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Welcome to Unpidled Podcast.
Episode 56!
We're here on Tyler Lee's House of Pain.
This episode is completely AI, or is it?
Who knows?
We leave that to you to decide.
Tyler, you into those Tyler Perry movies?
I've seen a couple of them.
I've never seen one.
I like Medea's Haunt House.
What the fuck was it?
Was it Death of the Funeral, Tyler Perry?
I thought it was.
I don't know.
Tyler, tell us why it's your House of Pain tonight.
Oh, it's always my House of Pain.
I'm just feeling...
I broke my finger.
Technically I dislocated it the other day, so my finger's in a lot of pain.
So it's already a House of Pain from that.
I like it.
I might get punched in the face today.
I don't know.
What?
Yeah.
I might ask one of you guys to actually punch me in the face.
I'm not gonna do that.
Why?
Because it'd be fun.
It would be fun, but why?
I mean, it would be fun.
I'm not throwing the punch, though.
I might break my hand.
Can I wear boxing gloves?
Yeah, you can wear boxing gloves.
We'll see.
Dude, I would feel too bad.
Why?
Dude, I was a boxer for fucking 13 years.
I know you were, man.
I just...
I don't...
No.
You don't take a swing on a defenseless man, even if he's willing.
Tyler's gonna get a subarachnoid hemorrhage live on the podcast.
All right.
Right before my cruise.
Gonna get a fucking epidural hematoma.
Look, we got episode 56.
That's a big science word.
Just wanted to say heartfelt thanks for all the fans that listened to us.
Well, I'm convinced don't exist.
What's the email here?
Untitledpodcast73 at gmail.com.
Maybe we just bring it up too late in the episode.
Can we put that in the description of one of the episodes?
Like the actual...
Wait.
I think we should actually put that in the description of the episodes, because that
would actually help out.
We should.
It's on the page.
Wait, it's untitled97 at Gmail?
No, untitledpodcast73 at Gmail.
Untitledpodcast73 at Gmail.
We'll put it in the description.
We always bring it up two hours, and we probably lose most of you by then.
But we don't think you exist, and we will continue to believe that until proven otherwise.
Shout out Belgium.
Yeah, bullboy, that does not mean you fucking send an email.
We already got one from you.
Send us an email, Sylv.
Yeah, send us an email.
Seriously, get out of the hotel.
Shout out Belgium, because that's our biggest viewership.
Yeah, Belgium.
You're fucking killing it.
Listen, listen.
We ever make it like huge levels, we are doing a meet and greet in Belgium, and we will sign
everything.
Let me tell you guys, I just fucking love Blue Moon Beer.
That's Belgian.
That's a Belgian style.
I'm hoping you guys are from Eastern Belgium, closer to the German side, instead of the
French side.
And there goes our viewers.
Shout out to the French side.
I speak French.
Shout out to the German side, because I speak German.
And you guys, I'm impartial towards you.
I love you all, but I just don't think you exist.
Send a fucking email.
They even speak English and Belgium.
There they go.
French and German.
French and German, okay.
Well, wait, why do we believe we have a viewership there?
Because it says so.
Yeah, it says so.
You can see where they're from.
That's probably where they run some AI that scans us, and they're like, no talent.
Next.
That's where they run their VPN.
That's where Dan runs his VPN.
That would suck.
What if we're just only available in Belgium?
We only come up in the fucking algorithm in Belgium.
Oh, yes, Untitled's podcast.
Untitled, yeah.
They must really not have a good podcast over there.
How the fuck do I say that?
How the fuck do I say Untitled?
Nine out of nine.
Ooh, yeah.
Tyler, what was your poignant question?
My poignant question today is, this question can go a little bit deeper than just surface
level.
If monsters were 100% real, they were proven to be real, would it be moral and justified
to hunt them down to extinction?
I think to answer that question, you need to define what a monster is.
There's bigfoot, goblins, werewolves.
I think if they're trying to kill us, then it's self-defense.
It could be one of those things where it's like, maybe some of them are not necessarily
just straight up evil, but they're still a monstrosity, and they had the chance to go
feral at any point.
I don't think-
I mean, it would be racist to kill them at that point.
I feel like I kind of got to go down Casey's route a little bit here.
Whenever I hear something like this, you think of Red Dead One, when you 100% it and you
kill the fucking last Sasquatch.
Undead Nightmare, actually.
Undead Nightmare, that's right.
It's like, you killed my whole family, but there's no, I'm the last one left.
That's a moral question.
Do you kill the last one, or do you let him free?
Because you can kill him, or you can let him free.
I think at that point, you've done so much damage and he's begging you to kill him because
his life is just misery.
I think it is morally justified in that instance to recognize your sins and put him out of
his misery.
But if you didn't kill him, would that also make him into a justifiable monster if he
started actually attacking people?
That's me.
Yes, it would.
Yes.
Because he's attacking people.
But would he be morally just in attacking people because his entire race was hunted
to extinction?
I think no more morally just than I would be.
I mean, you hear all these fucking revenge killings where people get convicted to life
in prison.
If they're not just killing anybody just for no reason, then I don't see a reason to hunt
them down.
So this is a prime example.
In Red Dead, like he was saying, Undead Nightmare, one of the missions is you have to hunt down,
I think it's like 14 big feet.
I thought it was like five or six, but it's been so long since I played it.
I don't fucking know.
Great DLC though.
Yeah.
You got to go through the woods, the pale fucking horse, the death horse.
They had the four horse of the apocalypse.
Yeah, the four horses.
Death was my favorite, but I liked War 2.
You got the unicorn once you...
No, you got a fifth one when you got all four of them.
No, so you had to get three.
Because you get the death...
I'm telling you, you got the four horse of the apocalypse and you got some shit.
The first three horses are in the map.
And in order to get death to show up, you have to get all three in your stable.
I could have sworn it was...
I got to look into it.
I could have sworn it was the unicorn.
Because death...
It was weird.
The death horse, you can either get by getting all three of the horsemen or all three of
the horses and then you can get death or you could get death from completing the game because
John, spoiler alert, dies in Undead Nightmare and in Red Dead Redemption.
They have the shit in Red Dead?
In Undead Nightmare.
It's like a horror.
Instead of having cowboys, they're like zombie cowboys that you have to kill and shit.
Oh, cool.
Also, Undead Nightmare was a standalone game that they released as a DLC.
Okay, so you did not have to obtain the four...
No, you do.
Yeah, so after the players killed the Chupacabra and completed all of the four horse of the
apocalypse challenges, you unlock the unicorn, which is essentially invincible unless you
shoot it in the back of the head.
Which I did because I thought it was like, oh, I got an invincible.
You don't get it back.
I fucking practically 100% of the DLC and I shot the unicorn in the head.
And I was riding into a town so it quick saved right as I did.
And I couldn't go back and load a save where I had it unless I went back hours.
Oh, God.
I was mad.
What a nightmare.
I liked the death horse.
It's an undead nightmare.
That's the name of the...
Dude, the best part about the death horse is you just ride past zombies and they explode.
I liked...
Fuck, what was the one?
The warped flame one?
I liked Pestilence.
The one that made him throw up?
I think so.
Yeah.
It just looked cool.
Pestilence was not...
It had like the flies around it and shit.
Death was white and it had like a black tail, I think.
Because in biblical...
Death had like the black cloud around it too.
Yeah, no, it had like a white ghostly cloud around it.
War had fire.
Yeah, war had fire.
That was a shitty one.
This is the first one you get.
I liked war.
I liked war and then death.
Those were my two favorite.
Famine and Pestilence, I was like, whatever.
As you can...
I was not wearing...
The one day I'm not wearing my fucking Four Horsemen hoodie, but I am a big fan.
I'm a big fan of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
It's a biblical, really cool thing that...
So I want to actually talk about that.
I think that's an interesting topic, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Because Bible study with Tyler.
Kicking it off early, I like this.
The Bible doesn't actually say that they're Four Horsemen.
I think it's a more metaphorical thing that it's war leads to famine and pestilence and
famine and pestilence end up leading to death every single time.
Because war will burn the crops and the diseases, so that'll lead to famine.
And the dead bodies that are left behind from war will breed diseases which will make pestilence
and the last horse is death.
I'd argue that war probably causes the most death of the three.
It does.
Unless you're talking about the fucking Black Death.
Black Death came from the bodies of...
I forgot which war it was, but the rats ate the bodies and then they got Black Death and
then they started spreading the disease.
We gotta fucking...
That'll be what we do next episode.
We'll all infect ourselves with the bubonic plague.
Speaking of war, so Gaza is almost done.
Hamas is almost taken over in southern Gaza.
I mean let's be real, fucking you have the entire Israeli military might and the rest
of the western world against a fucking tiny thing about that big on the fucking map.
Yeah they thought they were gonna win.
Dude, I just want all the fucking protestors to shut the fuck up.
I have a co-worker.
They said that they went to fucking Times Square.
Oh during that fucking shit?
Yeah, to see...
No, not Times Square, sorry.
They went to the Rockefeller Plaza to see the tree lighting and the protestors completely
fucked it up.
They just killed the tree lighting and then they uploaded a YouTube video of last year's
from a different camera angle to make it look like it was this year's.
The Palestine protestors?
Yeah, yeah and it's just like look I get it and I'm not super informed on the whole war
and everything, but based off of what I understand this war over there has been going on for
years.
For some...
Hundreds.
Not even years, yeah I was gonna say hundreds of years.
This fucking war.
So this war is basically a holy war between the Jews and the Muslims that have been going
on since fucking...
Well it's been going on since World War II ended.
No before that.
I was gonna say no that's always been hotly contested.
It's fucking like Jerusalem and that shit.
As Israel itself it's been since World War II, but Zion, the people of Zion have been
at war with the Muslims since fucking...
But they haven't been actually fighting.
They've been fighting here and there.
It's intermittent conflict, but it's always been fucking going on.
It takes breaks.
It's like thousands of people getting killed until this year.
No, no, no there's been a lot of...
Like basically in the last few years Hamas would shoot like a missile at Israel and they
would shoot it down and they'd just have that exchange like a few times a day.
They wouldn't have actually anybody killed in the fighting like the last few years.
That Israeli Defense Force fucking women though.
All I'm saying though is that like... so she went to this fucking tree lighting and she
gets blocked off from it and you got a bunch of white people protesting this shit that's
going on forever away.
Let me give you a fucking pro tip to all the protesters.
Israel and Hamas do not give a fuck.
You're protesting a fucking tree lighting.
People are traveling and taking time off of work.
They're trying to stop war crimes.
I get it but Hamas doesn't give a fuck.
Israel doesn't give a fuck.
It was like the George Floyd riots.
It's like wow you're doing a riot in Albany, New York after fucking somebody... what was
it?
Fucking Minnesota.
The people in power could give two shits about your protest.
They see it and they're like oh okay cool.
All right.
They don't give a fuck what the people want.
Jesus Christ.
Maybe Hamas will see that tree lighting video on their phone and just call it into it.
I just think it's funny how they're protesting against the Jewish people because that's what
the protest was like an anti-Jewish thing.
But they're protesting a Catholic or a Christian holiday.
Dude all I'm saying is exactly.
It's like these guys...
I don't have anything to do with it.
Who's side are you on?
Who are these people protesting because people are dying.
There's innocent civilians dying on both sides.
So who are these people protesting?
Guys guess what?
They're not just going to stop the fucking war.
It's like those memes of the fucking Russian soldier watching a fucking TikTok.
They're going war makes me sad.
Stop the war.
And then the Russian soldier goes I got to show this to Putin.
He runs back to Putin.
He's just like well we do have to end the war.
TikTokers are sad so we have to end it.
Yeah exactly.
Dude it doesn't...
And I just remember the way my fucking...
Also on TikTok you can just straight up see the war and just see people get blown up.
It's a televised war now.
I'll keep this politically correct as I can.
She was saying how a couple of her male friends that were with her were just really mad at
how they couldn't see the tree lighting.
There was an exchange of some words.
He said that there was somebody with blue hair that was quite obese for her frame.
And he got into quite the argument with that person and very quickly exposed the fact that
they really knew fucking nothing about what was going on.
So these blue hair liberals are the ones who are protesting Palestine now.
No they're protesting Israel.
On Palestine's side yeah.
So it wasn't really a left versus right war based off of the exchange of words until the
very end because he had the person figured out they knew that they were liberal.
But he was just going off about the war.
The other person knew nothing about it so they weren't even able to debate back at him.
And then he just fucking was like all right hey by the way fucking go Trump.
Like got them super triggered.
The whole thing is like I always fucking hated arguing with like blue haired liberal people
because halfway through the argument you realize that they're so stupid that it's like punching
a baby.
Dude the one thing I will say is that no matter what and even when I was fucking super liberal
the all I got all I got in the fucking.
Well I was never super liberal.
I know that's a stretch.
I was left leaning at the time.
But when I would go on my phone all the fucking ads I would see for like YouTube videos would
always be like Republican destroys Democrat at like some college debate thing.
And it's like you see your fucking bench here going male and women.
There's only two genders because there's only X Y chromosome.
But like you don't have a pen Shapiro for the liberal side.
There's no fucking.
I'm the bench up here.
I'm trying to be the bench up here on this podcast for the liberal.
Yeah.
And you're fucking sucking at it.
That's like the rest of this shit.
No because I'm not a full like I'm I have like I know I know you do.
But it's like but it's like are you still a full blown commie.
Never in my life.
I'm socialist.
I'm not communist.
Like have I seen a highlight of like a Democrat taken down and just dismantled.
Like this is a video where even me as a left leaning person at the time was like God damn
fuck he's got like a good like that's a tough one to come back back at.
Also it's like you're watching a fucking murder trial and your defendant just shot the person
in the head and you're like how the fuck am I going to am I going to defend myself right
now.
You can't.
It's indisputable proof.
And that's what comes in.
And that's what the biggest thing is like for me personally.
The liberals don't have a blue Shapiro.
That may not be the name of the episode.
Blue Shapiro.
But I think it's like the thing is like the right actually like you know the whole like
adage that comedy changes like politics because like if you can't joke about it then you can't
really do anything about it.
I can do about anything.
No but the thing is like but I know you can joke about things.
But let's think of most left leaning people.
You say one wrong word and a joke.
You're done.
You're done forever.
And that's in like the people on the right don't give a shit.
So like you fuck you can make fun of like so you're telling me that meme I sent with
the guy smoking the stillborn the boof out of a stillborn would not be appropriate for
a left leaning liberal.
They probably would fucking hate that.
I'm saying that libs they're not all we're going to destroy the libs on this.
They're not they're not all fucking pieces of shit.
The majority of them aren't.
But like sometimes it's just like the libs have like the more extreme of the I can't
even say that.
Oh look they both have extremes.
But like the libs are so much easier to just be like even even liberals that aren't like
fucking libtards will see the shit that the libtards do and they're like fuck that's embarrassing.
You know what confirmation bias is.
Yeah.
You believe everything that is goes with the beliefs that you already have.
