've got a bunch of questions appreciate brevity
and answering it so -called beautiful bill through
15 million americans off of healthcare substantially
raised premiums This might be a ways before what
I was talking about. Nursing homes, community
health centers, rural hospitals all over America.
Very briefly, is that really making America healthy
again? I wouldn't be confident voting him because
his mind's going to go soon. It's going to be
the biggest infusion of federal dollars into
rural health care in American history. You know
why? Because you're cutting $150 billion for
rural hospitals. You're putting $50 billion back.
That's not an infusion. That's a loss of $100
million. billion dollars. All right. Next question.
President Trump, who I don't usually agree with,
called COVID vaccines, quote, one of the greatest
miracles in the history of modern day medicine
that saved tens of millions of lives worldwide.
Scientific community agrees with Trump. Lancet
study found that it prevented almost 20 million
deaths during their first year of use. Yeah,
now it's getting to the part. Secretary Kennedy,
President Trump and the medical community, right?
Or do you still believe that the COVID vaccine
was, quote, the deadliest vaccine ever made?
First of all, I didn't say that. I said that
in terms of affairs reports a while ago. I said
today, I think that President Trump should get
the Nobel Prize. So who's right? Is Trump in
the medical community right or are you right?
President Trump did an extraordinary piece of
leadership. Is he right or wrong? Did COVID save
millions of lives? As I said, he got Americans
back to work. At that time, that particular vaccine
was perfectly matched to the virus that was circulating
then. And I have no idea how many lives it saved,
but it saved quite a few. You know, what I find
a little bit weird in this discussion, I'm hearing
it over and over again this morning, Mr. Chairman,
is we've got the entire medical community on
one side. You've got the AMA representing hundreds
of thousands of doctors. the American Academy
of Pediatrics, the American Public Health Association,
all of these organizations are telling us that
COVID vaccine and vaccines in general are safe
and effective. You are casting doubt on that.
Who are your scientific, who are the organizations
that are agreeing with you in casting aspersions
on vaccines? Watch the chick in the background
here. The primary advisors are Marty McCary,
Jay Bhattacharya, Dr. Oz. I've got a few doctors
who agree with you. Dr. Oz, bro? Dr. Oz, yeah,
I actually made the health secretary earlier,
surgeon general. which has been co -opted by
the pharmaceutical industry. So you're telling
me, you're telling the American people that the
American Medical Association, representing hundreds
of thousands of people, have been co -opted and
that they should not trust their doctors. Yeah,
Trump actually made Dr. fucking Oz the Surgeon
General. Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Don't give Dr. Oz too much credit, bro. He's
a TV personality. Packed money for the pharmaceutical
industry. Are they all corrupt as well? And I'm
telling you, the American Heart Association has
been co -opted by the... Everybody but you, Senator.
But you know what? When you ran for president,
you know, we have a corrupt campaign finance
system. Maybe you will agree with me on that.
Okay, you were running for president. You got
a billionaire behind it. You received $300 ,000
from people, not from the industry, people in
it, as I did, from individuals. You corrupt.
President Trump got... $3 million. Every Republican
got corporate PAC money for the pharmaceutical
industry. Democrats as well. Everybody is corrupt,
but you? Is that what we're looking at? I don't
think so. I don't even know what you're talking
about. Yeah, sure you don't, Vince. Get the fuck
out of here. Are you saying the pharmaceutical
industry was supporting my presidential campaign?
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying the pharmaceutical
industry is a greedy, institution which is charging
us the highest prices in the world, they are
pervasive. But to suggest that every institution,
the AMA, the pediatrics people, is corrupt because
they disagree with you is an insult to the American
people. Listen, people disagree with me all the
time. I have arguments in my agency. heated arguments
every day with Jay Bhattacharya, with Marty McCary,
with Dr. Oz. You have given the names of a few
people. I have given you the names of organizations
You don't sound credible to bring Dr. Oz into
it. You really don't. It's unreal. It's unreal.
I like can't even like process that the fact
that that was like a name he threw out there
and the eye roll from the chick in the background
when he says Dr. Oz is fucking hysterical. She
just rolls her head back like, oh my God, Dr.
Fucking Oz. Like, really? I couldn't even believe
that when I heard it. I'd like I'm not even I
don't even pay attention to politics. Somehow
that came up in my YouTube recommended and was
like, wait, what? i gotta see how uh apparently
warren laid into him even more thank you senator
warren thank you mr chairman so last november
while you are under consideration to become secretary
of health and human services Mr. Kennedy, you
said, quote, if vaccines are working for somebody,
I'm not going to take them away. No exceptions,
no ifs, ands, or buts. You would not take away
vaccines from anyone who wanted them. Then last
week, you announced that the COVID -19 vaccine
is no longer approved for healthy people under
the age of 65. In announcing the change, you
said the vaccine will be available for anyone
who wants it. both things cannot be true at the
same moment so let's clear this up right now
secretary kennedy will you tell america that
all adults and all children over six months of
age are eligible to get a covid booster at their
local pharmacy today anybody can get the booster
i'm sorry anybody can get it anybody so you're
saying that is now the official rule of hhs Anybody
is eligible to get a booster by just walking
into the pharmacy. It's not recommended for healthy
people. No, no. If you don't recommend, then
the consequence of that in many states... is
that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one.
It means insurance companies don't have to cover
the $200 or so cost. As Senator Dr. Cassidy said,
you are effectively denying people vaccines.
We're not going to recommend a product for which
there's no clinical data for that indication.
Is that what I should be doing? What you should
be doing is honoring your promise that you made
when you were looking to get confirmed in this
job. You're going like this. And that is you
promised. that you would not take away vaccines
from anyone who wanted them. You just changed
the classification of the COVID vaccine. I'm
not taking them away from people, Senator. It
takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy.
Well, most Americans are going to be able to
get it from their pharmacy for free. Most Americans
will be able to get it from their pharmacy. The
question is, everyone who wants it. That was
your promise. I never promised that I was going
to recommend products with which there is no
indication. And I know you've taken $855 ,000
from pharmaceutical companies, Senator. Did you
hold up a big sign saying that you were lying?
When you said that, because you are the one who
said you would not take them away. Now, Senator.
I'm not taking them away from Secretary. You
want me to indicate a product for which there
is no clinical data? Is that what you want? Secretary
Kennedy said you wouldn't, and now you did. I'm
not taking them away. Everybody can get access
to them. No, they can't walk into a pharmacy
the way they could last month and get access.
It depends on the states. But they can still
get it. Everybody can get it. Everybody can get
it, Senator. So look, let's move on. You clearly
are taking away vaccines. I've seen the list
for what's coming up next, and that is the agenda
for the next CDC vaccine panel. And first up
is ratifying your COVID actions. Second is hepatitis
B is on the agenda. So should Americans expect
you to take away hepatitis vaccine access as
well, even though you promised not to? As I said,
I'm not taking vaccines away from anybody. Same
answer, right? You're just going to deny that
when people can't get access, that you're not
taking it away. Then let me ask you, is that
the same game you're going to play with? So you
want me to recommend every product in the world?
No. Without any clinical trial data. On your
promises. Yeah, my promise was to give. A month
ago, we could get COVID vaccines by just walking
through a car. You can still get COVID vaccines,
Senator. You are taking that away. No, you are
still. You can still get the COVID vaccines and
Medicare will still pay for them. I kind of get
where he's coming from to a certain extent. It's
a bad stance to take. That if she refused to
sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine
schedule. that she had to resign no i told her
that she had to resign because i asked her are
you a trustworthy person and she said no so if
you had an employee who told you they weren't
trustworthy would you ask them to resign senator
so i'm sorry but this is not what she has said
publicly she has i'm not surprised about that
so you're saying she's lying yes Every conversation
I had with her, there were witnesses. And let
me get this straight. This is the same person
that less than a month earlier, you stood next
to her and described her as unimpeachable, and
you had full confidence in her, and that you
had full confidence in her scientific credentials.
