1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast exploring the topics of business, education, 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,200 technology and design. 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,640 I'm your host, Mr. Jason. 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Join me weekly as my team and I produce content that's informative, positive, fun and uplifting. 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,440 Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders and inspirational stories 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,080 with an international flavor. 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,040 This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,440 Community School of Bangkok. 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:47,400 In today's episode, we welcome a guest named Mr. Sean. 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,640 He's somewhat of a celebrity teacher here at ICS. 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,760 We get to hear some of his story and he'll also be sharing about his new class called 12 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Senior Transition. 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,800 But before we get into our first segment, let's hear our quote of the day and get some 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,240 headline news. 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Our quote of the day comes from Robbie Schell. 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,880 He is quoted to have said, transitions in life can offer opportunities for discovery. 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:16,920 Transitions in life, whether big or small, often presents us with opportunities for self-discovery 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,400 and personal growth. 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,240 These transitional periods can take various forms, such as starting a new job, moving 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,280 to a new city or even going through a major life event. 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:33,440 While transitions can be challenging and accompanied by uncertainty, they also provide us with 22 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:39,800 a chance to explore new aspects of ourselves, learn from our experiences and step outside 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,640 of our comfort zone. 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Our Global News headline reports the education of thousands of Ukrainian students being disrupted 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,120 because of the war in Ukraine. 26 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,280 With schools being hit by Russian missiles, students now have to pursue online or independent 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,280 learning. 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,200 The Ukraine government has been trying to remedy this situation by building classrooms 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,640 into metro stations where it is safer. 30 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,760 However, the damage caused by stress and lack of educational facilities have negatively 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,920 affected around 50% of Ukrainian students' language and mathematical abilities. 32 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:15,040 Onto our Business and Weather news, El Nino, a climate pattern that warms ocean surface 33 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,440 waters and brings hotter air and drier climates inland that changes global weather patterns, 34 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,120 could possibly devastate crop yields in Asia. 35 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Rice, which is the main staple food for much of Asia, has seen an increase in prices over 36 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,160 the past few years due to events such as the war in Ukraine. 37 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,080 However, with a possible decline in rice production because of El Nino, these prices may further 38 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,280 increase due to a decrease in the supply of rice, which impacts lower-income households. 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,280 And finally, easing into our Local Business news headline, Bangsak and Esso, two large 40 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:54,060 energy companies in Thailand have closed a deal in which Bangsak purchased Esso for 22.6 41 00:02:54,060 --> 00:03:02,680 billion baht, expanding its 1,361 gas stations into 2,193 gas stations after the purchase. 42 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Additionally, Esso will also pass its experience in technology over to Bangsak, which will 43 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,280 benefit the company greatly in its future endeavors. 44 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Thank you for our quote in the headline news. 45 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,360 Now let's jump into our first segment with Mr. Sean. 46 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,360 Welcome to the podcast, Mr. Sean. 47 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,900 We're happy you could join us. 48 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,640 Could you start off by telling us a little bit about yourself? 49 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:24,840 Yeah, thanks so much for having me. 50 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Yeah, so I teach ninth grade. 51 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,160 My class is geography, so I get all the ninth graders. 52 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,080 This is my 11th year teaching. 53 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,680 I taught seven years previously in Kenya, and then it's my fourth year here. 54 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Our first question for you is, if your life had a theme song, what would it be? 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,280 I feel like I need to pick something relevant that y'all would know. 56 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,320 What if I went with maybe Antihero by Taylor Swift? 57 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,720 But actually, I can't actually say that. 58 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,320 I think I'm going to pick something that maybe is similar. 59 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,800 I'm going to go with a band that people may or may not know called the Avid Brothers. 60 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:06,120 They have a song called All My Mistakes, and I'd say it's kind of similar to like Antihero, 61 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:13,200 where it's like this idea that I've made all these mistakes, but I don't regret them. 62 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,520 They've helped to lead me to where I am now. 63 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,520 That's really cool. 64 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,720 I know Antihero, so I'll have to check the other one out. 65 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,720 Yeah, you should. 66 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,840 That's all right about Taylor Swift. 