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Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast where we dive into relevant topics and issues

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related to the world of business, technology, education, and design.

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I'm your host, Mr. Jason.

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Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders, and inspirational stories

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with an international flavor.

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This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok.

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In today's episode, we explore the topic of literature and storytelling, its importance,

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and how it connects to our lives.

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I'm joined by our co-host, Lyon and Linda.

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We also welcome our special guest, Mr. Mark.

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In keeping with our tradition, let's hear the quote of the day before we begin.

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Thank you, Mr. Jason.

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Today's quote is by G.K.

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Chesterton.

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He stated that literature is luxury and fiction is a necessity.

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In local news, major flooding is happening across Thailand.

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Some roads have been shut down and some travel has been restricted.

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Some worry that the flooding may hurt the economy.

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And regionally, in Singapore, almost 6 out of 10 people find that buying or renting property

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has become unaffordable.

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This is mostly due to the lack of construction during the pandemic, which delayed the building

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of many homes.

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In global news, Queen Elizabeth II recently passed away.

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At the age of 96, she was Britain's longest-serving monarch.

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She passed away in Scotland and her funeral was held on September 19.

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King Charles III is the new current monarch of England.

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Thank you for those headline news, Linda.

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Let's jump into part one with Mr. Mark.

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First of all, Mr. Mark, I'd like to say thank you for coming up this early to be on our

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podcast.

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Yeah.

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But our first question for you today is a very simple one, all right?

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I think you can answer this.

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Can you tell us where you're from and how many years you've been part of the ICS community

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and what your current role is?

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Sure.

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I'm from the US.

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I grew up in the state of Oklahoma.

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I've been at ICS for nine years.

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The first seven were as an English teacher.

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Two years ago, I transitioned to the role of secondary assistant principal.

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I've been interested in maybe doing admin for a while, and I really like that it's a

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role where I get to be in teachers' classrooms and kind of coach teachers in the same way

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that I coach students.

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Since you were previously an English teacher, what do you love about literature and what

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significance do you think literature plays in our lives?

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Maybe something like what is your philosophy of literature?

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Is that such a thing?

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Yeah, that's a good question.

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I remember the last few years in my classroom, I kind of had a slide that I shared on the

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first day where I kind of laid out a few reasons why I love teaching literature.

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I kind of actually had three points that I would make about literature.

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I love literature because it communicates big ideas unlike anything else.

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I think that the way that you can build complicated characters and create complicated conflicts

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I think enables people to explore complex ideas in a unique way.

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I think my second point was literature encourages empathy in a really unique way, the way that

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you can kind of inhabit the shoes of a character.

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And the third point was just that I think that beauty really matters in our lives.

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That created people and creative people, I think that we need to take beauty seriously

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and take seriously pursuing it.

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That's a very interesting and philosophical idea, Mr. Mark.

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I never really thought about literature in that way before.

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Thank you.

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Shifting to a lighter question, what are some of your favorite books or literature genres

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and who are some of your favorite authors?

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I like a lot of different kinds of literature.

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If you're talking about poetry, I'm a pretty old school guy.

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I really like, honestly, a lot of my favorite poets are like classic British poets.

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Since being at ICS, I've just really enjoyed reading kind of a variety of international

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authors.

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I think that is like a cool way to engage with my very international students.

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I think for a favorite, my students would tell you that I really love a guy named Wendell

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If you take the AP literature course here, you'll read him.

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But he's a really interesting guy.

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He writes fiction, nonfiction, and poetry.

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So he writes kind of everything, and he's most known for writing about kind of environmentalism

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and responsible agriculture, but then also writes a lot about community and politics

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and kind of society at large.

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And yeah, he probably has inspired me more than any other author.

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Can I jump in really quick?

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Wendell Berry really inspired Coleman.

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That was something he came home a lot about and talked.

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And so my wife and I kind of looked up, who's this Wendell Berry character?

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And yeah, his philosophy was great.

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Just his, I guess, outlook on how we are to be caretakers of like creation and the things

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that God's given us.

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So that was great through your influence and through our son's influence.

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My wife and I also enjoyed Wendell Berry.

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Next question, if you could recommend several books or works of literature, maybe two or

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three, what would they be and why?

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Would you say these have had an influence in your life?

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I think books, literature have been super influential when I think about kind of ways

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that I've shifted my mindset and thinking.

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Honestly, I think my go-to answer for that is you should take either world literature

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or AP literature because I, in your senior year, because I think both of those classes

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I kind of built from the ground up and kind of selected books and inevitably I selected

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a lot of my favorite books to read in those classes.

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Well, thank you for that ad for your class.

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Anyway, were you always interested in literature from a young age?

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Like do you start reading when you were a kid or do you like to read?

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And what inspired you to become an English teacher?

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Yeah, it's a good question.

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I guess it's a little bit unique in that I was not a reader as a kid.

