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Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast exploring the topics of business, education,

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technology and design.

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I'm your host, Mr. Jason.

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Join me weekly as my team and I produce content that's informative, positive, fun and uplifting.

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Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders and inspirational stories

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with an international flavor.

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This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok.

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Hello, I'm Mr. Jason.

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I'll be your host today.

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I'm joined by my co-host, Premi and Rebecca.

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We also welcome Mr. Christopher to this episode as our guest musician.

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This episode has been titled Music is Life and we're excited to dive into the life and

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journey of a musician along with some music fun at the end.

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So stay tuned as we get into our first segment right after we get our quote of the day and

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hear some headline music news.

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Our quote of the day comes from Edward Bower Leighton.

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He's quoted as saying, Music once admitted to the soul becomes a sort of spirit and never

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dies.

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This quote communicates that music has the power to deeply affect our emotions and can

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create lasting memories.

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It has the ability to transcend time and connect us to our past, present and future selves.

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When we listen to music, we invite a piece of the artist's soul into our own, creating

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a connection that resonates long after the music stops playing.

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And that's our quote of the day.

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A significant event that happened early last month was the 2024 Grammys, where most of

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the attention was directed towards Taylor Swift winning the Best Album Award for her

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Midnights.

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Additionally, most of the major awards were won by a woman, with Billie Eilish's What

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Was I Made For from the Barbie Movie winning the Best Sound of the Year Award.

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While there were many outcries during the event overall, the event went smoothly without

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any major disturbances except maybe for interest.

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Following the battle that modern songwriters face against the rising use of AI to produce

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music and also copying artists' voice, many prominent music artists such as Nicki Minaj

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and Cardi B have voiced their support of the No AI Fraud Act, which promises artists to

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defend their fundamental human right to their voice and likeness.

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By establishing a federal standard preventing the use of AI to copy voices and likeness

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of artists without consent.

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Coming all the way from Japan, the four-man band Rat Whimps, which has produced a variety

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of well-received music from movies such as Your Name and Weathering With You, will be

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performing at UOB Live at M'sphere on May 23 as part of their 2024 tour, The Way You

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Yawn and A Cry of Peace, which will cover seven different Asian countries.

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The event went on sale last week, so if you're interested, hurry up and snag a spot.

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Thank you for the quote and the news.

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To kick us off in this first segment, we'll get some insight into Mr. Christopher's journey

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into music.

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Also make sure you stick around for our second segment as you'll have a chance to enter

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our Guess That Song contest.

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Now let's get into our first segment.

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Premi will start us off with our first question.

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Hello and welcome to the show.

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Thanks for bringing your guitar to the studio as well.

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To get us started, could you please introduce yourself and tell us what you are doing?

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Hi.

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Thanks for having me.

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My name is Mr. Christopher.

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I'm a middle school art teacher here at ICS.

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This is my second year.

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I teach middle school art and I also help out with student ministries and mentor the

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student worship band for middle school.

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I play music on the side, so earlier this year I started a band, so we've been playing

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some gigs around Bangkok and really having fun with that.

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My free time I really enjoy live music and going to concerts, so I attend a lot of shows

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and concerts and stuff like that.

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Thank you for your self-introduction.

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We're honored to meet you, Mr. Christopher.

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Can you share with us how your journey in music began?

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What were some of your earliest inspirations?

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Sure.

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I've always loved music.

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One of my first memories of music was being back in elementary school.

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We have these UIL competitions and one of the teachers recommended me to go for music

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memory.

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It was like listening to old symphonies and you had to be able to name not only the name

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of the song but also the composer.

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I scored the gold medal in it because I was really able to remember everything.

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Music's always been really important to me.

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It's kind of how I process my own emotions and everything.

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Growing up, I've always been interested.

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I always wanted to learn how to play guitar.

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I took some lessons when I was a kid but it never really stuck.

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But I really started getting into music in middle school and high school and I was playing

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around with friends, trying to play in bands and going to concerts and stuff like that.

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I remember growing up we had cassette tapes and my first cassette tape was the Teenage

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Mutant Ninja Turtles soundtrack.

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And I can still remember some of the songs from that.

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When I was in middle school, I joined band in middle school so I played tuba, trombone

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and baritone all the way through high school.

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Was in marching band and all that fun stuff.

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Did you take music through your high school year?

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I did not and that's one of my biggest regrets.

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As someone who plays music, I learned how to play music but I didn't really learn the

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theory behind it, how to write melody, how to just kind of sit and jam and then just

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kind of figure it out.

