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Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast exploring the topics of business, education,

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technology and design.

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I'm your host, Mr. Jason.

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Join me weekly as my team and I produce content that's informative, positive, fun and uplifting.

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Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders and inspirational stories

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with an international flavor.

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This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok.

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In today's episode, we're focusing on the topic of gender equality, its struggles, misconceptions

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and stereotypes, as well as youth activism, what young people can do to spark a change

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and make a difference.

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We'll be diving into topics from intersectional feminism and advocacy, debunking myths and

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shedding light on the role gender still plays in our world.

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I'm joined today by co-presidents of 50 Squared, a United Nations recognized student-led organization

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advocating for women's rights and gender equality.

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My co-hosts for the episode are Tasha, the co-vice president of 50 Squared and Rebecca.

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Before we get into our first segment, let's get to our quote of the day and get some headline

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news.

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Our quote of the day comes from Carlton Fice.

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He said, it's not what you achieve, it's what you overcome.

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That's what defines your career.

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This quote can motivate us when we are faced with challenges in our careers.

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Like me as a student, it reminds us that achievements aren't necessarily the most important factor

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in success.

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What's really important is the path we've taken and the obstacles we overcame.

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Our career is a process of learning and acquiring new skills.

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And the more obstacles we overcome, the more we can learn and the more skills we can acquire.

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And that's our quote of the day.

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And here's some headline news related to our topic today.

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The annual 16 days of activism against gender-based violence is taking place now all around the

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world by members of the International Civil Society.

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It ends on December 10th.

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The theme for this year's activism event is titled Unite!

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Invest to Prevent Violence Against Women and Girls.

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And it focuses on working with organizations and governments in order to allocate budgets

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and time towards working against gender-based violence and particularly violence against

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women.

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Now moving on, an iconic news network named Jezebel shut down on November 9th after 16

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years of covering gender-related issues.

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Over those 16 years, it had gained a large audience among women internationally.

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However, due to an acquisition in 2019 by another company, which resulted in a lack

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of commitment and investment from that parent company, it became unsustainable and was forced

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to shut down.

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During that same time, employees of Jezebel News cited inhumane treatment by its parent

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company.

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This illustrates the struggles that outspoken news networks in certain regions of the world

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faced when they cover such controversial topics like gender-based violence or gender inequalities.

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And finally, the EU's Gender Action Plan, Gap 3, has been extended to the year 2027.

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The plan will continue on its goal of building a more gender-equal world.

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In the three years that the plan has been active, it's contributed to increasing the

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emphasis on gender equality in government and the UN's Sustainable Development Goals.

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This plan also supports increased funding for gender-related issues and supports gender

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equality among organizations.

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It's expected to keep helping bridge the gap between both genders throughout 131 countries

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it's been implemented within.

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And that ends our headline news.

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Now let's get into our first segment.

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I'm joined by co-host Rebecca and a guest co-host Tasha, who is the co-vice president

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of 50 Squared.

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We welcome the co-presidents of this organization, DREAM, and our very own Premi.

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We'll be introducing what 50 Squared is and what it strives to do, as well as discussing

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what gender equality looked like yesterday, looks like today, and what gender equality

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may look like tomorrow.

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Rebecca will get us started with our first question.

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Thank you for joining our show today.

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Would you please introduce yourself and tell us about 50 Squared and what your role is?

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Yeah, I'm Premi.

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I'm a junior at ICS here, and I'm a co-president for 50 Squared.

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Hi, my name is DREAM, and I'm in junior year as well, and I'm a co-president for the 50

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Squared club.

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For 50 Squared, it comes from the 50-50 equality we advocate for between men and women, empowering

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both.

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Yeah, with the power of two, and that's where the 50 Squared stems from, like 50 times 50,

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that's 50 Squared for all of you math people out there.

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And we are a UN-recognized organization, and we have some chapters across Thailand and

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internationally.

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Thank you.

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What are some actions 50 Squared has taken in the past, and what are some plans 50 Squared

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has for the future?

