1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,240 Welcome to Students Incorporated. I'm your host, Mr. Jason. Join me weekly as my team 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,340 and I produce content that's informative, positive, fun, and uplifting. This podcast 3 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:18,480 is created and produced with the help of students from the International Community School of 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,300 Bangkok. In today's episode, we are joined by a husband-wife duo, special guests Sang 5 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:29,260 and Siri, and we'll be discussing the important topic of business and purpose along with personal 6 00:00:29,260 --> 00:00:33,920 growth and leadership. Also, a big shout out to this episode's sponsor, The Voice for 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,780 the Voiceless Club of ICS. Their mission is to spread awareness and raise funds for people-related 8 00:00:39,780 --> 00:00:45,640 causes that aren't talked about, essentially bringing a voice to the voiceless. So, a big 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,960 thank you to the active advocates at ICS for sponsoring this episode. Okay, moving on, 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,800 and before we jump into our first segment, let's hear our quote of the day and get some 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,800 headline news. 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,940 Our quote of the day comes from the one and only Dalai Lama. Our prime purpose in this 13 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:08,040 life is to help others, and if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them. I believe 14 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,320 this quote to be very versatile because it applies to companies and people. While you 15 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,680 live out there for the rest of your lives, both you and I could try to live it out while 16 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,080 trying to either do good or do no harm to others. Companies could make it their way 17 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,680 of operating, and most companies would not thrive if their sole purpose was to harm others. 18 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,800 So be nice and don't be mean. I mean, it's up to you. And that's our quote of the day. 19 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,760 Now onto some headline news with Mia. 20 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Thank you for our quote of the day, Frank. Now for today, let me introduce some companies 21 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:47,000 that adopted the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals presented to you by medium.com. 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,580 Our first SDG is focused on hunger, or quote unquote, working towards Sustainable Development 23 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:58,520 Goal Zero Hunger. Avant Meats is the first cultivated fish company in Asia with operations 24 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,120 in Singapore and Hong Kong. Thanks to Avant's technology, which uses state-of-the-art cultivation 25 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,260 processes that are both sustainable and scalable, they will be able to create fish meat without 26 00:02:09,260 --> 00:02:14,560 killing fish. Their cultivated fish products are more nutritious than conventionally produced 27 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:21,480 fish, GMO-free and pollutant-free. The product focus is fish and seafood tailored for the 28 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:27,200 food culture of consumers in China and Asia. The next SDG goal would be clean water and 29 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:34,880 sanitation. The UN estimates that 1.8 billion people will experience water scarcity by 2025. 30 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:41,080 Since 2017, Mahik Water has deployed projects in Kenya, South Africa and India, providing 31 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:47,160 sustainable water solutions for Fortune 500 corporations and pairing with community impact 32 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:53,400 projects, deploying 20,000 liters of drinking water per month to drought-stricken regions. 33 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,040 The current system, which captures water from the air and converts it into drinking water, 34 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,680 uses solar technology that can generate up to 10 liters of filtered water per day. The 35 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,520 team is working to increase that to 100 liters per day and to reduce the cost to produce. 36 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:14,760 And finally, the last SDG is quality education. New Tech Kids is a technology education academy 37 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:20,000 in Amsterdam that is dedicated to igniting the problem-solving capabilities and innovative 38 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,600 spirit of children. Their programs teach primary school children, computational thinking and 39 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,880 the fundamental concepts which power technology, programming and information in the digital 40 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:37,080 age. Gadgets, applications, software and hardware change continuously, but the core concepts 41 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:52,520 don't. And that concludes our headline news for this episode. 42 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Thank you for the quote in the headline news. We welcome Sang and Siri to the studio and 43 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,760 we're excited to hear a little bit about their journey as people on purpose and what that 44 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,720 looks like on a practical level. Mia will start us off with our first question. 45 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Hi, Mr. Sang and Ms. Siri. It's a pleasure to have you both here in the studio with us. 46 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,600 So for starters, could you both please introduce yourselves and share us your connection to 47 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,000 the school? Hi, my name is Sang. I currently serve on 48 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,160 the ICS board of directors in the role of the chairperson. I've had the joy to serve 49 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,640 in this role for 11 consecutive years out of 13 years of service. 50 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Hi, my name is Siri. Yes, just like the iPhone Siri, but S-I-R-W-E. I'm a mom here, have 51 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,360 three kids in senior year, junior year, and also seventh grade. Happy to be here. 52 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,800 All right. Thank you. And now as a follow up, and this is a question for both of you, 53 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,360 could you tell us about the different businesses that you're both involved in? 54 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,600 So we do have a few different businesses. Today we're going to focus on the coaching 55 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,280 business, but I do have a skincare business as well that focuses on natural skincare, 56 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:59,320 organic products that's really just healthier for your skin as an alternative for the mainstream 57 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,840 products. But today we're going to really focus on the fulfill purpose coaching business, 58 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:08,080 which involves the pickleball business as well. Really excited to share about that. 59 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,440 With so many businesses you guys have, we'd love to hear some of the back stories that 60 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,440 you guys about your business. So can you tell us what inspired you to do these things and 61 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,680 what did that personal journey look like? Yeah, well, it's actually a really long story, 62 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,240 but I want to make sure it's just succinct for the purpose of this podcast. But for me, 63 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:32,600 as a health coach and I really care about people, physical and internal, emotional things 64 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,040 as well. So the skincare is really about the physical aspects of things. I want people 65 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,920 to use health as a resource. As a health coach, we need to really recognize and acknowledge 66 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,040 that our health is really one of the most important resources we can use to do things, 67 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,400 to serve, to live, to go to school, to just do things in life to achieve success. So with 68 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,440 health as a good resource, skincare is one of those things where people, you know, I 69 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,800 myself had the problem where I was spending a lot of money on my skin, my skin. So I wanted 70 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:07,120 a solution to offer affordable and natural skin care. And now with the coaching business, 71 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,960 that's just a passion for me in terms of leadership coaching. This has been ingrained in me since 72 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,280 I was very young, doing different sorts of leadership roles and seeing that there's really 73 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:21,280 a need for people to learn this what you might call a soft skill. But it's a very important 74 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:27,720 sort of soft skill. And as my mentor, John Maxwell says, everything rises and fall leadership. 