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As I've gotten older, I'm starting to pick up those skills and everything but I'm really

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good at reading music and I can even sit down a lot of times and figure out the key and

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start playing along.

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But sitting down and trying to write my own melody and stuff like that tends to be the

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bigger challenge for me.

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So you have perfect pitch, right?

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I don't know if I would say perfect but there was one time I was in a store and I was just

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humming along to the song and a lady said, oh you've got perfect pitch and I was like,

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didn't realize that but thank you.

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You definitely aced the course.

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But funny thing is I love to sing now but I did not know that I knew how to sing until

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probably I was I think 21 or so.

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I happened to, I was going to a concert and we were waiting for the band and they had

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a karaoke room and I'd never done karaoke before and they were like, just try it.

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Was that how you figured out?

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That's how I figured it out.

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That's crazy.

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So one of my big regrets is when I was in high school, my favorite musical of all time

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is Little Shop of Horrors.

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It was a movie from the 80s with Rick Moranis and we did that my senior year of high school

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and I wanted to try out for the Dennis part but I did not have confidence and I was like

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so shy.

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So I ended up doing stage manager and it was great but I always regret it.

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And I could have been a great dentist if I'd known that I could sing.

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Crazy how you figured out though how you found out.

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That is one story.

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And we also understand that you're also an art teacher.

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How does your work as an art teacher influence your creative process in music or vice versa?

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I think for me any art and I try to connect this with my students as well is that art

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has to mean something, it has to reflect some part of your life or some part of your experience

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to make it meaningful.

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The best art in my opinion connects to the life of an artist.

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Me as an artist if I sit down and I try to work on a piece of art and I'm not connected

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to it emotionally in some way then I will never finish.

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I have a portfolio of probably a hundred different artworks that I've started and only halfway

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finish because I just had no connection to it.

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But then when I am connected to it there are those times where I can just sit down and

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hours will go by as I'm working on it.

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I did a portrait last year and I was just so intrigued of like the curve of this person's

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ear and the flow of the hair and because that person was really meaningful to me it made

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the artwork that much more important to finish.

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So I think the same thing with music.

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If I don't connect to the music in some way then I lose interest and I get bored and when

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I do connect to something it becomes really meaningful and really valuable.

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That's insightful and I've always admired those who are teachers and can create masterpieces.

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Could you tell us about any artists or bands that have helped influence your musical style?

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Sure the band I play in now we play kind of a mix of what I call Texas indie folk and

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country since I come from Texas I come from a city called Houston which is a big city.

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I grew up with country music but when I was in high school I got really into punk rock

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and a lot of rock bands and stuff like that going into more heavy metal type stuff.

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Around the early 2000s it was kind of when a lot of indie rock first kind of started

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hitting and that completely changed my musical tastes.

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So I have like a wide variety of things that I really enjoy but I would say these days

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mostly lean towards indie folk and country.

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Some of the greats like George Strait who's known as the king of country from Texas Willie

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Nelson who I've seen many times in concert.

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He's 91 this year I think and still putting on concerts which is awesome.

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My favorite band of all time is a band called Tool which I've seen many times.

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I used to love a band called 311.

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There was around 2004 is probably when I was reflect is like my favorite year for music

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which is kind of that indie explosion and there was a label called Saddle Creek that

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had a lot of my favorite bands at the time.

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Bands called Rhylo Kiley, Bright Eyes but those were super important to me.

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Things like Death Cab for Cutie, Postal Service because it's not just the instrumentation

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but it's the words behind it and it was a really meaningful time for me so that influences

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a lot of my music as well I think.

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That's a lot of genres.

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Here's a follow up question.

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Are there specific ways you incorporate that into your own music?

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So like I said I like to play music that I connect to so I learn to not only play in

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a certain style or technique but I learn kind of the structure and progressions and really

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how to build dynamics and I think dynamics is one of the things you really have to learn

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as a musician or as an artist.

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It's not just the words, it's not just the melody but how are you kind of creating an

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experience for somebody.

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Like if you're saying words that are you know really sad and you're trying to convey a sad

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emotion then how is the music building towards that emotion?

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How are you drawing the listener in to be able to experience the same thing that you're

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trying to say?

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I always try to tell my students when they're finishing their artwork that you know you

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as an artist you put your artwork out there and you have your experiences, you have your

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worldview, you have your understanding of what your art piece is but then somebody that

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is not you is going to come and look at it and they're going to come with their own experiences

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and their own worldview and their own thoughts about life and they might have a completely

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different interpretation of the art or the piece and that's part of the fun of art and

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music is you can connect to it in different ways and something that is very meaningful

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to me in one way might be completely meaningful to someone else in a different way and I think

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music kind of transcends that idea as well.

