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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, what's up?
It's episode 59, here with Dan and the Metaverse.
Oh yeah, I have a Kanye playlist.
What song?
Follow God.
Oh, is that new?
I don't know.
Four years ago?
Oh, that's not new.
That's pretty new.
Compared to like the old shit.
Yeah.
I was listening to some Kanye.
I've been listening to a lot of Kanye lately actually.
And he said something in one of his songs like, it's like, like we hate the Nazis or something.
I'm like, shut up, Kanye.
You don't hate the Nazis.
You love the Nazis.
Yeah.
Well, his rhetoric, dude, he's doubling down.
Yeah.
He's like, you think you would have lined up after they took all his money?
After like he said that thing against the Jews and then they literally took all of his money.
And then he just kept going like just as hard.
And then he said the Illuminati stole Kardashian.
The Illuminati.
He said the Illuminati took my wife.
He's got to be like he's going to have like some schizoaffective disorder or something.
He's bipolar.
Yeah.
But he says that was a misdiagnosis.
He's probably right.
It's probably way worse than that.
Yeah.
Like full blown schizophrenia.
Oh, yeah.
Dude.
You know, it's crazy, though, like people like the longer they're in the limelight, like
their chances of going crazy go up astronomically.
Oh, really?
Well, I bet.
I like I think it would be terrible to be a celebrity.
Like people just like always stalking you get no privacy.
I would go crazy.
I'd probably off myself the first day.
Right.
And it's like, dude, they're just people.
It's like I don't I don't even want to like meet a celebrity.
There's like no celebrities I want to meet.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it sucks.
It sucks.
It's like Joe.
Alex Jones.
That's yeah.
That's it.
Like the list is really short, dude.
Other than that, it's like and even then, like those are just people, dude.
There's like I wouldn't even want to picture with them.
It's like really.
Yeah, I don't want to picture with them.
But it sucks if you like meet a celebrity and they're like a day.
But it sucks if you like meet a celebrity and they're like a dick or something.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I don't know, dude.
Just like just the fact that they're celebrities.
Like that's that's got to be such a pain in the ass.
Yeah, because it's like they're like representing like basically all of us in America.
They have like the spotlight on them.
Dude, the best thing you can be is rich and not a celebrity.
The worst thing you can be is a celebrity and broke.
Oh, like kind of absolute worst combination or like Alex Jones now, except he's not going
to pay that trillion dollars.
Yeah.
You know, Alex Jones used to be normal.
He used to be a normal reporter.
And then he got wrapped up in some shit and he just went crazy.
I've seen videos of him from like the 90s.
He's he's he's more normal back then, but he's still a little crazy.
Now he was a straight edge like normal news reporter.
Now he was he was definitely crazy then.
But now he's just like off the deep end.
Yeah.
Like if we got famous, we just all go bat shit, especially Tyler.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you know, Tyler's like right on the edge anyway.
So it's like he's just around the edge of he's that guy.
That guy's just riding on the edge of sanity.
I mean, we all are, but you know.
Oh, I am.
Definitely.
I think most people are now nowadays.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Like if Tyler always seeing stuff and jumping.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're all on the edge.
We're all there with him.
Oh, Ellie Max coming.
So I saw I just saw like a news headline that said the main somebody in Maine,
like the head of the election, whatever, ruled that Trump was ineligible to be on the ballot for next year.
Following Colorado's decision to remove him from the ballot, although he did win some states like other states like I think Arizona, Michigan.
They ruled that he was going to be on the ballot.
Well, I think I think the people of the state are going to be quite upset about that.
They want to vote for Trump.
Yeah, their state is just telling them that they can't.
That's pretty that's pretty unconstitutional.
And can you still vote for them?
Can you write them in?
I know.
Because they did they just take his name off the ballot or they say like you can't vote for him.
I don't know.
But regardless, that seems pretty unconstitutional.
Well, being that they're trying to say that it's because he led an insurrection.
But at the same time, our Declaration of Independence states that we have a duty to lead an insurrection if we feel like the government isn't isn't providing for the people.
Right.
But it depends on your reasons like his reasons for doing it were completely wrong.
Yeah, but your reasons are dependent on other people's views.
Anybody could say, you know, it's like somebody could just be an opposing political party and say your reasons.
So it says it says in the Constitution that like we should lead a revolution if things get fucked.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Or is that just an idea of well, I think it says that in the in the Declaration of Independence Declaration of Independence.
Yeah.
But I see what you're saying, though.
But Trump, like he's getting charged with not charged, but they're doing this based on the grounds that he committed treason.
Yeah.
But one man's trees treason is another man's patriotism.
You know, that's the problem.
The founding fathers were committing the biggest, most egregious act of treason that in human history.
Maybe not human history, but you know, in our recent history.
So the declaration, it's just an issue of how much support you have.
You have like the support of most of the people.
You're going to they're going to be behind you and you can like institute your new form of government.
But when we have two political parties, that will never happen.
You'll always have 50 percent on one side and 50 percent on the other.
Yeah, I think you always have political parties because there's always going to be like those two different groups of people, like two or three different groups of people with like different opposing political views, no matter like what you do.
So it says in the Declaration of Independence, but when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably.
What's up?
Objects I can't what it fences a design to reduce them under absolute depotism.
It is their right.
It is their duty to overthrow or to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security.
That's from the Declaration of Independence.
Where is this?
What is this?
This is Ali.
Ali, you have to join the Facebook Messenger call.
I have to what?
You have to join the Facebook Messenger call.
I think he's on.
I'm not.
But he can hear me.
See, yeah, it's that I was muted.
Damn, how come Casey?
He's cutting it out on here.
Right.
And then I don't see you as an avatar at all.
Casey skeleton.
And then there's you.
You look like a sin's crystal thing.
Yeah, that's what you are.
What you have to do before we fuck the entire podcast is meet yourself on here and join the Facebook Messenger call.
Yeah, so mute yourself in the chat and then.
Oh, mute myself in the chat.
And then join the Facebook call.
What were you saying about the Declaration of Independence?
Yeah, it just says it says in the Declaration of Independence, it says when when the government's abusing its power, basically, they used other fancier words that we don't use anymore.
But it says it is their right. It is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security.
Right.
So they were like, yeah, if this happens again in the future, do you guys do something about it?
No.
Hold on a sec.
I have to are sneezing in VR chat.
By the way, we're in Don Juan's palace.
In the universe.
Has Ali Mac ever been here?
Yeah, he's been here.
Where is he?
Oh, he's just kind of an idiot.
What is this guy deaf?
In one year.
Are you joining the call or what?
He'll work it out.
Oh my God, he looks like Satan.
Yeah, I don't see anything.
He's got his neck twisted backwards like the fucking exorcism.
Damn.
So eventually this.
Sorry, what did you say?
No, no, what are you going to say?
So eventually this issue is going to go up to the Supreme Court with Trump, right?
Where they have to rule if he's going to be eligible federally on the ballot.
I think isn't there a Republican majority in the Supreme Court?
I think there is.
But to be honest with you, I it's like, how can you claim to have like justice?
Supreme Court judges are affiliated with political parties.
Yeah, yeah.
That should just be a thing you give up if you want to be a Supreme Court judge.
You have to give up all biases.
Every president though, the president gets to pick the justices.
So every president's going to pick someone that's affiliated with their beliefs or political party.
Right, which is ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah, that and I think I think that the president shouldn't have any political party.
No.
Well, George Washington didn't.
And he said like he said there should be no political parties because they get in the way of each other.
I agree.
But then try and try and get people to give up their political parties.
What is he doing?
All right, we're going to take a.
No, I can hear you.
I'm here.
Join the Facebook Messenger call.
Casey, that's how you're hearing me.
I'm in the Facebook Messenger call.
Oh, not much.
I'm just trying to make it so I can see fucking Dan because he looks like a clear Sims crystal.
Welcome Ali Max to the podcast.
So do you.
That's that's all right.
We can work with that as long as as long as your voice is here.
I fix it.
Did you unpack?
OK, so Dan looks like an alien.
Gotcha.
OK, what did you.
So how did you fix it?
So you you press like your Oculus button or whatever the fuck it is in your left hand.
And then you're going to point at me and you're going to use your right trigger and it's going to come up with like a profile thing.
It's going to say like deaf and left ear, whatever my fucking code is.
And then avatar display.
You need to change that shield to the eye that's on the left.
You need to like allow my avatar so you can see it.
All right.
So so I bring up the menu.
Yep.
And then you're going to point at me with your right hand and you're going to shoot me with your right.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm Ronald McDonald as an astronaut.
All right.
So.
And then what was the button you hit?
So it's like a.
So when you when you click me and Ronald McDonald with the astronaut, there's going to be user actions.
And then it's going to say avatar display.
You're going to have that shield selected.
You're gonna wanna click that eye that's to the left of that bubble in the avatar display.
And then it's gonna download my avatar for you so you can see what I'm supposed to look like.
Gotcha.
Alright.
Cool. I'll play with it.
Now I can see what Casey looks like, how he's like the some weird fuckin' anime chick.
Yeah boy.
He's a hot anime chick.
Okay. He looks just like he does in real life. That's what I say.
Okay. I need to do a little bit of research about the topic I wanted to talk about because it's been a while.
Since I've, since I read about it. I know the gist of it but I want to be able to get some facts along with it like where it occurred.
What's uh?
What are you talking about?
Um. I'll do my research first. I don't want to get you guys amped up about it before I can actually like talk about it intelligently.
Alright. Ali Mack researching live on the podcast.
No, no, no. I just want to see where it was. I can describe everything else. It was a cosmic ray that essentially rigged an election.
An election?
Yeah.
No it did. It did. Everybody.
Like the Battle Crest did?
Uh. Well. No.
No.
No. No. This happened a while ago. This was when we first swapped to like a digital system of voting essentially.
And uh. So have you ever heard of a cosmic ray?
They're emitted by the sun. It's like a form of radiation that it sends down and it can fuck with our electronics. It's super rare.
Are you talking about like a sunspot?
It's. Well kind of. But it emits them. It emits them ambiently too. Sunspots will drastically increase how many of them it sends.
And that's why when like there's a massive solar flare we have issues with like technology on earth.
But um. So essentially what happened in this election. Which I'm trying to look up where the fuck it occurred and when. That's really all I want to know.
But um. Essentially what it did was a cosmic ray hit this voting machine. Because if I can remember correctly. Again I'll get the numbers. I'll back this up. I'll back up what I'm saying here.
That sounds like something Donald Trump would make up. That a cosmic ray.
No. No. That's the crazy. There's multiple occurrences of this. Completely unrelated to elections that have happened throughout humanity. But um. Essentially what happened in this election was that it was a smaller town. This wasn't like a big election or anything.
And um. There was a significant margin for like this way underdog that won. And uh. They had more votes than there were people in the town. So everybody was like. How the fuck did this happen?
So they looked and it was because a fucking. This fricking particle hit the piece of this computer that essentially made it count one vote as like 30,000 or something.
And uh. It made this person get elected. But they were able to. After the. Because we had no fucking idea what any of that shit meant at that point.
But um. We looked into it a little bit more and figured out that that was the root of it. But like. The reason that I remembered this story was because there was an instance where somebody um. Got a world record in a video game speed run.
For uh. Super Mario 64. Because in this one level. They fucking. It was the same thing. It was a fucking cosmic ray. Hit this dude's Nintendo 64. And it fucked with what the height was supposed to be set at for Mario.
And it boosted him to the top of this level and it saved him like 45 seconds. Which is a colossal amount of time in a fucking speed run.
And. Yeah. Can I just say something? Yes. That sounds like absolute bullshit.
Dude. I know. Dude. That's what makes it fucking crazy dude. But you can look into it. You can fact check me on this shit. You really can. And you will find the info on it. Cosmic rays can do that shit. This radiation can fuck.
So it didn't just fry the unit. It just happened to change the code so that Mario doubled in size.
No. No. It doesn't work. It doesn't work that way. It's not as. It's not as fucking like. Oh. Like the sun is making Mario fucking lift this way up. It just. It fucks with the processor in a certain way where it just. It clips it just a bit. It changes some fucking numbers.
Because it's giving that part of the processor an electrical impulse. It's changing a one to a zero. All this shit. All this stuff comes down to binary code. You change one one to a zero or vice versa. You can completely fuck with something's code.
And that is exactly what these fucking cosmic rays do to electronics. This stuff still occurs. It can still happen. It's just incredibly rare. And with how sophisticated our computers have gotten. If your fucking computer gets blasted by cosmic rays it's not going to matter.
Because there's so, so many ones and zeros going on at all points. Your VR headset gets smacked with a cosmic ray at this point. As are. Nothing's going to fucking happen. It's not really going to change much. What's going on in your headset is so sophisticated.
But when you have a Nintendo 64. It's a much simpler process. So one one gets changed or one zero gets changed. That can fuck with something. So that's how that works. I'm being dead serious. You want to fact check me. I know it sounds like bullshit. It's fascinating to me too. But it's not. That shit happens.
I'm looking it up right now.
So every time I play Call of Duty the game crashes because a cosmic ray hits my Xbox. That's because Treyarch and Activision are awful. Awful. Fucking. A video here. How cosmic rays. That sounds like like satire or something.
So I'm trying to figure out where because there was a documented case of this. OK. Yeah. So this the cosmic ray thing this occurred in Belgium in a town called Cherbeek in 2003 where one of the candidates ended up with 4096 extra votes and nobody was like it happened fucking instantly. And the people were like how the fuck did this happen.
And they determined that it wasn't voter fraud or hacked machines because there was no evidence of them being tampered with or anybody committing voter fraud fraud. And it was looked into and it was determined to be a the fallout of an ionizing particle bouncing off of a vulnerable node in the machines register causing it to flip a bit and log the additional boats.
How do they figure that out after the fact. Yeah that's impossible to figure out. Because that's the catalyst. That's the type of an event where it's going to make us figure it the fuck out. They're not going to fuck around with an election. They're going to be trying to figure out and they're going to execute it.
Every possibility is to how this could happen. So they took the voting box to like a fucking chemistry lab particle physics lab tested it for fucking ionizing radiation is what you're telling me. No no. You don't have to hang up on that. We have the
for fucking iodizing radiation is what you're telling me?
No, no, you don't have to do that.
You could take any piece of technology
that runs with a processor and blast it with cosmic rays
and it wouldn't behave appropriately.
We just know that that's what happens
when we bring anything that has a processor
into that sort of environment.
Like it's just, that's just what cosmic rays do.
They're electrical impulses that can fuck
with the binary code of things.
They hit just the right spot.
And don't get, like I said,
this is an incredibly rare event,
but it's rare enough that it does happen from time to time.
It's not like it just never fucking happens.
It's probably happened to all of our computers
a handful of times.
And again, the results have been fucking nothing.
Even back then, the majority of the time
a cosmic ray hits a fucking computer,
odds are it's not gonna do a fucking damn thing.
But in occasional instances,
it has significant impacts.
Like it can affect a local election like that.
Like it's pretty nuts,
but they determined that that's really the only cause
because they had cameras and shit on this.
This was in 2003.
So like they knew that there wasn't voter fraud
or they knew that this machine wasn't hacked.
And all of a sudden it just says,
hey, 4,000 fucking people voted in one instant.
There's only really one explanation
that could happen there.
And it's that the thing got fucking blasted by a cosmic ray
in just the right spot.
Cause they looked in and they could see in the binary code
where that zero got flipped to a one.
And it makes it look like it's a 4,000.
Then there was no script or anything
that triggered that zero to turn to a one.
So the only possible explanation
is that a cosmic ray fucking hit the thing,
which just happens.
And let me fact check myself a little bit.
With the Mario 64 speed run,
I don't believe it resulted in a world record.
I think the kid blew it,
but it put them on world record pace for a little bit.
And there was like a massive debate of like,
if he landed that world record, like, do you accept that?
It gets like-
Sorry, can I just ask?
Yes.
Who the hell is out there trying to break world records
in Super Mario 64?
A lot of people.
You'd be surprised.
Damn.
It's actually pretty incredible if you watch it.
It's so optimized.
God, I wish I had fucking Tyler here for this.
Cause Tyler would back me up.
I'm sure he's autistic enough to have watched him.
I'm watching the video of it right now.
It's insane.
Dude, it's fucking insane.
These people are so incomprehensibly skilled at it.
And the sad thing is, well, it's not the sad thing, honestly.
I guess the sad thing is that we would never ever get
to this level of skill.
But for just about every single game,
not to the extent that like the super popular games
like Super Mario and I don't fucking know.
Like every massive fucking release like GTA and all those,
all those games are so fucking optimized that like
there's five or six people that are legitimately competing
for it.
Cause they're just like, they're cracked.
They devote their fucking lives to this shit.
But I could never, but I sped her on The Last of Us
on PS3 quite a bit.
That was actually my introduction to live stream,
live streaming.
It's called the big-
The Last of Us, the game?
The Last of Us?
Yeah, I never set records or anything.
I had a respectable time.
I can't even remember what it was.
I think it was like, I can't remember.
I was like 150th in the world or something,
which doesn't sound like incredible or anything.
But when you have thousands and thousands
of people submitting, it's something.
You're looking at a top 10 world record holder
in flight simulator right here.
I know, look at you.
Trust me, I know what it feels like to be the king.
Like you're kind of just like a celebrity at that point.
Like there's-
I mean, I'm not, but it was under Casey's name.
So-
If there's ever a plane going down,
you might be able to land.
Yeah, he's the fucking-
I would literally sit there and piss my dad.
No.
Is there a pilot on board?
Dad's like, I play flight sim.
Yeah.
It's me if there's anybody
with any sort of medical training on board.
I just crank my headphones up a little bit higher.
They'd be like, dude, sit the fuck down.
Wow, dude, you might get-
I thought you were something in the MDMO walk.
You might get a free first class ticket out of it.
Damn, Dan's dancing on the table.
Damn, speaking of, speaking of table dances,
we should go to that strip club.
Oh, banana.
Okay.
Banana strip club.
Yeah.
Fuck yeah, I was just there.
Okay, I thought you guys met in real life for a little bit.
I was gonna say-
No.
I was gonna say, I may-
Oh shit, I'm not tall enough to fucking do this.
Damn, though.
Oh shit, he opened up the portal.
Let's go.
Where's your case?
You open it.
You coming?
Dude, you're still a diamond.
They wouldn't let me change it to Ronald McDonald.
Are you sure?
Did you press the right button?
Yeah, it says you're offline.
What the fuck?
Try sending me a friend request, then.
Now you're just this little diamond running around.
If you send me a friend request, it might change it,
cause I'm a different dude now.
Yeah, I'm a little tiny guy.
I sent you a friend request.
Oh shit, well maybe I'm just a dick then.
Dan, I think the first time I ever met you in person
actually was a-
Oh my God, there's like a thousand retarded people here.
Cause that's like everywhere I go.
Damn, I'm liking this.
Your dummy is just filled with a bunch of real life NPCs.
What are you saying?
I can't-
The first time you met me.
It was in VR, I think.
Oh, at piss church?
I think so, I think it was piss church, yeah.
I think that was before I got my job
where I was able to have met you.
Holy shit, yeah, there's a lot of people in here.
Dude, there's gotta be some global setting
to let me see people's avatars,
cause this is ridiculous.
Everybody is just a fucking diamond.
What did they do to this fucking world?
This is chaos.
It is amazing.
I wish I could kind of stuff,
like make these kinds of graphics in VR chat.
It's pretty cool.
Casey, I don't know if this qualifies
as a strip club, buddy.
Why the fuck not?
Cause it's not a fucking strip club.
It just says everybody's avatar for me is incompatible.
That's what it says.
Yeah, it's not working for me either.
Oh, it's fucking ruined this game.
What a wash.
This has been a misadventure.
All right, let's take it to femboy hooters then.
They're gonna think Casey's one of the strippers.
What the fuck is Bananas Church?
This is strange.
This is freaking me out.
Let me drop a portal to Don Juan's palace
and see who follows us.
Yeah, let's do it.
Yes.
Oh God, this is so fucking autistic.
Where the fuck is Don Juan?
Don Juan.
Yo everybody, party at Don Juan's palace.
Party at Don Juan's palace.
Nobody comes.
A bunch of children.
That's why, that's why like, dude,
you have to get a certain amount of hours
to make a world in VR chat.
And I literally, I could not put the hours in.
There's just, it's like too many,
too much mayhem with children.
I'm like, I'm not gonna spend 50 hours playing VR chat
trying to get,
cause that's what I think it's like 40 or 50 hours you need.
Wait, so how did you, how did you make this world then?
Oh, so they finally came out with a thing
where you could just pay monthly
instead of putting in the hours.
Oh, okay.
So I pay like $10 a month.
That's what we're at, Don Juan's palace, $10 a month.
Dan, you could just, you could just like,
sauce me or your quest for like a week.
Actually, I can't say that cause I was gonna say
I do that at my job, but I have my last day there today.
Rip.
I mean, oops, I shouldn't have said it.
Actually, no, I guess we can say it now
that they're gonna be defunct.
Right, right.
I guess it doesn't really fucking matter anymore, but.
That's too bad, man.
That's a shame.
It didn't really hit me until like I left today.
And I was like, fuck man,
this was actually kind of like a bummer.
Yeah, it's definitely sad.
Cause it's just like, I don't know.
I feel like it was, I almost feel like it was avoidable.
Oh, it was completely avoidable.
But, you know.
And our boss gave us a, well, your ex-boss,
and I guess my soon to be ex-boss gave me like
one of those like 75th anniversary crystals to take home.
And I was like, this should be a fucking 100.
But it's never gonna be.
Did you get those things from the World Trade Center?
Oh yeah, dude, is there that piece
of the World Trade Center there?
It is, but I doubt that's going home with anybody.
Wow, I mean.
It's not like it's open season on everything.
VRChat is not responding.
I've been disconnected.
Great.
Well.
Wonderful, fantastic.
But dude, there's also that painting on the wall.
So I asked him about that.
And he said, he's gonna do what he can,
but he's not sure who that belongs to.
And if he's gonna be able to give it to you.
But he said, if he's able to give it to anybody,
you're first up for it.
Oh, dude, that's awesome.
You know who, that's a painting.
What is it?
It's a print of, what's his name?
L. Ron Hubbard.
Really?
Yeah, do you know who he is?
The Scientologist. No.
Yeah, the guy who started Scientology.
Really?
Yeah, and he was just like a prolific,
but terrible author.
And it's just this like,
it's this like painting of this like superhero looking guy.
What is Scientology all about?
I don't understand it.
Oh my God.
It's insane.
The story behind it's fucking wild.
It's just literally like this guy's schizophrenic ideas.
And so, is it some guy's schizophrenic ideas
kind of like the Bible?
Very similar, yes.
Yeah, so it just goes to show how many people
will follow something like that.
Even Thomas Rue.
Wait, I guess the main reason is that
the Bible kind of has time working in its favor,
where it's like,
Yeah, because 2,000 years from now,
everybody's gonna be a Scientologist.
Because they're gonna look at that shit like,
oh, that was crazy, I bet that happened.
Yeah, and it's just, it's kind of,
I don't know, it's kind of fucking crazy.
It was like all about like how we used to be fucking,
I can't even like describe it.
It's just such a fucking acid trip.
It really is.
But like in order to start a cult,
you really have to have like some out there ideas.
Kanye could start a cult.
You do, and you also do need to be charismatic.
Like you can't just be like some fucking retard
walking down the street.
You need to be able to convince people
that you have something to talk about.
Dude, I've got a friend that could 100% start a cult.
I think you brought this guy up a couple times
and he scares the shit out of me.
Because Dan, if you keep saying that,
something tells me that you're gonna fall
into this guy's cult.
Dude, no, he's, yeah, he's kind of like,
he kind of joked about it, like starting something before.
Like I asked him, I said,
you're not starting a cult, are you?
And then he said, no,
like that, like with a rising inflection,
which meant like, yes.
This guy's initials don't happen to be BB, do they?
No.
Okay.
Is that somebody that we both know?
Yeah, former employee of my current full-time job.
BB.
Yeah, he had a less than a,
he had a less than a,
a less than a,
Desirable outcome.
Yes, a less than desirable outcome
in his terms of employment.
And he left for a commercial agency, but got paid more.
He's good friends with your,
with our mutual buddy by the initials of JL.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's not him, but could you picture him doing it?
I think I could a little bit.
Yeah, no.