So like if you're a conservative you'll believe everything that find a way to believe everything
that you'll watch Fox News for 13 straight hours every kind of liberal media you'll disagree
with.
I think that's like happening.
That's what's dividing people is that we don't like accept what the other side has to offer.
I feel like the right as as as racist and all that shit as they as the left accuses
them of they're more willing to compromise than the left.
Honestly I think the I think the root of the issue that you have compromise on I think
I think that you have people getting involved and knowledgeable about politics at a younger
age at least more in the masses than usual.
And so was I.
But my views like have changed.
Like I don't think 20 years ago there was many like 20 year olds that were like oh my
God I got a fucking not 20 year olds like 18 year olds like college age kids being like
oh let me see.
Like no you had your fucking rage against the whole shit like that.
18 year olds got the vote right to vote in the 80s.
So pretty much the thing is majority of 18 to 25.
I'm just saying now there's more of an attention.
They're actually not that's younger.
That's that's that's maybe because now the 18 19 20 year olds can vote.
Well I'm not talking about the 80s.
Look I don't know what fucking no but since since right now the past like 10 years like
our generation I feel like is there more informed but like people have always been politicized
when I was informed.
I would say that it's more people more hostile.
It's like it's more hostile.
It pops up on social media and you can know nothing about politics and get swayed to one
side or the other because you see a YouTube short or some shit and you're like oh yeah
I like what that guy says.
Yeah I'm a Republican or oh I'm a fucking Democrat.
I just used to think that like the Milo Yiannopoulos videos and fucking like Ben Shapiro videos
were really funny back in the day.
Like when they were like during like the 2016 election like when I was watching that shit
I was just like yo this is fucking funny because like these guys would like just go up there
and I don't know do you know who Milo Yiannopoulos is.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like the guy who's not gay anymore who is gay but refuses to have sex because he says
that's a sin now.
It's fucking weird.
But like Milo used to just go up there.
He's just like I love sucking black cocks so you can't tell me that I'm racist or homophobic.
Like that's just like and like it disarmed their entire fucking argument.
Like yeah.
And like that's why I liked watching him so much because like they try to go up and argue
with like you're a racist and homophobic.
He's just like I like sucking black dicks.
Yeah like how are you going to hold that person intolerant.
They're tolerating a black cock down their fucking throat.
Okay.
He's like I've had more black cocks in my mouth than anybody in this room.
Like that's fucking funny.
That doesn't mean you're not an asshole.
You can still be an asshole.
The thing I realized is when I was fucking definitely the most left leaning I've been
in my entire life I was a political science major a year out of high school and I was
super involved.
I was a huge Bernie fan.
I was devastated.
Fuck yeah Bernie.
I was devastated when he got bumped out of the primary.
By fucking Biden right?
I know yeah by fucking Biden.
You're telling me.
Biden looks like he smells bad.
I feel like even you might agree Bernie would be better than Joe.
Bernie would be better than Joe but I also.
No like I look back now and I'm like why the fuck did I like Bernie.
I don't like him now.
I mean I like him.
Bernie.
He's a good person.
Bernie.
He has okay ideas.
They're unimplementable.
But he's like a super old guy that's with it.
Every time I see him talk I feel like I'm watching a fucking.
Have you seen him recently though?
No now he's starting to.
He's starting to get like Joe Biden.
But he had his window.
He had his window where it wouldn't work.
He's starting to get suspended.
Even if I was on the left wing I wouldn't vote for him now.
I just like Trump when he would just go up on stage and be like you're gay.
That's what I was going to get into and for the longest time I was a Bernie fan and I
was like how the fuck are people liking this Trump guy.
He's making a mockery of the whole.
It was so fun.
Of the whole process.
And now it's like you look back and you go like Donald Trump fucking 2020 like 2016.
No 2018 right.
Hold on.
It was 2016.
But hold on.
Let me let me let me tell you my favorite Trump quote that I've ever heard.
He was going up against Ted Cruz and like a fucking debate.
You got a dog wife Ted.
That is a really good one.
But my favorite one is this goes Ted you know I've never.
He was around in California in the 1980s.
I'm not saying he's the Zodiac killer but I'm not saying he's not.
And then like everybody paused for a second.
Did you just call a political rival of a Zodiac killer.
He's like I don't know did I.
Maybe I did.
The reason Trump won and I was so confused and angry as somebody who was like passionate
about politics and knew I knew way more about politics than I even do now then.
But it was like this fucking guy came in and he just stirred the pot more than anybody
did.
He was saying but not in a good way though.
No no.
And I agree.
I agree it wasn't in a good way but to an unenviable.
No we.
It's nicotine.
OK cool.
Tobacco.
It's a tobacco vape.
Now again.
But like he just.
Oh this is good.
Everybody.
Everybody just.
This is good.
He fucking.
He.
He just was everything that nobody else was like he just would openly talk shit and you
could tell he didn't completely know what he was going on.
He was the he didn't know what he was talking about rather.
And he would just say a bunch of and he would say a bunch of lies and shit.
And ever I feel like even the uninformed voter kind of knew that it was lies to a certain
extent but every politician before him was lying to.
He was really funny.
I didn't find a single thing about it funny when the debates were going on.
But you look back at him debating Hillary Clinton.
He makes a fucking mockery of her.
It's so fun.
Like dude even even like I remember even as like fucking left wing it was like damn like
Hillary is kind of like saying things that are true but like Trump and he there's truth
to some of the shit he says but for the most part he has no fucking idea what he's talking
about.
He's being a sarcastic asshole.
Yeah but he.
But politicians have always lied since the beginning of time.
I agree.
But he he just but not to the extent he did.
He would just fucking make shit up when he was up there.
Trump would get fact check.
There was like 90 to like 120 things he would say that were just completely false every
single time.
And it was like doesn't matter.
He's funny.
And it's like you also look at Hillary and she just like.
She's a fucking lizard person.
Freaky with her pantsuit.
Like 2004 was fucking not 2000 early 2000 George Bush.
You know 9-11 happened and all the fucking liberals liked him because he like took control
of the country and they started hating him again.
No.
So for all it's all intensive purposes for all of George W Bush's faults that he had
he handled 9-11 better than I think most politicians.
I mean I would agree with that.
President would have done.
I don't.
I agree with that to a certain extent.
He invited me.
I knew it was going to happen and didn't stop it.
He started a war in the country.
The thing is the thing is like when he went to ground zero and then like fuck gave a good
he gave a really good speech which I think pushed him.
He gave a speech.
OK.
But did he kill Osama bin Laden.
Do you think you take out Al Qaeda.
He started a war in the wrong country.
But here's the thing.
I'm not saying Donald Trump would have garnered any more support than Joe Biden would.
But do you think either one of them would be able to come up with like a true fucking
rally cry for the country after 9-11 because I don't think either of them could.
I'm sure any president could have done.
I don't think so.
Honestly you would think that any president would.
But like the only presence that I think that could have been able to do that.
I think Obama could have done.
I was just about to say I think Obama could have so I think I'm just going to go through
good.
George Washington could have.
He was fucking he.
No I'm just saying like if like they were like alive today George Washington could have
done it.
Those men from across the pond shall not go unpunished for their trice.
Those things.
Blinkin could have done it very well.
FDR in honest Abe FDR would have done fantastic at it too.
Teddy Roosevelt would have fucking lost his mind because these are all people who have
led in times of conflict conflict and we know that they would have had a good.
So JFK wasn't technically a president in a time of conflict.
Well he was one of the most charismatic presidents we've ever had.
It was a Cold War Cuban Missile Crisis.
Yeah but here's the thing though I truly believe that if we were to get involved in a war which
somehow didn't fucking go nuclear if we were to go into a boots on the ground conflict
right now I think that you would see a political division of disastrous proportions because
one the Democrats or the Republicans would take the side of we need to fight this battle
and the other would oppose them.
And I just think that that's well nobody's going to support a war under Joe Biden.
Joe Biden is a poor is a very poor leader.
Nobody's going to trust him.
Yeah but that's that's exactly what I'm saying though.
I don't believe that he could deliver a speech also in front of ground zero.
Do you honor any support it would be like oh yeah fuck we are so far he just be up there
like well now you know the the the the the people from across the they they they took
down our town.
We're not going to let work.
I think it was a testament to the unity of our country.
When you had George Bush that started the war and you had fucking Obama that took Osama
out and they both fucking did what they had to do there and like oh like I get chills
when you watch the fucking Obama like we got we got him.
We got him.
Fuck yeah.
He's fucking dead.
And then they're like oh yeah.
And his body doesn't exist.
We have no pictures of it and we dumped him at sea and it's like huh.
Even though I believe he's dead but still there's always like a huh.
You know the guy that could not like Moammar Gaddafi got killed like a year before that
and you would see like his fucking death video on CNN stabbing him in the ass ragdolling
his body on public television.
You're telling me we just fucking took out Osama and that she gets no air time other
than like Osama bin Laden has been killed.
We think he's alive.
No he's hanging out with Tupac and Hitler.
What's going on.
I think any any president could have done that except Biden because you know who's going
to trust an 82 year old demented guy.
But you ever see the when they kill Osama bin Laden the guy who killed him his name
was O'Neill.
His last name O'Neill and he like Casey's brother.
He was talking about how he like shot Osama bin Laden in the face and shit but people
are saying that he made all this shit up and that he wasn't actually the one who did it.
The burial at sea thing that we did though was.
We did everything we could to make it with the Muslim belief too.
No we did it as a disrespect to the Muslim belief.
Well no we did it so maybe burying him at sea but we at least say on paper that we
offered him like the prayer that they give or whatever.
We did the Muslim belief you need to be buried in the ground to my knowledge.
You cannot go into sea.
Your soul apparently can't reach.
I'm not going to pretend like I know what I'm saying but like his outcome was a lot
shittier than if we buried him properly.
So we fucked him over and even in death.
Well I mean he did fucking orchestrate those kind of shitties.
Don't get me wrong he deserved it.
I just think it's funny.
I'm not saying anybody should go to hell but if you got to fucking send someone.
But don't you think Muslims would be a little.
I'm not going to say who cares because I think that most of the people in that whole conflict.
It's like when you ever see I remember when extremists when Britain took over India in
the eighteen hundreds and they made the soldiers they had Hindu and Muslim soldiers and they
laced the bullet.
They're the bullet casings with pork and beef like extract or whatever.
So they would have to lick the shell casings and they and for the Muslims and the Hindus
they buy now they both don't like pork or beef.
Yeah.
So I mean what are the others.
So they like did that.
But it's kind of the same thing.
But damn let me just say fuck.
No I don't know if I should go down this rabbit hole.
I don't want to be throwing names out there that I shouldn't.
Let me just say I have a co-worker who is very deep in the in the Sikh belief and every
time I I think you two could probably figure out who I'm talking about.
I'm not going to say his name.
But I've had some like very in-depth conversations with him.
Seek like the Sikh way of thinking honestly kind of makes sense to me.
Right.
I'm thinking about this week because I keep getting tick tock videos recommended me that
are just Muslim creatures.
I don't know why.
That seems kind of sexy.
I don't know why.
I didn't look at it.
That seems kind of sketchy.
Well I don't have anything pop up on my phone for him.
But I was having a conversation with him because the big thing I mean you guys fucking know
me fucking quantum physicist.
I was like I was like what do they what do they say about the universe.
And he's like oh well since the beginning we kind of didn't really know anything for
sure.
So we just sort of were like.
Yeah their beliefs make more sense than the fucking Christian beliefs.
What's that?
I'm OK.
I'm not trying to make this an anti-Christian thing.
I was just going to say I know you are.
I know you are.
We'll get to that.
I just have one thing to say.
In case you will take anything to make it anti-Christian.
I don't take anything to make it pro-Christian.
It's just like they believe.
It's just like nah man everything's one.
Like we kind of believe in reincarnation.
It gets a little bit complicated there.
And I was like well what do they think about like the universe.
What do they think about the multiverse.
Like what do they think.
It's like well we're all just sort of one being.
Like your feelings, the planet, like not necessarily inanimate objects but like life and everything
like matter.
We're all one.
And like you don't reach enlightenment until you can truly comprehend that.
Like you truly comprehend that you can reach like essentially their version of heaven.
And it's like that kind of makes sense to me.
You get reincarnated.
If you're a really shitty person you might be an ant or some shit.
I don't fucking know.
I believe in reincarnation.
There's actually in the fucking Buddhist thing.
I think if you get reincarnated as an animal you're in like an endless cycle as an animal.
The Buddhists don't believe that.
It's one of them.
That's not a Buddhist belief.
It's not Hindu.
Hindu if you're a shitty person you will go down.
Like they have the whole caste system and stuff.
Or like they greatly, greatly respect cows because they believe that they are higher
than people.
But you can be a fucking slime ball of a human being and you'll be an ant until you become
a better person and work your way back up the ladder to human and cow.
And then there's like diva above human.
Well the cows are their dead ancestors.
Oh well never mind.
You know that.
Regardless they're viewed as higher than humans.
They respect the cows greatly.
Cows are fucking scary man.
Hindus believe that they reach enlightenment.
To my knowledge right?
That's like the heaven for them.
I think there's a light.
Eastern religion is super selfish.
I know that's like a Buddhism thing.
If you get enough karma you can reach enlightenment.
But dude like from my point of view and I'm not even trying to start an anti-Christian
thing but for me I think Christianity is very self-centered.
So how would you say it's self-centered?
It's because we just and like dude you can say everything that has been proved wrong
in the Bible is metaphorical and stuff but regardless time and time again with science
they've been proved wrong and they just genuinely believe that Earth like we're it.
Like we're the big dogs here and like Jesus came here.
God the one who created everything is right here on Earth.
I think that's extremely selfish.
We're one planet in this fucking universe and we think we're special.
You're truly telling me you don't believe that there's life on Earth.
You're the space guy so you think that there's shit out there.
We don't fucking know but like if there was certain value back if there was shit that
was actually that fucking intelligent out there or there was shit that was that fucking
important.
You're telling me that our universe is infinite and we do not have any other life.
There is only life on Earth.
That just seems ridiculous.
How many plants have we fucking discovered like billions trillions.
How many more gets in once you get far enough away billions.
How many how many have we billions bro it's fucking and out of all of those out of all
those trillions there's only been like how many that they found that could maybe support
life.
No that's what we believe can support life and even then I'm not trying to I don't want
to go down the same rabbit hole here because we already argued about this and I'm not going
to go too far in depth here.
But Tyler the belief right now and Casey this was a misunderstanding on your part too.
What the fuck is this?
Is the big no I'm not I'm going to fucking go down this route here.
We took them.
Regardless imagine infinite planets infinite galaxies there is no end to them.
There is infinite possibility within that which is hard to wrap your mind around but
I think it's just I think it might be and it's a kind of a grim outlook but I believe
it.
Don't.
All right well I'm not going to I'm not going to go too far down the quantum mechanics.
I'll bring that up later once Dan gets here because Dan likes listening to me about that.
