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Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast where we dive into relevant topics and issues

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related to the world of business, technology, education, and design.

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I'm your host, Mr. Jason.

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Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders, and inspirational stories

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with an international flavor.

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This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok.

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In today's episode, we'll be discussing music and sound with Mr. Christian and Mrs. Sara.

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We don't often think about music and sound and how it affects our daily lives, so we

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are happy to hear from our guest about how their lives have been changed through their

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work and their teaching in this area.

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But before that, let's hear our quote of the day.

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Thank you, Mr. Jason.

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Today's quote is from Bob Marley.

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He said,

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One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.

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Bob Marley was a Jamaican singer, musician, and songwriter.

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His style was influential to reggae music and popularized the genre as a whole to the

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mainstream.

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Marley became a keys Rastafari figure, and his lyrics often had spiritual aspect.

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A fun fact about him is that his full name is Robert Nesta Marley.

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The San Francisco Police Department is now allowed to use robots in cases.

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This allows police officers to stay safe while robots can use lethal force to defeat offenders.

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Deadly force will only be used in extreme circumstances.

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On a positive note, medical drones are being dispatched in the UK.

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England's National Health Service will use drones to deliver chemotherapy drugs to patients

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living on the Isle of Wight.

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The drones help reduce the delivery time from 4 hours to 30 minutes.

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Construction for a floating city is beginning in the Maldives.

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It will house 20,000 people and will consist of houses, shops, restaurants, a school, and

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a hospital.

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The design for the island was inspired by the brain coral found in the Indian Ocean,

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and the construction will be completed by 2027.

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Thank you for the quote and the news headlines.

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Let's welcome Mrs. Sara and Mr. Christian for this segment.

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Thank you so much for joining us.

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For our first question, can you please introduce yourself and let us know what inspired you

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to get into music?

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Yeah, I'm Christian Sarazin, and what inspired me?

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I took piano lessons when I was younger, and so I had a little bit of a musical background,

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but I didn't join band until I was a junior in high school.

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And that was because my grandpa gave me his old trombone one time as a Christmas present.

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He was a trombone player in the Army band back in the day.

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So my mom signed me up for band without me even knowing, and there I was as a beginner,

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as a junior in high school.

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But I fell in love with it.

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The director was really good, and I had some friends in the class, and I just really loved

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it.

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And I thought, where has this been my whole life?

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I remember my band director saying after a great rehearsal one time, our song finished,

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and he just looked around and said, I've got the best job in the world.

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I remember I was a senior at that point, thinking about college and what to major in and what

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to do with my life, and I thought, there it is.

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That's the best job in the world, then I'll go for that.

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So I got a music education degree, and I've been a band director ever since.

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And I'm Sarah Nordblom, and I'm the orchestra teacher here at ICS.

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This is my second year teaching here.

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And when I was growing up, music always played a big part in my life.

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As me and my three siblings all played orchestra instruments, my dad taught music and led choir

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and band at church, and I attended a special music school for the most part of my school

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years.

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And I felt playing in orchestra and singing in choirs were my favorite hobbies and were

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I felt at home the most.

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And then during high school, my skills developed more rapidly, and then my best friends were

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also pursuing the same goals.

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And then I decided music would be my first choice as a career.

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And that's how I ended up studying cello performance and music pedagogy.

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Some people say that music helps them work.

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What are your thoughts on the benefits that music and sound have on productivity?

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Sure, music can affect your mood.

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It can affect your attitude and your state of mind.

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And it can drastically change the atmosphere of any room or event.

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And I think it affects people differently, but I think we can say it affects people one

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way or the other.

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For me personally, I guess maybe because I'm musically trained, my brain just always wants

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to listen to the music.

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So it's very hard for me to have music on and do any sort of cognitive work at the same

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time.

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I love having music going on when it's just some sort of mindless chore like washing the

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dishes or doing something that I don't have to think about.

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I'll have music playing all the time.

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But whenever I have to grade or study or write something, I got to have silence.

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It's funny though, the things that I, the one genre of music that I can sort of study to

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is like lo-fi hip hop.

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And I've come to like lo-fi hip hop, like Studio Ghibli and things like that.

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So I'll put that on sometimes.

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But I can't have any sort of, especially classical music, because I just will listen to the classical

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music instead.

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Yeah, I totally agree with that.

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Yeah, I can't listen to any actual music when I try to work, do any cognitive type of tasks.

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But I really enjoy listening to music when I drive.

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It can be anything when I drive in the car or when I do some like cooking or something

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like that.

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But I also don't like working in complete silence.

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So I prefer like cafes where there's a bus around me.

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So that's where I can focus the most.

