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Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast where we dive into relevant topics and issues

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related to the world of business, technology, education, and design.

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I'm your host, Mr. Jason.

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Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders, and inspirational stories

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with an international flavor.

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This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok.

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In today's episode, we'll be looking back with several guests who have been around the

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ICS community for many years.

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In fact, this year, 2023, marks the 30th year anniversary of the school, which began in

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1993.

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Our first segment will feature an interview with Mrs. Elsie, one of the founding members

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of the school, followed by a light-hearted top 10 list, also read by Ms. Elsie with some

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student commentary.

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The second segment will include a discussion with two current seniors who have been attending

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ICS since kindergarten.

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But before we begin, let's hear the quote of the day and get some headline news.

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Our quote of the day is, you can go to other places, all right.

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You can live on the other side of the world, but you can't ever leave home.

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This was said by Sue Monk Kidd, who is an American author known for her novels, The

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Secret Life of Bees and The Invention of Wings.

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This quote is perfect for today's episode.

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As we transition to our new lives in different countries, we may be leaving our homes, but

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we will always be connected to the places we leave, especially ICS, which has been our

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second home in so many ways.

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Although it is somewhat cliche, home is truly made up of people and their impact on us.

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Now let's hear the news headlines.

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Our first news headline features AI technology and how it can be used for harm as well as

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good.

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In Arizona, a woman received a call from her daughter, who was panicking and screaming for

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help, claiming to have been kidnapped.

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However, her daughter was safe on a ski trip and her voice had simply been replicated through

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AI.

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The kidnapper demanded $50,000 as ransom.

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But thankfully, they called the authorities and were able to verify that their daughter

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was actually safe.

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Several tornadoes hit the US East Coast recently.

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Virginia Beach has begun cleanup efforts and a state of emergency has been declared.

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50 to 100 homes have been damaged with collapsing roofs.

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The temporary shelters have been opened for those who cannot live in their houses.

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Now onto the other side of the world.

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A city in Japan decided to remove a street piano after people began to break the rules.

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The rules were that users should disinfect their hands before playing, could not exceed

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the time limit of 10 minutes, and were not allowed to sing.

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However, these rules were broken as people began to play the piano for too long and sang

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loudly.

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However, officials say that they might relocate the piano.

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Thank you for the quote in the headline news.

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Let's jump into our first segment with Mrs. Elsie.

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Kush will start us off.

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Welcome to the podcast, Ms. Elsie.

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We're honored to have you as a guest.

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Can you please introduce yourself and tell us how long you've been part of the ICS community

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and what roles you've had?

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Sure.

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I'm Elsie Fusazi and I've been here at ICS for 30 years.

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The different roles, you know, when a school is small, one person has to do many roles.

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So over the years, I've been elementary teacher, elementary coordinator, accreditation coordinator,

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curriculum coordinator, director, deputy director, school nurse, and I guess that's enough.

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I mean, maybe there's a few more, but I don't remember anymore.

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But so glad when the school increased in size, we could specialize, hire more staff.

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So I could focus on my main job, which was elementary principal.

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We understand that ICS is celebrating its 30th year anniversary this year because the

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school began in 1993.

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And since you said you've been here from the beginning, could you describe what the

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school was like those first few years and maybe some of the challenges it faced?

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Oh, I think of those first few years.

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Oh boy, no air con, no computers, open air, lots of mosquitoes.

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And I had a class in third grade of 22 students.

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Some spoke no English.

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Others were native speakers, very intelligent.

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So it's a real challenge to keep everyone occupied, especially when they're slapping mosquitoes

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throughout the school day.

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And the fans in the ceiling would blow their papers off their desk.

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But we survived and we kept on.

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We did not give up.

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We spent thousands and thousands of dollars renovating the campus, which was at Sauton

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near downtown.

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And our playground was filled with cement debris and nails.

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We had to take care of all that, had to renovate the bathrooms because we just had squatty

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potties at the time.

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So we had to put other things in.

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The plot that we leased used to be a snake farm and then it became a Chinese Christian

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school and had been vacant for quite a few years before we were able to lease it.

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But we're so happy at the end, before we moved to this campus, the new campus, we have 500

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students and a two-ride campus, had to schedule every minute.

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But we survived, we kept on because we had that vision to have a K-12 accredited school

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in which God would be honored and our students, no matter what their faith or values were,

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could hear the values that the Bible teaches.

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You know, we can't cover 30 years of history in this short interview, but as you just mentioned,

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how was the transition of moving the campus from the one in Sauton to the one over here,

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where it's located today and how it changed the school's dynamic?

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Well, it took a lot of effort.

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The school board administration looked at at least 40 sites that we could possibly buy.

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Most of them were too small or too expensive.

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So where we're sitting now on Bangla campus is the one that was the largest and the most

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reasonable and we bought it taking out a loan from the bank.

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And just a few months later, the value of the land increased, almost doubled and then

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tripled and I'm sure it's worth much more now.

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So God was great in providing a campus.

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A lot of parents and students wanted to stay downtown because it's convenient transportation-wise.