67 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,480 I like some of her music too. 68 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Okay, the next question is, what is the best gift you have ever received? 69 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Okay, another tough one. 70 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,000 So I have this one gift that stood out to me when I was in, I think I was in high school, 71 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,840 and I think it was a girl that I was dating, and she knew that my favorite candy was lime 72 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,720 green skittles. 73 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Not the green apple ones, but lime green. 74 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,880 I think it's the best artificial flavor in the world. 75 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,280 She collected for me over months and months every lime green skittle she could come up 76 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,000 with, and she gave me a bag of like 500 lime green skittles. 77 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,900 Okay, and our next question for you is, would you rather have a personal chef or a personal 78 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:04,240 trainer and why? 79 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Yeah, I think I've actually thought about this a lot before because I think both would 80 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,000 be amazing. 81 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,680 I think that I am like enjoy working out enough on my own and like motivated enough to do 82 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,320 that on my own and know a little bit about it that I feel like I can do an okay job of 83 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,320 that. 84 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,640 But like in terms of cooking, I feel like I would get more out of having a personal chef 85 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,640 who is making me like good food, healthy food. 86 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,680 And I like actually would still love to help out with this. 87 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Like I want to be there and like cut stuff and be a part of the cooking process, but 88 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,960 have them like plan out really healthy meal. 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,820 Alright, so we got one more kind of lighthearted question. 90 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:45,560 If you wrote an autobiography, what would be the title? 91 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,040 Or if someone else wrote the autobiography, what would be the title? 92 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,000 I feel like that's a tricky question. 93 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,380 I actually feel like I would, I'm going to kind of rebel against this question. 94 00:05:56,380 --> 00:06:01,260 Like had being well known enough that I was there was a biography about me or I was writing 95 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:06,140 a biography about myself, like to be that famous sounds terrible to me. 96 00:06:06,140 --> 00:06:08,960 So I like rebel against ever being that well known. 97 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Like to, I just would hate to walk around and have people knowing me everywhere. 98 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,060 So I just, I feel like it's my own journal and I just keep it for myself and nobody else 99 00:06:19,060 --> 00:06:20,060 ever gets to. 100 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:21,240 Yeah, that's really valid. 101 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,240 I feel that. 102 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,160 Alright, and now jumping to one of the classes you teach, we heard your geography class includes 103 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,240 the Cousine Project. 104 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Can you tell us a little bit more about that? 105 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Yeah. 106 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,240 So in class, one of the things that I need to do with my students is like a research 107 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,240 component. 108 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,080 So I kind of was thinking about like, okay, if we have to research something, what, how 109 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,440 can I make this as fun as possible or maybe the least painful as possible? 110 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,620 And I figured we all like food. 111 00:06:47,620 --> 00:06:52,800 And so what we do is each student will pick a country and they will do research on the 112 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,040 food from that country, the cuisine from that country and how it's impacted by geography, 113 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:03,640 whether it be the physical components of geography or the culture of that, of that country. 114 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,040 And so they'll research that, write a paper on it. 115 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:13,720 But then every person will make a dish from that country and we'll have like this big 116 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,840 international food day. 117 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,240 So it's like a big celebration of ending that research unit and we get to eat a lot 118 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,240 of really good food. 119 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,240 It is so much fun. 120 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,040 I remember when I was back in ninth grade, it was a lot of fun. 121 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,320 And now I think I did Portugal and Portuguese egg tarts. 122 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,320 They were good. 123 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,600 I think it was my, the top point to my cooking. 124 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,760 We can say that. 125 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,760 And for the question that I'm sure everyone across all the grades have been dying to hear 126 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,720 to know the answer to what was your favorite dish from all the years the students have 127 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,800 done this. 128 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,520 It's so hard because every year it's just like there's so many that are good. 129 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,000 I do feel like a couple of years ago, Magnus made like these Cubanos. 130 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,120 I was, he was in my block. 131 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,400 I remember they were really good. 132 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,720 So that year there was like somebody, I forget who it was, but they made like a borscht, 133 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,000 it's like a Russian dish that was really good. 134 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 But maybe the one that stands out to me through all my years was back in Kenya. 