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Okay, yeah, backtracking a little bit.

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So back in 2018, our founder, Amy Jane, who is an ICS alumni, she founded 50 Squared,

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and 50 Squared started off as a small school club.

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But throughout the years, we've partnered with many Thai nonprofit organizations, arranging

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bake sales, fundraisers, speaker series, and we've also expanded our horizons and then

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having new chapters in branches nationally across Thailand and also internationally in

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India and Jordan as well.

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And of course, in 2020, we received letter in mail from United Nations in recognition

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applauding our efforts and the organization itself.

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And of course, later in 2020, when COVID-19 hit, our founders had graduated already, and

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their organization was put on pause.

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And in 2023, we have brought 50 Squared back to ICS and have connected with Amy.

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And yeah, for future plans, we as of right now started fundraising for a future project

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in collaboration with HerICS, which is a period destigmatization project.

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And we were connecting with previous chapters from 2020, reaching out to new leaders with

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the same dreams and hopes and fighting for the same values.

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What are some challenges you faced with the processes you had to go through to bring 50

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Squared to life?

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You can talk about anything from planning, launching, organizing, and recruitment.

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I think the thing with 50 Squared is a lot of the, or I suppose, I guess in Thailand

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with a lot of the culture, societal values surrounding it, is that, and especially considering

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our age as young people, I think it's a little, it's harder to make progress or to make change.

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And in terms of like, there's like a lot of stigma surrounding like the idea of gender quality as well,

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or like stigma around advocacy in general and like raising voices and then bringing

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conversations that might not be like out of day-to-day conversations and making a change.

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And it is always, really always hard to start something new, like the first step, I feel

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like is always definitely really hard.

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I think definitely I agree with everything that Premi has said, and of course there's

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a lot of preconceived ideas about feminism as well, especially in our society as Premi mentioned.

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And a lot of people just don't really think that inequality between men and women really

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exists anymore in 21st century.

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There's a lot of inequality that you can find in between the, you know, in our society.

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And when you are ignorant about the problems that we're facing, it's a lot harder to gain

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support from, you know, the student body or even communicating through our purpose and

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mission and values, because a lot of people will just, you know, devalue it and it's not

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going to be like really important.

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For our listeners who might not be as familiar with the term feminism or gender equality,

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could you talk a little about what those terms mean?

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Terms throughout their feminism.

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I think just the word feminism alone can be, it has taken a lot of shape and a lot of meanings

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and connotations for different groups of people.

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And if you like, throughout all of that, the original meaning or the meaning or the intended

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purpose for the feminist movement has like changed or shifted or not, or just being perceived

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as something that isn't.

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So feminism, as defined by the Oxford Dictionary, is the advocacy of women's rights on the

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basis of the equality of the sexes.

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And that is essentially what gender equality is trying to achieve, the mission to advocate

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for the equality of all sexes in terms of like equal access to opportunities and also

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equal social, economic, and political rights as well.

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And I think building onto like what we said earlier about like people not fully understanding

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or having preconceived ideas about the term feminist or feminism, I think one broader

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term that can be used in more detail is intersectional feminism.

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So intersectional feminism is defined as, like it centers the voices of those experiencing

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overlapping oppression, like overlapping forms of oppression, because there are many inequalities

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that exist, many marginalized communities, and you would have to consider all forms and

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all the ways that marginalized communities are marginalized and underrepresented.

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And through that, then consider gender equality for all.

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And especially throughout history as well, when we look at the suffragists from the 19th

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century, a lot of the feminist movement was carried out by white women.

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And for this reason, many people say that this also carries through in the modern feminist

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movement with much of the vision and mission being directly advantageous or targeting specific

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subdivisions of women, as well as, you know, overshadowing the struggles of women of colors,

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LGBTQ women, or even women of the other minority groups face, or, you know, aka white feminism.

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Well, overall, intersectional feminism strives to be more inclusive for everyone.

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And for the 50 Square Mission, we really just want to bring attention to the opportunity

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that men and women face, and, you know, how different those opportunities can be between

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those two groups of people, and we want to bring it to the balance between those groups

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of people.

