WEBVTT 00:00:10.830 --> 00:00:13.550 Welcome to Students Incorporated. I'm your host, 00:00:13.589 --> 00:00:16.329 Mr. Jason. Join me weekly as my students and 00:00:16.329 --> 00:00:18.870 I bring you content that's informative, positive, 00:00:19.030 --> 00:00:21.809 fun, and uplifting. This podcast is created and 00:00:21.809 --> 00:00:23.969 produced with the help of students from the International 00:00:23.969 --> 00:00:30.550 Community School of Bangkok. Hey everybody, Mr. 00:00:30.710 --> 00:00:34.009 Jason here. Today we are exploring a theme that 00:00:34.009 --> 00:00:36.710 I think every student and aspiring entrepreneur 00:00:36.710 --> 00:00:40.109 needs to hear. The power of legacy. Typically, 00:00:40.189 --> 00:00:43.409 when we discuss big business, we think of spreadsheets 00:00:43.409 --> 00:00:46.210 and sales. But today we're looking at the human 00:00:46.210 --> 00:00:49.030 side of leadership. We are joined by a guest 00:00:49.030 --> 00:00:52.409 who manages one of Thailand's most iconic exhibition 00:00:52.409 --> 00:00:56.189 empires, yet spends her heart and time giving 00:00:56.189 --> 00:00:59.950 smiles back to children who need them most. Joining 00:00:59.950 --> 00:01:02.289 me to lead this conversation are my co -host 00:01:02.289 --> 00:01:05.689 Esther and Pan. But before we jump into our first 00:01:05.689 --> 00:01:08.090 segment interview, let's hear our quote of the 00:01:08.090 --> 00:01:11.010 day and get some headline news. Our quote of 00:01:11.010 --> 00:01:13.370 the day comes from none other than Winston Churchill. 00:01:13.650 --> 00:01:16.129 I think this quote perfectly matches our guest's 00:01:16.129 --> 00:01:19.170 life story. Winston Churchill once said, we make 00:01:19.170 --> 00:01:22.109 a living by what we get, but we make a life by 00:01:22.109 --> 00:01:24.469 what we give. This quote really highlights the 00:01:24.469 --> 00:01:26.609 difference between material success and personal 00:01:26.609 --> 00:01:29.329 fulfillment. While we all work hard to build 00:01:29.329 --> 00:01:32.000 our careers and make a living. Churchill reminds 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.519 us that the true meaning of our lives is found 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.359 in how we contribute to others. It's a great 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:39.579 reminder to look for our ways to use our own 00:01:39.579 --> 00:01:42.000 talents and platforms to make a positive impact, 00:01:42.219 --> 00:01:45.260 no matter how busy we get. I think this sets 00:01:45.260 --> 00:01:47.439 a perfect tone for the conversation we're about 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.540 to have. And that's our quote of the day. Now 00:01:50.540 --> 00:01:54.040 on to some headline news for Bengal. Now. Here's 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.920 some headline news about upcoming expos coming 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:00.819 to Bangkok. Our first event will be Money Expo 00:02:00.819 --> 00:02:05.299 Bangkok 2026. It will take place from May 7 to 00:02:05.299 --> 00:02:09.879 10 at Impact Exhibition Convention Center. This 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.400 expo brings together banks, insurance providers, 00:02:12.740 --> 00:02:16.479 and financial technology companies. This event 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.500 will showcase new financial services. investment 00:02:19.500 --> 00:02:22.080 opportunities, and digital banking innovations, 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.800 highlighting how technology continues to reshape 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.240 the financial industry. Then, at the end of May, 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:33.939 from May 26 to 30, is a trade show put on by 00:02:33.939 --> 00:02:37.680 Tyfex Anuka Asia, which has positioned itself 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:42.360 as Asia's F &B powerhouse. This expo that will 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.520 be held at Impact Arena in Bangkok is recognized 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.759 as one of Asia's largest food and beverage trade 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:52.120 exhibitions. The event will welcome thousands 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:55.879 of exhibitors from around the world. The showcase 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.819 will feature new food products, industry technologies, 00:03:00.139 --> 00:03:04.139 and culinary trends, reinforcing Thailand's role 00:03:04.139 --> 00:03:07.240 as a major hub for international food trade. 00:03:07.849 --> 00:03:11.409 And finally, our last headline takes us to the 00:03:11.409 --> 00:03:14.289 Bangkok International Trade and Exhibition Center, 00:03:14.490 --> 00:03:17.389 or better known as BITEC for short. BITEC will 00:03:17.389 --> 00:03:20.469 be hosting both the Thailand Franchise and Business 00:03:20.469 --> 00:03:25.370 Opportunities 2026 and the Asian Retail 2026 00:03:25.370 --> 00:03:30.270 shows from June 4 to 7. These events bring together 00:03:30.270 --> 00:03:34.110 franchise brands, retail innovators, and investors 00:03:34.110 --> 00:03:37.830 from across the region. This joint event helps 00:03:37.830 --> 00:03:41.050 create new partnerships and highlights the rapid 00:03:41.050 --> 00:03:44.650 growth of Southeast Asia's retail and franchise 00:03:44.650 --> 00:03:48.210 sectors. And that is our headline event news 00:03:48.210 --> 00:03:51.969 for Bangkok for this episode. Thank you for the 00:03:51.969 --> 00:03:54.550 quote in the headline news. For our first segment, 00:03:54.669 --> 00:03:57.669 we're honored to welcome Ms. Ching to our studio 00:03:57.669 --> 00:04:00.710 today. She helps lead Union Pan Exhibitions, 00:04:00.889 --> 00:04:03.789 one of Thailand's premier consumer fair organizations, 00:04:04.129 --> 00:04:07.569 and she also serves as a Smile Ambassador for 00:04:07.569 --> 00:04:10.569 Operation Smile Thailand. I'll hand over the 00:04:10.569 --> 00:04:13.449 mic to Pun to get us started. Welcome to the 00:04:13.449 --> 00:04:16.029 show, Kun Ching. We are so happy to have you. 00:04:17.709 --> 00:04:19.810 Get us started. Please introduce yourself to 00:04:19.810 --> 00:04:22.110 our listeners and tell us a little bit about 00:04:22.110 --> 00:04:27.870 the scope of your work. Yes. Hi, I'm Jing. I'm 00:04:27.870 --> 00:04:33.990 a Board of Directors at Unipan Exhibitions and 00:04:33.990 --> 00:04:38.670 also as my ambassador for Operation Smile Thailand 00:04:38.670 --> 00:04:42.529 Foundation. And my company is a family -owned. 00:04:43.209 --> 00:04:48.410 I'm a third generation. It's a well -known consumer 00:04:48.410 --> 00:04:53.310 fair exhibitions organizer in Thailand. I helped 00:04:53.310 --> 00:04:56.209 Operation Smile for the past 10 years already. 00:04:57.170 --> 00:05:01.290 I think you guys will be familiar with this foundation. 00:05:03.389 --> 00:05:07.149 It provides the free surgery to repair cleft 00:05:07.149 --> 00:05:11.889 lip and cleft palate as well as post -operative 00:05:11.889 --> 00:05:15.829 care including speech pathologies and orthodontics. 00:05:16.930 --> 00:05:22.149 Now I have two children. First one is seven years 00:05:22.149 --> 00:05:25.250 old now and the second one is three years old. 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.120 That is such a massive responsibility you have 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:32.379 to take care of. You are carrying on a huge legacy. 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.600 What is it like really to be one of the leaders 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.699 in your family's company, Union Pen Exhibition? 00:05:39.620 --> 00:05:42.819 Being part of a family business is both an honor 00:05:42.819 --> 00:05:47.040 and a responsibility. Union Pen Exhibition has 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.379 been part of Thailand exhibition industry for 00:05:49.379 --> 00:05:52.939 like over four decades. So there is a strong 00:05:52.939 --> 00:05:58.259 legacy to carry forward. For me, It's about respecting 00:05:58.259 --> 00:06:01.139 the foundations that previous generation built, 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:04.339 while also bringing new ideas to help the company 00:06:04.339 --> 00:06:08.660 grow in changing world. I focus on strengthening 00:06:08.660 --> 00:06:12.199 in organization internally, especially in areas 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.379 like human resource development, strategic planning, 00:06:15.620 --> 00:06:18.740 and modern marketing, so that the company can 00:06:18.740 --> 00:06:22.160 continue to grow sustainably with our clients 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:26.110 and partners. Wow, that's very insightful. Let's 00:06:26.110 --> 00:06:28.050 move on to our next question. Thinking about 00:06:28.050 --> 00:06:32.269 that legacy, can you share a project or a specific 00:06:32.269 --> 00:06:34.670 moment you're most proud of in your career so 00:06:34.670 --> 00:06:39.389 far? One of the moments I feel most proud of 00:06:39.389 --> 00:06:42.790 is helping refreshing the brand and organization 00:06:42.790 --> 00:06:48.069 structures. The company I approached this year 00:06:48.069 --> 00:06:55.430 is 46 years already. nearly like half a century. 