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All right, good morning. My name is Gregg. I am

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one of the pastors here at the house. Thanks

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so much for joining us today. If I've never met

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you, I'd love to meet you, and I'd love to maybe

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buy you a coffee or something like that, hear

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your story. Feel free to put that on your connection

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card at the end of the service, and I'll make

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sure to follow up with you and set that up. We

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are in the second week of a three -week series

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that we're calling Follow Me, because Jesus said,

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follow me. So last week we talked about how Jesus'

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first disciples that he called and said, follow

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me, were drastically different. You had the fishers

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working with their hands, covered in the odor

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of fish in the Sea of Galilee, and then you had

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a tax collector that smelled like other people's

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money. So how did Jesus fit those people together?

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When you read the chapters, the four plus chapters

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between when you meet the first four and that

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fifth, you see all the moments where Jesus was

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teaching those fishers all the things that they

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would need to know about how to accept that fifth

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disciple. Maybe we should start with, you know,

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just a tag for last week's sermon, which would

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be who's your fifth disciple? You've got a group

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of people around you that you're like, ah, these

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are my people. Who's your fifth disciple? Who's

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the person that you need to learn a bunch from

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Jesus in order to know how to accept and to love?

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Now, week two, we're going deeper into the journey,

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deeper into the timeline of Jesus' ministry.

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And where we are reading from today, by the time

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you get to this point, Jesus has amassed crowds.

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of people. Thousands and thousands of people

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are coming to listen to him all at one time in

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one place. And they're actually following him

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around from place to place. One day when they

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find Jesus on the other side of the lake, he

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fed 5 ,000 and then they wake up the next day

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and he's not there anymore. So they literally

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go to the other side of the lake to find where

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he has gone. Because they like the things that

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he was saying. They like the way that he was

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serving them, caring, about them, performing

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miracles. But in this case, when they find him,

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Jesus doesn't say something about teaching them

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how to accept. Here's a hard thing I'm going

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to say so you know how to accept others. Instead,

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this time, he says something that was hard for

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them to accept about how to accept him. With

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that, let's open up our Bibles to John chapter...

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John chapter 6, it goes Matthew, Mark, Luke,

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John, Acts, Romans. John is in what's called

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the New Testament or the Second Testament, and

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there are Bibles on the tables, or you can download

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a digital Bible from any of the app stores. If

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you don't have a Bible, feel free to take one

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of those blue ones home, or even just grab one

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off the bookshelf out in the lobby and take that

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home with you. It's our gift to you. We're happy

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for you to have it. We're going to be in John

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chapter 6, and we have a tradition around here

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of giving the scriptures our full attention while

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they're being read in the context of a sermon.

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You can do that any way that you see fit, but

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if you would like to join me in standing as you

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are able, let's do that as I read. John 6, starting

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in verse 51. I am the living bread that came

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down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread

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will live forever, and the bread that I will

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give for the life of the world is mine. The Jews

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then disputed among themselves, saying, How can

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this man give us his flesh to eat? So Jesus said

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to them, Very truly I tell you, unless you eat

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the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood,

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you have no life in you. Those who eat my flesh

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and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will

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raise them up on the last day, for my flesh is

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true food and my blood is true drink. Those who

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eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me and

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I in them. Let's jump to verse 66. Because of

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this, many of his disciples turned back and no

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longer wanted or went about with him. So Jesus

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asked the twelve, Do you also wish to go away?

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Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom can we

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go? You have the words of eternal life. We have

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come to believe and know that you are the Holy

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One of God. Let us pray. God of every tribe,

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every tongue, every color. every nation and people.

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We thank you for the scriptures that they have

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persisted throughout the millennia, that we still

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have them to learn from, to consider, to be led

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by. I pray that whatever you have for us to learn

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today, pray that it would stick, that it would

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become a part of the framework of our faith as

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we become more like your son, Jesus. Amen? Amen.