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,320 I had a student who brought in like a full out like cheese fondue. 136 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,640 Oh wow. 137 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,640 I felt so fancy. 138 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Like it was really, really good. 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,400 I'm feeling kind of hungry right now. 140 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,680 I love cheese fondue. 141 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,020 All right. 142 00:08:21,020 --> 00:08:27,220 So the last question of this segment is what's one of your favorite memories from your teaching 143 00:08:27,220 --> 00:08:29,240 career so far? 144 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,720 There's something that I remember. 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Yeah, it was maybe like my fourth or fifth year teaching in Kenya. 146 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,040 And I remember going to a play. 147 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,600 I think that it was like the student play. 148 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,960 I think they were in the musical actually. 149 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,580 They were doing the whiz. 150 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:46,440 And I remember there being this like dance scene and there was like 40 or 50 students 151 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,840 all out like dancing on the stage at one time. 152 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,520 And I remember just having this sense of like overwhelming pride. 153 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,720 I was like, I know all of those students and I just, it was so much fun. 154 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,400 I just remember like my heart welling up with pride and it was so cool to see. 155 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,880 And I think it was just one of those moments where it was just like, I love what I do. 156 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,440 I love that I get to know these students and see that they're doing that. 157 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,640 And it makes me excited because this is my fourth year now teaching here. 158 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,120 And so now like because I teach all the freshmen, I really know like most of the students now. 159 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,800 And so I'm like really excited for sporting events and going to the play this year and 160 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,120 just getting to be like, oh, I know like almost all of these students and get to have that 161 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,440 experience here as well. 162 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,960 Yeah, for sure. 163 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,840 That's really heartwarming. 164 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,200 And with that, we'll be right back after a short announcement. 165 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,800 One, two, three, four. 166 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Hey students, I have good news for you today. 167 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,920 We have no school tomorrow. 168 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,780 No school tomorrow means we get a day off to relax and have fun. 169 00:09:44,780 --> 00:09:49,080 You can sleep until noon and watch sports on TV as long as you want. 170 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaking of sport, our school varsity volleyball team is having lots of games next week. 171 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,400 I can't wait to support our team and cheer them on. 172 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Enjoy your day off. 173 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:07,060 We'll see you soon. 174 00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:09,560 We are back with part two with Mr. Sean. 175 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:14,240 We'll be diving into some of his teacher journey as well as finding out details about a new 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,600 class called senior transition. 177 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,000 Okay, our first question is how did you get into the career of teaching and what led you 178 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,760 into the subject of geography? 179 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,640 I was one of those students who went to college and had no idea what I wanted to do. 180 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,680 Just felt so uncertain about what the future held for me. 181 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:34,680 So I just happened. 182 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,640 I had a thing in college called work study. 183 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,560 So you just could get a job on campus. 184 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,480 And so where I went to school, I got a job at an elementary school. 185 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,920 It was like a lab school on campus for kids with like really minor learning disabilities. 186 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:47,920 And I got the job. 187 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,500 I was in charge of lunch and recess. 188 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:55,040 But that experience of being at that school while I was like my freshman and sophomore 189 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,840 year of college, the initial thing that really like drew me to teaching was watching the 190 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,200 teachers and kind of their off time interacting with each other and that like kind of community 191 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,080 of teachers and hearing them kind of process what had happened in the day and talk about 192 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,120 the students and talk about their classroom. 193 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,840 And there was something about just that community that really appealed to me. 194 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,360 And I kind of loved being around it. 195 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,280 So that started to really get my mind thinking like maybe this is a career for me. 196 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,720 So then also with geography at the same time, I just was going through my prerequisite, 197 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,760 like classes that you have to take core classes the first three years of college. 198 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,080 And I took a geography class. 199 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,760 And it wasn't because I was particularly interested in it. 200 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,880 I remember thinking like, I don't know what we're going to learn in a college class about 201 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,380 geography and really quickly I realized like, oh, I love this. 202 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:43,560 Like I just loved the way the teacher taught it. 203 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:44,800 I loved the content. 