Tyler does.
I know Tyler fucking hates it but I'll keep this quick.
Dan hasn't even responded to us.
I don't even know if he's coming today.
He never does he just shows up.
But I'm not.
It is Dan O'Clock so.
It is.
He should be here soon.
I'm not I'm not going to go super off the fucking rails here or anything but imagine
you have infinite planets and I know you might necessarily disagree with that.
There's life that is bound to be.
Yeah like that's infinite possibility.
It's hard to wrap your mind around but you also have no possibility.
This is a thing that I'm that I like.
Okay so there's other stuff too.
The last one I wanted to make before before I wanted to hear your response.
This is the last thing I swear to God.
You with the size of the universe it might just not be possible.
But what about this?
We don't have time though because there's only what the fuck are you talking about.
No no it makes sense.
But humans or or beings can only survive in civilizations or a certain amount of like
for thousands of years.
We're blips.
So we're going to kill ourselves.
It could be existing for billions exactly.
It could be twenty thousand years from now.
But eventually some shit's going to happen here where we fucking wipe ourselves out.
I just believe that.
So I think that that's the solution to the Fermi paradox is that unfortunately we've
never had an intelligent life form that has been able to go long enough to project some
sort of signal that we can't comprehend or that would make it to us that we can't detect.
And I think that we just fucking kill ourselves too quick.
And it's with how the universe is infinite you're never going to see the signals because
of how vast it is.
I think it is extremely extremely extremely rare to have living beings on a planet.
But I think that there might not be life until past our observable universe.
Or like it gets that rare.
So that's that's this is what I'm like.
I'm not saying that there couldn't be life on other planets.
But let's just see how rare human like intelligence is.
But that's the thing.
That's that's this.
It's infinite.
Let me finish.
OK.
So if you look at all of our planet and how many animals there are there's only one animal
on the planet that got our intelligence which is us.
There's only one creature on this planet that has the ability to make these fucking microphones
in front of us or all this shit.
There's an out of how many things on this planet that there are how many different animals
and different species there are that only one got to the point that we did.
That's because of evolution.
But that's that's that's what I'm trying to get at.
Like we got to this point.
You believe in evolution.
Yes.
You believe that they're like good.
So you believe in Adam and Eve creative evolution.
Adam and Eve even I think was a metaphor when it was written.
I don't think that that should actually.
So the whole thing with that I don't think they thought I was trying to get to is that
if the intelligence gene that we did that we like developed is so rare on earth even
if there's life on other planets how fucking rare would it be on other planets to have
an intelligence like ours because yeah there could be life on other planets but it could
be like space deer and shit like that.
Life is extremely if there's one thing Earth has proved in its history life is extremely
resilient.
I understand that but like like a fucking meteor wiped out all the large life forms
that lived on the surface of our planet and we still had the ocean and the microorganisms
to make up for that and branch back out onto land again to make us.
If human like intelligence was viable besides what we have here why wouldn't every single
animal have human like intelligence because we've evolved to be better than them and we're
able to domesticate but it's like sure if we if we got to the if we're if if human like
intelligence and I'm not like trying like to put down humanity and stuff I'm just saying
like if human like intelligence is in fact the best thing that an animal could get to
why have I think it is why hasn't like why why do more animals develop into stronger
predators or strong or faster running and shit instead of intelligence.
So I have a really good answer to that.
You look at our planet you have orangutans and apes and stuff and yes while they might
not be as smart as us they exhibit extreme intelligence on like an evolutionary scale
and on a planet scale they do you have things like beluga whales that are incredibly smart
not not beluga whales fucking dolphins.
You know those are rapists of the sea.
Yes they are but they're extremely intelligent and in a blip like it's a blip in the length
of our universe but if we weren't here you give those and even if somehow we don't fucking
wipe ourselves out and I'll get to that we were to somehow exist and not destroy our
entire planet and make it really fucking hard and just reset ourselves to the point where
we need to let evolution take its course until we get good again like the meteor did with
the dinosaurs until we got back to where we are now but I think that if you if we didn't
exist the apes in a million years not not even a million that that's that's way too
fucking long you give them a hundred thousand years fifty thousand years they're going to
be forming civilizations they're going to have their own versions of Mesopotamia they're
going to have their own versions of Ur and shit like that because we like that meteor
set us back hard.
We have like other humanoid species that were evolving to be intelligent like hominids neanderthals
yeah we wiped them out did you ever hear that we were left as the only well we still have
neanderthal some of us still have neanderthal blood in us we believe that there was cross
breeding in between there to a certain extent did you did you guys ever hear the great reset
theory no I'm assuming is where we wipe the fucking planet out and then over and over
and over again to the point where we erase our own civilization over and over again I
think that's truthful but I think it occurs infinitely more times throughout the universe
but the thing is we constantly get to the point where we get to a point where technology
gets to be so advanced and stuff we get nukes that we eventually wipe out our entire civilization
and then reset from the beginning yeah and then it just keeps happening over and over
again so I agree with that but there are many I do because there's there's um I think that's
the solution there's documented things where in dinosaur bones there's things that look
like microchips and shit like that's been like like proven and shit that there's like
they're like we don't know what the fuck that is but when you look at it it looks like it's
a fucking microchip yeah it's like you'll see like squares and rectangles that look
just a little bit too perfect and I have like the little like fucking like but we have no
evidence that it that's a microchip it is a theory but then you also look at like civilizations
that you find like ruins and stuff where they're like this is too advanced for the time period
that they had like type thing like the like Mesopotamian stuff like with like the stone
carving that they had like it shouldn't have been that far advanced it's like well what
if it wasn't even them that did it what if it was this civilization previous to them
and then they just rediscovered it well I'm not I'm not gonna pretend like I know the
science behind it but for the most part when we find I like I do agree with you I agree
with this theory and I truly do believe it but I think that it's a little bit deeper
than that it's just been so much time since there was another reigning intelligent civilization
on this planet that the evidence he looked at it and did it fucking response that piece
he's caught do I'm telling you he's got to be in the car right over here but I just I
think that does happen but I think that it's just this this happened so long ago the fossils
for this stuff no longer exists so do you think this civilization no longer exists so
do you think there's a point in human civilization where it literally is the end point where
every single time we get to it we have to reset it type thing because this is this is
this is no you're gonna go down the mass effect road here with the reaper we'd still know
actually I'm not like I was gonna that is what the read that is yeah that is on a galactic
scale but like there's a show Devilman crybaby on Netflix it's actually pretty good it's
a pretty good animal instead of a chainsaw man but like like at the end of the at the
end the series humanity destroys itself because the the in show lucifer like manipulates the
world like his final goal is to get everyone to destroy themselves but at the end God destroys
the earth and then makes another earth pretty much to reset the whole thing and he's just
then like God's God's plan in that one is to keep resetting the earth until we get to
the point where we're not gonna destroy ourselves like we keep going through the same thing
over and over and over again until we get to a point where it's like like and God keeps
on resetting the earth to the point where it's gonna I get what he's saying and God
God remakes the earth again why does it have to be God though why it can't just happen
on it doesn't have to be fucking God but that's in the show I'm literally describing what
happens in the show I'm not saying this is my fucking theory Casey I gotta have Tyler's
back here he's describing a fucking show yeah he's telling the plot of his show and you're
critiquing him as if it's a belief I'm just saying it's an interesting theory thing no
it is yeah but like God keeps on destroying the earth because lucifer is literally like
the embodiment of lucifer is the main bad guy in the show and he keeps on getting the
earth to destroy itself but every time that the earth destroys itself it just resets and
God literally starts from the fucking like dinosaurs I get what you're saying and then
keeps it going and like this is the weird part about the show is that every time that
the earth destroys itself it turns into another moon which which was really weird but like
the like we're on the name of this one devil man crybaby can you please text me that because
I I'm gonna forget I actually kind of want to watch this one sounds pretty cool it's
weird at the beginning I'm gonna be a weeb the next time I come in yeah I'll come in
with my little my shaker bottle with a titty girl it's weird at the beginning like it like
it's like you're gonna have to get past the weird parts at the beginning that's fine no
I know what to expect with a fucking anime but Tyler I feel like we're finding common
ground here so I would say I believe I mean obviously outside the weird shit but so finish
your point finish so basically with that is in that show we're already on our second run
through that's why we already have the moon so the third run through would be we have
two moons and like basically Tatooine baby yeah two moons so basically like God destroys
the earth because the devil took it over and like the devil is always just like and he
like the devil doesn't remember because God like erases the devil and then makes a new
devil for the next earth but the devil always does the same fucking thing every single time
but when um when he like when the devil like finally looks out and he looks out at like
the earth like that's like destroyed he's just like I can never win and like type thing
being like God is always gonna figure out a way to win even if it's destroyed the earth
and start new he's he's not gonna let the devil win type thing so Tyler I feel like
I agree with some of the stuff from that show I've met of you could honestly even say in
this instance I agree with that metaphorically obviously it's stuff of the moons and stuff
yeah that doesn't make sense but but it's it's a storytelling point and I'll buy into
that shit like that can be cool if it's a fucking show or a book or something but when
I believe that earth not earth but the infinite possibilities of life on planets eventually
given enough time without some catastrophic event where a fucking meteor strikes stuff
and we fucking die or like a solar flare wipes out all everything I think that given enough
time there has been countless civilizations that we believe to be intelligent like ourselves
but I think we get around to the point where we're at or and I'd even venture because time
is a fickle thing when we think about we think like oh we're in 2023 nothing really happened
before the year of our Lord no no I'm not I'm not gonna go down the time is relative
theory we're talking one planet we're all exhibiting the same gravity time's moving
just as fast for all of us well but technically if you're in a plane or traveling very fast
it is moving at a ridiculously yes yes technically you are moving at a different time than I
am just sitting there but it's such an ass you just gotta start vibrating real fucking
fast oh you mean because of your you're in a different position than me you just that
miniscule you could be a couple nano I'm talking about time though I know but that gravity
dictates time you have to be traveling in order to okay no we're getting way too off
topic for this this is gonna be where I can't get into arguments like this because I can't
describe that on a level that's like easily understandable regardless I think I think
that we get civilizations that get essentially to the level where we're at I think we get
to levels where we get essentially where we're at even if you get like 10,000 years further
somehow we don't fucking kill ourselves I don't believe that we wipe all life off even
if we branch into the solar system I believe that a weapon is going to be developed by
a society like that and eventually a fuckup a war something is gonna happen where we wipe
out all then this is a keyword here intelligent life you get your microorganisms and shit
that are on all these planets and they they fucking blossom up over hundreds and hundreds
and millions of years that can become intelligent life like us I just think that that's so long
ago that it's hard to see the evidence of that but but before I get off this I just
want to I just kind of want to give some evidence to back this a little bit I don't even know
what the fuck we're talking about I know you don't I know you don't but when we life so
it's tough because planets as we understand science as it is right now planets that can
make life on their own are incredibly rare planets that can inhabit life and microorganisms
and stuff aren't as rare as you think they would be we have a classification for planets
and moons and stuff like when Voyager one flew by it wasn't Titan it was the IO IO
it's a literally the letters I oh moon of Jupiter we were very hesitant to get too close
to it with Voyager one because we thought that there was the potential that some organic
cell could fall off of Voyager one land on the surface of the planet and wreck any sort
of like Spider-Man 3 any any sort of life in a symbiote we smoke it's in bio that's
what I venom I feel like I'm fucking smoking symbiote here but regardless life inhabiting
plants like life is like I said life is extremely resilient humans we're fucking wimps we're
conditioned for earth we can't go other places unless we have technology to back us up and
the plants that we can land on are incredibly fucking rare and it distorts our perception
of where life could occur life can occur in a lot of places life can't be created in a
lot of places and we can exist practically nowhere other than earth can we create life
though do you know how life was microorganisms were created no well I do to a certain extent
they believe it's a certain gas composition oh you got to hop in here we get can we get
a guest oh shit we almost had one of the best guests on the podcast of all time I said it
to you like the actual link to the fucking show so but yeah but do you do you guess do
you disagree or what's your comments of what I'm saying I feel like I give you feedback
on yours I want to hear what you think about what I'm saying here I think that like do
you believe that to be possible and if not why like I don't think that human like intelligence
is pretty much the thing that we're going for I think that it depends on how you define
intelligent life I think that comes down to the only life that would be out there is ancient
humans that actually got off the planet so somehow let me ask you this do you believe
that there is only life on earth it's a loaded question it's not it's do you think it's a
hard one by life by life do you mean intelligent human life or like microbes level dude dude
I don't I just want to hear your response I think I think the way I ask the question
is good just explain your it's it's I think that there's microbes on other planets I think
that there might be like I just use space deer as an example like the level of intelligence
that's out there like I think like there could be like space deer or space bears and shit
I just don't think the human human intelligence was so rare on our planet and so many insane
things had to happen in the exact right row of things to happen for human intelligence
to happen that it like human human like intelligence shouldn't is ever got a right and no because
there's something I want to have evolutionarily why I don't want to cut you off doesn't make
sense like the like if we didn't make weapons and shit humans would have been wiped off
by like fucking bears and shit because we wouldn't be able to fight a fucking bear do
you think you'd be able to fight a bear with your fucking bear hands but you can fight
them you can fight a bear with a prehistoric weapon like a spear I mean you can you could
maybe kill it I mean they did do that so so the way natives killed bears with spears
and shit yeah and arrows they did arrows yeah they did it was it was we use technology
but if we had our fucking hands I couldn't choke a bear to death no no and that's why
we succeeded and that's why evolution rewarded us so so the the best way because I got myself
tripped up and I was like how I think we got cheated evolution too so so here's here's
what I was gonna say and I think it's why humans ended up where we are is you have all
right let me let me try to describe this the easiest way I can so imagine our life form
right we start in this just imagine like a small pixel in a Minecraft world right and
we're in the deepest deepest ocean of where we could be in the in the deepest ocean of