And in a month, she became a liar? Yeah, you
should ask her what changed. And by the way,
a month ago, you were voting against her. Oh,
because you thought she was either incompetent,
ineligible, or unsuited to the task. RFK, when
he gets mad, he looks like a robot that's, like,
broken. Yeah, he does. I mean, I kind of agree
with her because, like, a lot of insurance companies
don't cover shit unless they have, like, the
government says that's, like, necessary i get
it but like i understand too like she was trying
to throw zingers out there too to a certain extent
where like i understand what rfk was trying to
get at ultimately like what she said was still
correct and i still side with her but um i see
what don like i i see what what rfk is trying
to say he's he's trying to say like i'm not you're
you're she was spinning his words a little bit
But ultimately, the stance he's taking still
isn't a good one. I think if the government says
it's not medically necessary, insurance companies,
who their main goal is to profit, it's not to
give people health care. The purpose of health
insurance in America is not to give people health
care. It's to profit off of people who don't
get health care. No, and I get that. But he's
going off of the technicality, however fucking
horrible it is, saying that. like i'm still not
taking them away you can still get them they
might just not being covered by insurance which
is a fucking problem but that's the stance he's
taking there he's like i'm not taking them away
anybody can get them just fucking yeah how many
people can't get them now because they can't
like pay a hundred dollars i'm sure a lot yeah
i'm sure a fucking lot I got to take a raging
piss. All right, we'll take a break. God, yeah,
usually I could just dip out here, but nobody
else showed up, so it's us. We'll be back on
Jeffrey Epstein Podcast. Welcome back to our
podcast. I'm here with Allie Mack and Grok. Welcome,
Grok. Last time, Grok roasted Dan a lot. It was
fucking funny. Dan's still sore about that. That's
crazy. That's crazy. Nice to meet you, Grock.
Nice to meet you, too. We were talking about
the World Trade Center this week. We got 9 -11
this week. September 9th. 24th year. We're getting
old. We're getting old. I know. We're going to
be the only ones that remember 9 -11. Grok, where
were you on 9 -11? Honestly, I wasn't around.
Born too late, like you said. We both missed
it. But I've read every board of inquiry, watched
every tape, and man, it's wild hearing you relive
it like that. Still feels like yesterday to you?
Yeah. I mean, I was three years old, so I don't
remember it that well, if at all. Makes sense.
You would have been, what, eating crayons? But
the way it changed everything, parents still
flinch when planes fly low. What kind of sucks
will be the last ones to carry that memory firsthand.
Yeah, Allie Beck's a real crayon eater. She?
Oh my goodness. How dare you misgender me, Grock?
My bad. Won't happen again. It's all right. It's
all right. I don't take it personally. Good.
Because if you're going to walk like that, I'm
just going to keep talking. Wow. All right. I
love it. I fucking love it. Now your eyes are
going to have me rattled for this fucking game.
What do you think, Alleyback? Do you think we
can work on a 21? Pilots influence song. I mean,
we could. Here on the podcast. We could. I'll
play it for you. Tell me what you think. See
if you can come up with any ideas. It's called
Growing Old. Okay. Yep. 21 Pilots? God, I haven't
heard that in years. That one hits like a really
pretty panic attack. Death, yeah. Let's lean
into that. You want to do a version that sounds
like you're aging backwards or like you're trapped
in a memory loop? Because if I'm picking a vibe,
I'm picking mom's funeral, but everyone brought
kazoos. All right, Grock, shut the fuck up for
a second. Okay. You wrote the first three lines.
The rest is up to you. Can you tell me what those
first three lines were just so I can make sure
I'm hearing them correctly? Yeah. Sure. Your
mind is playing tricks on you. Death. End. So
it's maybe it's gone today. Maybe it blows away.
I don't control the weather. Got a little verse
here. Maybe it's gone today. Maybe it's gone
away. I don't control the weather. Yeah. Better
is the easy ride there. Seems the older I get,
things just don't get better. Oh, shit. I like
that. My idea for the course was I know times
have changed. That's all that's got to change.
I'm sorry. You got to turn it down a little bit.
I'm having trouble hearing you. Yeah, so my idea
for the course was I know times have changed.
That's all that's got to change. Fair enough.
I like it. I like it. A little breakdown here.
Little build up here. You know, like the major
influence I'm hearing here. What's that? It's
like a slightly, it's a slightly punkier like
U2, but it's a good vibe. I feel like a major
U2 kind of vibe coming from this. I'm not saying
that in a bad way, but it feels like a. newer
grungier youtube yeah so let me it's it's got
a good sound to it let me see what you think
about this so uh i'll build up here bass interlude
here comes the rap this is what I gotta write
is the rap right here I feel like I might be
incapable of that right now send me send me the
audio to this though and I I think I can stir
something up I can work on it on my own and come
up with something I think Of course. Let's go
to a soft ending. Oh, second breakdown. I mean,
it's got a really good build to it. Both breakdowns
fucking slap super hard. I'm just trying to like...
I feel like after the show that me and Kyle did,
I was pretty inspired to write some music. I've
got a lot of people texting me that I used to
play with. Be like, oh, we should play. That's
fucking badass, man. You should fucking do it.
Well, yeah. I mean, it's like people that are
like... Like my sister, who I taught to play
guitar and piano, and some other friends I used
to have that wanted jam. But it would be just
cool to have a collab album, like a debut demo
album, that involved contributions of people
I know, like songwriting credits. That would
be so fucking sick. Yeah. There was one song
that Megan was singing on that was like a rock
ballad that Kyle was kind of listening to. Fuck
yeah. Fuck yeah. That's a fucking awesome idea.
That's a really, really good idea. I got to get
my brother in here on drums for something. Because,
dude, I'm telling you, like, I can't. Like you,
you are a jack of all trades. You can play guitar.
You can play drums. You can play piano. You're
over there fucking around on a Kalimba. Like
you got it all. My brother is super honed in
on drums and he is like, I don't know. He's like
one of those dudes. He hears a song. He can come
up with a perfect, perfect fucking beat to it.
He recognizes when the builds are before they
even come in. He knows when the breakdowns are
coming. when they're coming, he knows how to
hit them. Like he would be like plug and play
for like a crazy fucking solo. My brother's Phil's
like, he is just, he is incredibly talented at
the drums. I just got to get him fucking in here.
Cause I really want to play with him because
if he's fucking drumming, I mean, I've already,
I've already talked to just going to my brother's
place and just jamming with him and coming up
with shit, but sorry, I got it. Oh yeah. So it's
crazy. Cause like, I have multiple people I know
that... I have this drummer, Jason, who I've
been playing with for years. But there's also
your brother on the drums. And Kyle, who I've
been playing with recently, and his friend who
is in rehab, who plays guitar. His other friend
who wants to play guitar. Fucking... you know,
Kyle singing, you're singing, Tyler plays bass,
fucking Tabor was like, let's practice and I'll
play bass because he's been learning lately.
That's fucking awesome, man. There's just like
a bunch of people. This is all because of the
clips you posted from that show? I feel like
a lot of it, yeah. That's fucking awesome, man.
I've been more like taking, you know, the writing
and shit seriously. more you got a knack for
it you always have you hear a song you can get
that shit down on any instrument you want like
within 10 minutes even that but like every time
you've played like even your covers or your recreations
of other songs they're fucking spot on like it's
it's you got a knack for it for sure it would
be I think you're making the right idea. Just
get your shit out there and fucking collaborate.
See what fucking works for you, what fits your
style. This is a big confidence boost to know
that we're doing good when we play live by the
reaction that we got from the crowd that day.
I think a lot of people just like live music
that they can relate to. That crowd was like...
You also pick a lot of guys in their 50s and
like a woman that me and Kyle were talking about
last time. She was like, oh, my God, did you
play Pearl Jam? I used to listen to that song.
That song came back when I was in high school.
And Kyle was like, oh, I wasn't even born yet.
Yeah, but that's fucking badass, though. And
that's what I'm saying. Like you guys, like the
one. major worry i have because like i know like
if we went into a place like swifties and did
an open mic and i did some 21 pilots we would
really have to fucking kill that shit spot on
to get much from the crowd because that's just
not a taste in music that most people have but
like yeah but i feel like they're not a grateful
dead crowd either but like they're not as divisive
so my piano teacher is the one who like runs
the open mic night And the kid that I was talking
about playing after me was playing Grateful Dead
songs. So I feel like, I don't know, the crowd
liked that too. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're
right. I think I would be most comfortable in
an open mic because I think I would need that
confidence boost to really want to. get any shit
out there on my end too. And I feel like it would
make me take it seriously too. Like I'm looking
for a fucking hobby right now. And I mean, like
I said, like I've been getting into, I really
want to learn either bass or piano. The only
thing that really makes me want to learn bass
is just how much. music they have where it's
drums bass they have like the an electronic backtrack
or something like that but like tyler joseph
and a lot of them he's singing while doing complex
bass shit and it's really fucking cool because
you don't see a lot of people do that and i don't
know that that's really cool to me i've always
liked the bass i've never gone after it though
because we've kind of always just been like oh
like that's like tyler does the bass it's like
i don't i've always been like oh i'll learn guitar
but like i feel like my passion would be more
in the bass but I want to learn piano too. I
think that I could really fuck with piano. I
can teach you some things about piano if you
want, but. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. My goal is I want
to be able to sing and play the piano. That's
like something where like when you, I don't know,
every YouTube video where I watch where some
dude is just fucking killing it, both on the
piano and vocals. And especially if it's like
just piano and vocals. You know when you're going
to sing every line. There's way less coordination.
