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Welcome to Students Incorporated, a podcast exploring the topics of business, education,

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technology and design.

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I'm your host, Mr. Jason.

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Join me weekly as my team and I produce content that's informative, positive, fun and uplifting.

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Episodes include student conversations, interviews with thought leaders and inspirational stories

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with an international flavor.

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This podcast is created and produced with the help of students from the International

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Community School of Bangkok.

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In today's episode, we'll be introducing two teachers who are new to our school.

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We are excited to get to hear their stories and we welcome them to our community.

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But before we jump into our guest segments, let's hear the quote of the day and get some

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headline news.

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Our quote of the day comes from Simon Sinek.

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He is quoted to have said,

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Life is beautiful not because of the things we see or do.

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Life is beautiful because of the people we meet.

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It is the profound connections we make with others that truly define the beauty of life.

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Embrace the power of human connections, for it is through the people we meet that our

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lives become richer, more meaningful and truly extraordinary.

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Japan's release of the Fukushima nuclear power plant, Wastewater, has sparked backlash

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from numerous countries in the area.

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These countries have banned seafood imports from Japan due to health concerns.

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The impact from these bans on imported seafood would cause Japan to lose billions of yen,

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which would impact the local economy in Japan and also drive up fish prices in countries

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that import seafood from Japan.

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There is also an environmental concern due to some countries possibly increasing their

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amount of fishing, leading to overfishing.

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A Taiwanese electric vehicle company, Goguro, and two companies from the Philippines are

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partnering up to form a joint venture.

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The goal of the partnership is to increase productivity at Goguro's electrical scooters

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that rely on swappable batteries found in different stations throughout the country.

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The companies claim that the cooperation will be an environmentally friendly solution for

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transportation that is both scalable and sustainable.

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Back to the tourism industry, hotels in Thailand have seen a 20% decline in Chinese tourists

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as compared to pre-pandemic conditions.

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Additionally, China has been increasing its domestic tourist attractions with the hopes

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of boosting its own economy.

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Thailand's new prime minister has promised to improve the tourism industry, yet the help

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may be delayed until the government is formed.

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Thank you, Rebecca and Premi.

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Now let's jump into the first part of our episode.

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We'll start off by introducing our guest with some icebreaker questions.

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Mr. Keith, could you tell us a little bit about yourself?

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Yes.

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I am teaching geometry and engineering foundations.

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I grew up in the United States.

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I lived in Florida, Virginia, Michigan, and also taught in Hong Kong for four years.

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Thank you.

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Our first question is, who is your hero?

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So I really had to think about this and I thought of Christian philosophers and I like

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history and read history, but I really had to decide on a heroine, Ahsoka Tano, which

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is funny because her episodes came out recently, but I really respected her a long time ago

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because she really saw, I'm trying not to give spoilers, but when the Jedi Order represented

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all this good character, really was misguided, she saw that and she stepped away from it,

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even when it was difficult for her.

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So I really respected that, even what everyone thought, this is, we should be part of this

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Jedi Order, she's like, no, they're not following truth anymore, so I'm going to go off on my

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own.

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And at the same time, she was very compassionate.

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You always see the compassionate side heart.

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So the balance of truth and compassion, I think she's a great character.

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Up next, what is your biggest fear?

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So this is maybe a little cliche, but I would say my biggest fear is fear itself.

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So when I look back, I would say that when I was afraid of something and held back, that

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those are the times I look back and regret.

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But then times I was courageous, like when my wife said, what do you think about going

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and teaching internationally?

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And I was like, yeah, let's go for it, just no fear.

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And we did it.

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And that's been a big reward.

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So I struggle to think of animals or anything I'm afraid of, because I love animals and

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bugs and stuff.

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So I usually can't pull out one of those.

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Yeah, but that's definitely very valid and very real, fear and fear itself.

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I can understand, I relate to that.

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Our next question, what is your go-to karaoke song?

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If you don't do karaoke, then what is your favorite road trip song or playlist?

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So I had to go with more road trip.

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And the songs I always enjoy and ask Alexa to play are Rich Mullen songs.

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So Rich Mullen's You May Know Awesome God, which is a big classic.

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A lot of people know Awesome God, and it's just that song that makes you want to jump

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up and shout.

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But at the same time, he has Hold Me Jesus, I'm Shaking Like a Leaf.

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So just those times when you're just fearful, right?