75 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,000 So whether the organization succeeds or fail, the leadership at the helm, whether it's one 76 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,680 person or a team or the board, really dictates that in the way they live out their leadership 77 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:45,480 values. So that's how I got into leadership. As a leadership coach, I focus on the executives. 78 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,760 So the leaders of the organizations. It's not that other positions are as important, 79 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,760 but leadership, especially at the top end is very lonely. And they have very unique 80 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,200 challenges. And so as an executive coach, that's my forte. I come alongside, I support 81 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,320 and I journey with them, whether it be six weeks is the shortest engagement to multiple 82 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,320 years. 83 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,060 Yeah, for sure. And Mrs. Siri, on the topic of coaching, we'd love to hear more about 84 00:07:11,060 --> 00:07:15,440 your insight into the coaching initiative. So could you please explain to us a little 85 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,160 bit about what fulfilled purpose coaching is? 86 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Great question. Thank you. So I'd love to share that. So basically, when we started 87 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,680 this business, it was about eight years ago, and coaching was very new to Thailand. And 88 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:34,680 actually, the first people who came as life coaches in Thailand, they kind of took it 89 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,120 in a different way, which isn't really coaching. So what coaching is, is more than just teaching. 90 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,320 So you know, everybody knows what teaching and training is. In Thailand, we have a quite 91 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,080 saturated market for teaching and training in terms of business skills, English, team 92 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,240 coaching, team training, things like that, we have a really big market here. So what 93 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,240 training does is you send your employees to a seminar, to a workshop, they get trained 94 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,920 in a certain skill, and then they go back to do whatever they're doing, hopefully they 95 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,280 would apply those skills. But there's this kind of like disconnect, because some people 96 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:12,720 may really take that and apply it. But most of the time, they don't always apply what 97 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,000 they learn on a regular basis. So if you're learning about leadership skills, you learn 98 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,720 about communication, communicating in a way that people can actually receive that message 99 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,280 and continue to apply it. Say if you're learning business English skills, right, for example, 100 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,320 something very specific, you learn in the class, but then when you go back to your daily 101 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,880 routine of work, you end up doing, you go back to your old habits, you forget what you 102 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:42,720 learned. So now coaching comes in when, for example, if a technical employee wants to 103 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,720 step into a managerial role, they need another set of skills, right? What we say is that 104 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:53,580 what got you here might not get you there, right? So coaching helps walk alongside that 105 00:08:53,580 --> 00:09:00,160 person to be able to apply new skills, leadership skills, soft skills, that allows them to work 106 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:07,480 better in that new role and responsibility they've been assigned. So then I was introduced 107 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,720 to coaching actually by somebody at my church. And so it was really eye opening to me because 108 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:19,280 it's like really interesting how powerful questions make such an important impact. In 109 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:24,080 training and teaching, you're like one way, you're feeding them information, feeding information, 110 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,380 they may take a test and assessment and see if they pass. With coaching, you're having 111 00:09:28,380 --> 00:09:34,320 a conversation, right? So you actually allow that coachee to lead the conversation. So 112 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,520 you may start off, okay, so what's on top of your mind? What would you like to work 113 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:43,200 on today? So they may say, okay, as a women leader, so I work a lot with women leaders 114 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,600 who are trying to step into leadership roles. And so, okay, I'm struggling with this because 115 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,640 I've been assigned this role to also coach somebody who's a male. And this is a real 116 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,880 dynamic that happens in the workplace. When a women leader steps up in Asian context, 117 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,440 sometimes it's a little harder. And if you're younger, you're female, you're trying to 118 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,880 supervise a male, maybe a technician, they may not respect you and they may need some 119 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,880 passive aggressive behavior. So she may say, well, I'm struggling with this context. This 120 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,840 happened last week. What do I do? Do I give them the solution as a coach? No, I don't 121 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,000 have to know exactly what they need to do for their job. But all I just need to know 122 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,440 is how to ask them the right questions. So they have this kind of idea of where to tackle. 123 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,560 Because the more they talk, the more you ask questions and where they share their ideas, 124 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:33,160 they're going to eventually land on like, imagine you're on a big balloon, right? You're 125 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,960 going up, the coaching conversation begins with a very big topic. So you're kind of up 126 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,600 here seeing the landscape from above. And by the end of the coaching conversation, after 127 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,840 45 minutes, you want to be able to land somewhere, or are they able to take two or three action 128 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,920 steps within the next two weeks. So that's why I felt it was really powerful. I don't 129 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,920 have to be an expert in any of the areas my coaches are, if they're a pilot, if they're 130 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,280 an astronaut, we could coach astronauts, we can coach anybody where we don't have our 131 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:07,640 expertise. But because we're able to ask these questions, not prescribe any answers, not 132 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,400 judging them in terms of their answers and allowing them to land somewhere where they 133 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,880 able to take action steps. So we saw this really powerful transformation in different 134 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,840 people and their growth in leadership. And that for me was just very satisfying. 135 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:26,640 I think sharing from experience, some of the unique things about coaching has been those 136 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,920 light bulb moments that happen. It's often that leaders don't have the time to reflect, 137 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,140 or have the bandwidth to reflect because they're just busy trying to get things done. But asking 138 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:44,520 even a simple succession of say, a five whys, that's a system. Five whys, you basically 139 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:50,800 peel back layers of an issue. You ask why is this particular thing happening? And then 140 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,920 as you dig in with another level of why, there's additional clarity. You might ask why, but 141 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,680 now pinpointing it to a particular person or situation or a timeframe. And then by the 142 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:08,520 time you get dig five layers deep, it's typically at the very root cause of something that they 143 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:15,040 didn't realize. So these powerful coaching questions and techniques allows a person to 144 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:21,960 basically explore from multiple angles, multiple dimensions. And typically the issue of time 145 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,680 is something that's often overlooked. And so it's very profound. 