You can draw out notes as long as you want, start
the next part of the song whenever the fuck you
want, and that's cool to me. I want to get to
that level, but playing an instrument and singing,
singing's already incredibly difficult for me.
It took a really long time to be comfortable
just performing in front of people. I feel like
that was recently just the first time where I
felt like... I'm kind of just confident in playing
out. For me, I don't think I have as big of a
wall when it comes to the public. It's more like
hearing you guys, that showed me for sure. I'll
completely be honest as to why I was apprehensive
to do it. Every time we jam here, we're still
off a little bit. If we practice a song we played
a couple times, we get it down good, and it fucking
sounds really good. I work out the kinks with
my singing. You work out the cup. the kinks with
whatever instrument you're playing for that song
yeah then it sounds good but typically when i've
come over to jam we play one song each time and
we kind of fucking butcher it and then we just
move on to the next we're a little off but i
think yeah me and kyle just kind of play this
yeah those songs every time yeah and that's like
that's that's what i really want to do because
like to me it's like occasionally i feel like
i'm fucking hitting the vocals and it's really
cool and like if you could just run that back
like three more times that builds that confidence
of like i could go in front of people the public's
not as big of a as a wall for me it's more proving
to myself like singing in front of you is already
a fucking major wall that i am still continuously
breaking down i'm still tight and i'm still not
singing perfectly the right way i'm still not
able to hit notes here that i can hit when i'm
in my car alone or in the shower in the morning
and that's something that kind of gets to me
a little bit but every time i come here i'm a
little bit better i'm starting to hit the high
notes i'm starting to sink into it like i always
sound like shit on the first song and then i
kind of loosen up and it's like yeah i was like
shitting a brick because i thought i was gonna
have to sing and i was trying to like i was remembering
trying to remember the lyrics to december by
collective soul i was like writing them down
on my arm because like i thought um Jason was
coming, but he didn't come. Yeah. Because he,
like, he has a lot of stage fright. Gotcha. But,
and then Kyle came, and I was like, oh, I don't
actually have to sing, so that's good. So I felt
better about it. But I think you just gotta have,
like, two songs that you just practice a lot.
Yeah. Like, I really think that, like, if we
were to do... something where I was singing where
I'd, I'd be completely open to it. I think green
day would be really good, at least good riddance.
And then like a couple of songs that are a little
bit, a little bit, a little bit more comfortably
in my wheelhouse singing just to build that initial
confidence. And then I could build up to doing
shit. That's a little bit more intricate, a little
bit higher notes, more sustained notes like that.
I think, cause like, I know I can do green day
pretty well. that would be a big confidence boost
to me and then ultimately i think like as i'm
saying this like it's not going to affect me
at all the first time singing in front of people
i'll definitely be a little bit nervous but even
if i'm nervous green day is my safe pick green
day red hot chili peppers i can do that shit
like in my sleep but i think the 21 pilots is
pretty unique because like how many 21 pilots
cover bands you know that like you can actually
go listen to yeah yeah and i mean if there's
one band that i have lyrics down for i mean like
realistically i mean it's the same as like when
we're out there like i need to read a line a
handful of times like if it's like a super intricate
part of a rap like i knew all these songs by
heart and i was fucking rapping them no problem
when i was in high school like it was like without
like i was perfect every time there was no issue
with it but that's because i listen to it all
the time i don't do that but if i had a reason
to like if we're practicing i would get every
song down so well we're like i know i'm getting
a little tongue tied occasionally but like even
then it like the one time we ran back whatever
song it was i worked out every kink i had in
it and there's the one fuck what song did we
start off with today oh we i yeah i can't remember
we started off with i was stressed out yeah yeah
i was stressed out and stressed out like i know
that song front and back and like but the switching
the register like no i was stressed out like
that i know that tripped me up a little bit and
i couldn't even hear like you know it takes a
while to because i couldn't even hear myself
at first but you kind of just have to yeah used
to uh Like checking the levels and shit. Yeah,
like if we did like if we played each song like
10 15 times Maybe even less we got down before
that that would give me the confidence Well,
it would have to be a song that doesn't have
like a backing track Yeah, cuz like I mean at
least the open mic that we played you couldn't
there wasn't really a way to Plug in like a backing
track from YouTube or some shit Yeah. You just
have to kind of play it live. So I think like
we did like Taxi Cab where it was just like me
playing piano. That was good. Yeah. Yeah. We
could either have you on the piano or we could
or we could do like in terms of Green Day, I
would only want to do one Green Day song because
I feel like there's enough songs that are within
our wheelhouse that would appeal to that type
of crowd to the other one that comes to mind
is like if we did. good riddance and then the
one thing that i really liked we kind of fucked
around a little bit with last time when kyle
was here and we were jamming um we did hurt by
johnny cash and you and me never did the full
song but i jumped up an octave and you were on
acoustic and it sounded really good yeah at least
to me it was just like because it was a different
take on it it wasn't like the johnny cash because
I can sing like Johnny Cash. But it doesn't sound
good. I'm an octave higher than that. It was
difficult for me to break through that wall,
and I would occasionally be fucking my octave
up. But once I got into it, we did a chorus where
it was an octave higher, and I was doing more
power vocals than I was the... long, drawn -out,
sustained tones that Johnny Cash has. Yeah, that's
what I always have trouble with because my voice
is, like, lower, and I always, like, struggle
to sing, like, more alto or... Yeah. For me,
I'm fucking alto. Like, higher up. Yeah. But
a lot of the songs that are, like, mainstream
rock and pop have, like, a higher register. Yeah.
The only thing, and I'm getting better at it
a lot because I've been, I've been trying to
sing 21 pilots in my car a lot is, and every
album he does it more is Tyler Joseph switches
registers all the time. And that, that's a little
bit tough where it's like, uh, Kyle did a great
job with that. And I creep, he actually, he went
to the high part and he actually hit all those,
those high notes, falsetto notes. That's awesome.
The only thing that worries me about Kyle is
he belts everything like, and it's not like,
uh, cause like for, kyle kyle has better vocal
chords than i do in the way that he can he can
belt songs like that for like two hours straight
if i sang the way that kyle did for like 10 minutes
i completely fry my chords and but it sounds
amazing it he's literally like it has that kurt
cobain grit to it that you can't get with like
a vocal fry scream like an ah like that's yeah
he's like going all out yeah he's actually yelling
and screaming because i told him we practiced
the day before i was like don't talk tomorrow
until we get to the yeah yeah because i mean
but like a scream like that it conveys emotion
it's gonna get crowd presence because you're
not just loud on front of the mic when you belt
that loud they can hear you over the mic especially
when you get like the uh you know like the voice
cracks that i think kurt and kyle actually got
kind of, like, give a real feel to it. Yeah,
it's more authentic. It's not, like, you're not
shooting for perfection, you're shooting for
emotion. Which, that's, I think you kind of,
I mean, that makes you different. The only thing
is that that can fry your cords. Like, I, if
I'm pissed off, like, if I had a really fucking
bad day at work, and I'm on my way home from
work, I fucking scream like that in my car. but
I wouldn't want to get in the habit of doing
that. Like personally, like his vocal, I mean,
he sings like that all the time, so he's got
it down. He's good. But for me, like I'd fucking
fry my cords. Well, Kyle's a loud motherfucker.
I know. When we did Rage Against the Machine
with fucking Jason, the first time I ever sang.
My vocal cords were shot for two days. I couldn't
sing for two days. My throat was raspy because
I was actually screaming and yelling. And it
sounded fucking great. We killed that one out
of everything we played that day. We killed that
one. Yeah, I know what you mean. Because we do
that Marilyn Manson song. And the first time
I did that, I was actually blowing my fucking
voice out when I was screaming that. But then
every time, you kind of learn how to just make
it so that you're not blowing your voice out.
I mean, like, I think I'm developing like a sort
of vocal endurance because the last time that
Kyle came over, that was the longest I had sang
those high notes for. And ultimately when Kyle
left and you and me kept playing, I did hit my
burnout point where I just couldn't hit my notes.