00:06:55.829 --> 00:07:01.329 So we have to learn to adapt with the new things. 00:07:01.709 --> 00:07:05.629 We also work on modernizing our internal system 00:07:05.629 --> 00:07:10.209 and repositioning the brand so that it remains 00:07:10.209 --> 00:07:14.709 relevant in today's digital era. Seeing the company 00:07:14.709 --> 00:07:17.050 evolve while maintaining the trust of long -term 00:07:17.050 --> 00:07:20.170 clients has been very meaningful to me. It's 00:07:20.170 --> 00:07:22.610 inspiring to hear how those big moments shaped 00:07:22.610 --> 00:07:25.850 your career, and it's clear you stayed very grounded 00:07:25.850 --> 00:07:28.610 through it all. Thinking about your foundation, 00:07:28.949 --> 00:07:32.149 what values from your education or personal life 00:07:32.149 --> 00:07:35.250 guide the way you approach your work each day? 00:07:35.709 --> 00:07:38.769 My study in local economic development and London 00:07:38.769 --> 00:07:42.089 School of Economic and Political Science taught 00:07:42.089 --> 00:07:44.329 me to think about how business can contribute 00:07:44.329 --> 00:07:48.379 to broader economies. community growth. So in 00:07:48.379 --> 00:07:51.500 my work, I always try to think beyond just the 00:07:51.500 --> 00:07:54.879 company itself. Exhibitions and fair are not 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.920 only business platform. They also create opportunity 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.819 for entrepreneurs, small business and local industry 00:08:00.819 --> 00:08:06.120 to go. On a personal level, I value intricacies, 00:08:06.379 --> 00:08:09.519 responsibility and empathy. This value guides 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:12.980 how I work with colleagues, partner and the community. 00:08:13.709 --> 00:08:17.149 Wow, those values clearly act as a compass for 00:08:17.149 --> 00:08:19.970 your leadership. Well, since we're talking about, 00:08:19.970 --> 00:08:22.629 you know, the way you work, let's now look at 00:08:22.629 --> 00:08:25.689 the industry itself. So looking toward the horizon 00:08:25.689 --> 00:08:28.790 or the future, how do you see the role of exhibitions 00:08:28.790 --> 00:08:31.970 and fairs evolving in Thailand in the next few 00:08:31.970 --> 00:08:36.059 years? I believe exhibition will continue to 00:08:36.059 --> 00:08:38.740 play an important role in Thailand's economies, 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.639 but they will evolve to become more experience 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:47.259 -driven and digitally integrated. Today, people 00:08:47.259 --> 00:08:50.399 are not just looking for product. They want meaningful 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:55.279 interactions, like networking opportunities and 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.549 inspirations. Organizers therefore need to combine 00:08:58.549 --> 00:09:01.769 physical events with digital platforms to create 00:09:01.769 --> 00:09:04.230 more engagement experience for both exhibitions 00:09:04.230 --> 00:09:07.289 and visitors. That sounds like a very exciting 00:09:07.289 --> 00:09:10.269 and busy future for the industry. With so much 00:09:10.269 --> 00:09:13.169 on your plate between innovation and tradition, 00:09:13.490 --> 00:09:16.509 I have to ask about the human side. How do you 00:09:16.509 --> 00:09:18.830 balance your professional responsibilities with 00:09:18.830 --> 00:09:23.009 your personal life and family? Balancing work 00:09:23.009 --> 00:09:26.059 and family is always a learning process. For 00:09:26.059 --> 00:09:29.759 me, as a mother of two daughters, family is extremely 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:33.600 important to me. I try to prioritize my time 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.240 carefully and stay present in whatever role I 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:42.159 am in. Whether at work or with my family, having 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:46.860 a supportive family also helps a lot. They remind 00:09:46.860 --> 00:09:49.340 me that success is not only about professional 00:09:49.340 --> 00:09:52.139 achievement, but also about building a meaningful 00:09:52.139 --> 00:09:56.990 life. Wow, that sounds very meaningful. Well, 00:09:57.090 --> 00:09:59.909 since we already talked a bit about your experience 00:09:59.909 --> 00:10:02.990 leading UnionPan, let's shift gears now. We'd 00:10:02.990 --> 00:10:05.330 like to hear more about your experience with 00:10:05.330 --> 00:10:09.490 Operation Smile. So what does your involvement 00:10:09.490 --> 00:10:13.929 with Operation Smile look like? I have been involved 00:10:13.929 --> 00:10:16.470 with Operation Smile Thailand Foundation for 00:10:16.470 --> 00:10:24.200 more than 10 years as an ambassador. cleft lip 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:29.600 and cleft palate as well as post -operative care 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:34.860 such as speech therapy. My role mainly focusing 00:10:34.860 --> 00:10:40.039 on fundraising, also like raising awareness and 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:42.940 helping with fundraising effort so that more 00:10:42.940 --> 00:10:46.059 children can receive life -changing treatment. 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:49.899 That is such a life -changing work and it's incredible 00:10:49.899 --> 00:10:53.029 to see that level of dedication. It makes me 00:10:53.029 --> 00:10:56.210 wonder about your daily or weekly routine. Can 00:10:56.210 --> 00:10:58.570 you describe what it is like balancing your time 00:10:58.570 --> 00:11:01.909 between leading Union Pan and working with Operation 00:11:01.909 --> 00:11:07.129 Smile at the same time? For me, both roles are 00:11:07.129 --> 00:11:10.450 connected by a shared purpose, creating positive 00:11:10.450 --> 00:11:14.509 impact. My work in the exhibition industry helps 00:11:14.509 --> 00:11:17.960 supporting businesses and economic growth. why 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.740 my involvement with operations might allow me 00:11:20.740 --> 00:11:24.139 to contribute to society. Balancing two reminds 00:11:24.139 --> 00:11:28.379 me that success should also include giving back 00:11:28.379 --> 00:11:31.340 to the community. Wow, thank you so much for 00:11:31.340 --> 00:11:34.500 this. Let's move on to our final question. We 00:11:34.500 --> 00:11:37.659 like to end by asking our guests for advice. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.899 So what advice would you give to young people 00:11:40.899 --> 00:11:43.480 who want to start or grow their own business? 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:49.629 My advice would be, to stay curious and never 00:11:49.629 --> 00:11:53.230 stop learning. The business world is constantly 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:58.590 changing, so adaptability is very important for 00:11:58.590 --> 00:12:01.690 me and I think it's for you also. It's also important 00:12:01.690 --> 00:12:05.049 to build strong values and surround yourself 00:12:05.049 --> 00:12:09.190 with good people, mentor, partner and a positive 00:12:09.190 --> 00:12:14.490 team. And most importantly, be patient. Building 00:12:14.490 --> 00:12:17.539 something meaningful takes time. But with dedication 00:12:17.539 --> 00:12:23.059 and resilience, it is definitely possible. Wow, 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:25.440 thank you so much for that good advice. It's 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:28.039 for everybody, no matter their age or where they're 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.039 at in life. It's good to stay curious, never 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.379 stop learning, be adaptable, be patient, and 00:12:34.379 --> 00:12:37.500 building something meaningful takes time. It's 00:12:37.500 --> 00:12:39.440 been a privilege having you in the studio today, 00:12:39.580 --> 00:12:42.100 so thank you for showing us that high -level 00:12:42.100 --> 00:12:45.639 business and a big heart for humanity can and 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.700 should go hand in hand. Your work with both Union 00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:51.240 Pan and Operation Smile is a true inspiration. 