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I remember it was something my parents really tried to push, but they would have to be kind

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of more forceful when I was younger.

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For me, it was really, I had an excellent English teacher my junior year and then a

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really excellent English teacher my senior year.

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Those are probably my two favorite teachers of high school.

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And so, yeah, I get really excited when students of mine have said that they're interested

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in being teachers because that's kind of what happened to me.

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I was inspired to be a teacher by teachers.

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Wait, I have an off topic question, but what kind of book does the Bible classify as?

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Is it a novel?

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Is it a historical text or what is it?

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The Bible is a collection of books, so you shouldn't view it as being of one genre.

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I think you should view it as a collection, an artifact that was compiled over thousands

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of years.

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And it's a really complicated thing.

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Oh, thank you.

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Thank you for that.

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A collection.

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I like that.

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Hey, and with that, we will be right back with Mr. Mark, educator, literature guru,

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and the moonlighting English teacher.

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Thank you to everyone who donated and wore your caps.

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We are back with part two with Mr. Mark.

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In this segment, we'd like to discuss your side gig, if that's OK.

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It's pretty cool.

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And I don't think very many people know that you are inspiring thousands through your own

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show on YouTube called A Moonlighting English Teacher, which, by the way, the last time

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I checked had almost five and a half thousand subscribers.

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Congratulations.

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I think Linda has our next question.

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Yes.

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Speaking of your show, what inspired you to create it and what was your vision for it?

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I mean, I think the first thing I would say is that I really like watching things like

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I really like, I guess you could say the genres, mostly video essays.

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And I guess it was a couple of years ago in COVID, I kind of had the thought like, oh,

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I should like give this a try.

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I think I'm often somebody that has something creative that I'm doing.

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And I found that it kind of brought together a lot of different creative avenues that I

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So it involves writing, because a lot of what I do is analyze films or books.

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So it kind of involves essay writing.

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I've done some music recording in the past.

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And so that's an element I've done as a teacher.

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I've kind of done the sort of thinking approach to work of literature from a point of view

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of wanting to explore it in a deeper way or inspire through it.

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And I would say the thing that I had the least experience with was video editing.

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So I learned quite a bit, but I keep it pretty simple.

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I just use iMovie on the Mac and PowerPoint for the extras.

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But yeah, I think the time and the wanting to have another creative avenue.

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I think nowadays I don't have quite the time for it that I used to.

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It takes a lot of time.

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It makes me respect people that do this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

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I think my last video was posted probably four months ago or something.

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So it's been a while.

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But I always have more ideas than I have time for.

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I think I have a list of like 30 to 40 ideas right now of videos that I like to make.

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So always too many ideas than I have time for.

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Is it possible to hire a production team or have an internship?

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I've got a question if I can jump in here.

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I watched a few episodes where you actually can show some clips of films.

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Was that a problem getting permission or being able just to show a clip?

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What was that like process for you?

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Yeah, it's a good learning curve for sure.

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For YouTube, the trickiest thing when it comes to copyright is actually music, which is kind

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of a bummer because the one video I have which has a lot of views has copyrighted music in

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it because it has to do with the musical Hamilton.

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So that's the only one that I can't monetize and get ads from.

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But the way that visuals work for YouTube is that it has kind of built in when you upload

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a video sort of like an automatic way that it can detect copyrighted material.

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And you'll find that if you keep clips short, that usually YouTube doesn't pick up on it.

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But sometimes, for example, my last video was on the movie Dead Poets Society and I

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think I had to re-upload it like 30 or 40 times.

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And every time it kept flagging, it'll upload and be like, oh, you can still do it, but

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it wouldn't allow me to monetize it basically and I would prefer it.

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So I've literally like 30 or 40 times I had to go back and like shorten this clip a little

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bit or so.

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Yeah, it's complicated.

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And sometimes it depends on who owns it.

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So I know that like Warner Brothers, for example, is like really well known for being really

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like difficult to make a video of their stuff because they're like really intense about

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copyright, whereas something maybe a little older like wouldn't be as big of a deal.

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Speaking of Hamilton, I love Hamilton.

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I really like history and with people singing about it, it's even better.

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And one of my favorite personal favorites is the show you did about the rhymes in Hamilton.

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What have been some of your favorite shows to make and why?

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Yeah, I've been some of my favorites.

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This last one on Dead Poets Society was pretty cool because it brought together kind of,

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I guess you could say it was my first time as this channel that kind of took its inspiration

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from being an English teacher.

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It was the first time I really directly talked about teaching.

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So that was pretty fun.

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It kind of allowed me to explore an educational thinker that actually Mr. Sean, our ninth

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grade teacher, he turned me on to this guy named Parker Palmer.

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And yeah, probably reading some of his books was sort of one of the most kind of influential

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things that I've done the last couple of years.

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And so yeah, brought together a lot of cool influences.

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And plus it's just a movie that every English teacher loves.

