1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast where we dive into relevant topics and issues 2 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,600 related to the world of business, technology, education and design. 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,600 I'm your host, Mr. Jason. 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,980 Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders, and inspirational stories 5 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:31,980 with an international flavor. 6 00:00:31,980 --> 00:00:35,900 This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International 7 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:37,900 Community School of Bangkok. 8 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:49,400 In today's episode, we'll be talking about the industry of art. 9 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,560 For our earlier listeners, you may know that we have already covered the topic of art education. 10 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,200 However, today we would like to do a deep dive into the business side of art. 11 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,600 We would like to describe how art is sold, the makings of a gallery, and what job opportunities 12 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,720 can string from being an artist in 2023. 13 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Our quote today comes from Neil Gaiman. 14 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,560 He says, the world is always brighter when you have created something that wasn't there 15 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,560 before. 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Neil is an English writer slash artist. 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,480 He is most known for his book that turned into the popular Amazon Prime TV show Good 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Omens, starring David Tennant and Michael Sheen. 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Although starting as a simple writer and artist, he later transitioned into audio theater, 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,080 film, and making graphic novels, some of his most prominent works are Coraline, American 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Gods, Stardust, and his most popular Good Omens. 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Andy Warhol's masterpiece Blue Marilyn, featuring the iconic Marilyn Monroe, was sold 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:45,680 from the collection of Thomas and Doris Amman at Christie's in New York on May 9, 2022 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,560 for $195 million. 25 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,360 This is now the most expensive work of art created in the 20th century. 26 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,060 The painting is an exceptional example of Warhol's silkscreen technique. 27 00:01:55,060 --> 00:01:58,560 This purchase shows how art is bought as a valuable investment. 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Art is a very secure investment as its value is generally stable and does not fluctuate. 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Archaeologists in Egypt have excavated a small statue of a Spinnach at the Dendera Temple 30 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,760 complex. 31 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,480 They believe it may have represented the Roman Emperor Claudius. 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,760 A limestone shrine was also discovered alongside it, and it dates back to the Roman era in 33 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Egypt. 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,600 More excavation will be done near the Temple of Horus. 35 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,320 The Bay Lights, the famous art installation located on the Bay Bridge in San Francisco, 36 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,960 was switched off on March 5. 37 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Reasons were cited as outages, cable issues, and harsh weather. 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Serial bridge illuminator Leo Villarreal crafted it in 2013, and it consists of almost 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,440 2,500 small LED lights that stretch from San Francisco to Oakland. 40 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,000 $11 million will be raised to help illuminate the bridge. 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 This iconic bridge has been a landmark for nearly a decade. 42 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,080 Thank you for the quote in the headline news. 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,520 Let's jump into the first part of our episode with our special guest, Mr. Jonathan. 44 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,960 Lyon will start us off with our first question. 45 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Welcome to our podcast, Mr. Jonathan. 46 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Can you please introduce yourself and describe your role at the school? 47 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Hi, I'm Jonathan Pregg. 48 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Thank you so much for having me on the show. 49 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,600 I am a high school art and design teacher, and I mainly focus on the upper level and 50 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,040 AP art classes. 51 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,560 What is your favorite style of art and design either to create or to look at? 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,400 So I studied painting and drawing in college, so that's always been kind of my area of emphasis 53 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,400 or focus. 54 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,600 I've always been kind of drawn to painterly realism, which is capturing something true 55 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,840 about the world, but through a painterly perspective. 56 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,920 And so some of my favorite artists in that kind of sensibility are people like John Singer 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Sargent, James Ebbock McNeil Whistler, and Anders Zorn are all really, really talented 58 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 painters. 59 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,040 What are some possible career paths for those interested in art and design? 60 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,760 So this is a super interesting question because the visual arts are so broad. 61 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,040 They kind of touch into every industry. 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,640 I think there's this assumption that if you're going into the arts, you're kind of destined 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:07,560 to this passionate career of starving and making work that's just for your joy or pleasure 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,560 or something like that. 65 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,000 But there's actually a ton of different career paths out there. 66 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,640 I looked up kind of the top five highest paying art careers of 2023, and it's a really interesting 67 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,840 like broad range of options. 68 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:24,920 So the top one that I found was to be an art director. 69 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,360 So that's somebody who kind of oversees the visual direction of a project. 70 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:35,740 And they're kind of any industry that has visual arts in it in some way as an art director. 71 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:38,280 So another one would be a user experience designer. 72 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:44,240 So that's somebody who designs software thinking about how the user is kind of interfacing 73 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,040 with it. 74 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,120 Another one would be a multimedia artist or an animator. 