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Welcome to Students Incorporated. I'm your host,

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Mr. Jason. Join me weekly as my students and

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I bring you content that's informative, positive,

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fun, and uplifting. This podcast is created and

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produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok. We often hear that

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the restaurant business is one of the toughest

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industries in the world. So how do you go from

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opening a single ramen shop in Bangkok a highly

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competitive market, to building one of Thailand's

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fastest -growing dining empires. Today, we are

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stepping inside the mind of Mr. Min, the visionary

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founder of the Yuzu Group, which includes at

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least 10 food brands such as Yuzu Ramen, Thai

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Thai Boat Noodles, and Yuzu Suki, among others.

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We're going to find out how he turned a passion

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for flavor into a powerhouse business using curiosity,

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creativity, and a bold growth mindset. Whether

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you're a foodie or a future CEO, this is a story

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about refining the experience. But before we

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talk with our guests, let's hear our quote of

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the day and get some headline news. Our quote

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of the day comes from Mark Zuckerberg. He said,

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the biggest risk is not taking any risk. In a

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world that is changing really quickly, the only

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strategy that is guaranteed to fail is not taking

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risks. I love this because it perfectly captures

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the entrepreneurial spirit. You can't build something

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revolutionary like the Yuzu Group without being

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willing to step outside your comfort zone. Mr.

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Min started with a single ramen shop and has

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now built a multi -brand powerhouse. That doesn't

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happen by playing it safe. It's a great reminder

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for us and for Mr. Min. Innovation requires that

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bold leap. If he hadn't taken the risk to try

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new flavors, new concepts, or scale the business,

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we wouldn't be having this conversation today.

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It sets a brilliant tone for our chat about a

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zest for success. And that's our quote of the

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day. Now on to some headline news. Thank you

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for the quote of the day. Now let's look what's

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happening in the food world with our headline

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news. Our first story comes from the National

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Restaurant Association's forecast. The headline

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is, Southeast Asian cuisine takes the global

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top spot. According to the report, global demand

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for Thai, Vietnamese, and Filipino flavors has

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hit an all -time high. But here's the interesting

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part. Diners are no longer looking for generic

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Asian fusion. They want hyper -regional authenticity.

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Specific dishes with specific provinces. This

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shift towards authentic storytelling in food

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is exactly what brands like Yuzu Group have been

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doing and capitalizing on, proving that local

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culture is a global asset. Next, we move to technology

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with a story from Tableo regarding a future of

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service. The headline reads, Restaurants Turn

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to AI Agents to Fix Labor Crunch. We aren't just

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talking about chatbots anymore. This past year,

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restaurants have been adopting AI agents that

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can automatically manage inventory, schedule

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staff, and even negotiate supply orders. While

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this helps solve the chronic labor shortage,

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industry experts warn that the challenge for

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the next decade will be balancing this cold efficiency

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with the warm human touch of hospitality. And

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finally, a major shift in the battle of brands

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from courts. McDonald's dethrones Starbucks as

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world's most valuable restaurant brand. After

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a decade of dominance, Starbucks has slipped

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to second place following a year of customer

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dissatisfaction and price hikes. Meanwhile, McDonald's

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has reclaimed the crown by focusing intensely

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on value and simplified menus. There's a massive

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reminder for all entrepreneurs that no matter

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how big you get, if you lose connection with

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your core customer, you can lose your lead. From

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the rise of Thai flavors to the AI revolution

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and the battle of giants, the food industry is

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moving faster than ever. Thank you, Josiah. That

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last story about Starbucks and McDonald's really

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highlights how competitive this industry really

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is. It's not just about cooking good food. It's

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about building a brand that can survive and scale.

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And that is the perfect transition to our main

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guest today. He started with a single shop and

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has successfully scaled it into a multi -brand

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portfolio that captures exactly that authentic

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energy we just heard about. So Proud, go ahead

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and get us started. Welcome to the show, Mr.