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I love that, that's really true though with all the interpretations as a writer myself

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I hear this a lot and I get this a lot too with writers when I'm writing my own pieces

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and then versus how other people see that work and then how they interpret it and I

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think there's a long-standing question I love to ask whenever I'm analyzing literature.

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One of the questions that comes up is like so what is the meaning behind the piece?

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Is it the meaning that the author intended for the piece or is it the meaning that readers

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take away from it and like what is valid or like what should be the way it is?

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Where does the line intersect and is there like a right meaning or right interpretation?

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Right or wrong, that's a tough balance on that one.

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I kind of feel like any character that's out there kind of carries a piece of the author

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within some ways because it is an author that's kind of coming up with their thoughts and

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their behaviors and their ideas but sometimes you know you're creating this thing and then

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you put it out and when you put it out you do have to let it go and you have to let it

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breathe and become its own thing so I don't think I could give you like a black or white

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answer on that.

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It is not black and white.

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It's kind of all mixed in.

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Sometimes it is nice to be able to separate the art from the artist.

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Yeah that for sure.

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Yeah I hear that too a lot.

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There are a lot of songs that I like that I probably would not like the person who made

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them very much so.

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Yeah that makes sense.

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Okay next question is could you describe your creative process?

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How do you go from an initial idea to a finished song and what challenges do you face along

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the way?

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I usually start with the words.

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I was a big writer in my younger days so I used to love writing poetry and to me writing

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lyrics is kind of like writing poetry and many times I get inspiration that just kind

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of comes from I'm a big people watcher and I love that you know interactions and stuff

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and something might happen or I might rhyme something and then I try to sit down and write

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it down or keep notes but then I'm like if I don't have anything to write it down I'll

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be like oh I'm gonna really remember this one I usually forget which is kind of sad

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but I like to start with the words and I feel like that's kind of the easiest part for me

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is being able to figure out you know the stanzas or the verses and the chorus.

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The challenge for me I think is really trying to figure out the melody.

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I might be able to figure out like a chord structure but trying to come up with a really

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really nice doesn't have to be intricate but nice flowing melody to a song that's trying

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to capture that emotion or capture that feeling that I'm trying to go for becomes the challenge.

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I might start with like a chord progression and then I'll try to like either hum or sing

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a melody on top of that chord progression and I tend to record myself so I have a lot

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of these recordings of myself where it's just playing guitar and I'm you know on top of

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the guitar so yeah and then later you kind of have to take those things and it's almost

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like a puzzle putting them together and trying to get them to fit and that's probably the

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most challenging part is trying to you know take that idea with the emotion and the melody

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and trying to mix it all.

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Wow that's a lot of work whenever you imagine the amount of work that goes into each song.

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Can you share a memorable live performance experience you've had?

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I'm a big concert person so I love going to concerts and I have gone to this music festival

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called Coachella California which is probably super famous.

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I went to Coachella eight times but the first time I went was 2004 which I was talking about

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kind of my indie era you know and at that time was the first like super huge music festival

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we did a road trip like I live in Houston which is about 22 hour drive from LA so we

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did a road trip and drove from Houston to the desert of California we camped in the

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desert and went to the festival for a few days and at the time was the lineup was probably

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the most amazing lineup I had ever seen at the time.

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Headline the first night, the Cure headline the second night and pretty much every indie

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band at that time that I had wanted to see was there and it was just one of those moments

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that like just really impacted man like I really love this this moment right here make

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you feel alive you know and I have Coachella kind of kind of now has become this really

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over commercialized thing and they used to get really you know interesting artists or

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reunions like I think that was I saw a band called the Pixies who hadn't had a show in

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maybe 15 years and they reunited for that.

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When I saw Radiohead they're notorious for hating their song creep because it got so

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so famous so they just never play it live and they actually played it live there and

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Tom York just completely wrecked the song it was it was hilarious you know and then

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the Cure it's like one of them you know most well-known bands of all time did a greatest

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hit set where they played some songs that they hadn't played live in 20 years and it's

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just like those special moments you know being able to to be there for that and all the different

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times I went to Coachella I had experiences like that like seeing Prince or going to see

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Daft Punk and it was the first time that they did the pyramid or the flaming lips and flaming

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lips are known for you know putting the singer in this big inflatable ball but it was like

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the first time they tried it was like I was there at that at that moment and you get to

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meet all these cool celebrities and stuff a funny story about meeting Danny DeVito if

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you ever have time we'll tell you about that.