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But I totally understand that for many people listening to music, like for example Mozart,

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Beethoven or any kind of music you like, can enhance your productivity.

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Like if you don't focus on the actual music so much.

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Speaking of work and productivity, could you please describe your roles here at ICS?

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For me, I teach four string orchestras, three different levels in middle school and one

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in high school.

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And in addition to this, I teach AP music theory.

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And we put together four concerts a year.

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So in addition to the day to day teaching of different instruments and their basic techniques,

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we prepare a lot of music for these concerts.

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And then we really organize the events and this takes quite a bit of time.

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It's good to do it in collaboration with Mr. Krischer.

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It's true.

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Yeah, my job matches Mrs. Sara's except for I do band instead.

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And I also don't teach an AP class.

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Instead, I do the choir.

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So we have one class of middle school choir as well.

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And I direct that.

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How is teaching music at ICS different from your past experiences?

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Yeah, I'll tell you the number one thing that is different about this job.

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I've had three different appointments before here and in each place I started the band

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program or the school did not have a program before.

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And so I started with beginners and kind of grew it up for the duration of my tenure there.

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Here is the first time that I'm filling someone else's shoes.

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So Mr. Cody has here for the last three years.

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And it's been it's been good because I'm coming in with experienced students.

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So I don't have to start back at the beginning again.

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But it's also hard because I want to try to build upon his legacy and make sure that it

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improves.

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For me, on the other hand, this is my first time actually teaching in this kind of program.

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In Finland, we even don't have the similar types of programs at schools.

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But I would say I just really love being in a community like this with great admins.

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And I think here we all support and encourage each other.

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Moving on, since music plays such a significant role in your life.

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What do you think life would be like without music?

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That's a hard question to answer because it's like a hypothetical world.

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I don't know what life would be without music.

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I would probably just choose something else instead.

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Something else to be passionate about.

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But music is a it's such a combination of many things.

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It has history and the arts and mathematics and teamwork like like a sport in many ways.

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So it's really the culmination of a lot of different passions kind of into one.

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That's one reason why I love it.

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Yeah, I really don't know.

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I'd have to fill the void with something else.

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What would you feel?

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Oh, wow.

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That's deep.

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I didn't even go that deep.

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I just thought about like my life very selfishly.

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So at least for me, it would be much less satisfying and colorful.

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As for me, music is an important way of just being and expressing myself.

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And I'm so much more content when I have music in my life.

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Because there was a time in my life when I went long periods without playing music or

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giving it much time because of other commitments.

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And however, every time I taught cello lessons or joined orchestra projects, even my friends

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commented how those clearly were the things that made me the happiest.

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So what are some challenges that came with organizing and producing a large concert?

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Is that just the Christmas concert that just happened?

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I think some of the biggest challenges are that I have to think so far in advance.

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I'm already planning the next concert as far as choosing music, because you've got to choose

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the music well in advance so you can start rehearsing it.

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And that requires me knowing my students, what strengths I have, what styles and try

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to get a good diversity of different styles of music in different key signatures.

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I got to think of my percussionists playing different instruments, not being on the same

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instrument the whole time.

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So there's a lot of things to think through far in advance.

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And then closer to the concert, there's a lot of details that I think sometimes go unnoticed.

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I'm always worrying that I'm forgetting about something.

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But just last night I was going over the program, making sure I spelled all these really long

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tie-last names correctly and things that maybe people wouldn't think that you had to think

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about as far as planning a concert.

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Yeah, the same for me.

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I think it really takes a long time and there's trial and error when you're choosing the right

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music for your ensembles.

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And you might even need to change some music last minute.

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And then there's the concert organization, which he explains really well.

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Our next question is, how has music improved your students' lives in terms of academics,

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attitude and health?

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Yeah, my students would probably have to answer this themselves.

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But what I see in many students is that music clearly provides them the same kind of home

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and creative outlet that it has been for me.

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And this way it can improve their lives holistically.

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But obviously playing instruments is not pure bliss.

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You need to work hard to make progress.

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And anyway, that's ultimately a very rewarding process.

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And you will see the fruit of your labor when you can play even the hard spots in your songs.

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And then it becomes enjoyable and it's stressful.

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Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.

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I got to ask my students.

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So PK is right here.

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You can answer the question for me.

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Oh yeah, sure.

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I mean, I feel like band is like a getaway for me because from all the stress and like

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the work and stuff from school, I got pretty stressed sometimes of like whenever I hop

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into the band room, I grab my saxophone and start playing, I feel like everything's like

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off my shoulders.

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Yeah, it really like helped me relax in the school days and stuff.