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Min. Could you please introduce yourself and

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tell us a little bit about what you do? Okay,

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so my name is Min. I'm a CEO and founder of Yusup

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Group. I started Yusup Group since 2018. First

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shop is Yusup Ramen, and then following... Following

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months, I opened Yuzu Omakase. And after that,

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eight years. Since then, now, I'm here. I would

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say I'm a big fan of Yuzu Suki. Like, it's my

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comfort restaurant. So what inspired you to start

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Yuzu Group in the first place? So it's more like,

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it's not a group at first. It's more like a brand

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that I wanted to do. I came across this space

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in Siam Square eight years ago. In Siam Square,

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I saw it three. And then I just finished grad

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school from Columbia. um coming back deciding

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what to do and then i found my passion in food

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i always like go try new things even though it's

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like street food fine dining everywhere um all

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around the world and then i came across this

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very good opportunity the space in siam so a

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very nice very prime location and then i thought

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to myself like what should i do like what do

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i like to eat and what's my strength what's what's

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my passion and then uh i i came across this ramen

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infused with yuzu from tokyo from all over the

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world and there are a few places that serve yuzu

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infused ramen and then i thought okay if i do

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it in thailand then i would be the first and

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then nobody would do it and nobody would back

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then nobody would really know like what yuzu

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is so i feel like it's a good shot and then i'll

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be the first in thailand then there i hired like

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a group of japanese on rd team and then along

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with me we developed this um yuzu infused ramen

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for like over a year and then we launched the

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first one in Going back to grad school, what's

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one lesson from your student years that you still

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use today? I think it comes from one of my professors.

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His name is Mark. He said that all his success

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right now is contributed to just one thing that

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he did. All he did is ask. So he taught me the

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things that I didn't know or I would love to

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know that the only action I have to do in life

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in order to succeed or achieve what I want is

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ask. I asked a lot of people about a lot of stuff

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in every context, everywhere, right? Let's say

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today, like, what are we doing? What should I

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do? How should I solve this? How should I tackle

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this? So I think everything that has made me

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who I am and my team today is I asked my way

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through. Because sometimes people overlook asking

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questions as like important factors. So the biggest

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challenge you faced early on and like, how do

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you overcome it? So then again, back to the asking.

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I feel like the asking part is somewhat very

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simple, but I think people underestimate the

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power of asking. I feel like because the things

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you said, that the obstacles I face, right? All

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I did is ask, ask the right people, ask the right

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team, ask everyone, right? So every time I found

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myself struggle in certain context, certain problem,

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then I would ask. my team i would ask my seniors

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i would ask my mentor i would ask the people

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who has expertise in that field and then solve

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it so back back back at it again so it's asking

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it's the asking part would you say the asking

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part plays into staying creative while keeping

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the business running efficiently for sure because

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i think asking is not just asking for advice

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right it's more like exchanging ideas also like

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some some people when we were in a conversation

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then They're afraid to talk. They're afraid to

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express themselves and all that. And then we

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would have to ask them, what do you think? How

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about this? If it goes this way, then how do

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you think it would go? I mean, all these things

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really promote creativity. So as we know, many

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people definitely want to join your team. So

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what qualities do you look for in young people

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that you want specifically? For me, right now

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is... honestly for my team specifically maybe

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not for i want ambition i want people who know

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what they want like and be ambitious enough to

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you know ask for it like okay what do you want

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in like three to five years people should have

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like specific like short term even like if you

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don't have a long -term goal you should have

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specific short -term goal like within six or

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one one year what do you want to gain like if

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you want to join my team what do you want financial

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gain how much within How many years? Because

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exactly if we know the compensation, we are able

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to like, okay, if you want this amount, this

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much, then what do you have to do? What do you

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have to, how do you grow into that financial

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incentive that you want? So ambitiousness, ambition

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is very, very, very important because if you

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want to stay still, you don't want to grow, you

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don't want to improve, then what's the point

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of, I would say living or even like... waking

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up then like yeah all right thank you Mr. Min

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that point about asking I like that a lot so

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thank you that kind of reminds me of something

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we talk a lot about here at school which is just

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being a lifelong learner so having ambition and

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just that ability to learn so that's really good

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we've covered a lot from your origin story and

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the challenges of starting out But we need to

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pause there for a quick break. When we come back,

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we're going to discuss resilience and how to

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handle that pressure when you're running an empire,

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if you can call it that, and get your advice

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for students who want to follow in your footsteps.

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So stay with us. We'll be right back after this

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short PSA. And that's a perfect pause point because

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you can't talk about flavor and business without

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talking about the foundation, safety and quality.

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This is a quick public service announcement for

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all our listeners who are planning their own

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food ventures. Whether it's a pop -up, a food

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truck, or a restaurant, food safety is non -negotiable.