It might not necessarily be that he could start a cult.
It's just that he knows so much
about so many different conspiracy theories.
Honestly, we should try to have him on the podcast
at some point, because he knows how to,
he's a good storyteller too.
He'd be pretty good.
Yeah, dude, he is very charismatic.
Yeah.
He's funny.
He can say the most fucked up shit,
but it'd make you laugh anyways though.
Yeah, yeah, he's a good dude.
Me and him had a little bit of a falling out,
and then we kissed and made up, and then it's cool.
He's a really good dude.
Yeah.
I can see how he can have some points of contention
with him, to be honest.
But he's a character, that's for sure.
I can see how trouble could be stirred up
pretty easily with him, but he's a,
we shouldn't keep this going on for too long,
because nobody has any idea what the fuck
we're talking about, including KC.
Right.
But anyway, dude, so I wanted to talk about
how Elon Musk isn't real.
Okay, I want to hear about that.
Oh, good.
All right, so here's my thing.
All right, when somebody sets out to start a business,
like say a restaurant or something,
that's a lifelong endeavor.
Right, that could take, not lifelong,
but that could take up a decade of your life.
Trying to get a restaurant off the ground.
Would you agree?
Yep, I would.
And there's a lot of restaurant.
I've seen Kitchen Nightmares.
All right, so Elon Musk has started successfully,
or co-founded nine businesses, okay?
These weren't restaurants.
These were car companies.
These were internet companies.
These are rocket companies.
So how come?
Once you have a lot of money.
Yeah.
Okay, fair enough.
Say you have all the money in the world.
People still can't do that.
Okay?
Yeah, if you're smart and know how to,
how to start a business.
Okay.
He's smart, but.
So a lot of people can start businesses.
Not many people can make successful businesses.
All right, so the chances that this guy
starts all these businesses
and is successful at them,
the chances are almost, they're like less than zero.
It's like, it's like impossible.
It's like there's, there's a better chance
of us being visited by aliens than that's actually true.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
So.
Well, Dan, some might argue
that we have been visited by aliens.
Well, we have.
Well, it makes me wonder
if Elon Musk isn't actually a plant.
And he's this person that everybody,
you know, there's controversy surrounding him.
He's a plant.
People can't stop talking about him.
But is he actually, is he actually real?
Like he's a real person,
but is he actually who they say he is?
Or.
Are you saying, do you think he's been like set up
to like be the person?
I think he might just be an actor.
Like a figurehead kinda.
No, just an actor. A plant.
He kinda seems like an AI,
like a sentient AI almost.
Like the way he speaks.
That's more Zuck though.
I feel like Zuckerberg's more than AI.
No, has he ever watched an interview with him?
Like he kinda seems like a little on the spectrum.
Which kinda.
Oh, he's definitely on the spectrum.
Most of these super successful business leaders
are on the spectrum though.
Yeah.
But that makes him seem like an AI.
Well, in that case, we're all fucking AIs then
because we're all autistic as shit.
In GTA, when you do the mission where you blow up
the life invader CEO.
Yeah.
The cell phone.
Yeah. What's his name?
Who's the guy you call the computer nerd?
Jay.
Ah, Lester.
Lester, yeah. Lester's like,
it's time to take out a low level,
or a CEO with low level autism or something like that.
He's basically like saying that they all have autism.
I think you have to in a way to be that successful.
Yeah, but all right, yeah.
So look at the businesses that he started.
He started a payment company, right?
And then he started a car company.
And then he started a rocket company that's doing,
it's now doing business.
It's doing trips to the space station for NASA.
It's a contractor to NASA, right?
They're doing 90% of the trips
to the space station for NASA.
So, and they're taking the last astronauts to go to space.
They rode on a SpaceX rocket,
the last ones in the United States.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it was like three years ago.
So isn't it a little too convenient that this guy appears
that is just successful at everything he touches,
turns to gold.
Yeah.
Or are his businesses a way to sequester money?
Are his businesses a way to sequester funds
from the US government?
Oh, shit.
Right?
So if you look at Tesla,
where did Tesla get a majority of its money from?
I'm assuming the US government.
Well, maybe not a majority,
but there's a $7,500 credit on electric cars.
All right?
So- There's a what?
A $7,500 credit, federal credit on electric cars.
Okay.
Why is that?
That's what the government gives you
to buy an electric car.
They give you $7,500 and then the state,
New York state throws in, that's just one of the states,
but a lot of states throw in an extra like $1,500 or $2,000.
So you're getting almost $10,000 from the government.
So Elon Musk, he's worth 1% of the GDP
of the United States.
All that money came from the US government.
That came from the taxpayers.
All his money is taxpayer money.
Like not all of it, but a majority of his money,
a lot of it.
Okay, let's not say a majority,
a lot of it comes from the US government.
So now it's the same thing with SpaceX, right?
Yes.
He's getting paid by the US government
to launch these rockets into space.
And then on top of that, you have not Neuralink,
which that's gonna be funded by the government too.
That's gonna be paid for by people's Medicare, Medicaid,
right?
People that are paralyzed, but you have Starlink.
So he was just complaining.
The US government snubbed him on a billion dollar contract,
right?
For applying, what is it?
A high, to like different,
different places that can't access high speed internet.
Right? Yeah.
And he didn't get the billion dollar contract.
So he's complaining.
Jack, Jack.
All right, we got interrupted, but we're back.
You're a thin boy.
It shows your picture as a thin boy.
Yes, you're correct.
That would be what I selected.
Ali Mack's a thin boy in real life too.
For all you listeners that don't know Ali Mack in real life,
he is an actual thin boy.
I don't know if that's quite true.
It says-
You got a nose piercing, bro.
Yeah, and so does your fucking avatar.
And for the record, your avatar is more hair colors
than mine does.
Casey, you're wearing a thong.
You can be anything you want in VR chat, my guy.
Casey, I know.
And you want to be an anime chick over there.
Yeah, I wanna be a hot chick.
If I wanna be who I wanna be in avatar,
then I'm gonna be this, okay?
Okay, I'm gonna be this.
Do you have a problem with this, Casey?
Bro, there's gonna be fucking VR chat police
that go around and arrest people
for not using the right pronouns.
Yeah, they'll probably shoot me for being Jewsworld.
I think I got fucking Zanies in my mouth.
Oh, yeah.
So what are you saying about Elon Musk?
Oh, remind me about the Oculus 3.
We'll talk about that.
Okay, so if the government wanted everybody to have electric cars, right?
And they were forcing it on everybody.
Nobody would ever go for it, right?
Because it's being forced by the government.
Yeah.
All right?
And if the government wanted to spend billions of dollars
on designing new rockets,
they'd have to go and ask for the funding.
And they'd have to, you know,
if they wanted to build a satellite system
that would launch, you know, 20 satellites per launch,
it costs billions of dollars,
and they have to ask the taxpayers and ask for permission.
But if you have this anti-government guy come along,
this against the grain guy...
You just move it, man.
...that runs these companies, all right?
That's...
People look up to him because he's speaking out against the government, all right?
And they think he's edgy and cool, right?
This guy is selling these electric cars.
People go for it because it's not being forced on them by the government,
when in reality, he's just a shell for the government to force these things, right?
You never...
NASA can't get anything done because it's got its hands tied by legislation
and by... Not legislation, but they have to buy budgeting,
you know, budget restraints and stuff like that.
But if a private company comes along, they can do whatever they want.
You see?
Fair enough.
Right.
So that's my theory. I don't know. I'm working on it there.
There's something there.
Yeah, because like...
So why does the government pay people to buy electric cars?
Is it because of the environment and shit?
Yeah, yeah. So it's like an environmental tax credit.
Oh, you have the fucking tech deck down here, too. That shit's sick.
What's that?
I can't believe you got the fucking tech deck down here, too.
Dan, you actually went to an impressive amount of effort for this fucking...
Thank you for noticing, Ali Mac.
Thank you. Jesus.
Yeah, it's awesome.
It's about time.
I mean, Casey showed me this and I was fucking blown away the first time.
Like, I came down here and sat down and was like, holy fuck, this is incredible.
But...
Dude, I just noticed stuff I haven't noticed before, like the back of Tyler's laptop.
Did you make that? Is that what Tyler's laptop actually looks like?
Yeah, yeah.
Because I remember you asked for a bunch of stuff when you first started making this.
Like, we got like fucking Melania and me on the table.
Like, that's a book that's actually on the table.
Yeah. No, Tyler just sent me a picture of the back of his laptop and I just have a picture of it here.
What, you just like scan it as a PDF and then bring it into fucking VRChat or something?
Yeah, so this is actually, it's just a...
You just make a block and then make it really flat and then you can stick a picture on it.
Gotcha. So that's actually the back of his computer.
Like, you took a picture and just scanned it and turned it into that.
That, exactly.
That is the picture that he sent me.
Just stuck on a block to look like a laptop.
Crazy.
Yeah.
And then the book, you wouldn't believe how hard it was to make the books though.
Okay. And I'll explain why because...
I mean, you got a whole lot more dimensions to work with on that.
Well...
It's not just a flat image.
Right. So when you put, when you drag a picture onto a block, it puts it on all four sides.
Oh.
Right. So when you look at that book, right, you see the pages.
Yep.
Right. So each side of the book where you would see pages, it's actually a picture of pages.
Damn.
It's actually a separate...
It's a separate block.
Like, each side of that.
So I could...
You know, it's hard to explain but I could move each one of those around.
And then behind it you would see that there's actually a picture of the front cover of the book underneath the pages.
It's hard to explain but...
Damn.
That's just...
That's just that wrong fucking pipe. I'm over here dying.
Maybe you noticed the...
Okay.
Do you notice what's in front of you?
What?
In front of me?
Yeah.
The ghost peppers?
The ghost peppers all over the table.
I do. I do see them on screen.
I was trying to pick them up earlier but I can't.
Yeah, certain things you can pick up. Like, you can pick up the tech deck.
Oh, I've been doing kickflips this whole fucking pod, bro.
Oh, have you?
Bro, are they gonna add smell and taste eventually to VRChat so you can actually eat stuff in VR?
Bro, that's gonna be with Narrowlink.
Yes.
Because it's just gonna trigger parts of your brain.
Like, the part of your brain that smells like popcorn.
And all of a sudden you're gonna be in a movie theater in VRChat and you're gonna smell popcorn.
Right, so nobody's gonna have to go to work anymore. We can just do it in VR.
I don't think I'm ever gonna use it.
That may be the end of porn, though.
Oh. I mean, there's already VR porn.
No, but wouldn't they bring in the smell-o-vision?
Yeah.
I think it's over at that point.
Oh, lord.
So I don't think I have any interest in using that because I think that can really fuck up real life for you.
I mean, we're already to a certain extent, we're so spoiled as human beings with just constant stimulation,
whatever the fuck we want at all times with our phones.
Exactly.
That like, as soon as you give us that platform to essentially just make us literally be able to live whatever the fuck we want,
I think a whole lot of shit's gonna happen back in real life that's gonna be real fucked up real quick
because people just aren't gonna give a fuck anymore.
Well, it'll be almost like a drug, right?
Where like, it's like a major dopamine release every time that you use it.
An argument could already be made that that's how it is.
Like, I'll be honest, I got a buddy who, he's still a good friend,
but whatever I see him, it's like he never was into drugs or alcohol or anything.
And then like he met a ton of friends, ironically enough, in VR chat.
And like those are his real friends now.
And whenever he hangs out with us in real life, he fucking gets plastered, like beyond plastered,
like way more than even fucking I used to.
And Casey, that's saying something because I know you've seen me when I've been down bad.
But like every time I see this kid, he does that because it's just like, oh, well, like it just doesn't matter.
Like he'd be embarrassed if he did something like that in front of his VR friends,
but he does it in front of his real life friends.
It's like not a big deal.
It goes like they're less important.
It's crazy. Yeah.
Yeah.
It says you left our insides.
Yeah. My head said just shut off.
It said that you left for me too.
Oh, is still there.
Dan's still here.
I think my headset died.
Can you hear Dan?
Yeah.
I think my head said died.
All right.
Try and put it back up.
What about this guy? Who is this guy?
He's.
Fuck.
Hold up. Before I go too much more in depth, I got to make sure he doesn't listen to this because I don't want to talk too much shit.
This is this can get back then.
This might not be something I want.
Follow me. I don't think he does.
No, I think we should change. I think we should change the topic.
I don't want to shit on this guy too hard.
Is it somebody I would know?
No, it's not somebody any of you would know, but it's somebody who I could see potentially be listening to the podcast.
And if he doesn't, there's definitely people that would relay this.
They'd know who I was talking about if I said what I was going to.
I can't. I can't. It's too much of a risk.
All right. We'll change this up.
It would be so I got to plug my headset in.
Do you guys want me to pause it and take a break or no?
Yeah, why not?
All right.
We'll be back on until the podcast.
Yeah.
We're.
Show me the way because the devil tried to break me down.
Welcome back to Untitled Podcast.
Welcome back.
Episode 59.
It's five, nine, ten more and it's going to be an interesting one.
We're back. We're not in VR anymore.
We took a quick break of a week.
But you know, we're going to have a pretty strong, long episode.
Can we call this 59?
If it's a continuation of 58.
It is. No, no, no. It's a continuation of 59.
Oh, OK.
Welcome back to Episode 59.
Welcome back.
I'm here with Ali Mac.
We're a little bit short staffed this week.
We tried to mandate Dan.
And we've got a special guest for you today.
Hello, Alexa.
Alexa. Hello.
Alexa needs a microphone.
Alexa, what the fuck did you say?
Alexa's trying to get us canceled for copyright immediately.
So Casey, what is what do we have Alexa here for?
I figured, you know, I was listening to the first episode.
We had Alexa on as a guest.
I figured we bring her back, ask her some questions about the US government
and her work for the CIA.
That's pretty nuts.
You know, the other thing that we could use that for, I don't know if Tyler would be a fan for this,
but that could be used as an in-house fact checker.
You're right. Alexa, do you believe in 9-11 conspiracies?
Oh, Alexa, do you believe in 9-11 conspiracies?
It doesn't want to answer. She doesn't want to answer me.
She knows she's on mic.
She can't say anything on the record.
She literally lit up and then was just silent.
She's got some shit that could really fucking, this could be a big breakthrough for the.
Alexa, do you work for Mark Zuckerberg?
Mark Zuckerberg is a chief executive officer.
Yeah, play dumb, you stupid bitch.
I know your fucking game.
Yeah, she works for fucking Jeff Bezos.
Yeah, she fucking hates suck.
That's her man. He's listening right now.
How we doing, Jeff?
So, Ali-Mac, tell us about the Large Hadron Collider.
Wow, you're going to fucking kick me right into the Hadron Collider.
Yeah, I want to hear about it.
I want to know more about the Hadron Collider because it looks like they're colliding atoms to try to make these quarks.
Yes, so they're colliding them at about, I can't remember exactly how many nines,
but I know it's 99.999 and there's a couple more nines.
I don't know exactly how many, but they're essentially going that speed, that percent of the speed of light.
It's ridiculously close to the speed of light.
It's just, there's a lot of cool things that are about it because it's just like, one,
that's the fastest speed we've been able to replicate other than light on our planet.
The thing crosses in between France and, what's the other fucking country?
Switzerland.
Switzerland, yes, it crosses that border like four different times, I think, if I'm correct.
The thing's absolutely colossal.
The sensors that read what happens within the Large Hadron Collider are colossal in and of themselves.
They require this massive excavation underneath the Earth.
The cooling apparatuses that they use for around the tubes that they fucking,
the lumen that they shoot the fucking protons through at these ridiculous fucking speeds,
I think it's like liquid helium or something they use for it,
but they get like 99.99999% of the way to absolute zero.
So we're creating the fastest speeds of anything and the lowest temperatures
since what we think was the Big Bang, like just here.
We're playing it willy-nilly and there's a whole bunch of like,
I can't back this up with like facts, like Alexa might fucking fight me on this,
but I know there was like some protest and when this first initially started being constructed,
which was a fucking couple decades ago, like a while,
there was everybody that was really scared about it and like there was a bunch of religious people
that did not want it to be built.
Why?
Just because.
Because of science?
I think it's because they're worried that it can prove the existence of the Big Bang.
That's one of the things that they're trying to do is create these microscopic black holes
that can just kind of fill in a lot of the blanks that we just don't.
Couldn't they create a black hole that just sucks in the entire world?
I mean, so everything they're working on with the Large Hadron Collider,
there's a reason why we fucking made this.
It's not so we can do a bunch of tests that we know the answers to,
but at the same time we have theories for what they're going to find.
And it's like essentially with these massive microscopic black holes,
they're not going to exist for a long period of time.
You have these four sensors that are within them that each of these sensors alone
is like several times the size of this house.
They're colossal.
And what these sensors do is when these protons collide and create this fucking impact,
they believe that because of these sensors, so these sensors is kind of fucking insane.
They can track where every individual, correct me if I'm wrong,
this might be something I have to look into.
It's either atoms or molecules.
It can track every path that every single one of them takes in that instance.
It would have to be atoms because that's what they're colliding at.
Yeah, so it might even go, it could be, I don't fucking know,
it might not even just be the, yeah, it's got to be atoms.
But it's just fucking absolutely insane to me.
So it could be like photons, radiation, quarks?
Yeah, well a lot of what they're trying to do is figure out what the,
because we only know so much about quarks.
We know that they're the smallest thing that we've seen.
And we don't think that things get more basic than quarks,
but at the same time we can't exactly put a quark under a microscope
and figure out its properties.
We still don't really completely understand quarks.
That's, so the one thing I did want to talk about,
and this was separate from that book that I was fucking reading,
is string theory, which are you familiar with string theory?
I am familiar with string theory.
I'm not a string theorist.
You don't believe in it?
But is that like, oh yeah, I was going to say like,
what's the big deal with the Higgs boson?
That's part of string theory, isn't it?
Well, the Higgs boson, that's actually something,
and I know I have a very, very rudimentary understanding of string theory.
Me too.
I've watched like two YouTube videos on it,
and I intended to do more research before this episode,
and I became a philosopher.
I've watched YouTube videos, that's like all I know, but...
Yeah.
I mean, essentially what it is,
and the thing that really stands out to me is that
if string theory is the way it is,
essentially everything would end up being made out of these
one-dimensional vectors and lines and strings,
which is kind of fucking wild,
because that means that we're truly living in the first dimension
with a third-dimensional...
Oh, damn it. I just realized we lost Tyler.
Tyler, keep listening, it gets better.
It gets better.
I'm worried about what that means.
But, now, it's pretty fucking crazy,
because that would mean that we're living in the first dimension
with essentially like this very complex third-dimensional,
essentially illusion,
which that kind of fucking fucks with my head a little bit.
Does that mean the smallest building blocks of anything that we know of,
the quarks, are just made of strings?
Negative strings, yeah.
And then what does that mean everything else is made up of?
What are the strings made of?
Exactly.
I think once you get down to that level,
it makes you question the existence,
like the fabric of everything.
Well, that's the thing,
is that that's what I was going on my fucking manic rant about
in the group chat the other day,
is that like you really start...
It's incredibly interesting,
but it's really easy to get too far into your own head
the more you look at the biggest building blocks
of what we know of the universe and the smallest ones,
because that's when there's a lot of unanswered questions
that really fuck with your head.
It's just like...
Like, if you look at the universe,
there's insane possibilities open up of like,
what the fuck?
Is the universe infinite? Is it finite?
Is it infinite time? Is it finite time?
What rules do we have to play by depending on those?
And we've had billions of people that have tried to explain this with God, right?
But those same people can't answer the question,
where did God come from?
No.
But at the same time though, we don't really...
Like, everything we have,
the Big Bang is a theory.
It's a theory. It's one we think is true.
We think we know...
We think we pretty much got it
with a couple of the large concepts of the Big Bang,
but when it comes to what happened before it,
like if this is a repeating thing,
or if there just simply was nothing before the Big Bang,
and that's just how it was beforehand,
that's where shit gets a little bit dicey,
because we don't even know.
So like, that's where that argument for God comes in.
What I truly believe for God is that God is completely fucking hands off
from this whole ordeal,
but God made the Big Bang happen.
If there's a higher being, I believe that they did that,
but I think we read a little bit too far into it.
Like, he's not controlling every aspect of life.
Yeah. I mean, he might be.
Like, don't get me wrong, he might have known what he was doing
when he set the Big Bang off,
and he might have had this all-knowing intelligence of everything that was going to happen.
But why does there have to be like an intelligent being?
Why can't there just be...
There does?
But that's an unsatisfying answer for most people.
But even if you believe in afterlife,
you can still have an afterlife
and go to heaven and shit, and not have a God.
Yeah.
Right? Why does there have to be someone who
makes this and creates it and runs it
and influences all this?
I don't believe there is.
But I think people, like, from the beginning of time,
like the cavemen in ancient societies
made up these gods to try to explain things
that they didn't have the answers to.
Like, why the fucking sun was moving in the sky, right?
Yeah.
And so now they're kind of doing the same thing with questions
we don't have the answers to yet.
Like the stuff that you're saying.
I think it's just...
Then you see how people react with this,
because there's been a couple people...
For example, my cousin this last week.
I've been telling him I wanted to talk to him about some of this stuff
because he loves talking about shit like this when we're stoned.
But I've never really gotten into this super deep stuff.
Like, I've talked to him about the galaxies and everything.
And I got him hooked with the easy to understand...
The easy to digest stuff, I guess.
Like, hey, the universe is fucking colossal.
We don't know a lot about it.
But once you start getting into the, hey, meaning of life stuff,
you start to see there is a very sharp divide of people
that either get interested in it because they want to understand,
or people that run from it because it gets scary.
And I think it's...
I'm not saying that this is the case for every religion,
because there's a lot of religions that are very good,
where it's just a way of thinking.
It's not necessarily like, hey, we know everything.
Or like, hey, there's a higher power in all this stuff,
and I'm trying to please him so I can get into the afterlife.
It's more just like, hey, don't be a piece of shit kind of thing.
Like, those are good religions.
I don't want to list them off and start a fucking religion war here.
But I think that there's people that run to religion for comfort,
because it's like, oh, yeah, I get an afterlife and everything.
That's why religion was created.
I mean, I would argue that the purpose of religion,
and Tyler's not going to like this,
but the purpose of a lot of religions is money.
I think that religion is a business, like anything else.
Fucking Joelstein, by the way.
You haven't showed up for the fight, Joelstein.
We're still fucking waiting.
Anytime you want to fucking get punched in the face,
just come to Untitled Podcast.
We sent you fucking Casey's address last week.
Like, where the fuck are you?
I fucking tagged him on Twitter.
I was like, Joel.
Back when I first made the Twitter account,
I was like, fucking come fight us, Joelstein.
And he never fucking answered it.
Just like I knew you wouldn't, you pussy.
You fucking pussy.
Casey, do you mind if I get that one?
But yeah, man.
It's a crazy world we live in where there's so many.
The further I've jumped, because I really have,
the past couple weeks, gone really down this rabbit hole
on both ends, and it's just,
there's so much information out there,
and it's so hard to digest it all.
Like, I feel like one week I know a lot about one subject,
and then the next week it's gone.
Like, a week ago I would have been able to talk
about the Large Hadron Collider, so much more.
You like a goldfish?
It's not necessarily a goldfish,
it's just that there's so much shit that's either conflicting,
but has evidence to back it up.
It's just like, my attention gets pulled different places.
It's like attention deficit disorder at its finest.
It's like I just record all this stuff in RAM,
and then I erase it when I find a new subject,
and then like every time I find someone really crazy,
I commit it to memory.
But it's, when all of it becomes really crazy,
there's only so much room for it.
We were talking about Avogadro and his number this week,
and all that shit, and Tyler's like,
oh, what do fucking chemists do?
Like, why do we need fucking chemists?
Because chemists don't fucking use fucking organic chem
to save somebody.
I'm like, Tyler, organic chem makes every drug that we have.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, it's not like, I mean, it's different,
but it is saving lives at the end of the day.
You're not just fucking...
Yeah.
Like, they're creating those medica...
Sure, they're not in the back of an ambulance,
they're in a fucking ER in a hospital,
but they're still going towards the greater good.
I saw your argument there.
I think Tyler just didn't want to talk about...
The pharmaceutical industry is fucked,
because they're all greedy motherfuckers, but...
It's fucked here, at least.
It's fucked in America,
but some places have it a little bit better.
