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Welcome to Students Incorporated. I'm your host,

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Mr. Jason. Join me weekly as my students and

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I bring you content that's informative, positive,

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fun, and uplifting. This podcast is created and

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produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok. Let me ask you a

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question. You're out shopping in Bangkok and

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you have a choice to make. Do you step into a

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brightly lit store in the Siam Mall? Drawn in

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by the promise of a brand new trendy shirt for

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just a few hundred baht? Or do you spend your

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afternoon treasure hunting in a thrift shop searching

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for that one -of -a -kind piece that no one else

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will have? This isn't just a simple choice. It's

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a decision that connects your wallet, your values,

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and your identity. The world of fast fashion

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offers us speed, convenience, and the ability

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to participate in global trends. It's a massive

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part of modern youth culture. But that convenience

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comes with questions. The low cost on the price

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tag often hides a much higher price paid by our

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planet and by the people in the factories. That's

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the ethics of it. Can we feel good about what

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we wear if we don't know the story behind it?

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On the other side, there's the growing culture

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of thrifting. It's sustainable, it champions

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individuality, and it's often lighter on the

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wallet. but it has its own challenges. It takes

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time, patience, and a bit of luck. So this is

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our topic today, fast fashion versus thrift culture

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in Bangkok. We're not here to say one is good

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and one is bad. We're here to have an honest

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conversation about the pros and the cons of both.

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We'll explore the real cost, the complex ethics,

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and the vibrant culture surrounding the clothes

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we choose to wear every single day. Today, I'm

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joined by co -host Proud and Esther in our show's

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student producer highlight. But before we try

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to fix the global clothing industry, let's hear

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our quote of the day and get some headline news.

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Our quote of the day comes from the journalist

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Lucy Siegel, who cuts straight to the heart of

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this issue. She said, fast fashion isn't free.

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Someone somewhere is paying. I think that's so

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important because it forces us to look past the

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price tag. That price is paid by the environment,

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absorbing chemicals and textile waste. It is

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paid by garment workers, often in unsafe conditions

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for very little pay. And in a way, we pay for

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it too. By filling our closets with low -quality

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clothes that we have to replace over and over

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again, it really challenges us to think about

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what affordable truly means. And that's our quote

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of the day. Now on to some headline news. That

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quote is a perfect lead into what's happening

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in the news. Because the real cost of fashion

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is making major headlines globally. I've got

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three stories for you today that shows just how

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big this conversation has become. First up, from

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Reuters. The headline states, EU finalizes pay

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-to -waste rules for fast fashion brands. In

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a major move this month, the European Union has

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locked in its new environmental policy that will

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make clothing companies financially responsible

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for the entire life cycle of their products.

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This means brands, not taxpayers, will have to

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pay for the collection and recycling of textile

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waste. This is seen as a direct challenge to

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the business model of producing huge volumes

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of low -cost clothing. Second, a story from The

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Guardian reads, New report accuses ultra -fast

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fashion giants of widespread labor violations.

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An international labor rights watchdog released

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its annual report this past week. And it specifically

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calls out several major online retails for failing

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to ensure minimum wage and safe working conditions

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in their supplier factories. The report highlights

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the human cost that gets hidden behind those

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trendy, low -priced items we see advertised all

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over social media. And finally, on the other

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side of the coin, a headline from Forbes shows

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the power of the alternative. The headline states,

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second -hand market sees explosive 25 % growth

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in Southeast Asia, led by Gen Z. A new market

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analysis report shows that the online thrifting

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and resale market is booming in our region. It

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credits younger customers who are prioritizing

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sustainability, unique personal style, and affordability.

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It shows a clear cultural shift where used is

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now seen as not just acceptable, but fashionable.

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So from our new government regulations to ethical

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concerns and the rise of thrifting, it's clear

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this is a massive global conversation. And that's

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our headline news for this episode. Thank you.

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Esther, thanks for the news roundup. It really

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sets the stage. Let's bring this conversation

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into our own closets and start with the giant

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in the room, fast fashion. For this first part,

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I want us to break down its pros and cons. So

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let's start positive. What are the pros? Why

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is fast fashion so incredibly popular? When you

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walk into a big brand store in Bangkok, what

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is the immediate appeal? I'll open that question

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up to anybody. I think the most obvious thing

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is the price, right? It's the accessibility.