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Or overwhelmed, just that's a good song that guides you to look to Jesus for that strength.

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Wow, I'll have to listen to some of those songs sometime.

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And for our last icebreaker, what was your weirdest and most random class you took in

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high school or college?

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And if you don't want to share any, what grade did you get for that class?

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Oh, I didn't know you were going to ask about the grade.

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I didn't take many weird classes, but I got to tell you about the statistics class I took.

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So I was in engineering and engineers traditionally don't like statistics.

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So it's even a class like statistics for engineers.

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And the professor, and this is back in the 90s, the professor said, I'm going to post

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all the notes.

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He didn't take attendance.

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So I was like, this is great.

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I'm going to just read everything.

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I'll just come in on test day.

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And I planned on coming on the day before the test because he would do test review.

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Well, I came in for test review.

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He had moved the test up.

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All I had was a pen with me, no calculator.

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So I was like, I got to take the test.

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So I took the whole test and I wrote on almost every question.

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I don't have a calculator, but if I did, this is what I would type in.

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And fortunately, he took that.

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So I still tell students today, if you forget your calculator, you can just describe what

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you type in.

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So not a weird class, but it was kind of a crazy incident.

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You've recently moved to Thailand.

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What was your transition like moving to Thailand and ICS?

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It's been really good.

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I transitioned to Hong Kong from the US back in 2016.

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And that being our first international transition was really overwhelming, but we had good support.

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So then we moved back to the US and then came here.

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So we kind of knew what we were getting into.

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And that helped a lot.

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So the transition was better.

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And we were able to buy a car from a family that was leaving.

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So now we can get around and load everything into the back of the car is so much easier.

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In Hong Kong, we never did.

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So we had to do public transportation and carry everything.

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So we learned that lesson.

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It was well worth getting a car.

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The school has been so good taking care of families.

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I've really been impressed with that.

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There's been a lot of people looking out for my wife and my sons.

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And I really appreciate that.

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The school does a good job in welcoming whole families.

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That's really lovely to hear.

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But yeah, I'll definitely agree.

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ICS is known for its great community.

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And I love that about ICS.

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And building on to that, what are some cultural differences that surprise you when you move

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to Thailand and ICS?

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So Hong Kong, definitely there were a lot of cultural differences I had to get used

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to.

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And we visited Thailand while we were there.

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So there wasn't a lot that at first I was like, oh, wow, this is shocking.

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We kind of knew what to expect.

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But I will say there's one thing that's really puzzled me.

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And I didn't know that this I would realize.

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But as I drive around, everyone pulls in backwards to parking lots.

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I still haven't figured out why.

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In the US, everyone pulls straight in and then like driving nerds back in.

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But here I'm super impressed.

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Everyone backs in.

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So I haven't figured out why yet.

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But that's the big cultural difference that still has me scratching my head.

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Oh, wow, that's crazy.

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I would have never thought of that, of backing out a car, how to park, being a shocking culture.

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Like being a culture that's crazy.

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And for our last question, what were some of your first thoughts about ICS and teaching

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here?

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So really, I think I would sum that up with balance.

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So I've taught in a lot of different schools, from public schools in the US to private Christian

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schools.

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And I see good balance here.

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So sometimes I've been in schools where the community is the big focus.

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And academics, it's OK.

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But there's all these events and everything around, let's build community, let's make

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sure that's strong.

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And I've been in other schools where academics is.

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They would, community was important, but you could tell academics was overwhelming and

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drove a lot of the community.

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And I see a good balance of that here.

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We're still stressed sometimes with academics, but there's a good balance, I think, with

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community.

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You can tell people care about each other and look out for each other.

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So I really have been impressed with that here at ICS.

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Thank you.

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And with that last question for Mr. Keith, we'll be right back after a short announcement.

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For the seniors, Carnival is finally over.

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There were various games and competitions for people of all ages to enjoy.

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The seniors had put in a lot of effort to make sure everything runs smoothly.

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And it definitely paid off.

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These activities not only brought joy to the attendees, but also helped raise money for

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their senior trip.

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People were excited to participate and support the seniors in their fundraising efforts.

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The success of the Carnival can be attributed to the seniors' excellent organizational

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skills and their dedication to making the event a memorable experience for everyone.

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As for upcoming sports event, our varsity volleyball team is having a pool play at ISB

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on September 9th.

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We are back with part two, where we'll be introducing another one of our new teachers,

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Mrs. Jess.