that Minecraft world we are that the lowest point so the way evolution works is that that
single oh Jesus Christ that single pixel Tyler I don't want to lose you on this I want to
hear you okay okay I want you to hear this because I feel like we can have a good dialogue
but that single point in the deepest pit just the pits metal the pit is metaphorical but
that that one pit that one spot we branch off from a couple different times and they
all start traveling up their different way and they keep going as high as they can go
all right that represents evolution so you have some that advanced super high those are
your apex predators your fucking your lions your Panthers your fucking hawks owls your
whales like nobody's fucking with those guys evolution gave them the tools of what they
had to had to win all these other different branches they go out and they reach points
that are kind of high they're not fucking amazing but they're kind of high those are
your ants those are your fucking octopus yeah octopus that's actually a good example
they're middle of the road and then you have your ones that don't really work you got your
dodo bird you got your wooly mammoth which kind of got fucked by us but regardless their
evolutionary pathway they reach their mountain peak and once you reach that peak you can't
get any higher now imagine that humans we climbed a mountain that somehow went into
space and once you get into space we become intelligent we become sentient we're able
to think for ourselves we're able to learn and it seems like alimath becomes sunny at
least past few episodes i know but i'm just saying i am high bro i'm incredibly high right
now i smoke more than i usually do i'm telling you this adderall is just hitting me diffy
lately same same dose same bottle that wasn't working two weeks ago i'm fucking like wired
but it actually is like stacking yeah but but but regardless i mean i've been on it
for months i was on it years ago and nothing like this happened but regardless you reach
this point where once once you climb a mountain high enough you reach a level you reach a
level where you become sentient self-aware you're able to understand at least to a certain
extent holy fuck i am living in a universe i want to learn i want to make civilization
and shit and i think once you reach that point evolution can continue everybody else reaches
their mountain peak they die off humans they made it to a mountain peak that was in space
all right we got dan here dan motherfucker i wish you were listening to what i was saying
beforehand listen let's welcome dan the vitamin man regardless i just think i think once you
reach a certain level of intelligence evolution evolution stalls out for most people well
most species i think that as humans we reached a level where we become self-intelligent we
were able to control the environment we're in on earth and we were able to continue further
than we otherwise would i think you're semi on the right track i think pretty much humans
got cheat code with tools once once humans figured out how to use tools we kind of had
a cheat code in evolution and we kind of broke this system of evolution so that's what i'm
saying that's like that space barrier i'm talking about what made us break that is what
i'm questioning that's what i'm saying i think that what that that barrier right there that's
what i describe as sentience the sentience barrier what made us break that we became
intelligent enough we know but like what for what what what guided us to become that intelligent
evolution we got lucky did we so so what a divine intervention no so so and in argument
an argument can be made for that but i think when when my when i think of my belief in
higher power i don't think of it as us breaching that gap i think of it as creation i think
that this whole universe it had to have been created by something whether it be a god whether
it just be some random fucking thing i i believe in god as a concept i don't believe it as a
being it's i i think that there was nothing prison it's so obvious that it's a goddamn
prison what are you talking about earth is a okay fucking prison okay so we're going
down to alex jones prison planet route because i can do that too so i'm going to summarize
what i just said in the last 30 minutes and 30 seconds earth he could have just done that
before no no it wouldn't make sense if you put this kind of effort into learning the
founding fathers you'd be you'd be extraordinary i don't fucking know okay that's your fucking
answer all right i don't fucking know regardless let dan let me just say so what we were going
down the road is um way to change the subject shit we talked about so much i don't even
already jump in i don't know what how you answer to this do you know how the first life on earth
was created like the first mic oh god okay so i'm not going to go super in depth because i'm not
going to pretend i know stuff that i don't but it was the correct composition of gases and it was
the correct composition of pressure and temperature yeah because the ocean was so hot yes yes and it
was also primarily methane but when you have organic chemicals which occur naturally throughout
the universe we know that i'm not going to pretend like i know how we know that but we do know that
organic because carbon exists in every planet yes sorry organic organic elements exist yeah on
they're not uncommon they exist all over the place and we think that it was just just the right
correct conditions where something happened with that organic element it was but it happened like
millions of times yes yes and it took millions of years in that environment to finally blossom
some sort of single-celled organism right that you could actually consider to call life and then
from there evolution took over and a lot of luck happened so when you have this infinite universe
i believe that your solution to the family paradox is that life is ridiculously uncommon
intelligent life even more uncommon there's so much shit the universe is a joke there somewhere
dude i'm intelligent i haven't quite put it together yet so here's the way i see that dan
all right i'd rather have my i'd rather have all my eggs in the basket that i do i'd rather have
all my eggs in the basket of knowing what the fuck is going on to the biggest picture i'm able to
than know about my fucking country's history of the last minuscule little tiny little minuscule
little fucking atom of time i don't give a fuck who's on the mountain in 30 000 years that mountain
will not be standing the universe will be oh fuck at thanksgiving dinner my girlfriend's dad
he's just like a sheet metal worker he's like drinking a beer and he's like uh we're i was
telling him about uh how we always test alimak on who's on mount rushmore and he just like taking
he just popped them off all four of them right away he's just like he's just like a regular like
blue collar guy dot approved dot approved yeah see i could learn something from him yeah yeah
i feel like it's pretty common knowledge yeah what's common knowledge who's on mount rushmore
yeah it is a comment to your average average fucking brainwashed citizen i'm just joking dude
i don't most people 90% of people wouldn't be able to tell you not to get sidetracked here alibak well
90% of the people at this table can tell you who gives a fuck bro you want to talk to me about
quantum mechanics we'll tell you who the fuck's on the quantum mechanics mount rushmore
oh i think uh who's that dude with the lightning and the key and the kite and shit oh
we all got our specialties mine is not us history we all fucking know that let's get that out of the
way now alimak all right not to uh get sidetracked here but that was a hell of a rant that was an a
plus rant dude it's caffeine oh my god i'm still holding it i was just joking i was totally
dan dan i know you're joking right and but my response dude i got like like i'm nobody to say
like anybody doesn't know anything i'm literally surprised i made it here i'm surprised i've made
it have what episode is this 56 i'm surprised i have not got lost 56 times exactly able to make
it no no you're you're a smart man dan dan i have some trouble sometimes so who's on mount
rushmore dan tell me uh let's see it's abe lincoln george washington now are you teddy
roosevelt and thomas jefferson that's correct
all right good jamey is playing the game because i was listening to some of our older episodes
where it was still who wants to be a millionaire with alimak and a lot of the times you would be
like i know this alimak like jeez christ and then i'd say something to be like oh shit i thought
that was him too and i'd get it wrong and i'd be like fuck you tyler it's like motherfucker and it
would be early u.s history too look i'm just saying i know i don't know shit about that but
i'd rather see big picture than small picture i see i see our planet as small picture i think
bigger than that what about this all right this is something i want to talk about this week that
sounded really egotistic people need to know what happened on earth i just don't find interest in
that i want to know the stars so here's something that i learned about this week sprunk topas do
you ever hear of a topa i thought we talked about topas we did that we talked about topas are
fucking old news bro alimak's drinking tonight he's got to think this will be right back topas topas
are fucking real skey oh i can think of fucking being into existence and then it can come to
real life man i can think of a fucking it's myself what is it a topa it's some it's a being another
being besides you that lives inside your body oh inside your head so it can come into real life
too yeah so you can like switch in and out like say i've got this other person in my head they
can like come in it's kind of like um borderline personality disorder or multiple personality
disorder except it's like a reddit thing people are like oh my topa my topa i can talk to my topa
the government wants me to use my topa to fucking do this shit man i'm so fucking crazy
i'm out of my fucking losing my marbles that's creepy people like i'm not good at chess but my
topa is let me get him all right guys so we're gonna try and convince alimak that we've been
getting paid by spotify and we just like 50 bucks each a month and he's the only one who hasn't
i'd be like hey casey did the spotify checks come in and we'll be like oh we've casey's just
been spending it on equipment but the last 30 episodes we began to cut yeah yeah like we got
a i mean we signed the contracts when he was fucking that's too much that's too much it's like ad
revenue over tenants i mean yeah it's a decent ad revenue we have i didn't know about that
not revenue yeah revenue like profit dude we've gotten ads on our fucking thing that means that
we've gotten ad revenue how will we not whatever no no we have an ad for our show that you have
to pay for ad to put an ad you don't get money for it i paid for my ads what you're saying ads
have been popping up yeah while you're watching the so that means that we should be on spotify
yeah it's weird i don't get any ads if you if you watch for long enough like it's like do you have
spotify premium no no that's probably why yeah if this was if this was spotify is making money off
of our show by putting ads on it and we're not getting a cut well maybe there's an account you
have to check well no if you have a few checks and there's like 30 grand today well no if you
have premium then you don't have to pay uh then you don't have to listen to ads but i'm saying
if you have what you put sand in here not water yeah you're supposed to put water no sand is
heavier whatever it would fall right over with water i put water in it it fell right over no it
didn't it did where i punched it i got a hard punch there my friend you want to test it out
yeah so we're back on the tyler so when do we get when do you give us our next spotify checks
i don't know like i was saying like um the next spotify checks yeah we've been getting 50 bucks
a piece of money yeah because the the ads that you're listening to if you if you don't have
premium right they play ads and they fucking make money off of it so we should be we should
like you're gonna get more we should be millionaires is what you're telling me no we should be getting
more but yeah 50 bucks a month isn't bad it's not bad i'm not gonna complain about that i mean i was
looking at the numbers 50 bucks seems ridiculous for us i don't i don't think we'd even be making
that why is that ridiculous because we don't get that many listens yeah we do we get we get a few
thousand yeah no each of us has been getting 50 a month well i've just been using it for like
equipment and shit but that's the last 20 episodes we've been getting because we had enough we don't
need anything else it's also like the constant upload schedule and it meets and we have the
listening we gotta get a pod house yeah we'll buy that abandoned church we gotta get a pod house bro
to the studio get a real studio get a real studio i wanted to buy that abandoned church and make it
into i'll go home to cc babe i love you i know we said we were gonna get our own place um you can
stay in the apartment um we're gonna do untitled i'm gonna move in in the pod house and my room's
kind of small i live in the bell tower next time i get a check from spotify i'm buying some uh
good equipment i'll buy some lights do we could do like a boom we could do like we could do like
a camera like like what i was saying we could do like a camera on that side but then you would
have to sit over there and you'd have to sit over there so we could do like kind of like a camera
that like kind of sits up there and like pans down at us you look like the fucking supreme court
i'll forfeit my 50 bucks this month for more equipment yeah i'm down with that
yeah dude we could actually use that for i've been doing pretty good with mine
we could use that 50 bucks for the budget what you've been buying with your profit
uh fucking i don't know what is that so i know y'all fucking with me right now just saying now
i'm not humoring it but i know you're fucking with me
like just so we can nip that in the bud i know you're fucking with me when you walked away everyone
i well i said to casey earlier i'm like we gotta convince ali mac that we've all been getting paid
at no point did i ever believe it spotify actually gives us 100 bucks every 100 plays so
so no that's way too much money dude i literally looked at it wouldn't make any money so you might
have caught me gullible enough to believe that like i should wait until you drink but he's saying
he gets fucking ads on his podcast show yeah i want some of that money i want some of that ad
revenue yeah bro not what's up spotify fucking come at me casey we don't pop up in algorithms
or anything either we have no profile we're number two which don't get me wrong we're number i like
that me too i don't i like dude if this ever ever were to blow up i would be fucking mortified
like i don't have the recall to remember the shit i've said on this because i
know i am under the influence i know i know some of the worst things that have been said
well you know what the one of them one of them is somebody said i'm not gonna name names but
somebody said that a certain group of people can't swim that's probably that probably tops
the list i wonder who that was and i wonder what that group of people was i was going to publish
ambulance sessions but i was like going back and like the shit that we said back then is not good
oh dude well five years ago it was a different time yeah it was like yeah you he fucking you i
mean you played some bits of it for me yeah i never like went in depth and listened to it
back then it was like you could be gay and it was like it meant something it's not like now it's
just like it's meaningless it's like back then you could say you could say some off-color stuff
five years ago dude times have changed i gotta watch what i was gonna say i almost said some
shit that would have got us cancelled you fucking put a happy dad seltzer nally max hands and he
fucking wants to never mind you take your horny pills today yeah i'm just i'm just the fuck up
on vitamins bro i was like on the way over i was listening to like youtube videos about other
vitamins i want to try i'm a vitamin addict bro i am like at the point where it's just like i'm
like i was pulling up to the um where you come off at 87 onto uh uh the latham exit and i was
like i think i might need an intervention dude i'm pretty sure like it's getting to the point
what's the intervention for you so this is just an important thing that happened the fucking
granted dot o six has got announced it did and i that piss me off because they're like oh it's
coming in 2025 let's wait another year and a half yeah fucking gta5 fucking released their trailer
and it was an even longer wait everybody's like oh how it's like everybody fucking forgot that
sometimes video games get announced a while before you know cyberpunk 2077 was announced
2012 yes really yes yeah they released a fucking like concept trailer in 2012
and it didn't come out till 2020 wow they made they made like a super nice cgi trailer and they
just showed the tiniest little framework of what they were going to make they didn't even know what
they were building yet they just knew like all right we're gonna do like a cyberpunk setup and
it's gonna be open world and we'll catch you guys in fucking 10 actually was it 21 or was it 20 when
it came out uh i think it was 21 21 yeah i'll i'll i'll look at it because i think the joke was
because the original cyberpunk series was set in 2020 so they're like we're gonna get cyberpunk
after when the original cyberpunk was supposed to take place yeah wow that's that's crazy dude
because like uh mike mike ponesmith i think his name was um he created it in the 1980s like he
created like oh shit no you're right oh well it's so close it's december 10th 2020 yeah yeah but
like they announced it in 2012 i was in middle school when they announced that yeah i was in
college it's fucking crazy like i remember fallout 4 it came out like almost a year and a half
afterwards and i remember being in my fucking math class with mr mice louick fuck you by the way
fuck him and uh actually i told the story about the kid who fucking made the super conducting
magnet and plugged it in and it caused an explosion oh yeah that was in that guy's class but