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That's our main mission.

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And yeah, we want to make it clear.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Absolutely what you said about, like, historically, how feminism is represented or just, like,

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treated towards, like, the movement itself is maybe, like, for women who are not women

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of color, for instance.

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And so I think definitely a term that many feminists use is now intersectional feminist

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feminism, to, like, maybe, like, show the divide between maybe radical feminists who

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are advocating for women's rights, but, like, to the, to excluding men's rights, but also,

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so instead, instead, so not to be mixed up with radical feminism, to have intersectional

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feminism instead to be, like, we said, striving to be more inclusive for everyone.

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For sure, I absolutely agree.

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Adding on to that, when tracing back to centuries prior, our world has come a long way since

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the days women did not have the right to vote, or when the only world society deemed acceptable

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for women was a domestic caretaker.

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However, contrary to what might, many might believe, we still have a long way to go before

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we achieve gender equality.

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Could you talk about some of the struggles that women still face today?

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So since a lot of people really assume that no inequality exists between men and women,

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it is quite hard for people to see what women still go through that still isn't fair and

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balanced, of course.

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I think, well, personally, I think ignorance is the main problem here.

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And by ignoring what's, you know, what's the problem, what's the issues, it doesn't

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make the issues go away, even though it's like, you know, the phrase called ignorance

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is a bliss, even though it's not true for women, which is the main focus for today.

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And I'm feeling that it doesn't have anything to do with me as well.

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And according to a civil rights advocate, Kimberly Crenshaw, if you see inequality as

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a damn problem or unfortunate other problem, and that is a problem itself, because it's

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not going to solve if you do not take a collective actions between people of all genders, sexes,

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or even ethnic cities.

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It's not going to solve the problem.

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It won't make it go away.

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It's just going to make it lie dormant, but it's going to still affect other people.

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And okay, if we were going to talk more about the existing struggles today that people might

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sometimes look over and think that gender equality is achieved, here are some struggles

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that highlight the opposite of that statement.

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So first, there's the gender pay gap.

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We can get more into this later as well with statistics.

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A woman makes 82 cents for every dollar a man makes, and that's in the US.

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So if we were going to look worldwide, I'm sure the number would go down as well.

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So I think like putting things into perspective, that's the gender pay gap.

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And talking more about careers or being in the workforce, genders is proportioned in

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male dominated fields like STEM and others.

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So like science, technology, engineering, mathematics, computer science, business, and

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finance, and so many more.

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There are double standards that exist within just careers or the feeling that as a woman,

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you can't appear too strong, so you can't be bossy, be aggressive, be unkind, but then

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you can't appear too weak because then you'll be emotional and ignorant and incapable, and

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then you'll get taken advantage of.

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So it's really interesting the labels that society put on women, especially in the workforce

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or in like careers and work field.

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Circling back to the idea of double standards, like especially when considering for promotion

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or just receiving like high level entry jobs, or the idea that you need to, as a woman,

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you need to work so much more harder, you need to work so much harder to be seen, to

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be seen and held in the same regard of that as a man.

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And definitely expectations, but I think expectations is just like gender.

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That is a whole, that's the social construct, right?

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Like expectations are imposed upon every gender and every person.

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Yeah, but I think how gender is a social construct, that is definitely a whole other conversation

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altogether.

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And period stigmatization still exists everywhere.

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And I also think that has a lot to do with culture as well, but definitely exists.

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Like how you need to whisper like, hi, hey, sorry, do you have a pad?

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I forgot, I didn't bring any today.

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Things like that.

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Like you need to whisper and you can't say it aloud.

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But when I was growing up, I was taught that if I had a pad, I needed to hide it, even

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though it period is a natural cycle for women that women have to go through.

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It is nothing to be ashamed of, but then culturally and then the stigma.

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So that's a whole other thing together.

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And then sexual harassment as well, cat calls and many other crimes are inflicted upon women,

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I think are just some of the few examples of the struggles of the struggles that women

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face today and how gender inequality, even though we have come a long way, but we still

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believe that we still have a long way to go before gender equality.