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Remember the four C's of food safety that every

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successful kitchen lives by. Clean, cook, chill,

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and avoid cross -contamination. Your reputation

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is built on the trust your customers place in

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every single bite. Min's success with the Yuzu

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Group isn't just about bold flavors. It's about

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consistency and quality control on a massive

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scale. Make sure your business, no matter how

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small, prioritizes the health and safety of your

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patients above all else. A safe dish is a successful

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dish. And we are back. Before the break, Mr.

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Min shared how Yuzu Group began. Now I want to

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shift gears to the mindset of a CEO. Scaling

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a business isn't just about logistics. It's about

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managing. and managing a lot, including yourself.

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Proud, go ahead and get us started with this

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segment again. I think stress comes from when

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you face a certain situation and you don't know

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how to solve it. Stress happens because you don't

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know what to do when you face a particular problem.

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And when you don't know what to do, then you're

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stressed. But every time that you face... then

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you have to figure out the ways, right? Say when

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you go skiing, right? You have two choices. You

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look at the trees or you look at the way, right?

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Of course, I mean, you have to take into account

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the trees. It's a challenge. But then if you

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look at the trees, then you wouldn't find the

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solution or the way, right? So when you go skiing,

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you look for the pathway that you go through

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the trees. So usually when you see problems,

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you see problems as the tree when you go skiing.

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So it's like you have to look for the way, but

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the tree is not the problem. It's like you cannot

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find the way yet, but the tree is there. Why

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do you find the way around it? So that's every

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time when I think of problems, I think of it

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that way. So I think I have a pretty good stress

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management if I look at the problem or obstacles

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that way. Let's say another day, of course, every

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day we have unsolved problems and we have to

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think about it another. When the team or I myself

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cannot think of something, we try to sit on it

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a little bit. We'll circle back to it. The situation

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where we cannot solve that problem is not something

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to be stressful just yet. So I think when we

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have to look through it in another perspective,

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give it time, talk to a lot of people and then

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try to get something out of this problem. logically

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and like in a timely timely manner so i feel

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like we have done your best i feel like we have

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done our best in the time given to us already

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and we put it there sit around a little bit and

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then sit on a little bit and then come back so

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at the end of the day it's more like have we

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done our best to tackle this problem is there

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any because if everything we do minutes by minutes

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today is the best we can do to solve this problem

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let's let's do it tomorrow again so it's more

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like I think it's that kind of mentality that

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I have to manage my stress level. So frankly,

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it's like, OK, I can still sleep every night,

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you know, go to bed and wake up fresh. You know,

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it's not like it's in my head. I have to like,

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I cannot sleep like that. Shifting back to the

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mindset of the CEO, what emerging trends in food

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and hospitality should students pay attention

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to for wanting to get into this business? I think

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it's more like. behavior behavior of consumers

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these days is shifting a lot after covid i think

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i think after covid is the one thing right okay

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we we see a lot of like a rise in delivery like

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uh things but i think it's more like the i say

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the the world has become more digital the world

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has become stagnant with data online so i think

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it's more like people have access to i think

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um you have to bear with me for this. It's more

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like, I feel like people has been exposed to

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more like a monitors, like laptop, mobile, a

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lot. Everything has become so digital and then

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we are overwhelmed with data like graphics, illustrations,

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animations, movies. Everything is around us.

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Everything is digital already, right? So I feel

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like people are very overwhelmed with that. So

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back to the F &B industry. I think people are

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trying to escape it. I think it's more like a,

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I think the world, the new luxury has become

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more offline. in every way say i think in even

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in restaurant like people don't when when people

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eat i feel like it's more like a a time to relax

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a time to wind down right so in terms of menu

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even the food even the interior everything i

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think has everything has to be simplified in

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the next three to five years, I think we see

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a lot of, I think minimalism in terms of interior

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or even like simplification of menu or even the

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names or even the SKU of menu presented. You

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see a lot of brands right now that, you know,

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the brand that thrives right now is not the brand

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that has like, you know, a full -scale restaurant.