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Y 'all have a seat. Thanks. I'm guessing if we

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pulled the room and asked every single person

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in this room what I was about to say that none

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of you would get it right. Because it's not the

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kind of thing that you would expect a pastor

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to say. The first thing I want to say is Christianity

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is weird, y 'all. Christianity is weird. Some

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of us have been around church so long. We have

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heard the phrase, eat my flesh and drink my blood,

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so many times that we have forgotten that that

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is not a normal thing to ask someone to do. We're

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used to it. We know that it's a metaphor. We

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know that he's talking about a spiritual concept.

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We know that it's connected to what he would

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do on the cross and in his resurrection. But

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if you do not know all of that, it makes about

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as much sense as eating a Tide Pod for clicks

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on TikTok. It does not make any sense. It is

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weird. It is not palatable. It does not sound

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safe. I mean, do you boil it for safety first?

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How exactly do we go about this? It makes no

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sense. And it didn't make any sense to the people

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that were following Jesus when he said it. That's

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why so many people stopped following him that

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day. I also want to say it would be a misnomer

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or a misunderstanding to think that the people

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that stopped following him that day were just

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marginal followers that were just there every

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now and again. When you read it, it says many

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of his what? Disciples stopped following him

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that day. There is a misunderstanding that Jesus

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only had 12 disciples. He had 12 primary disciples.

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He had many people that were considered disciples.

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In other books, he sends out 70 disciples at

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a time. Depending on which version you're reading,

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70 or 72, he had many people that consider themselves

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disciples. And these people heard what he said,

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and they could not. Accept it. Why is that? I

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think partly because of something that we still

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struggle with today. And that is knowing when

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Jesus is being literal and when Jesus is being

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figurative. Knowing when Jesus says, it's better

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for you to cut off your arm, knowing that he's

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being figurative. He's not asking you to actually

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go and cut off your arm. He's telling you to

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take it so seriously that this is the metaphor

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that I am going to use. Now, it wasn't just the

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people that were following him that day that

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struggled to understand that he was using metaphor

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or struggled to understand the metaphor when

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they would first hear it. There's actually some

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research to suggest that people continue to misunderstand

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this for centuries. According to Dr. David Castle,

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says this, a complaint of Roman critics of Christianity

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was this. They thought Christians were involved

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in bizarre and terrible religious rituals that

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included eating flesh. In other words, they heard

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rumors about these secret gatherings where Christians

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would eat the body and drink the blood of their

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leader. And so rumors would begin about, I think

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they're vampires. I think they might be cannibals.

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And why wouldn't they think that? It's weird.

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And I do not blame people. And we should not

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blame people when they don't get it without all

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of the other explanation. I don't blame people

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now, and I don't blame people then for not getting

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it. Because I think that is kind of the point

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of what Jesus is doing in this moment. One of

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the reasons that Jesus is doing this is to say

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something so jarring to see who is willing to

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get it. So last week, Jesus started with zero

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disciples, and we see him calling the drastically

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different. This week, he's got plenty of followers,

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plenty of disciples. Thousands are showing up

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to see him, but now he's finding out who is curious

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enough, hungry enough. to hear a drastic and

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difficult call and stay. He wants to know, are

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they coming for the food? Are they coming for

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the miracles? Are they coming to hear him talk

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about how they're actually, oh, the poor shall

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inherit the earth. They're coming to hear about

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how the group of people that they're in are better,

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and oh, all these rich people and these people,

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oh, there are, oh, are you guys, anyone in a

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circle, I hope they're listening. Is that why

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they're there? Or can they hear a difficult word

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and continue to follow? Because this message

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was a difficult word. Now maybe you've heard

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of cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance

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is that uncomfortable feeling that your brain

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gets. It's a real feeling. Your brain feels discomfort

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when what you have always believed crashes into

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something that's new information that contradicts

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what you always knew. Our brains do not like

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that dissonance. Our brains do not like having

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a set belief that we're sure of, and then we

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get new evidence or new information, and our

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brain has to decide, like, how do I justify that?

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How do I fit it in to maintain what I already

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believe? We do not like to feel like what we

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know, what we were sure about is getting pushed

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around. It's like when you live with someone

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and you worked all day. and then maybe they work

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a different shift than you, or they had the day

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off, and you come home, and they completely rearranged

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the kitchen. I don't know if that's ever happened

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to you. Cindy has this fun thing that she does.