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Every English teacher loves Dead Poets Society.

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I remember watching that for the first time and thinking, I bet everybody's going to want

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to be an English teacher because there's a lot of inspiration and power that we can empower

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young people.

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I have another question for you, Mr. Mark.

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Why do you choose the name the Moonlighting English teacher as your YouTube channel name?

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Good question.

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So I would say it's got a couple of influences.

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So that if you don't know the idea of a moonlighting is the idea of having like a second job.

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So that was kind of like the initial like direct inspiration.

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But then I kind of like the idea and kind of like the motif of like of like moon lights

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and the way it kind of like reflects this source of brightness.

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And I guess I kind of see it as also a cool metaphor for for art and stories, the way

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that it reflects as a Christian, like a creative God that reflects kind of like this greater

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source of beauty.

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You can actually read there's a little blog that I have attached to the channel.

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And I wrote a poem about that that you can you can actually read if you're interested.

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I think it's called Moonlight.

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So moving on, is there a specific process you go through to choose a work of literature

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or cinema?

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And what is your process of thought in how you do your analysis once you have chosen

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a work?

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If you take my classes I used to teach, you'll you'll notice that quite a few of the videos

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are actually inspired by things that I taught in those classes.

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And I think the reason for that is when when you teach something, you kind of like automatically

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have a chance to really grow in understanding it in a deep way.

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And so you'll see videos about books like Life of Pi, The Book Thief, The Motorcycle

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Diaries.

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Yeah, these are all books that I've taught.

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I also try to being like a moonlighting English teacher, I also try to have some sort of like

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literary angle.

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So for example, a few videos back I did a video on the Disney movie Encanto and I tried

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I tried to capitalize on its popularity.

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for that movie was was probably the most famous Latin American author named Gabriel Garcia

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Marquez, who I really like and have read.

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And so I like that I was able to kind of put a literary spin on that on that analysis.

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And some of them are just some of my favorite shows or movies or just things that I've been

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interested in and thinking about.

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Thank you for that, Mr. Mark.

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But what type of themes or questions should the average person someone like myself, a

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person who hasn't studied literature or taught language arts classes, what kinds of things

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should we be searching for when we read or watch a literary work?

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I think the first thing that comes to mind is is just think about what sorts of what

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sorts of questions and topics that have interested you in and maybe some of your other classes.

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I think that I think that one of the unfortunate things about kind of an education system like

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ICS is almost how we kind of relegate classes, especially in like the what you would call

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the humanities, how we view like philosophy and history and psychology and sociology is

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like these very distinct different things, whereas I don't think, you know, in the real

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world, they're really not like they're they're sort of like all a part of all a part of kind

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of figuring out what it means to be a human and be a better human and growing our understanding

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of who we are as humans.

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And so I don't know, I really love whenever in class, whenever a student would make a

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connection to to AP Psych or to philosophy and worldview or to, you know, this history

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class over here or even to like a science class or something like that.

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So yeah, I think I would encourage you to look look for those connections across subject

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areas, because I think that that clues us into those like big deep questions that I

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think are the most important questions that humans can ask.

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Thank you for taking us into a deep dive of literature and story.

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As we end the segment, I do have one more question and it's a little bit on the shallower

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If you were to write a book or make a movie about a superhero, which one would it be and

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why and would you allow your kids to read or watch it?

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Deep question.

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It's hard because like I feel like I'm not I don't know a ton about like the superhero

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universes and obviously there's plenty of movies made about them.

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If you can make up a super hero.

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English man.

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If you can make up a super hero.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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English teacher, man.

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Inspiring students.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I mean, my gut answer probably just makes me think I think hands down the best superhero

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movies are are the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy.

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Now, like I as an English story guy, they're just the character of Batman is probably my

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my favorite in those movies.

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I think will always be the best for me.

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Yes, I agree.

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My six year old cannot watch this.

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Christopher Nolan.

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Great storyteller.

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Yeah, great storyteller.

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OK, before we end this episode, I'm going to off script a bit.

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OK, I'm going I'm going rogue, but I don't know if you watch this movie before.

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It's called Fight Club.

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I think a great movie, not ICA is appropriate at all, but still a great movie.

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I like the message it has.

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I want to see your take on it.

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So on your next video, can you do like a do analysis on Fight Club?

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I'll think about it.

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It was influenced by a novel, but I should I should we should talk later and we should

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try to find a new angle.

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It's a good old.

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OK, with that, you heard it first on this show with Mr. Mark.

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Look out Marvel and DC.

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Be sure to check out his YouTube channel named A Moonlighting English Teacher.

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Grab a bowl of popcorn and a notebook because you will definitely want to take some of your

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own notes as you look for intended themes and connecting story elements that make literature

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and storytelling such an important part of our lives.

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Thanks again, Mr. Mark.

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Thanks, guys.

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Before ending, we'd like to thank all of our listeners for joining us.

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