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.200 We're going to take a quick break for our PSA 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.879 announcement, and then when we return, we'll 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.379 bring you part four of our serial story, The 00:12:59.379 --> 00:13:02.399 Mystery of St. Augustine. The plot is thickening, 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:11.259 so don't go away. We'll be right back. Did you 00:13:11.259 --> 00:13:13.480 know that every three minutes a child is born 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.879 with a cleft lip or a cleft palate? In Thailand 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:19.820 alone, around 2 ,000 babies are born with this 00:13:19.820 --> 00:13:22.720 condition every single year. For many of these 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.220 children, breathing, eating, and even speaking 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:29.200 can be a daily struggle. But there is hope. Operation 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.000 Smile Thailand provides safe, life -changing 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.700 surgeries and comprehensive care to underprivileged 00:13:35.700 --> 00:13:38.159 children across the country, completely free 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.659 of charge. In as little as 45 minutes, one surgery 00:13:41.659 --> 00:13:44.399 can transform a child's future and give them 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.639 a smile that can carry for a lifetime. You can 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:49.460 be part of this mission, whether it's through 00:13:49.460 --> 00:13:52.299 a donation, volunteering, or simply spreading 00:13:52.299 --> 00:13:55.120 the word. Your support helps bridge the gap to 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.000 essential health care. To learn more or to make 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.960 a contribution, visit operationsmile .or .th 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.500 or follow them on social media at Operations 00:14:05.500 --> 00:14:08.779 Smile Thailand. Give a smile, change a life. 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:12.200 Now let's get back to the show. And we are back. 00:14:12.259 --> 00:14:14.799 For this segment, we will bring you part four 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.320 of our 10 -part adventure story titled The Mystery 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:20.120 of St. Augustine. Before we jump into part four, 00:14:20.220 --> 00:14:36.669 here's a brief recap of part three. Following 00:14:36.669 --> 00:14:39.190 the shocking theft at the Historical Society, 00:14:39.549 --> 00:14:43.149 the El Dorado team decide to pursue a secret 00:14:43.149 --> 00:14:46.889 lead of their own. Professor Amanda Chase revealed 00:14:46.889 --> 00:14:50.350 her two -shipwreck theory, the possibility that 00:14:50.350 --> 00:14:54.110 Sir Francis Drake lost a second, undocumented 00:14:54.110 --> 00:14:58.610 ship carrying other materials and contents of 00:14:58.610 --> 00:15:02.720 great value. To test this theory, James Hawthorne 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.620 arranged a private charter with local captain 00:15:05.620 --> 00:15:09.059 Bobby Mitchell, intending to scout the coastline 00:15:09.059 --> 00:15:12.379 under the guise of a simple historical tour. 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:17.419 After finding an old buried box containing 24 00:15:17.419 --> 00:15:22.220 16th century gold coins, the criminal network 00:15:22.220 --> 00:15:26.730 known as The Table shifts its focus. Chairs 3, 00:15:27.009 --> 00:15:30.669 4, and 5 were dispatched to Jacksonville on a 00:15:30.669 --> 00:15:33.649 dual mission to shadow their surrogate employer, 00:15:34.009 --> 00:15:38.090 Eleanor Bennett, and to infiltrate a university 00:15:38.090 --> 00:15:41.450 research lab. Using forged credentials, they 00:15:41.450 --> 00:15:44.970 aim to authenticate the stolen documents to ensure 00:15:44.970 --> 00:15:49.210 the red list treasure is truly within their reach. 00:15:49.610 --> 00:15:53.080 As both groups move towards their targets, The 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.539 El Dorado team prepares to uncover a secret that's 00:15:56.539 --> 00:15:59.960 been guarded for centuries at the Cathedral Basilica. 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.759 And now, without further ado, here's part four, 00:16:04.940 --> 00:16:14.340 titled The Clues. The sun was bright, and the 00:16:14.340 --> 00:16:16.879 midday heat was starting to rise. Even though 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.100 summer had not yet arrived and the humidity was 00:16:19.100 --> 00:16:22.649 low. Midday in St. Augustine could get warm, 00:16:22.789 --> 00:16:25.250 especially when there was no clouds in the sky, 00:16:25.450 --> 00:16:28.690 and this was one of those days. Tom Reynolds, 00:16:28.970 --> 00:16:31.710 feeling a little warm under his collar, walked 00:16:31.710 --> 00:16:34.350 into the small St. Augustine police headquarters 00:16:34.350 --> 00:16:37.090 and was happy to be in the air conditioning. 00:16:37.789 --> 00:16:40.590 He approached the check -in counter and mentioned 00:16:40.590 --> 00:16:42.850 that he had an appointment to see Lieutenant 00:16:42.850 --> 00:16:46.809 Daniel Walsh. After filling out a visitor's log 00:16:46.809 --> 00:16:49.809 and signing his name, He sat down in one of the 00:16:49.809 --> 00:16:51.850 orange bucket seats in the small waiting area. 00:16:52.789 --> 00:16:54.929 These are the kind of seats that come in pairs 00:16:54.929 --> 00:16:58.090 and are connected to each other. Tom was thankful 00:16:58.090 --> 00:17:02.009 he was the only one there. Lieutenant Walsh opened 00:17:02.009 --> 00:17:04.990 a side door just next to the check -in counter, 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:08.890 smiled at Tom, and then said, Thanks for coming 00:17:08.890 --> 00:17:12.660 on such a short notice. Follow me. Lieutenant 00:17:12.660 --> 00:17:15.779 Walsh then motioned for Tom to follow him through 00:17:15.779 --> 00:17:19.619 the door and down a hallway. As the two made 00:17:19.619 --> 00:17:21.920 their way down a short hallway, Tom replied, 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:24.880 I'm excited to hear what you have found. That 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.720 was pretty quick. Lieutenant Walsh opened one 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.599 of the last doors in the hallway and motioned 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.140 for Tom to have a seat at one of the chairs at 00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:36.539 the table. Lieutenant Walsh with a straight face 00:17:36.539 --> 00:17:40.670 then said, Yeah, we have a few young, tech -savvy 00:17:40.670 --> 00:17:43.910 officers here that helped us with this lead we 00:17:43.910 --> 00:17:47.490 are about to show you. At the moment, Chief Sullivan 00:17:47.490 --> 00:17:50.150 stepped into the doorway from the hall and said, 00:17:50.289 --> 00:17:52.490 Hey Tom, I hope the lieutenant is helping you 00:17:52.490 --> 00:17:54.569 out. If you need anything else, please don't 00:17:54.569 --> 00:17:56.769 hesitate to ask. I heard about the break -in. 00:17:56.890 --> 00:17:59.650 Well, the so -called break -in. Sounds like a 00:17:59.650 --> 00:18:02.069 professional job. Our usual suspects don't fit 00:18:02.069 --> 00:18:04.490 the profile. Anyways, I think the lieutenant 00:18:04.490 --> 00:18:07.609 is onto something. He continues, Anyways, I'm 00:18:07.609 --> 00:18:10.089 off to the courthouse for the afternoon. Walsh 00:18:10.089 --> 00:18:12.329 will fill me in later. Okay, take care. End of 00:18:12.329 --> 00:18:15.410 that. Chief Sullivan left. Tom nodded his head, 00:18:15.509 --> 00:18:18.109 as if to say thank you to the chief, and then 00:18:18.109 --> 00:18:20.569 looked up at Lieutenant Walsh and asked, Okay, 00:18:20.690 --> 00:18:25.029 what do you have? Well, we have an old city ordinance 00:18:25.029 --> 00:18:28.450 in place that requires all commercial businesses 00:18:28.450 --> 00:18:33.089 to register the placement of CCTV cameras with 00:18:33.089 --> 00:18:36.170 the police