my buddy and me my buddy and me noah fucking looked at our phones and it was like the
fucking fall yeah it was fallout 4 announced and it was like bro brother let's watch it and he's
like get off your phones we're like let's watch the trailer first we were blown the fuck away
and it was a decent game but it was like a year and a half wait though that used to be normal
the thing is like it's not even like like people are like oh it's 2025 i'm like guys do you do
realize that 2024 is in like a week yeah like yeah but we've been waiting 11 years for this game
so i i think that they diverted a lot of resources from gta not only just red dead 2
but they diverted a ton of resources from the gta 6 project it would have came out a lot longer if
we didn't keep feeding them money for gta online that has been a cash cow for over a decade now
for them like why would they stop so i actually than they ever would so if you actually look at
the release schedule of rockstar games there was i'm just gonna start gta it's a no-brainer if you're
no i'm just gonna i'm just gonna start it's gta 4 because there was gta 4 which came out in 2008 there was red dead redemption which came out in 2010
there was grand theft auto 5 which came out in 2013 and that's where the end of the golden era of gaming
ends at least for me and then red dead redemption 2 came out everything got shitty after that 19 2018
and then red and then uh grand theft auto 6 is coming out in 25 so if you're like looking at it
it's uh it's like three years four years five years then this is gonna be seven years it's like like
between like releases from rocks like big releases from rockstar games yeah like takes a while it
doesn't but like people are like oh my god it's been like 10 years it's like well it's been 10 years
but also you've gotten red dead redemption 2 you've gotten dlc for like who the fuck cares about dlc's
but what's the name of their publisher it's like take one or take two interactive take two interactive
and it's the the shitty thing is is like honestly red dead 2 that was like the last dying breath of
gaming it was one of the last games that like a shitload of effort was truly put into and it
released a complete product that was fucking really good nintendo does that shit all the time
boulders gate 3 yeah but no you're right there's still the rare anomaly like boulders gate but for
the most part the games that come out now they're either broken or they're poorly thought through
because there's fucking there's nothing else to buy i got our shit now i got boulders gate 3 in
september and i've put 320 hours i don't think i'll ever be able to play a game like that deep
again like i think i've just had more time available to me so i was able to really do a deep
playthrough of like fallout new vegas or something i don't think i could go balls to the wall for
like a whole season playing a game dude that's why i'm not gonna get gta 6 because i just can't get
that invested in the game you know it's like until it comes out and you're like
yeah i'm just gonna take a brief hiatus from the podcast for gta 6 dude i literally i'll play it
for 12 16 hours a day like it's bad it's fucking real bad like what joe rogan said like he doesn't
play video games because they're too fun right it's a bro it's endless even gta 5 there's still
shit i can walk around in gta like i play it while i'm on the treadmill now right so it's like you
play gta 5 on a treadmill yeah so it's like how do you do that because i kind of have to like
you can justify yeah right like you like hold the controller while you're while you're walking i
i just like rarely yeah it's a pain in the ass especially when you're flying because you like
lose your balance sometimes i fall off but it's like it's really hard for me to just sit down and
play because i start feeling like guilty i'm like he's got to be a god at multitasking i'm like i
got that's insane i don't know if i could play a game like if you guys me and casey to play rocket
league while we're on a fucking treadmill you forget well we play it when we don't even pay
attention to it yeah because you're used to it though yeah you get so used to it you forget you
were walking that's insane but um that's that's genuinely impressive dude i mean when i'm at the
gym and i'm like give yourself credit for being drunk and high and winning a game i get distracted
when fucking fox news comes on i'm like i'm usually drunk yeah and i'm like fucking walking
on treadmill i'm like oh fuck and i just trip up i'm usually gta 5 is still so in depth that i find
something new every time i play that game dude i'm playing gta 4 currently dude there's right but
that's the thing i'm like dude i'm playing gta 4 i'm like holy shit i didn't even fucking know
this area of the map existed right like it's never ending no like dude i was like i'm just
gonna walk down the street in first person mode and just like look look up things i find you know
and there's like missing animal posters on yeah on the light poles and one's like uh found found uh
dog right and it shows a picture of the dog it's a fucking wolf it's like call this number if like
you're missing this dog just like funny shit like that it's so detailed you'd be so entertained for
like just hours just walking down the street dude six looks fucking nuts it looks way
more in depth than five and five was super in depth right and i'm like bro um i'm like
thing is with my my job my new one i'm gonna have a lot of free time so i'm like i might be able to
put some hours into that dude i'm just i'm just so scared of investing all my hope in so rockstar
has like revived the gaming series with with gta so so they never done it wrong everybody well not
everybody but part of me was thinking part of me was thinking actually no i i take that back i was
not thinking that gta 5 was gonna be shitty because that was in the time where it was like oh it's
rockstar they're gonna release a solid fucking game and they released a solid fucking game
and then they realized oh shit never mind we can make a lot of money off the online thing
and they made it ridiculous with flying cars and orbital lasers and shit and it's like
all i hope all i hope i don't give a fuck if the online eventually deteriorates into that
i just hope that as a single player gaming experience it's good i can get something similar
to that feeling of me in um sophomore year of high school booting the game up for the first time and
just being like holy fuck this is revolutionary because gta 5 truly is the last game to have done
that for me yeah i mean there was it was so deep but if you look at all like the the mainline gta
games that have come out they've all done they've all done that and if you looked at the fucking
trailer um if you looked at some of these things like and you kind of like squinted your eyes you
bet yeah it was good you're like but like it's like it's getting to the point like where it's
like if you're like looking dead at it you're like okay this is a video game but like if you
kind of just squint your eyes you're like i could see that being like a like shitty footage type
thing of like of like actual shit going on and if you looked at fucking miami beach that they had
or vice beach in the fucking in the series if you look at vice beach like in the trailer there's
like fucking 300 people on the fucking beach and they're all doing something different yeah and
i'm like the part the the part that astonished me most from the trailer is when lucia who's the
hispanic lead female and you guys know i love hispanic i want to be jason i want to be fucking
full of crackhead but she she flicks through a roll of dollar bills and every single one of
the dollar bills is individually rendered yeah like it looked so good it didn't it was it didn't
look animated or anything it looked real i mean if you looked at um if you look hair looks real
if you looked at um if you looked at yeah yeah if you looked at red dead 2 when arthur would flip
through bills they would all be it was the same thing it was all be rendered but you never and
they didn't take advantage of it they never zoomed in because the actual textures of the dollars
themselves yeah didn't look that great but the flipping looked real so they show it from a
distance i really what i really want to see is kind of like you know how they did with with red dead
2 where they made like arthur's hair grow and shit like like doing shit like that and like you didn't
just go to a barber and magically get more hair except for the beard oil yeah which was weird
that they put that in but like you didn't just like magically get more hair like you actually had
like to grow your hair and then like cut it into a different thing and each each different style
that you could cut it into grew into a different style of hair and i'm like like something as little
as that like as it seems has to be fucking for programming wise be fucking insane yeah to do
you do i got the best compliment of my life from cc the other day somehow some youtube short of
fucking arthur morgan more than one with long mr morgan he had long hair and like a short
mustache and she's like you look like that guy i was like oh my god black lung never said anything
that has turned me on more of mine you're telling me i'm mr morgan i don't listen to your black
lung he has a mullet but he does he can have a so so if you were to put like a cowboy hat on him
his hair more or less would be indistinguishable with mine with the little fucking tail flip
that my hair does what i normally did is i did the i did the the looks like a hobo but so do i i did
the fade i did the fade in the clean shave that's how i liked it i did though yeah i like the fade
with the clean shave because that's what i had at the that's what you had at the time too we both
kind of had the fuck but yeah you still have it still have it that's a little bit dude why do you
not why do you wear a hat all the time because i just don't fucking feel like doing anything
let me gas tyler up a little bit tyler you got like a good fucking haircut let's not do it
no no he needs it he needs it he's got a he's got a widows peak you need some gas enough too bro you
look like a fucking you look like an astrophysicist with those fucking glasses on this is getting uh
uh this is getting homoerotic yeah all right i think we need to take a break i'm not just
taking dan to bed i'm gonna i'm gonna boot megan out of fucking casey's room take dan with me
miry you don't want to see this i remember a certain time yes i remember a time where dan
was assaulted in the back of my car i had like a dragon i did get raped i don't have like a back of
casey's car but you gotta like your hairline's not receding you know i i don't have like a dracula
fucking widows peak but i have like a little bit of it like i've had it since i was born i've always
wanted a widows peak dude if my hair could curl if my hair could just naturally take the shape
that yours does like you've been you're you got fucking winter hat dude if i put a fucking winter
hat on and i take my hat off i look like i just fucking crawled out of a dumpster no because i
trained my hair to go back all right we're gonna take a break we're gonna go get this out of our
system let's take a break by the way shout out for the production quality because we haven't had a
technical difficulty in two oh i could change that right now that's fucking awesome all right
we'll be back on a little podcast all the marbles number 10 baby i'm getting number 10 today
okay i've never gotten that close to the bottle wait hold on oh fuck my eyes welcome back to untitled
podcast we're back here with your three most artistic champions of all time got you nine
time returning champ tyler number 10 today baby four time returning champ oh die and the vitamin man and
still oh wait no defending his first win last episode alley back you hear that defending
defending champion alley back have you planned to keep up this winning streak
he's not gonna watch the fireworks baby i'm gonna tell you the strategy it comes to me as it goes
all right watch those fireworks baby so for for for the next episodes i'm gonna try to get the
buzzers yeah we're getting serious with this jeopardy yeah all right we got categories today
okay we got algebra fuck algebra so that's algebra the answer is a number followed by the word bro
i think i might be one too many deep happy dad seltzer's i think i might be able to pull that
off if i was a little bit sober uh we got homicide suicide or neither
we got acronyms alter egos quantum mechanics and plot and plottables what the fuck is plot
and plottable i'll tell you the plot you got to tell me what it is the movie i fuck it that's
on could be anything i gotta sober up more before the mechanics got you back you got first pick
the drunk alley mac episode um we're gonna go we're gonna go with uh the plot and potables
plot and plottables for 200 for 200 the villain is a photosynthetic organism
what is the last of us
who's the green goblin
what is spider-man 3
wait you said it was synthetic
photosynthetic organisms
photosynthetic organism
uh photosynthetic
bro i'm at it
that would be sponge bob squarepants plankton
oh my god
that's a tough 200
that is that's a tough one
cause it's like that's not really like a villain kind of
he's a he's an anti-hero
dan
alley vac
i'm not gonna win this game
i just wanna let you know early i know it's us vs tyler i'm doing it right now
i can tell i'm not gonna do good in this game
uh alley vac's part
uh plot and potables
for 400
alright you can wager up to a thousand
just do it
we're gonna go big we're gonna go a thousand
one thousand alright
don't do it
no no i'm not gonna let him do that
no i'm gonna go one thousand
he's under the influence
yeah yeah look this is my only shot
i gotta get my money where i can
that's not the strategy you guys are doing
you either win or you win big
get it going
alley vac an invisible map on the back of the
declaration of independence
what was the national treasure
oh uh
well i was gonna say that yeah with nick cage
what is the movie
oh yeah
one thousand points for that
i swear i swear to god for the listeners i did actually know that
i pulled an alley vac
one thousand points for you alley vac
you better not have done that on purpose
you better not be throwing again
no i didn't throw it last time
give us a pic alley vac
i mean i think you might have
aja china
alley vac pic catamaran
um plot and potables
for 600
four guys who love politics conspiracy
what is untitled podcast
oh no no i'm sorry
oh
who the fuck is it then
tyler's
we'll do plot and plotables
800 four jews in the upper manhattan
apartment what is seinfeld
fuck
they're jews yes no i never knew that
what are you fucking kidding me
you don't know they're jews
george castanza is italian
tyler's pick we'll do plot and plot
for a thousand
i never liked that with seinfeld
helly joe osmond sees dead people
what is the sixth sense oh yeah
yeah i didn't know that
tyler you got algebra
homicide suicide or neither
acronyms alter egos and
quantum mechanics suicide
alright you gotta tell me
is this a homicide suicide or neither
okay sharon tate
what is homicide
god damn it
homicide suicide dan hit me in the helmet
i got nothing bro
for 400 chris cornell
what is suicide
is that alley mac yep
alright keep it going
for 600
buddy holly what is
suicide
what is neither
oh fuck it was a plane crash
god damn it he looks like
buddy holly that's weezer
fuck those guys they got
let's do uh
what are the other
categories i look uh i got algebra
acronyms alter egos
for 200
doj what is the department of
justice
dan you guys are quick
i can't keep up with acronyms
my reaction for 400
foobar
fucked up beyond all recognition
fucked up
beyond all repair
fucked up beyond all recognition
isn't it both yeah
it is google it
and i started and ended
first i will say that what did you say is the last word
i said recognition what did you say
i said repair
fucked up
beyond all recognition
dan oh what
no no
that goes by both
that definitely goes i know for
certainty that goes by both
that is bullshit
let's see let's see what urban dictionary
says what he's thinking
of is foobar beyond repair
or recognition yes split it
thank you split it
you're trying to bury me there
he's not throwing
just so the listeners know
i know i know that's why you
fucking asshole i'm behind so i gotta get
done alright uh
dan split you're trying to get me out
of a thousand let's let's do uh
acronyms 600
cnn what is uh cable
news network oh yeah
god
now he beat me to just a little bit
dan what is fox
news
what's not trump
for 800 adhd
what is attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
yeah you guys started before me
that was i knew it
uh 400 points
each okay that's good
i mean that was like that was exactly
like odd i mean i have it
so same
alright dan you can pick acronyms
4000 html
what html
oh shit hypertext
uh something protocol
wait hold on hold on
message link
html
fuck i know this too
hold on hold on hold on don't don't
don't time this out
html
oh fuck
is uh
hold on a sec
give me infinite time on this
you can't get it
i wanna hear it i wanna hear it
dude we don't have a guess we gotta see if he knows it
he gets one guess
hyper technology
no that's not what it is
alright it has to do with
when they used to correct things
um like
papers they would leave notes on the side
so it has something to do with the
something language
the l is for language
so it's something text
something language
hold on hold on
so i got it so we got two of them
cybertext message language
no
we can't have infinite time
hold on
but i know it
this is unfair
i wanna see if he's gonna get it
he gets one guess
no he goes i got two of these in here
that's not
fucking fair
i'd give this to you
if you were the only one who even had a guess
and i believed that you knew it
here let's work through it together alright
let's not work through it together
what the h stands for
something text
something language
alright that would be hyper text
markup language
god damn it
i knew that it had to do with like correcting things
it was markup it's like marking up corrections
yup
i like that you almost got it dan
you can have next pick
i kinda feel like it
you might have got that by the way
you got algebra, homicide, suicide, alter egos, quantum mechanics
let's go quantum mechanics
oh fuck yeah
this kind of matter does not
absorb the myth
how did you get that
what
it doesn't absorb any
it does not absorb the myth or reflect the light
yeah it's dark matter
fucking two seconds into the question
Tyler's pick