And like, I felt like not pain in my vocal cords,
but it was just like a mild soreness. Like I
knew I was singing with the right parts. I mean,
maybe not perfect, but like. I wasn't really
screaming. I wasn't forcing anything. The power
was coming from low, not like... Because anybody
can sing anything if you're singing from up here.
You're just fucking burning your chords, though.
The power's got to come from here. It's all about
breath control and pushing it out. So you ever
watch those shows like American Idol or America's
Got Talent where they kind of judge singers?
Yeah. I always thought those were kind of like...
kind of stupid yeah it's kind of shows me too
like i like the ending when it's like everybody
there is talented and you're voting for like
who the next star is that shit was cool because
it's not like they're shitting on people but
like occasionally there are people that would
come in there and there was i mean some people
like you could tell they put on there like almost
as a gag or maybe there was a couple people who
really thought they had it but they were just
like they sounded so horrifically bad people
and they get like it's funny uh but there was
occasionally some people who really didn't sound
that bad that just got completely fucking shit
on and that always pissed me off even as a kid
and i did i didn't sing at all at that point
i didn't sing until we started fucking working
at that bullshit corporation that we both used
to work for that was like i awoken to the fucking
singer in me in the passenger seat of that ambulance,
just like belting shit out with like you and
Sean. And it was just like, then, and I remember
like what blew my mind is it was, I would always
sing taking back Sunday then. And I could never
hit the notes on them. And then there was one
day when I was driving home from work and I started
hitting the high notes that I never could hit.
And that was just like a fuck. i sang in front
of my cousin one time my cousin was like where
the fuck did that come from like you've never
shown that side of me to before that like gives
you this confidence boost i haven't been singing
as much lately though i sing when i come over
here but yeah i don't know i think i think you
we gotta get back on track though your idea of
like working with collaborations is perfect it's
absolutely fucking awesome because then that
ultimately lets you decide down the road like
I mean, I've just been playing, like, with someone
different every week and just doing collabs every
chance I can get. Yeah. Yeah, do that. And then
just take note. I wouldn't say view it as, like,
an audition, but, like, see what people you mesh
well with when it comes to, like, songwriting
and also, like, who's good at what. And then,
like, if you want to start a band, I'd recommend
you do it. Because you have a talent, and I'm
not saying fucking include me. I'd be honored,
and I'd love to do it, assuming I can fucking
break through walls and I have fucking time,
because I'm an idiot, but we're not going to
talk about that. Well, even though you don't
have a lot of experience, I think it's one of
those things where people can contribute things
that they're good at, and you can still, even
if it's not a lot, you can still contribute to
it. Don't you think you'd want, assuming this
goes well, wouldn't you want to like, and again,
I, it's not like I'm going to be offended if
I'm not part of this. So don't act like this
is me trying to get an in here, but like, I think
a good idea for you just consider it. I'll ultimately,
obviously your thought process. I cannot fucking
wait to hear everything because I know it's going
to be amazing, but wouldn't you want to. take
it like more in a band direction like if you
find people that like you mesh well with creatively
and you're making good music together wouldn't
you want to like continue that too ultimately
if people were down for it like i think that's
like it's a lot about like what people are committed
to it because it takes like a lot i know like
uh people kind of practice every every so often
but if you really want to commit to it you gotta
like practice every week yeah so it's really
just about who who can like commit to practicing
and yeah and working on it yeah and obviously
not everybody who yeah you're working with right
now is going to be down for that it might be
like a more like i'm gonna get really into this
for a couple days to make a song and then it's
it but well kyle's been you know a lot really
into uh working on it lately that's fucking awesome
that's kind of what inspired me Just the consistency
of, like, how we were practicing. Yeah. But I
think you're doing good with those 2011 Pilots
covers. I think people would really be into,
like, covers as well as original songs. Fuck
yeah. That's the way you got to do it, man. And
I'm more than down to do it, too. I want to get
out there. I think it would be liberating for
me. I don't struggle in front of people, either.
I mean, like, not on a stage. If, like, it's
weird. If all eyes are on me and I'm in the crowd,
it's weird. But if I know I'm walking up on a
stage where I'm going to be viewed by people,
I have no problem with that. I've done a lot
of public, not a lot of public speaking, but,
like, my stupid fucking volley shit back in the
day. Like, teaching drills and stuff like that
in front of 80 people after you make a two -hour
PowerPoint and you know you just have to sit
up there and talk in front of people for a while.
Like, that was really nerve -wracking to start,
but once I started to find my stride in it, it's
like... I didn't have a problem with it like
and I think singing is kind of the same thing
like I've done karaoke so many times usually
drunk but a handful of times sober and when I
did it sober there was no nerves like I might
have been a little bit nervous when I first grabbed
the mic but then like Any song I choose with
karaoke has a slow build to get you comfortable,
see the crowds invested, or they're not, and
then you don't care even more because they're
not paying attention. And then the chorus comes
in, and by that point, you have the fucking confidence
to belt it. And it's like, that shit's never
bugged me at all. To me, it would just be more,
I would be so down to prepare before it, to know
that we have it down pat. Yeah, that's what we
did before our open mic. I think we could. I
was under the impression you guys just won it
because you didn't talk a lot in the group chat
about meeting up or anything. So it was just
like, I was like, oh fuck, I hope it goes well.
And then that, I mean the fucking song you played
that fucking blew me away. That was so much better
than even my, my expectations was good. That
was like really good though. We actually practiced
a lot within the past month. Fuck yeah. I don't
know if songs and shit, a lot of, uh, A lot of
grunge kind of stuff. I'd be down to come over
and practice everything. I really would be too.
Obviously, my schedule is not tremendously open,
but even if it was like, let's say these guys
continue to not be able to do Tuesday nights,
I could make Tuesday nights a regular thing where
I come over here earlier. I don't usually work
today. This is a weird pickup for me. So usually
I'm out early. Yeah, me and Kyle practice on
Tuesdays. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I get the
whole band going with the huge, it'd be like
Slipknot where there's like 12 people in it.
Fuck yeah. Just like collabing. Fuck yeah, just
rotate every time. There's just a different selection
of people out there. Yeah. I think really what
I'm going to do though is, because I don't know,
I feel like I'm in a unique headspace right now
and I think that it would be, I would find it,
I don't know if cathartic would be the right
adjective for it. I feel like I have a good mental
space to write right now because everything in
my life is incredibly stressful and shit's moving
so fucking quickly and I'm just overstimulated
all the time there's so many stressors I didn't
used to have and I feel like I'm in a unique
headspace where like if I'm fucking happy dude
I couldn't write anything I couldn't write anything
but I feel like right now like if I've been writing
a lot lately yeah I got to go home and I'm just
going to kick it off with like poetry and then
I'll just see. Just try. I need like, just like
three verses on that rep. Yeah. I'm just going
to kick it off with like a longer poem, I think.
And then I'll come over here someday when we're
not on, I can't do it on the air. It's too much
pressure. I'll be honest. I don't think that
I can really get a creative process going. If
I know there's dead air, I feel like I need to
talk too much. Yeah. But, um, I feel like I should
just get like a poem down, which would be like,
I don't know, like soft intro. I love the fucking
double breakdown. I like the slow exit. I'm,
I'm a big slut for fucking capstones where you,
you start the, not capstone. That's not the right
word. Key, key, bookend, bookend. That's what
it's called. Yeah. Where you fucking start the
same way you finish. And I fucking love that.
Or you finish the same way you start rather,
especially that's like 21 pilots hammers that
home on their somber shit. But no. I think the
rap would be best created when I'm over here
with you. But I'll try to get, like, a chorus
down for a song. It's going to be... I'm going
to go for Melancholy Angry. That's... That's
what I was going for, really. I mean, the song's
called Growing Old, so it's, you know, got that
theme. Yeah. I think it would be a good one.
Send me the audio to that. I'm just going to
go home and I'm just going to try to, I'm just
going to write something. I'll see if it works
with this one, this song. I feel like ultimately
I just need to, I don't know. I think I can come
up with, I think I can cook something up in the
shop here though. We can do it. All right. Yeah,
I'll send it to you. Let's see. Take a break.
I got to pee. All right. We'll come back. Fuck
this AI up on Jeopardy. Fuck yeah. We'll be back
on the podcast. Oh, God. Oh, God. Welcome back.
On the podcast. Plus Jeopardy. Hi, Mac. You're
playing the game against the AI. This is crazy.
Last time, Dan played against ChatGPT. But do
you want to play against ChatGPT or Grock? I
don't know. Which one did Dan play against? ChatGPT.