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I really want to be able to give my students what I got as a student.

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And I remember just loving band so much and just I can't believe that anyone would love

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band as much as I did.

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And so sometimes I'm always afraid my students are going to every time they make a complaint,

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I take it personally.

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Oh, they don't like the music or oh, it's too hard or too easy.

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But I have to remember there's more important things.

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But I do really care about my students passing on that same love for music.

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Even if they don't become band directors themselves, they can look back and appreciate the things

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they learned and feel like they were part of something really awesome.

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We would like to end this segment on a lighter note.

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What are some of your favorite movie soundtracks?

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I love a lot of very different kinds of music.

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And it's hard to name favorites because it totally depends on my mood.

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It can be basically almost anything.

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But I'm oldish and who doesn't love the Lord of the Rings soundtrack.

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And then I have a newer favorite composer, Ola Gjelå, a Norwegian composer residing

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in the States.

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So he composes mainly choral and piano music, and I found his music during a hard time in

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my life a few years ago.

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And his music is very calming, hopeful and uplifting.

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And for this season, his album Winter Songs is amazing if you look for something peaceful

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amidst the usual cheery holiday songs.

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This is a great question because I love soundtracks.

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And when I'm so old that when I was in high school, I was still buying CDs.

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So that's what I would spend my money on is CDs, not of the cool popular bands that my

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friends were buying, but of soundtracks.

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So I would watch a movie and think, oh, I got that soundtrack and I would buy it.

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So I still have at my parents' house, stored away in an attic, this big cage collection

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of CDs that I can't get rid of.

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But choosing a favorite is very difficult.

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You've got to go with John Williams since he's just the all-star film track composer.

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Probably a close second favorite would be John Powell.

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And he's done some funner tunes.

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He did the Shrek, which was just performed, the movie music for that.

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He also did How to Train Your Dragon, which is one of my favorite soundtracks.

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So much so that that was actually my walkout music to my wedding.

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So me and my wife got married and How to Train Your Dragon played right after that.

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It was pretty epic.

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OK, with that last question, thank you so much for joining us.

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It's been a wonderful experience to have you on the podcast.

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Now let's hear the PSA before our next segment.

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One, two, three, four.

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Don't forget, everybody, exam week is coming up.

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Put on your anxiety hats and begin studying now so that you're not cramming everything

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last minute.

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If you have any conflicting exams, inform your teachers to ensure you can take all your

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exams.

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You may be wondering why are exams important?

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There are two types of exams, summative and formative.

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Summative exams, also known as assessments, assess the learning of the participants at

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the end of a program.

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It's not only a reflection of what the students have learned, but also measures the effectiveness

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of the curriculum taught.

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Teachers are also tested through them.

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And remember, no matter what grades you get, it's totally fine.

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Grades do not define who you are.

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Good luck with all your exams, everyone.

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Thank you for that announcement about upcoming exams.

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We are back for part two and I am with Mr. Christian and some student musicians.

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We are currently all in a place where a lot of music magic happens, AKA a band, strings

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and choir room.

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Can you all say hi to our listeners?

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All right, thank you.

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Okay, a while ago, the Students Incorporated team asked Mr. Christian if he could recreate

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the intro music we use in our episodes.

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It was a big request, so we are super thankful you all took on the challenge.

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So we are here today to get a live recording of what you have all come up with.

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All right, but before we get into the music, Mr. Christian, could you describe the process

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of how you did this and if you ran into any challenges along the way?

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Well, we just got sent the music and I listened to it and tried to transcribe it, which is

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kind of a fun process.

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Some people have really good ear can just copy something the moment they hear it.

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For me, it took a few times listening over and over again and trying to figure it out

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and then writing it out in a music notation software and then handing it out to the students

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and they nailed it the first time.

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So it was a fun, fun project to work on.

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All right, we are ready.

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I'll turn it over to Mr. Christian now.

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Thank you.

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whoo celebrateuries

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celebrate's

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As we end this episode, we'd like to thank our guests for joining us.

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It's been fascinating to learn about music and sound and how it impacts all of us in

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different ways.

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A special thank you to the ICS band students as well.

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We wish everyone in the strings, band, and voice concert the very best as you continue

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to pursue excellence in music and sound.

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Please stay tuned for more episodes about exciting and engaging topics.

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We will be joined by some special elementary students for next week's episode.

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You're not going to want to miss.

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As always, this podcast would not be possible without the hard work and support of our international

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student production team.

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All music and sound effects are courtesy of Pixabay.com, a vibrant community of creatives

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sharing copyright-free images, videos, and music.

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And we are signing off until next time.

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We're Students Incorporated because your voice matters.