204 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,000 It was my favorite thing. 205 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,360 And so I remember not really knowing what career I wanted to do with it, but I just 206 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,240 wanted to tell everybody about how much I love geography and how cool it was. 207 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,880 And so I kind of felt like, oh, teaching is that. 208 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Like teaching is just me trying to get other people excited about this thing that I'm excited 209 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,840 about. 210 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,480 And so I felt like, oh, I can get paid to just talk about how much I love geography. 211 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 And so that's kind of how those two things I think kind of came together. 212 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,380 That's really inspiring. 213 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:14,080 And on the subject of teaching, where have you taught at and how is ICS different from 214 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,080 those places? 215 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,560 And so I did like my teacher training in my first few years working was at a public school 216 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,560 in America, in Texas. 217 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:25,360 And so I never really had my own classroom there. 218 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,560 I wasn't like a full time classroom teacher, but I was like a substitute, full time substitute. 219 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,280 So I was on campus every day interacting with kids. 220 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:38,960 And then in 2011, I moved to Nairobi, Kenya and I taught at an international Christian 221 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,240 school and I was there for seven years. 222 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,440 So then now I have taught here. 223 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:50,400 I would say that the school in America was very different than the school here. 224 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Yeah. 225 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,720 So it's hard to even make comparisons of what would be the same. 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,320 It's just such a different experience. 227 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:02,480 But I would say the school in Kenya and the school here are very, very similar. 228 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,800 It's like the same type of school with it being like an international Christian school, 229 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,880 students from many different places. 230 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,080 And so like Kenya being a Christian country, I think I had a lot more like Christian students. 231 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,800 And so parts of the Christian component of the school were a little more like open. 232 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,840 Like during chapel, we sang worship songs and like there was a bit of that. 233 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,760 And I would say that the students in Kenya, it's also like a very academically driven 234 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,240 country. 235 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,280 Like the students there really had a lot of the same pressures that their parents put 236 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 on them of like, you need to achieve a lot. 237 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:37,080 And you can be a doctor or a lawyer or an architect or like stuff like that. 238 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,740 But I think that in a lot of ways, there wasn't like that school didn't have the same level 239 00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:45,040 of like academic intensity that I experienced here. 240 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:51,200 So I think it was like similar, but a little bit like less intense in that way. 241 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,480 The other thing I think that I would talk about is the students there were like more 242 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,480 extroverted. 243 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:00,960 So my classroom often was just like much louder in kind of like, yeah, students just much 244 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,400 bigger kind of outgoing personalities, where I think the Thai personality is a little bit 245 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,200 more like polite and introverted. 246 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,320 And sometimes I'll ask a question and I know like students know the answer, but like you 247 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,720 won't as loudly like talk about it. 248 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,560 I would say like I've really loved teaching at both. 249 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:21,920 Like the students feel so similar, like these really wonderful students who take their academics 250 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,720 really seriously. 251 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,080 I think in both places, like I've experienced the sense that like, students see me as a 252 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,460 teacher that's a person and not just this like robot, non human thing. 253 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:36,820 I think it's been really important to me. 254 00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:41,300 And then with both of them, like working with teachers, other teachers that like teaching 255 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:45,320 is a calling and we like love what we do and it's not just a job. 256 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,760 I think both of those have been really like great places to work at. 257 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,200 Did you teach geography there as well in high school? 258 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,960 Yeah, so my job there was different. 259 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,600 I did teach geography, but I also taught AP US history, a model United Nations class, like 260 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,640 as a class, I taught a class called Christianity and culture. 261 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,540 I taught an economics class. 262 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:08,040 So there I taught like a bunch of different things one time each and here I mainly teach 263 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,400 geography a bunch of times. 264 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,920 All right, so let's go back to that subject of Kenya. 