146 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,480 Definitely now with coaching, that's going to be some leadership and growth with the 147 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:35,560 customer. So could you talk about how leadership and growth look like on professional and personal 148 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:36,560 level? 149 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:41,920 So it's all about growth. It's all about this posture of humility and willing to learn, 150 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:48,440 being coachable. So when we engage with the company, the HR may have a list of people 151 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,800 they want us to coach. Now we may do a first kind of preliminary conversation with the 152 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,920 person because not everybody wants to be coached and not everybody understands who is this 153 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,760 person coming to tell me how to do my job. And we have to kind of dispel a lot of those 154 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,400 misunderstandings. Like I shared just now that we're not there to prescribe them solutions. 155 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,800 We believe that you know how to do your job better than us. Obviously, you know the best 156 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,560 way to deal with your job. And there are certain criteria where if this person also is on the 157 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:22,840 way out of the company, they're kind of giving them this last shot. Okay, we're going to 158 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,720 give some coaching. If this works out, we'll keep them. If this doesn't work, we're going 159 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,560 to let them go. We don't coach those individuals because we don't see potential for growth 160 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:38,840 in the company. So we coach those who have potential for growth in leadership and management. 161 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Like very often it's a technical skill moving up to a managerial position. So those are 162 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:49,020 the people we would have those conversations. If they're coachable, we would help them coach 163 00:13:49,020 --> 00:13:55,780 into their growth into managerial skills. Yeah. And this process could be six months. 164 00:13:55,780 --> 00:14:01,520 This process could be six weeks depending on when the budget of the organization, depending 165 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:08,960 on the timeline and things like that. And Coach Sang has a great case study. One of 166 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,280 our clients is the Leprosy Mission. So they have a great, maybe Sang, you can share a 167 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,600 little bit about that project. For the Leprosy Mission, they're a global organization and 168 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:24,160 they have a footprint in probably 40 different countries worldwide. It's assumed that Leprosy, 169 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,280 because it's not often talked about, it's a done deal. That Leprosy no longer exists, 170 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:35,640 but that's not actually the case. So there's a diverse group of both supporting countries 171 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,640 that are fundraising as well as implementing countries, which are actually doing the work 172 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:46,160 of reaching out to actually help people determine whether or not they have Leprosy. And then 173 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:53,100 there are medical doctors and teams that actually help them do the surgeries and provide medication 174 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:57,960 for them to alleviate their pain. The important thing about Leprosy Mission is that they are 175 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:04,280 very aware that their leadership, in order for them to reach their vision and their goals, 176 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:09,640 they need to be equipped with the right tools, the right mindset, and in a holistic way that 177 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:15,200 the entire leadership team is on board. So they begin with the vision that's very clear. 178 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:20,500 They begin with the mission that's very clear. And as everyone is also aligned with the values, 179 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:27,560 it allows them to support one another, come with the same foundation. And for myself, 180 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:35,440 the past couple of years, I've coached 21 global leaders at the national levels for 181 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,360 them to be able to not just impact their current teams, but also how they interact with other 182 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,000 supporting teams in other countries. And so it's been a true joy. 183 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,240 I just want to add to that, because I overhear some of the coaching conversations that he 184 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,800 has, and it's just amazing that Coach Sang is so patient. Because when you're coaching, 185 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,880 you're entering this conversation where you really don't know where the coach is going 186 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,840 to take you. And it's your role to kind of bring them down, right? Have them get a safe 187 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,560 landing after that big conversation. They can go in different directions. But Coach 188 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,640 Sang's role is really to guide them to come down safely in a way. And it takes a lot of 189 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,320 patience. This is really powerful, because it's not just a time for them to just vent 190 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,800 and just say anything. But really, it's a productive time where you need to, after this, 191 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,760 you have things you have to do and then come back, keep the person accountable to continue 192 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,600 their growth in different ways. And each person's growth is very different, right? You'll see 193 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,640 some are more coachable than others. You'll see some people are a little bit kind of forgetful 194 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,680 as well. So the coach's role is really to continue to connect with them and remind them 195 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,360 to stay on track. Yeah, for sure. I feel like posture of learning, 196 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,920 having that lifelong learning attitude, or even helping people reach their goals, their 197 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:50,160 mission and their visions. And also getting on the same page. Like, is it hard to not 198 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,480 offer your own opinion and offer a service during the coaching sessions? That's just 199 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,840 so hard. Yeah. That's why he's a better coach than me. Because for me, like, I want to solve 200 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,560 your problem. Just let me teach you how to do this. But Sang, you'll be like, yeah, so 201 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,360 much more patient. Well, I think that I'm very intentional in 202 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:11,680 explaining that this is primarily a coaching relationship. So I will be asking most of 203 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:18,640 the questions. But in certain situations that we become stuck, or it's like, I have no idea. 204 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,240 I've tried x, y, z, nothing seems to work. I will intentionally ask, can I take off my 205 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:31,700 coach hat and put on an advisor hat? I asked for permission. And when they do give me permission, 206 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:37,120 then I give them ideas. And then I switch out that hat. And I think that's that's to 207 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:44,960 remain to, yeah, conserve the integrity of me as a coach, and respect them as a leader 208 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:51,300 that has unique problems that no doubt they've tried to problem solve it. But they sometimes 209 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:58,920 don't know any other way, just because they're either young in the in their roles, or, yeah, 210 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,360 no one's mentored them before. All right, thank you. Thank you for that answer. And 211 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:07,080 now we'll be moving away from the coaching topic a little bit. And we'd actually like 212 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:12,320 to hear more about personality assessments and what benefits or insights these tests 213 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,820 can provide. Yeah, absolutely. I love personality assessments. I'm just fascinated by people 214 00:18:17,820 --> 00:18:23,240 and personality because God really made us so unique. And he uses this in different ways. 215 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:28,840 And there's no negative personality. There's like, no bad personality in terms in the context 216 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:35,920 of work. Now, it's just in the context of professional development, we can have get 217 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,200 the mistake where we're telling a monkey to go swim or telling a fish to climb a tree. 218 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Right. So sometimes the frustrations of different managers come when I keep telling this person 219 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,440 what to do, I give you them all the resources, I tell them excitedly what to do. But why 220 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,560 are they still not succeeding or meeting my expectations. So sometimes we go back, okay, 221 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,200 so who is this person? Is this a monkey or is this a fish? You know, just like figuratively. 