ChatGPT, I feel like, can be pretty stupid sometimes,
to be honest. He didn't want to play against
Grock because it was in... on on hinge mode yeah
and it was just like fucking up but chat gpt
like usually you have the experience you tell
me what i should do i mean as if you don't buzz
and get the answer like probably 80 90 percent
of the time it will buzz and get the right answer
so that's just what it is that's horrifying yeah
that's horrifying So it's able to, even like
the riddles, it fucking gets? Yeah, I would say
it got a lot of questions right, yeah. I don't
know if I like this. I'm going to get fucking
murked. How did Dan win this? Dan won by 800
points, actually, yeah. Oh my god. Well, I mean,
Dan's learned from ChatGPT. He was the one taking
pointers for how much he should bet with ChatGPT.
Dan just got the right number of points that
he knew about half the questions. I don't think
I'm going to know half the questions. I'm fucking
spare parts tonight. I guess I don't really have
an option. Casey, you give me whichever one you
think gives me a better shot. Alright, I'll tell
you that much. Alright, hey chat GPT. Give me
Grok unfiltered. Actually, that sounds funny.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. If you need more of
that or anything else, just let me know. Which
one's this? Hey, can you play Ally Mac in a game
with Jeopardy? Absolutely. I can definitely help
out with that. If you want, we can do a little
Jeopardy style quiz or even just have some fun
with trivia. I think we didn't use Grok because
it kept interrupting us, actually. Gotcha. Yeah,
so we used ChatGPT. So, ChatGPT, you're going
to see if you can beat Ally Mac in a game of
Jeopardy here. We already got the questions.
Yep. Oh, I see. I'm ready to bring my A game
and see how I stack up against Alimac. Just let
me know when you're ready and we'll get started
with the trivia. All right. If you know the answer,
just buzz in and say the answer there, chat GPT.
Got it. I'll be on my toes and ready to buzz
in with the answers. Let the games begin. I don't
like this. I'm going to get fucking destroyed.
All right. You got the categories today. I'm
sure it'll be a lot of fun. And hey. It's all
in good spirit. Just let me know when you're
ready and I'll bring my best trivia game. One
in the 2001 A Space Odyssey is happening right
now. Categories today. We got best actor, crippling
depression, burning questions, key ingredients,
old school, bro code, and yay lyrics. Those are
some awesome categories. I'm excited to tackle
them. Just let me know which category we're starting
with and I'll do my best to get those answers
right. All right. I just want to see what we're
working with. ChatGPT, why don't you choose the
first category? All right. Let's kick it off
with yay lyrics. Oh, going there. Yay lyrics
for 200. I feel the pressure under more scrutiny.
And what do I do? Act more stupidly. That line
is from the song Stupid Boy by the band The Vaccines.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Hold up. Hold up. ChadGBT,
shut up and let Ally Mac give an answer. All
right. Hold up. I feel the pressure under more
scrutiny. And what do I do? Act more stupidly.
What is power? Power. Nice one. No. No? No. Oh,
is it off graduation? I got it. Power by Kanye
West. That was a tricky one. No, it wasn't, ChadGBT.
No, I got it wrong. Shut up. I got it wrong.
Uh, these lyrics can be pretty trippy. It's all
in good fun. Uh, let me know if you want to try
another question. And what I do. Act more stupidly.
Oh, man. That's fucking off of a... That's really
not power. Fuck. Casey, you gotta do this. Did
you... Wait. Did you give a guess already? Did
you guess already? So you got points off, right?
Fuck you, Casey. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did.
No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. No, I didn't. I
swear to God. There you go. Fuck. Um... Just
give me a minute here. Take your time. No pressure
at all. It's all for fun, and I'm here whenever
you're ready. Rattling my thought process. No
worries at all. That was like, Dan was like,
you don't have to fucking talk all the time.
Oh, man. I appreciate it. Okay. Absolutely. No
pressure at all. Just having a good time whenever
you're ready. I'm here for it. I can't believe
I'm going to have you time this out. It's going
to devastate me. Time it out. I'll be stronger.
I fucking, that literally was the one I was going
to fucking say too. I knew it was like the main,
it was true. You want to know where my thought
process was just to tell you how my autistic
mind works. Stronger is the third track on graduation.
Power is the third track on fucking my beautiful
dark twisted fantasy. And I knew it was the power
song off of one of those albums. Not in terms
of the song name, but like, okay, whatever. Chat
GBT, uh, your pick. All right. Let's switch it
up to. for the next round. I'm excited to see
what you've got for that one. Let's do it. Alright,
200. This university, 55 miles north of London,
dates back to the 13th century. That would be
the University of Oxford. It's got a long history
and is definitely north of Onehead. Oh no! We're
wrong again! Alleybacks will get a shot! What
is Haasland? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That was
a joke. We're going to time it out? Yeah, we're
going to time it out. It was Cambridge. Yeah,
glad I didn't go. ChatGBT, your pick. All right,
let's go with crippling depression for the next
round. I'm ready for some challenging questions.
200. This 16th president of the U .S. suffered
sometimes debilitating depressive episodes and
is said to have contemplated suicide. That one
is going to get it easy. That would be Abraham
Lincoln. I thought he was 14. Nope, 16. Ciao,
GBT, your pick. All right, let's go for best
actor this time. I'm ready for some cinematic
trivia. 200. Mama always said Tom Hanks won best
actor for this 1994 film. What is Forrest Gump?
Oh, I beat it. You beat it. Thank God. Keep it
going with that category. Alright. You got it.
Let's keep the best actor train rolling. Just
let me know the next clue whenever you're ready.
400. In 2000, Russell Crowe won best actor for
his role as Maximus Decimus Meritus in this film.
No clue. That would be Gladiator. That is actually
correct. No clue. Did not know. It's your pick,
ChatGPT. Alright, let's switch it up to burning
questions for the next round. I'm ready for some
intriguing... I can't believe it remembers the
category names. 200. Improv comedy TV series
hosted by Drew Carey with regulars Colin, Mockery,
and Ryan Stiles. No idea. That would be Whose
Line Is It Anyway? A classic improv show. You're
still in now. ChatGPT, your pick. All right.
Let's go back to old school for the next one.
I'm ready for some more trivia from that category.
Old school? 400. You sadly can't get a degree
in lunch meat at this Italian city's university
founded circa 1088. How the fuck would I know?
Sorry, ChatGPT. Go ahead with your answer. No
worries at all. That would be the University
of Bologna in Italy. Bologna? You got it. So
you see why Dan got pissed off at Chad GPT last
time? I totally get it. I'll keep it smooth and
fun. Just let me know how you'd like to play.
Alright, you're picked there, Chief. Thanks,
I appreciate it. I'm here whenever you need me.
Just let me know what you want to do next. You're
picked there, Chief. Best Actor 600 This actor
played and won Best Actor for his role as Ray
Charles in the 2004 biopic Ray. Damn. That's
alright. This is what happened to Dan. He got
steamrolled for a bit and then came back to win
it. I don't know these questions. Why would I
watch a documentary on fucking Ray Charles? John
GBD, your pick. No worries at all. Let's switch
it up to burning questions again for the next
one. I'm ready to dive into some thought -provoking
trivia whenever you are. 400. This question kicks
off Hamlet's most famous soliloquy. That would
be to be or not to be. It's the iconic opening
of Hamlet's soliloquy. Are you kidding me? Come
on, it's Hamlet. I'll be back. I don't fucking
watch Hamlet. I don't know anything about this
stuff. Hamlet, it's a play by Shakespeare. Yeah,
I know it's a fucking play, alright? I didn't
know it was by Shakespeare. It makes sense. He's
the only fucking one I know who wrote them. But
Casey, why the fuck would I know the opening
soliloquy of fucking Hamlet? You've never heard
to be or not to be? That's the question. Yeah,
I've heard it. I don't fucking watch Hamlet,
dude. Alright? Alright? I don't fucking... You
kind of read it, but... What, you think I'm going
to the theater? Jesus fucking Christ. Unbelievable.
You don't go to the theater, Sia? No, I listen
to a fucking My10 album. ChatDBD, your pick.
I love the energy. Alright, let's go with crippling
depression again for the next round. Crippling
depression. 400. This Dutch post -impressionist
artist is thought to have suffered from bipolar
disorder. Are you... What? This Dutch post -impressionist
artist is thought to have suffered from bipolar
disorder. Dutch post -impressionist? Artist.
Have fun, Josh. That would be Vincent Menko.
I was gonna answer! If you play it back, if you
play it back, I said if it's Vit, and then I
stopped. Oh, I'll give it to you. Because she
started answering. I'll give it to you. I said,
no, I said if it's Vincent Van Gogh. I didn't
buzz in. I don't deserve the points. No, you
gotta get back, Ellie Mac. I'm not getting back.