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You can have a small budget, maybe what you have

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for the week, and you can still walk out with

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something brand new. If you have a last minute

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event or a party to go, you can solve your...

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Oh, I have nothing to wear a problem in 30 minutes

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less than 500 baht. It's an instant solution.

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And it's the variety. It's not just one style.

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You can walk into one store and find 10 different

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aesthetics. You can experiment with who you want

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to be that day. One rack has a dark, academic

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look. The next has bright, colorful Y2K fashion.

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You don't have to commit to a style because nothing

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costs very much. It's like a fashion playground.

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I agree with both of those points. And also with

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Proud, there's a real dopamine hit that comes

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from it. The feeling of walking out of a store

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with a bag with something new and fresh that

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didn't break the bank. It makes you feel like

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you're participating, like you're current. It's

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a very powerful feeling. That's a great point

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about being current. It brings me to the social

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factor. How much of this is driven by social

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media? Proud, do you feel there's pressure to

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keep up with the styles you see on TikTok or

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Instagram? Oh, absolutely. It's immense. You

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see these haul videos where someone brought 20

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new items and trends moving at lightning speed

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now. Something is cool for three weeks and then

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it's over. If you see your favorite influencer

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wearing a certain type of top, you feel this

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pressure, this FOMO, fear of missing out. Tabitha,

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fast fashion brands are brilliant at spotting

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a trend on Monday and having it in their stores

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in Bangkok by Friday. And the algorithms feed

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it to you constantly. Once you click on one fashion

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video, your entire feed is full of these micro

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trends. It creates a sense of urgency that's

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completely manufactured. It makes you feel like

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your current wardrobe is outdated. Even if you

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just bought something last month, it's a cycle

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that's hard to get out of. Okay, so it's affordable,

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it's trendy, and it's constantly in our faces.

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But let's flip the coin. Esther, you mentioned

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the news about labor ethics. Let's start the

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cons there. How much should we be thinking about

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the people who make our clothes? I think it's

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the biggest con because it's so easy to ignore.

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The supply chains are designed to be out of sight,

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out of mind. We don't see the factories or the

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people working in them. But that low price tag

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has to come from somewhere. It comes from paying

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workers incredibly low wages from cutting corners

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on safety and demanding impossible production

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speeds. When a t -shirt costs less than your

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lunch, you have to ask, who's paying the real

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price for it? Oh, that's a powerful question.

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Highlight. We're proud. Is this something that

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crosses your mind when you're shopping? It does,

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more and more. It makes you feel a bit guilty,

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to be honest. You're standing there with this

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trendy top in your hand and you get a flash of

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the stories you've heard, and then you have this

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internal debate. Sometimes convenience wins,

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and you feel bad about it later. And of course,

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beyond the human cost, there's the massive environmental

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cost. What comes to mind for you when you think

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about the impact of producing so many clothes

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so quickly? It's staggering. I was looking this

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up for the show and the numbers are just crazy.

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According to the UN Environment Program, something

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like 60 % of our clothing is now made from plastics

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like polyester. So we're literally wrapping ourselves

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in fossil fuels. And every time we wash them,

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they shed microplastics. The Ellen MacArthur

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Foundation estimates that half a million... Tons

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of these plastic microfibers end up in the ocean

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every year just from us doing our laundry. That's

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the equivalent of more than 50 billion plastic

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bottles. Then you have natural fibers like cotton,

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which have their own issues too. A report from

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the World Wildlife Fund, WWF, states that it

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can take over 2 ,700 liters of water to produce

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the cotton needed for a single t -shirt. That's

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enough drinking water for one person for almost

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three years. And maybe the most shocking part

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is the waste. The scale is hard to comprehend,

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but that same Ellen MacArthur Foundation report

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says that globally, the equivalent of one garbage

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truck full of textiles is landfilled or burned

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every single second. It's just creating these

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mountains of trash. I found some other shocking

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news. An agency in France put out a report with

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images from the Atacama region in the country

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of Chile. This place became one of the world's

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biggest dumping grounds for unsold and used fast

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fashion. It looks like a massive landfill of

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clothes. The piles are so vast that they say

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you can now see the pollution stained from space.