222 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,440 So when you dig deeper, we have different tools that we can use like disk is very popular. 223 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Our favorite one at FPC for field purpose coaching is actually Hogan, because it doesn't 224 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:15,700 label people as a certain number or a certain letter, but it basically sees them on a spectrum 225 00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:20,520 of different things. So in terms of we talk about the light side, the bright side of the 226 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,640 person, the dark side of the person, and their values, what makes them tick. So the bright 227 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,880 side is like what you see their positives or strengths, you know, the things that they 228 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,320 bring to work most of the time, that's why they're hired for, you know, their strengths. 229 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,520 The dark side are things that don't come out unless they're very stressed. So these things 230 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:45,200 you may not see initially in a person at work, but if they're really stressed or really press 231 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,360 the corner, these things will come out. And these can derail them from stepping up into 232 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:55,400 that new promotion, that next promotion. And then values, what is important to that person 233 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,400 to make them tick, what motivates them to get up every day to do something, what is 234 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,920 meaningful for them. And each person will be very different. And this spectrum will 235 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:11,080 tell us the purpose is to either to hire, HR departments can use this tool, Hogan assessments 236 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,200 to hire people for a certain job. They can also use this tool for promotion, promoting 237 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:22,520 within the company. And also they can also hire this to just as a team dynamic. So we're 238 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,360 sitting here, five people sitting here at a table, we will look at our Hogan results 239 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:30,700 and see, okay, where are some dysfunctions here? Where are some issues? Like it really 240 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:35,440 digs deep, deep into like why are certain things happening that we just can't really 241 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,880 put our finger on? So as a team workshop with these Hogan assessments out, we're able to 242 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,920 share safely, this is my result, this is my dark side, and really be honest with each 243 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,600 other, honest with yourself, acknowledging it. And before we do the team dynamic session, 244 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,240 we do it private first. So when I give the assessments, which I love to do to interpret 245 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,040 the results, to tell them, okay, this is what I see, this is what you see, do you agree? 246 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,760 What are your some comments? So we see again, we're not prescribing, okay, this is who you 247 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,940 are, you have to be like this. But if statistically, it is quite accurate to the person, but we 248 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:17,640 obviously allow them to share their feedback to their own results. And that's very powerful 249 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,920 because, oh, that's why, you know, this is why in this context, I'm like this, it's all 250 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,320 context, context based, in terms of their specific role. And so we're very fascinated 251 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,960 by using Hogan. And that is usually recommended before doing a coaching assignment with a 252 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,080 coach that way the coach understands them and they understand what is my derailer that 253 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:44,560 is really keeping me from stepping up to that next level. It's great data to have. 254 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,520 For me, this is an area of challenge. I visualize it as the matrix, all those green Japanese 255 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,840 characters that are falling like rain. Siri sees it as pictures, I still see them as green 256 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:02,520 dots. But I think what's fascinating is the detail that Siri is able to bring to unpack 257 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:09,480 and visualize as to what that data means. It's an ability that if you are able to understand 258 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:15,360 after interaction with the person, it brings this whole wealth of background knowledge 259 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:19,920 that you wouldn't otherwise typically talk about. It provides insights into their own 260 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:25,080 personalities that they might be shy to let others become aware. Yeah, so it's a very, 261 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,080 very powerful tool. But it has to be done with the understanding like Siri mentioned 262 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:36,600 before. It's statistically very accurate. But when I do a debrief, I will often say, 263 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,240 when you read through, have some highlighters in hand. Greens are the things that when you 264 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,680 read it, you're like, this is absolutely something that I agree with, as well as a red highlighter 265 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:52,200 to say this is something I absolutely disagree with. Why? Because maybe those are their blind 266 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,640 spots. Right? And if they're the first person to identify it, then may also will likely 267 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,880 be the person to say, I'd like to understand why this in this result is completely opposite 268 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,920 of what my belief is. And then we can explore from there. So it's very interesting. Yeah, 269 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,840 definitely. The idea of a spectrum for personalities is a good assessment tool. Is this similar 270 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:19,240 to like a continuum type concept? A person's personality is more nuanced than just being 271 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:26,560 stuck into one category. Absolutely. And as a follow up and final question for segment 272 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:32,000 one, how does the idea of having a purpose with goals play into a person's professional 273 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,120 and personal life? Yeah, absolutely. It's very, very important. Now, the question, what's 274 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:41,200 my purpose in life? It's a huge question that we don't try to help anybody answer the question, 275 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,120 you know. So like what I tell my clients and even my kids, you know, what is your purpose 276 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:50,160 in this season? Let's just look at this quarter. You know, it just break it down because your 277 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,840 purpose changes. I mean, just as a testimony of myself, I went to, I wanted to go to art 278 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,280 school. And then my dad said, you know, art doesn't make any money. You can't go to art 279 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,360 school. So I went to business school. I did accounting and then followed by economics. 