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I think many people tend to overrule the existing gender discrepancies today, especially in

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comparison with the way history has treated women.

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Building on to that, what would you say are common stereotypes when it comes to the concept

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of gender equality and the overarching feminist movement itself?

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I think the main problem is that the feminist or the gender equality movement is only for

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women.

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And that's not true because feminism strives for equality between everyone, not just women,

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men and other people too.

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And for the first topic is toxic masculinity.

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And it's tying back to the idea of expectations society sets for each gender.

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While men are supposed to be more strong, tougher, you can't cry in front of other people,

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you can't really show emotions and it's really affect other people in your life, especially

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the people you care about.

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So it's really toxic.

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And to be stuck in a really toxic masculinity ways of life, it can really affect your mental

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health as well.

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And it can lead to depression and commit more likely to commit suicide.

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While statistically, men are about four times more likely to commit suicide than women,

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which is very telling itself.

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And sticks may surrounding mental health as we mentioned, by not really talking about

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your feelings, it can make things harder for you because it's just in your head and you're

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not talking, letting it all out.

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And the second thing, I think it's really prominent in our movement in feminism, which

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is feminists are men haters, which is not true.

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We love men.

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And don't let me get starting on that.

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Many believe that identifying as a feminist means that you hate men or you are angry at

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men, which is no.

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Three no, big no, no, no, no.

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First group is radical feminists do exist, but aren't there radical groups in every spectrum,

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every political field?

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And the second thing is the radical field takes up the least space and very little in

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the overall population of feminists, but are the lattice and therefore become stereotypical

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of that group when simply it is not true.

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Feminism by definition has nothing to do with hating men.

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We just want to make it balance with every gender.

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Feminism strives for one thing.

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It's for equal and balance and peace for all gender.

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In reading research recently, it shows that feminists generally feel positive towards

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men.

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And this is a misandry myth.

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Misandry for all the audience that didn't know the meeting.

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Misagony, dislike or contempt towards men.

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Misogyny, dislike or contempt towards women.

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Yeah, absolutely agree.

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I feel like those are some of the most prominent stereotypes that people are assumptions that

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people make about feminism and the feminist movement.

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Just like it's like a hundred percent agree with everything that you just said.

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Like it definitely isn't just for women.

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It's for men to thank you.

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It's for men too and I think also how feminists aren't men-taters.

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I think that message gets confused a lot or it doesn't get across as much.

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And like you said, there are radical feminists out there.

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And I feel like, yeah, like what you said, taking up a small percentage of the feminists

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overall, but taking the most voices up or taking the most space up.

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And then that becomes like, that becomes stereotypical of what people see for feminism.

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But okay, here's also another stereotype is that feminists can't take a joke.

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I think feminists, we definitely can take a joke.

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We do humor.

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That is, we do humor.

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We take jokes.

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But I feel like the thing with jokes is that it can also be seen as microaggressions.

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Marginalizations are belittling comments or things that may or may not be intentional,

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but they are still belittling and invalidating the experiences of marginalized communities.

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And I feel like when a joke is framed that way, it can be insulting.

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It can be offensive and belittling for the efforts of the advocates for gender equality

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and against women's marginalization.

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But the idea or the concept of microaggression definitely extends outside of women's marginalization

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to other minority groups and other marginalized groups.

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And so jokes like go back to the kitchen is not something to be laughed at because as

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long as women's ambitions and contextuality are still placed behind their family and society's

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needs, the cruel reality for women will be as tangible as ever.

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I totally agree.

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These definitely are the preconceived notions many have about the feminist movement, touching

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on one of the struggles being the disproportionate ratio of men and women in the STEM field.

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Could you expand on that a little bit?

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I'm going to speak this from a really personal experience.

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Speaking of if a woman really are interested in a STEM field, she's not going to really

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get recognized as a professional or even really good in STEM.

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And why are you here?

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Why don't you go and major in something else?