let's do suicide
joseph stalin
what is homicide
what is neither
i like that one
what is murder
what is suicide what is neither
i pulled dan
that's alimax pick
wait alimax didn't get that
no that was me
take away the points from that motherfucker
i did
i was like wait i got it
how many suicides do we have left
one
we'll do suicide
nicole brown simpson
what is suicide
murder
fucking oj's wife
alimax pick
i know none of us want it
i'm probably not going to do too great
quantum mechanics
algebra
i'm hoping i can get a little bit less high
for the quantum mechanics
the square root of 64 squared
what is 8
wait what is 64
i can't reach for my calculator
wait the square root of the square root of 64
oh what is 2
what is 4
you gotta add a bro
what is 64
so
what is 2 bro
what is 32
what is 69
what is none
what is 64 bro
i said that
you didn't say bro
oh
damn it
it's algebra bro
you have to say bro at the end
so i said 64 so he said the square root
of 64 squared
which would be 64
i said 64 but i didn't say bro
you gotta say bro
i fucking hate this
i'm thinking about the math i will forget to say bro
when i give the correct answer
and one of these fucking two dickheads
is going to be like what is this bro
it's algebra bro
it's fucking retarded
alimax you can pick
why can i
you didn't say bro
let's go quantum mechanics
fucking christ
the most basic atom consists of
one proton one neutron and one
one neutron
what is one neutron
what is one electron
this is the most basic atom consists of
one proton one neutron
damn
oh shit it is
it's first on the periodic table
god fucking damn it
algebra
algebra, alter egos, quantum mechanics
we'll do alter ego
for 200
ziggi stardust
what is david bowie
god damn it
give me a vape
god damn it
please tell me you have a vape casey
400
i just got
4600
alimax got 2600
200
what was the score
what was the actual value of this
400
you guys can't say anything during this bro
for 400, sasha fierce
sasha fierce
oh shit
oh biancé
oh cool
i actually knew that one
i was like i guessed
i said oh shit
because i'm like god damn it i would have got this
alter egos i guess
600, shoddy main
who is gucci main
who is waka flaka
who is meek mill
that would be justin bieber
what the fuck
shoddy main
who the fuck has ever called him that
this is rap alter ego
is it rap alter ego
alter ego
for 800
slim shady and m&m
what is marshall mathers
fuck
damn
fuck bro that was all you
that's your generation
damn
for 1000
the fireman
what is freddy peters
yo you almost have to
give him points for that
that is his alter ego
his alter ego
freddy is a fireman
who is the captain
the paul mccartney
fuck the guy
whatever
tyler spick
algebra and quantum mechanics
where is my soda
where
where the fuck is my soda
denver
oh it's right there
let's do
for 400
4x plus 16 equals 20
what is five
bro
what is one bro
4x plus 16 equals 20
tyler spick
yeah
we'll do algebra bro
for 600
see i forgot the bro
2 to the third power bro
what is six bro
what is nine bro
what is four bro
what is nine bro
what is eight bro
oh shit
are you fucking kidding me
it took me a second
2 times 2
because it's 2 times 2 would be 4
and 4 times 2 is 8
i don't have the short term memory
to remember what casey asks
so i remember the numbers that i heard
and i'm like oh
i have 2, 8
the square root of negative 16
bro
what is 16 bro
what is negative 4
what is zero bro
what is
negative
what is negative 4 bro
what is imaginary number
oh that's correct
imaginary number
i don't know if you said bro
i did say bro
damn
let's do algebra bro
i'm not even trying anymore
we're just going to try dude
alimax look i've
i've failed before
we got 7600
now we got 2000
damn we haven't got a question
in like two categories
fuck
give me the smelling sauce
zero divided by six bro
what is zero bro
zero
that was tyler's daily double
dude let's get by
he also didn't say bro
tyler you got quantum mechanics
for 600
the fate of
schrodinger's cat
what is unknown
oh my god
quantum mechanics
what is happening we're having a meltdown
why did i drink
what is quantum mechanics
for 800
this is quantum mechanics and i'm fucking losing
the boundary of no escape
in a black hole is called
what is the event horizon
yeah
alimax
quantum mechanics
4000
the father of quantum theory also has a constant
named after him
what is albedeinstein
no quantum theory
quantum theory
oh my god i'm going to fucking
hang myself from the ceiling fan
oh my god
you can't keep the timer going
buzz it out i'm so mad
i did for dan i gotta do it for you
okay
alimax you have to get this
to have a shout out final jeopardy
fucking
oh my god
what is isaac newton
that was my first guess
what is steven hawking
it's not him
it's not steven hawking
it'll be max plank
i don't even know who it is
oh i did
oh my god
fuck
dan and alimax
you guys can choose to pool your
points together
that's not fair
i'm all in favor
you both have to get the right answer in order for
in order to win
no no no
thanks to alimax
you can pool your points but you have to both get the right answer
no that's fair
so but we can't communicate
we can't communicate we gotta be
lucky
i just wanna give him away
you should just let me give him away
cause if he wins it's gonna be hilarious
no if i win i'm gonna be pissed off
cause that's not legit
if you guys fucking won
tyler wiped the floor with us
kc's giving a fair offer
where we both have to answer with the same thing
i think that that
do you think that that's fair
you don't even think that that's fair
how many points does he have
you're not giving me your points
you got 5400
together
tyler's got 8400
jesus
alright um
whatever
alright the category
is about geography
so they both have to get the right answer
yeah you gotta text me your combined wager
well uh
i don't need a combined wager
we're going all in
i am
dan says who's on mount rushmore
you going all in
or are you texting me
i'm going all in with mine
well obviously i'm going all in
tyler's gotta text me a wager
alright
text me your answers
these two great lakes
meet at niagara falls
two great lakes that meet at niagara falls
oh fuck
i'm trying to find your number
dan we're done
you both have to get the right answer
dan
dan we're done
what's the opposite of uh
inferior
you can't say that
no no no i was just asking
you can't fucking say that
alright i got one
he said oh fuck
i can't
i don't remember if
is it that one or the other one
fuck
wait it's which two great lakes
oh wait wait
oh no no no hold on i'm changing it
he said meets at niagara falls
no i don't think
i don't think superior even is
you can't fucking talk
i mean he's the one who gave it to you
i didn't say that
i think
you guys need to just text me an answer
i think he says to be disqualified for that
he chucked me off
he fucking
hold on hold on hold on
hold on
and niagara falls
that was 151
and niagara falls
i called
again oh my god
the two lakes that meet at niagara falls
the two great lakes
damn
i can't tell if it's that one or the other one
yeah dude i'm fucking
there's two i got
there's two and i'm fucking stuck
i think it's this one
i said my answer already
whatever whatever
dan i hope you fucking
dan are you
what rhymes with ponterio
are you changing your answer
oh man i kind of want to say
it's the one with that canal that lake
i already
sent my answer in dan
you can't help me out here i don't know it
i can't
it's either the two
wait wait no
wait i need a marker you gotta give me
a minute i i just realized
one of my lakes was not
correct oh yeah
you can't change your answers
let's draw it
alright i'm gonna draw
out
this is this is i i i'm protesting
whatever you can protest all you want but if
you win it's gonna be epic
you can't do this
see this is unfucking
i didn't do anything
this is unfair we haven't even got
i wiped the floor with these fucking clowns
i didn't do this either
i hope you know you're gonna win
the chances of me getting this i have no
fucking idea i'm just
guessing i i just
know that the second great lake i
i thought of is just not
there's four of them so
yeah yeah there is
i think there's five actually
i thought there was five yeah
yeah the finger lakes
no that's not a great lake
no you got the great lakes no hold up
hold up hold up hold up
that's fucking keep no
there's five great lakes
fuck it just keep my i can't even
remember the name of the third
Niagara Falls is somewhere around here
there's this no no no
hold up reel it
in you can't do that reel it in
hold on oh no i gotta guess
i gotta guess it's probably really wrong
is that what's
you can't do that that's unfair
is that what no
i was already thinking that's new york state
yeah that's new york wait
looks like a dick
and this one is
what
long island is the dick of new york
yeah and then this is like
another shit
these guys keep fucking around so that's my
i i sent it in dude what is wrong
hold on hold on hold on
this is over
do the fucking answers bro
this is fucking bullshit
fucking bullshark test
hold on hold on
no man no
dude i just want this to go over so we can
talk again
i want to talk about conspiracy theories
Ali Vax says what is lake superior and lake tahoe
lake tahoe
okay so i win
that's a correct
god damn
i don't know where the fuck lake tahoe is
it's in California
Dan says what is lake superior and lake
eerie
no
they bet it all you're down to zero
god damn it
i win
tyler said
lake superior and lake eerie
no
tyler bet
a hundred
well the answer was lake
eerie and lake ontario
that was my first answer
tyler bet a hundred he's left with eighty three
hundred
tyler wins
i don't know lakes
so i knew superior was in there
and then i just was like
alright
well it ain't fucking lake michigan
because that touches michigan
i mean it makes sense right
because
you got lake eerie and then you got
lake ontario which is
what is lake george
oh god
tyler
that was good
i can't wait for the
jeopardy buttons
that's the real test of knowledge because then
if you get the answer wrong
you're fucked
it's a genuine test of knowledge
straight fucked
it's gonna be a whole new generation
i don't think we should end it
i think we gotta keep going for a little bit longer
keep going
it's midnight buddy
it's because you're gonna be here all night
doesn't mean we are
bro we've gone to like two o'clock
in the morning
would you risk that win
all for one more question
no
i don't care how you answer that
one more question
one more jeopardy question
negative
you risk it for one question
and if you get it right i go to nightmoves
nah that didn't work
really
wow i thought i had them there
fuck
alright he's not giving it up
we fucking tried
we fucking tried dan
dan that was bad
look champions lose sometimes
that's alright
champions lose sometimes
i think
i think the happy dad hard seltzer
you didn't help me out much here
and neither did larry burger
you came in second
we both got zero
we tied for second
we literally finished
we finished where we started
alright
we didn't go anywhere
let's not pretend like we did
fuck
alright
feels good
sure it does
so kacy who will you be voting for in this upcoming election
alright
we can talk about that next time
alright well
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and elon musk
just remember it's untitled
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no
i usually don't guess
link in description
nobody fucking reads the description
alright so see you next time
and as always
be kind to yourselves
and each other
we out
fuck off
welcome back to entire podcast
you didn't
you thought it was over
we thought it was over
just when you thought it was over
me and ali mac are back
so dan and tyler
went to
have some escapades
they went to have some fun
with one of them
adult club
ali mac being the good guy that he is
and me
the good guy that you are
give yourself some credit
nah you deserve the pat on the back though
do not want to partake
i don't know
want is the correct word
but it's more
the fact that i know that i would feel
like a shitty person if i did
and neither of them
have that barrier
so good for them
ali mac you had some things that
you did not get to say about
your quantum mechanics
there was a lot of things
that i wanted to really go off on a tangent
with but it's hard to do when you got four people
you mean it's hard to do
when tyler is here
no it's not even necessarily
just tyler it's hard
to like i don't want to keep three people
captive talking about it
because i understand
as well as any that when you're talking about
quantum mechanics and the universe
in it's entirety
it is very very
easy to lose track
of what the person is telling you
well i'm captivated because
i've had experience in these things
yeah it appears
that you do some research on your own
as well
well i did a lot of research for school too
i was in like uh taking like physics
chemistry
yeah you have to you have to talk about
i did this one project uh when i was
i think a senior in high school
uh for
it was chemistry
about like the age of the universe and like
the fate of the universe
about like um
like how many years
it would take things to like degrade
your universe like after a certain
point everything gets so far apart
that every atom is fucking
so far apart that
nothing touches can ever touch again
and that's like the fate
of the universe is like a black
so that's i believe what you're referring to
is the heat death heat death
yeah yeah so that's
it's a very grim fate
and uh
there's a lot of evidence
unfortunately that suggests
that that is true and the two
the two leading theories
that i've heard and
the one that i hope is
not true is the heat death of the
universe because it's just grim
well you it won't matter to you because
you'll be dead in 80 years it won't
but when you think about the longevity
of it like i remember i remember
like you see those memes
on instagram and facebook and stuff
where it's like
me when i was in sixth grade
when i heard the sun was
going to explode in six billion years
and it's like the kids like freaking
the fuck out that was me though
like it was like
even as like that young of
a kid i was like hold up earth's
going to be like fucking destroyed
like there's no way yeah me too
but then you doesn't you realize it doesn't matter
because we'll be dead within a hundred
years anyway but i don't like to think
about it in my scope
like it's not
it's not about what happens in my lifetime
i realized that in all inevitability
and this is kind of sad
but i think that there is
some weight to it
is we were born after the moon landing
which was like
monumental yeah but we still got the mars
and that's what i was going to say but you
got the mars landing that's cool it's on their
planet but it's like we already made it to the moon
and real and
realistically if
we had just continued with the
research that we were doing at the time
the moon landing and the cold war and all that
with us in the pissing contest with
russia we could have got to mars
fucking years ago
yeah it's like the moon landing
thing like we got we went there once
for a few years and then we just never go
back because it's all about budget
it's all about the funding yep
and uh we need to figure out how to do it
again it was like literally to that
point oh yeah we're the first to get to the moon
but once we get there we're never going to stop
we're just going to stop because it doesn't
fucking matter who's on the moon right
yep but it's it's
it's sad because it's
and a lot of
problems it's like the way i always like
to think about problems is like
if there's a problem present a solution
and then you
have a better argument to make whatever you're saying
but the unfortunate thing is it's hard
to make an argument for space exploration
in our time with civilization
because there's so much conflict
and we don't work
together as a planet at all
there's no end goal for
a planet there's end goals for each nation
yeah but we're a bunch of we're a bunch
of different teams so like this is how it's going
into like the whole fair me paradox where it's like
why the fuck have we never
why the fuck is
it that we in the fair me paradox
it's not necessarily even saying
that there's an infinite universe but
it's saying that in the fair me paradox
even our observable universe is
so fucking ridiculously
large why the fuck
don't we see signs of intelligent life
and
this is something i do believe the unfortunate
thing is i think that
we don't know
and i hope this is specific to earth but i don't
believe it is just because
the way it worked out here
is i think
that eventually
life just becomes self-destructive
and i think that we're
at that point where it's not necessarily
self-destructive on a level of
we're going to kill one another
and there's going to be war
but we're going to keep continuing
we get to that level where you have talks
of nuclear bombs you have
talks of uh
like just weapons
like we could nuke the world several times
over and while life would exist
humanity as we
know it at the very least would die
we would lose almost
all of our history
we would lose just about everything
if nukes got dropped worldwide
and don't you think that a
civilization can start over
again? i do.
like organisms can evolve to a point
where there's intelligent life again
yes it's happened before.
it's happened before and everybody forgets it
it's happened on this planet
we had the
the jurassic period
and we had so and it's
that wasn't like as tyler was saying
earlier in the episode that's not like
a complete reset
because we still had these very
i mean in relative terms
very complex organisms
like you still had
vibrant
ocean life at that point
because there was so much ocean
life in the deep seas and stuff
that they didn't require
sunlight to live so they were
relatively unaffected
outside of the plants
that died from the practically
non visible light that they used
as a food source that deepened the ocean
from the sun which was blocked out
at the point of the asteroid making
impact but it's uh
it's there essentially was
a full reset like we came out of the ocean
from the jurassic period
i can't remember exactly what it was
that we believed we were but it's like this weird fucking
lizard
like salamander almost thing
kind of a thing that evolves like
four legs to walk on land
yeah it almost looked like a fucking
bearded dragon almost
like i can remember it was a weird fucking
thing but
that's all it takes we just had to fucking
wait that out
then life made it through the ice
age but i think that you
run into these extinction events
that's crazy because there's gonna be
another ice age right?
within like ten thousand years or something
so how are we gonna make it through that?