265 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:20,200 What was it like living in Kenya, an African country and what were some of the major cultural 266 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,960 differences between living there and moving here and kind of comparing the two? 267 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,280 The thing that I always talk about when I like mentioned living in Kenya first and foremost 268 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,640 is just like the weather was the best weather in the world. 269 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,000 Like it was I lived in a house that didn't have any air conditioning or heating. 270 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,580 It was like not a super insulated home, like a pretty pretty like, you know, it was stone 271 00:15:39,580 --> 00:15:42,000 walls and like tile floor. 272 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Nice, you know, but it didn't have heating or air conditioning and I left the windows 273 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,500 open and year round and I was never too hot, never too cold. 274 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:56,240 And so it's just this really wonderful climate where you want to be outside all the time 275 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,320 and I like woke up in the morning to the sound of birds chirping outside and just felt like 276 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,320 I spent a lot of time outside. 277 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,680 So I think there was something about living in Kenya that I felt really connected to nature. 278 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:11,460 I felt like I was constantly outside, constantly hearing nature, nature around me. 279 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:16,360 And then also just where I was outside, like in Nairobi, there's so much adventure close 280 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,800 by like I could quickly go out somewhere and be on safari and seeing lions and elephant 281 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 and giraffe and animals like that. 282 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,160 There was really great camping. 283 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,560 There was like there was a mountain I could, you know, hike up to the top of a mountain 284 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,560 nearby. 285 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,560 The beach was nearby. 286 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,880 I think that's that part of living there. 287 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,120 And so then the things I think similar to what I was getting at talking about the students, 288 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,320 the difference of students, like just culturally African culture, Kenyan culture is very like 289 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,880 vibrant and like a lot of dancing and singing and celebrating and this very kind of like 290 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,320 full of life culture that I loved being around. 291 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,600 Whereas here I think there's still a sense, you know, there's a shared sense of like community, 292 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,080 like very communal cultures just like Kenya. 293 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:03,440 But I think that the way that the like friendliness of Kenya happens in a very like warm, outgoing, 294 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,560 extroverted way. 295 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,080 I think in Thailand I've found it to be more like very respectful and polite. 296 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,720 And if you know the doing the why like to people who are it's just more formal. 297 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,300 And so I think that in some ways has been harder for me because I'm not like Texas is 298 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:20,480 not like the most formal place. 299 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,160 So some of those formalities have made me like worry that I'm doing the wrong thing. 300 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:31,200 But I love, yeah, like so friendly and so welcoming still to me and people who are always 301 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,440 willing to help me. 302 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Yeah, something that I always like one of my goals in my geography classes, I tell students 303 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,280 like I think every culture has something beauty like has beauty in it and something worth 304 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,520 celebrating. 305 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,400 And I've really loved being having lived in African culture and now an Asian culture and 306 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,960 seeing how so many of the values are the same in a really beautiful way, but then expressed 307 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,800 in like very different personalities. 308 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,560 That's a really beautiful way to put it. 309 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Every culture there is beauty in every culture and cultural differences. 310 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:06,720 And like you said, like the differences in how you express the same values are very interesting. 311 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,880 And we hear that you're teaching a newer class called Senior Transition. 312 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,360 Can you tell us a little bit more about it and what gave you the idea and why should 313 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,280 seniors take the class? 314 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Yeah. 315 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,940 So this is I feel like it's been a long time coming for me to teach this class. 316 00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:23,840 So I grew up kindergarten through 12th grade, Austin, Texas. 317 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,080 I never transferred schools. 318 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,160 It was like straight through and I had like friends that were in the same school as me 319 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,160 the whole way through. 320 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,080 It felt like a kind of a very like straightforward path without a bunch of change and a bunch 321 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,680 of transition in my childhood and not super diverse either. 322 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,280 And so when I moved to Kenya and I was teaching at this international school and really that 323 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,160 school had more turnover than we have here. 324 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,500 Like a lot more people were in for two years and then moving two years and then go two 325 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:48,500 years and go. 326 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:54,040 And my initial thought was like, man, like this is such an amazing lifestyle to be surrounded 327 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,920 by people from so many parts of the world. 