department. Meaning, if a business 00:18:36.170 --> 00:18:39.269 is granted a business license within the city 00:18:39.269 --> 00:18:42.750 limits, and that business installs CCTV cameras 00:18:42.750 --> 00:18:45.569 on the exterior of their business or building, 00:18:45.730 --> 00:18:49.349 and if those cameras are pointing toward a public 00:18:49.349 --> 00:18:52.470 road or area, that business is required to inform 00:18:52.470 --> 00:18:56.069 the police department of that camera. Lt. Walsh 00:18:56.069 --> 00:18:59.309 paused for a moment and then asked, Are you following 00:18:59.309 --> 00:19:02.869 this, Tom? Yeah, okay, that makes sense, Tom 00:19:02.869 --> 00:19:05.069 replied. I think I know where you're going with 00:19:05.069 --> 00:19:09.109 this, so please go on. I had one of my deputies 00:19:09.109 --> 00:19:14.049 look into our CCTV registration records, and 00:19:14.049 --> 00:19:16.509 she found a registered camera belonging to the 00:19:16.509 --> 00:19:18.869 business that sits across the street from your 00:19:18.869 --> 00:19:23.089 building. It's an old thrift shop business, but 00:19:23.089 --> 00:19:26.549 they do have an old camera that points in the 00:19:26.549 --> 00:19:30.269 direction of the historical society. I know which 00:19:30.269 --> 00:19:32.519 place you're talking about. but I've never seen 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:35.880 any cameras on their storefront. In fact, I wasn't 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:37.900 even sure they were still in business, Song replied. 00:19:38.539 --> 00:19:42.440 Well, thank you to our young deputy. She was 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:46.079 able to find the owner, who, by the way, is as 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.099 old as our town, and the owner was able to provide 00:19:49.099 --> 00:19:52.039 her access to the camera's recordings from the 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:54.180 timeline you believe the documents were taken. 00:19:54.819 --> 00:19:58.410 Lieutenant Walsh continued, Anyway, I wanted 00:19:58.410 --> 00:20:00.890 to play you the video we found and see if you 00:20:00.890 --> 00:20:04.410 recognize the individual who was recorded. It's 00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:07.990 not great quality, but it's at least something. 00:20:08.309 --> 00:20:11.569 With his eyebrows raised in surprise, Tom replied, 00:20:11.930 --> 00:20:16.049 Wow, that was fast. Sure, let's have a look and 00:20:16.049 --> 00:20:19.390 make sure to thank your deputy for me. Tom watched 00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:22.369 as Lieutenant Walsh plugged a USB stick into 00:20:22.369 --> 00:20:24.829 a laptop that was already open and sitting on 00:20:24.829 --> 00:20:27.539 the table in front of them both. It took Lieutenant 00:20:27.539 --> 00:20:31.839 Walsh several clicks to find the file. Tom, along 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.039 with Lieutenant Walsh, watched the slightly blurry 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:39.039 video footage. The CCTV camera had recorded one 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:42.200 person coming into frame, then turning and entering 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:44.660 the alley behind the Historical Society's building. 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.160 The camera then captured that same person leaving 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.539 the alley and walking out of frame around 10 00:20:50.539 --> 00:20:53.710 minutes later. The images were not very clear 00:20:53.710 --> 00:20:56.329 since the camera was old and the lens was dirty. 00:20:56.950 --> 00:21:00.289 And this happened at night. Tom looked up at 00:21:00.289 --> 00:21:03.809 Lt. Walsh and then said, Well, that's something. 00:21:04.349 --> 00:21:07.450 That's more than what we had yesterday. I guess 00:21:07.450 --> 00:21:09.849 this video does confirm that we did have a break 00:21:09.849 --> 00:21:13.349 -in. I also don't recognize this person. It's 00:21:13.349 --> 00:21:15.670 too hard to see any type of detail besides the 00:21:15.670 --> 00:21:17.529 fact that they are wearing dark clothes and a 00:21:17.529 --> 00:21:20.309 hat to cover their hair and face. I thought you'd 00:21:20.309 --> 00:21:23.430 appreciate the video lead. We couldn't make out 00:21:23.430 --> 00:21:27.430 the identity of the person, but we thought we'd 00:21:27.430 --> 00:21:29.569 show it to you in case something stood out to 00:21:29.569 --> 00:21:33.829 you. Lieutenant Walsh responded. Can I see the 00:21:33.829 --> 00:21:37.609 video again in slow motion? Tom asked. Yeah, 00:21:37.630 --> 00:21:41.250 no problem, Lieutenant Walsh said, and then played 00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:45.569 the video a few more times in slow motion. Tom 00:21:45.569 --> 00:21:48.009 stood up halfway from his chair, pointing at 00:21:48.009 --> 00:21:51.099 the laptop screen. and then said, Pause it right 00:21:51.099 --> 00:21:54.579 there. Can you see that? Lieutenant Walsh squinted 00:21:54.579 --> 00:21:57.539 his eyes and then responded, Let me zoom in a 00:21:57.539 --> 00:22:00.880 bit. My eyes are getting bad with my age. If 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.400 you know what I mean. Keaton continued, Okay, 00:22:03.500 --> 00:22:07.539 I think I see what you are pointing at. It was 00:22:07.539 --> 00:22:10.859 a marking on the backside of the hat the individual 00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:14.440 was wearing. It was blurry, but the shape resembled 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.519 what looks like the letter J. I can't tell for 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.839 sure, but... Doesn't that look like the letter 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:23.880 J? Tom asked. It does, Lieutenant Walsh replied, 00:22:24.180 --> 00:22:28.500 and the hat looks to be a baseball cap, and it 00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:31.799 looks more like a dark blue than black. I'm not 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:35.099 a baseball fan, but what do you think, Tom? Do 00:22:35.099 --> 00:22:38.519 you recognize that? No, but I know someone who 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.960 will, he replied as he pulled out his phone and 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.309 video called Cece. Just as Cece was leaving her 00:22:44.309 --> 00:22:47.029 mother's house, her phone started vibrating in 00:22:47.029 --> 00:22:49.569 her back pocket. She stopped by her driver's 00:22:49.569 --> 00:22:52.089 side door, grabbed her phone and saw it was Tom, 00:22:52.150 --> 00:22:55.269 and clicked the green accept button. Hey boss, 00:22:55.490 --> 00:22:58.029 she answered. I was just about to head over to 00:22:58.029 --> 00:23:00.930 the old church to meet up with Mr. Hawthorne 00:23:00.930 --> 00:23:04.029 and his team. What's up? Hey there. Thanks for 00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:06.730 picking up so quickly. I'm still at the police 00:23:06.730 --> 00:23:08.930 station with Lieutenant Walsh, who may have a 00:23:08.930 --> 00:23:11.549 lead on our stolen archives. Tom then continued. 00:23:12.529 --> 00:23:14.809 I'm going to text you an image of what looks 00:23:14.809 --> 00:23:18.230 to be a baseball cap. There's a symbol or emblem 00:23:18.230 --> 00:23:21.069 on the back of the hat. It's quite small and 00:23:21.069 --> 00:23:23.789 a bit blurry. We think it looks like the letter 00:23:23.789 --> 00:23:28.009 J, but not sure. Anyways, I thought since you've 00:23:28.009 --> 00:23:29.569 been around baseball so much because of your 00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:31.750 brothers and somewhat professionally around here, 00:23:31.869 --> 00:23:34.650 you might recognize it. If you could take a quick 00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:36.609 look and then text me back, that'd be great. 