I didn't know that fucking Vivek Ramaswamy
was a pharmaceutical owner.
Vivek Ramaswamy?
Do you mind jogging the memory?
That sounds so fucking...
He's running for president,
and the Republican.
I've been reading books.
You didn't watch any of the...
We talked about this.
I love watching the movies, too.
We literally talked about this.
You were here.
I know.
Ramaswamy, he's that fucking Indian guy.
Well, I could have gathered that.
But...
Yeah, he just runs his mouth a lot.
I mean, dude, I hate to say it,
but I think Trump's going to win.
I mean, I don't really hate to say it.
I mean, it's the shiniest of two turds.
I just hope it's not Biden again,
if I got to give it...
Because I mean, dude, I don't like Trump.
I don't.
And I probably don't like any of the other
Republican candidates either,
because both parties have such extremes.
They're both at such extremes.
It's not like before, where it was like
bipartisan shit actually happened.
It's just...
And I don't pay attention to it anymore,
because it gets me angry.
It's why I dropped out of political science.
But I've already been on that rant before.
Yeah, I have phases where I'm more into it.
Like I'm kind of very into it right now.
But so 2024, we got fucking election year.
What was I going to say?
And so we're going to have a fucking
election special this year, right?
Yes.
I'm telling you a podcast.
Yes.
Lies.
I will do some research as to who I'm going to...
Well, who I like and who I don't like up to that point.
At that point, obviously, it's going to be
one guy versus the other for president.
But...
In the news this week,
Biden was getting impeachment inquiry.
They had that passed.
So he's going to be...
They're going to vote whether to impeach him
in the House probably the next couple of weeks.
That's...
I mean, I hate...
I just don't see it going anywhere.
It's not because they have the majority in the Senate.
Yeah.
But he might be impeached though,
because the Republicans got the majority in the House.
Yeah.
But it's just like at the end of the day,
even if he is impeached,
I just don't see any of this shit sticking.
And I was like...
I looked it up because I was like,
what the fuck did Biden do?
It's some shit about his personal interests
in his son's or his family's business affairs
in pharmaceutical companies.
This is Trump or Biden?
Biden.
Okay.
Foreign pharmaceutical companies that his family
had a personal interest in.
He made money off of...
While he was in office or prior?
Well, like for the past 20 years or something.
Oh, shit.
That ain't a good look.
Yeah.
That ain't a good look, Biden.
But I thought they were impeaching
about something else though.
So Biden is being impeached or Trump?
Biden.
Okay, I was going to say Trump is not in office.
Trump was already impeached.
I know.
They were...
Yeah, that whole thing happened.
Who's the one that they were talking about Ukraine
because...
Oh, that was Trump, right?
I don't fucking know.
I got to do more.
I wish this podcast existed in fucking 2020.
No, not 2020.
Fucking like 2017, 2018,
because that's when I was all over this stuff.
I was such a well-spoken political boy.
Because they originally wanted to impeach Biden.
I think it was Biden or Trump
for something to do with Ukraine.
I think it was Trump.
He had some bad ideas.
He had some bad dealings with Ukraine.
But Trump actually was finally impeached
for the insurrection thing.
And now Biden, are we just going to impeach everybody
that we don't like now?
Is that the new normal?
I think that is the new normal.
Because you see this division where it's just like...
And don't get me wrong.
I don't know why I keep saying that.
I'm going to fucking smack myself every time I say it.
I've said it eight times since we started.
But fucking...
Trump started it.
He started this just completely unorthodox...
He started this round of it.
There's been presidents in the past
that have just been ridiculously outspoken about everything.
But Trump started it.
In his fucking elections,
I mean in his primaries the first time around,
he was just constantly saying shit in debates.
And even with Hillary,
that was just completely incorrect.
And fact-checkers would say it was incorrect.
And that was in the news and stuff.
But people didn't care.
And it started this like,
all right, well, let's just...
Even if the charges won't stick, it's bad press for this guy
if we say he's going to...
If we're going to impeach him.
And now once you see both sides doing it,
it started with fucking Trump.
Now we got it going on with Biden.
And it's just like, why?
Like it's just...
We look like a joke to the rest of the world
when this shit happens.
Like, there's just such division.
It's just ridiculous.
Like I remember...
Because I remember...
And I'll talk about a little bit about the insurrection.
Because the insurrection is like...
When that happened, I was up in arms.
And could Trump have been a little bit better about it?
Me and Tyler don't see eye to eye.
I know you don't.
But it's like...
And I'm sort of...
I'm in the middle with it.
Because Trump said some shit he probably shouldn't have.
But to say he started the insurrection,
I think is a little bit over the top.
But at the same time,
that shit would not have happened if he wasn't in office.
Like you could have fucking Chris Christie in there.
We're not going to have a fucking insurrection.
That's not going to happen.
But like...
You just look at the past presidents.
It's like they were fucking leaders.
Chris Christie, by the way,
will never be president of anything.
I know.
He will never be...
He couldn't be president of this chair.
He'll keep fucking trying though.
It's funny.
He tries every year.
Every four years.
I was big on Bernie.
I was big on Bernie in the 2016 election.
So the thing is,
if something happens where all these states
or even the Supreme Court votes that Trump can't be on the ballot,
like it's happening now,
just happened in Colorado and Maine...
That's such bullshit though.
I can't...
Well, not really.
No, but you're fucking...
You have the right to vote for who the fuck you want to vote for.
Well, no other president who's been impeached has run again before.
So we've never had this before.
Well, yeah.
But at the end of the day, I think we kind of fucking...
I don't...
I think that...
But if this is the new normal,
where we're just going to keep fucking impeaching one another,
which I believe it will,
I think that's the new normal.
Because if you spend enough time looking at somebody,
you're going to find some circumstantial evidence
that you can at least get an impeachment out of
before it goes to impeachment,
and then it gets shot the fuck down
because it didn't happen or the person's not guilty.
But everybody has even minor skeletons in the closet
that might not necessarily go through with the impeachment
and kick you the fuck out of office.
But it's just going to keep happening.
At the end of the day, I think that as an American,
you should have the right to vote for who you want to,
not because there's a bunch of fucking Democrats in this one,
or a bunch of Democrats or Republicans,
doesn't matter who we're talking about here.
It's not just because it's Trump.
Well, you can't vote for a felon.
You can't vote for someone convicted of crime against America.
You see, and that's...
Or you can't vote for someone convicted of treason.
But that's kind of where my issue goes with it,
is that you're talking about a federally elected official,
and one state says,
mm, you can't vote for him,
and then it poses this colossal issue nationwide to that scale.
That kind of pisses me off.
I think that that's bullshit.
That's just my belief on it.
And I don't know, I don't have any...
I think I'm just not well-spoken enough about this.
Like, anybody who knows anything about politics
could tear me a new one right now, and I recognize that.
But my surface-level ignorant opinion is that.
I don't care if it's a Democrat or a Republican
or some third-party person.
I believe I should have the right to vote for them
if I damn well choose,
even if some fucking douchebag in some other state said,
oh, you can't vote for him here.
And so who would you vote for in Trump versus Biden?
I would vote for Trump.
But you don't...
Begrudgingly.
But you don't agree with his policies,
so why are you voting for him?
Why don't you vote...
I don't agree with Biden's either.
I'm very into...
So why are you voting for either of them?
Like, if I don't like someone and don't agree with them,
I'm gonna vote for them,
even if there's only two choices.
Because you're a true fucking martyr for your cause.
And I'll vote for fucking the Green Party.
Shout out, by the way.
I like the Green Party.
I fucking have loved the Green Party forever.
I couldn't tell you who the fucking candidates were.
It's been too long.
Fucking Howard...
What's his name?
Howard Hawkins?
Sounds about right.
He was running for the Green Party president
for, like, a few elections in a row.
Gotcha.
That's just like...
I'd love to, but at the end of the day,
this is a two-party system.
And I just...
But it doesn't have to be,
because everybody that says that could just vote third party.
But it's not gonna happen, though.
We need...
And...
The thing is, is that we've brain...
This country is so brainwashed
into believing that they can only vote for two people.
I'm included in this, just so you know.
But, like, we've been convinced to this point,
and the massive population of America has been convinced
that we cannot have a third party,
because it scares you, because if you...
Like, everybody's thought process is,
damn, I really want...
Like, let's just say for the argument's sake,
like, I really want this third party guy to win.
We'll call him fucking Joe Schmo.
I really want Joe Schmo to win.
But if I vote for him,
and Biden's my second choice,
and I'm taking my vote away from Biden for this guy,
and this guy doesn't get enough support,
I've divided the vote between Biden and this guy,
and it gives Trump, who I would loathe in this situation,
that guy gets essentially a free ticket in.
If you have that mass movement and it fails,
it can backfire hard.
And that's what scares people from doing it,
is they want their realistic choice.
I feel like most people that are...
Know what's going on in politics,
and they're gonna be super hesitant to vote for anybody else,
because it's so hard to get that mass movement started.
If there's a time, it would be now.
Because I think most people fucking hate both of the candidates,
or they fucking love one of them,
and hate the other person and all of their followers.
If we got everybody that said that together on both sides,
on, like, the Democratic side or Republican side that said that,
and we said, form your own party with your own independent views,
find something you have in common,
and pick a representative that you can vote for, a third party,
then they would get probably a majority of the vote, right?
Yeah, but, I mean, again, it needs to be somebody that is...
It needs to be somebody that you support enough to get into that role.
And then how does that work when it comes to the House and the Senate?
Then you have this third party leader,
and you're gonna have a fucking Senate and a House
full of Republicans and Democrats.
Because there's no way you're just gonna have this mass insight
of third party people all at once.
I just don't believe that that's possible.
Well, I think there needs to be a movement that's created over a few years
to have that, to have a strong third party in the United States.
Yeah, but they've been trying to spark that movement
since both of us have been born and before that, and it hasn't worked.
Like, when was... Who was the last president that was fucking not Republican or Democrat?
That would be the Whig Party back in the early 1800s.
And wasn't that just a spinoff of the Republicans anyways, more or less?
It was a spinoff of one of them. I remember that.
They were more conservative, yeah.
That would be like Libertarians or Green Party winning.
Like Libertarians, most of the shit they say aligns with the right.
Green Party, for the most part, it aligns with the left.
I know, Teddy Roosevelt actually ran in the Bull Moose Party.
He made his own fucking party.
He was kind of like Trump.
He was like, oh, because the Republicans asked him from the party or whatever,
said he couldn't run on their ticket.
Yeah, and then once he got in, it was probably the Republicans were his main backers though, right?
I mean, I don't know. I don't really know.
No, I think he actually lost the re-election.
Damn! That would have been cool.
Yeah.
But...
No, he wasn't elected when he was in the Bull Moose Party.
That fucking sucks.
I wish we could have that.
I mean, that would be the ideal situation, but I think it's just America's too big for that to happen.
That's so big of a movement.
And especially, most of these people are just set in their ways.
A lot of these people are just older people that don't, I think, have the fucking willpower to be like,
oh, yeah, I've been a Democrat for so long, or oh, I've been a Republican for so fucking long.
They're not willing to change, to support a third party.
Yeah.
I think every time I've taken a political...
So, when I took the political quizzes when I was in college the first time, like 2015, 2016,
most of my beliefs aligned with Green Party.
Now, I'm primarily Libertarian.
I think Republican was second, and then Green Party was third, and Democrats fourth.
But it's just like, I don't see a Libertarian or a Green Party ever fucking getting in there.
I could see the shit with fucking Teddy happening.
I could see that happening with Trump.
Like, let's say he fucking loses this election, really wants to get back in,
but he does some more outlandish shit, goes a little bit more Kanye on us.
Fucking Republicans don't want him back.
He's still going to have a ton of national support, because there's so many people that are brainwashed fucking Trump heads.
Well, I think it's because every issue that you have, right, there's always going to be two sides,
because there's always going to be people that agree with it and don't agree with it.
So that's where you get the two parties.
And every single issue, the Republicans or Democrats pick a stance on.
And it seems kind of arbitrary.
It is.
That you have to agree with everything.
You get two options.
Every issue, yeah, two options.
There's nothing bipartisan.
There's also stuff that's in between.
There's also having new ideas.
Yeah, there is, but we're not two sides to everything.
I know, but our system doesn't really work well with those issues.
It's always the two sides would come up with their solution, and then they argue about them.
And then nobody gets through to anyone.
And then if a couple of Republicans vote in favor of a Democrat thing,
all the Republicans hate those couple people forever.
And then vice versa.
It's just a fucking...
Anytime you see these fucking people in the Senate or the House support some,
they support the view of the opposite party.
You see them get shit on by their state.
It hurts them in their election chances the next time they're up.
It's like, that fucking guy, I voted him to be a fucking Republican.
He's over there voting Democrat for shit.
It's not what I fucking voted for.
They do, yeah.
And that kills you.
So even the politicians themselves are forced to make decisions
that they might not necessarily agree with.
But then in times of war, everybody comes together, right?
That's how it should be.
I don't necessarily think that's true now.
Wow.
Not anymore, but in 2001, I was watching the speech that George Bush gave after 9-11.
Oh, yeah.
They all gave him a standing ovation for everything he said.
Everybody did, yeah.
And that was the most together our country has been.
But even then, even after that, I mean, don't get me wrong,
we still had Afghanistan and all that Middle East shit going on when Obama was in office.
But you saw the division creeping back in with him in office.
And then right after Obama got out, everything got real hairy.
Everything got real hairy real quick as soon as fucking Trump took the stand.
I remember when fucking Trump came in.
Nobody fucking liked Trump when he announced it.
Everybody's like, oh, this is a fucking joke.
He's not going in.
And then he's just funny.
He's just fucking funny in his debates.
And then people started to like him because you get one dude up there with a bunch of fucking nerdy ass politicians that have been reading over their material for hours and hours.
And then you get Donald Trump, who just walks in there.
I don't fucking know anything, but I'm going to roast the fuck out of these guys.
I remember at the time I was like, yeah, this is just a joke.
But here I am wearing a Trump hat.
Yeah, I was so fucking pissed off as little 18 year old me could not stand what was happening.
I thought he was making a mockery of the system.
And now he is.
And I agree.
But it's like you look you look at it now and it's like, well, that's what people wanted.
People wanted somebody that was going to fucking shake the nest a little bit.
Fucking they wanted somebody that was going to go in there and make some fucking change.
I think he's definitely influenced a lot of not just politics, but everybody in their everyday lives.
Yeah.
People more like acting like that now, like they're not afraid to say shit.
At least I am. Maybe it's just because I'm getting older.
I remember family reunions.
Like my dad's side of the family, we got a couple of strong Republicans.
And then the rest of my family is predominantly Democrat.
Before we would have debates about politics, like on a Thanksgiving dinner.
It wasn't anything crazy. There wasn't arguments.
Once that Trump election happened, though, bro, there was a whole other level of anger.
It was like if he fucking comes in here and he starts talking that stupid fucking Trump or shit, that fucking racist fuck, I'm going to kick him the fuck out of my house.
And you'd be like, Aunt Meg, isn't that your brother?
I fucking hate him. I hate him. He likes Trump.
He's a fucking racist pig, fucking misogynist douchebag.
It's like fucking hell, man.
I can relate to that.
And it's like, Jesus Christ, like before we were at least getting along, it was civil.
And like you might go home and disagree and just be like, all right, well, I love you.
I can't say I agree with your political stance, but whatever.
Agree to disagree. There's no more agreeing to disagree.
It's like I'll fucking drop the gloves if you come in my house and start spouting that shit, you fucking pussy.
Like that's what my family, not reunions, but dinners have turned into.
Well, because every presidential candidate up to that point has been like pretty much civil.
But Trump was going off like making jokes about women and shit. Like fucking Rosie O'Donnell.
Yeah. And like the craziest thing was I just remember when that fucking grab her by the pussy line came out.
And like if that was any other election, that would have buried him.
Like that would have been it.
Oh, everything that he's done up to this point.
I know. There's so many things.
But I remember it was like.
Now he can say whatever he wants, right? Because nobody gives a fuck anymore.
Yeah. And I remember my Democratic family on that on that side of the family.
They were so happy when that news came out.
There's like, oh, did you hear what he said? Yeah, like we're totally going to fucking win now.
There's no way he gets in after saying that.
And it was like and I was super Democratic at the time to come stand Trump.
And I was just like, guys, I hate to break it to you.
But like if none of the shit that came out before this has caught on with the people that are supporting him, this is nothing like they don't care.
Like they support the fact that he said that they think it's funny.
And they're going to root for him because he said it.
Maybe we just need someone like him on the Democratic side.
Like if we could take like the same personality as him.
But you can't, though, that doesn't exist.
Like that outspoken level, because that is why you can still be because he get canceled.
That's what the Democrats love.
Fucking canceling people.
I'm not saying like someone who makes like like controversial jokes or comments, I'm saying that someone that's like outspoken and doesn't give a fuck but stays within the bounds of like what's civil.
But that's the thing, though, is the Democrats have set those bounds so fucking hard.
Not Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but even then.
But it's like it's hard for a fucking Democrat to tear into a like just historically you look at debates and it's just like.
I think I fucking love that I touched on this briefly one of the last couple of episodes, but those fucking like YouTube shorts channels where it'll be like some guy goes to a college campus and the Republicans like let's debate.
And you never see anybody who does that.
And first, obviously, the person is publishing their content.
They're only going to show the highlights of when they fucking destroy that when they prove their point.
Oh, dude, I got a video.
But there's not many of those channels where it's a Democrat saying, hey, fucking Republicans come at me like I'm going to fucking school you because if you're well spoken enough politically, you can do that.
It doesn't matter what fucking party you are.
You can make anybody look like an ass if you know more about the subject than them.
Right.
Because if you say like, oh, well, what do you have to say about this?
And they have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
They're not going to be able to come up with a coherent response to that.
So.
Yeah.
I was looking for.
Rama Swami.
He was fucking doing this like this like, I don't know, he's speaking in front of a bunch of people, not a bunch of people.
It was only like 50 people.
OK.
And this fucking blue haired like fucking shit got up and she goes, she goes, I want to know what you think about LGBTQ.
He's like, what?
What the fuck?
She's like, yeah.
And she's like instantly aggressive.
Right.
And she's like, because she thinks that he's going to say some shit that's going to be like, I don't support you at all.
And he goes, and he goes, do you have a question?
He's like he's being like he was being very nice to her.
Right.
And it was cool.
But he's like, so I'm going to let you talk and then you're going to let me talk and we're going to have like a civil conversation about this.
And he's like, so ask your question and she like obviously didn't have a question.
She just wanted to yell at him.
She's like, so so my question is, what is your stance on LGBTQ?
Which is not even a question.
Right.
But he was just he made he gave some really good answer that was like he started talking about like transgender ism and like, you know, how kids shouldn't be transgender.
And he gave a good answer and shit.
And then she just started she was obviously drunk.
She started just she was drunk.
Yeah, she was drinking while she was why she was saying that.
Oh, I always I always love these when they're on school campuses.
He managed to like calmer down some and they were they were able to get into like kind of debate like with a drunk person, which is not really that of a debate.
But no, but yeah, I like that video about him.
Well, it's a good way to deal with that.
That's the thing is that everybody approaches like fucking political debates now.
Like if it's like even just like me talking with like, for example, like fucking Tyler about politics, eventually we're going to find someone we disagree about.
And one of us is going to like get amped up and be like, no, I'm right.
Damn it. I'm right.
And it's like, why does it have to be that way?
We don't have to do that.
That doesn't have to be like a fucking altercation like that can just we can just say our piece and move on.
But it doesn't fucking happen.
We just argue.
And that's not how it used to be.
I mean, it existed.
It did.
I'm not saying it never happened, but like it was so much less common.
Before the last year, like in a presidential debate or something like in a debate, I'm all for arguing.
Not like it doesn't have to be like arguing, like like I don't like personal attacks.
Yeah, I like that.
Or like just like yelling over the other person.
People that think that if they speak louder, they want an argument.
But yeah, that's what it is now, though.
It's you approach it with aggression.
And it's like nine out of 10, 10 out of 10 times.
The more aggressive party is just going to come across looking like a fucking dumb ass if the other person is cool and composed.
Even if the other person is saying something that's coherent and correct, it's hard to support them when you have one person who's maintaining and be like, OK, yeah, I'm listening to what you're saying.
OK, now I'm going to give my response.
Like you're just kind of going to support that person regardless, just because they're not being a fucking dickhead about it.
And like there's always a dickhead.
Now, there's always a dickhead.
We don't know how to have conversations without at least one person approaching a fucking political argument without bringing aggression with it.
That's what people say. That's what people are seeing now on the debate stage, like in the fucking Republican debates like Trump.
Yeah, because Trump opened that Pandora's box that didn't exist before.
And well, it did. But we closed it like fucking wasn't even like fucking Andrew Jackson like that.
Like he was super polarizing like that.
And he got people all up in arms. Yeah.
Like you look back then like that shit happened, kind of trailed away and we got back to like your presidential people like fucking George Bush and fucking Reagan.
Ronald Reagan.
Yeah, Ronald Reagan. He was another super polarizing one.
But then you have fucking like George W. George Bush.
And then you have fucking Obama and like both of them like the Dems disagreed with George Bush.
The Republicans disagreed with Obama.
But I believe that there was way more respect amongst those two than the Republicans have respect for Joe Biden and the Democrats have respect for Donald Trump.
But there were still extremists back then. There were people that wanted to lynch Obama.
There was, but that was so much less prevalent.
Like, I mean, I feel like you would see like a fucked up meme about it every once in a while on iFunny.
But it was just there for the shock value.
Like it wasn't there to be like, well, I feel like back then there wasn't like a lot of shit like that.
There wasn't the Internet.
Well, there wasn't as much shit on the Internet.
So people would just be saying this like to each other rather than posting it on the Internet.
I will say Obama got a lot more hate than I think he otherwise would have because he was black though.
Because everybody's like that fucker ain't American.
And then you know the people in the South.
There's some people in the South that are like, what the fuck is he doing running for president?
And it's like that's such a fucked up belief.
But you know that that was going on.
You still see that type of racism in the South.
So it's like everything's touchy.
Everything's really touchy.
You piss everybody off no matter where you go.
How do you think?
Do you agree with them being able to fly Confederate flags in the South?
I think it's kind of like a little bit of a douchebag move just because of what it stands for.
Because I think that that promotes division between the country.
But I believe, yeah, I believe that you should be able to.
It's America.
It's a free country.
It's just kind of a fucking douchebag thing to do though.
It is a douchebag thing to do.
Like it's just, it's sure you can be like, oh, well, this is the flag of my people and the history behind it.
Yeah, yeah, we get that.
But it was also you guys were trying to secede from our country.
You lost.
You're now part of America and you're still flying this flag.
I just hate when I see that shit.
When I see that shit in fucking upstate New York, it's like you're not from the South.
Go the fuck away.
This would be like if fucking Russia wins the Ukraine war and then they just fucking start flying Ukrainian flags in Ukraine.
Like Russia is going to be like, hey, take that the fuck down now.
Like, no, it's like this is Russia now.
We did that.
We lost.
And I don't know.
It promotes division, I guess is what I'm saying.
But yes, I believe that you should be able to.
I think that's more or less free speech.
But I think I was talking about that a few episodes ago.
How I fucking hate state New York Rednecks.
Yeah, me too.
You see you see Confederate flags up here all the time.
It's like the fuck in one of my family members.
Yeah, it's like we're in New York.
What the fuck are you doing?
Go Confederacy.
Bro, you are literally on the wrong team even back then right now.
Like fucking hell.
You got to go further down, buddy.
If you want that flag, even have the meaning you want it to.
But I think it is.
I think it is a crazy jump, though, to say like, oh, this guy has this fucking cross with some stars on it.
Oh, my God.
They fucking support slavery.
Like, I don't think that's a stretch.
That's an assumption.
Like, you don't know what a person's beliefs are just because they hang a confederate flag.
You don't know what their beliefs are if they put a swastika.
Yeah, but you can't do that.
And that's that I was going to get into the swastikas is because I feel it's interesting, but I feel like a swastika is more extreme.
Well, so the Holocaust and all that shit happened, right?
And they banned the swastika in Germany.
Yeah, slavery killed more people than the Holocaust.
Yes, it did.
But there's also more slaves on this planet now than there ever has been.
Right now?
Yeah, with like human trafficking and everything.
That's a fact. You can fact check me on that.