280 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,840 So I went to business school just like he wanted me to. And that was my purpose to finish 281 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,320 well, you know, as a good student, as a good daughter, then went to work for the private 282 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,280 sector and well, nonprofit first and then private. And then eventually, what did I do? 283 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,400 I ended up doing graphics anyway, started my own company doing graphic design, because 284 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:25,440 that was me, you know, inside. So each purpose, I feel my purpose right now is no longer in 285 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,640 that area because it's changed. It's didn't become health coaching and pickleball, which 286 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:35,400 we'll talk about next. So as you have these big goals, I like to help people break them 287 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,200 down in terms of the time, you know, have a time bound within this quarter was what is 288 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,880 your purpose in this quarter, because we got allow ourselves that room to change, to grow. 289 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,440 And you never know how you'll surprise yourself as you grow into your 20s, 30s, 40s. Life 290 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320 is an adventure. All right. Thank you. And that concludes our first segment. And I'd 291 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,280 love to hear more about the graphic design part of your background. So all right, we'll 292 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:10,720 be right back after this short PSA announcement. Let joy arise pickleball tournament EP three 293 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:17,120 and festival is coming to ICS this November 29 to 30. It falls on a Friday to Saturday. 294 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:23,200 It has 24 events ranging from 14 you all the way up to 60 plus categories, both in the 295 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,680 advanced and open, which means that you not only have to be high level players, but you 296 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,000 can also be beginners and intermediates and still have an opportunity to compete. We are 297 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,040 looking for a variety of different positions to help us make this event a success and the 298 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:45,080 ICS community and students and volunteers have been integral and have allowed for this 299 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,920 let joy arise pickleball tournament to be a resounding success the past two times, both 300 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:57,000 last November, as well as this past March, we invite you to join us and sign up online 301 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,520 or in front of Mr. Mike's office for the link and information. And as a special just for 302 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:09,400 ICS students, we are giving the registrations for free whether you apply for the 14 you 303 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,760 or 18 you categories. So long as you're applying as an ICS student to compete, we will waive 304 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:21,040 your fees. So come join and compete. And we're back with our segment segment and we still 305 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,680 have saying in Syria in the studio. We're on the topic of purpose, leadership and growth. 306 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,020 Mia, go ahead and get us started again. All right. Thank you so much for the PSA and for 307 00:26:30,020 --> 00:26:34,840 spearheading the pickleball sport here in Thailand. So could you start by telling us 308 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,720 about what inspired you to start pickleball? Well, this is totally sang's idea. I think 309 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:45,160 my strength is turning hobbies into businesses. So I was saying told me what this saying you 310 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,640 got to do this, but let's figure out a business way to do it. But you got to share what got 311 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,640 you into pickleball. Well, I have a lot of time on the road. And so I love to listen 312 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,080 to podcasts, you know, expanding my repertoire of knowledge. All right. And in one of these 313 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,720 podcasts I came to learn about pickleball and that is how it's growing explosively 314 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:09,240 abroad. But what really tickled my mind was how the reasons why pickleball is growing. 315 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,000 It's not just because it's a new sport. It's actually an old sport, but the way it integrates 316 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:22,440 both cross genders, cross ages and people that have very low competency or have for sports 317 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,400 or reduced athleticism, whether it be from injuries, whether it be from age, they're 318 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,560 still able to play pickleball and play at not just a high level, but play it with joy. 319 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,960 And from that, yeah, we were just intrigued that where do we play pickleball? And we found 320 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:47,720 it very hard to find places and buy equipment. But what were problems as Siri says, we could 321 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,160 see this as a hobby or we can actually do this as a professional business. So let me 322 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,640 segue to Siri. Yeah, so we definitely saw it as a business opportunity, but our play 323 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,800 was pretty full already. Now, my background was in multimedia, e commerce, graphics, right? 324 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,040 It's like, if you really want to do this on the side, we can probably just start an online 325 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:12,400 store and see how that takes off. And it literally took off. So like, by April, May last year, 326 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,920 we were like, okay, this is taking over so much of our time. Let's see how we can really 327 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,280 explore this to be make it a really sustainable business. So that's how we got into the business 328 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,080 side of things. But now there's also the ministry side of things because we work with bond guy 329 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,800 youth center, which is in the club, the bond guy slum area around there, if you're familiar. 330 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:38,200 So we kind of want to go, we've been doing this over 10 years, just trying to be adults 331 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,480 and mentors in this community where kids are basically raising kids. So it's not a slum 332 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,920 community per se, it's a low income community, where the parents work really hard daily all 333 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,840 the time. So the kids are with each other a lot. Now there's this youth center there, 334 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,400 there's a basketball court, football court on like just cement ping pong equipment, things 335 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120 like that, that we've been donating, sending volunteers to play with the kids. And then 336 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,720 when we saw pickle balls, like, wow, this is great. This is like a game that even girls 337 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,720 can play because you know, basketball, soccer is mostly male dominated, mostly boys. So 338 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,400 this is a sport that girls can pick up older adults can pick up. Because while it was called 339 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,360 the youth center, now it's recreational center, because there's actually older adults who 340 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,120 are doing dancing, Tai Chi ballroom dancing there as well. So pickle ball would be a perfect 341 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,560 addition. So that's where we're like, okay, we got to kind of inject pickle ball in this 342 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,920 community to bring more joy. And that's one of the projects we initiated this past year 343 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:41,920 called arise and share the pickle ball joy. And we had a brand launch at M Corte 19 September 344 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,200 last year, right in the waterfall area there, we launched this charity project launch our 345 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:53,440 brand. So a lot of support from sponsors really aligned with our vision. And actually just 346 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,840 this past Saturday, we went out to lowbury and we gave the equipment to public school, 347 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:04,800 which would be the eighth location we've given free equipment to. And we didn't do this alone. 