00:23:37.069 --> 00:23:41.140 Thanks. And with that, Tom ended the call. Cece, 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.799 knowing that Tom was focused on this one thing, 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.799 didn't mind at all that he cut the call short 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.799 without asking her anything else. She knew Tom 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.339 could be like this, especially when he was stressed 00:23:52.339 --> 00:23:56.579 or focused. He was short and to the point. She 00:23:56.579 --> 00:23:59.180 opened the car door and then got in and sat there 00:23:59.180 --> 00:24:02.819 for a moment, waiting for Tom's text. Bing, there 00:24:02.819 --> 00:24:05.559 it was. She looked at the image Tom had sent, 00:24:05.740 --> 00:24:08.339 ran the image through one of her favorite camera 00:24:08.339 --> 00:24:11.039 filter apps, and enhanced the back of the hat 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.839 to clear it up. She knew right away. This was 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.519 the logo of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp Minor 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:20.799 League Baseball team. Tom was right. The emblem 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:24.619 did resemble the letter J. The image was blurry, 00:24:24.819 --> 00:24:27.640 but she was sure of it. She found a clean version 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.480 of the logo online, took a screenshot of it, 00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:33.640 and sent a text right back to Tom with her reply. 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.839 It read, I'm pretty sure the emblem on the back 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.779 of the baseball cap is of the Jacksonville Jumbo 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:44.119 Shrimp Minor League Baseball team. Here's a screenshot 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:47.539 of the real logo I found online. If you put the 00:24:47.539 --> 00:24:50.799 two side by side, it's almost a perfect match. 00:24:51.859 --> 00:24:54.519 Tom's phone dinged as Cece's incoming message 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:58.319 appeared. Bingo. Tom said out loud as he held 00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:01.769 his phone up toward Lieutenant Walsh. Well, Lieutenant, 00:25:02.049 --> 00:25:05.230 I think that emblem on the back of the hat our 00:25:05.230 --> 00:25:07.130 thief is wearing belongs to the minor league 00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:09.789 baseball team, the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp. 00:25:10.750 --> 00:25:13.190 Lieutenant Walsh removed his glasses from his 00:25:13.190 --> 00:25:15.490 front shirt pocket and then put them on as he 00:25:15.490 --> 00:25:18.190 leaned over the table and squinted to see the 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:20.950 small images on Tom's phone. He then stepped 00:25:20.950 --> 00:25:24.190 back and replied, I think you're right. That's 00:25:24.190 --> 00:25:26.769 good detective work, Tom. He then continued. 00:25:27.450 --> 00:25:30.970 We have a good lead on at least one article of 00:25:30.970 --> 00:25:33.930 clothing the thief was wearing, and it's very 00:25:33.930 --> 00:25:36.849 specific. I'll do some more digging with this 00:25:36.849 --> 00:25:39.049 new information, and if we find out anything 00:25:39.049 --> 00:25:42.069 else, I'll be in touch. Tom stood up from the 00:25:42.069 --> 00:25:44.490 table, had a small smile on his face, and then 00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:47.990 replied, This detective work is exciting. I understand 00:25:47.990 --> 00:25:51.150 why you like it, Lieutenant. However, I've got 00:25:51.150 --> 00:25:52.990 to get back to the office and start coordinating 00:25:52.990 --> 00:25:55.049 schedules with the team here from California. 00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:57.859 They're out this afternoon doing some research 00:25:57.859 --> 00:26:01.140 with Cece. Thanks again, Lieutenant. And with 00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:03.420 that, Tom left the police station and headed 00:26:03.420 --> 00:26:05.460 back to his office at the Historical Society. 00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:14.220 Hawthorne parked on the street opposite the Basilica. 00:26:14.259 --> 00:26:16.740 He knew that Cece would be meeting them there 00:26:16.740 --> 00:26:20.200 shortly. As the Eldorado team got out of the... 00:26:20.490 --> 00:26:23.630 Rental walked across the street and stood next 00:26:23.630 --> 00:26:26.650 to the large front entrance doors. Hawthorne 00:26:26.650 --> 00:26:29.869 turned to Professor Amanda and asked, While we 00:26:29.869 --> 00:26:32.190 wait for Cece, what should we know about this 00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:35.569 place before we go inside? Amanda looked over 00:26:35.569 --> 00:26:37.730 at Professor Hawthorne and then replied with 00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:40.509 a smile, Well, I'm glad you asked. I'll give 00:26:40.509 --> 00:26:43.549 you the quick version before we go inside. Amanda 00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:46.490 paused a moment to make sure Anne and Olivia 00:26:46.490 --> 00:26:49.690 were listening and then continued. Well, what 00:26:49.690 --> 00:26:52.369 we are standing in front of is not the actual 00:26:52.369 --> 00:26:55.470 first church building. The original church was 00:26:55.470 --> 00:26:57.970 much smaller and didn't survive the attack by 00:26:57.970 --> 00:27:00.950 Drake's men. Since the old Drake days, there 00:27:00.950 --> 00:27:03.130 have been different church buildings constructed 00:27:03.130 --> 00:27:06.650 and torn down on this location. The basilica 00:27:06.650 --> 00:27:09.609 here, the one we are looking at, was built in 00:27:09.609 --> 00:27:13.829 the 1790s. Since then, it's been officially recognized 00:27:13.829 --> 00:27:16.720 for a lot of things. Cece would be able to give 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.720 those details. She continued, anyway, maybe it 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.740 holds some secrets we don't know about. At that 00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:25.640 moment, they all saw Cece on the sidewalk walking 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.059 toward them. Hawthorne grinned, then said, hello, 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.519 and then said, all right, we're glad we get a 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.000 tour guide and are excited to see the inside 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.400 of this place. Cece grinned and said hello as 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:40.880 she walked past them all and knocked heavily 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.329 on the front large wooden doors. She then turned 00:27:44.329 --> 00:27:47.289 around and said, Actually, John Tanner, a friend 00:27:47.289 --> 00:27:50.369 of the historical society and caretaker of this 00:27:50.369 --> 00:27:53.589 old relic, is going to be our tour guide. He 00:27:53.589 --> 00:27:56.190 knows this place like the back of his hand, and 00:27:56.190 --> 00:27:59.369 he knows all the history, even more so than I 00:27:59.369 --> 00:28:02.569 do. It's closed right now to the tourists, but 00:28:02.569 --> 00:28:05.750 he'll let us in to see the place. One of the 00:28:05.750 --> 00:28:08.950 front large wooden doors slowly opened with several 00:28:08.950 --> 00:28:12.289 skiffing noises. And John poked his head out 00:28:12.289 --> 00:28:15.190 to see who was banging on the front of the church's 00:28:15.190 --> 00:28:19.890 door so loudly. After recognizing Cece, he opened 00:28:19.890 --> 00:28:23.650 the door wider and then said, Oh, it's you, as 00:28:23.650 --> 00:28:26.970 he nodded his head towards Cece. He then asked, 00:28:27.230 --> 00:28:31.589 Who's with you? Cece introduced the El Dorado 00:28:31.589 --> 00:28:34.970 College team, Professor Hawthorne and Professor 00:28:34.970 --> 00:28:38.509 Amanda and Olivia. After the brief introductions, 00:28:39.029 --> 00:28:42.009 Sisi then asked John, I know it's short notice 00:28:42.009 --> 00:28:44.490 and visiting hours for this time of year are 00:28:44.490 --> 00:28:47.289 different, but would you mind giving us a quick 00:28:47.289 --> 00:28:50.430 tour of the church? I'd love for my colleagues 00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:52.829 to see the church and maybe get some of their 00:28:52.829 --> 00:28:56.630 questions answered. John's face lit up, and then 00:28:56.630 --> 00:29:00.349 he replied, Yeah, no problem, Sisi. Any friend 00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.609 of the historical society is a friend of mine. 00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:06.539 And I haven't seen you here in a while. Anyway, 00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:10.819 come on in. John pushed on the large wooden doors 00:29:10.819 --> 00:29:14.660 open further and motioned for them all to enter 00:29:14.660 --> 00:29:17.599 the church. As the team was funneling through 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.480 the half -open front door, John continued, Not 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.880 sure how much you know about this place, but 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.559 here's a quick history lesson. Amanda, now standing 00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.440 inside the back of the church with the others 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.559 visibly excited, stared down the central aisle 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.319 of the main seating area. interrupted John and 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:38.079 said, Okay, great. We'd love to hear the history 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.380 of this place, especially the parts that haven't 00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:43.460 been published for the public. John, surprised 00:29:43.460 --> 00:29:47.420 by Amanda's excitement, then said, Okay, then 00:29:47.420 --> 00:29:50.500 this will be fun. John stood in front of the 00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:53.240 group with his back toward the front and started 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.240 walking backward. He motioned the group to follow 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.059 him up the main central aisle inside the nave. 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.240 as he would give some history about the famous 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.539 church. John continued with his history lesson. 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.460 The official name of this National Historic Landmark 00:30:10.460 --> 00:30:14.859 is the Cathedral Basilica of St. Augustine, and 00:30:14.859 --> 00:30:17.240 it is the oldest Catholic church in the city 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.819 and the oldest parish in the United States. It's 00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:24.539 still active today with regular services and 00:30:24.539 --> 00:30:28.000 other activities, and it's free to the public, 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.740 I might add. John went on for about 10 more minutes 00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:35.160 about many of the features inside the main nave 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.579 area. The stained glass, the different statues, 00:30:38.859 --> 00:30:42.460 and other symbolic relics and objects during 00:30:42.460 --> 00:30:46.279 the services. As he stopped at the front by the 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.740 main altar and statues, John continued with a 00:30:49.740 --> 00:30:52.660 few more facts. Although the original parish 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:56.950 here in St. Augustine began in the 1500s, The 00:30:56.950 --> 00:31:01.150 permanent cathedral wasn't built until 1790s. 00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:04.589 Several walls in the current structure we are 00:31:04.589 --> 00:31:07.609 standing in right now are from the original built 00:31:07.609 --> 00:31:11.789 back in the 1790s. Unfortunately, there was a 00:31:11.789 --> 00:31:15.470 fire in 1887 that destroyed many of the interior 00:31:15.470 --> 00:31:19.569 items at that time. However, a fellow by the 00:31:19.569 --> 00:31:23.549 name of Henry Flagler helped fund the restoration. 00:31:24.230 --> 00:31:27.900 So, The current cathedral building we are standing 00:31:27.900 --> 00:31:32.079 in is a combination of the original 1797 structure 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.240 and the restored interior after the 1887 fire. 00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:39.380 As John continued to talk about the basilica, 00:31:39.420 --> 00:31:42.319 pointing out other small details, Anne nudged 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.220 James' arm and then whispered, Look at the base 00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:47.339 of the middle wooden carving of Jesus behind 00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.960 the altar. It's a little hard to see because 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.759 of the greenery they placed on the ledge. But 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.940 what do you see? Hawthorne squinted his eyes 00:31:55.940 --> 00:31:58.700 and trained them on the base of the middle carved 00:31:58.700 --> 00:32:01.960 wooden statue of Jesus, which was elevated above 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.240 and behind the main altar. Hawthorne could tell 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.599 that there was a marking at the base of the carving, 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.720 right below the feet of Jesus. As he studied 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.140 it for a few seconds, it finally dawned on him 00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:16.160 what Anne had noticed. There was a marking in 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.759 the wood that resembled a thin arrow that pointed 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.549 down. Anne, getting a little impatient, nudged 00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:26.049 James' arm again and asked, Do you see it? Yeah, 00:32:26.069 --> 00:32:28.390 I think so, he then replied with a louder whisper, 00:32:28.549 --> 00:32:30.789 as he talked about the marking that looks like 00:32:30.789 --> 00:32:34.750 an arrow pointing down. Yep, she then asked, 00:32:34.910 --> 00:32:39.009 What do you think that means? Well, let's ask 00:32:39.009 --> 00:32:42.329 John. I'm sure he'd be glad to tell us. At this 00:32:42.329 --> 00:32:44.769 time, John had stopped talking about the history 00:32:44.769 --> 00:32:47.730 and had suggested the group could just roam around 00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:50.740 the main nave area. take photos, or simply rest 00:32:50.740 --> 00:32:53.859 and pray if they felt like it. Hawthorne had 00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:57.539 to admit the place was peaceful and quiet. James 00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:00.119 noticed that Amanda was walking around with Olivia 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.220 and Cece, talking softly and looking at the different 00:33:03.220 --> 00:33:06.539 elements sitting around the interior. James walked 00:33:06.539 --> 00:33:09.000 over to John and then said, Excuse me, do you 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.299 mind if I ask you a question about one of the 00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:14.200 wooden carvings behind the altar? No, not at 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:18.809 all, John replied. Hawthorne then said, Ann noticed 00:33:18.809 --> 00:33:21.369 and then pointed out to me that there's a small 00:33:21.369 --> 00:33:24.710 carving of a directional arrow on the base of 00:33:24.710 --> 00:33:27.329 the middle statue, right below the feet of Jesus. 00:33:27.670 --> 00:33:30.769 The arrow is pointing down. What does that symbolize? 00:33:31.069 --> 00:33:33.829 I've done a lot of field work in Central and 00:33:33.829 --> 00:33:36.369 South America, and I've never seen a symbol like 00:33:36.369 --> 00:33:39.809 this before in an old Catholic church. By this 00:33:39.809 --> 00:33:42.009 time, Amanda, Olivia, and Cece had made their 00:33:42.009 --> 00:33:44.630 way back to where John and Ann, the professor, 00:33:44.809 --> 00:33:47.000 were standing. right in front of the altar and 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.440 staring at the base of the statue. Okay, I'll 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.599 tell you. This isn't public knowledge. Well, 00:33:53.819 --> 00:33:57.640 as at least part of it isn't. And since you are 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.000 all here with Sissy and represents the St. Augustine 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.559 Historical Society, I can let you in on a few 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.839 inside secrets the caretakers, like me and others 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.460 before me, have committed to preserve and protect. 