328 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,440 And like these are the kids who are going to be the future of our world. 329 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Like they just have so much talent at being fluent with intercultural, you know, as our 330 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,280 world becomes more globalized. 331 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Like they're used to that. 332 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,360 Like they are that. 333 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:12,000 And then year after year I noticed some of these kids that I thought were just going 334 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,040 to do incredible things really struggled as they moved to college. 335 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,760 And I knew that there were like we did a senior transition thing near the end of the year. 336 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:26,240 And a lot of the kids had MK reentry camps, like things to welcome international students 337 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,120 or missionary kids to wherever they were going to college. 338 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:33,760 And even some of the kids that stayed in Kenya, there was just this like struggle out of this 339 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,880 very unique international school world. 340 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,360 And I just started to have the idea like, I feel like we can be doing more as a school 341 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,160 to prepare them for that next step. 342 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,520 And so I just really got a passion for that and wanted to think more and more like how 343 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,640 could we do this better to prepare them. 344 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,400 And I would talk about that idea with former students and they'd be like, oh yeah, we 345 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,400 need that. 346 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Like I wish I would have paid more attention when I was a senior to the transition stuff 347 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,400 that was there. 348 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,320 So I just felt like there was more that we could do as a school to send kids. 349 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,840 And so I ended up getting my master's degree in the idea of like creating a program for 350 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,320 senior students at an international school with the hope of implementing it somewhere. 351 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280 So this is the first year that I'm really kind of like kind of getting to do that in 352 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,540 a classroom setting. 353 00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:20,700 On that same subject, we're over a month into the new school year so far. 354 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:24,800 So what have the seniors in this new class done so far? 355 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,520 And then what can they also look forward to? 356 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,560 The main focus so far has just been like talking about what is transition and why it's different 357 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,880 than just change. 358 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,360 The main grade in the class, I guess not like an overly academic heavy class. 359 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:43,440 Like just I'm having them journal every week, at least a weekly check in of a journal. 360 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Just what's going on, where are you in your senior year and your experience? 361 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Just trying to be present in that. 362 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,920 We've talked a bit about like the very formal like stages of transition and how something 363 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,840 like what we call senioritis is really like a very normal part of the leaving stage and 364 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,440 kind of just like what to expect, you know, that if you're feeling a little weird about 365 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,920 the whole experience, like how that's kind of normal and giving them a space to talk 366 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,920 about that. 367 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,520 So one of the things that we've been doing is like sharing songs that speak to the emotions 368 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,240 that we're having at the time or speak about the experience of transition. 369 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,520 That's kind of the main stuff. 370 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240 So going forward, I think, I mean, there's so many things I still want to talk about, 371 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,720 we're still planning to talk about like how students can leave well or in this time well 372 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,720 and make a plan. 373 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,480 One of the things I'm most excited about coming up soon that we've been talking about is 374 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,080 just like trying to ask the students what are some practical things that you guys really 375 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800 want to be equipped with before you go. 376 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,840 And so some of the things that we have planned are like some self-defense lessons where we're 377 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,360 going to bring somebody in and do a few different sessions on just how to feel safe. 378 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:49,520 Like you can protect yourself if you remind yourself in a scenario. 379 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,880 Another thing is like Mr. Mark is going to come in and teach a couple cooking classes. 380 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,760 And so we're going to teach students how to cook like almost just like a Thai dish so 381 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,920 that they can carry that with them and like scratch that itch of like, I'm really in the 382 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,120 mood for Thai food. 383 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:05,320 Or if you want to introduce it to somebody else that they would get to cook that. 384 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,440 So yeah, those are some of the things I'm really, really interested in doing as we go 385 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,440 forward. 386 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,840 I would love to, I don't know if we're allowed to do this or not here, but I would love to 387 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,420 like, Premi just was here and then left and then back. 388 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:23,840 So like that idea of transition for you, do you feel like it's something you're experiencing? 