75 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,680 So this is any type of artist that you think of in kind of visual arts who's creating kind 76 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,640 of content in the way that is so prevalent on YouTube or other industries, any sort of 77 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,160 visual, especially video medium, they're kind of high demand. 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:09,120 And then other ones are like an architect or a fashion designer or industrial designer. 79 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,320 So these are all people who are kind of touching every aspect of your environment or the things 80 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,000 you're wearing or the objects in your hands. 81 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,480 Somebody has spent time, yeah, kind of carefully and meticulously planning out what that looks 82 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,480 like. 83 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,280 So lots of different ways that the visual arts can be applied. 84 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:30,600 Our next question is how are galleries curated? 85 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,800 How do they make money or what is their business model? 86 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,100 So you'll notice I didn't mention a gallery artist in that last list. 87 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:43,200 So the way a gallery makes money is they kind of have a catalog of artists and then they 88 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:50,080 are trying to sell that work and the artist takes usually like 40 to 50 percent of the 89 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,820 sale and the gallery takes the rest as a commission. 90 00:05:53,820 --> 00:06:00,080 So obviously they're providing a service of exposure and the overhead of showing work. 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,080 That's not necessarily the best deal for kind of making it as an artist. 92 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,520 What are some popular art galleries and museums in the world? 93 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,520 What about Bangkok? 94 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Out of the ones you have visited, do you have a favorite? 95 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,840 So there's lots of famous art museums and galleries in the world. 96 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:22,460 I mean, some of the big names I think everyone has heard of places like the Louvre in Paris 97 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:29,200 or the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York or there's national galleries in London and 98 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,440 DC and even in Bangkok. 99 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,400 In Thailand, still kind of exploring and finding museums and galleries. 100 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,320 One that I go to quite often is the Bangkok Art and Culture Center, which is downtown 101 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,800 off the BTS. 102 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,140 And yeah, they have rotating shows. 103 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:46,960 There's always something new and interesting to see. 104 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,880 And I go there every couple of months. 105 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Thank you, Mr. Jonathan. 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Here's our next question for you. 107 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:54,660 This question is about developments in technology. 108 00:06:54,660 --> 00:06:58,560 What are your thoughts on art and design being produced by artificial intelligence? 109 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Do people still consider this type of work to be legitimate? 110 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:07,920 Any new technology has the potential to disrupt and also any new technology has the potential 111 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,120 to create new opportunities. 112 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,760 So I think it's helpful to look back historically and think about the ways that new technology 113 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,280 have kind of disrupted industries in the past. 114 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,500 And so at one point in time, like oil painting was the height of technology. 115 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:29,120 That was the most advanced way that you could recreate an image in the world. 116 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:35,600 And then along comes photography and kind of replaces that the way that painting functionally 117 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,760 kind of served a purpose in society of kind of recording the natural world. 118 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,760 And the photograph could do that way faster, way easier and in some ways more accurately. 119 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,320 But painting didn't disappear. 120 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,200 It just kind of changed its roles and purposes. 121 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:55,680 And so a painting nowadays kind of freed up from that need to record reality for posterity. 122 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:02,360 And so we have all sorts of crazy painting genres that are kind of weird and cool and 123 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,360 interesting. 124 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,080 And so I think that's a really helpful lens when we're looking at AI art. 125 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,980 I think the technology is really interesting. 126 00:08:09,980 --> 00:08:18,680 So using a text prompt to generate an image is this really kind of amazing piece of technology. 127 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 But then the question is, what do you do with that? 128 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Or what is it being used for? 129 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,960 In some ways, it's being used to replace the role of making certain types of artwork. 130 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,920 And that's okay, because that always frees up artists to do different types of things. 131 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,960 Maybe it replaces some jobs for now, but it always creates more opportunity later. 132 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,080 I think it's helpful to remember that that model requires human created inputs, and then 133 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,040 it needs human curated prompts to get a meaningful output. 134 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,920 And so when you have human involvement at the beginning and at the end, then at what 135 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,960 point do you say that it's not a human generated artwork? 136 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,080 If it's serving as art, that's just kind of one small piece of that discussion. 137 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,520 And another huge piece is the question around the ethics of those models. 138 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,440 So how did the artwork that went into them get acquired? 139 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Was it kind of ethically sourced? 140 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,840 And did artists have an opportunity to not be included if they didn't want to be? 141 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,080 And so I think there's this huge question that's even going through the US Supreme 142 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Court right now. 143 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,960 To what extent should an artist be compensated for their inclusion? 144 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,640 And there's kind of something really, like we can all see the danger there of an artist 145 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,640 has spent their career building a style and a following. 146 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,320 And then if I could just type in, make me a painting in the style of James Gurney, what 147 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,320 does that do for his ability to get work in the future? 