That is true.
There are more human slaves in this world than there ever has been.
Albeit that is because our population is a lot fucking higher, too.
Like, I'm sure if you get the percentage of people that are slaves right now, it's probably less than back then.
But there are more slaves living in this world right now than there ever has been, which is fucking insane.
I think if people are saying that you can't put a swastika up, you can't put the Confederate flag up because that is like a genocide in itself.
Yeah. So are you saying that you don't believe that? So you're saying you should not be able to put the swastika up?
No, other than for historical purposes. For museums and schools.
But don't you see that as a... And while I agree with the reasoning behind not allowing it, I would also say it's just...
It's so tough. It's so tough. Because where do you say that this is a flag and where do you say that this is a symbol of hate?
Because there's a line there. And who decides that?
What were the rebels fighting for? Tyler would say, oh, it wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights.
But they fucking started it because they weren't allowing slaves in the new states that were admitted to the Union.
So that was the major contributing factor. That was the major dividing factor.
Yes. Yes, it was.
I don't know how Tyler can argue that.
I don't know either.
He is not here.
He's not here to defend himself, so he shouldn't take too many shots at him for it.
But no, I don't know. Because I think it comes down to... I hate to say, but I have the same symbol.
And I think this is just me being a little bit more like small government. My head.
But I don't think that having... I would never own one. I'm not supporting anyone.
And if I saw it in your house, I would probably never speak to you again.
But I think that you should have the right to put a fucking swastika up in your house if you damn well please.
And that's because I believe that this is a free country.
That being said, you're a fucking loser if you put a swastika up.
But it's like, I disagree with doing it, but I think that the right to be able to is necessary.
I think that that teeters on censorship if you say that you can't have a confederacy.
I agree with you about that. Because that's what I was talking about.
I think at the beginning of this podcast was freedom of speech and your right to say anything, even if you don't agree with it.
And it gets infringed upon.
But that was just hate speech, though. I feel like...
But that's the thing, though, is where do you draw that line? Where's the line for you with hate speech?
Throwing people in ovens?
But what about a swastika flag inherently says we're throwing people in ovens?
Because it was the symbol for the Nazi party.
Well, yes. But what if the person supports the Nazi party, but they think that the fucking Holocaust was horrible?
What if they think the Holocaust didn't happen? What if they're a Holocaust denier?
Well, that's another question. But what if it's the confederacy and it's like, oh, my people fought in that war back yonder, and it's my family history, and I put that flag up.
He carried that on his back. He got shot in the head with a fucking musket with that fucking thing.
I could go to Germany and find people that their ancestors fought in World War II and died, you know, for the fucking...
Well, that's Germany, though. This is America. This is a free country. We won that war.
Germany's a free capitalist country, too. Independent.
I know. But they don't have our fucking constitution.
But they're... right. Right. But they have freedom of speech there.
They just don't want fucking swastikas. I don't know. It sounds like there's an asterisk next to that free speech, at least in my mind. That's the way I see it.
I think that... I mean, it's so tricky because to play devil's advocate against my own belief here, if you have enough people, let's say, in America, let's say, hey, let's fucking hang up a bunch of swastikas, they get a fucking movement going on.
Next thing you know, you got a Fourth Reich on your hands. That's a problem. And I agree that that's a problem.
But at the same point, that's the people. They made their decision. I don't know. I feel like I have a very Darwinistic fucking impression of politics sometimes.
But the same people that support the Confederate flag are the people wearing MAGA hats, which are the same people that are trying to break into the US government and throw an insurrection.
Yeah, but I mean, the thing is, and I could say that there is a whole bunch of extremists on the left side. They just don't... I mean, they have plenty of flags to hide behind, too. But they're not... obviously, their histories aren't as...
Oh, well, think about this. The guy, the bison guy, he was wearing a Confederate flag, right?
Yes, he was. Yes, he was.
So he committed treason against the United States. He was convicted of it.
Yeah. And I...
So that symbol is right there, something that goes against the United States.
You can, though. Just because he did that during the insurrection does not mean that that's the belief of everybody who supports the right wing.
I'd say, no, I'd say everybody who supports the Confederate flag more or less is a MAGA supporter or a conservative.
Oh, yeah. I think that most people that support...
What kind of democratic liberal supports the Confederate flag?
Well, I think that you can make the same argument for everybody that supports all the different type of LGBTQIA plus flags.
They're primarily gonna be fucking... they're gonna be your liberals.
But there's nothing...
I know. There's no hate language behind it, but I'm just saying, bro, we're already dividing ourselves behind flags.
And there's fucking people... like, we'll fucking burn Confederate flags up here, and we'll burn trans flags down in the South.
It's just... it's all symbolism.
When people are fighting about this, they're fucking martyrs.
Like, it's like the fucking... like they're taking away their freedom or something.
I just think it's stupid at the same time for the right wing to be using the Confederate flag because it's like they're not grasping the fact of like,
oh, we're taking a Confederate flag into the White House, like, I mean, the Capitol.
Like, oh, we're so fucking cool.
Buddy, you're bringing a flag because you disagree what's going on with the United States of America with your Republican Party.
So you're bringing a flag of the now defunct, seceded nation in?
Like, no, you're fighting for America right now.
Well, I think it was just last year that South Carolina took their Confederate flag off of their state Capitol.
Yeah.
I think that was last year.
They're fucking late to the party on that one.
Jesus Christ.
Holy fucking hell, guys.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, I think it's a douchebag move.
That's like a real... that was a state-backed flag.
Holy fuck.
On the Capitol.
That's insane.
That is fucking insane.
That's wild.
And of course, they have all the Confederate statues of like Robert E. Lee and shit like that.
Yeah.
I mean, but that is legitimately history, though.
I think you need to keep the statue.
I hate when statues get torn down and shit like that.
Like, I would argue that, like, I mean, don't get me wrong, if this is fucking like World War II Germany
and you just got beat and you realized the Third Reich might have not been as great as you thought it was,
maybe move the Adolf Hitler statues out of city squares, but don't destroy them.
What, Hitler statues?
Yeah.
No, by all means, destroy the Hitler statues.
I think you throw that shit in museums.
What are you talking about?
You got to throw that shit in museums, bro.
You need to remember that that shit happened and learn from it.
Oh, in museums.
Yeah, we can't.
Yeah.
Like I said, take it out of the city square.
We're not supporting it, but it's still history and needs to be documented as such.
I was like, damn.
No, no.
My whole stand, at no point did I, I didn't backpedal there.
That's what I said at first, was pull them out of the city squares, throw them in museums.
That's where they belong.
I'm just saying don't fucking destroy them.
Destroy them?
No.
Well, I think they should take all the Confederate statues down.
Who was the one in fucking Albany?
They took the one down in Albany, fucking Hochel did, and they opened that fucking time capsule
thing that was underneath and completely destroyed the thing in the process, by the way.
Who was that?
Was that?
I can't remember, but that statue's gone.
It's like-
Like Skyler?
I couldn't tell you who it was.
It was one of them, it was somebody that was famous in the Albany area that they found
out owned slaves or some shit.
Everybody owned slaves then, and I'm not fucking justifying that that type of behavior was
acceptable.
Yeah, towards Washington owned slaves.
Exactly.
Statues of him.
Exactly.
Have you ever Googled pictures of his fucking slave quarters?
No.
Look them up, they're horrible.
It's fucking horrible, Casey.
It looks like a fucking dungeon.
Because it was a dungeon.
And it's like-
It actually exists still?
Yeah, I thought they did tours of it actually.
Yeah.
Oh damn, this looks like a fucking slave shop.
Yeah, it looks fucking horrible.
And it's like, dude, what?
Like look at that, that looks fucking horrible.
Bunk beds and shit, like brick walls.
I don't know, that's fucked up to me.
And it's like, oh yeah.
But no, no, we're gonna, just because we're Albany and we wanna be fucking woke-
It's kind of quaint.
But it's still fucking slave quarters there.
I'm sure they threw those fucking bunk beds in, made it look all nice and pretty.
Looks like something rich people would take a vacation to, like in a cabin in the woods
to get away for some shit.
Casey, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.
There was a fucking bedroll on a stone floor.
And that's where somebody slept.
Make sure there's not chains hanging off the wall.
It doesn't look like a fucking bondage dungeon or anything.
But fucking George, like George Washington had the fucking slaves.
But it's like, oh, this guy important to him.
You can't fucking cancel somebody like 200 years down the road.
That's just ridiculous to me.
I don't get that.
That's fucking wild.
What he did was par for the course at that point, if it was just slaves.
Everybody fucking had them.
Anybody in any position of power did.
And I'm not justifying that, but that was the way it was then.
Well, you're right.
That was normal.
I don't think you.
It's like we don't have a lot of historical figures in Albany.
Like who the fuck are you going to put a statue of there now?
Look at our past fucking governors that have been in the.
Put a statue of Cuomo.
Yeah, like fucking, what was the one dude?
No, fuck, I can't remember his goddamn name.
Fucking Elliot Spitzer.
Spitzer, that was the one.
Yeah, he was the kiddie porn kid, right?
Or kiddie fucker.
No, he was like prostitution.
Prostitution, prostitution.
You never know with them.
It's like they're always probably underage.
Oh, speaking of underage, did you?
Sorry, I didn't even realize I just did that.
Did you hear about our good old list that got released today?
No.
The Epstein list came out today.
Oh.
And it's still being dissected by the press.
But there's been a couple mentions of people.
Michael Jackson was there.
However, the person, the Jane Doe that was interviewed about him was they said, did you ever see Michael Jackson?
Oh, there's like a list of famous people that were there.
Yeah, it's like 136 names or something.
A whole lot of fucking people are sweating right now.
You're going to see some crazy shit coming out the next couple of days.
There's already been like, look, if you look up Epstein list, there's probably a handful of names that have broke since this morning that haven't been out.
Because it was like a drip feed coming out more or less of what was going on.
Because there's so many documents.
It takes a while to sift through them.
Didn't Obama go there?
I don't know.
I'm not going to pretend like I do.
Second batch of documents was released on January.
Yeah, we just, it's like a seasonal, it's like the Rocket League seasons at this point.
Every season we get five more names.
Donald Trump.
Who else?
Donald Trump got named?
He wasn't before.
At least I don't think so.
There was a couple people.
The witness said in the deposition that Epstein mentioned calling Trump and so the group would go to his casino when a storm forced his jet to land in Atlantic City in 2001.
The witness was asked if she gave Trump a massage but said no.
Newsweek reported Trump's spokesperson said claims regarding Trump's relationship with Epstein were thoroughly debunked.
Trump said that he knew Epstein like everybody in Palm Beach knew him.
He was a fixture in Palm Beach.
Trump said at the time I had a falling out with him a long time ago.
I haven't spoken to him in 15 years.
I wasn't a fan.
Yeah, Clinton was there and he was named to quote unquote like him younger.
Cut David Copperfield but he's not accused of any wrongdoing.
Michael Jackson wasn't accused of any wrongdoing to my knowledge.
Michael Jackson.
Yeah, Michael Jackson.
They asked him the same question.
Did he receive a massage and the answer was no.
What does a massage have to do with this?
Because it was by an underage female.
Oh.
But I got to look though because there was a couple of them.
Did I save it?
Fuck.
There was an Instagram post that like laid out like six or seven of the names and I don't think I did anything with it to be honest.
Fucking typical Alimak.
No production value whatsoever.
But yeah.
Wait, did I?
Oh, did I?
I might have.
Nope, I didn't.
God fucking damn it.
We hate it here.
I feel like if there was anything anyone big on there would be like big news right now.
I think it's I mean, but like it's the second round of them.
There's a lot.
They said that there was one hundred and thirty six names listed there and sure a lot of them are probably going to be.
Nope, didn't happen.
But like the other thing that I think and I wish I wish we got the truth out of what happened at Epstein's Island.
I don't think we will.
I don't necessarily believe in what these documents are going to say.
Like these people in power are not going to let that info get out no matter what.
And I mean like Casey, do you think Epstein killed himself?
I think everybody thinks that now.
No, but it's like at the same point, like just now.
Oh, we're going to we're going to figure out everything that was going to come out.
Like, no, no.
These like these fucking Jane does.
Like it, I just don't trust what's coming out of it.
Like I think that they're going to give us a couple.
I think that they're going to give us a couple just to quell the population.
There's going to be a couple scapegoats.
So like, yeah, Bill Clinton fucked kids.
And who's really had this guy?
And I couldn't I don't know Casey.
I'm not going to I'm not going to miss feed information here because I don't know the answer.
But fucking I don't think I just don't see this holding anyway.
I think there's going to be a couple scapegoats.
I think they're going to say, oh, yeah, Bill Clinton fucked kids.
A couple other big names like, oh shit, Tom Hanks, bro, whatever.
Like and then is that like just speculation?
No, Bill Clinton, I believe, was named.
You can look it up.
And I believe it said, quote unquote, he likes them younger.
That was what that was what I saw.
Look it up.
Fact check me on it, because I don't know.
But I saw that maybe I got it from a wrong source.
I believe that was the puberty Instagram channel, which isn't like a fucking.
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey Epstein told victim that Bill Clinton likes them young.
Yeah. So that that did that was said.
So like there's scapegoat number one, which don't get me wrong.
I believe the office maintains that he knows nothing about Jeffrey.
Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah, fucking course they did.
But like they're going to bury Bill.
They're going to bury a couple other guys and they're going to get the American people thinking that they got the truth.
And I don't believe that it is the truth.
I think that we're brainwashed and we're just accepting it.
I think that is keeping power.
I think it's good that they're putting out some of these people, these names.
Do you think that way?
You said you think I'm right or you disagree?
I think you're right that they're not releasing all of them.
Obviously, you can't.
There's a lot of people that the government's protecting.
A lot of people and a lot of fucking power.
And I don't believe that they should be protected, but that's the way it is.
It's a fucking powder keg.
It's a powder keg.
It's Republicans.
It's Democrats.
It's fucking everybody.
Because it's the end.
We talk.
I think we've talked about this before.
Maybe Dan has.
I can't remember.
But it's like these this Alex Jones did actually.
And it's just like these fucking politicians do this shit.
Like I think Alex Jones and fucking Obama was involved in everything.
But like they they do this like the politicians will pressure other people that are in position to the power like newer politicians and stuff to.
Fucking go to islands like that or fuck kids so they have mutual dirt on one another.
It's like hey, you know, I fuck kids.
I know you fuck kids.
So we're not going to talk shit about one another.
All right, because we're never going to let this out.
It's like you just want to have that dirt on somebody.
But it's like when everybody that knows this shit and everybody that did it, I think it's stupid.
It's fucking weird.
It's really fucking weird.
But I think way more people in power fuck kids than we know about because like it so many people.
But I think these politicians might start off with humble beginnings and they want to make the world a better place.
And I think this goes for every political party.
I don't think it's just them.
I don't think it's just Republicans.
I think that once you get an office, even if you have pure intentions, eventually you're going to develop more or less.
And they're not really delusions, but delusions of grandeur.
And you're going to keep chasing that high of being in this power situation.
And these people fuck kids is like being like, well, I'm fucking invincible.
I can fuck kids.
And that's not OK.
Please don't clip this and take it out of context.
It would look really bad for me.
It's like but it's like, oh, I can fuck kids because I'm in a position of power.
Nobody else could do this except for me.
So that probably sexually turns them on.
And that's fucked up.
Oh, hell yes.
Smelling salt.
But now, man, it's loaded.
We're loaded with the air.
We're loading.
We might have to refresh.
Oh, boy.
We've been recording, right?
Oh, we've been recording.
Good.
Let's take a little break here.
I think I think we're going to down in a little bit, too.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll be right back.
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So does that actually work?
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What do you think happens if you put two Alexas next to each other?
You think they get them started on a conversation?
You could give them a feedback loop.
Yeah.
You ever see that where people do that with Google?
I was thinking about doing that with ChatGPT.
Can you do that?
Get them talking to each other?
Does ChatGPT have a voice?
No.
You could probably just program it, some text to speech thing, though.
You could probably make a way just for them to, I don't know.
You could give them different voices, too.
I wonder what the fuck they would talk about, dude.
That would be crazy.
Well, they kind of did that with that fucking Squid the SpongeBob thing that Tyler was
watching for a couple of weeks.
They like, no, that was me.
Oh, that was you?
Yeah.
Oh, I thought Tyler found that.
No, that was me.
I was obsessed with that shit.
Yeah.
That shit's fucking funny.
But wasn't that AIs talking to one another?
Did they write a script and?
No, that was AIs just writing random scripts.
That's fucking awesome.
That is hysterical.
Or no, it was people would suggest stuff.
It was like topics and then the AI would run with it.
Yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
That's weird.
There's like a weird like I think that might just be Dan.
I'm breathing.
Yes.
What were you going to say?
There's a weird what like a weird breathing sound.
I think you're going to say there's a weird person breathing into the microphone.
No, you're correct.
So Ali Max, we were talking about Epstein's list came out and Alan Maxwell is that Stephen
Hawking was on the list.
Stephen Hawking was accused of being in a underage orgy and there's documents of fucking
there's documents of what you might call it fucking Epstein trying to offer people to
pay to somehow prove his innocence even though he was known to be guilty at that point.
Stephen Hawking.
Yeah.
Epstein was trying to offer money to somebody some some Jaseen Maxwell or something to get
like show proof that he didn't do it.
Like that's it.
But nothing.
What the fuck?
I don't know.
What the fuck?
I don't know.
I doubt all these people are involved in that shit.
I doubt I just doubt it, dude.
Like there's no way Stephen Hawking.
Look at him.
What do you really think he wants to fuck a kid in that position?
Like it's just I just don't see him.
Fuck.
He better not be true.
No, he went if you saw the movie about his life growing up, he fell in love with his
like young nurse and they got married and she became his wife.
So damn.
Yeah.
Well, it says an email shows that the multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein was willing to give money
to Virginia Jew Jew freeze friends to help prove that her claims were false.
Sounds like a so they were so they were offering money to the chick who made the claims that
Hawking was involved in it.
But money to shut them the fuck up and say that she wasn't telling the truth.
The question is, right?
Like why are all these people involved with this fucking guy?
I think it's because how did he work his way up to the top of the world?
He offered the most powerful people in the world.
He offered like a way for like rich pedophiles to come together and like participate in this
that they could do without like getting caught.
We got into this a little bit.
Do you think that that's all it is, though?
So I feel like there's a layer that's missing because I feel like I don't know.
So I think the layer that's missing and I got into this a little bit with Casey before,
so I'll try to keep it quick.
But I think it's essentially like you add a couple of fucking power hungry, like fucking
politicians that knew that they could get away with being pedophiles, right?
Because they're in positions of power.
Who the fuck is ever going to believe that?
So you get a couple people that do that.
And then they start pressuring their friends in politics and shit who don't necessarily
want to fuck kids to fuck kids so that they have mutual dirt on one another.
And it's sort of like a ride or die situation for those people going forward.
So I think a lot of these people were pressured to fuck kids by people above them.
So it's like we have this on you.
So don't fuck up.
Like, don't don't blow the powder keg, essentially.
Right, right.
So if you want to make it to the next level, you got to fuck some kids.
You got to do some terrible next level shit because we have that's that's a I genuinely
believe that we have collateral.
Right.
We have collateral against you.
But it's like you will be you will be in the history books.
You will be part of the upper echelon of all society that's ever existed.
But in order to get there, we got to have some dirt on you and you got to fuck a 14
year old.
Yep.
I just feel like I think that's how it is, man.
I feel like that's that's what Alex Jones thought.
And how much of his shit from.
And that was golden era Alex Jones that said that, by the way, before he fucking went completely
off the deep end.
And like, dude, it's just like for real, though, like I think like I understand.
I'm not saying I fucking support it in any way, shape or form.
It's fucking disgusting.
But I understand the psychology behind why a politician would want to fuck a kid.
And it's because they still hungry for that power.
But there are terrible the podcast just stop there.
So that's what I was saying before.
Like Casey can make a lot of sound bites and some really questionable.
I was saying that on his podcast is not not just with kids, but with like regular politicians
that go to these like orgies like Bohemian Grove.
And they like they're like, if you're fucking to do it in the ass, like calling them daddy,
like that's like your that's like the most like power you can have.
Yeah, it's it's a total power like fucking this like like the president of the United
States and they have to answer some shit.
You're like the king of the world.
Yeah, I don't know.
I dude, I feel like.
I feel like so many people like we like to portray them as evil.
But in reality, they're just like regular people, like they have all the same problems
we like.
We like to think that just because they're like powerful people that I don't know.
I think exactly who you in growth.
All right.
Well, I'm not talking about I don't know enough.
I'm just on the list.
He was he was, but all the evidence on the list was kind of like the Jane Doe's like,
yeah, he was there.
But to my knowledge, he didn't do anything.
Yeah, there's no evidence of wrongdoing.
Yeah, there is no evidence of wrongdoing for Trump or for like Michael Jackson was there.
He didn't do anything to our knowledge.
Yeah, OK.
I know.
How does he not have been proven something yet?
I don't know, bro.
Dude, but why were all these fucking people like, like, dude, OK, if somebody came to
me and they said, I got a private jet, like you want to go to my private island, I'd be
like, yeah, dude, of course I want to go to your fucking private island.
But these people could have their own private jet.
But fucked.
I mean, Donald Trump, the one.
Yeah.
So no, but it's like like Michael Jackson can fly his own private jet.
Right.
Donald Trump has his own jet.
So he's not hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein because he wants to fly in his airplane because
he thinks it's cool.
Like what is the fucking reason?
And I looked at the list and Trump only went from D.C. to Tito Burrow.
Yeah.
So he went Tito Burrow to D.C. and D.C. to Tito Burrow.
Epstein's jet.
But why the fuck does he have any affiliation with this?
I don't know.
But that's that's the big question is that like these people did go there.
Whether or not you even want to get into the kiddie fucker.
I agree.
It's kind of weird that you have all these people in a position of power that are just
coming and going through through this random fucking billionaires mansion, dude, I think
on a fucking private island with a bunch of weird minor fucking employees.
It's just creepy.
It's just fucking weird.
Yeah, I just I don't know.
I don't think I've documented something missing, dude, because it's just like, ah,
like that's OK.
You got the kid thing, but there's another layer to this that's not adding up.
You mean like the shit that they're talking about while they're there?
Or like, do you think do you think that this could be like a Bohemian Grove on a smaller
scale where it's just like this was a meeting place?
This guy had something else.
It's I don't think it's just kids, dude.
Bohemian Grove was like rituals and like gay cults and shit like that.
But maybe just Epstein is the one dude who had the outlet to have these fucking kids
on this private island.
I know, but there's just well known.
But there's people that that it's like kind of obvious that they weren't really like involved
with the kids at all.
Yeah.
Right.
You know what I mean?
But everybody hangs out there.
Right.
Like you said, that's what I'm saying.
Gatsby, everybody's not this many.
There's not that many pedophiles.
There might be a lot of them in Hollywood and in powerful positions, but there's not
that many.
So does this guy?
There's more than you think.
I was like, I think there's a certain percentage of celebrities.
No.
Did he have access to to like unlimited funds?
How much was defined unlimited?
It was like he had a ridiculous amount of money.
I know that.
Epstein, what did he do?
He was like a self made.
I would have to look, but he's like self made or he had his fucking companies and shit.
Now, the guy who started it was one of these clothing companies like Abercrombie and Fitch,
not Abercrombie and Fitch.
It was one of those like one of those kind of clothing companies, one of the popular
ones.
He basically bamboozled this guy into getting his and his money.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I think this guy was gay and he pretended to be gay to like get in with him and then
got him to sign over like basically his inheritance.
Oh, like his estate to Epstein.
Yeah.
Damn.
So some guy.
Never mind, I retract my self made comment.
I thought that's what it was.
Yeah.
So he just like wiggled his way into this guy's fucking fortune.
Yeah.
So he's just a fucking fraud.
That's fucking insane.
Really strange.
It's like, is Tyler here?
Damn.
I know.
I agree with you.
It is.
What do you think it was?
I want to hear what you think, Dan.
Bro, there's only somebody who's a fucking pedophile.
There's one thing that I think that powerful people like more than that.
And it would be fucking money.
It has to do with money.
Money.
Yeah, you're right.
Money assets.
Because dude, it's like these powerful people, they're so focused on fucking money that even
if they liked kids, I don't even think they would dedicate five minutes of their fucking
day to thinking about fucking a kid.