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Seeing that, knowing it's real, makes it impossible

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to forget. It's not just a landfill. It's a monument

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to our overconsumption. Yeah, let's bring it

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back to our own experience then, which is maybe

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an easier con to see day to day. What about the

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quality? Have you all had that experience of

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buying a fast fashion item that you loved only

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for it to fall apart a few weeks later? All the

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time, it's almost a universal experience. You

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wash a shirt once and it shrinks half to its

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size, or the seam on a dress unravels the first

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time you wear it out. It feels like you're renting

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clothes rather than buying them. Exactly. I bought

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this really cute top once, wore it out, washed

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it carefully, and it came out with three small

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mysterious holes in it. It was completely unwearable.

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It's frustrating because it feels so wasteful.

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And that's part of the model. It's not a flaw.

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It's a feature. The clothes are not designed

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to last. They are designed to be replaced. So

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while you saved money on that one item, you end

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up spending more over time because you constantly

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have to buy new things to replace the old ones

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that fell apart. That's the concept of cost per

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wear. A 300 baht shirt you only wear twice actually

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costs you 150 baht each time you wear it. A better

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quality 900 baht shirt that you can wear for

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years might end up costing you just 10 baht per

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wear. The cheaper item is often the more expensive

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one in the long run. So there's a clear conflict

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between the immediate reward of fast fashion,

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the low price, the trends, and the significant

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long -term cost to people, the planet, and even

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our own wallets. It's a lot to think about. We're

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going to take a short break and we'll be right

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back after this PSA. We've talked a lot about

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the mountains of textile ways from fast fashion,

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but let's bring it closer to home. What happens

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when your favorite shirt, the one you wore on

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that perfect beach trip, gets a tiny tear or

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a button pops off? Our first instinct, the one

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we've been taught by a replace everything culture,

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is to sigh and think. Well, it's ruined. Do you

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toss it? We've become so used to seeing clothes

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as disposable, but it doesn't have to be that

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way. That small hole is an opportunity, not a

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death sentence for your garment. That's why we're

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introducing the Repair Don't Replace Pledge.

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It's a simple promise to yourself to try fixing

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it first. Think about it. A quick YouTube tutorial

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can teach you a basic stitch in five minutes.

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Manning a hem or sewing on a button is a small

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act of defiance against the cycle of waste. When

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you repair something, you do more than just save

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money. You honor the materials, the labor of

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the person who made it, and the memories you

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made while wearing it. You can even turn a repair

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into a style statement. A cool patch or some

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colorful visible stitching can make your old

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favorite truly one of a kind. Give your clothes

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a second chance. You might even find a relaxing

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new hobby. Repair it, wear it, love it longer.

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And we are back. In the first half, we broke

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down the complex world of fast fashion. Now let's

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switch gears and talk about the alternative,

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thrifting. While fast fashion has its hold, thrifting

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is really starting to take off and is growing

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big time here in Bangkok. What's making it so

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popular? I mean, it's not just about finding

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a bargain, right? Esther or Proud, any thoughts

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on why people are jumping on this bandwagon?

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I think a big part of it is that people are becoming

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more aware of how bad fast fashion is for the

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environment. After hearing stats like the one

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highlight shared, Thrifting feels like you're

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actually doing something good. You're saving

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clothes from ending up in a landfill, which is

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a huge deal. You're not just buying something

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new. You're giving an existing item a second

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life. That feels like a win. Totally. And it's

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also something unique about its factor. When

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you're thrifting, you're looking for something

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that's rare or has its own history. It's like

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hunting for treasures. You're almost guaranteed

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to walk out with something that none of your

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friends will have. Can you give us an example,

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Esther? What's the best treasure you've ever

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found thrifting? Oh, that's easy. Once I found

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this amazing, perfectly worn in denim jacket

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from the 80s at the Bangkok market. It has this

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cool faded, bland patch on its back. It's better

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made than any new denim jacket I could buy today.