348 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,760 They're like a pickleball community that meets in the mornings that had this connection to 349 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,600 this community. So she was one who initiated this project. And so we just come alongside 350 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,440 with a lot of people who have like minded heart and passion to share the pickleball 351 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,440 joy. 352 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,060 It's obvious that pickleball fits into the topic of wellness. And it's cool to hear how 353 00:30:24,060 --> 00:30:29,440 this can be used to reach out to all people and in a way, build a community. So moving 354 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:35,760 on with the topic of wellness, what role does wellness play in your work? And how would 355 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,480 you describe the wellness focused business you have? 356 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Yeah, so really interesting story. So the term arise didn't start with pickleball. It 357 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:51,960 was my health studios name. I started this in November 2019, right before COVID. So arise 358 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,920 health studio, we started a studio in lopini tower. And so I had to close the studio in 359 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,800 March 2020. So the name arise was always there to arise health, have people more energy, 360 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,320 you know, help restore people and things like that. So I'm a personal trainer and fitness 361 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,720 nutritionist and health coach by training as well. And so when Sang introduced me to 362 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,040 pickleball, I was like, wow, this is really fun. Because your burning calories, having 363 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,420 fun is very social. So it really addresses the physical aspect of health, the social 364 00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:26,600 aspect of health, emotional health, just people being really lonely after COVID and during 365 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,560 COVID. And so when you know, you're as a health coach, you try to get people to walk, okay, 366 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,720 walking is really important walk, run, do some cardio. If you even dread walking, they 367 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,280 don't like walking. It's like it's so simple, just go walk, but they just, you know, but 368 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,720 when you introduce pickleball, people are actually exercising at the same time. Yesterday, 369 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,480 I mean, on my watch an hour and a half, I burned 600 some calories, an hour and a half. 370 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,480 So you know, that's really effective. And you're having fun, you're laughing, you're 371 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,160 meeting new friends. So pickleball is so important in terms of that's why we're really passionate 372 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,320 about it to introduce pickleball to so many people to get exercise. But obviously, you 373 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,800 have to have that nutrition aspect too, because sometimes you get really hungry and you end 374 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,240 up drinking and eating a lot more afterwards. 375 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Can you share a little bit about the mental health aspect? 376 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Yeah, so people are super lonely. And we know that it's hard to make new friends as adults, 377 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,480 you know, so enjoy your time in high school and college, it's easier to make friends. 378 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,820 But as adults, it's a lot harder to make friends. But we have just been so amazed at how many 379 00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:33,560 connections we made over this past year, I think we've made at least 200 new friends 380 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:40,000 or acquaintances, you know, on different levels of depth, but people just connect, right, 381 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,600 all sorts of demographics, professions, ages, and they the common factor is pickleball. 382 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:53,320 And what I've seen testimonies, multiple testimonies, people that were depressed and lonely, when 383 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,040 they have a reason to leave their homes in order to play with others to enjoy and experience 384 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:04,760 together, and just the satisfaction from hitting a small ball inside a court. And you know, 385 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,560 sometimes you get smashed at, but sometimes you get to smash at others as well. It's deeply 386 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,780 gratifying, as simple as that sounds. But it's something that's competitive, yet friendly. 387 00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:19,200 And so I think that it strikes this really unique balance as being one of the main reasons 388 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:26,040 as to why pickleball has been so successful. And the other thing, Apple Watch, that's what 389 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,120 the most popular watch or a sold watch in the world. It tracks all this data. And the 390 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,000 people that have been playing pickleball, especially the older generations, it's been 391 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,960 statistically proven that it's helped to delay onset of Alzheimer's because that pickleball 392 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:49,960 is both a slow and a fast game. So it requires you to be both strategic as well as power, 393 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,800 if you want to. And so using all aspects of your brain really helps with this mental health 394 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,960 aspect. And that's, for me, amazing. 395 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,840 Yeah, that's so good to hear how a simple sport like pickleball, it can connect and 396 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,760 be so engaging with other people. Like you said, like the 60 plus category in the Arise 397 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,840 Pickleball Tournament. I think like no matter how old you are, playing games with other 398 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,240 can also be enjoyable and fun. And also, like just personally, on a side note, I really 399 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:21,080 like how your businesses are super successful, but you're also keeping the businesses in 400 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:27,440 line with wellness, purpose, faith. So I think that's really great. And now that we're actually 401 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,960 on the topic of faith, how does your own faith influence the purpose behind your businesses 402 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,360 and your approach to serving others? 403 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,160 My faith definitely affects everything that we do in terms of seeing people more than 404 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:47,280 just the surface level, because we see that God made each person for a very specific purpose. 405 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,040 And each purpose, you know, you got to respect that, that maybe you might expect them to 406 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,560 be a certain way. But in the end, you got to let God have the room to see how they grow 407 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,160 in different aspects. And this is in the context of coaching, in the context of bringing pickleball 408 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,640 to youth in the Bunkai community, because these kids are believing in karma. You know, 409 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,520 they believe they're stuck in this situation. I'm poor, I don't have anything. My parents 410 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,640 are here with me because of something bad I did in my last life. And our message has 411 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,800 always been that is not true. You know, you have control of your life to a certain extent, 412 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,440 and we want them to feel empowered. We want them to feel seen that God loves you, God 413 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,040 sees you, you have potential. And this is where we want to build kids up in a way outside 414 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,920 the school using pickleball as sports as a tool, so that they can feel good about themselves. 415 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,320 Because when kids are able to accomplish something, they're able to hit a goal, kick a goal, and 416 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,040 they're able to shoot the basketball in the hoop, they're able to play pickleball and 417 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,440 they feel good about themselves. And that is self-efficacy, helping them feel empowered. 418 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,240 And that way, that is a bridge for them to know that they were created with a unique 419 00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:02,440 purpose, that they are special, they are loved, and they can grow out of this situation that 420 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,920 they're born in. You know, these things are out of their control. But there are certain 421 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,160 things you can control, the effort you put in into a certain sport, the effort you put 422 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,160 into school, the effort you put into relationships. And that's where we come in, where we want 423 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,840 to be those adults in these relationships, where if they ever need anybody to talk with, 424 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,360 if they ever need anybody to listen to them and just be there to have fun, we can be there. 