389 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Has that been like a transition easy for you or has it been challenging for you? 390 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,240 So the transitioning was, I expected change. 391 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:40,880 I expected a new environment, but I like personally, I didn't expect for these changes to come 392 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,560 into my life in such a way that like affected many parts of it. 393 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:51,920 And like the U.S. and Thailand are such, I feel like they're such different places culturally, 394 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,640 like beliefs, traditions. 395 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:02,200 And so I, yes, I did, the transition was difficult at first, but then I felt that as I like adjusted 396 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,080 it, things got easier and I got more used to things. 397 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,360 But I feel like if I had a class or someone or like advice on how that transition will 398 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:15,120 be, I feel that that would have been really, really helpful to me. 399 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,120 Yeah. 400 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,160 And that's one of the main things I've been telling students is just like, try to connect 401 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,080 with somebody who's done it before and have that kind of mentor who you can ask those 402 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,040 questions with and get advice from. 403 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Can I ask you one more? 404 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,400 Yes. 405 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,280 How are you seeing Thailand different now with like fresh eyes or even ICS, like with 406 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,160 fresh eyes now that you kind of stepped out of it and now you're back into it? 407 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Oh, wow. 408 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,160 I love that question. 409 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,160 I can speak on this for like hours and hours. 410 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,680 So one of the things that I noticed, one of the very first things like stepping into the 411 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,200 airport was diversity. 412 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,200 In America? 413 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,200 In America, yes. 414 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,600 I like Thailand is a relatively homogeneous place. 415 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,400 So like all throughout my life, I've been mostly exposed to like Thai people or like 416 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,720 Asian people. 417 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,520 And then I went and then I realized that, oh, wow, there's like so many different people 418 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520 coming from all these different places. 419 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,680 And like there's so many little nuances with each race, each culture, the systematic injustices 420 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,680 I've seen. 421 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760 I saw like with my own eyes, I saw a lot of that too. 422 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 And I think that that was really insightful. 423 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,660 And I think just like that in general, and more so in America, I think that conversations 424 00:24:23,660 --> 00:24:30,320 about race and how people perceive and the differences and also similarities, equity, 425 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,960 equality, I think those conversations need to happen more. 426 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,400 And I think those conversations are also really important. 427 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,600 And also one thing that I learned, like I went to a public school. 428 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,600 Yeah. 429 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Right. 430 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,240 And so I saw the difference between, I saw the differences of how people could freely, 431 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,920 freely express their own ideas. 432 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,900 And I think one thing that America is really big about or like one thing that is important 433 00:24:52,900 --> 00:25:00,240 to Americans is right study of having a right study of you being able to do this because 434 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,000 you want to, and it is your own right. 435 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,640 And one of the rights that I found really inspiring, the freedom of speech. 436 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,720 That was really interesting. 437 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,800 And I met, I made friends with like so many different people and we had like these really 438 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,860 great conversations. 439 00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:21,600 And I saw that like, like there in America or especially where I lived, it was in like 440 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,580 a college town, so it was a lot more liberal. 441 00:25:24,580 --> 00:25:30,760 What I learned or what I saw was that people were a lot more, not only outgoing, but more 442 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,800 felt more comfortable and free to express their own ideas about different things. 443 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080 And I think that that's really inspiring. 444 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,040 And especially coming back to how Thailand, I feel like Thailand as a whole is somewhat 445 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:50,480 more conservative, especially on the subject of expressing our ideas and how it would be 446 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,780 perceived in society. 447 00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:58,360 And I think a big part of that is connected to societal expectations and how like culturally 448 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:02,360 how the society, how Thai society is as a whole. 449 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,120 Been about like around a month now coming here. 450 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:10,140 And sometimes I would be in like a classroom and the teacher would be talking about some 451 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:15,040 things and I would be thinking, huh, like I would be having these like new ideas, new 452 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,760 thoughts, intertwined with like how the different like nuances, whether that's like ethnicity, 453 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,360 race, gender, sexuality. 