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We'll start off with introducing our guest along with some icebreaker questions.

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Mrs. Jess, could you please introduce yourself, what classes you teach, and a little bit about

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yourself?

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Sure.

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I am teaching 10th grade British literature and 12th grade world literature.

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And a little bit about myself, I am entering now into my 11th year of teaching.

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I taught seven years in the United States in the Chicagoland area in Illinois, and I

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was a middle school English teacher.

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And then I taught for the past three years in Casablanca, Morocco at a private school

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as a high school English teacher.

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And I'm super excited to be here.

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I'm really thankful to be your first guest.

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Thank you.

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Our first question is, who is your hero?

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Many people have heroes that they don't know, right?

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Someone they look up to, somebody famous.

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For myself, that feels really impersonal.

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And so I look at someone who I do know as my hero, and it really was my high school

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cheerleading coach.

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I was a cheerleader of middle school, high school, and then college, and so my high school

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cheerleading coach, Miss Cheryl Jokic, was just such a fantastic woman who actually changed

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from being one of the leading anesthesiologists in Chicago.

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She was one of the first female anesthesiologists in Chicago, turned into high school cheerleading

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coach.

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And so she was just someone who really took a turn in life and came alongside us to mentor

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a bunch of silly, goofy high school girls who came in with very little talent to offer.

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And she transformed our team in such a positive way that by my senior year, one of my best

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high school memories is finishing first place at our competition.

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And it was, we were the underdogs, and it was such a joyful experience.

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Being under her leadership and finishing first place was just a phenomenal experience as

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a high schooler who walked in without much to offer as a freshman and really seeing myself

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be pushed to be the best that I can be.

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And so as a teacher, I usually refer to my class as my team.

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If you're in my class, you're very familiar with team qualities, inspired really by my

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experience as a student athlete and my hero who pushed me to be the best person and athlete

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that I could be.

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Thank you so much.

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Our next question is, what is your biggest fear?

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So starting with a really deep question here.

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So if I was going to answer it with a deep answer, my response would be one of my biggest

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fears is being misheard or misunderstood.

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So actually being on a podcast is a good way to face that.

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And this fear of just not being able to fix something that was a misunderstanding is always

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something I'm afraid of.

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But more on maybe a lighter note is I have recurring dreams that I am late to class.

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Like still to this day, as an adult, my dreams are either as a high school student, like

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showing up to their own class.

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I can't find my schedule.

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I can't unlock my locker or dreams as a teacher where my class has started and I'm running

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late or I'm like still at home and I realize class has started and I'm not there.

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So I don't know if any of you feel the fear or the pressure to be on time for class, but

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that is something that still is a fear that I have even into adulthood from reflecting

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on my time in high school.

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Oh wow, I have the exact same dreams too.

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I'm always like these recurring dreams that I'm late for school or like I completely missed

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out on the first day of school because I did not wake up in time.

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I know.

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Yes, that is very scary to be the thing you wake up to.

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But also like feeling the fear of not being understood as well.

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I think I relate to that fear as well.

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Our next question, what is your go-to karaoke song?

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If you don't do karaoke, then what is your favorite road trip song or playlist?

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So I'm actually really excited about karaoke.

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I hope that in Thailand it is more of a thing than we experienced in Morocco.

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I am quite the singer.

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Not a good singer, just a singer as in a person who sings often.

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Much to my husband's chagrin, I will sing all the time.

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Not that I've had a lot of experience actually singing karaoke, but in the car, my thing

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is a little unique.

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I love maritime folk music.

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Most of you may know this as sea shanties.

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So they came a little bit popular during the lockdown.

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There was one song in particular that became really popular and it was kind of all over

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social media.

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And I was like, yes, this is my time to shine.

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Like this is my jam.

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My husband is not a huge fan, so we do have to kind of compromise with each other.

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But if it was my choice, sea shanties for hours.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Jumping to our final icebreaker.

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What was your weirdest and randomest class you took in high school or college?

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And if you don't like sharing, what grade did you get for that class?

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So I was kind of the queen of random and weird classes in college.

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I had gone to a small private high school, preschool through my senior year.

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And there just weren't a lot of options for myself in high school.

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And so when I went to college, I took every weird and random class that I could that still

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qualified for the credits that I needed.

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So my two classes that stick out the most, I took ice skating as a class and I did receive

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an A in that class as in the beginner level.