425 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,720 We're not there to bash Bibles on their heads. We believe it's all about relationship because 426 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:36,040 we do this with love. Because without the love, what's the point? You know, what's the 427 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,100 point if we go and we teach all sorts of things and the kids may learn, they may not learn, 428 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:45,360 but then we're doing it on some religious duty? I don't think that's going to bear fruit 429 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,480 the way that God desires because we need to depend on Him to share His love. And this 430 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,840 love, the giving that we give to each of these communities, whether it's these schools and 431 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,960 youth centers, is not giving out of fear. And actually our values for a company is in 432 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:08,560 the acronym GIFT, G-I-F-T. So giving generosity, not just because it feels good to give, not 433 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,040 because we're doing this to get merit. We're generous for impact. So that's the I. G-I-F-T, 434 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,720 be generous for impact. So that actually impacts a person. There has to be some kind of fruit 435 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:25,160 that we pray will come out from what we do. And then faith, they'll always do with faith, 436 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,800 not making decisions out of fear. Because in business, sometimes we are afraid of the 437 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,880 bottom line. It's just a reality. But as long as we are aligning things with what God wants 438 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,560 us to do, we're making decisions on faith, not fear. We're able to give out of a spirit 439 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,840 of joy. And then we want to be true to mission. Our mission is not about paddles, in terms 440 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,680 of Rise to Biggaball, it's about the people. It's always about equipping people, empowering 441 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,080 people. And that's why we sponsor athletes. So one day in eight years, 12 years, if Biggaball 442 00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,200 gets into the Olympics, SEA Games, Asian Games, we will have a Thai national team where we 443 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,840 had a little part in investing in these athletes to sponsor them with the best equipment possible. 444 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,440 To play their game the best so that they can be elevated to the national level. So all 445 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,800 this is really undergirded by our faith, knowing that people are created for a purpose. And 446 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,920 we want to come alongside people as coaches, as equipers to help them have the resources 447 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,040 in their hands to do their best, be their best and fulfill their purpose. 448 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,760 Definitely, definitely. So our next question now has to do with the habits. And this question 449 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,320 is also for both of you. We know that you've led the Habits Workshop. So could you share 450 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:40,360 some of your insights on cultivating healthy habits, both personally and professionally? 451 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,160 Yeah, it's definitely very more habits. You know, behavior will build habits and habits 452 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:52,480 build character. And so the opportunity to sow into high schoolers, ICS is so important. 453 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,320 If you have bad habits now, it's going to be really hard to break habits in the future. 454 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,060 So we believe that as long as you're able to identify positive habits, negative habits 455 00:39:01,060 --> 00:39:08,000 that would derail you, and are able to implement habits consistently in a way that's realistic, 456 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,720 it can really be a powerful tool for you to propel yourself towards whatever goal you 457 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:17,880 have. And again, within the context of time, within this quarter. So in our Habits Workshop, 458 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:23,160 we work on habits that are meaningful to you. You know, so if sometimes it's kind of tricky 459 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,520 because people think habits and activities or goals and activities are the same thing, 460 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:35,920 but it's not. So for example, if your goal is to wake up at 6am every day, that's not 461 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,200 necessarily a meaningful goal. I would dig a little deeper. Like, so why is that important 462 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,920 to you? You know, so sometimes it's really interesting, right? Because when the Habits 463 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,440 Workshop, we just dig and the kids ask you a little bit more, ask you a little bit more 464 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,520 to we get, okay, that's the goal. Because I want to be able to have my parents proud 465 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,520 of me or things like that, you know, but that again, it's also not a very clear goal. So 466 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:05,680 we dig a little deeper into that. So but habits, as long as you have these practical things 467 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,200 you're able to do now, you can apply them in the next stages of your life in college 468 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,280 and beyond. All right, thank you for that answer. And now just as a follow up question, 469 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,240 what are some practical ways a person can integrate purpose, faith and wellness into 470 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:24,640 both of their professional and personal lives? The thing is about knowing yourself being 471 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,680 somewhat self aware, knowing what you like, knowing what you should say no to knowing 472 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:37,360 what you should say yes to in certain seasons, and knowing what you believe God has called 473 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,960 you to do in this particular season, right? So we have goals, we have ideas of our life 474 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,400 that we want to do. But for us, just an example, we have three kids very busy season, right? 475 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,400 Namkeeng and Bonam, senior and junior, they're more independent, they're doing their own 476 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,960 things. But yeah, we want to really spend this last year with Namkeeng because she's 477 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,720 about to leave for college. So but then we have our business that we could go further 478 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,800 faster right now, but then we will be sacrificing time with our kids. So again, it comes down 479 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:14,280 to values. What do I want to say yes to say no to so that I don't regret 2024? Right? 480 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,440 So I have to say no to certain things. And then I have to be able to also know where 481 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,560 I'm self sabotaging a little bit, because honestly, I'm an introvert, right? So like 482 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,320 being in front of people, things like that is really hard. And I dread it. But then after 483 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,720 I do it, I'm like, okay, I'm glad I did that. Right? So those things were like, okay, this 484 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:39,240 is an opportunity. God wants me to take this platform, even though I don't want to take 485 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:44,000 the platform. And then after I do, I was like, okay, God, thank you for allowing me to do 486 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,800 that. Just a very simple example. We know a lot of people in the pickleball, you know, 487 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,320 and then most of them are different, you know, worldviews, things like that. Right? So they 488 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,400 had a Halloween party, which we don't celebrate Halloween. There's like a black and white 489 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,280 and not what's on neon, right? glow in the dark pickleball party. And we're like, we 490 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,600 don't really want to be a part of that. Because, you know, we, we don't associate ourselves 491 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,440 with Halloween and dark things like that. But I really felt God telling us to go and 492 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,360 