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She'll joke with me about how, like, wouldn't

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it be nice to have the couch over there? And

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I'll be like, oh, yeah, maybe. And then I'll

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come home the next day, and it'll just be done.

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Maybe you've... No, and it's amazing. It always

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works out well. But let's say you came home and

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someone moved around everything in the kitchen.

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You're looking at it and you're going, okay,

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maybe you want to hold out the possibility that

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maybe this is better. Maybe this is a good thing.

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You're like, oh, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

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The milk should probably be in the door of the

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fridge instead of behind the vegetables. It's

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always a pain to, okay. I guess the cups should

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be in the cupboard right there next to the sink.

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That makes a lot of sense. But then you start.

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wondering and almost panicking, where did they

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put my favorite spoon? Where's my favorite spoon?

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Will you guys stop pretending that you don't

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have a favorite spoon? I know you have a favorite

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spoon. We all have a favorite spoon. And then

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you notice that the blender isn't on the counter

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anymore, and they put the blender in the pantry,

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and you're thinking, why would they put the blender

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in the pantry? Don't they know that I use that

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at least every month? Why would they put that

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away? Because it's ugly. For the crowd in January

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6th. I'm sorry. For the crowd in John 6th. Take

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that for what it's worth. Jesus' words aren't

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just moving the milk or the spoon. They're gutting

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the plumbing. What Jesus is saying isn't just

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putting the blender in the pantry. It's actually

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pulling out the electrical lines. The cognitive

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dissonance that they would have felt was drastic

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and difficult. So they say to Jesus, Moses gave

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us manna bread every single day. What sign do

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you have? And Jesus' answer was to push them.

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He says, I am the bread of life. You can have

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me. You can have this flesh. You can have this

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blood. And if you eat this flesh and this blood,

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then you will have more than Moses could ever

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have given to you. And they're thinking, who

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is this guy to say that he has something better

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than Moses? Moses was venerated. Moses was honored.

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Moses was cherished. He had led them out of Egypt.

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How dare you say that you have something better

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than Moses? Who does this guy think he is saying

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something as weird as eat my flesh and drink

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my blood? If you've never heard anything like

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that, how do you process that? Then consider

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that in their context, in their religious law,

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that it would have immediately been rejected,

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the concept that you could eat human flesh or

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drink blood. Religiously, it would have been

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rejected. So it's not just weird. It feels wrong.

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It feels offensive. It feels like it's against

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their religious law. The cognitive dissonance

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is off the charts. And it feels like Jesus is

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just breaking everything that they knew about

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God. The sink has not been torn off the wall.

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The fridge isn't just moved. The fridge is outside

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on the porch. And the sink is in the tub. So

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because of this, it says in verse 66, many of

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his disciples turned back and no longer went

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with him. They'd seen the miracles. They had

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eaten the bread and fish that he had multiplied

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just one day before. Some of them had been healed

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in their bodies. Some of them had felt forgiven

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for the first time in their life. But this was

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too much. It was too far. It didn't matter how

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much good they'd seen, how much good they'd experienced.

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It took one moment, one teaching, one drastic

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and... difficult word. Now something that I find

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truly special about the scriptures is that the

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idea that you can read something from 2 ,000

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years ago and that it seems to still express

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the human experience that we have now. Don't

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we feel the same things? Don't we? have moments

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where we wonder, is this too difficult? Is this

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too drastic? Is this too uncomfortable? Don't

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we say, I like the sink where it is, Jesus? Maybe

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Jesus has something to say to you. Maybe he has

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already said something to you in the scriptures,

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in your prayers, through someone here in this

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room, or dare I say, Maybe he said something

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to you through the church that you used to go

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to, but it was too drastic, it was too difficult.