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And it has its own character. The thrill of finding

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that perfect piece after an hour of searching,

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it's like winning the fashion lottery. For sure,

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Esther, and that ties into the cool factor. It's

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not cheap shopping anymore. People are proudly

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posting their thrift finds on Instagram and TikTok

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with the hashtag thrift flip. It's become a status

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symbol to show off your unique style. It says,

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look at me, I'm sustainable, I'm creative, and

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I don't follow trends. Gen Z is definitely leading

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that charge. And there's a whole subculture of

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thrift flipping now. People will go to a market,

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buy an oversized men's shirt or a pair of jeans

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that don't quite fit, and then they take them

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home and completely remake them. They'll crop

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the shirt, add new details or tailors to the

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jeans into a modern style. It's incredibly creative

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and entrepreneurial. It's not just consuming

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fast fashion. It's participating in it. And that's

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a fantastic point. It's like becoming your own

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designer. But it's not all treasure hunts and

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creative projects. Let's talk about the cons.

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What are some realities of thrifting that people

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might not see on social media? Esther? The biggest

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one is time. Thrifting isn't the instant gratification

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that fast fashion gives you. You can't just walk

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into the shop like Jatachak Weekend Market and

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expect to find something perfect in five minutes.

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It can be overwhelming. It's a real scavenger

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hunt. Sometimes you strike gold, but a lot of

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times it's a lot of drifting through stuff that

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has been stained, damaged, or even just not your

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style. You need to practice and take your time.

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Okay, let's be real. There's the ick factor for

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some people like me. The idea of wearing clothes

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that a stranger wore can be a hurdle. And sometimes

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the clothes have, you know, a certain smell.

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You absolutely have to wash everything as soon

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as you get home. Sizing is another big one. It's

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all over the place. A medium from 1995 is not

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the same as a medium today. Exactly, Proud. And

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as thrifting has become cooler and more commercialized,

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the prices are creeping up. Resellers will go

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into thrift stores, clear out all the best vintage

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and brand name items, and then sell them on Instagram

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for five times the price. This gentrification

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of thrifting means it can be harder to find a

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real bargain, and it can price out people who

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rely on secondhand stores for truly affordable

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clothing, not just for fashion. That is such

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an important point. It adds a whole new ethical

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layer into drifting too. So even the solution

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has its own set of complex problems. It seems

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the perfect answer isn't so simple. We've talked

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about the good, the bad, and the complicated.

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What's the final takeaway here then? I think

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it's about the balance and intention. Maybe you

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don't stop buying new things entirely, but you

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commit to making your first choice and a secondhand

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one. Or you learn one basic mending skills like

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we talked about in the break. It's about shifting

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the mindset from more is better to better is

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better. And it's not about being perfect. It's

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about being more aware. Every time you make a

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conscious choice, whether it's thrifting, repairing

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something, or just buying less overall, it's

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a step in the right direction. We're all learning

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and that's what counts. All right, that's a fantastic

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summary, so thank you for that. It's clear that

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whether we're in the mall or market, being a

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conscious consumer is what truly matters. It

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makes me think of a certain phrase, know your

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clothes so your clothes know you. And that phrase

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really means something. The first part, knowing

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your clothes, is a call to action. It's about

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understanding their whole story. It's asking

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those questions we've discussed today. What did

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this come from? Or where did this come from?

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And what are the ethics behind it? Was it made

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of? And what was the environmental cost? How

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can I care for it and make it last? And the second

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part, so your clothes know you, that's the reward.

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When you make those conscious choices, your wardrobe

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stops being just a random collection of disposable

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trends. It starts becoming a real reflection

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of who you are. Your clothes begin to tell your

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story, align with your values. and carry meaning.

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They become a true part of your identity. It's

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the ultimate shift from the mindless consumption

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to dressing with purpose. And that's all the

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time we have for today's look into the world

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of fashion, both the fast and the secondhand

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kind. We've covered a lot from the convenience

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and trends of fast fashion to the ethics, sustainability

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and unique treasures of thrifting. The biggest

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takeaway is that every choice we make about our

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clothes is a chance to dress with purpose. A

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huge thank you to my co -host Proud and Esther

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and to our wonderful producer and guest Highlight

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for adding to an insightful conversation. And

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of course, thank you to all of you for listening.

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