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But when they saw the new campus, by the way, it's building this, all these buildings were

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built in nine months, except for the arc, which was built later.

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They all decided to come to a new campus.

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So for three years, we had two campuses, the downtown and Bangla, but the old campus only

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had like 65 students average for the three years.

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So we closed it.

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People and students often say, oh, I miss the so cozy home feeling of the small campus.

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But eventually they were happy to be here, new facilities, more room, more play area,

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more activities.

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And we could just not be bumping heads all the time.

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For you personally, what was it like becoming the principal of the elementary division for

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the first time?

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Well, I was elementary coordinator before I became principal.

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And it was just an increase in responsibility, increase in decision-making, increase in worrying

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at night and not sleeping, but just a grand opportunity to help move the school forward,

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to look for ways to help the school grow, to evaluate where our current program was

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and look into different aspects, research what would help our students achieve more

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and more, and continue to value the individual student.

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Because you've been with the school for this super long path, could you describe how the

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school has been able to maintain its core values?

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And if it's had to ever shift those values?

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We maintained our core values from the very first all through the years, except for a

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short instant where we had to pull back and reevaluate, are we really sticking to our

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values?

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To me, the most important thing was who we hired, who worked here.

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Did they have the same passion, the same values?

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Were they followers of Christ?

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Were they into demonstrating as as we expect our students to do?

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And to me, if an organization, the most important things are people.

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If you don't have people, you have nothing.

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If you have people, then you need facilities and you need finances.

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Without people, it's just a shell.

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So hiring the right people is the way to stick to your values.

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So before we get into our final part of the segment, which we will need your help with,

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we'd like to ask you one more question.

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As ICS continues each year, what is one thing you'd love to see continue even another 30

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years?

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Well, you all know loving and learning, right?

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That's sort of our theme.

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I'd be pleased if we continue with that theme, continue basing our education on the Bible,

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helping our students to do good things for our world and bring glory to God because when

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we do good things for others, God is also pleased.

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I hope we never lose track of that.

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I'd also like to see us grow.

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I'd love to have a bigger campus so we can have more students because we have so many

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students wanting to come here and we have to say no to the majority of them.

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And they're so sad.

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Sometimes the parents cry because there's no room.

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It'd be great if we could somehow acquire more land so we can have more facilities and

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then we can have more people.

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And of course, more people means more finances so we can do more activities and on and on

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and on and on.

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All right.

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Thank you so much.

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We're going to shift gears a little and we want to end this segment with you on a little

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bit of a lighthearted note, maybe even on a little bit of an edgy note.

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With that said, Ms. Elsie, we'd love for you to read from our top 10 list.

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Because of your years of work and service as a previous administrator, we assume that

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you've conducted a lot of meetings and interviews with teachers.

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So we decided to come up with a list called the top 10 things a teacher should never say

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during the end of the year meeting with their administrator.

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Ms. Elsie, could you please start off with number 10 and count down the list?

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Sure.

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I hope this all gives everyone a chuckle.

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Okay, number 10.

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Why do I have to follow that policy?

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This question can make the administrator feel defensive and may not be the best way to suggest

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changes in school policies.

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Instead, trying to come across was constructive criticism.

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This is the best way for policy change.

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Number nine.

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Can I have my personal phone calls during class time?

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This question can indicate a lack of professionalism and a lack of respect for the students learning

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environment.

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Number eight.

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Do I have to attend that staff meeting?

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This question can make it seem like you're not interested in being a part of a team and

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may not be willing to collaborate with your colleagues.

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Number seven.

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Can I work from home sometimes, please?

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This question can give the impression that you are not willing to present in the classroom

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and may not be fully committed to the job.

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Number six.

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Why did you make that decision without consulting me first?

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This confrontational question can undermine the administrator's authority and may damage

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your working relationship.

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Number five.

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Can I leave early on Fridays?

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This question can indicate that you are more interested in leaving work early than fulfilling

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your responsibilities as a teacher.

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Number four.

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Can you give me a higher rating on my evaluation?

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This puts pressure on the administrator to be lenient in their evaluation and may damage

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your credibility in future evaluations.

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Number three.

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Can you tell me who complained about me this year?

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This puts the administrator in an awkward position and may make them reluctant to provide

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constructive feedback in the future.

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And number two.

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How many personal days do I have remaining?

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This question can give the impression that you are not dedicated to your job and are

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more focused on your personal time off.

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And number one.

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The thing a teacher should not say to the administrator during the end of the year meeting

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is am I getting a raise next year?

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Discussing salary seems self-centered and it's not something that should be brought

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up with the administrator.

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If brought up at all, it should be brought up with the HR department so no one feels

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uncomfortable.

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And there you have it.

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The top 10 things a teacher should not say during their end of year meeting with their

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administrator.

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We'll be right back after this short PSA.

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As the school year comes to an end and our seniors get ready to take off, there are a

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few upcoming dates regarding the class of 2023.

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On May 26th, the senior chapel will take place and to mark the end of their 12 year long

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journey the high school graduation ceremony will be happening on the 27th of May.