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Okay, full -scale restaurant is mainly for family

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dining or whatever. But I think people now, behavior

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change. People want something quick. People want

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something simple. Quick and simple. Simple, not

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just the food is simple. SKU has to be. very

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small, like easy to decide. If this restaurant

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sells chicken over rice, they sell chicken over

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rice. If you put noodles over rice or chicken

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over noodles, it becomes like stagnant. Like

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we are overwhelmed. Even though we look at it,

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we don't see why is it overwhelmed? But I mean,

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underneath are like, I don't know, everything

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that everyone has been exposed to all day. I

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feel like the SKU of the menu has to be... So

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to put it in a... Very plain word. It's like

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everything has to be super simple. Simplicity

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of everything in terms of F &B, specifically

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the industry that I'm in, I think is mandatory

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in the next three to five years. So what is one

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mistake young entrepreneurs should avoid? Over

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-invest in things. I think eight years that I

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do this business, I mean, I still, okay, I still

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figuring out a lot of aspects of business. I

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feel like people try, I think when we do business,

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we have only one aim, right? It's like if we

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do business, we set up a company, the company

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function is to make profit, right? To make profit

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is revenue minus expense is profit, okay? Whether

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it's marginal, net or whatever. But then if that

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is the business is created for, then the investments

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that, you know, people like a young generation

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or even me back then, even like a me a year ago,

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right? We tend to over -invest in a lot of things

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that shouldn't be invested in, right? So you

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have to prioritize the investment. Okay, F &B

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specifically, how do you invest in interiors?

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Like sound system, like raw material and everything.

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Do not over -invest. I've met people, okay, we

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want the best one. We want the good one. Okay,

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this is my first project. Let's do this this

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way. I want this exact table. It's expensive,

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but I want it. This and that. Prioritize things

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a little bit. Do things that matters to your

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business and can generate the most revenue. That

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has to make sense in the way. What's a practical

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first step a student can take to start a project

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or business? I think everywhere. I think right

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now, I think online. I think online would be

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something that everyone has to tap into. I think

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at this digital age, I mean, I think everything

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is possible. I'm thinking if I were 18 or 19

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or 20, I would study online e -commerce a lot.

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Then I would go into it, like how to minimal

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investment and sell to the most majority or mass

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group of people, mainly even in Thailand or around

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the world. I think if we figure that out, the

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algorithm of social medias and algorithm of how

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these channels and that channels and how influence

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like certain platforms or whatever, then... I

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think start online because super minimal investment

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and then limitless opportunities. If you could

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give one message to students dreaming big, what

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would it be? Okay, I think when I always encourage

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people to dream super big. I mean, you only live

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once, right? I mean, it's very cliche, but I

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mean, once in your life, whatever you want to

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do, you do it. You go do it. You go kick it in

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the butt. I don't know. But big, the size of

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the dream, I have to really emphasize on this.

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No one, your dream cannot be compared to other

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people's dream. Say, for example, say your dream

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is what? Grow 1 million trees in your lifetime,

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right? And stay in a cave with like your family,

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right? That's your dream, right? If you can achieve

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it, you do it. Bravo, good for you. Some people

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want 1 billion baht. Okay, good for them. Let's

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go do it. Some people want 10 million baht. Let's

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do it. But the $10 million and the $1 billion

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cannot be compared because people don't want

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the same thing, right? Okay, financial gain.

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Some people want to be in a money game. Okay,

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let's do it, right? But is it the whole dream

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that you ever dreamed of? No, but say it's your

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first dream, right? Whatever you want to do,

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as long as you don't harm people, you don't take

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advantage of people or being unfair or dishonest,

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I say you go do it. Whatever you want to do,

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you do it. But do not... Put your dream into

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a scale of other people. That's like, no, no,

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no, no, no. Yeah. Okay, well, thank you very

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much. I like that dream big, but don't compare

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to other people. I think that's a fantastic note

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to end on. Mr. Min, thank you again for being

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our guest today and for sharing your time and

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insights with us. Your journey from that first

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ramen shop till now is a powerful reminder. that

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passion combined with the right systems and a

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big dream can truly go global. And it has been

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our pleasure having you on the show. So thank

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you very much. And that brings us to the end

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of this episode. A huge thank you to Mr. Min

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for taking us inside the mind of a restaurateur.

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My big takeaway today, authenticity scales and

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don't settle for small dreams. Whether it's the

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hyper -regional food trends we heard about in

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the news or Mr. Min's dedication to quality and

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simplicity in his restaurant brands, success

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comes from when you refuse to compromise on what

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makes your product unique and special. Thank

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