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:16.219 John then continues. Yes. The etching is of an 00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:19.199 arrow pointing down. The arrow is pointing down 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:23.420 at two things. The altar and the Coquina vault 00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:27.159 beneath the floor. John hesitates for a minute 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.460 and then says, Tom at the Historical Society 00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:33.420 already knows a little about this. But there 00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:36.059 are a few other fun and interesting things he 00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:38.880 doesn't know about. And I'd be happy to show 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.760 you if you're still interested. Maybe this will 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.000 motivate Tom to get back over here and visit 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.840 again. Amanda, visually excited, then jumps in 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.280 and says, Yes, please. We'd love to see more. 00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:54.119 This is why we're here. Please go on. Okay, John 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.739 replies, and then continues. After the fire of 00:34:57.739 --> 00:35:01.659 1887 and the renovations were complete, Henry 00:35:01.659 --> 00:35:04.800 Flagler, who funded the restoration and renovation 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.159 of the church, didn't want the caretakers to 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.900 forget about these two things. First, the altar 00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:12.980 contains several sacred relics that were saved 00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:16.480 from the fire. Supposedly, the relics in the 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.699 altar are linked to three saints and a Franciscan 00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:24.280 friar. I'm not sure what the relics are exactly 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.679 because the altar is permanently sealed. And 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.119 the second thing, Amanda pressed. Yes, John hesitates 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.059 for a moment and then says, And the second thing 00:35:35.059 --> 00:35:38.309 is something I can show you. Follow me. John 00:35:38.309 --> 00:35:40.610 motioned for them to follow him as he stepped 00:35:40.610 --> 00:35:44.309 up on the elevated platform and walked behind 00:35:44.309 --> 00:35:47.769 the central altar. There was a small gap about 00:35:47.769 --> 00:35:50.210 four feet between the back of the large altar 00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:53.590 and the back of the church wall. The statue carving 00:35:53.590 --> 00:35:57.510 of Jesus was positioned and fastened to the wall, 00:35:57.690 --> 00:36:00.789 elevated about five feet off the floor level 00:36:00.789 --> 00:36:04.190 of the platform. Okay, this is interesting, Professor 00:36:04.190 --> 00:36:06.489 Hawthorne said out loud as the group followed 00:36:06.489 --> 00:36:09.050 John Tanner onto the platform and then walked 00:36:09.050 --> 00:36:11.889 around the large altar. The group was fixated 00:36:11.889 --> 00:36:14.889 on what John was now pointing down at. The group 00:36:14.889 --> 00:36:17.250 watched as John rolled up a rug which revealed 00:36:17.250 --> 00:36:20.269 a small door in the hardwood floor with a small 00:36:20.269 --> 00:36:24.389 lock and latch. As John retrieved an old key 00:36:24.389 --> 00:36:26.929 from his inside chest pocket and unlocked the 00:36:26.929 --> 00:36:30.829 small lock, he said, We don't show this to tourists. 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.360 Obviously, but this small space in the ground 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.519 is from the original church building. It wasn't 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.059 destroyed in the fire because it is partially 00:36:40.059 --> 00:36:43.539 located under the floor of the church. Anyway, 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.780 this room is empty, as it sometimes fills up 00:36:46.780 --> 00:36:49.099 with several inches of water during a heavy storm. 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.460 But there are several carvings in the coquina 00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:56.920 walls that you might enjoy looking at. They date 00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.760 back to the 16th century. John finished saying 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.659 that as he lifted the heavy wooden door, rested 00:37:03.659 --> 00:37:07.500 it on the back wall, pulled a small flashlight 00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:10.019 out of his pocket, and then looked at the ground 00:37:10.019 --> 00:37:13.440 with a smile and added, I hope you're not claustrophobic. 00:37:13.659 --> 00:37:17.019 Follow me. He then proceeded to descend into 00:37:17.019 --> 00:37:20.659 the dimly lit Coquina vault. Amanda watched as 00:37:20.659 --> 00:37:23.099 John ducked his head and then climbed down the 00:37:23.099 --> 00:37:26.000 old wooden steep staircase into the space below. 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.480 Amanda followed John, careful not to misstep. 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.739 Once down on the damp stone floor, she was happy 00:37:32.739 --> 00:37:35.860 she could stand completely upright, unlike John, 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.199 who was taller and had to bend his head down 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.940 a bit. Amanda guessed there was only about 6 00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:45.159 foot head clearance, and the space looked to 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:48.440 be a square room, maybe around 12 feet by 12 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:52.829 feet. Hawthorne waited as all the others descended, 00:37:52.909 --> 00:37:55.610 then he was the last to go down into the vault. 00:37:55.690 --> 00:37:58.309 As he reached the bottom of the last step and 00:37:58.309 --> 00:38:00.789 then the floor, he felt the top of his head touching 00:38:00.789 --> 00:38:03.349 the ceiling of the short room. All right, he 00:38:03.349 --> 00:38:06.070 thought to himself, this is pretty cool. The 00:38:06.070 --> 00:38:08.989 room was small, smelled very damp, and with all 00:38:08.989 --> 00:38:12.050 six of them crammed inside, it did feel quite 00:38:12.050 --> 00:38:15.440 small and cramped. He noticed that John, who 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.659 was closest to the backside wall, was pointing 00:38:17.659 --> 00:38:21.159 his flashlight at several what looked like carvings 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.980 in the old Kachina wall. The others had gathered 00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:26.820 around him, staring at the wall. Olivia pulled 00:38:26.820 --> 00:38:29.480 out her camera and then warned everyone that 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.719 her flash was going to go off before taking several 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.019 photos of the wall. Hawthorne then asked, What 00:38:35.019 --> 00:38:37.340 are we looking at, John? He could tell Amanda 00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:40.599 could barely hold her excitement in as she turned 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.719 to look at Hawthorne as he asked that question. 00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:46.510 John replied to Professor Hawthorne's question 00:38:46.510 --> 00:38:49.349 and said, What we're looking at are carvings 00:38:49.349 --> 00:38:52.090 from the original 16th century church buildings. 00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:55.409 Back then, it was thought that this room was 00:38:55.409 --> 00:38:58.489 above ground and a sacred chamber that held Catholic 00:38:58.489 --> 00:39:01.809 relics. Obviously, it can't be used all that 00:39:01.809 --> 00:39:04.849 today. But the carvings here in the Kokina Wall 00:39:04.849 --> 00:39:08.230 have survived many hundreds of years. So John, 00:39:08.349 --> 00:39:10.789 Amanda then asked, are these carvings thought 00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:14.440 to tell some sort of story? Yes, John replied. 