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And that's really prominent, especially, well, not saying our school, but I'm saying a lot

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of places in Thailand, in society.

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There's a lot of like belittling STEM women efforts of, you know, like pursuing further

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career in STEM, especially in computer science is one of them.

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It's one of a really prominent subject that a lot of men in that field are not really

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recognizing women's effort in it.

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And there's a lot of like, career jokes as well.

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I think a lot of like STEM related careers, it's a, I think it's leaning more into like

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a masculine side of things.

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So that can be why a lot of people are not really recognizing women efforts into going

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or pursuing further career in STEM, because it's been seen that it's masculine and not

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really fitting for women in general, for women in general as women is seen as feminine.

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And so it's a really hard and really complicated subject to really expand on because it's really

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prominent in, you know, in every day.

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Absolutely.

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And if you like in careers or like, if you look at like certain male dominated fields,

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maybe like STEM business, computer science, all of that, I think just looking at the ratio

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itself is telling there should be about roughly about the same number of women and men in

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the world.

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But the numbers for the ratio for like for such fields are just skyrocketing.

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We'll get into this.

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I'm excited for this list, but we also have a top 10 list for this episode two later.

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So make sure you stick around and listen to that.

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But we talk about all the statistics that I think are very telling in itself.

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And okay, what you said to him about like expectations and like what society deems is

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more masculine.

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I have a riddle.

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I just listened.

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My sister told me that a few days ago, and I think that really stuck with me.

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So if you all know this already, don't say the answer.

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Okay, here it is.

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So there's two people in this riddle, James and a doctor, and they go fishing.

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James is the doctor's son.

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But the doctor isn't James' father, who is the doctor?

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Okay, let's let everyone think.

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What do you think?

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What do you think?

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Um, I really have no idea, to be honest with you.

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Wait, wait, is the doctor is not a human being?

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The doctor is a human being.

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I had some help, but the doctor is a mom.

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That is the correct answer.

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So I feel like that can be seen as like, that's it.

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That's like a very simple example.

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I feel like you can just see it as a riddle and it can be that.

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But I asked today earlier in marketing class for the podcast, we were planning it and

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I gave them this riddle and everyone took quite some minutes before Mr. Jason came with

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the right answer that the doctor was his mother.

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So I think like this just like demonstrates that, like the societal labels that go with

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certain jobs.

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So like people would associate being a doctor as a masculine trait, right, or fishing.

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Fishing is often seen as a masculine activity.

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And so with those two in mind, it's begging the question of why would it take for people

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to take so long to realize that it is his mother.

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I think that alone is very telling in the way society treats careers.

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I think in a family sector as well, when we look into, for example, a father is looking

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after his own child, it's because babysitting, but when a woman is looking after her child,

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it's called, you know, looking after her child.

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All of these terms are really, you know, highlighting the fact that we have a long way to go about

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equalizing and balancing the gender inequality between men and women to put women before

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her family's and societal's need and, you know, her expectations from her family or

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husband or society.

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Otherwise we cannot achieve a really good gender equality movement.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think just this too.

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Say there's a single mother with three kids and you're like, oh, like she must go through

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so much and struggle so much, but then it's more prevalent versus if you see a single

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father with three kids, everyone will be impressed.

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And I feel like the difference of being a single mother or a single father, I think

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just that alone is very telling about what society deems about the acceptable roles that

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women and men should play.

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And even though I feel like another stereotype I think that people perceive the feminist

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movement is that we're trying to get every single woman in the career field and we're

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trying to eliminate the prospect of a woman being like a mother or having a domestic job

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and that is simply not true.

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I think where we're coming from feminism is that advocating for careers so that anyone

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can be whatever they want to be and have equal access to all the opportunities in every career

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field.

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So anyone can be whatever they want to be.

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Yeah, definitely.

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The disproportionate ratio is definitely real and still remains to be one of the many prominent

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struggles gender equality brings about, deterring other women from joining the field or even

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pushing some to leave.

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For anyone who wishes to make a positive impact, how would you suggest for them to take action

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and make a difference in the world?