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But I remember our final performance, we did an ice skating routine to like my heart will

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go on for like tight panic.

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And I was a cheerleader in middle school, high school and college.

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And so I got my ice skating class together and we came up with this routine and we all

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built like a physical human Titanic on ice skates and we skated around the rink and reenacted

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this whole Titanic scene.

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And then my other class on the science level, I took the study of honey.

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Oh, wow.

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Bees.

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I didn't know that was a thing.

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That's well, I guess it's a thing.

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But like a whole class, it's crazy.

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Yeah, I didn't know you could make a whole class about the study of honey.

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But it was a semester long class.

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And my final project.

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Yeah, my final project for the class, I baked cookies.

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And so I baked cookies, the same recipe using sugar, like granular sugar and then honey.

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And I wrote about the difference in baking and the process making it, the texture, the

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quality, taste testing, passed out cookies to my class.

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And it was a phenomenal science class that got me a science credit.

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And it was so much fun.

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They sound like some really cool, interesting, fun classes.

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I'll be sure to take some of these classes when I go to college.

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It'll be fun.

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I hope that our seniors really do take advantage of fun of college.

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We have to be all studying and all nighters all the time.

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Have fun, do something different.

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I'll definitely do that.

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Enjoy college.

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I will do that.

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You've mentioned that you lived in Morocco prior to moving here.

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What was your transition like moving from Morocco to Thailand?

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Transitions can always be a little bit scary, a little bit exciting, a little bit sad.

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And we had all the feels.

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We absolutely love the country of Morocco.

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We were there during lockdown and COVID and all of the things where we couldn't leave

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the country.

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So we spent so much of our time moving around Morocco because we couldn't leave.

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But what a great country to be stuck in, quote unquote.

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And so the transition from a country that we loved into a new experience, you'll always

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have, like I said, some loss.

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One of those losses was that my husband and I are very sensitive people to animals.

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We are animal lovers and Morocco has a very, very large, almost uncontrollable population

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of street animals.

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And very early on, my husband and I got the reputation of being the neighborhood Americans

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who loved animals.

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And so within our three years there, people would leave baby animals on our doorstep.

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So we had a litter of puppies dropped off and we had three different litters of kittens

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dropped off.

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And we were also taking in our local street dogs to the vet on regular occasions for different

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therapies and treatments.

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And we just raised and took care of all the street animals to the point where actually

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about only five months ago, we had 12 cats in our house that we were taking care of all

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in different rooms because they all had these ones took eye drops.

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Those ones were taking pills.

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Everyone was taking all of their different medications.

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And so the transition was actually really hard to leave behind these animals that we

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had cared for and helped raise.

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I did find adopters for nine of our kittens because I brought them to school with me the

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last week of school and convinced my students to adopt kittens.

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We had a big adoption fest.

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So that was something that part of loss.

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And also the transition of language was very difficult for me in particular because I took

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French in high school, hoping that I would someday live in French speaking Africa.

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So I had already had this vision being in Morocco using the French was so easy in my

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life being able to communicate and now moving to a country in which I didn't know the language

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was actually very challenging for me.

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And I relied a lot on my husband, who in both circumstances, he did not know the mother

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tongue.

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He does not speak French.

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And so I pulled some support from him with that moving into a country that now neither

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of us know the language and we get to learn together, which is pretty great.

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And I know I'm talking a lot here, but there's so many differences that are also really great.

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For example, Morocco is 99.98% Muslim.

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So I will not miss the 5 a.m. call to prayer in the morning.

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Will not be missing that.

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And I'm just so thankful to be moving also from a public school into a Christian school

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and just have more freedom.

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In Morocco, we all had to sign documents that said we will not speak about our religion

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in the classroom.

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Like if a student asked us, we were not allowed to answer.

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And so that's a change.

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I talked about loss earlier and now we're talking about gain.

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I feel so much more freedom and less fear coming here and being able to share who I

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am because my faith plays such a big role in these big life decisions that I'm making.

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And maybe lastly, on more of a lighter note, I'm still getting used to the transition of

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my name being called by my first name is a really big transition where in the States

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there's always Mrs. Kastner.

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In Morocco, it was respectful just to say miss.

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So I was always just miss and my husband was mister.

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And so that was a transition and now transitioning into Miss Jess or Miss Jessica.

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I didn't even know what to say for my preference because I've never been called my first name

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by students.

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And so that's more one of those small adjustments that some people might not think about, but

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that I'm adjusting to each day.