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We're really proud of our seniors.

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We are back with part two.

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In this segment, we'll be looking at the present and past.

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We are going to be talking to two students who have been here since kindergarten and

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are now seniors.

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Let's welcome Patty and Austin.

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Kush will start us out with our first question.

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Can you two introduce yourselves, say where you're from and how long you've been here

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at ICS?

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Yeah, so my name is Austin.

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I'm from the USA, but I've lived in Thailand for my whole life and I've been here at ICS

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since K-5.

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And hi, my name is Patty.

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I'm from Thailand and I've been here since K-4.

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What has been your favorite and least favorite change since coming to the school?

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I'd have to say my favorite change is the arc because I remember the old gym was here

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for like my first two or three years and it was just really bad.

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We only had the one indoor court.

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There was nowhere to sit for people to watch sports games.

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So just in general, it was a whole lot worse.

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So that was definitely my favorite change.

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My least favorite change, I can't really think of anything in specific.

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I mean, I remember hearing from my siblings that high school lock-ins were really fun,

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but I understand why they stopped doing those because, you know, no teacher wants to sign

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up to be with us kids all night.

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And for me, my favorite thing or change is the arc also and the cafeteria, which was

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like recently changed.

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And my least favorite was changing from skirts to pants.

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What have been some of the biggest changes in the campus since coming here?

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I mean, they painted everything blue instead of brown.

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That was weird.

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And I mean, also the arc, but I don't want to answer that again.

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Back when I was first here, the elementary playground was much different and like a lot

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more dangerous.

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It's like they had this big cage thing that you would climb up on and if you fell, you

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just, you know, you just fell.

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That was your problem.

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It's hard to notice academic change since you're not, you know, repeating grades all

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the time.

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I mean, I've heard that in elementary, they don't have the same grading system now.

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So that's interesting to me.

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For me is the community because growing up, I get to see the quality of the ICS community

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shape so much with like more interaction with each other after school and like sessions

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that teachers like give to the students.

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So our next question is how has ICS molded you or impacted you as people?

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So I remember when I was in sixth grade, I had like a, had a medical crisis and it was

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really a pain and I had to be in the hospital for like two weeks at the very beginning of

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sixth grade.

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I wasn't able to meet lots of new people, but despite that, despite having never met

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the middle school teachers and never having met the new kids, a teacher organized like

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the entire class to all write notes for me.

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And that really meant a lot for me because I hadn't, you know, I hadn't met anybody

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new or any of the teachers, but it really just showed how the teachers and other students

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cared for me.

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I wasn't very open with teachers and students in my community.

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And also I was afraid of being goofy around people, but then there were like teachers

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who are always supporting and always reminding me that like ICS is actually a safe zone for

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me.

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What is one thing that you have taken away from ICS that you will bring into the real

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world?

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One thing that I've taken away from ICS is that at the end of the day, even though there's

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teachers, there's students, there's principals, at the end of the day, we're all people.

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It doesn't seem like anybody is out of reach or like, you know, they're above us that we

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can't talk to them.

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Like every teacher knows our names, every administrator knows our names, asks how we're

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doing.

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They know what we're involved in.

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And I think it really shows servant leadership because they're not here to lead just to tell

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people what to do.

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And that's been a good example for me.

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For me is serving others because we've been doing it for like almost every year since

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middle school.

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And I will use it a lot in my future lives because I figured out that the capstone project

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was actually just an introduction for me to keep serving others in many ways.

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I agree.

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Those are really important takeaways.

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So our final question for you guys today is what is one shout out you would like to make

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either to a teacher, a lesson or a class?

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What is one person or thing from ICS you will remember forever?

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I'd have to shout out middle school teachers as a whole because middle school is when everybody

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is so annoying.

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Everyone's trying to like figure out who they are, who their friends are, stuff like that.

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And they have to put up with so much.

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Like in high school, we calmed down a little bit.

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Yeah, just middle school teachers for putting up with all of our crazy stuff.

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My nap time friends that we always sleep in every class since we have like one, two, three

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guided classes.

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And one of the teachers that I will never forget is Mrs. Christine because she has been

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like the best counselor for me.

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She helped me like pass like a lot of obstacles in my high school life.

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And with that last shout out, we have run out of time.

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Thanks again to our guest for helping us reflect on the impact this school has made over the

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years and continues to make in the lives of so many.

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Looking back can help us see the path forward more clearly.

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It helps to keep us grounded in the things and people that have enriched our lives over

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the years.

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As we end this episode, my team and I have already begun reminiscing about this past

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year.

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We're so thankful for the opportunities we've had to enjoy with our guests and the variety

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of topics that have been discussed.

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We hope this season has added value and a bit of entertainment to your lives and we

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are super grateful for your continued support.

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Looking ahead, episode 32 is coming up next.

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It will be slightly different in format.

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In fact, it's already been titled.

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It's a falafel wrap.

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Thanks to Machi.

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Make sure you tune in.

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As always, this podcast would not be possible without the hard work and support of our international

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student production team.

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And we are signing off until next time.

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