i mean
i think it's very wishful thinking
to think that we're
as humanity again once again
as we know it
going to make it that far
i think that there will be
stragglers from whatever
extinction event we throw at our way
whether it be
some sudden asteroid impact
or fucking nuclear fallout
or some
raging raging hyper
contagious with some fucking
um
or ridiculous proportions
farther than fucking covid
that just wipes out everyone it touches
like the black death
there's still going to be preppers
that have prepared these
bunkers that are capable
of multiple generations of people
and it's kind of fucking crazy but they do exist
but what if the
what if there was like a bunch of nuclear bombs
that dropped right now
and all the life like at least
on land was destroyed
all humans died
there would still be organisms living in the ocean
that could come back
and evolve to make new civilization
right? absolutely and it's not
yeah because there's
that water offers
i've done research into this
because i was worried cause the
the thing that i think is horrifying
because we have as much as i
believe that there's infinite
planets
and universes and galaxies
not universes sorry i didn't mean that
universes gets me tripped up
but um when you talk about infinite
galaxies, infinite stars, infinite
solar systems, infinite planets,
infinite moons you can keep going on a smaller
scale but um
the thing that trips
me up most is what if all
life dies
it almost becomes
like a if a bear shit
in the woods would anyone
like i can't no
fucking i can't remember if a tree
falls in the woods
that's what i was saying because like the
thing that you were saying about the
galaxies expanding
forever it's like it doesn't matter because
if a tree falls in the forest
no one's there to hear it it's like nobody's
there right it's like just like
empty space according to me
so this leads in
back into the point with um
vaguely
this vaguely comes
back to the point of which i wanted to discuss
with you before we decide to continue this
is you say like oh
but the universe like that
you didn't say this verbatim but you
essentially said it's like the universe expanded off
a single point which
i do believe is true but the
thing is is that you need to grasp
or at least the way it's
been described to me and i think i understand
it correctly is that
that space in which
all the matter of the entire universe
which again is
at least in my beliefs
infinite so it's
already very
difficult to comprehend
that particle and it's also
very difficult to grasp the idea
of a point because
a point is
an infinitely small
area a point is essentially
just a coordinate
but sure
you can always divide something by half
so it's not like a point
represents any actual sort
of matter well you can't divide
a point is a singular thing so you can't
divide that by half
because it's just a point
it's not any amount of matter
exactly a point is
exactly that it's just
it's a dot yeah
it's there's no matter to it
it's essentially just a position
so when you say that the
universe expanded from this one point
yes
it did but that point
also came into existence
where it's
surrounded by nothing
but why did it come into existence
exactly i've read some theories
where the universe just pops into existence
and out of existence
just like quarks do
where quarks just
are subatomic particles
they just kind of pop in and out of existence
and the universe could do that
just like quarks do
which means that we could just pop out of existence
at any point
so exactly
so like is that the
centralized theory
for the big bang
the universe just popped into existence
so yes
it popped into existence as for popping
out of existence i mean
when we get when we get into the talk of quarks
we
that's where you're starting to reach the territory
where we stop
where where answers start to run out
yeah like we
truly don't understand everything
about quarks like even dark matter
we have no way to prove it exists
we just theorize that it does
because it doesn't make sense
if it doesn't
and we can't see it
at this point at least we're
unable to interact with it
we have no way to prove its existence
but we believe it has to
and i can't necessarily
go in depth with why because i'm not a fucking
astrophysicist
you're not Neil deGrasse Tyson
is that his name
yeah Tyson like the chicken nuggets
what a fucking idiot
but when you get into
the universe there's the
two big theories of like
there is an edge
we expanded from this one singular point
at least these are the two leading theories
i can't come up with names for either
of these but uh
it expanded from what was truly like
one point in this
massive colossal
infinite void
where right but think about this
if there was an infinite void
did it exist
exactly if there was nothing in the
universe then did it even exist
and that's why i believe
the other side which is where
yes if it makes it simpler
for you to comprehend
because technically it did occur
from a single point
but it's not like a fucking shock
wave it's not going out
it's just one second you had
nothing and the next
you had infiniteness
and
that's it but it doesn't have
to be infiniteness
because it could just be expanding
but i don't believe that though
because that i don't i and
casey i'm gonna say that you say you
say the the universe is expanding
right and i i accept that
but where is it expanding into
like the edge of the edge
of the universe has to have some point where
it expands into if the universe is
expanding but why
this is the same question i posed to tyler
that got him so pissed off but like
the thing is is that
so we're in what
we call the observable universe right
and everything is stretching
away from one another
so there's stuff where
the light has traveled far
enough to get to us
and there is stuff in which it has
not and
right now just because of
how far things are away
and based off of our understanding of
telescopes and stuff there's nothing
guaranteeing that what we see
is the observable universe
is going to be all that we ever see
due to the
expansion of the universe because you gotta think
about that i don't know what
a good word for it would be like gradient
like you have
we have what we believe to be
the furthest solar systems away
from us like for example whatever the fuck
it was like k and seven dash
and five or whatever the fuck it was that i
said we want to go to it's the most distant galaxy
that we know of right
now we might see that
and it's possible
that a couple generations
down from now you will not
see that it might not be that there's
more for us to see it could be that
there's less for us to see because that
stuff has gone past
it's
essentially based off
of our perception with where we
are that is
going faster than the speed of light
it's going past where we can see
the sun
there still has to be stuff that exists past
there exactly but
my question to you
is why does there have
to be an edge because i'm thinking about
the universe finitely
which i think there has
to be but why
but like what justification
in your head tells you it has to be finitely
like open your mind like
there's no reason why it
because of the big bang originated
from a central point then it goes out
in all directions but it originated
from a single point
in the absence
of anything like it was
a single point in nothing
everything
everything came into existence
in a moment
an
incomprehensible amount
of time and if you wanted to
and i could be wrong for saying this
but in an infinitely
small amount of time there was no
like this is the best way i can describe it
based off of my understanding
of the big bang there is no
shockwave effect it's not
coming from one place and
expanding outward
it is just one
moment you have nothing
and the next moment you have
everything
because we haven't i was looking this up i don't think we've
identified a central point for the big bang
right? no
and that's what i'm saying
what i'm saying right now is
what i believe what my understanding
of the big bang theory
is what i'm saying everything
comes into existence all
at once
the infinite universe
and all of the matter within it
comes into existence at once
you have all these gases
and elements and shit
and the universe and the galaxies
light, suns
planets all of that stuff
starts to take form after the
fact i just feel like there's gotta
be a place where matter isn't you know
like say you go to the
have you ever heard of the booties void?
no
the booties void is
we don't really know why but if you look it up
it's b o o t e s
void
it's essentially just this large
expanse of space
that's in our observable universe
that is ridiculously
incomprehensibly large
and we don't really know why it's there
oh
so it's an area of space containing
very few galaxies
that's
a radius of 62
megaparsecs
which is an absurd
amount of space
that's crazy
i just think like if you go to the
farthest planet in the universe
right and you go to the farthest
observable place in the universe
there's always gonna be so you're saying there's
always gonna be another planet
that you can go to so let's put it this way
if we were to travel
to that galaxy that i
said was at the furthest edge
of our observable universe
if you were to be at that planet
like let's say earth's here
and that galaxy is here
if you were at
a planet in this galaxy
you would be able to see all this shit
we can't from earth
over here we never will
be able to at least
in our night sky because of the expansion
of the universe because
we're moving like this
and from the planet
in the middle nothing's moving
but from that planet's
we're moving like this
and from earth over here
these planets are moving this one's moving
kind of slow and this one's moving faster
so if we travel to that planet
and look as far away as we can see
in the opposite direction
from earth and we
see galaxies there that are
you know that many miles away
and we go there
you're saying that it's just gonna keep going
and it's just gonna keep doing that
forever yes that doesn't make
sense to me why not
because nothing can be forever
something has to have an infinite
something has to end at some point
that is a limitation that you're putting
on yourself though
there is no evidence to prove that
that's not true
because seriously like for me it's just
but there's no evidence to prove
that god's not true but I still
don't believe in him but why
like it just seems to make more sense to
me because
our whole life is filled with shit
that doesn't make sense we're put here
we have no fucking idea
where we came from we
don't even we're not even fucking
sentient truly until we've
been alive for three four
five years is when we get our first
memories when we become self-aware
and it's like what
nothing has made sense our entire
lives so why the fuck
does a finite
universe make sense and honestly
truly
isn't that kind of
at least to me if it were
a finite universe even if it's true that
we're never able to leave our solar system
which unfortunately could be a very sad
truth but
but you're saying there's an infinite
universe right yeah and so I
don't accept that in the same way that
Tyler says that you go
to heaven and you have a
foreverness of paradise
of happiness because
everything has to end at some point
so it's like you can't have forever
of like
you go to heaven and you live forever
but you can't have that
we've flirted with ideas
of foreverness
our whole lives for example what
I was saying before if you divide
one by
two
forever you will continuously
get smaller
numbers if you multiply
one by two
forever you will get
infinitely larger numbers
no you won't you'll just get two
oh yeah you will
yeah you will you're right
hold your bro
thank you sorry
if you divide fucking
two by five
no multiply two
by five if you divide one
by two you can
get infinite possibilities of
increasingly smaller numbers
but that are real because they're
decimals right and they go on forever
yes that's just an idea though that's
not like real life but
but again
Casey like I ask you
why there is
no reason to accept
that like I thought about this for
a while because the thing is I think
the realize that I would
always get super existential when I was in
college right and I remember the reason
why I was getting so scared is because
I realized that we were like this
in my mind
infinitely small point
and it made me feel like Earth was completely
worthless it is well
I don't necessarily think that it's
worthless but regardless
it's infinitely small but it's yeah
not important your life isn't
important in the grand scheme of things
but I also don't
see any but you see
there's a couple things alright
we'll go into the meaning of life after all
right can I take a pee I really gotta pee
I gotta take a pee too okay let's take a break
we'll be right back
alright we're back
to the
podcast again
talking about quantum theory
and the meaning of life
Ali Mack
if you remember that correctly
yeah
we're a little bit further
beyond
where we were
before in terms of
our levels
of THC
but um
these readings are off the charts
the readings are off the charts right now
quite frankly people
Casey but
so
I'm sorry I don't mean to sound
like a skipping record here but for
real like just tell me in your own
words more than just
like it has to be
but why
can the universe not be
infinite like explain
to me why that doesn't make sense
to your brain like just in the
best way you can with words because I couldn't
describe it either
before I believed that
the universe was infinite and now it's like
so say I go
to that furthest planet in the solar system
in the universe
and they tell me oh there's
there's all this shit past
where you can see on earth and I go
oh I'm gonna go to that
furthest planet and I keep going
and I run out of time eventually
I would die right before I ever
why would you run out of time because I
because I'm human and I would die
yeah but let's let's
this is a hypothetical question
in and of itself you're never gonna
make it to KNR7
or whatever the fuck
it is but like
in reality yes I do believe that if
you went to that galaxy you would
see in
a whole other observable
universe and you'd go to
that one and there would be another and you'd go
to that one and there would be another and that
expansion is happening
say we had a robot that could outlive
any human and that could just keep
expanding into the universe forever
right so
we say let's just use that
robot to define
that thing is just
as good of a chance
of
smacking into a fucking meteor
or being completely
destroyed by some sort of radiation
right because no matter how far I
travel there's always gonna be somewhere farther
that I can travel and it's gonna
take an endless amount of time
eventually you will hit something
eventually I'm gonna run out of time though
but eventually yes
the heat death of the universe will occur
but why does that limit the
distance in which you're able
to travel so yes
I guess in that fact of the matter
time would limit your
distance
able to be traveled
but why does that limit the size of the universe
because if we can't it's like
that thing if a tree falls in the forest
no one's around to hear it does it still
fall if we can't observe it
then does it really exist yeah but you're kind
of having the mentality of
the tree never
fell
and I disagree
it's kind of like Schrodinger's
cat did it really fall
or not to a certain extent
but to me the example
of Schrodinger's cat
Schrodinger's cat I have a lot of
problems with because it's
did the cat die or not
it's in a cardboard box and you're not
feeding it the cat's gonna die
eventually that's a horrible
fucking analogy for what they're trying to get at
I think the
tree falling in the woods is a lot better example
because if nobody ever looks at the tree
how do we know if it fell
I feel like or rather what does it matter if it
fell yes what does
it matter if it fell and yes
what does it matter if the universe
is infinite because we don't know
like we don't know one way or the other
whether it did fall or not but that's the thing
though is that I believe
that if we can get the
correct technology
we then
I don't mean to sound controversial here
we can't get technology
that is infinite it's impossible
that's what I'm saying
but you are putting that limitation
on yourself if the universe
is infinite why
are we unable to craft
something that is infinite ourselves
we might not be there
yet but why
couldn't we because
even if we start out from our
point here on earth and we
keep going for infinity there would still be
more according to the theory but you believe
in wormholes right you said you do
believe in wormholes I mean
yeah wormholes are
wormholes are infinite
in a
certain thought process
as though at least the
way I understand wormholes they are infinite
because again
if we
if the universe
is infinite putting yourself in
a wormhole is going to pop you out
in another spot of this
infinite universe
you will
be a
ridiculously incomprehensible
place away from earth
no matter where you land
because the universe is infinite
the chances
of you landing next to earth
are infinite
to one
like that's
that's what I'm saying like
if you believe in a wormhole
you might not
ever want to go through a
fucking wormhole
because like you're just
you have no fucking idea
where you're going to end up
so do you believe that our
consciousness can live
forever can exist forever without
an end point god I fucking hope not
I don't want to fucking die
someday man I don't want to be around forever
even if there's nothing after we die
I believe I've come
I believe I've come to peace with that
I think it's I'm having
I'm not going to say I'm having
a blast on earth there's
stresses and stuff but life is life
and it's beautiful
but at the same time it's
fucking scary and it's horrifying
and it's depressing and it's all these bad
things but it's
better than nothing
well I would make the argument
that you can't say it's
better than nothing because if there was nothing
then you wouldn't know about it
exactly but that's
why I believe that better than
nothing you
were experiencing
something we exist we would
not exist if
there was nothing so
I mean like right now
right here in this moment
I'm having a good time
the whole time I got fucking
Dan to my right
Tyler to my left
got you in front of me
they had a bad experience by the way
but I have a good time with all three of you guys
every fucking Thursday night I come
over here and it's like even if my
week sucks come here
I have a good time it makes it worth it
I won't want to be fucking
sore I agree but that
has nothing to do with the universe
I think it does
because the
universe this is something that's
kind of fucked with me a little bit is cause
when I was in college I was very deep into
philosophy philosophy was my
big fucking go
getter and now it's the
universe now it's more the science
well what if they're the same thing what if philosophy
that's exactly what I was going to
say is what your beliefs
on the universe and
your beliefs in terms of philosophy
are very closely
interconnected at least
in most instances
unless you don't give it a lot of thought
which Tyler does not
fit into this category but I feel like
some people listen to
religion and people become
very close minded very
quickly when they fall into
religion not all of them
it's an exclamation
of things that they want explained to them
it offers an explanation
it offers an explanation and the unfortunate
thing is that sometimes there
isn't one and I'm not trying to convert
anyone like I'm
not trying to start a cult of infinite
universe or anything
like that because it's just like it's just what
I believe it's just to me
an infinite universe
that goes on forever
and
that's that's scary to me