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I think the main thing is to find what you're passionate about and to fight for it really

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loudly and really just, you know, passionately.

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Yeah, I think it's like the thing is that don't let anyone tell you otherwise that your

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efforts are not really going to help or really not going to make the problem go away.

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I think little efforts building up into big efforts, it's really important to take a step

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by step, baby steps to, you know, build up something small, but it can expand later.

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I think in our school, especially when we're a student as well, by posting a lot of stuff,

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educating people about the things that you want people to get educated at.

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I think it's a really good way to help young people or other people in general to get educated

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and be informed of all the stuff that you want to make change in the world.

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And I think to remind yourself every now and then that there's always struggle, but that's

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why you're doing this itself.

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Remind yourself of the end goal that you want to achieve.

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And if you're not starting to do something right now, when will you start?

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And it's not going to happen if you don't start right now.

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So remind yourself that and keep going and just ignore anyone else who's belittling your

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efforts as an advocator.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I think passion is definitely really important and it definitely does it like whatever your

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passion is advocating for anything that you believe is right.

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I think that alone, that will drive the changes.

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And I like definitely get what you're going with, with like how you say like when you're

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just a student, you're a high school student and you're so, so young and it's the feeling

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that like you're so small and you can't actually make an impact.

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Maybe it's that feeling and also the feeling because society deems it to be that way for

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you.

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And so yeah, definitely remind yourself of the end goal.

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Like for me personally, I have in my notes app, OneNote is specifically dedicated.

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I call it inspiration and then I pull like quotes or articles, statistics, and then books

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that I really love that like I think dedicate to the cause that I'm advocating for.

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And every time that I'm feeling maybe tired or feeling defeated, I go back and I look

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at it and I get inspired again and I remind myself why I'm doing this and why I want to

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do this.

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And definitely dream big.

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I think dream big and you can always start small.

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Like starting small can be just like creating conversations and then safe spaces to have

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them and then having those relationships and finding other like minded people to build

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a community off of I think will be also uplifting and it will definitely make you feel like

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you're not alone in this and that people are also advocating for the same thing.

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I think adding on to that as well, the important thing is that to be a really open-minded person.

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I think there's a lot of people who will not agree with what you're saying or in what you

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believe in.

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But the thing is that human beings don't agree.

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We've seen throughout history that there's a lot of wars going on, there's a lot of conflicts,

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especially right now.

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There's a lot of conflicts going on.

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So I think the thing is that to be really open-minded and to keep in mind that what

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you're fighting for and why are you fighting for this, keep in mind of your goals and dreams

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as Pramani said and to not really be ignorant because I think in like the 21st century,

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you can get educated really easily.

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There's a lot of resources you can research on if you want to know anything at all.

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So I don't think like using an excuse as you're not like know a lot about this stuff

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so you cannot really form an opinion on it.

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Get educated.

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I think that's a really good way to start advocating for people around the world and

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to have a potential to make a change.

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What advice would you give to young people who have the potential to make change in today's

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world?

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How can they start?

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I think anyone, absolutely anyone can change.

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And I think especially with young people, other or society might deem you or might see

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you as incapable.

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But the thing is you were young and you have so much potential in you and there is, there

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are so many changes you can make and so many impacts, long lasting impacts that you can

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make and the differences that you can make.

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So I think definitely starting small.

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Just what Dream said earlier to just get educated, learn more about it, start conversations,

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find like-minded people, maybe start a club, a fundraiser for a cause or do anything.

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Definitely starting small is important.

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And also if we're talking specifically about gender equality as well, 50 Square invites

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students, high school students around the world to start new chapters and join us, join

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our community and expand the reaches and the impact that we can make in today's world.

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Where specifically for our 50 Square club, there's a lot of actions that you guys could

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be a part of.

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And to contribute to, you know, a movement of feminism.

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First of all, there's a take action page on our website, especially with like spreading

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awareness and finding great resources, books, movies, TV shows, blogs, statistics, reports

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or even research studies.