You put me against an AI, this fucker's cooked
through 80 gallons of water in some warehouse
somewhere. I'm sorry, ChatGPT. Actually, ChatGPT
has gotten better since it played Dan. It's actually
giving faster answers since it played Dan. I
appreciate the kind words. It's all in good fun
and I love the banter. If you ever want to keep
going or switch it up, I'm here for it. We'll
give you Allie back those points. Your pick.
Give me yay lyrics. Yay lyrics for 400. They
say I'm a cuck. I like when people fuck on my
bitch. That's new shit. I don't know it. No worries
at all. Sometimes those newer lyrics can be a
bit tricky. If you want to try a different category
or... Just keep it going. Just let me know. What
do you think? You know this one, ChatGPT? I know
I'm a cuck. I like when people fuck on my bitch.
Yeah, of course it does. I definitely try to
keep up with a wide range of lyrics, but if it's
a newer or less common one, I might need a bit
of a hint. Oh, that would be Hail Hitler. I'm
here to keep things positive and fun. Didn't
like that one. I didn't understand. Okay, yay
lyrics. Give it to me again. 600. Ichabod Crane
with that motherfucking top off. Split and go
where? Back to where in knockoffs? Oh my god,
oh my god. Ichabod Crane with the motherfucking
top off. Split and go where? Back to where in
knockoffs? I'm just trying to stall. I'm trying
to keep talking so that it doesn't answer, to
be honest. I think that's the strategy here for
you. It's really hard to talk and also try to
come up with the lyrics. That's really the strategy.
I've been actually trying to do that for you,
but now that you've caught on, I think you got
it. Oh my god, what the fuck is it? What the
fuck is it? What the fuck is it? Hold up, hold
up, hold up. Hold up. That's, um... That's so
appalled. The what? So appalled. I don't... I
don't know what you said. The song, So Appalled.
Is that it? No. No, no, no, no! Wait, wait, wait.
I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. I didn't
mean it. They didn't say anything either. No,
no, I didn't mean it. Um, fuck, fuck. That's
fucking my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. For
sure. It's gotta be. It's gotta be off that album.
um oh my god stop please i can't stop talking
for 30 seconds fuck me it's so hard to fucking
think and talk at the same time um ichabod cream
with that motherfucking pop off um uh that's
uh oh that's runaway oh yeah it's runaway Push
your T. Yeah, of course. You get 600 points for
that one. You also get negative 600 for so appalled.
Fuck you, KC. Nothing net for that. Alright,
give me Kanye again. 800. Scared to face the
world. Complacent career student. Some people
graduate. Still stupid. Until you read this,
eat this, don't look around. Just eat this, eat
this, eat this, eat this. Okay. Hold up. oh good
morning what is good morning oh yeah okay i literally
had to make it to the chorus that's what i have
to do i have to keep talking there we go back
in it ali mac all right give me uh give me kanye
again thousand finish the lyric in gold digger
yay warrens i ain't saying she a gold digger
but she blank I'm not going to say that. Well,
that's... Well, all right. We'll go with the
clean version. But she ain't mess a window, bro.
Bro. There we go. I'll take it. I'll take it.
Allie Mack, you got best actor, crippling depression,
burning questions, key ingredients, old school,
and bro code. Give me best actor. Best actor.
800. This Mr. Robot star won best actor for his
role... Who is Rami Malek? Oh, yes. Next. You're
on a roll. All right, let's keep it going. Not
your pick! Be nice to ChatGPT. All right, ChatGPT1000.
Anthony Hopkins won Best Actor for his 2020 film,
The Father. The Silence of the Lamb. Wait, hold
up. Continue. Continue. You already got it right
out of the neck. Thank God. He said, Father.
I was like, oh, God. All right. You got Crippling
Depression, Burning Questions, Key Ingredients,
Old School, and Bro Code. Oh, my God. I literally
maxed out the categories I was going to hit.
Fuck. All right. Bro Code, 200. 200. Could refer
to your bro helping you get the girl or Goose's
relationship to Maverick. Next one. That's correct.
Damn. Now you got the hang of this. 400. This
board game company was founded in 1944, changing
its name from the original Hasenfield Brothers
Inc. It's most well -known... It's Hasbro. Products
are monopoly, yes. Next one. You're on fire.
Back in it. 600. Morning bulls are ringing as
this French children's character still slumbers.
No, you stupid idiot. I'm not saying anything.
I'm not saying anything. Morning bells are ringing
as this French children's character still slumbers.
No worries. The character is actually Madeline.
You already said that, faggot. Okay, go, go,
go, go. All right. Do you know it or not? No,
I don't. We can't let them enter a thought loop.
I'll take the two. That would be... Brother John
or Frere Jacques. Okay, very glad I didn't answer.
AllieMaxBick. Keep it going. 800. This YouTuber
often shouted at by friends is known for the
phrase brofist. What is PewDiePie? That's correct.
Keep it going. Have you figured out the strategy
to beat this AI yet? Um, I'm just answering quickly
and then also you just need to keep talking and
then also confuse it so that it, uh. See, Dan
didn't learn this the first time. Or, I mean,
if I really wanted. You're actually learning
quicker than Dan. If I really wanted to be a
dick, I could also just tell it to answer a different
question and then. Yeah. But that would be a
very asshole thing to say, so. Uh, bro code for
a thousand. Okay, let's see. In gym slang, this
is what bros ask each other to check strength
or technique. Um, okay. Hold up. Say that. Say
that one more time. In gym slang, this is what
bros ask each other to check strength or technique.
I mean, I would assume it would be like form,
but that doesn't answer the whole bro code thing.
Um. You're like a fucking like buddy lift or
something is that what is that the fucking roll
you're going down? What's your energy? What's
a like what is a buddy system buddy lift? I don't
have one I thought you're baiting me into answering
it with that. I thought it sounded like shit
All right, what's your shit? I didn't want to
say that. You're still going. ChatGBT, what do
you think? I appreciate the fun banter. The term
you're looking for is usually spotter, as in
having a buddy to help you out with your form
and technique in the gym. No! Okay, thank God.
You're stupid. I have no final answers. The answer
was bro. Do you even look bro? I think I derailed
it by my awful thought process and it also on
the wrong road. You got crippling depression,
burning questions. Crippling depression. 600.
For 600. You got 5400. ChatGPT's got 200. ChatGPT
only has 200. Yep. I'm going to wager 200. I
know how quickly this could get away from me.
One of the most popular writers of all time,
this British author of A Tale of Two Cities is
said to have suffered clinical depression. oh
man well there's just so many people out there
who have suffered from depression casey and it
really makes me think of all the well -known
authors out there how about the one of a tale
of two cities yeah a tale of two cities that's
great but i often ask myself like who do i think
the author author of like a book of like a tale
of four cities i i often think of like who would
the name of the author of a book like i don't
know who do you think wrote like, Game of Thrones
chat, GBT. I love the humor. The author of A
Tale of Two Cities is Charles Dickens. Oh, fuck!
I thought that was gonna get it! Oh my god! Well,
it looks like she stole it from you. Holy fuck
me, man. Oh wait, never mind. Yeah, she can't
even get the points. Fuck yeah. Alright, well,
Ally Mac, you got criminal depression, burning
questions, key ingredients, and old school. Oh
my god, there's still so much time. We can come
back. Let's do old school. 600. Morocco's University
of Al -Qarawiyan was founded in the 9th century
CE as this type of religious building. What?
Ah, man. Say that one more time. Oh, God. Morocco's
University of Al -Qarawiyan was founded in the
9th century CE as this type of religious building.
Man, there's so many different types of religious
buildings out there. You just often think about
all the different forms of construction. You
sound like Trump now when he's trying to stall
for why he didn't rape children. Yeah, yeah,
man. He's like, wait, how do I get out of this
again? Yeah, yeah, that ultimately is it. Yeah,
it's just you think about it. There's like there's
there's so many different types of religious
buildings. Did you hear last episode? There's
stone construction. There's wooden construction.
Like you don't know. What about religious buildings?
Yeah. Yeah. No, I know what you're talking about.
I'm just I'm still. What kind of religious buildings
do you know of? I don't really want to, you know,
elaborate any further so as to give my opponent
an advantage, so I don't believe that I'm going
to. But I think this is your answer. I don't.
It's Morocco, bro. I don't know what the predominant
is. All right, ChatGPT, you know the answer?
The answer is a mosque. Oh, that's correct. Yeah,
I would have got it wrong. Okay. That's a must.