148 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Moving on, what are your thoughts about modern versus traditional? 149 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Do you have a preference? 150 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,200 Actually, art evolves over time. 151 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:55,800 So many of the ways that we talk about modern art now are a kind of a, there's an evolution 152 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,160 that's happened there, progressing through the centuries of how artists have thought 153 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,360 about design and the function of art in society. 154 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,180 The way a photograph has kind of changed the way art has to record or preserve realism 155 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:15,380 in some way frees art to be more than just a recording of the natural world. 156 00:10:15,380 --> 00:10:21,160 Modern art can often seem disconnected from our everyday experience. 157 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,760 And so that just requires a new kind of literacy, visual literacy in order to engage with it. 158 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,180 So I think everybody should go visit an art museum and spend some time learning about 159 00:10:32,180 --> 00:10:39,740 why that painting of splatters is important because there's technological and cultural 160 00:10:39,740 --> 00:10:42,220 innovation that led to that point. 161 00:10:42,220 --> 00:10:44,880 And it's really a beautiful and fascinating thing. 162 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,000 I think we all have different personal preferences that we bring to artwork. 163 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,880 And so every style isn't necessarily going to target your heartstrings in the same way 164 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,560 as the person next to you. 165 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:56,560 And that's okay. 166 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:02,160 Yeah, finding that type of art that connects to you and that you're following in that tradition. 167 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,020 In our modern day, we have plethora of artistic styles. 168 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:11,880 And so people find those sources of inspiration in the past and then they push that style 169 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,080 further forward in the future. 170 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,720 That's very interesting, Mr. Jonathan. 171 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,680 But here's the last question for you. 172 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:19,920 We would like to ask our guest for some advice. 173 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,240 So what advice would you give to anyone who loves art and design and wants to rake into 174 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,200 the industry and business side? 175 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Talking earlier about different career paths, there are so many different directions you 176 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,640 could go. 177 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,800 It's hard to give good advice to any specific person without knowing the direction that 178 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:36,800 they're interested in. 179 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,000 And so that's kind of my advice. 180 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,800 It would be to find that specific career path that really kind of connects to you personally. 181 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,640 And then I would go like look at what the entry level job description for that field 182 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,640 says. 183 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Usually there's some specific skills or knowledge that are necessary to be effective in that 184 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,540 industry. 185 00:11:55,540 --> 00:12:01,640 And if you begin to kind of tailor your classes or personal study to lead you in that direction, 186 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,600 even now that could give you a really great foundation moving forward into whatever direction 187 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,600 you want to go. 188 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:19,400 And with that, we'll be right back after a short PSA announcement from our co-host. 189 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,520 There is a teacher gallery show coming soon. 190 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,200 So check your calendars where ICS art teachers will be showcasing their artworks. 191 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,520 The gallery show features 2D and 3D art, including pottery, sculptures, paintings, drawings, 192 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,520 and more. 193 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,240 Many of these artworks have been carefully crafted for months. 194 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,400 So be sure to show up and give your art teacher support. 195 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Feel free to check out the community art show today while you wait for the teacher gallery. 196 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,400 We are back with part two. 197 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,960 We will now be interviewing two student artists from our school. 198 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,220 Lyon will start us off with the first question. 199 00:12:50,220 --> 00:12:51,220 Welcome to our podcast. 200 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:53,160 We are very excited to interview you. 201 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Introduce yourselves, please. 202 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,440 My name is Spa and I'm a senior this year. 203 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,880 I'm Anna and I'm also a senior this year. 204 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,760 Our follow up question for you is, how long have you been creating art? 205 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 I started making art since sixth grade. 206 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,680 I started when I was a kid. 207 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:12,840 I started my first painting when I was in fifth grade. 208 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Where do you take inspiration from for your art? 209 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,260 Personally, for me, there are a variety of places that I get my inspiration from. 210 00:13:19,260 --> 00:13:20,880 For example, other artists. 211 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:27,080 Another thing that really helped me brainstorm my new art ideas would be like just the mundane 212 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,780 things in life. 213 00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:34,140 So like looking at different elements in nature or even problems that I'm interested in could 214 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:37,760 lead to like artworks inspired by activism. 215 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:43,560 I think I would take my inspiration from everyday things just like Spa said, but also as an 216 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:48,080 artist, I'm not going to lie, there's times when my inspiration runs out. 217 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,880 So like I run to Pinterest. 218 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,540 Thank you for your answers. 219 00:13:51,540 --> 00:13:55,420 Last December, the ICS Art Club was able to go to the Banksy Art Exhibit. 220 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:56,680 Were you able to attend? 221 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,300 If not, what do you hear about it? 222 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:00,920 But if you were able to go, what did you observe? 223 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,640 I wasn't able to attend it, but Anna here is the president of the club that led the 224 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,640 field trip. 225 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,120 So I'll let her explain. 