454 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:28,900 And I would be having these new ideas and I've seen so many different things through 455 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:30,780 different lens now. 456 00:26:30,780 --> 00:26:32,240 And I think that's really insightful. 457 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,680 And I'm really grateful for the experiences I had there. 458 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,440 Uncircling back to the senior transition class, do you have any quick advice you'd like to 459 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,840 give to seniors or do they have to take the class to get that advice? 460 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,880 Yeah, I mean, definitely to get there's a lot, you know, there's so much to talk about. 461 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,960 And I think a lot of it is like just kind of what you just did, which is like the ability 462 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,920 to process what is it that I've gone through and what's happening and how I'm seeing things 463 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560 differently and how I'm this unique mix of so many things. 464 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,320 So it's required. 465 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,200 You know, I think that having a whole a whole semester to do that is really important. 466 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,400 An assignment that I had them do was reach out to somebody who has gone through the transition 467 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,360 or a move similar to them. 468 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:22,320 So somebody from a similar background went to a similar type school, going to a similar, 469 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,660 you know, if they're doing a gap year or went to college or whatever and asked them to bring 470 00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:27,660 back advice. 471 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:32,120 And so actually somebody who did a really amazing job. 472 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:37,000 So Miss Jade, middle school English teacher, did an amazing job kind of answering those 473 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 questions. 474 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,640 So maybe I'll pull one of her little quotes that she shared because I thought she did 475 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,640 such a great job. 476 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,440 And it's just a reminder that there's so much wisdom around us. 477 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:52,180 So what she said, this would be her advice to seniors was prioritize saying good goodbyes. 478 00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:56,020 She wrote that her senioritis was so strong by the end of the year that she didn't care 479 00:27:56,020 --> 00:28:00,240 if she said goodbye to her classmates or hung out with certain groups for the last time. 480 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,200 She was so ready to move on to a new place and new people that she neglected to close 481 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,780 off the ICS piece of her life well. 482 00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:10,880 She says that you should take time to sit down and write letters to some friends or 483 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,700 plan a fun trip or an outing with people that you value. 484 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,120 She said that like for her, she thought maybe like it was pointless to do that. 485 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,340 And it may seem like it's pointless because you're about to leave. 486 00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:25,920 But she says that when she looks back, she's glad that she ended her time well and said 487 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,720 the things that need to be said. 488 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,720 So I think that's like a great piece of advice because you get so busy with things like capstone 489 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,720 and this and that. 490 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800 And then you're it's so hard to like emotionally get in that place. 491 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200 It's like I'm going to end well. 492 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,360 But transition theory kind of says that the better you end a stage of life, the easier 493 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280 you can enter into that next stage of life. 494 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,480 It's like saying good goodbyes. 495 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,480 Right. 496 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Yeah. 497 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,480 I'm saying good goodbyes. 498 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Premier, thank you so much for sharing. 499 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,040 We're going to jump into our last question of this segment. 500 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,700 And it's kind of a transition into some new future things for you, Mr. Sean. 501 00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:02,580 So what are some of your future plans? 502 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:04,480 We heard of something special coming up. 503 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Is that right? 504 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,480 I'm just chilling. 505 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Nothing. 506 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Come on. 507 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Come on. 508 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Yes. 509 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920 So I got engaged over the summer and so I'm very excited. 510 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,560 I feel like it's been a long time coming. 511 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,120 I'm an old man, but I'm getting married in January. 512 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,600 So a lot of wedding planning right now and just figuring out and getting excited about 513 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,600 the future with my fiance. 514 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Cool. 515 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,600 All right. 516 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Well, thank you very much. 517 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,260 And with that little bit of good news, we have run out of time. 518 00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:35,880 As we end this episode, we'd like to say a big thanks to Mr. Sean for sharing some of 519 00:29:35,880 --> 00:30:03,360 his story and even some of his insights into the subject of transitions. 520 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,680 In our next episode, we'll be talking about the importance of work-life balance and how 521 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,440 that can affect our lives for good or for bad. 522 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,200 If you think about it, share our show with your friends and family and spread the word 523 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