00:39:14.860 --> 00:39:17.320 That's pretty much how they documented some of 00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.840 the more important events back then. If the priests 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.659 wanted something to be remembered, they would 00:39:23.659 --> 00:39:26.800 inscribe it on the walls. It's a simple way to 00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:30.019 pass down a story to the next generation. He 00:39:30.019 --> 00:39:33.039 then continued. Feel free to take photos of the 00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.440 etchings, but out of respect for the Catholic 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.900 parish, please don't publish them. Hawthorne, 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:42.039 looking at the half dozen or so carvings and 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.579 etchings in the wall, knew that Amanda had noticed 00:39:44.579 --> 00:39:47.760 the same thing he had. One in particular etching 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.079 stood out to him, and Professor Hawthorne knew 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.380 exactly what it meant, or so he thought. However, 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.820 he knew John did not, and he assumed Cece didn't 00:39:56.820 --> 00:39:59.579 either. Only he and Amanda had been privy to 00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:02.739 the exact wording in the records Amanda had found 00:40:02.739 --> 00:40:05.239 in the old journal logbook back in the library 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.820 at the college, and this etching is connected 00:40:07.820 --> 00:40:11.309 to it. He looked over at Amanda, raised his eyebrows, 00:40:11.469 --> 00:40:14.550 and then said out loud, This is really something, 00:40:14.710 --> 00:40:19.329 John. Do you know what these mean? Not really, 00:40:19.469 --> 00:40:21.869 except that some of the etchings seem to highlight 00:40:21.869 --> 00:40:25.969 significant events back in the early days. Maybe 00:40:25.969 --> 00:40:29.210 something the priests were a part of or the town 00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:32.409 was a part of back then. I mean, there are no 00:40:32.409 --> 00:40:35.110 other records really that connect to the church 00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:37.670 other than this small original space and the 00:40:37.670 --> 00:40:41.349 etchings. Amanda, not wanting to seem too excited, 00:40:41.590 --> 00:40:43.710 then said, I'm just going to grab a few extra 00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:46.110 photos with my phone camera. Don't worry, we 00:40:46.110 --> 00:40:49.349 won't publish these anywhere. After that, John 00:40:49.349 --> 00:40:51.750 then led the group back up into the church, closed 00:40:51.750 --> 00:40:54.010 the heavy wooden door, locked it, and rolled 00:40:54.010 --> 00:40:57.030 the rug back over the door. As the group walked 00:40:57.030 --> 00:41:00.269 down the main nave aisle again towards the main 00:41:00.269 --> 00:41:03.349 doors, John then asked, Is there anything else 00:41:03.349 --> 00:41:06.480 you want to see while you're here? Amanda replied, 00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:09.260 I think we are good. Thank you for hosting us. 00:41:09.420 --> 00:41:11.980 We really appreciate it. I'm not sure I've met 00:41:11.980 --> 00:41:14.619 a more knowledgeable parish caretaker. This place 00:41:14.619 --> 00:41:18.039 is in good hands with you here. As the group 00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.159 made their way outside, they were all met with 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.380 the bright late afternoon Florida sun. Squinting 00:41:23.380 --> 00:41:25.739 his eyes, Hawthorne looked over at Cece and asked, 00:41:26.179 --> 00:41:28.940 Hey Cece, we booked a boat ride tomorrow morning 00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:31.739 with First Coast Charters. Maybe you and Tom 00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:34.579 could join us. What do you think? Actually, that 00:41:34.579 --> 00:41:36.940 sounds like a good idea. I can check in with 00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:39.159 Tom back at the office and then let you know, 00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:43.460 Cece replied. Okay, great. I'll send the details 00:41:43.460 --> 00:41:45.739 and we can just meet down at the harbor in the 00:41:45.739 --> 00:41:48.400 morning. We wanted to get out on the water for 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.219 a few hours to get a sense of the landscape and 00:41:51.219 --> 00:41:53.920 what it might have been like for Drake and his 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.900 ships to see the land from the water. Makes sense, 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.239 Cece replied. I know Tom was at the police station 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.300 most of this afternoon, and I'm sure he'll enjoy 00:42:04.300 --> 00:42:07.559 a field trip tomorrow with you all. Bobby at 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.539 First Coast Charters is great and super knowledgeable. 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:13.880 That's good to know. We're going to head back 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.719 to our hotel and call it a day. We'll agree to 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.119 meet up tomorrow morning at First Coast's office 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.639 down at the harbor. Oh, by the way, do you need 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.940 a ride back to the office from here? Hawthorne 00:42:24.940 --> 00:42:27.309 asked. No thanks, I parked around the corner, 00:42:27.610 --> 00:42:36.329 Cece answered. See you tomorrow then. Midnight 00:42:36.329 --> 00:42:38.309 looked at the small clock hanging on the living 00:42:38.309 --> 00:42:40.309 room wall of the condo and noticed it was just 00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:43.210 past 4pm. Hey, which one of you is going to go 00:42:43.210 --> 00:42:45.429 to the post office to pick up the package? I 00:42:45.429 --> 00:42:48.889 can go, Chair 3 answered. What PO box am I accessing 00:42:48.889 --> 00:42:51.469 again? 32, Midnight said with an annoyed look 00:42:51.469 --> 00:42:54.090 on her face. Just get in, get the package, and 00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:56.250 get out. Don't talk to anyone and mind your own 00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:59.250 business. Yeah, I know the routine. Chair 3 snatched 00:42:59.250 --> 00:43:01.210 back as he got up and walked toward the door 00:43:01.210 --> 00:43:03.610 to leave the condo. Chair 6 then blurted out, 00:43:03.829 --> 00:43:06.150 Wait, you need to conceal your face without looking 00:43:06.150 --> 00:43:09.230 too obvious. I'm sure there are cameras in the 00:43:09.230 --> 00:43:12.090 post office. Here. Chair 6 grabbed the dark blue 00:43:12.090 --> 00:43:14.590 baseball hat that was sitting on the table and 00:43:14.590 --> 00:43:17.449 tossed it at Chair 3 and then said, Make sure 00:43:17.449 --> 00:43:19.989 you wear this. Chair 3 caught the hat, looked 00:43:19.989 --> 00:43:22.530 at it, and then asked, Interesting hat of choice. 00:43:22.969 --> 00:43:25.590 The jumbo shrimp? Really? Chair 6 responded, 00:43:25.969 --> 00:43:28.250 Never mind the logo. Just make sure you come 00:43:28.250 --> 00:43:30.150 back with the package or you guys won't be able 00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:32.730 to get into the university's lab tomorrow. She 00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:35.289 continued, And for the record, that's the only 00:43:35.289 --> 00:43:38.190 dark colored hat I could find on such short notice 00:43:38.190 --> 00:43:40.550 before I hit up the historical society the other 00:43:40.550 --> 00:43:42.909 night. Chair 3 tucked the hat under his left 00:43:42.909 --> 00:43:45.469 arm, opened the door, glanced back at the others, 00:43:45.610 --> 00:43:49.079 and then said, Hey 4 and 5, you owe me. and with 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.739 that he shut the condo door behind him and walked 00:43:51.739 --> 00:44:21.010 down the hallway toward the elevator And that's 00:44:21.010 --> 00:44:23.329 a wrap for this episode. A big thanks to our 00:44:23.329 --> 00:44:26.989 guests, Ms. Jing of Union Pan and Operation Smile 00:44:26.989 --> 00:44:30.130 Thailand on segment one for showing us how to 00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:33.070 lead with both business smarts and a big heart. 00:44:33.489 --> 00:44:35.989 We've covered everything from international exhibitions 00:44:35.989 --> 00:44:39.329 to the latest twist in the mystery of St. Augustine. 00:44:39.429 --> 00:44:41.809 If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe and 00:44:41.809 --> 00:44:44.650 leave us a review. 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