226 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Yeah, our club, National Art Honor Society and Start with Art Club, was able to go to 227 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:22,200 the Banksy exhibit and there was like around 20 people who went and I'd say Banksy's art 228 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,600 style is kind of catered towards current world problems. 229 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:32,760 At the exhibit, you could see a bunch of artworks that had like an amusement park theme, but 230 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,640 then it were kind of like gruesome and showing the reality of the problems in this world. 231 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,600 And the viewer, they had to like interpret the art themselves, which I thought was a 232 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 super cool thing about his style. 233 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,680 How have you exercised your passion for art at school? 234 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 I take various different number of art classes. 235 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,640 So last year I took AP art, this year I'm also taking another AP art course and I've 236 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,680 taken the intermediate art classes as well. 237 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:08,680 But I feel like because there's so much range, at least in ICS, I'm able to practice both 238 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,240 my 3D and 2D skills. 239 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,240 I also took a bunch of art classes. 240 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,160 I actually took all of them that ICS had to offer. 241 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:23,160 And this year I'm taking three, including like AP art and advanced art. 242 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:29,120 And I think this school has a huge range of things that you can explore, which I really 243 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,800 appreciate because in a lot of other schools, artists are kind of minimized. 244 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Are you a member of any clubs or have you participated in any of the art shows? 245 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,960 I'm a member of different clubs, but the one that is art related would be ANNIS Club. 246 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,200 I just started with art and NAHS. 247 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,080 And through those clubs, I've also been able to participate in various art shows. 248 00:15:53,080 --> 00:16:00,760 So AP, there's an AP art show at the end during May, but for ANNIS clubs, there has been different 249 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,060 like art shows where we've gotten the opportunity to showcase our artworks. 250 00:16:05,060 --> 00:16:10,520 There's also been an auction, right, that gave us a chance to like show our work while 251 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,820 also contributing to a good cost. 252 00:16:13,820 --> 00:16:19,040 My club had different murals that you could paint downstairs. 253 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:25,680 In high school, you could see the Soaring Higher Eagles mural and also near Miss Debbie's 254 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,780 room, you could see a community mural. 255 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:30,020 And those are just two of them. 256 00:16:30,020 --> 00:16:36,840 But we had a bunch of opportunities to display our art as well as like the art auction that 257 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,160 just happened two weeks ago. 258 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:45,200 And that was able to help families in need and feed them. 259 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,800 And as for art shows, we do one every semester for AP art. 260 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,880 So some of our things have been in there. 261 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,200 Our next question is, will you be pursuing a career in art or related field? 262 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:03,960 Yeah, so I will be pending SAIC or the School of Art Institute of Chicago this fall. 263 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:13,320 And through that, I'll be taking a fine arts degree where I'll be focusing on visual communications 264 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,720 and painting. 265 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,760 I'm also going to be doing an art major at Sandbox School of Art and Design in Washington 266 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,960 University in St. Louis. 267 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,120 And I don't know what career path I'm going to take with that, but I'm kind of wanting 268 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:33,440 to integrate art with social work or helping other people. 269 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,600 What advice would you give to aspiring artists? 270 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,040 For me, I'd say that it's important to not be so hard on yourself. 271 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:46,740 I feel like personally, I perform much worse under pressure. 272 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:51,520 And there was a time period where art became less enjoyable because I had so much pressure 273 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,400 on myself to create a certain type of artwork with certain expectations. 274 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:02,060 But I feel like when I just let my creativity flow and create the artworks that I truly 275 00:18:02,060 --> 00:18:07,840 enjoy or am passionate about, then my artworks turn out much better. 276 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,400 Also, your art is no worse or better than other people's. 277 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,600 You shouldn't compare yourself to others because art is definitely subjective. 278 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,400 You can literally throw paint on a canvas and call it art, and people will buy that 279 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,280 for millions of dollars. 280 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,440 Art is subjective, and you shouldn't compare yourself because that only makes you feel 281 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,680 worse by yourself and in turn makes your art worse too. 282 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,700 And with that, we are running out of time, but we'd like to thank Mr. Jonathan and Anna 283 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,520 and Fah for joining us today. 284 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:48,120 It's been a pleasure to learn about the industry of art and some of your personal stories. 285 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:52,360 As we end this episode, we'd like to thank our guests and listeners for supporting us 286 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:54,880 as we release weekly episodes. 287 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,680 Make sure to listen to all our past shows as they are available on all major streaming 288 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,680 platforms. 289 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,920 The upcoming episode will be about the topic of user experience in education and business. 290 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,000 As always, this podcast would not be possible without the hard work and support of our international 291 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,560 student production team. 292 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,400 All music and sound effects are courtesy of Pixabay.com, a vibrant community of creatives 293 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,880 sharing copyright free images, videos, and music. 294 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,040 And we are signing off until next time. 295 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,880 Your students, incorporate it because your voice matters.