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Will you bring a notebook and a pen with you when you go to concert or like music shows?

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Actually I used to so I kept I keep all my concert tickets so especially when I was younger

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I used to have to go to Ticketmaster to buy them and you got ticket stubs now it's just

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kind of like an email confirmation so it's not as cool you know but I have a couple photo

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albums that have all the concerts I went to all the way from I think 1996 up to present

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day and had some cool experiences where I got to meet a lot of the musicians I have

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a lot of autographs and I met Chris Martin of Coldplay you know one time backstage but

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actually when I first started going to big shows like that like I have a notebook that

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I took to Coachella where I like wrote down stuff that I wanted to remember and sometimes

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I forget it so it's nice to go back and look at it and be like I remember this moment I

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remember that you know which is really cool.

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That's really sweet that must be like a whole bunch of pages of concert tickets.

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I mean that's a big storage box.

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I kept all my concert t-shirts too so I have some concert t-shirts that go all the way

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back to the 90s.

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That's crazy.

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Okay now for our final question in this first segment looking ahead do you have any upcoming

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projects or goals that you're excited about?

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Yeah actually last year I ended up starting a band here in Bangkok and it was one of those

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things where I think I was just feeling kind of down and just a little bit lonely where

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like we just kind of moved to Bangkok and I wasn't really connecting and finding friends

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and I was like I'm just gonna like always wanted to do a band so I'm just gonna do it

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and I put out some feelers on Facebook like hey this is this is what I'm looking for anybody

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interested in getting together and playing and then had a handful of guys that reached

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out and we ended up meeting together and playing and really connected so we ended up starting

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a band and I happened to be at a show at a place called Speaker Box.

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I went to see this Thai band called Wicked Lights which is kind of like a Thai version

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of Bon Iver but I was really excited to see them and I just happened to talk to the owner

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and it was right when I kind of started the band at the time only had like one committed

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person and I was telling the owner about it and he's like well if you ever want to play

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here you know let me know and I was like really and I was like I took that as a sign of let's

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just do it you know so kind of stepped out and in faith and we just had a concert this

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last weekend which was kind of our biggest crowd to date I think is about 40 people that

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was there and it was super fun.

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So the band's called Lone Star Lament we play a mix of Texas indie folk and country.

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Right now we're just kind of playing cover songs so we're kind of trying to learn to

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jell as a band but we're going to start working on some original music and stuff like that

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but we tend to play about one gig a month it's about what everybody can commit to but

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it's just been really fun to just get out and play you know.

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I've had so many experiences being like in the crowd and like man I wish I could be on

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stage and now it's kind of like making that dream come true a little bit so.

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Okay there you have it that's the end of segment one and yes we'll be right back after this

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short PSA.

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Listen up people the concert season is upon us here in Bangkok there have been some big

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names already like K-Pop NCT 127, Coldplay, Ed Sheeran, Novo Amor, Rod Stewart and others.

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Don't worry if you've already missed these groups here's a list of upcoming shows in

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March.

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Wave to Earth at Union Hall in Bangkok on March 9th, the famous Tom Jones will be performing

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at M-Sphere March 14th and if you're into head-banging heavy metal Slash will be in

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Bangkok performing on March 15th at Centerpoint Studio.

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And finally on March 30th Bruno Mars will be performing at the National Stadium here

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in Bangkok.

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Get your earplugs and your friends together and go enjoy a concert this month.

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We are back with part two and we still have Mr. Christopher in the studio and he's brought

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his guitar.

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To start off this segment we're going to have a little contest not for the podcast team

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but for you our listeners.

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Here's the rules Mr. Christopher will play a few seconds of a popular song in a specific

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genre.

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If you know the song make note of it.

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After he has made it through all the songs we will announce a way for you to respond

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back to us with your answers.

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The first two responders who have the most points correct will win a special prize from

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the Students Incorporated podcast team.

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Here's how we count up the points.

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You get one point for getting the title and artist correct.

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You get a half point if you get one or the other correct.

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There are five regular songs worth one point and one bonus song at the end with two points.

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Let's start.

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Over to you Premi.

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Okay this sounds fun.

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The first song falls into the music genre of classic rock.

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Mr. Christopher are you ready to play a few seconds of our first song?

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Let's do it.

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Anything you want to say before you play this?

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No.

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Alright so let's get started.

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Thank you.