Like because they're so focused on, they're so greedy and focused on getting money.
They probably don't think twice about it.
But dude, I doubt that they're so driven by their fucking sexual urges that they're going
to take it away from what they like more than that and it's money.
I just don't, I think there was a small percentage of people.
I think it was more of a buffet than it was just a pedophile ring.
So you think it was just like the grounds for people to make deals with or do you think
he had like, was he managing offshore accounts or like what do you think he's-
Whatever your thing is.
Like whatever your thing is.
It's like he can make it happen.
You know what I mean?
So-
You mean sexual fantasy wise?
Or just like drugs?
Yeah, everything.
He's just the go to guy.
You can do anything you want when you have that amount of money.
Because of the time everybody thought he was discreet.
That amount of influence and power.
He's doing it for however long.
He's got a proven track record and nobody getting caught up to that point.
Because he like had ties to the government and shit, right?
I don't know.
He might have.
Dude, I fucking watched all these documentaries and shit like when he killed himself.
But for those that are listening, there was air quotations around the suicide part there
killed himself.
But now it's just that I feel like I forgot most of them.
And now it's like, oh, the list is coming out.
What I was asking, I want to hear your take.
I think what we're getting now, this little drip feed and names and stuff.
I don't think that we're getting the whole truth with these.
What's your take on?
Because I just feel like they're going to bury a couple people and there's going to
be a couple scapegoats and they're just going to be like, oh look, the documents are out.
You guys know what happened now.
And I feel like there's a whole bunch of shit that happened there that we still have no
idea of.
Dude, I'm sure that there's got to be some sort of censorship, right?
Such powerful people that are like on other lists.
Maybe I think they're just like giving a little bit as a distraction.
Yeah.
From like what's really out there.
Yeah.
So like they can just.
Princes of like, you know, some fucking, I don't know, like countries in the Middle
East and shit.
Fucking Prince, what's his face?
Prince Harry or whatever.
Yeah.
I was just like, oh, fucking not Harry.
It was Harry.
That's Andrew.
Yeah.
Andrew.
Yeah.
He was on there.
Yeah.
And what's crazy is like all the fucking effort they're trying to pin something on Trump,
like the New York state or the New York City DA's office.
And Andrew, which one?
They just let him settle out of court for fucking a 16 year old or whatever.
They're like, oh, oh yeah.
Trump overvalued his estate, apparently.
Right.
I'm doing the air quotes.
Yeah.
He overvalued his estate.
Okay.
We're going to fucking pursue that to no fucking end because he's a political opponent.
Oh, Prince Andrew came here and fucked a kid.
Yeah.
Well, they can settle out of court.
That doesn't.
Which one is Prince Andrew?
I don't know.
He's one of those fucking jagged tooth fucking British.
Yeah.
Is he the one that.
Holy shit.
Is he in line to become the monarch?
I don't fucking know.
I don't know.
Because he was with.
Because he fucked a kid.
He was literally.
This is the last time we're going to say that term, but he was literally with Epstein fucking
kids and it's like the world knew.
So the royal family is like, hey, we got to kind of like, I mean, she was 17, 16 or 17,
but it's like, dude, still one you crossed.
It's illegal to cross state lines to do that.
Right.
This guy crossed fucking oceans to do that.
I think it's just illegal whether you cross state lines or not.
Chuck Barry crossed state lines and that's what dinged him on that.
Actually, when I looked into him.
Was it Rob Lowe or.
That sounds like some Rob Lowe would do.
Yeah.
He like he had a sex tape where he was like fucking a 16 year old.
Jesus Christ.
That's what I'm saying is like, it's way too fucking common, man.
Like.
But it was legal in the state.
He did it, but not to videotape it.
The weird thing though is that like it's more common just even on a like I went to school
with a couple of people, not that like I knew personally or was friends with, but there
was people in my high school that like I saw in like my town's arrest records for like
some really sketchy underage shit.
And it's like, dude, why is this so fucking common?
But like it is like it's there's way more people that want to fuck kids than you think
there is.
And it's just creepy.
Like what in their fucking head is different from a normal person?
It's like, oh, like, damn, that fucking I'm not going to say you're going to soundbite
these things.
I'm going to look like a fucking asshole.
Yeah.
I understand.
Well, if I ever ran for a public office, they would have a field day.
I mean, we're talking about the things that need to be talked about, really.
I mean, you know, our culture and I'm not talking about kids.
I'm talking about like 16 year old girls like Britney Spears and hit me baby one more time
when she's dancing in the school girl office.
She was 16 in that video.
What?
That's crazy.
16.
Dude, that's fucking insane.
Britney Spears, when she at the peak, when she first came out, she was 16.
Now 20 years ago, that shit was normal, dude.
Yeah, it was.
So our society has changed in 20 years.
So like people are saying, oh, like Prince Andrew was having sex with a child.
It's like, dude, she's 17.
Like, yeah, that's disgusting, but she's also not really like, oh, yeah.
I was watching National Lampoon's European Vacation, which is a movie that was made in
the 80s, you know, with Chevy Chase.
And there was a joke in there where they were on a game show and the game show host just
starts like goes up to the and he starts like making out with a wife and he like kisses
the wife and he like like kisses her.
He's like being all sexual with her and then goes up to like the 14 year old girl.
He does it to her too.
And he just starts making out with her.
And that was like a joke that was normal in the in the 80s.
It's almost like every every two decades, you can add two years to how old the person
has to be for it to be OK.
Yeah.
It's like you go back to this.
You go back to like the fucking 40s and it's like, we have can't.
Why do you remember?
I watched.
It gets at least we're going in the right direction.
But I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, I was going to say it's like my girlfriend's favorite movie is Greece.
I had never seen it throughout my childhood.
Say what you will about that.
But like I watch it with her last year when we're on vacation.
I'm like, this movie is horrible.
I'm like, this is like this is John Travolta trying to commit sexual assault for an entire
movie and getting away with it because his haircut.
Well, no, good.
But like he literally fucking climbs like on her in the fucking car at the one point
in the movie.
And she's like, stop, get off.
Like, what are you doing?
And then the moral of the story for the fucking movie is like, he's all sad that that happened.
Like you don't get me wrong.
You didn't like fucking.
Raper.
Yeah.
Let's let's stop avoiding the elephant in the room.
We're going to say that he did not rape her.
But.
But it was a sexual battery.
Yes.
Yes, it would have been sexual battery for her.
Like Biff in Back to the Future when he's.
Yep.
He's messing around with Marty's mom.
But then the message of Greece, though, was that after that chick fucking like Sandy's
like, oh, wow, like I just got like sexually fucking battered by that man.
Right after that, she turns into like the fucking greaser chick and buys a leather jacket
and changes herself to be like him so that she can get him back.
It was like, look, I get it's your favorite movie.
You have like a child, like nostalgia associated with this.
But like coming in, watching this like right now in twenty twenty two at the time, I think
it's like this is fucking awful.
Like it's just like from all levels, like this is a creep who shot for this girl who
didn't want him.
And he was way too pushy.
And then at the end, the moral of the story is the woman changed herself to be like her
assailant and then they walk off into the sunset together.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
But that's the plot of the movie, though.
And I was like, look, I get it from a musical perspective and like a theme like a I don't
know, like he gives that greaser aesthetic like it's that classic movie.
But outside of it, dude, you put that movie under a microscope.
It's real bad.
There's some shitty things going out.
So maybe I mean, she actually wanted it, but she was just playing hard to get.
And I thought the idea, you know, that's a line.
That seems like it would fit right into the movie.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like the one song where like, did she put up a fight?
That's in one of the songs.
Did she put up a fight to get kissed?
Like, oh, well, and then he's just running away.
He's not answering anything.
John Travolta, which is so fitting that it's fucking John Travolta, too.
I don't know.
It's just fucking weird.
I watched it.
I'm like, I don't think I can watch that movie again.
She's like, really?
It's my favorite.
I mean, we should do duets at karaoke.
I'm like, you get the duets at karaoke, but we don't.
I don't like the movie.
It's fucking horrible.
But I was going to say before that, like how society has changed.
I was watching King of Queens.
Remember that show?
Yeah.
Which is not that old.
No.
Kevin James says to his friend, he's like, why can't you just get a hot 16 year old babysitter
like everybody else?
And I was like, what?
That was the dude late 90s.
Like damn.
Yeah.
That was like probably, I don't know, 98.
It's fucking crazy how times have changed.
Dude, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Things are different, man.
All right.
So today on the podcast, we're going to do a little segment that prices, right?
No, no, no, no.
Dan was talking about how we should fling bets on the day that Jimmy Carter is going
to die.
Oh shit.
So Jimmy Carter is going to die.
Definitely this year.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's a bold claim.
All right.
No, this is easy.
Like in the hospital right now or something.
No, no.
He's just, he's just really fucking old.
He's really old.
He will die this year and he is going to die.
I say April 23rd.
I can't believe that we're doing this.
This is funny.
April 23rd.
Jimmy Carter.
So James Carter, he was born in October 1924.
So he's 99 years old.
Ellie Mac, what day do you think the president is going to die?
Have we ever had a president that's made it to a hundred?
Wait, what day?
What, what, what was his birthday?
Go look it up.
We should ask Chad GBT.
Alexa, when's Jimmy Carter's birthday?
I thought you were going to ask.
He was going to die.
October 1st.
Holy shit.
He was wearing a, nevermind.
We don't need to give the relation to my birthday.
Hey Alexa, when's Jimmy Carter going to die?
As far as I know.
Jimmy Carter is alive.
He was born on October 1st, 1924 and is 89 years old.
Hey Alexa, take a guess as to when Jimmy Carter is going to die.
I think he's going.
Carter died of natural causes in his house in Thames, Georgia on February 6th, 2025 at
the age of 100.
Did you hear that?
What?
What did you just say?
Did you hear that?
No.
She said that Jimmy Carter died.
On February 6th, 2025 from natural causes at 100 years old.
Did you ask her to chat GBT it?
No, I just said take a guess.
Oh my God.
All right.
Alexa says February 6th, 2025.
You might need to rewind that to confirm.
No, can we do that?
Hold on.
Alexa, repeat the last thing you said.
Sorry, there is nothing to repeat.
Oh yeah.
Whatever.
What the fuck ever.
Alexa killed Jimmy Carter.
Alexa says February 6th, 2025.
We'll note that for the record.
Can we play back to see if it was like just by chance a different Carter of some sort?
No, it's 2025.
She said 2025.
Ali back.
Okay.
I would say July 30th, 2024.
I'm going all the way February 6th.
So he did.
What did you do?
Shut up.
You had your chance.
You put in your guess.
Let us put in our guesses.
So wait, he turns 100 October 1st of this year.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to guess October 10th of 2025.
I think he's going to die 10 days after nine days after he turns 100.
2025 or 2024.
2024.
Sorry.
I got 2024.
2024.
Bro, if he dies.
All right.
We'll find out what Tyler says next time.
If he dies on February 6th, 2025.
I think she said February 6th.
It was either 5th or 6th.
We'll have recorded proof of that.
That's right.
Will you be able to isolate that mic if it's covered?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Just so we can get a clean sound bite.
Yeah.
That was hilarious.
Hey, Alexa, give me your best guess as to when Nicki Minaj will die.
Nicki Minaj is still alive.
She is 41 years old.
She didn't do it that time.
Take a guess as to when you think she might die.
You need to say her name again.
She's not listening.
Hey, Alexa.
Take a guess as to when Nicki Minaj might die.
Nicki Minaj is still alive.
Okay.
41 years old.
We got it.
Wait, what did you say to prompt the Jimmy Carter question?
We'll have to check it again.
We got to see if we can replicate that because that was kind of nuts.
That was fucking creepy, dude.
That was actually kind of weird.
I told her to take a guess.
Give me your best guess or something like that.
Hey, Alexa, what day am I going to die?
Don't do that.
Let's not go with that.
She didn't answer, bro.
What the fuck?
Alexa, what day is Ali Matt going to die?
Muhammad Ali died on June 3rd, 2016.
Thank God.
That wasn't even close.
Thank God.
I think I might've survived that one.
All right.
Tune in when Jimmy Carter dies to find out who won the Jimmy Carter death day.
By the way, April 23rd this year, Alexa says February 6th.
By the way, I said October 10th of 2020.
Are we going to put some money on this?
We got to put some money on this.
I don't have cash on me.
At least 20 bucks.
I was going to say I'll throw a 20 in for it.
Yeah, I'll throw a 20.
All right.
Because that's a pretty good win.
That's a pretty good win odds.
I mean, what happens if Alexa wins?
We just fucking buy.
Alexa, she just takes Bitcoin.
I was just going to say we should get like $20.
So send you some Bitcoin.
I was going to say we just split it up between Amazon gift cards so that Jeff Bezos got them
for us.
I'm sure Alexa will love $100 in Bitcoin to do with what she pleases.
So I watched a Disney Pixar movie today that I was very fond of as a child and I find it
funny and I think it defined.
I think it's a pretty good guess as to where I live.
No, no, I was going to say WALL-E because it's that dystopian.
I've never seen it.
Bro, you need to.
I've heard such good things.
I think it's where like my beliefs of a lot of shit came from.
It was a lot of shit and I was like, God damn, it makes sense that this is my favorite Pixar
movie because it's a movie about this movie about that.
Humans trash the earth so fucking bad that we all hop on this spaceship and we call the
axiom and we leave and we leave while these robots that we leave behind essentially incinerate
all the garbage and then we go back and they send that.
So as it goes, this ship leaves and then we just never hear back about earth being not
toxic again.
So 700 years go by of just this spaceship.
We still talking away at fucking clearing up the well, it's almost like the fucking
autistic movie review here.
Not an officially sponsored one, but no fucking seven years go by.
So WALL-E is this.
He's the only one left on earth.
It's still trying to compact this trash and a little cubes that we incinerate all the
incinerators died.
He's essentially living a worthless life and then he finds like the last remaining plant
and then they send probes back.
Isn't this like it's a weird concept for the movie, but then that ship, the axiom sends
another ship back to earth every so often to make sure that there's no life on earth.
It's just waiting until the day comes.
So Eve, this other probe, who's like a character.
It's like WALL-E's girlfriend by the end of the movie, she fucking finds a plant that
WALL-E found and then takes back off.
But the autopilot was given a message.
Yeah, I'm going too quick here.
They get the plant back up to the axiom.
WALL-E hitches a ride because he doesn't want the love of his life and the only thing he's
ever saw move on earth other than this little cockroach buddy.
They fly back up to the axiom.
Oh, there's a cockroach that's still alive.
Yeah, the cockroach is his little buddy on earth.
He's the one cockroach and fucking WALL-E feeds him Twinkies to keep him alive.
That's hilarious because everybody says the only thing that survives like a nuclear disaster
is cockroaches and Twinkies.
So they find this plant and the captain's like, oh shit, let's go back to earth.
And the autopilot's like, nope, you're not doing that.
And then he's like, that's an order.
Like, let's take us back to earth.
And he shows this video of, oh, I left out a big part of this.
So at this point, it's kind of weird.
The axiom is owned by this company called Bynlarge, which is essentially like the Walmart
of the Pixar universe.
So every human that's alive lives on this ship that's essentially owned by Walmart.
And they were like the producer of all the fucking garbage that killed the planet for
the most part.
But the president of Bynlarge was the one who sent this message to all the people on
the fucking ship, by the way, are super fat and they ride around in these little hover
scooters.
Yeah.
And shit.
I've heard that.
Yeah.
It's like very dystopian, but fucking the autopilot was told to never return to earth,
but not inform the captain of it because earth was no longer habitable for life.
And the captain was like, but there is life.
Like I'm proving it to you.
Let me fucking turn the ship around.
And the autopilot was like, no, I was an order from him that overrides you.
So I can't let us go back.
Then they shut down the autopilot and make it back to earth.
And it's very happy ending.
But don't tell me, Jesus, I want to watch it.
You're a little late to the party here.
You got me all into it.
It's been out since 2008.
And then he says, then he says it has a happy ending.
It's like, well, I want to know.
Now there's no suspense.
It's a Pixar children's movie.
Now I'm going to watch the fucking movie the entire time knowing that the ending is going
to be fucking happy.
And this, this, you can watch any Disney Pixar movie and know it's going to have a happy
ending.
It's a children's movie.
Well, I don't know that I don't think that far in advance.
I don't even know what I'm having for dinner when I wake up.
Like I don't plan more than six hours.
Why do we need socialism?
I don't know.
I know that's why, because you know what we're having for dinner?
Dog.
The family dog, socialism, communism, fucking bark on the tree out back.
Right.
Good yesterday.
Right.
We're just going to like fucking chew on dandelions or either that, or we could go to the fucking
government supplied food rations and wait in line for 36 hours for a single slice of
bread that would work.
Well, there's not going to be food.
That's the problem.
And then a lot of people in this country have never been hungry and they're going to, for
the first time, they're going to be hungry.
And when people who have never been hungry get hungry, they get fucking angry.
Yeah, it's going to be bad.
It's what do you think this is going to happen, Dan?
Bro, I mean, sooner than we think.
So we have, we're on the precipice of one of the largest collapses of the economy and
U S history next to the great depression.
This is, this is what all the financial people say is that it's building and there's a bubble
and this bubble is going to pop and it's been building for a long time.
Some people predicted that it was coming in 2016, but because of this thing called quantitative
easing, it's, it's pushed it off.
So it's going to happen at some point, whether, whether it's so bad that people don't have
food.
I don't know, but it's very possible.
Very possible.
Worse than the great depression.
It's going to make the great depression look like the fucking, the great worst depression,
great, the greatest, the great, no, this is going to be the greatest depression.
It's going to be the least bad depression.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ali.
I couldn't think of which way to go with that.
It's going to be the lesser depression, the lesser of the two.
It's going to make it look like a fucking flat line.
It's like anxiety, like mild 14 year old teenager anxiety versus like suicidal.
It's going to be bad, dude.
I really just, I want to get myself to a point where I'm, I have my own food.
I can make my own food.
I kind of want to get like a compound going like a sex island compound.
Definitely not even close to a sex island.
What are you thinking, like Waco, Texas?
That would be cool.
Actually, didn't Alex Jones buy that compound?
Did he?
That's fucking wild.
Google that.
Google that right now, Casey.
If Alex Jones bought the, he has some connection to Waco, Texas.
Casey, what do you mind if I got that little?
Either he donated to their cause or.
Good man.
I don't see anything about Alex Jones buying that.
He buried it.
See who owns it.
Who owns it?
The globalists took it down.
We can't see it anymore.
He owns that property.
God damn it.
He probably lost it in the fucking trillion dollar lawsuit.
It's hard to find.
Of course it is.
Why would they make it easy?
I don't know.
Did Alex Jones go to Epstein's Island?
He either, no, unless he was like spying on us.
I was going to say he probably snuck in and see him in Navy seal gear on a dinghy on the
outside with binoculars trying to figure it out.
But yeah, I just, I want to get, I want to get calorically independent, meaning all my
food like a girl out myself.
I got chickens, I got eggs, you know, and I want to get energy independent.
So solar panels, battery banks, and just, I don't want to rely on banks.
Like the less you need to use money, I think coming up in the next few years, the better
off you're going to be.
Yeah.
Just get crypto bro.
Yeah.
Like dude, the thing is, is I really, I want to do that.
I want to do that so bad.
Just put your entire life savings into Bitcoin.
That sounds like a terrible idea.
Don't ever do that.
I mean, the thing is though, the US dollar is just backed by an idea.
It's a solid foundation of an idea, but that is problematic though.
It does not have a backing currency.
It's no longer gold.
It's not real.
No, it's not real.
It's a social construct.
That's all it is.
Right.
And then it's like, we all know we're getting fucked somehow, but it's like they've got
enough fluoride in the water that nobody really wants to think about it.
You know, they're just like, oh, this is the day.
And I like, this is the, get a fucking air horn in here.
This is the day.
And I like hearing from tell me about the fucking floor.
It just, it stops you from thinking on a higher level.
So closes that third eye, nice and nice and tight.
It's your third eye, but I also think that it's your higher judgment, right?
Or you, you know, you're getting fucked and you know, your money's not real.
And you know that there's something really bad coming, but nobody's really, Oh bro.
I mean, I feel that.
And I drink plenty of fluoride.
What's that?
I drink that.
I mean, I drink the fluoride and I think that, but what I was going to say though is that
it's, I want to do the same thing as you.
I want to, I want to be self-sufficient.
So like, and I'm not talking doomsday prepping.
It's a little bit more like, I'm not be over here by building a fucking fallout shelter
or anything, but I mean, it would be nice.
I'm never going to make enough money to make that happen.
But like a self-sufficient plot of land where you can live the rest of your life, not carefree
because shit, when shit hits the fan, you're still going to have to worry about stuff because
everybody's going to be hungry and want food and shit.
Yeah.
Especially if they know where you're at.
But like, how do you sell that to the wifey?
That's the, that's the, that's the tough part right there.
Here's what I think.
Cause these opinions are seen as schizophrenic.
No.
Oh yeah.
Of course they are because anybody who's moving away from using our money is definitely a
threat to society.
You know what I mean?
Like they don't want you moving away from currency.
Why would, what are you fucking weird?
You don't want to use currency?
All your neighbors use currency.
The cops use currency, the firefighters use currency, the judges use currency, the lawyers
use currency.
You're the only weird one.
All the doctors are using it.
The nurses are using it.
Everybody in society wants to use currency, but you're weird.
You don't want to use it.
Something wrong with you, man.
We got to throw you in a cell and feed you scraps of bread.
Like that's, that's how they think.
Like really like freedom would be to have a piece of property and not owe taxes on it,
not have to pay taxes on it, but there's no way to do that.
You are forced to use their currency.
And then, you know, back in the thirties, people who have, who had gold, Roosevelt made
them turn all their golden.
Yep.
It was a $10,000 fine or a, what was it?
Yeah.
$10,000 fine, which in thirties, the thirties was like, bro, that's a fucking shakedown
or or 10 years in jail or something like that.
So you all give us your gold and then we'll give you this paper money.
Okay.
So it's a fucking thing.
All right.
Only one of those things is real.
Yep.
And it's the gold.
Yep.
And they had to turn it in paper.
Money's not fucking real.
And then what the government did is they turned around as it.
And as soon as everybody turned in their gold, they, they declared like a doubt that gold
was double the value of, because they can control it at that point of what.
So okay.
So it say, say if you turned in gold, that was worth $400.
Right.
So everybody turns in their gold and then the government turns around and says, oh yeah,
to buy this amount of gold, it's actually $800.
Yep.
So they wanted to increase its value.
They devalued the currency that they just gave people.
But increased it for themselves.
Increased it for themselves.
So they're like, thank you.
Which in theory would bring stability to the economy, but you did just shake down your
entire fucking.
Yeah.
And people were okay with it because they thought they're like, oh, this is the government
wants what's best for us.
And now if you tried that shit today, people would say, go pound salt up your fucking ass.
Yeah.
But can you imagine an FBI agent sitting on it on your front porch, like shaking, trying
to be like, well, uh, you know, there's this new legislation and it'd be like, oh, there's
new legislation.
You who's going to take my gold.
Oh, you're going to take my gold.
I don't think so.
And I don't think there's laws anymore.
And I think you're going to want to get the fuck off my porch.
Yep.
Like that, that's what happened to that.
It would be like, no, you're not, you're not going to touch my fucking.
It's the same thing when it's like, oh, we're going to take your guns.
Like bro, not everybody.
I think most of, I think a lot of people that are like, oh, they try taking my guns off
fucking truth.
And it's like a lot of people that say that are just fucking blowing smoke, but there's
definitely people that like angry old men that have nothing to lose.
You're fucking Clint Eastwoods from grand Torino.
Right.
And there's fucking people that are going to say, get the fuck off my lawn.
They'll be like, well, this is a good road and this country's done.
And there's going to be enough of them that it's going to be like, all right, wow, we
just had a lot of cops get murdered.
They try that shit, dude.
It's like fucking alphabet boys are going to be dropping like fucking flies.
And you're going to have police chiefs and shit that would not want to do that stuff
too.
They say, fuck you.
I'm not enforcing this law.
Oh, you want to feed your family?
Yeah.
Well, you better enforce these fucking laws.
See, that's the other problem.
That's the other problem with money.
Okay.
You're not independent, right?
Calorically, monetarily, right?