be a part of this to build relationships. So we went and there was there were so many 493 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:21,840 meaningful religious conversations at that party. And just because we feel like black 494 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,800 and white, oh, Halloween, no, right, but then you pray a little bit more and seek God for 495 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,000 what is important to him, which is the people we're not going for the Halloween party, we're 496 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,600 going for the people to make those connections and have those conversations. So that really 497 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:42,840 drives you in terms of, you know, the decisions you make. And time for yourself rest is important 498 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:48,040 because I'm a recovering a workaholic. I used to sleep at three and when I was doing graphics, 499 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,720 I was like a slave to my clients. So again, that's just realigning my mind. I'm not a 500 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:58,000 slave to my work. I'm doing this because it adds value, but I'm also going to be able 501 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,700 to have to say no and retreat and just rest as well because I can't be pouring out from 502 00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:07,440 emptiness running to be filled to do that with joy. 503 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,800 Definitely. Now, looking ahead, are there any new projects or initiatives you've been 504 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,920 on the horizon? We believe in partnerships and we believe that synergies will allow for 505 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:25,560 big ideas to come about in a much better way, in a quicker way. And it also reduces risk 506 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:31,080 because if everyone's bringing their own interests and their own strengths to whatever project, 507 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:38,720 whatever initiative, it almost guarantees that whether fast or slow, it will succeed. 508 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:42,600 And same thing, we've taken the same principles to the business of pickleball. Looking at 509 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,160 the sponsorships that we've been able to approach and receive, the holistic approach 510 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,680 of partnerships is the backbone of why it's successful. We are inviting companies such 511 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:59,260 as Tiger Plast that does bandages to a pickleball tournament because people will get injured. 512 00:43:59,260 --> 00:44:06,040 Why not bring them to get preventative care such as bandages or wristbands or elbow bands 513 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,720 or whatever the rest. And what about hotels? Well, if hotels is a place where people go 514 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:18,360 to rest and have fun, can they also not partner with a pickleball tournament? Well, there'll 515 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,480 be some venues that are coming to support our event as well too. 516 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:28,040 Sikumitsui 56 is just on the horizon and we've been given the green light to be able to share 517 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:36,200 this. So Sikumitsui 56 is going to have two designated premium covered pickleball courts. 518 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:42,400 And it's a very quaint soy, but it's a very athletic side street because there is a fitness 519 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,480 gym just down the road. There's a tennis court already there, plus a pickleball basketball 520 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:54,560 court as well too. Plus these two upcoming pickleball courts. And it's going to be, for 521 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:00,120 lack of a better word, player-centric pickleball court, meaning that the courts will actually 522 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,440 have enough room that you're able to play safely. It's not squeezed into a small area 523 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,520 with just enough room to swing your paddle and then bump into the back wall, but it's 524 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,000 actually going to be player-centric. So very, very excited. 525 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,200 And just as a follow-up question, do you think it would be possible to have a pickleball 526 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:25,880 court here at ICS? ICS has 12 courts that we're going to be using for our pickleball 527 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:32,760 tournament because it uses the same lines, outside lines, as a badminton. And so that's 528 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:38,080 why it's able to grow so fast because all you need to do is buy the right net. You have 529 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,480 some paddles, you have a ball, you're at it. You just have to re-tape one line, which is 530 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:48,920 called the non-ball is owner, the kitchen line. And it's legit. So it's so easy. 531 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,880 That's great. That's great. Okay. All right. So like you said, Mr. Sang, partnerships are 532 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,240 definitely really important and it will be interesting to follow the growth of the new 533 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:03,160 pickleball-focused facility. And finally, now that we are on the final question of this 534 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:09,080 episode, we like to end our guest segments by asking you guys for advice. So what advice 535 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:15,060 would you give to someone or anyone who wants to create something meaningful and purpose-driven 536 00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,480 business or otherwise? 537 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,400 Well, I believe, I've seriously touched on this before, that God has uniquely equipped 538 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,640 each person with passions and interests and giftings. I would encourage them to explore 539 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:32,240 it, go for it. No regrets. I think that at the end of your life or when you bump into 540 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:39,560 significant hurdles, regrets are oftentimes the biggest things to process. So without 541 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,880 regrets, whether you succeed or fail, it's likely that you will have learned and you 542 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,560 would have grown. And so that would be my last words. 543 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:54,960 And for me, just don't be afraid to make mistakes. Don't take yourself too seriously, you know, 544 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,480 because there is grace to be had. And as long as you are trusting God in everything you're 545 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,080 doing, even when you make those mistakes, you have the safety net and His grace. And 546 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,360 as long as you're learning something from that, you know, you're going to keep growing. 547 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,680 And yeah, as a high school student, college student, you have so many opportunities to 548 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:18,600 learn so many things. And so really take that opportunity to learn. Lifelong learner, ICS 549 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:25,560 values, right? Keep doing that. And yeah, I think because life lesson for me is don't 550 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,560 be afraid of mistakes. 551 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,560 All right. Thank you very much for that advice. And so important to think about not being 552 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,780 afraid to fail. And when we do make mistakes, we can get up from that and keep moving forward. 553 00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:44,640 So purpose is important, especially when starting something new. Know why you're doing it and 554 00:47:44,640 --> 00:48:01,040 tell others the purpose as well. Get out there and try, but know your purpose first. 555 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,960 As we end this episode, it's good to reflect on why we do things. Our actions and activities 556 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,400 are what we do. Our methods and strategies are how we do it. And most importantly, the 557 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:17,040 purpose and reason is why we do it. Stay tuned for our next episode as we talk to a panel 558 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,800 of college reps who have some insider advice and experience on higher education. And as 559 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,900 always, this podcast will not be possible without the hard work and support of our international 560 00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:29,280 student production team. 561 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,960 All music and sound effects are courtesy of pixabay.com, a vibrant community of creatives 562 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,280 sharing copyright free images, videos and music. And we are signing off until next time. 563 00:48:39,280 --> 00:49:04,480 We are Students Incorporated, because your voice matters.