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Hopefully our listeners are up on their classic rock music.

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Okay our next song falls into the country music genre.

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Mr. Christopher we're ready if you are.

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Thank you and a quick message to our listeners if you need to hear the song again just rewind

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and replay.

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Easy.

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Okay our next song falls into the genre category of hard rock or rock and roll.

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Go ahead and play the next song Mr. Christopher.

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We're on to our next song.

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The next song is the genre of pop music.

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Mr. Christopher go ahead and play when you're ready.

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That was fun thank you.

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And our next song genre is indie.

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Typically indie music is produced and released independently from a commercial record label.

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Mr. Christopher go ahead when you're ready.

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Thank you our last song of this contest is our bonus song and it's worth two points.

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No hints on this one.

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Mr. Christopher go ahead and play our bonus song when you're ready.

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Now that we have made it through all our songs here is how you can send in your answers to

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us.

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So please send us an email with your answers to studentsincorporated at gmail.com.

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Make sure you include your name.

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Again send your answers to studentsincorporated at gmail.com.

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That's s-t-u-d-e-n-t-s-i-n-c-p-o-d-c-a-s-t at gmail.com.

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Now moving on we've asked Mr. Christopher to help us in this last segment with some

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music.

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Anything you'd like to share about this song before you play it?

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So one of the big ideas of my band is that we play music that has a tinge of sadness

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to it.

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Not in like a boring way or a melancholy way but in kind of the way of where we think of

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misery brings us together.

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You know brings us together to kind of celebrate the things that are kind of sad in life.

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So it doesn't necessarily mean that when something's sad it's just like depressing and really just

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down right.

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There are so many songs you can think about that have fun or like a positive message but

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just has that tinge of sadness to it.

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It's kind of based off of a movie that I used to love called High Fidelity that had John

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Cusack and Jack Black in it.

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And one of the quotes from the movie he's talking a little bit about is depression and

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he says,

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Do I listen to pop music because I'm depressed?

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Or am I depressed because I listen to pop music?

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Or is it like one of those cycle things?

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So the idea behind the band is to celebrate those songs because everybody I think can

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figure out a song.

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So this song is like actually when you think about it quite a happy song but it's actually

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one of those things that takes something that's really happy and really beautiful but it's

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also got a tinge of sadness to it.

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It's kind of you guys seen the movie Up?

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I will never forget watching the first five minutes of Up and then just crying my eyes

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out because it's the story of that love story and where the old guy, his wife passes away

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at the end.

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So this song is kind of about that where it's a beautiful marriage and everything but how

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much time do we have together?

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Maybe 40 years, something like that.

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Eventually one of us is going to have to live life alone.

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So beautiful song but has that kind of tinge of sadness to it.

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So it's called If We Were Vampires by Jason Isbell.

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Stop the lawn flow and dress a chore, old light coming off of your skin.

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The fragile heart you've protected for so long.

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Oh the mercy in your sense of right and wrong.

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Snatch your hair and search it slow in the dark.

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Hold your nails, leave in love's watermark.

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It's not the way you talk beyond the rules.

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Your questions like corrections to the truth.

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It's knowing that this can't go on forever.

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Like me one of us will have to spend some days alone.

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Maybe we'll get 40 years together, one day I'll be gone, one day you'll be gone.

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If we were vampires and death was a joke.

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We'd go out on the sidewalk and the smoke.

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And laugh it all to love us in their plans.

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I wouldn't feel the need to hold your hand.

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Baby time running out is a gift.

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I work hard to the end of my shift.

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And give you every second I can find.

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I wouldn't be the one who's left behind.

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It's knowing that this can't go on forever.

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Like me one of us will have to spend some days alone.

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Maybe we'll get 40 years together, one day I'll be gone, one day you'll be gone.

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It's knowing that this can't go on forever.

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Like me one of us will have to spend some days alone.

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Maybe we'll get 40 years together, one day I'll be gone, one day you'll be gone.

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Thank you.

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As we end this episode, Mr. Christopher has reminded us that music can take on a life of its own.

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It's something that has the ability to connect to our hearts and souls.

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It can also connect us together.

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Thanks again for sharing your talents with our audience and for helping remind us all that sometimes

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we just need to stop and listen to the music.

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As always, this podcast would not be possible without the hard work and support of our international student production team.

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All music and sound effects are courtesy of Pixabay.com, a vibrant community of creatives

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sharing copyright free images, videos, and music.

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And we are signing off until next time.

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We are Students Incorporated, because your voice matters.