You're hooked on somebody else's currency.
You're addicted to it.
The government is power over you.
Right.
And you're not energy independent.
You don't have your own water.
You don't have your own independence.
You're a slave, dude.
You got to do what they say.
Oh, well, you don't want your kids to starve, do you?
It's like you want your pension to disappear.
It's like, bro, they just, they've got, they got you by the fucking nuts.
Yep.
So you got to do some ugly shit.
That's the other reason that you want to be independent is because you don't want to be
a servant to somebody else's nefarious fucking ideas.
So I don't want to be put in a position where, where it's like, I got to do the bidding of
somebody just so I can fucking eat.
That's fucking evil.
So what's your plan?
Where would you, where would you suggest to move if you're going to do this?
Well, because you can't do this in New York, not, not feasible.
Why not?
Of course you can.
I mean, it's just, it takes so much money to get a sizable plot of land enough where
you would be able to be calorically sufficient and shit where if shit, but you got, you need
to kind of be off the grid enough so that people don't know you're there and doing this
that when shit hits the fan, they're not coming after you.
Right.
Cause you have two options.
You can either fucking build a fortress that keeps people out or you're far enough off
the grid that that fortress and the walls and shit aren't necessary because they don't
know you're there.
Well, so I don't, I don't think it's necessarily like that's a doomsday scenario, right?
What I just described.
Yeah.
Right.
But you want to have the ability to tell somebody that's trying to force you to do something
to go pound salt.
You want, you want, so you're not necessarily seeing the world's ending.
It's just saying that they say, fuck you.
We're going to find you.
And you say, all right, whatever.
You can take everything I got, but I'm still good.
That's worst case scenario is, you know, they're forcing you to do some Nazi style shit and
they have your kids starving being held over your head.
You know what I mean?
Like, do you, do you want your kids to starve?
Well, you, you're going to need fucking money to feed them.
You better do what we fucking say.
Right.
So that's like way, like hopefully it never gets to that point, but I mean, it has gotten
to that point plenty of times in human history, right?
But I'm just talking on an everyday basis.
Think of the stress it takes off.
If you know tomorrow, say, Hey, you know what?
I want to leave my job.
I want to go travel.
I want to go do other things.
And the only thing you're on the hook for is $800 a year for your property tax because
everything else is taken care of.
You've got your food needs are met.
You've got your, your energy needs are met.
You've got everything you need.
You got your water and your, your financially independent, right?
So you have other assets that are producing the things that you need.
Right.
So if you're producing food, say you have like a food company, you can produce food
for people in exchange for money.
Right.
That's real.
That is real.
And it doesn't matter how much like the price of the food goes up and down.
If you're still making it, not even that you can exchange, like say you, you have the fucking
untitled fucking peanut butter company.
Right.
So you can officially sponsored trade that you trade that peanut butter, which is really
fucking easy to make.
Right.
Trade that peanut butter for real goods.
So I need diesel fuel.
Okay.
Let me trade a pallet of peanut butter for 500 gallons of diesel fuel.
You know what I mean?
You're not using money.
There's no money in exchange.
So Dan, are you saying that we should start making peanut butter?
It's one possibility.
That's all I'm saying.
I could be, I don't know.
Merch item.
I don't know that peanut butter is title peanut butter.
I mean, it's really fucking easy to make.
It's really easy.
Like it's just peanuts and fucking butter.
And dude, that's a fucking in a time of like, like, uh, you know, economic depression, like
if it got to that level, that is an asset.
You would be an asset of the government because you're providing staple food.
They would need you.
So your needs are going to be taken care of because you're producing food for the people.
Right.
So what if we make the untitled compound and make this happen?
You will start off as a farm.
Yeah, I'll live there.
It'll kind of be cold.
We could get like 10 people, 10 people to chip in for a piece of property, like just
for this reason.
We'll have Tyler lead the mass.
You know, like a few of us.
Watch a couple of people to work for us.
A few acres with chickens, with a building on site, with a water tower, solar panels,
everything you need and you know, some trenches out back Doug for it, not for hookers.
I know what you're thinking for some storage containers that are buried underground with
living quarters.
So it hits the fan.
Where do the dead hookers go then?
They have like a well, a spot far enough away from the wall.
We don't want to.
Yeah, that's the first place they're going to look.
Now we'll bury those on somebody else's property.
We have like a false well in a real well.
I mean, there's better ways.
Yeah, I mean, I will cross that bridge when we get there.
It's weird, though, because we you what we just described there, most people would see
as a cult.
Like for sure.
Well, that bro, naturally, the government would want you over.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, because they would want to put that social stigma on you.
Even if we didn't have any beliefs whatsoever, other than like we want to be self-sufficient.
You still are looked at like those fucking wackos over there bought a compound.
It's basically homesteading.
Right.
Yeah, kind of.
But this is more like like setting up a system where you're self-sufficient completely, completely
self-sufficient.
What if the government for multiple means?
What if the government did what they've done in the past and said, we want you off your
land right now and you don't have a choice, but we'll give you money.
I mean, dude, if it gets to that point, all you better have is a gun.
I was going to say, so anyways, I started blasting.
Is that what we go to?
Yeah, that's it.
That's it, dude.
You got a fucking gun over your back and, you know, not just for you know, you'll go
down as a hero when people read that news article, they're going to they would back
you in that instance.
Yeah.
And the government's done stuff like that, dude.
They fuck was the one case I was reading.
This is fucking fucking CIA and the FBI killed this dude and his whole family because like
these allegations he had and he kind of lived off the grid.
He lived in a fucking cabin.
You got to know what I'm talking about, man.
And the CIA and the FBI gave out awards to their people for it, too, even though the
guy was the only target and it was off like this false claim.
I can't even remember.
Was this was this?
It was somewhat recent within the last at least within the last 20 years.
Is that the one where they had the fucking helicopters like watching the gunfight?
I can't remember, but I remember the way it started was that these guys were trying to
go in to kill the father.
Father had, I believe, a wife.
I mean, yeah, he had a wife, a son and then maybe a daughter.
And the daughter was the little kid.
I can't quite remember, but I remember.
So they send these guys in ghillie suits up to this dude's house, the FBI and I believe
his FBI and CIA along with like maybe local PD go to this dude's house.
And the son saw one of them and was just outside hunting or doing something outside just to
begin with.
And he saw one of the dudes in the ghillie suit and he shot and killed one of the FBI
guys that was on his land.
And that started this massive fucking shootout.
And at one point, I think like the wife was trying to get the husband back inside or something
after he had been shot and like wasn't like fatally or maybe he was fatally wounded, but
he was still alive at that point.
So the wife opened the front door for him and then she got shot and killed while he
went inside and then he barricaded the house.
I can't remember what you do in that situation.
What do you do?
Call 911.
No, you call 911.
What?
You. Oh, yeah.
If you're okay.
You think your local PD is going to come up and tell the FBI to fuck off?
No, no, no.
If you are in a shootout with the FBI, you dial 911.
So it is all recorded.
That's right.
And you say there's somebody outside.
I don't know who they are.
They just killed my son.
They're shooting at me.
Can you send the police?
Right.
And then they have to send the police.
Right.
So you look like a victim.
All right.
This actually happened to a guy.
He was in a standoff with the police and he called 911 and the negotiators were like,
fuck.
That was such a fucking power move, dude, because now it shifted the role to that, to
him being the aggressor to now he's the victim and they're the.
That's true.
It flips it right around.
So dude, I've even thought about this.
Like my buddy was telling me a story where he got this one.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to look into I'm still listening.
He got pulled over by a local cop.
I'm not going to say the municipality, but the guy tried to charge him with a DWI when
he had had a half a glass of wine, like seven hours before.
Right.
No breathalyzer, nothing.
Yeah.
And he goes, Hey dude, guess what?
If you think you're going to give me a DWI, we're going to get a blood draw right now
and find out that I absolutely have no alcohol in my system and you're going to look like
an asshole.
So he let him out of the handcuffs.
He's like, fuck, this guy knows what he's talking about.
Right.
Yeah.
Let him go.
So I've thought like, if I ever get fucked with like that, because that happens sometimes
dude, like I really, I don't drink.
Have you ever seen me drink here?
No.
Maybe I had one shot ever.
Right.
You've seen me drink here.
And I've been, oh yeah.
It's like, you know, if I get pulled over, I can say, honestly, no, I don't drink.
You know?
Cause really like I don't drink.
So I've thought like, if I ever got fucked with like that, I would just call 911 and
I would request the state police to the location.
Right.
Yeah.
And dude, what are they going to do?
Like if somebody is like acting unlawfully like that, cause dude, I've been field sobriety
checked like completely sober just because I really can.
Completely sober dude.
Like not even like, not even a drink within like days, like not, not even remotely, like
not even a doubt.
Yeah.
And they've done a field sobriety roadside check on me.
What were you doing to prompt that?
You don't mind me asking.
I was the DD actually.
So he might've smelled alcohol in the car.
Oh, so he was trying to ding you.
Right.
Cause they, all the girls that I was driving around smelled like alcohol, but.
Oh damn.
Damn.
What were you doing?
I was like, yeah, you know, I just got a lot of ladies I drive around.
Right.
Dan at fucking one o'clock in the morning, driving around a car of drunk girls.
That's what I do on my weekends.
But yeah.
So side business.
So it's like, dude, you request the state police there.
They got to bring, they, they have to bring the state police there.
Yeah.
Because if they don't, if they say, no, they're, we're not going to send them.
Okay.
So they just denied like basically like a higher level of law enforcement from getting
involved.
And then if there's really nothing, he's going to look like an asshole.
The cop that's trying to pull some shit.
That's true.
Say, I just want somebody here who has like a four year degree.
You know, that's basically what you're going to get if you ask for the state police.
Cause that's basically, I mean, I think the requirement is like a two year, but most of
them they all have like four.
Yeah.
It is competitive to get in there.
Right.
So.
So what I was talking about was the Ruby Ridge incident that was, so I guess it was 92, but
it started when, so he was, he failed to appear in court for a federal firearms charge.
And then the marshals came out and the son shot and killed a marshal.
And it's began this standoff.
This is fucking barely America.
It's almost, it was almost Canada's problem.
I know.
It's so, it's so North and Idaho.
It's like.
I'm surprised you haven't seen that before though.
Ruby Ridge.
Like look at, look at how far that is.
Yeah.
But the fucking survey.
Well, it sounds like actually the aggressor might've fucking been a, so during a surveillance
operation officer art Roderick shot Weaver's dog when it ran at them and then pointed his
rifle at Weaver's armed son, Sammy.
Sammy tried to fire back in the direction of the shots and then Sammy was shot and killed
by the team.
So they shot, so they fucking shot his dog.
We use the dog found these officers that were wearing ghillie suits.
And then the son tried to, cause I'm sure they, I'm based off of these pictures.
I'm assuming they fucking knew that they were under surveillance because that they had to
have cut.
Yeah.
They're looking right at it in that picture.
So that looks like a, so yeah.
So Sammy Weaver's on the right.
So that's the son that got killed after the dog was shot.
It sounds like the first shots were fired by, yeah.
Yeah.
The officer shot first.
Damn.
I would call the police.
Yeah.
That's, that would be my go-to move.
That's like when you're, when you're in EMC class and they're like, what are you doing?
You're like, call 911.
So yeah, this Randy Weaver was the guy who was an American survivalist and self-proclaimed
white separatist.
But he was a central actor in the 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff with federal agents at his
cabin near Naples, Idaho, during which his wife and son were killed.
Weaver was charged with murder, conspiracy, and assault, as well as other crimes.
He was acquitted of most of the charges, but was convicted of failing to appear in court
on previous weapons charge and sentenced to 18 months in prison.
His family eventually received a total of $3.1 million in compensation for the killing
of his wife and son by federal agents.
Wow.
Damn.
That's poetic justice.
Yeah.
He gets 3.1, but again, the FBI awarded their agents for what happened.
That's just called, that's what we call an internal circle.
Jerk.
That's a good old boy.
It's just, there's just people sitting around jerking.
Oh, great job.
You killed that 14 year old.
Great guy.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Untitled circle jerk.
Yeah.
Next time on, definitely not.
That's how we make the peanut butter.
Oh God.
Secret ingredient.
I think we got a little echo here.
All right.
I think we do.
Hold up.
It's a smart way to do it.
All right.
We're back.
So let me tell you guys about something spooky.
Okay.
Oh shit.
We got spooky music here.
So you guys ever seen the movie The Conjuring?
Yes.
No.
Classic, classic horror movie about the family.
There was a family in Rhode Island that moved into this house back in the seventies and
they started to experience some paranormal phenomenon in their house where things would
like move by themselves and like the girls would be like touched.
So they had like a family with a bunch of girls in it.
And like the movies about that shit, but the actual house is in Rhode Island.
And I was watching a ghost adventures episode about that where they were investigating the
house.
So Casey, can you go a little bit more in depth with what happened at the Conjuring?
Well, maybe you can help me out Ali Mac.
So I can't remember exactly what it was and you're going to have to fact check myself
here.
So here's one of the things.
So they call.
I'll give the story of it afterwards.
Well, this is part of the story.
So they called Ed and Lorraine Warren, which are these paranormal investigators back in
the day that would investigate like these super haunted houses and try to help people.
They were like Lorraine was like a what do you call medium psychic and her husband and
people would accuse them of like trying to benefit off people's like people's the hauntings
and shit in a way that was like immoral.
But so they said they were interviewing.
Zach was interviewing her daughter and the daughter of the house at the time.
And she was like, oh yeah, after Ed and Lorraine Warren came, everything got worse.
Like they were trying to help, but everything just got like 100 times worse.
And basically her mother got possessed by a demon and the demon took over her body.
And that's like what the movie is about.
And another thing she said was like, oh, when I was a little girl, I just went up to my
mother and said, there are seven dead soldiers in the walls.
It was like so.
So the house is actually built in the seventeen hundreds.
So there's been American Revolution battles, civil war battles, shit like that happened
there.
So that that could be possible.
So Ali Mech, tell us more about the paranormal events.
Casey, you keep going for about 30 seconds here.
I'm trying to.
So I'm fact checking the real story versus the movie because I don't want to give any
false info here, but I don't want to say anything quite yet.
So by my point, what are you going to say?
No, no, no.
Because the real conjuring house is in Rhode Island, like on the border of Massachusetts,
and it's about like two hours away from here.
And they actually I mean, they have like like it's open to the public where they can have
tours.
They have like tours and shit.
But they also have like you can get locked down overnight and they just give you access
to the entire house overnight for a fee, obviously.
It's called like the content creators, something experience where you like have access to it
just by yourself for the night for one night.
I think that would be cool.
I would.
You know what I would do to get through that?
I would just like pop a fucking Xanax or something.
Yeah, I would do something.
No, I'd do something.
So I'd be just I would pass out and fall asleep.
No, not.
Yeah, that'd be too fucking.
My mind would just like race the entire night.
So they were doing this other thing on this other conjuring house on this other series
on YouTube where they had a psychic and they would say they would have a way to communicate
with the spirits, kind of like a Ouija board.
But they would just say like ABCDEFG and just go through the alphabet.
And every time it got to the letter they wanted to stop on, you would hear like two knocks
on the fucking walls and it would spell out like some word and they kept doing it and
they actually like receive like intelligent responses.
No way.
No, they did.
And they actually like spelled out words.
This was on like where do you see this?
This was on that that Sam and Kobe show that Megan watches.
It's like a paranormal investigator thing on YouTube.
But I mean, how do you fucking know that it's real?
I mean, no way to prove, I guess, that it's real.
I mean, all the reviews I've read that like people investigating the conjuring house were
like, wow, like the shit is actually happening.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It sounds to me like maybe they had a radon problem.
So maybe they should check that out.
So I've done my research here.
So the suspected witch spirit that was in the house.
Oh, right.
There was like a witch.
Yeah.
So it was and her name was Bathsheba Sherman.
Yeah.
She like murdered a baby.
Yeah, because the homestead was it.
There was eight generations of the family that lived here.
And apparently some of those people really never left the property because they were
very self-sufficient.
Eighteen hundred society kind of deal.
They lived on 200 acres.
It's not a small property, but sounds like.
So there's no hard evidence to support that that chick was a witch.
There is only local legend and folklore.
An infant mysteriously died in her care, though, when the baby was examined.
It was determined that the mortal wound was caused by a large sewing needle that had been
impaled at the base of the child's skull.
Though the townspeople believe that Bathsheba sacrificed the infant as an offering to the
devil due to insufficient evidence, a court found that she was innocent of any wrongdoing.
Despite her name being cleared legally, the public was not convinced.
So people thought she was the problem.
But so they the Perron family or Perron, I don't know how you pronounce it.
P E R R O N live there.
They the connection to the spirit of Bathsheba came from Ed and Lorraine Warren.
They they brought that up and they're like, we think that this is what's causing your
problems because the first instance sounds like the the wife that lived in the house,
Carolyn Perron or the mother, sorry, said that she had been lying on the sofa and all
of a sudden felt a piercing type of pain in her calf.
And then her muscle began to spasm.
But upon it sounds like a charley oars.
But upon examination, she noticed a puddle of blood at the point of impact.
She had checked for bees or anything else that could have been that could have caused
the puncture in her leg, but found nothing in her daughter's book.
Andrea Perron describes the wound as a perfectly concentric circle as if a large sewing needle
had impaled her skin.
Oh, that was written by the daughter.
But yeah, they so essentially Ed and Lorraine Warren did all this research and they found
out that, oh, shit, this Bathsheba chick used to live here in the eighteen hundreds and
she's a suspected witch and probably killed this infant with a sewing needle to the back
of the head.
Like we're kind of thinking that's just causing the problems here, especially based off the
wound that she got.
So that's the story.
And there's like a lot of other.
Yeah, they yeah, the like the seven dead soldiers in the walls.
But yeah, I'll look I'll look.
I bet you that's further down here.
But they did say that it says, where is it?
How many people died in the farmhouse property?
Eight generations of one extended family lived and died in that house prior to our arrival,
said Andrea Perron, adding some of them never left the black book of Burrillville.
Sorry, Burrillville, the town's former public records book, reveals that over the course
of its existence, the property had been host to two suicides by hanging one suicide by
poison, the rape and murder of 11 year old Prudence Arnold by a farmhand, two drownings
and the passing of four men who froze to death in addition to other tragic losses of life.
Damn, sounds excessive.
We should go investigate the conjuring house.
We should.
That's nuts.
They don't even talk about that shit in the movie.
But yeah, that's a I mean, fucking hell.
I mean, I know it's eight generations, but that's a lot of fucking crazy shit that happened
eight generations on one fucking plot of land.
I'm down.
Let's do it this summer.
I'm sure Tyler would be be down to do some ghost hunting too.
Can I continue with the the spooky stuff?
Because there was something that I had the other day, actually.
One of my last shifts are actually the last shift to my previous employer.
So I didn't know.
But out there, there's a pretty paranormal story.
There's a paranormal grave site actually out in the I'll just say it knocks.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The one that you got to bring in.
It's like it's like caged off.
Yeah, it's not.
So it's called.
Yeah.
The burial grounds you can't even find on Google Maps.
It's kind of off a beaten path a little bit.
It's off of them.
I can't remember the exact road.
I think it's Brat Hollow.
I'm not sure.
But it's off of that road, which is not like a main road by any use of the word.
But I don't know if she's a witch or not, but because it was way after like the witch
scare and like your Salem witch trials there.
This is way after that.
But it was like this 21 year old that moved from Germany, met somebody on the boat over
here.
They got married, moved to this house.
And then actually, which is pretty fucking creepy, the day after Christmas, she was found
or at least this is bit.
There's no public record that specifically says this, but there is a lot of suspicion
and based off the stories that have been passed down, which are circumstantial.
But she died in a pond like swimming, drowned in a pond the day after Christmas.
So it's fucking cold.
Why the fuck are you swimming out there?
But she's a 21 year old female.
So she after that, the folklore had started that she was a suspected witch.
And it's kind of weird because in this burial ground, it's all just normal headstones and
stuff.
But when she was buried, I'll find a picture and show it to you guys.
They put up a fence specifically just around her grave.
And that happened pretty frequently in the US to my knowledge during the Salem witch
trials as a way to bar that spirit from leaving the ground.
Also her gravestone was found just to randomly at one point be facing the opposite direction
of all of the other graves, which is kind of fucking creepy because when it was placed,
her grave was faced facing the road just like everybody else's.
But then all of a sudden, because the people maintain this cemetery, obviously they came
back and the fucking headstones facing the other way.
They don't know if it was somebody vandalized it and tried to fix it or maybe it fell over
on its own and they put it back.
But to my I haven't visited it yet.
I've been trying to track it down.
I believe I know where the grave site is now.
But if you look online, it gives like three or four different sites.
But one of my coworkers has been there before.
Yeah.
And they were trying to find it on the way back after we see the version I heard of the
story is like, like she had gotten out of the grave.
Really?
Yeah.
And that's why they put the fence up so she couldn't keep getting out.
Like it was a recurrent thing.
That's wild.
I did not hear that.
That's why I heard from from Wally.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Cool.
We should definitely go ghost hunting.
We got to do some ghost hunts this summer or when it gets warm.
Yeah.
So that is a picture from the 80s of the grave that's around that.
Like just look at how you're that little pitchfork fucking thing.
I mean, that's just like, like if you wanted to make it look creepy.
Yeah.
But none of the other graves in that cemetery have anything like that.
It's just normal headstones.
Ava Messer was her name.
E.V.A.M.E.S.S.E.R.
But she also went by a couple like I think it's Bokal.
Bokal is the other name.
I believe Messer is her maiden name.
I think Bokal.
No.
Oh, sorry.
Her maiden name was Bokal.
Messer was her married name.
I find most cemeteries to be quite peaceful places.
I do too.
Really like I don't get at least the like last cemetery I went to, there's like nothing
but good vibes, honestly.
Yeah.
I have to find my grandfather's grave and just a lot of good vibes.
I fell asleep in one one time.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, that was a pretty, I don't know if I ever told that story on the podcast, but that
one was funny.
You definitely did.
I definitely told that about you too.
Dude, that had to be the wildest thing for that old lady that was walking by when I came
to, just leaned up against the back of a fucking headstone, just walking her dog at eight o'clock
in the morning.
She sees this drunk fucking kid.
And I remember I said good morning to her and she like set it back with like the meanest,
sneeriest side eye a person could humanly have, which is completely, which is completely
fucking justified on her end.
It's not like I meant to fall asleep out there.
I moved out here because there's no homeless people.
I don't know.
There's no homeless people sleeping in the cemetery where I walk my dog.
You're such an ass.
I would just avoid eye contact.
Smells like booze and marijuana.
It's disgusting.
The thing was is that I wasn't, I remember I wasn't even that, that fucked up.
It's just that I had gotten into this idea where I was like, I was like, oh, we're playing
hide and seek with my buddies.
They're going to come and find me.
They saw me book off into the cemetery, but they were too big a pussies to come into the
cemetery.
And then I thought I'm like, surely if I stay out here long enough, somebody's going to
come for me.
And they were just like, oh, he'll come back home.
I woke up in the morning.
I got texts from like 10 people like, Hey man, worried about you.
Where are you?
I'm like, really?
You guys knew where the fuck I was.
I was in the fucking cemetery.
It was no fucking mystery there.
At that point it's, it's your retarded.
I know.
No, I agree.
But it's just like, it's not, there was no fucking mystery of where I was.
Like I booked it into the cemetery and I wasn't seen for the rest of the night.
And there wasn't that much cause for concern because it's a fucking maniac at that point
in my life.
But I feel like if I did that shit now, it would be a problem.
There would be like missing persons reports filed.
I mean, not by you, you'd know it was par for the course.
Not by me.
Oh shit.
All right, let's take a break and we'll be back.
Oh shit boy.
Welcome back to Untitled Podcast.
Dan, you're going to win this one easy.
I'm back.
Have you smoked enough?
I think maybe a little bit too much.
You want to fucking play boy?
This one's going to be a struggle, but we're going to try.
Welcome back to Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
Excuse me, man.
Here, give me one so it's easy for Casey.
You know how they name it?
So it's one and two.
That's two I think.
Ellie Mac hasn't realized yet that this is Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
Oh fuck.
Oh is it?
It is.
Oh shit, no.
Fuck.
This is going to be bad.
My name's Regis Philvin, Alex McDonald, welcome back to the show.
Ellie Mac, you've lost your partner.