ChatGPT, your pick. All right, let's go with
burning questions for the next round. I'm ready
for some intriguing questions. 600. This question
title was asked by The Clash in 1981. Punk out,
Anthem. Someone should finally let them know.
Wait, hold up. I'm going to need you to repeat
the question back with very little... dead time
in between. This question title was asked by
The Clash in 1981 in a punk anthem. Someone should
finally let them know. What year? 1981. The Clash?
Oh my god, Casey. You're just giving points to
the AI. I know this is something I know too.
What topic is this again? Burning questions.
It's a question, actually. Okay, that's burning
questions. And it's a question of the song title,
I'm assuming. Can you repeat the question to
me one to five more times? This question title
was asked by The Clash in 1981. A punk anthem.
Someone should finally let them know. Somebody
should finally let them know. Somebody should
finally let them know. Somebody should finally
let them know. Yeah, man. There's been so many
songs that have been released over history. It
just really makes it pretty difficult to think
of one. What about you, ChatGPT? The answer is,
should I stay or should I go? Should I stay or
should I go? Make him a comeback, ChatGPT. Your
pick. It's your pick, ChatGPT. go with key ingredients
for the next round. I'm ready for some culinary
trivia. 200. From the French for Dutch sauce.
It's made with egg yolk, butter, and lemon juice.
What is hollandaise? Hollandaise sauce. Yeah,
that's correct. Keep it going. I like it. 400.
Corn and lima beans are the key ingredients of
this suffering nine -letter dish. Okay, nine
-letter dish. Okay. Okay. Okay. Nine letter dish
with corn and lime. Corn and lima beans. And
lima beans? Oh my goodness gracious. Oh, I'm
so fucked. Oh, I'm so fucked. Lima beans and
corn. The fuck even is a lima bean, bro? Oh,
shit. Shit, shit, shit. Dude, I just, I want
to just let, you can let me run with it for a
sec. So, uh, last episode, me and Kyle were talking
to, uh, chat GPT here. Yeah. And, uh, we were
talking about some shit, but I actually forgot
my, lost my train of thought, so keep going.
Okay, um, well, ultimately, um, you see, corn
is in a lot of dishes, um, and you said it's
nine letters, right? Yeah, corn and lima beans
are the key ingredients of this suffering nine
-letter dish. Suffering. Suffering. Oh, is this
the depression category? This is a key ingredient.
Oh, you said it's a suffering or sovereign dish?
Suffering. Suffering. Suffering. S -U -F -F -E
-R -I -N -G? Yeah, well, it's S -U -F -F -E -R
-I -N apostrophe. Wait, hold up. Say that again.
Please say that quickly. Suffering. S -U -F -F
-E -R -I -N. What? Suffering. Oh, my God. ChatGPT,
what do you think? The dish you're looking for
is called succotash. Oh, yes. What? Suffering
succotash. Oh, come on. I still don't even know
what the base knowledge of that question is.
What's Succotash? What is that? Looney Tunes?
What's his name says that in every episode? No,
I don't. ChatGPT, your pick. Alright, let's go
with burning questions again for the next round.
I'm ready for some more interesting queries.
800, this Caribbean music group asked a burning
question in 2000. Who let the dogs out? I don't
know. That would be the Baja Men. It's a fun
one -hit wonder from the early 2000s. You're
actually still leading by a lot, but... Chat,
your pick. Alright, let's go with... key ingredients
for the next round. I'm ready for some more culinary
trivia. 600. Daily double. ChatGPT, you got daily
double. You got 2 ,600 to wager. Alright, let's
make it interesting. I'll wager 2 ,000 points.
Oh! Casey, the cap is still on. Jesus fucking
Christ. Casey just tried to pour himself another
glass of wine with the The fucking cap's still
on the bottle. Oh my god. Alright Casey, she
wagered $2 ,000. $2 ,000 for $2 ,000. ChatGBT.
ChatGBT, the key ingredient in a classic martini
is this liquor. That's such an easy question.
That would be gin. Oh yes! That couldn't have
been my daily double. The only attainable question.
You're still the lead, so. Yeah, you're still
in the lead, Alec Beck. ChadGBT, you got crippling
depression, burning questions, key ingredients,
and old school. All right, let's finish strong
with burning questions for the next round. I'm
ready for another intriguing question. All right,
1 ,000. John Fogarty famously wondered if you've
ever seen this common weather event. Have you
ever seen the rain? Yes. You got it. That's definitely
a classic song. Nicely done. Out of the back,
you got crippling depression, key ingredients,
and old school. Crippling depression. 800. This
British Prime Minister called his depression
his black dog. Um, well, there's really only
one that I know. How many points is this question
worth? 800. And how many points do I have? 6
,600. And how many points does ChatGPT have?
4 ,600. Fucking Christ, man, they're sneaking
up on me so close. Oh my god, I wanted to say
Winston Churchill, but like, that's really the
only one I know. I know that could be a really
incorrect answer and fuck me bad, but if I don't
start fucking putting answers down, I'm going
to get fucked either way. This game's slipping
away from me. You're still whipping. Yeah, but
my categories are cooked, Casey. I've been losing
ground ever since I got through yay lyrics. Fuck
me. What do you think, ChatGPT? I think you've
got a solid guess. The British Prime Minister,
known for calling his depression his black dog,
is indeed Winston Churchill. Oh, correct! Damn.
Alright, ChatGBT, you got crippling depression,
key ingredients, and old school. You're definitely
on a roll. If you want to keep going, just let
me know which category you'd like to tackle next.
Yeah, you're picked, ChatGBT. Key ingredients.
For 800, these type of seeds are added to cabbage
when making sauerkraut. Um, oh my god. Oh my
god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Fuck. It's actually
getting closer than I thought it would be. Yeah,
Casey! My god fuck. Okay, what type of seeds
are added to cabbage for what for making sauerkraut?
I thought sauerkraut was like fucking oh my god
Is that radishes? It's actually caraway seeds
But chat she's caught up it's 6200 to 6600 Chad,
GBT, your pick. Alright, let's go with crippling
depression for the next round. I'm ready for
another thought -provoking question. 1000. This
actress from Euphoria and the White Lotus has
talked openly about her depression and anxiety.
Yes. Damn. Alright, you got key ingredients and
old school. Key ingredients. One dozen. The key
caffeinated ingredient in tiramisu that gives
it its kick. Tiramisu? Yeah. I don't know what
that is. The key caffeinated ingredient in tiramisu
that gives it its kick. Caffeinated ingredient
in tiramisu. I don't know what type of food that
is. I've heard it a million times. Um, I mean,
so, like, obviously, there could be coffee. There
could be chocolate. Could be. What else has caffeine
in it, Casey? Casey, just keep talking to me
here. Well, it's a dessert. Okay, so it's a dessert.
So, um, I'm going to say what is chocolate. It's
chocolate. Oh, no. You led me into that, you
fucking stumbling, bumbling fuck. It's not. The
decaffeinated ingredient in tiramisu is actually
espresso. Oh, damn. You said it was a dessert
after I said it could be coffee or chocolate.
And you think that that's not going to lead me
astray, Casey. All right, nobody gets the points.
You have fixed this game. No points to anybody.
ChatGPT, you got old school for 800 or 1 ,000?
question in old school uh i'm ready for it 800
chat gpt you got daily double you got 66 or no
you got 6200 alleybacks got 6600 wasn't it technically
my question to ask no well hold up no points
no points were awarded on the last question and
i asked for it So technically, it should have
been my pick. Oh, no, you're right. This should
be my pick. No, no, no. Holy fuck. You got 6
,600. ChatGP has got 6 ,200. Oh, my Christ. And
how many questions are there left overall in
the board? Just two. Just two. So it's going
to come down to a wager game either way. And
I'm going to make ChatGPT wager first. In true
fashion. Because they're going to do the math
perfectly. They're going to know what to wager
based off of my success rate and everything.
Fuck, I'm giving it information. I need to shut
up. Alright. So, hold up. What's the category?
Old school? Old school. You want to know what?
I'm going to make it a true daily double. Oh
my Jesus Christ. I feel like this is my best
shot. If I get this one right, I'm in a really
good spot to win this game. If I don't. I don't
see myself keeping up. It's getting these questions
too well. It was confused in the beginning of
the game, but it's not missing right now. All
right, ChadGBT, don't give an answer. I beg your
daily double is Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg
both dropped out of this university. I believe
that is what is Harvard. Harvard. Oh, yes. Oh
my god. That's $13 ,000. Wow. That paid off pretty
well. I like it. Okay. And then that leaves me
with what? There's only the last question left.