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I think be like in a front line of absorbing news, but not really absorbing everything

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you've seen because you don't know if it's true or not.

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To be, I think I said it earlier, but to be open minded is a key here to, you know, not

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absorb everything that you've seen, but to absorb something that you think it's valuable

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and you think it's credible.

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Yeah.

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Or the sources that you think it's incredible and you have great conversation with the people

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who will not judge you and will, you know, contribute you to like a better conversation

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about this topic that you're passionate about.

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I think that's a really good way to start spreading awareness and start making changes

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in this world.

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And yeah, as like Pramie said, it's you're young, you're not like gonna make that much

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changes, which is not to worry as of this stage right now.

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But I think starting, beginning to do something, that's itself is a really, it's a key here

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to contribute something, to make some efforts into, you know, what you're passionate about.

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Yeah, make a change.

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And with that advice, we end segment one.

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Thank you for the insightful discussion and ways in which we all can be aware of the inequalities

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that still exist.

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We'll be right back with some statistics right after this short announcement.

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Hey everyone, 50 Squared is a United Nations recognized nonprofit organization founded

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back in 2018.

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Through fundraisers, speaker series, collaborations with other non-Thai nonprofit organizations,

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we strive to empower women, raise awareness, and advocate for gender equality for all.

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This year, we're hoping to organize more events, collaborate with more like-minded organizations

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expanding nationally and internationally.

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We're looking to recruit more branches and chapters.

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As of now, we're selling snacks in classrooms to raise funds for future projects to de-stigmatize

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periods.

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Be on the lookout for more events to come.

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Follow us on Instagram at 50 Squared or subscribe to our mailing list on our website 50squared.org.

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We are back with our second segment.

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As we wrap up this discussion, our co-host and guest will be sharing a top 10 list of

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statistics that will hopefully shed some more light on this subject.

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Premi will start us off with number 10.

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Number 10.

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10 Syllables.

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Intimidating.

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Bossy.

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Aggressive.

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Women are 30% more likely to receive feedback for being intimidating, bossy, and aggressive

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when being considered for promotion.

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Number 9.

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19% is the number of bachelor degrees earned by women in 2016.

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What's garrulous is that this number dropped significantly from 27% for women who got the

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same degree back in 1997.

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Number 8.

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82 cents to a dollar is what a woman makes on average in the United States when compared

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to her male counterparts according to the US government accountability office.

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This number drops even further in particular for mothers.

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Number 7.

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17 to 1.

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That's how much male CEOs outnumber female CEOs by.

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Let's put things into perspective.

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The New York Times states that there are more CEOs named David than there are female CEOs.

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Number 6.

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66% or two thirds.

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Women still account for 66% of all adults worldwide who are unable to read, reports

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UNESCO.

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This discrepancy stems from education from a young age.

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Number 5.

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1 fifth.

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That's the percentage women make up in business and finances as executive team members, reports

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a gender equality research from the UK.

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Number 4.

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31 is the ratio of men to women in the fields of computer science and engineering.

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Number 3.

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34% is the percentage representing women in the workforce in the stand fields, research

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by the American Association of University Women, reports.

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Number 2.

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20 September 2014 was when Emma Watson delivered her viral speech as she fought for gender

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equality when she is quoted for having said, if not me, who?

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If not now, when?

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And make your ways for number 1.

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One person is what it takes to spark a change and make a difference.

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Thank you so much for those stats.

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Numbers don't lie.

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The top 10 list does help show us that many societies still have work to do in this area.

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There are roughly an equal number of men and women in the world.

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Inequality still very much exists.

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There is a growing movement among the youth to spark conversations and make a difference,

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advocating for what we believe to be right.

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Dream big dreams and change the world.

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As we end this episode, I'm reminded that many inequalities still exist in today's world

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and that the youth has the ability to make impact and aspire changes.

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Check out 50 Squared online at 50squared.org or follow them on Instagram at 50squared.

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As always, this podcast would not be possible without the hard work and support of our international

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student production team.

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And we are signing off until next time.

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