Dan, you guys can play together.
Okay, okay.
It's over for us yet.
Holy shit.
Oh man.
Ellie Mac, it's been a while since you've played for one million dollars.
I only won it like truly once.
We're like Simon's twins.
We got this.
Today, you're going to have to, well, there is a good prize.
Here's something that's going to piss Tyler off, all right?
There is a good prize for today.
It's not money.
It is an advantage in the next Jeopardy game.
Oh shit.
Oh my God.
The two of you could win if you win one million dollars.
All right, Ellie Mac.
So wait, what is the advantage?
What is the advantage?
Oh, fucking win a million dollars.
You'll find out.
So I mean, you're going to have to eat a ghost pepper if you're wrong, unfortunately.
We'll see.
I mean, so like the first round, you can do a smelling salt and then you'll have to eat
a pepper after that.
You got four lifelines.
You got 50-50, phone a friend, hint from the host and a double dip.
All right, let's play fucking millionaire.
Dan eats a ghost pepper with me.
If we get too wrong, I'll do it.
I'm not eating a ghost pepper.
All right, well then neither am I.
Yeah, Dan's not going to be eating a ghost pepper.
Yeah, then neither am I.
We'll see.
All right, we're going for a hundred dollars.
This modern company was named after an American inventor who made contributions to the science
of electricity.
A. Microsoft B. Google C. Tesla D. Sony.
Are we locking in Tesla for that one?
All right, Tesla it is.
Correct.
Didn't even let him finish the question.
Two hundred dollars.
How many white keys are in an octave on a piano?
This was a question already.
Oh, it was not.
Yeah, it was.
No, I said how many?
The answer was 12.
Okay, A5, B6, C8, D12.
All right, we're going D12.
I'm okay with D12 because I don't fucking know that.
Final answer.
I guess.
Yeah, sure.
All right.
Oh, how many white keys are in an octave on a piano?
There'll be eight.
Oh, eight.
Fuck.
Yeah, I should have thought about that before I just blasted it.
Yeah, it does make sense.
Fuck.
Yeah, we didn't really think about that.
I was going to tell you it wasn't the same question, but I was like, fuck it.
All right.
Sorry about that.
Oh, it's in your eyes too.
Wow.
Three hundred dollars.
It's powerful.
If you roll a 20 sided dice twice, what's the point?
That you roll a seven both times a one and 20 B one and 40 C one and 200 D one and 400.
I want to say it's one that 40.
Well, yeah, because if you roll it twice, it's 40.
So it's out 40 possible outcomes.
So wait, say it again.
If you roll a 20 sided dice twice, what's the chance that you roll a seven both times?
One and 20, one and 40, one and 200, one and 400.
I mean, 40 makes sense, but it almost makes me I'm rethinking like the probability math.
Say the options again.
A one of 20 B one and 40 C one and 200 D one and 40.
A one of 20 B one and 40 C one and 200 D one and 400.
Why would it be one and one and 40?
This would be 40 possible outcomes.
It's two rolls.
Wait, hold on a second.
Say the question one more time.
If you roll it, you roll a 20 sided die twice.
All right.
So it's a one and 20.
What if you roll it once?
What's the chance you roll a seven both times?
It should be like the...
I feel so fucking stupid right now.
Well, what's the chance you roll it once?
One and 20.
So it's not one and 20.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to help you out.
All right.
Say the options again besides the first two.
Are there two options?
One and 200, one and 400.
I don't fucking know.
You got four lifelines.
You got a 20 sided dice so we can try.
You got 50-50, phone a friend, hit from the post, and double dip.
Hold on a sec, dude.
Because we should be able to get something reasonable here.
So one and 40.
So to roll...
See, I would think it would be...
No.
Because I was going to say I would think it would be two and 40,
but that would reduce to one and 20.
Which is the same thing.
And he said one and 20 is not the answer.
Yeah.
So one and 20 is the same as two and...
Oh, wait.
One and 40.
Would that make sense?
One and 40?
Would that even make sense?
I don't know.
It's just the way I see it.
If you roll a die once, you have 20 possible outcomes there.
How many roll it twice?
How many outcomes do you have if you roll it twice?
There's a potential for 40 outcomes.
Ah, shit.
I always multiply.
Let's just go with B.
I'm just smelling something.
No, I don't think it's right.
You don't think it's right?
No.
I seem to remember sixth grade math.
Going back to this, there's some multiplication involved.
Yeah.
I would think that too.
I just can't fucking remember.
I just had a flashback to a math book.
I know you know it, Dan, and I feel retarded.
So if there's some multiplication involved...
You're trying to baby me through this, buddy.
I might be too high.
No, no, no, no.
Dude, I'm just saying.
I'm having a flashback to sixth grade math.
No, like 20 times 20 or something.
And there was some multiplication involved.
And I don't think it's as easy as just doubling it.
No, you're right.
I agree with you.
I don't know what you'd be multiplying it by though.
I know it's not 40 anymore.
Like 120.
Fuck it.
No, no, no, no.
No, it's...
One in 20, one in 40, one in 200, one in 400.
One in 200, 400, whatever.
200.
Makes sense, right?
I don't fucking know.
So...
I think it's...
I think...
Are you fucking with me?
Do you know it?
No, no, no, no.
I feel like I'm overcomplicating this.
Because if you fucking did it once...
You roll it once.
That's 20, right?
Say it was a six-sided dice.
Say it was a six-sided die.
Right?
Why does that make it easier?
I mean, no, it'd be 400.
It'd be 400.
Final answer?
Yeah.
I don't know.
What's your answer, Dan?
I'm getting...
Dude, it has to be.
You fucking...
It's 20 times...
It's either the 401 or the 41.
It's 20 times 20.
Because remember...
No, remember in sixth grade math, when you do that,
and this would be like...
Wouldn't that be like the 20 exclamation mark thing?
You know what I'm talking about?
Because it's like another set of possible outcomes.
So you multiply it by itself.
Maybe.
There's something there, but it's...
I remember it was like the exclamation point.
It's like that part of my brain, there's like a little math,
and there's a little bit of PlayStation 1 games.
Dude, I'm doomed.
Like, that guy, it got overwritten by like Spyro.
Are you okay with 400 as an answer?
I think that that's what I got.
Yeah, let's just do it, and we'll smell the smelling salt.
But does that even make sense?
I don't know!
It doesn't even make sense.
Does 1 in 40 even make sense?
What kind of sense, because it would be...
That was my god answer the first time.
Wait, this is what in 200?
What?
No, dude, you gotta think about that.
400?
There's gotta be so many outcomes, though.
Because...
Is 1 in 200 or 1 in 400?
Dude, you have 20 options off of that first 20 to go to.
You know what I'm saying?
Are you sure?
Are you sure, though?
Yeah, because there would be 20 possible outcomes for the 1,
20 possible outcomes for the 2, 20 possible outcomes for the 3.
All right, before we pickle and say the question one more time,
I want to make sure I'm not missing anything here.
If you roll a 20-sided die twice, what's the chance you'd roll a 7 both times?
So you would do...
1 in 20.
Yeah, yeah, because if you're rolling it twice, it's 20 times 20.
All right, fine, let's just go with it.
Wait, no, hold up, hold up.
20 times 20 is 400, right?
Yeah.
Okay, we're gonna fuck that.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with that one.
I think it's 400.
Final answer?
Yeah.
I'm actually kind of confident that that is 400.
God damn.
Wow, that's terrible.
Nice.
You weren't fucking with me.
No, I wasn't.
We're not doing that.
I knew what it was like.
Damn, that was like a throwback to like sixth grade math.
Is it the exclamation mark thing?
Is that what it is?
So like if you were to roll it...
20?
Yeah, if you were to roll that dice a second...
It's not a factorial, no, it's just 1 in...
Oh, yeah, that's a dice.
1 in...
1 over 20 times 1 over 20 is 1 over 400.
Yeah, so if you rolled it a third time, you would multiply that by 20 again.
I'm glad we didn't go with the fourth one.
It would be 20 times 20 times 20 if you rolled it a third time.
Okay, good.
I do remember that correctly.
All right.
500.
$500.
Okay.
At the 2016 presidential debate, when asked to say something they liked about the other
candidate, Hillary Clinton admired Donald Trump's A, honesty, B, determination, C, business,
D, children.
It's not his honesty.
Or would it be a trick answer and it would be honesty?
I don't fucking know.
Determination, maybe?
I don't know, what would be a compliment but a stab at the same time?
Not children.
I like your fucking children.
That's not it.
Because that would allude to her eating children under a pizza shop in D.C.
So children is off, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
I do.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't think you can call him honest because you don't want to call a political opponent
honest.
No.
Right?
That's like...
That's bad.
No.
Yeah, your team's going to scream at you when you get in the fucking locker room after that.
But it's not children, it's not honesty.
Determination and business is what we're down to.
It would be such a fucking...
Determination is also...
Like, I can see how you could use that words as an insult, but also it seems like such
a Clinton thing to say about business.
She admires his business?
Well, the other question was, uh, Hillary Clinton admired Donald Trump's honesty, determination, business, children.
I'm feeling it, boo.
It would have to be business, right?
I'm torn between determination and business.
Because I could see how she would say business to be like, oh, you're a great business man, but you're fucking horrible as a politician.
He's really determined. I admire his determination. Determination.
Well, she's like, I admire your determination, but actually you're wrong because blah, blah, blah. I could see her saying something like that in a debate.
Well, the only thing he's good at is his business. So that's obvious to everybody.
Yeah.
We went so long and he just stopped.
We did that last time twice.
Right? So, I mean, that's, that is what he is known for is his business.
That's why that's my gut answer on it.
Right. Yeah. I'm going to go with business.
Oh, final answer?
Yeah.
If we just pick that one off by that thought process, I'm going to flip the fuck out.
Oh.
Oh, we lost.
Fuck!
Damn it.
That'd be his children.
He probably could have used the life-line there.
What? Of course she would bring it slip and say she likes his children.
Yeah, just like her fucking husband.
She eats children at her husband's pizza shops in D.C.
I should have known. God fucking damn it.
We shouldn't have. That's such a fucking Clinton family thing.
They love those kids.
I hit that smelling spot.
God damn it. I was hoping you'd forget.
I'm not taking that one.
All right.
I don't deserve to be in that much pain.
Going for a thousand dollars.
Wow. Whole grand.
Which of these states does not touch the Gulf of Mexico?
A. Alabama. B. Texas. C. Mississippi. D. Georgia.
It's going to be Georgia.
I'll take your word for it. Oh yeah, Georgia.
Alabama because Mississippi that the mouth of the Mississippi goes into the Gulf of Mexico.
Alabama's down there.
I don't know geography.
Georgia's on the East Coast. It's in between the...
It's under the Carolinas.
It's under South Carolina. So it's definitely not in the Gulf of Mexico. It's Georgia.
Final answer.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
One thousand dollars.
I was going to say that sounded a little bit more like Inlet than the rest.
All right.
Going for two thousand dollars.
Before being moved due to tax costs, the original location planned for the series Breaking Bad to take place in was...
A. Los Angeles.
I thought it was Las Vegas.
B. Las Vegas. C. Phoenix. D. San Diego.
Oh shit.
Phoenix. My gut was Las Vegas, but Phoenix is also like...
I can see how it would be a Las Vegas story though.
Like I can see how that would...
No, no, because it takes place in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Yeah. Yep.
That's what I'm saying. It's kind of like the same desert-y...
So Phoenix is really similar to that.
Yeah, but why would they... So they went to Albuquerque because of budget?
Yeah.
So I just don't see why they wouldn't have just gone to Phoenix anyways.
If they're trying to cut budget, Phoenix isn't that big time.
They probably could have done it there if they did it in Albuquerque.
Dude, before the question like...
Like you said Vegas.
My gut was Vegas.
That seems to make sense to me because that would require a bigger budget.
You're on the fucking strip there.
There would have to be scenes that were there.
Like you know...
But my gut also said 12 white keys.
Yeah, you're right.
We should probably use a fucking lifeline on this one.
Yeah, let's use a lifeline.
What do we want to use though?
50-50.
That's like the best one though.
It could fuck us though.
Yeah.
It could fuck us hard.
Yeah, if we get fucking Phoenix and Las Vegas as the two answers.
Right.
If that's the case then...
The only thing that makes me think it's Vegas is just budget.
I mean because LA is in there though too.
Wait, what was the fourth?
Is Phoenix...
San Diego.
Definitely not San Diego.
Nah, I couldn't see it being San Diego.
I mean I could but just less than the others.
Okay, so here's the other thing.
Well no, Nevada does have a Mexican border, right?
It's got the straight edge on the bottom.
That's a Mexican border, right?
I thought Nevada...
No.
Nevada I think is more just like it's above.
Nevada is the one that has the weird slant bottom, I think.
It's like kind of east of Cali.
Yeah, California, the bottom of California touches Mexico.
So it has to be a place that has cartels.
Phoenix definitely has cartels, right?
Oh shit, bro!
That's fucking smart.
That makes sense because why the fuck?
So Nevada is not really known for cartel activity.
No, no it's...
I don't think that they're on the border.
I think you might be right with Phoenix.
Damn.
You're swaying me here.
I would say we gotta use the 50-50 and hope that we drop Phoenix or Las Vegas.
Well, you know...
What if...
If you feel sure about this, I'm all for it.
Yeah.
Hey Alexa!
God damn it, Alexa stop!
Alright, we won't ask her.
She lit up though.
Let's just go with Phoenix.
Are you good with that?
I'm okay with it. Yeah, because that would make sense for the cartels.
Final answer?
Yeah, whatever.
Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Oh damn it!
That'd be Los Angeles.
Fuck!
You didn't got it right anyway.
And that's Cali too! Why did we just fucking gloss over that? That's so Cal.
This isn't that strong. Am I getting used to this?
I think so. I think you're immune to it.
I didn't do anything.
I always just take a fucking massive inch of that shit in my lung.
This game's fucking hard!
I know, this one is hard because you guys are working together.
God damn it.
Yeah, this one's not fucking easy.
That's like a trivia. That's like a...
Guy watched Breaking Bad. I didn't know that about its budget.
Fucking Christ.
$4,000.
It's the last fucking cookie I can eat. I'm eating these things like chips over here.
One risk of moonshining is producing this toxic kind of alcohol responsible for...
What is methanol?
...health issues inducing, including blindness.
Methanol.
A, ethanol.
That sounds right to me.
What is methanol?
B, isopropyl alcohol.
C, methanol.
And D, propanol.
What was D?
Propanol.
Yeah, you're gonna make beta blockers out of that?
Yeah, I'm gonna make beta blocks.
That your final answer, Dan?
Yeah.
Damn.
Got it.
From the hip. Didn't even let the question fit it.
For $8,000.
How many eyes are on a dollar bill?
A2, B3, C4, D5.
What the fuck? Like eyeballs?
Yeah.
EYES.
Wait, so you have the president on the front, then you would have the all-seeing eye on the back.
Right.
So you got at least three.
Isn't the monument of Lincoln on the back? Or no? That's not a penny.
Oh shit. So it would be five then, right?
It would be his eyes, and then you have the owl, too.
Wait, is the all-seeing eye on the front of the dollar bill?
No, it's on the back.
Do I have a dollar bill on my fucking wallet right now?
You can't fucking look at the dollar, too.
Come on, bro.
Whatever it is, I think it's wrong.
So what else is on the back?
Isn't there the monument of Lincoln on the back of the dollar?
Isn't that a five, though?
That might be a five.
Dude, what the fuck is on the back of a one dollar bill?
There's the pyramid with the eye at the top.
For sure.
And then...
Dude, I'm overthinking this so much.
Damn. How many eyes? What are the options?
A, two, B, three, C, four, D, five.
So if you have the... you obviously have two eyes on the front.
The all-seeing eye is on the back.
If there's a monument on the back, that would include two eyes.
So that would put you at five.
Or is there two all-seeing eyes on the back?
Because there's like one on each side.
I think there's one. Is there an eagle on it somewhere?
Fuck.
Because there's an eagle stamp, right?
The eagle looking...
Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Fuck.
Is there not?
No, there is. Right?
Dude, I don't fucking know. I don't know this.
I fucking suck at this. It's always presidents and currency and...
Fuck.
It's either three or five. It's gotta be.
Because you're gonna have an odd number because of the all-seeing eye, right?
So you can knock off two and four.
Logic, dude.
Unless there's another thing with one eye.
Yeah, because if you get the two, fucking...
Whatever. I think this question's wrong because there's a hidden owl, actually.
Oh, with the fucking... the light, right?
Up in the corner. There's a hidden owl.
Really? On a one dollar bill?
On a one dollar bill, yep.
Oh, shit. We can play this quest...
We're playing this question under protest because you're fucking wrong, Casey.
Look up the hidden owl on the dollar bill.
Owl on the dollar bill.
No way.
It's not a fucking owl.
Well, what is it then?
It's a little fucking... it's a little fucking, like, fabric of cloth.
Some people think it's a spider, so that would be A.I.'s right there.
Yeah, this question sucks, Casey.
You didn't even account for the hidden arachnid.
Okay?
Fucking asshole.
Shit.
Right? What is it?
I gotta look. I gotta see what Casey's seeing here.
You got me tripping now.
No, you can't look. You can't look.
Oh, shit. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Fuck.
Yeah, good point.
The funny thing is, is I would have looked into that and I would have came back to you and not knowing how many eyes there were.
I wouldn't have even paid attention to the rest of the bill.
Is it an owl or a spider on the dollar bill?
It's a... it adds eight to whatever... to however many eyes there are.
So that's already not even an option.
This question is debunked.
This is... this question is bullshit.
There will be no smelling salts if not awarded for the spider eyes.
So if we don't count the spider owl on the corner...
Is the spider owl off the table, Casey?
Yes, it's off the table.
Damn. Okay.
So you have to reword the question and say, excluding the spider owl.
Goddamn.
What a fucking... Wow, that art...
Excluding the spider owl and or any other arachnids.
How many eyes are on a dollar bill?
Alright, so Washington's two... he's got two eyes.
That's for sure.
The eye on the back, that's three.
Yeah.
Let's say there's at least one eagle with its head sideways, which is four.
Yeah, or some fucking head on a monument.
It's gotta be five, right?
I was gonna go with four.
Wait, four?
But is there a monument?
Oh, because I see what you're saying.
If there's an eagle, we'd only be seeing one of its eyes.
Because it's ten aside.
You gotta bring that logic in, though?
Fuck me.
But is there... do you remember any kind of monument in the back?
No, that's a five. That's a five.
I think that's a five.
We're saying that's a five.
So one, two, three... let's just say four to be safe.
Four. We could go five.
I'm telling you, man. I feel like it's odd.
You wanna fuck some queenies?
I feel like it's an odd number. That's just...
But there's also...
Look, this is you. I'm just here to help, but I'm derailing this whole thing.
No, no, no, no.
What's your gut?
No.
No, we're gonna... I get what you're saying with the eagle.
I just... I can't picture where it is in the back of the bill.
Like, where do you see the eagle on the back of the... on the back of the bill in your head?
I think it's on the front.
You think it's on the front?
I think it's on the front.
Is it like front... where, though?
Oh, I get... no, I remember that.
I think there's an eagle on the front.
That makes four make a lot more sense.
No, I'd be okay with four.
Then we're gonna check a dollar.
Final answer?
No.
Whatever, yeah.
Probably five.
They said four.
Oh, there we go!
Shit!
Yeah, so there's two on George Washington, there's one on the eagle, and one all seeing eye.
That's it! Our thought process led us right there.
Holy shit.
Nice.
That's fucking...
Nice one.
You wouldn't have been able to sway me to four unless you brought up how you would only see one eye on the eagle.
I wasn't even thinking about that.
Oh, damn.
16,000.
Which president dedicated the national monument, Mount Rushmore, when construction began in 1927?
A. Herbert Hoover
B. Calvin Coolidge
C. William Howard Taft
D. Warren Harding
What, uh... what was the date?
1927.
I don't think it's Calvin Coolidge, he was late.
Right?
Well, we're talking presidents here, Dan, so I'm not gonna lie, you're pretty much on your own.
We're talking Mount Rushmore here.
Yeah, we're talking, like, this is the bane of my existence.
You could ask me right now who the four people are and I wouldn't know.
We don't have to do smelling salts if we can name the four people.
No, because I can't do it.
It's no matter.
I can't even do it.
Alright, um...
Say the presidents again.
A. Herbert Hoover
And say it slow.
So, Herbert Hoover, he's an old one.
A. Herbert Hoover
He's old as fuck.
B. Calvin Coolidge
Fucking B is never the right answer.
C. William Howard Taft
D. Warding Hardin
Nobody knows who the fuck Hardin is, so it's Hoover or Taft.
Right?
I'm just thinking of the Hoover damn here.
Me too.
Guys, you guys haven't used the lifeline yet? Jesus.
Let's use a...
The 50-50?
Yeah, 50-50.
Yeah, let's lock in the 50-50 here.
50-50, you know, eliminate C and D.
We got answers are A. Herbert Hoover
B. Calvin Coolidge
It's gotta be Hoover.
It's gotta be Hoover, right?
I feel like Calvin Coolidge was more...
You think he was later?
I feel like he was later.
Hoover seems to make sense to me.
I don't know why.
Just basing it off of the damn
and the period where I think the damn got built,
I feel like that timeline adds up.
Yeah.
Let's just go with that.
I don't think Calvin Coolidge did anything
of any kind of importance.
Oh, okay. Final answer.
Based on your answer?
No, we're gonna change it to Calvin Coolidge.
Oh, okay. Final answer?
Fuck, dude!
You see how he does that shit?
He said, oh, okay.
If I read him between the lines,
that means, like, oh, you're about to be proven wrong.
So, let's go
and let's use that little
Freudian slip against him.
And let's go with Calvin Coolidge.
Final answer? Yeah.
I'm gonna be furious. Yeah.
Fuck you.
High five ahead of time. Psychology, bro.
Casey, you fucking dick.
Yeah!
Dude, I changed my answers on
my who wants to be a millionaire when he did that a couple times.
I'd be so sure you'd be like,
Sometimes I did it, and
I didn't even mean it to do it.
I know. You just couldn't,
you couldn't contain yourself without funny the loss was gonna be.
That was a good flip. That was a good save.
Alright, just for that one joke, so do you,
Alec Bacoste, the ghost pepper?
No. Nope.
No, you're up to $25,000. We're in the ghost pepper range, bro.
No.
Well, you gotta take a bite, at least.
Here we go.
$25,000.
Which is not a variant of the Chinese language.
A. Mandarin.
That is one.
B. Cantonese.
C. Fuzhou.
D. Urdu.
Oh, it's Urdu. It's Urdu.
That's Middle Eastern.
Sounds like, hello, my friend.
My old roommate was, he fucking
spoke Urdu. Yeah.
I agree.
Cantonese are the ones that sound like,
Sorry, go ahead.
You got it.
Something.
Something wrong.
A. Too low.
This is like, really, really like,
if you ever have heard Onage Pranks,
the Chinese voice that he does,
that's Cantonese. Oh, shit.
I fuck you in the butt, big boy.
Oh, I have seen that, yeah.
You want some fuck?
$50,000.
Urdu soccanoodle.
You suck my ass. Yeah.
$50,000.
Mark David Chapman,
John Lennon's assassin,
became obsessed with this classic novel
leading up to the shooting.
A. 1984.
B. Animal Farm.
C. The Catcher in the Rye.
Catcher in the Rye. D. Fahrenheit
454. Catcher in the Rye.
Yeah, it's Catcher in the Rye. That's why it was a banned book.
Right? I don't know.
I think it was.
I'm riding on that confidence you had.
Alright, final answer? Yeah.
Because we're just going to sit here and
we don't know.
This is just a wild guess.
He sounded like a profanity.
Yeah!
Let's fucking go.
You got it.
For $100,000.
Hundred
thousand smackeros.
Smallpox was declared
globally eradicated
in this year.
A. 1920.
B. 1940.
C. 1960. D. 1980.
I want to say that I was late.
It was like the 80s. I could see it being the 80s.
I was thinking
the same thing. Say the years again.
It was most prevalent earlier
but for it to be fully eradicated
that takes time. A. 1920. B. 1940.
C. 1960. D. 1980.
Right, I'm not crazy. That takes time to eradicate it.
I was thinking it would be later.
And then it's like, dude,
to have the technology
to get it to all of Africa,
the vaccine, right?