in a lot of ways but I've
almost come to peace with it because
it's
it's unbelievable
if there's an infinite amount of
of matter in
the galaxies in the universe that
means there's an infinite amount of life
on the universe yes and there
are infinitely people
that are discussing this yes
not people but creatures
I got into this but this is when
Tyler was like crawling under the table
and threatening to pull out the fucking
microphones being the autistic
fuck that he was the autistic
child and I'm glad I finally get to
say this but I was trying
to so my whole question
to him was Tyler like
you say that you like
partially believe in the multiverse
I was like do you believe that there's multiple
universes and those universes
are separate existences
or they're separate universes and
I made that a point to him because
those are two entirely different concepts
you can have two universes
within the same existence
that's essentially just you imagine
one big infinite bubble
over here and then there's
another big infinite bubble
over there which doesn't make
sense but there's no way we can disprove
it but the other thing is
and this is what I believe Tyler to have
believed at least I can describe in
his terms he believes
that there is two finite
universes
that are extraordinary
extraordinarily similar
with multiple things happening
in them that are slightly different
Hitler didn't die
Germany won the war that's one
universe well actually
that's almost that that
is an infinite amount of universes that
spread down that path there's a universe where I
didn't have to believe that anything Tyler said this
episode there's a universe
well there's
infinite universes in which I died
from the meningitis I had at three
that blew the hearing out of my
left ear drum and then at the same point
there's infinite universes
where I never
got it there's infinite
universes where I fucking went deaf
in my right ear instead of my left ear
and but the thing is
is that there's a difference between
the multiverse theory
of there's
infinite universes
there's a bunch of different
ways you can go down with it
you can say that it's a finite
universe but there's infinite instances
of it you can say
that there's a finite universe and a
finite amount
of that universe
and
then you can say that there's an infinite
universe finite amounts
of it there's an infinite universe
with infinite different possibilities
of it outside of there and that's crazy
to me because that's what I was trying
to get across to Tyler
you're right actually if you're talking about like
the sixth dimension which is like
every possible thing that can happen
happens
all at once and then you get to the
tenth dimension which is like every
possible universe that could ever
exist does exist well that's all
theories though and
every possible thing that could happen
in time does happen
so I believe that that happens
here but
I don't think
the multiverse is so
difficult to tackle because our
human brains are not
really capable
like I'm able to theorize the concepts
I
feel like I'm able to grasp the
concepts of it but
you're not really able to
truly comprehend it but
if you have a universe
that's infinite right
that means that no matter how
unlikely something is
it does occur within it
so
there's
infinite solar systems
identical
to the one that we live in
from the sun to mercury to venus
to earth
no it's not
if we're talking in the spectrum of an
infinite universe it's not possibly it does
okay
I'm just saying
but you need to truly
wrap your head around the concept of infinite
there is no limit
I can't I don't think because I'm human
I don't understand
what infinity is but I don't still accept
it I know but
just try to
in your brain just
accept it for a moment
you don't necessarily need
to agree with it but just
try to theorize it if you
have an infinite universe
there is an infinite
amount of space so there is nothing
stopping a solar
system the milky way
with the andromeda being closest
to us like
there's that instance
will occur infinite amount
of times because the universe
is infinite there
is no end to
it
it's ridiculous
to think about because it just
it doesn't make sense but neither
does the expansion of the universe
so you're saying that there's an infinite
universe but there's also
infinite universes
well it depends on
this is getting trippy
it depends on what you define
as a universe because
like again
the term universe I believe is
quite self centered
again it makes us
earth the solar system the
milky way it makes
us like our
observable universe even and beyond
that it makes us believe that we're
at the center of it we fucking
aren't there isn't a fucking
center forget that
concept so say we had infinite
universes that were infinitely
large right and all
the infinite universes you can imagine
are in one what if there's
an infinite amount of those
and it just keeps going on like that forever
I believe that it just keeps going on infinitely
and this is something that I've
tried to put into words a lot but
it's like you have
all these different it's like
it's like our reality breaks
itself down into fractions right
you have your
universe from your
universes you have your
galaxies
from your galaxies
you basically know if we want to
get technical used to saying tenders
from your clusters
from your clusters you have your
galaxies from your galaxies
you have your stars from your stars
You have your solar system from your solar systems. You have your planets from your solar systems
You have your fucking moons. You have everything that rotates around those moons
God forbid you live on a planet that is fucking life on it you go into that that your your planet
It has continents it has its oceans. It has its fucking
Islands, I mean you have to live on a planet that has like I know if you're living I know but you break down even further
And then it goes into the fucking elements that are within it with its fucking life forms
It gets into your life forms, and then it's you break down the life forms even more you go into the
like let's say we're talking about the human body body you got your
fucking heart and everything that makes that up and every single thing that makes your body work is a fucking cell and
Your cells they have parts to them and your parts have fucking atoms underneath that and we have no fucking idea
It can get smaller than atoms, and we just don't have the technology to know it
Everything keeps going on that smaller scale. That's when I say when you have something you can always divide a number by half of it
It goes infinitely small it goes infinitely large
And we're incapable to grasp that for all we know we could be a fucking skin cell on some giant and
That giant is on some fucking skin cell of another what it would consider John the whole entire universe
Yes
Like we could be what would be the point of that though there wouldn't be like any point of that
that we know of
We can't comprehend it
We are extremely extremely based off of what we
Based off of what we can even theorize
We're retarded
Like us as humans like we're retarded the only reason
We see ourselves as so smart is because we are the smartest thing we have evidence of
But I guarantee ya fucking Neanderthals thought that they were the fucking boys
There could be a universe where you know who's on Mount Rushmore no?
There's not a universe there is
Yes, there's infinite universes where I do and there is infinite universes in which I don't we picked a bad one
Yeah
We're talking about the Mount Rushmore
But there's infinite universes in which I would not be able to fucking tell you what I am right now
And you want to know what I'd much rather be able to have this conversation with you fucking quantum
Physics and came out of your ass and I feel like I'm in a different universe right now
Cuz dude if you're able the thing I've noticed is that if you're able to explain this shit to somebody
You can really open open their mind
Yeah, and you could explain the shit as well as well as Neil deGrasse Tyson does so why are you a fucking TV personality?
Fucking hope I'm better than his
Fucking egotistical bitch
Yeah, I go on this show to get my fucking ass kicked on jeopardy in infinite universes alright
And you want to know I don't fucking go to night moves in
Universe where you've won every single episode of jeopardy there is there is you can consider this one of the darkest timelines
But hey, I got one win
There you go. Yeah
It's dude. It's it's it's it's fucked up, but when you think about universes and when you think about the universe
It's it's fucked. It's it's hard to wrap your head around and
in
Infinitism I don't even know if that's a word, but it's it's really
Really hard to grasp the concept, but like I know I think I think I've gone in depth with it before on the
Podcast before is the and this has been a recent development over the past couple months
So to rewind
When I went to college, and I was that big Bernie fan like we discussed earlier on this episode I had a I
Had a really really bad existential crisis that lasted
several months and it left me completely hopeless
Because I just had this very very
Awful feeling that all of this was for nothing. Oh, there's a
Well, but I I don't believe that I think that that's ignorant to think that it's for nothing
But I also think that in your perspective it might be for something but in the grand perspective
It's not it's for nothing, but I believe so
The best way I could describe myself Casey is a hopeful agnostic now
but at that point I was really teetering on the edge of atheism and
Atheism atheism does make sense to me. I understand why people believe that way because I once was in that spot and I have
nothing to prove
That atheism is not the case, but at the same point
Why and that this is what has come back to me and again?
This is a concept that I grasped right around the time I did infinity which is
extraordinarily hard at least in my brain because it just doesn't make sense, but
Why would any of this be here if there wasn't
Intervention is the is the wrong word, but without meaning
Like I'm eating plenty of things can have have no meaning but still exist
right
You can say that though, but you have nothing to prove it. There's nothing that you can do to prove meaning and there's nothing I can say to
Meaning is just a
Intelligent a concept made by intelligent species
Because we feel like we have no meaning if if the universe doesn't mean anything so when we die what does meaning mean?
right, so
What are you what is one single organism in the grand system?
The infinite universe you have to think about infinite levels of it
Yeah, so you you yourself are not significant in the grand scheme of things
But in your own life and to the people around you you're significant
And that's that's where I think it lies is that there's ways to be hopeful
there's ways to enjoy life and
I had a very cynical belief on this for a long time
Especially when we both worked for our previous employer. I was very cynical about most things in life, and it's like
Life is beautiful and
It can be dark and it can be twisted and it can be awful
But it can also be amazing and it's like I went through a period where I felt that I was
emotionless, thank you anti-depressants, especially you Lexapro and well butrin
awful medications
But it's like when you experience that fucking devoid
nothingness and
You start to see in color again and like when I stopped taking anti-depressants. I was extremely depressed
but I was also like kind of thrilled and like borderline manic because I was feeling something again and that
Experience of having felt nothing for a while and then coming back to feeling something it just
It like I don't know. I wish Dan was here
Like it opened my third eye. I feel like that's the best way I could describe it
It opened my third eye to truly understand what it was like to be able to feel something
It opened my third eye to truly make me realize like this grand concept where
minuscule sure
worthless now
That's that's what I define us as everything's minuscule. Everything's minuscule, but also massive
because we're on this infinite spectrum where everything gets infinitely smaller from where we are and everything gets infinitely larger and
Nobody's more important than one another
We don't know why we're here
At least in our lifetimes. I don't believe we're gonna figure that out
so
Why fucking guess but also why live this life?
Feeling like there's nothing afterwards and it's hopeless and it's just you no longer exist and anything you ever were
Will never ever be able to be comprehended by your being because it simply doesn't exist and your memories no longer exist
It's as if you never lived from your perception, which again doesn't fucking exist anymore
That's that's that's horrible. Why would that why would that be the case? I don't think it seems
Logically is the case. I think that it might be a possibility
But I think that we don't know if it's gonna be the case or not
I think that's a possibility that it could just be nothing. I'll tell you what I think makes no sense to me. I
Think reincarnation of us being like born back as something on earth
That doesn't seem to make sense to me. I don't think that we're the only life in the universe
No, I think reincarnation is plausible
I think reincarnation is plausible and it would occur within this infinite universe in a spot
infinitely far away from here
He's like that's the thing that's fucked up is that like
it's not like it's
So fucked because like if I were to die right now and I were to spawn in again in an infinite universe
What distance would I spawn away from here?
It would be infinite. I would not spawn here again. The chances of that are infinity
Divided by one it's in fucking infinity
Like again, like you're not going to land on earth. It will always be something different
It's not like a one in a trillion shot. It's not a one in a quadrillion
It's not a one in a quintillion. It is a one in infinite shot. You will not
Beyond earth that is a certainty
It is what if you spawned in as Dan and you started taking supplements?
well, then
I'd be the man. I'd be Dan the man the vitamin man. I'd be Dan the man the vitamin man. Shout out
You know, I think your
Perspectives have really opened my third eye. I think the universe do you do you do you mean that I do I do because I'm like
Oh, well, I mean, we don't really know if this if space is infinite and all this like I could be wrong
Like I'm not I'm not over here trying to say that what I'm saying is the truth
I'm not we just don't know I think that's possible and it's all the shit is possible
I'm not saying that we have to stick to this
finite theory of the Big Bang no and
both the
Big Bang is not a finite theory
You it's no no according to me. It is not
The Big Bang is
a singular point with all the matter in existence an
infinite
Amount of matter. Yeah, it's not like an explosion in that it moves in an outward
Motion, it doesn't do that. It's you have
That point
That singular point. It's not even a
measurable distance
It's it's not it's a point and then
Everything exists from that point. It's not it's not a rapid outward expansion
There's no movement there. It's just you have
nothing you have that point practically nothing and then
Everything and something and then under whole podcast
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Casey Casey, we're gonna we're gonna get this going right here
Oh, yeah, this is how people are gonna know that we're for real in case there's people in other countries
We're real in case there's people in other parts of our infinite universe that are listening to us and they think that yeah
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Ali back with the
Yeah, quantum theory this episode coming out of nowhere. I like it. I
Just want to keep talking about it
I know you know, I think you go it. Yeah. I know you could keep going you you're like
Neil deGrasse Tyson, we already know that I'm not fuck that guy. He's a dickhead. No, he was he
I but Neil deGrasse Tyson in our in our known observable universe
Deserves a lot of respect. No, he doesn't know. No, he does
He was not always a egotistical prick. He yeah, like ten years ago
He helped people like myself who are interested in the questions of the universe
Understand things in a way
Where we're able to communicate them and then he became a huge prick
He got egotistical. He started thinking he was God
Well, not not really God. He thought he was like science God. He's I he's like what I'm sure the fucking Christian saw Galileo as
but it's like
he
I
Neil deGrasse Tyson has a talent for
describing incredibly
Complicated concepts in a way that most people can understand him
because
Dan said fans are requesting the podcast
No, we got fans right now requesting that we publish this episode this is what the fuck is taking
That's gotta be his fucking wifey. Oh
My lord, I tell you what let's wrap it up. We're gonna be back next week. We'll go to night moves
Ali Mack won't but we'll be here
All right. Oh
Shit Dan's really blowing up my phone
Gasey right there just text me fans
Fans like plural. No, he just texts me fans
All right fans, we're gonna publish this episode just for you. All right, it'll be up in a little bit
You know
Casey, how do we sign off? We already signed off before I was just gonna say that as always you should be kind to yourself
fuck off
For all we know robots have souls we just don't know if they do or don't how do you know?
Have you ever been a cyborg or a robot? You think we were the first ones to inhabit this planet?
No, no we are jumping down this fucking rabbit hole. Yes, we are there's people out there with some really dumb
extended
episodes
Where the fuck did this year end come from?
Where the fuck did Stonehenge come from?
You're telling me that they didn't die and become ghosts
They're killing they're killing already born babies and sell them to the Chinese
Somewhere in China, right in some days what the fuck there are super soldiers that are at least nine or ten feet tall
Okay, so did they come from our planet? Then they are extraterrestrials. They are aliens. I do not know
Before my eyes while holding their pulse feel them die of this virus you feel bump bump bump
They're fucking gone. I've seen it happen. I think that the government has taken it to the next level with the birds
They know what birds are going to cross paths with you that you are going to be able to raise and they are gonna make them
So fucking real they're gonna sink money into them because they know that if you put that motherfucker in a cage
They're gonna be a
You can cut it open you're gonna see blood cuts. No surgery, but let me tell you their technology
Which by the way big brother is the overlord
Oh
George Soros is an actual Nazi collaborator. Okay, I'm not fucking lying. It's fucking real
Okay, look it up. Look it up. He said that he was doing this shit George Soros actually
during the home
Doing it just to survive, but he fucking love
George Soros is the fucking devil. Okay
He's not fucking doing this fucking he's the actual fucking
leader for all this shit. He's fucking fucked down a whole bunch of shit. Just don't fucking get it. Oh Donald Trump is the fucking worst person out there. Fuck Trump. He's not the actual fucking leader. It's George Soros. It's Bill Gates. It's fucking Elon Musk. It's everyone out there. Everybody gets fucked up.
Everybody gets fucked up. It's George Soros. It's Brian. It's actual government which is George Soros and all the fucking Latvians are actually the ones that are fucking all of them. The queer politicians are paid off by the fucking billionaires. The pain fucking falls on them.