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That's adorable.

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I wish I could adopt a kitten from you.

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Honestly, building on to that, what are some of the cultural differences that surprise

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you when you move to Thailand and ICS?

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Some of the cultural differences, man, when you first arrive somewhere, I think immediately

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your brain goes to looking at what's different and you're kind of pointing like, oh, that's

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different and that's different and that's different.

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And before you transition to like, oh, well, what's the same?

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What feels similar and we're at home?

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I will say on a funny note, one of the first cultural differences that I noticed, like

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our second day here, we went to Mega, the mall, and I am just not used to seeing animals

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and strollers at the mall.

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Like take your pet shopping for the day is not a thing that I had ever seen before.

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And more recently, I went to go see a movie and there was like the concession stands and

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I thought there was a vending machine and it had pretty collars.

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I was like, oh, what's in there?

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Maybe ice cream.

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And I walk up and it's dog food.

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Oh, dogs.

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Because there's a pet cinema.

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Like you take your pet to the movies with you.

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And that was just one of the things that I've been sharing with my friends and family at

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home.

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Americans love their pets.

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We do, but we've never been in a mall situation or public with so many animals in strollers.

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That was one of the biggest differences that I had noticed.

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But coming from Morocco, I moved here straight from Morocco and so I really enjoyed the culture

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where I feel that in Thailand, so far in Bangkok, in Bangna, I've had a mix of that American

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culture and some of my Moroccan culture that I feel is home, like walking down Market Street

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with all the vendors and the motos just zooming around you like this feels like home.

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This feels like my Morocco home.

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And then walking into the malls with your air conditioning and your Dairy Queen and

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your Cold Stone.

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It's like, okay, this also feels like home.

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So I've really, really enjoyed that my experience here so far has felt like a really safe and

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positive mixture of the two cultures that I've been living in for the past 10 years.

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Moving to a new country often comes with lots of challenges and difficulties.

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It's completely normal to struggle with certain aspects of the transition.

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For me, the biggest challenge was to get used to ants and geckos like near my bed.

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Yeah, that's my experience.

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And for our last question, what were some of your first thoughts about ICS and teaching

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here?

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My first thoughts that I had very soon after arrival was seriously, I love this place.

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I genuinely just felt so much love the staff here, your teachers and their families are

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so, so welcoming.

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Maybe not as much of interest to students, but for teachers having administrators that

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really care about you was phenomenal.

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And the administrators held a dinner for the teachers a progressive dinner, right?

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And so we traveled from each of our admin, so our bosses houses, one for appetizers,

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then we went one for dinner and one for dessert.

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And it was just such a sense of community and it was so much fun.

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And this year, as I mentioned earlier, I've been teaching 11 years.

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So besides the teachers, besides the administrators, going into my 11th year, I'm usually a little

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bit nervous before the first day of school, like, ah, what are my students going to be

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like and are they going to like me and how are things going to go?

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And this year, I just felt excitement.

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Like I just knew from the teachers, the administrators, even like the handbook, just the way the school

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was run, the hallways and like the amount of student work.

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And it's so clear that students play such a big role.

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I mean, even right now in this podcast, sitting with you guys in this room is great.

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And that students have such voice and advocacy in their school.

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Starting day one, I was not nervous.

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I was so excited to be here and be part of this community.

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So thank you for inviting me today into this podcast and being able to share a little bit

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of my voice and my perspectives with you.

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Thank you to Mrs. Jess for coming today.

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Thank you for answering so many of our questions and for taking the time to join our podcast.

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I know my team and I have learned a lot about you from our short time together and so have

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our listeners.

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As we close out this episode, I'd like to mention our quote of the day again.

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Life is beautiful not because of the things we see or do.

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Life is beautiful because of the people we meet.

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I encourage you to meet someone new today, say hi or what's up or just a head nod to

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start.

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Our lives can be enriched by the new relationships we can build.

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Stay tuned for our next episode as we'll be talking with Mr. Sean about something we

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all go through many times in our lives, transitions.

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He'll also be sharing some of his personal journey as an educator and mentor to many

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students.

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As always, this podcast will not be possible without the hard work and support of our international

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student production team.

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All music and sound effects are courtesy of Pixabay.com, a vibrant community of creatives

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sharing copyright free images, videos and music.

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And we are signing off until next time.

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Be your Students Incorporated, because your voice matters.