Because we have a smallpox vaccine.
Right? Yeah.
Wait, this is worldwide?
Worldwide eradication.
The only way you eradicate it is with a vaccine.
Yeah. Eradication.
Right?
They were inventing AIDS around the 80s
so they had pretty advanced
systems in place
to invent
and manufacture vaccines
and viruses.
Dude, I'm going to say I really have the feeling
that I was late. 80s.
I'm okay with 80s.
To globally eradicate something.
That takes a long time.
I'm going to go with 1980.
I'm good with that.
I feel like they were, it sounds like some
humanitarians would have gotten real busy in the 70s
trying to eradicate that for good.
You got to get that to all of Africa.
Yeah.
That's not easy. 80s.
Finally I'm bored with that.
Yep.
Alright.
Went for it.
Oh, yeah!
Oh, shit!
I did not think that was possible.
You said you went for it?
I thought we were fucked.
Dude, he tries to fuck with us.
Alright, let's go.
$150,000.
In the original Super Mario Bros.
Which level is
dominated by Hammerhead
Brother enemies?
A, 8-1. B, 8-2.
C, 8-3.
D, 8-4.
I don't know.
How did you, the levels, I don't understand the name.
It's like world 8,
level 1.
Okay, so they don't start throwing hammers.
In the second one.
So what are the...
8-1.
Hold on, 8?
That's world 8.
All the answers are world 8.
So you're already late in the game.
So I have no fucking idea.
I didn't play this fucking game.
So...
It's 8-1, 8-2, 8-3, 8-4.
So 8, what is 8 though?
That's like the level.
That's the world.
That's the world 8.
So there's like a couple levels in each world.
So you'd like go 1-1 is the first level in the game.
There's that many fucking levels in Super Mario?
Oh there's 8 worlds.
And there's 4 levels.
In each world.
So it's dominated by the dudes throwing the hammers.
Yeah, so this one's a fucking...
Unless we knew this Dan, we're fucked.
Well, hold on.
So this one's a fucking...
Unless we knew this Dan, we're fucked.
So this one's a fucking...
Hold on.
Because they're all world 8.
These are all super towards the end of the game levels anyways.
So unless you fucking knew this, you wouldn't.
Aren't the levels just...
Repeats of the previous levels.
But harder.
Yeah.
Right? Kind of.
So I know that...
Let's use that logic. I don't know if it's true.
But I know that the first level...
There's no guys throwing hammers.
The second one there's none.
And I think it was the third.
Let's go with 8-3.
You're confident in that?
So I'm okay with it.
Let's just go 8-3.
It seems like the letter C...
Like it's just good luck.
It's the highest probability of the four.
The fucking savant of millionaires.
Holy shit!
Have you ever played Super Mario?
Did I play it?
Well, I mean, have you beaten through it though?
No. Oh god no.
I was going to say, I've never made it past world 3.
Well, I think 3 is the one through there.
The savant is like Tyler's third.
That's world 8-3 now.
It was super intimidating.
Because that's when it got fucking hard.
Because there was the turtles with the fucking wings.
That was the worst level.
Koopa Troopas.
$500,000.
Damn!
Apple seeds produce this poison.
What is arsenic?
Come on!
What is arsenic?
A. Anthrax. B. Cyanide. C. Ricin. D. Arsenic.
I was going to...
I actually knew that one too.
I would have had to listen to him finish the question.
But I did know that.
Arsenic, yep.
Final answer.
What?
Hold on, hold on.
Wait a second.
What?
Hold on, it was cyanide.
Yeah it was.
Fuck!
I was going to guess arsenic dude.
That was my gut reaction.
I thought I knew that and I thought it was arsenic.
See, whenever I shout out the answer before he finishes.
Hallebeck, it's getting hot in here.
Rice is arsenic.
I'm not eating a fucking pepper.
Eat a whole ass rager.
I'm not eating a fucking pepper. You're out of your fucking mind.
Hold on, hold on. But hold on.
Hold on, don't do that.
Because hold on a sec.
Does it also have arsenic in it?
Yeah, I think it does.
That would suck.
Well, I said apple seeds produce this poison when chewed.
It was seeds!
Apples, pears, grapes absorb some arsenic that occurs naturally in soil or came from past use of pesticides.
Oh shit!
Right, but I said the apple seeds produce this poison when chewed.
What?
Hold on, what?
When chewed? Like it's acting with your saliva to create it?
Like it's being broken down.
Oh fuck.
Yeah, but I can see how that would technically occur.
Because where does an apple seed come from, Casey? It comes from the fucking apple.
From fucking Johnny fucking apples.
It comes from Johnny fucking apple seed.
But he's got a point. It might be not nearly as much of it, but there would be arsenic.
Alright, hold on a sec.
You fucking tell him, Dan.
You fucking tell him!
Oh my lord.
You're counting the fucking spiders on the dollar bill, Dan!
You fucking tell him!
Jesus Christ.
Fucking flawed at a fundamental level.
Alright, well you're going for a million dollars.
I'm not hitting the smelling sock, because that's debatable.
Debatable.
You have my support, Dan.
This is my last fucking cookie.
I'm not a bitch.
There you go.
One million dollars.
The properties on the Classic Monopoly Board are named after the streets of this US city.
A. Baltimore
B. Raleigh
C. Orlando
D. Atlantic City
Alright, so boardwalk.
So it's gotta be somewhere with a boardwalk.
Atlantic City has a fucking boardwalk.
And I'm pretty sure, isn't there like Atlantic something?
And it's such a dirtbag, like, greedy fucking game.
So that's like definitely Atlantic City vibes.
Right?
So, but...
There's a road named Atlantic too, right?
Well there's one named Baltimore too.
Baltimore, actually.
Here, go, go, uh, give me the names of the cities.
One at a time, and we'll dissect each one.
A. Baltimore
B. Maryland
I know not a fucking thing about, nor do I want to.
I've been there before.
Hold on, hold on. But there is South Carolina.
I have one, right?
One of the green ones is like...
One of the green ones.
I can't remember.
Uh, B. Raleigh
C. Orlando
Wait, but boardwalk is also one of the best properties in the game.
And boardwalk is...
I mean that's fucking Atlantic City.
Not Atlantic City, all fucking day.
That's New Jersey, right?
That is, New Jersey
is the greediest fucking dump
on the face of the fucking planet.
The armpit of this filthy fucking greedy country.
It is the epicenter
of fucking greed.
Alright, it is probably
more than likely Atlantic City.
Let's not fuck this up but let's dissect this.
Alright, Raleigh doesn't have a boardwalk.
No.
There's no boardwalk in Raleigh. Have you ever been to the boardwalk in Orlando?
I don't think Orlando has a boardwalk. Wait, it's not it's not does Orlando have a boardwalk
No, there's no
What I just don't agree it's like it's in the middle of a fucking swamp
Yeah, what are you gonna walk on the fucking swamp boy? Oh, let's go to the fucking let's get a cattail shirt like what the fuck
That doesn't make any sense. I've never heard of the boardwalk in Orlando, right?
I don't remember any of those fucking street names. So definitely not
Definitely not Orlando definitely not Raleigh. And so it's between Atlantic City and Maryland
Baltimore. Yeah
Dude, it's got it. So hold on a sec Baltimore, Maryland is like I
Feel like there would be some more like fucking ghetto shit on the Monopoly board if it was in Baltimore
Fuckin Judson Street
Like there would be like the fucking ghetto
So I'm gonna go it's just got well Atlantic City has a ghetto too, though
Pretty much they have the boardwalk and then everything else and it's a whole state is the ghetto
It'd be a it'd be a place you want hotels
I
Mean Baltimore's not really a fucking destination
I know it's not it but fuck what if they just like made the game and fucking Baltimore though
What is there's no correlation to anything like Albany could have fucking a boy named some more straights here there's Baltic Ave, right?
Do I can't remember many of them I remember oh she was it oceanic
No, there's something that there's a fucking street that's named Atlantic and fucking Atlantic City
Boardwalk like one of the railroads the Redding railroad
Right
Right boat boy would Pennsylvania phone a friend Pennsylvania railroad
Casey can I get that?
I get that stress me out here a million dollar quest. I think we should call training
All right, how late is it?
Is he working I don't know he's you know
Wait, maybe he started his new fucking work schedule. Actually see if he's up. He would know this
He's probably written on the fucking Pennsylvania dude if he got out at midnight tonight
We might actually be able to fucking pull this off here I
Think we narrowed it down to Baltimore, Maryland or Atlantic City. Dude. He got out of work an hour and 12 minutes ago
All right, our friends our friends at T-Mobile are gonna get us train man on the horn
That's who you have
Right, I don't want to bug him at one o'clock in the morning is probably asleep to be honest what's in Baltimore
What do you know about the Orioles that's a
Ravens their sports teams. I know that it's kind of a trashy city
Yeah, there's a lot of shootings there
High violence. It's got to be Atlantic City. It's the city agreed. It's got to be bro. It really it really is
With Atlantic bro. I don't mean I'm confident sending that in with fucking Atlantic. I'm not gonna lie
Casey's giving us the fucking giggle again. You still you still have to be honest
You still you still got hit from a host
Well, I'll give you a hit
Okay, it's your lifeline
What a dick are you gonna use it
Okay, we'll get a hint from the host. Okay. My hit is don't save your all your lifelines to the last question
He didn't so he would have told us we were wrong though
We that was a hint from the host
He just said he just gave us advice of the game cuz we got the question right. I think that's how I'm dissecting
I don't know how to dissect that because they could be you fucking idiot. You don't even deserve a hand take the loss
Which is a bullshit hint by the way, New Jersey's known for boardwalks
They're just known for fucking boardwalks
Right. They are
So are you gonna have a boardwalk Avenue in the fucking hood in Baltimore?
I've never heard of anybody going to the to the fucking boardwalk, but I've also
Dude, I'm all for it. I don't say the question one more time
The properties on the classic monopoly board are named after the streets of this u.s. City dude
It has got to be a link city
Because Casey didn't give us a hint towards the question because we were down the right thought path
So he would have given us a little insight. He would have been like it's not Atlantic City
It would have fucking been snarky to us
But he was snarky, but he didn't direct us down a different thought path
And it was a hint from the host be a pretty shitty hint if he didn't contribute anything to the question
Wait, wait, wait, so Baltimore, Maryland. Yeah, Maryland's on there Baltimore Maryland Maryland that might be on the coast
But Atlantic City definitely
Baltic what does Baltic mean?
Baltic Avenue
What does Baltic mean?
Baltic sounds like
Baltimore
I don't know about that
What is a Baltic?
Where are the Baltics?
What the fuck is a Baltic?
I don't know
The Baltic states are in Europe
But also just like the Baltics
Yeah, the Boston Baltics
What does that mean?
Dude, I don't know
What does that mean?
Dude, I don't fucking know
I don't see this be in Baltimore though
Oh man, but now I'm second guessing
I'd say you call a train man
I think that Baltimore Maryland could have a fucking boardwalk
Call Tyler on his cruise
I got the fucking wi-fi
For one reason
You call me at one o'clock in the morning
Oh, sorry
Call your girlfriend
No, he's probably awake
He's gotta be awake
We might add an early night with the Mrs. though
Just call Tyler on Facebook
Oh god
Dude, can I do a
Text a friend?
Who you text?
Can I do a phone a friend to call
Another friend?
I know somebody who's a game board
Expert
What the fuck? What in the pawn stars
Did you just say?
He's literally
He owns, this man owns
Over 500
Game board games
500
He was up to a thousand
He had to sell some of them off
What the fuck? What's he doing with them?
He plays them every weekend
He's a thousand
Buddy, that's quite the backlog
No, it's a collection
I'm being a dick
Dude, we're gonna narrow this down somehow
Right?
Did you send the text?
What are the orange
Give me one of the fucking orange
I don't know
Dude, the only thing that's popping in my head is the blue ones
Which I'm pretty sure Atlantic Avenue
Or like Ocean Avenue
No, there's one that says Ocean, right?
I'm not going crazy
There's like Ocean Boulevard or something
There's gotta be
Somewhere on that board
Right?
I don't remember an Ocean Boulevard
It doesn't make sense to me
I feel like I remember that being there
But I can't say that with certainty
Baltic Boardwalk
Park Place
I mean, there's a fucking Park Ave right out here
Yeah, parks everywhere
Park doesn't narrow it down
No, Boardwalk narrows it down
To two possible fucking stakes
Why do we dismiss Rally so quickly?
Because I've been there and there's no Boardwalk
But there couldn't be a road
Just named Boardwalk though
Unlikely
It is unlikely
I'm okay with that immediate dismissal then
And the most expensive ones are the Boardwalk
Yeah
And I'm pretty sure that
If there is an Ocean or an Atlantic one
Well, what's the green ones?
I feel like the green ones
One of them is like South Carolina
Something to do with the Carolinas
I don't remember that
Yeah
You said Yup
Like agreeing with us or you just
He said Carolina
So you're agreeing with that though
That one of them is named Carolina
What other lifelines do we have?
Double Dip
Oh yeah
So we can ask twice
For that one
Oh, we can double dip?
We can double dip it
And send it on
Atlantic
Yeah, Atlantic City
Double Dip, Double Dip Atlantic
Oh wait, no, you gotta give two answers
With the double dip
Atlantic City or Baltimore
Let's go with both of those
I'm okay with that
Alright, what's your first answer?
Atlantic
I want that to be right
No, not Baltimore
Because the way he smiled
We're gonna stretch it up again
That's your answer?
Yeah
Ah
Oh no
Alright, there's no smelling salts yet
We still have the double dip
Atlantic City
Yeah, what we know it's been this entire
Fucking time
If it's fucking time
Yeah, so that one that you're talking about was
There was a North Carolina
That was the
Green space
Well, I'm just saying that was what
You were thinking of
So he's gotta be trying to get us to change it right now
Right?
No, it's Atlantic City
It's fucking time
Well, we knew that
I'm glad we drew that one out as long as we did
You guys
Just won a million dollars
Yes
No fucking ghost peppers here baby
There we go
I got some trivia for Casey
Yeah
Let me tell you
So for your advantage in the
Next Jeopardy you can either start with
Start with
2,000 points
Or pick one category of your choice
Start with 2,000 points
Yeah, dude that's gonna
Get him real right now
Oh, he's not gonna like that at all
I don't like that at all
Oh shit
He's not gonna like that at all
Alright, we're gonna put
Casey to the test here
Hell yeah
Alright, so there's no multiple
Tries here
He's gotta know it
Alright, the category is
AM
Is AM
AM, so
First question
Like Alex McDonnell
The abbreviation
For
For radio
AM
Stands for what
Fucking
Antenna
Antenna modulation
Oh, AM and FM
Right
And then there's XM too
There's XM radio, don't forget that
XM
Something
Modulator
Antenna modulator
I just threw that out there like a
Dickhead, I don't know why
I know modulation is like
A radio term
I don't use me
Antenna modulation
Amplitude modulator
Oh shit
That was good, holy fuck
I didn't even need
To contribute to help you out
Amplitude modulation
Amplitude modulator
Frequency modulator
Damn, I didn't know that
Mx sounds are satellite, they just wanted to be fucking stupid
Hit those smilings off
Fuck, damn it
Alright
He doesn't get multiple choices
He doesn't get a lifeline, nothing
He just gets barebacked on six questions
That's alright, I like it
So, one of the questions
You already got
I was going to say, the initials of one of the members
Of the Untitled podcast
Oh, Alex McDonnell
So you already got that before it even started
Oh yeah, the categories AM, right
Alright
A now defunct
Airline that has become a
Railroad company
Has
These initials in its name
Defunct railroad
It's a defunct airline that's become a railroad
Train man would get this instantly
The initials of the company are AM
It's in the name
So it's not the initials
It's not the initials of the company
AM is just contained within it
It's in the name
Like Amtrak, but not
Oh
But not Amtrak
Amtrak was never an airline
That would have been my guess
So I can't help anymore
Shit
Amtrak was never an airline
It's an airline
That's now defunct
And he's a railway
They went out of business
I don't know the names of any fucking railways
You only know the names of airlines
That went out of business
Oh shit bro
It's part of the name
And it rhymes, almost
Yeah
I'm just going to hit the smelly toilet
That would be Pan Am
Oh shit
Fuck
Pan Am
Oh fuck
I wouldn't have got that
Boat Boy would have had that one before the first one was out of your mouth
Fucking 800 Alex
Great
Case is getting fucked up here
It's not fun
In reference to time
AM stands for what?
The time?
What?
So like 5.45 AM
Oh
Fuck, why don't I know what that means
Yeah, that's
I don't know it either
I honestly don't know this one either
Antimyridion
Meaning afternoon
Oh damn
I think it's before noon
I didn't know what that meant
I've heard that before
Like prime meridian, right?
Yeah, antimyridium
Before midday
It would be such a dickhead when everybody
Asks for the time
Oh it's 4.45 anti meridian
That's all I got
I got another question
Name that artist
This artist
This artist sings a rap song about
Pregnant gold retrievers
It's mentioned
It's a line in the song
Pregnant golden retrievers?
Clearly he would be referring to bitches
I would imagine
It's a rap song, right?
It's a rap song
What is this fucking neo?
Is this one open for the floor?
For the floor?
Anybody
I don't know, golden retrievers?
Pregnant golden retrievers
What is biggie?
Notorious big?
It talks about
Pregnant golden retrievers
And picking up Stevie Wonder
To be the wide receiver
I mean it sounds funny
Shit
Tyler would get this instantly
That would be Yonkers
By Tyler the creator
Oh yeah
I don't know that one
Alright, no more stealing Casey's thunder
This is Casey's job
I just wanted to ask
I like watching it though
I wanted to ask some questions
I want to derail Tyler on Jeopardy
Dude, he's gonna really not be happy about the $2000 thing
Well, we should really have Casey
He might play under protest
I don't know if he's gonna play
We should have Casey give us the answers
So we can just steamroll him
Like it doesn't really count
If he catches it by listening to it
It's gonna be a good game
If he catches it by listening to the podcast beforehand
We don't do it
Right, but I doubt he's gonna listen this far ahead
And you think he is?
No, he doesn't listen
If he's a true fan he would
So we'll test him, see if he actually
So Casey could give us some study questions
To know the answer to
And we'll just absolutely
Obliterate him
And we'll even unplug his controller so it doesn't buzz
That's devious
That is devious
I could literally change this button
So it really doesn't work that well
Or I have control over it
What a belt down
It might work sometimes and not others
He's really not gonna be happy
I don't think he'll play
If we do that
And just do not obliterate him
Like $15,000 to zero
Dude, he would leave here so pissed
Oh, congrats Tyler on your engagement
Yeah, congrats
Hopefully you listen, buddy
Hopefully you know what you're in store for
Alright, well we're at 4 hours and 17 minutes
4 hours?
Yeah, that's including the hour from last week
Oh, you're gonna include that
Yeah, that's the start to this one
Damn, you know that's when you were talking about the bit flips, right?
I can't remember
Yeah, I can't remember
I can't remember
Yeah, you're talking about Super Mario, right?
Super Mario 64?
Right?
The cosmic rays and the bit flip
Oh, right, yeah
So, dude, I was actually reading something
Did you look into that at all?
That thing was fucking up
Yeah, I did, I watched the video
But
I saw this thing, I was reading about
Do you remember the whole Toyota acceleration scandal?
Oh, the one where they couldn't fucking stop it from accelerating?
People were claiming that these Toyotas were accelerating out of control
And so they brought in NASA engineers to try and help them diagnose the problem
And the NASA engineers said there is no problem
And the US government said no, there's a fucking problem
And one of the lawyers said that there could have been a cosmic ray
That had hit these cars causing a bit to flip
And causing them to accelerate out of control
Yeah, because if it hits the right one or zero
It will switch just that one little thing
But if you hit the right piece of code
Some crazy shit can happen
So there's no way to prove it
And they made Toyota pay $1.2 billion
What?
Yeah, there really is, there's no way you could prove it
Because we don't even have the technology to shoot a cosmic ray like that
Literally, NASA said that it was not real at all
They said this problem is not a real problem
So they came up with the, they said that it was the floor mats
Were getting stuck on the gas pedal
Bullfucking shit
No, so the whole thing is that Toyota was outselling General Motors
General Motors was getting ready to get bailed out by the government
So in order to make it a better value for the government to buy
Because they're really giving them a loan
That they're going to have to repay
So to make themselves look better and increase the value of General Motors stock
They had to bash the competition down
So what does that do to Toyota stock if they get fined a billion dollars?
It's going to plummet their stock and people are going to buy General Motors
You see?
So it was really market manipulation
And they blamed it, the reason they won in court
Is because they blamed it on a fucking cosmic ray bit flip
They won it because of the cosmic ray?
Yeah, yeah, because the guy brought up the point that you can't prove that it wasn't a cosmic ray and a bit flip
Yeah
It's like, okay, well that affects every fucking car you asshole
You know, it's not just fucking Toyotas
Yeah
So
That's a good strategy though
Yeah, but it cost Toyota 1.2 billion dollars
I was trying to go that far, oh shit, 420
Anyway
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Do we check the email to see if we got anything?
And each other
We do not
Can we check that quick? Sorry
Alright, fine
Bro, you never know when it's going to happen
Could have happened right before the episode aired
Tyler might have sent us something in his absence
Bro
Perhaps
He could have
Damn
Oh
That's my password
I have no idea what the password is
No production quality here
I'm really making us drag this on
I'm sorry
Kind of a douche
Oh
Hope you're awake everybody
It's got fucking buzzed
Alright, we didn't get any emails
Alright
Fuck yeah
So as always, be kind to yourselves
And each other
Fuck off
No, we, okay, yeah, whatever
This episode's over
Wait, oh, hold up, no, we out
This is an abortion of an enemy
I'll go back
For all we know, robots have souls
We just don't know if they do or don't
How do you know?
Have you ever been a cyborg or a robot?
No
You think we were the first ones to inhabit this planet?
Yeah, well, I was just a little dubby sack, right?
No, no, we are jumping down this fucking rabbit hole
Yes, we are
There's people out there with some really dumb thoughts
I wonder if y'all got the game
Extended episodes
Where the fuck did the Scyrbans come from?
Where the fuck did Stonehenge come from?
You're telling me that they didn't die and become ghosts?
They're killing all the already born babies and selling them to the Chinese
Aliens exist
Somewhere in China, alright, in some days
What the fuck?
There are super soldiers that are at least 9 or 10 feet tall
Oh my god
Anthropoclesatrum, they have dreaded the super soldiers
Then they are extraterrestrials, they are aliens
I don't know
I do not know what the alien pair are
Why do you decide to kill me?
Run!
We gotta go to the fucking moon
Because fucking JFK got assassinated by the fucking government
He got killed by the CIA
JFK was killed by the government
Before my eyes, while holding their pulse
You feel them die of this virus
You feel bump bump bump
Beep!
Nothing, they're fucking gone
I've seen it happen
I think that the government has taken it to the next level with the birds
They know what birds are going to cross paths with you
That you are going to be able to raise
And they are going to make them so fucking real
They're going to sink money into them
Because they know that if you put that motherfucker in a cage
They're going to be able to convince you that they can fucking real
You can cut it open, you're going to see blood cuts, no circuitry
But let me tell you, their technology is out of solution
Which by the way, big brother, is the overlord kibbit
We're only living in the third dimension
George Soros is an actual Nazi collaborator
Okay, I'm not fucking lying
It's fucking real
Okay, look it up
Look it up, he says that he was doing this shit
George Soros actually worked with the fucking Nazis during the Holocaust
He says that he was doing it just to survive
But he fucking loved it
He was having a great fucking time doing this shit
George Soros is the fucking devil
Okay, I'm going to tell you something
George Soros is the fucking devil
Okay, he's not fucking doing this shit
George Soros is fucking evil
He's the actual fucking leader for all this shit
He's fucking fucked down a whole bunch of shit
Just don't fucking get it
Everybody likes Donald Trump
Donald Trump is the fucking word person out there
Fuck Trump, right? Fuck Trump
He's not the actual fucking leader
It's George Soros, it's Bill Gates, it's fucking Elon Musk
It's everyone out there
Everybody, can you see?
Elon Musk is so cool, he made like a place for himself
The actual government is trying
The actual full government
Which is George Soros and all his fucking Nazis
Are actually the ones that are fucking all of them
The clear politicians are paid off by the fucking bill
He's fucking fucked