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How often, instead of enduring the difficult

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and uncomfortable, do we just move on to something

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else, to someone else? So Jesus says to his closest

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disciples, do you wish to go away as well? And

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Peter, you've got to love Peter. Peter says,

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Lord, to whom else could we go? For you have

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the words of eternal life. I think a truly difficult

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question to answer in this life is how can we

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be more like Peter? Because it's scary to be

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like Peter. If you read these stories in the

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book of Matthew instead of the book of John,

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it says that just that early morning, the day

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before the 5 ,000, and then it says that they

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were on the lake. And in the book of Matthew,

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it says that Peter did what? He got out of the

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boat and he walked on water with Jesus. Peter

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is the kind of guy that, Jumps first, asks for

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a parachute later. Peter seems to be the kind

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of person that acts on impulse. I imagine if

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you said that to him, he would call it faith.

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So I think when Jesus said, eat my flesh and

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drink my blood, Peter wasn't afraid. to be full

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of this bread and wine because Peter was already

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full of faith. He had decided, I believe. And

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because I believe, one messy metaphor won't scare

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me away. One drastic or difficult call cannot

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overcome me. Because of everything else that

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I believe. A misunderstanding cannot change that

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I believe in Jesus. For whatever reason, only

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one person in this room will know these names.

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But this made me think of Tim Fiscus and Danny

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Gordon. My dad knows those names. The church

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that I grew up at. Tim Fiscus was one of the

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Sunday school teachers from my high school class.

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And Dan Gordon was my best friend. And Dan is

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someone that had grown up as the child of a missionary

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in Papua New Guinea. And he had come back around

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junior high, beginning of high school, to kind

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of go to high school in America. And Danny was

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like, and he lives in California now. He is,

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imagine surfer kid. That was Danny. We would

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skate together and just have fun. We would play

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pool, try and write songs. And we're in Sunday

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school one day, and Tim Fiscus is doing a little

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bit of apologetics. Apologetics is like the defense

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of Christianity. And he says, well, what are

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you guys going to do someday when someone says,

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you know, this Bible, this is just a bunch of

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fairy tales. And he looks at Danny and goes,

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Danny, what are you going to do? And he goes,

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I believe in fairy tales, man. Danny was full

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of faith. He had this sense that it doesn't mean

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I'm going to ignore things or my beliefs aren't

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going to change, but there's something inside

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of me that tells me that God is real. So it's

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important for us to understand that faith is

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not the absence of tension. Faith is not the

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absence of dissonance. Faith is the decision

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to believe in the tension. Because sometimes

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Jesus is going to give you real bread and real

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fish. And sometimes he's going to say something

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like, you must eat my flesh and drink my blood.

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And you will not understand what he is saying

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in the moment. And only you can decide if you

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will take and eat even when you do not. As I

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close, I added this to my notes because I was

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just reminded of a book in the Old Testament

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called Ezekiel. Ezekiel is a book to the people

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of God while they were in exile. They had lost

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their land. They were under Babylonian rule.

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and Ezekiel is meant to be the voice of God to

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the people. And it says that he's having a vision

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of God and what God wants him to say. And there's

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this moment where it says that God puts these

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scrolls before Ezekiel. And Ezekiel looks at

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it, and the scrolls are covered with lament.

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And sorrow. They're the saddest words you could

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think of to say to the people. It says that God

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said, take each of these scrolls and speak these

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words to my people. It just reminds me a little

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bit of Jesus asking someone to take something

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that you wouldn't normally put in your mouth.

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Ezekiel in this vision. He hears God say, here,

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take these scrolls that are filled with sadness

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and eat them. And he says, and so I opened my

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mouth and I ate the scrolls and they tasted as

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sweet honey. I just felt like I was supposed

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to say that. Sometimes there's a drastic call.

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There's a difficult word. Sometimes God will

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open a scroll in front of you of what he'd like

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you to do, and all you see on it is sadness.

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And it looks so hard. But if you will open your

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mouth and receive what God has for you, I believe

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that it will taste as sweet as honey. Let us

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pray. Jesus, we thank you for the work that you

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have done, all the things that you have taught

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us. I pray that little by little, maybe even

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all at once, that we will open ourselves to what

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it is you are saying to us, that we will hear

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the call to follow me, that we will take and

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eat. That we will be filled with faith so that

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no one moment of tension can tear us away from

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you. Amen? Amen.