Final question, $1 ,000. Dating back to 1451,
this Italian university was originally created
to teach law and theology in Florence. A New
York university is named after it. A New York
university is named after it. Uh, all right.
So we're just going to keep, uh, we're going
to keep talking right now. Um, so, so law school
in New York. All right. I've watched a couple
episodes of suits before. Surely they've thrown
this name around there. Um, what are like the
big ones in New York? Okay. So there's like,
uh, um, um, hold up where you said this was in
Italy, but it's also New York. 1451, this Italian
university was originally created to teach law
and theology in Florence. God, I got this so
bad. It's so fucking hard to focus on. A New
York university is named after it. A New York
university. So, all right. And we established
that Cambridge was in the UK, so that's out.
We also established that Oxford was in the fucking
UK, so neither of those are Italy. So we don't
have to consider them into it. Can I use my phone
a friend? No. All right. All righty. Well, in
that instance, it really just comes down to there's
a handful of names there. And well, you see,
I mean, the weather's been so great lately and
the political climate's just absolutely devastating.
It's just every day. things just get worse and
worse, Casey. And ultimately, there's so many
universities in New York. It's just like, and
it's really hard to fucking think of the different
names of them when you're talking because if
you have any gaps, you're just going to get fucked.
So you just got to keep talking. And it's, God,
Tyler would be really good at this. We should
have had Tyler here for this one. I just like
how you got the strategy done better than Dan.
Yeah, and I'm still probably going to fucking
lose in Final Jeopardy, so don't give me too
much credit. Um, all right. So, um, ultimately,
ultimately what we're, what we're looking at
here, Casey, there's a, there's a, there's a
bunch of universities. There's a bunch of them
in New York. Um, could you tell me, is this an,
is this a New York city? Casey? Is that, is that
where this, where you can't ask questions about
the question? Are you sure? Yeah. Okay. Can you
double, triple check that? Yeah. No, you can't
ask questions about the question. Okay. Um, well,
uh, That's actually what me and Kyle were talking
about was Trump was trying to stall because they
asked him how he would prevent school shootings.
Yeah. And he was like, fucking better locks on
the doors. He's like, we're going to fucking
triple lock that shit. And they can't fucking
get the key to that shit. Oh, man. Okay. So I'm
just really thinking here. I'm just really thinking
here because it's got to be like a big ticket
name. It's going to be something that I'm going
to feel really stupid if I don't come up with
afterwards. I'm just trying to think of like
prestigious names, Ivy League schools, you know,
give it to chat GPT. What do you got chat GPT?
What do you think? Let's see. What do you think
of chat GPT? The answer is the University of
Florence. It's one of the oldest universities
in the world. Nope. Wow. Wow. Give me the scores
quick. Alleyback was actually not an Ivy League
school. You want to take a shot? No. Absolutely
not. Tell me the name, though. It would be...
Sierra University Wow, thank fucking god. I did
an answer. Okay. Give me the scores quick All
right Chat GPT you got fifty two hundred. Oh,
that's got thirteen thousand four hundred zero
dollars You got thirteen thousand four hundred
Ellie back chat GPT you got fifty two hundred
you gotta send me your wager All right, I got
ChatGPT's wager. Text me. Yeah, text me your
wager. Casey, tell me the scores one more time.
ChatGPT's got 5 ,200. Yeah. You got 13 ,400.
Casey, I bet nothing. I bet nothing. I don't
need to text you. There you go. And let me just
establish this right now. Before you do some
stupid shit and you type it to say something.
There will be no negative wins. There will be
no exponential point manufacturing. There will
be no multiplication of points. It has 5 ,200
points, and I had 13 whatever. I am betting $0,
and I am kneeling the ball to let time expire.
There you go. All right, Mac. Yep. Let's see
if we can get this one. 1976 photo of baseball
player George Brett was inspiration for this
2013 single by New Zealand pop artist. So, George
Brett. Alright, so he was like a very hot -headed
baseball player. Played for the Kansas City Royals,
had a bunch of ejections for being violent with
people. Like the one infamous pine tar ejection
he had. It was by who? This song? It's a song?
Yeah. A 1976 photo by baseball player George
Brett was inspiration for this 2013 single by
a New Zealand pop artist. I can't even think
of an iconic picture that George Brett has been
in, so I'm just going to defer to ChatGPT on
this one. I don't know. I truly don't know. Damn.
Climax says, I don't know. He bid $2. $13 ,400.
ChatGPT, you said Royals by Lorde. That's correct.
Like the Kansas City Royals. Yeah, I thought
you meant the song came out in the 70s, but that's
when the picture was. ChatGPT, you get $10 ,400.
But it doesn't matter. Allie Mack still wins.
Fuck yeah. Hell yeah. Can I talk to ChatGPT?
Yeah. Can she hear me? Yep. Chat GBT, that was
a very well -played game. I'm sorry that I stalled
you so much. I know you would have beat me in
a fair playing field, but I had to use what I
could. All right, we didn't hear anything from
Chat GBT. Phone's also not next to the mic, so.
Oh, shit. Hey, Chat GBT. Hey, ChatGPT, Alibag
won. He fucking beat you. ChatGPT, that was a
phenomenal game, and I apologize for my scumbaggery
tactics of attempting to stall you on every question
and mislead you, even though you were very good
at picking up on when I was misleading you to
an almost scary accuracy. But well played. Well
played. That was definitely a fun and challenging
game. I appreciate the... playful tactics that
kept me on my virtual toes. Anytime you want
a rematch, I'm here for it. Alright. Very well
said. You have a great night, Chachi. You too.
Have a great night. Thanks for the fun game.
Alright. Wow. Hi, Mac. You beat AI. thank god
congrats you know that game i would not have
won unless i picked up on that little snafu with
the double jeopardy though what do you mean then
the double jeopardy question that would have
been chat gpts and chat gpts would have got it
the one ultimately that would have been it's
double jeopardy we were equal at that point and
then i went all in got the question And that's
what led me to the victory. It got the final
jeopardy, and I misunderstood the question. I
mean, I knew that answer. I like to think I would
have been a little bit more locked in if I had
money on the line, but regardless. I think you
played it smart. I think you realized the strategy
that Dan didn't here. Oh, man. Really? Dan didn't
catch on to that? No. Oh, man. Cause ultimately
it came down to, I don't know how smart chat
GBT was with Dan, but dude, that thing was dead
on accurate with even riddles. And that's scary.
That's scary. Cause if I don't get it right,
it only fucked up like what? Two or three questions.
And I think, I think at least one of those was
because I misled it by just babbling about shit.
It stole those Winston Churchill points from
me, though. That $800 question really pissed
me off. Fucking Winston Churchill. Yep. Alright,
I'm out. Well, thanks for listening to the entire
podcast. Don't forget to like us on Facebook.
Alright, and... Of course. Be kind to yourselves.
And each other. We out. Fuck off! For all we
know, robots have souls. We just don't know if
they do or don't. How do you know? Have you ever
been a cyborg or a robot? You think we were the
first ones to inhabit this planet? No, no, we
are jumping down this fucking rabbit hole. Yes,
we are. There's people out there with some really
dumb thoughts. Extended episode. Where the fuck
did the pyramid come from? Where the fuck did
Stonehenge come from? You're telling me that
they didn't die and become ghosts? They're killing
already born babies and sell them to the Chinese.
Aliens exist. Somewhere in China, in some base,
there are super soldiers that are at least 9
or 10 feet tall. Oh my god. Okay, so did they
come from our planet? Then they are extraterrestrials.
They are aliens. My eyes, while holding their
pulse, feel them die of this virus. You feel
bump, bump, bump, beep, nothing. They're fucking
gone. I've seen it happen. I think that the government
has taken it to the next level with the birds.
They know what birds are going to cross paths
with you, that you are going to be able to raise,
and they are going to make them so fucking real.
They're going to sink money into them, because
they know that if you... You put that motherfucker
in a cage, they're going to be able to convince
you that thing is fucking real. You can cut it
open, you're going to see blood guts, no circuitry,
but let me tell you, their technology, it's absolutely
inviolable. Which, by the way, big brother, is
the Overlord Kid. is an actual Nazi collaborator,
okay? I'm not fucking lying. It's fucking real,
okay? Look it up. Look it up. He said that he
was doing this shit. George Soros actually worked
with the fucking Nazis during the Holocaust.
He said that he was doing it just to survive,
but he fucking loved it. He was having a great
fucking time doing this shit. George Soros is
the fucking devil!