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Hi, I'm Hillary Walsh, a serial entrepreneur, award-winning immigration lawyer, law professor,

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TEDx speaker, and raving Phoenix Suns fan.

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Over the past decade, I've helped thousands of immigrants live free in the United States.

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I'm talking work permits, social security numbers, green cards, their citizenship, VAWA,

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T-visa, U-visa, and lots of successful appeals.

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Here's the thing.

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Immigration law is super complicated and legal advice?

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Well, it can be pretty expensive.

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So I created the Immigration Law Made Easy podcast to share my 10 plus years of experience

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with you for free.

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So if you're looking for tried and true, no BS, step-by-step strategies and tips on how

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to win your immigration case and live truly free in the United States, you're in the right

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place, my friend.

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Let's get started.

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Hey friend, I'm so excited to introduce you to the substance, the muscles, the show me

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the money, where's the beef part of our Immigration Law Made Easy podcast.

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Today's very first nuts and bolts.

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Here's the no BS conversation about what are the consequences?

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What are immigration consequences that might arise at the time of entering the United States?

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I think that there's so much to cover here that it was hard for me to keep this episode

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short, but the tips and tricks inside of this episode really shape how I want you to start

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thinking about immigration law.

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And this is what makes it easy, which is always ask more, no more assumptions.

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The key one is the very first tip I talk about, which is a lot of people think that they entered

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the country illegally.

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In left and right, I help people see that you didn't enter illegally.

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You didn't enter without inspection.

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You actually entered legally and here's how I'm going to say that again.

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You actually entered legally and here's how.

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Enjoy.

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Hey friend, and welcome to another episode.

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I'm so happy you're here today.

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We're going to talk about some stuff that I know has been on your mind.

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If you have ever entered the country or perhaps you're coming to the country as an immigrant

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and you want to make sure that you don't make any mistakes as we go along the way, or perhaps

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you're already here in the U S and you know that something's happened at the border or

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maybe you want to leave and come back and want to make sure that you're all good.

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But today's podcast episode is specific for all the things that can go wrong.

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All the consequences of our actions intentional or not at the point of entry.

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So that's whether it's at the airport you're coming in, you're flying in at JFK airport

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or maybe you're coming into San Diego.

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If you are walking, let's say you're at the bridge in Douglas, Arizona and you're wanting

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to walk across the bridge or perhaps you are you're driving.

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So maybe it's supportive entry and you're coming from Canada or you're coming from Mexico

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and you're driving and you're wanting to enter the U S. So everything that kind of goes on

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right then and there.

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So let's get to it.

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One of the most common questions that we get are, you know, I came to the U S and I entered

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without permission or entered illegally or I came walking to the U S. This is really

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for a lot of my clients who are from Mexico, from Central America, a lot of clients from

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South America, Brazil, especially, and also Haiti and Cuba.

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A lot of folks really from the Southern hemisphere.

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When we go south of the U S border, a lot of people are here in the U S and they entered

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the U S and they believe they entered without permission.

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And my first question is always as a lawyer is to challenge that and to think, did you

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really enter without inspection is the legal term.

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You might hear it as e we that is entered without inspection.

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The acronym for that is E W I. And so an immigration law, we say e we, many people think that that's

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actually that's their case when in fact it's not because if you, for example, you may have

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been in a car and you were waved through by an immigration officer, this happens every

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single day.

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It really happened a lot in the nineties and early two thousands.

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So if you were a kid asleep in the back of a car or perhaps mom and dad were driving

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or auntie or uncle were driving the car and they told you, close your eyes, look like

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you're asleep.

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And they drove the car through because they showed their U S passport and you were in

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the back of the car and no one ever asked you any questions.

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You did not necessarily enter illegally.

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If I were your lawyer, I would ask a lot of questions to find out if perhaps you were

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caught what's called waved through and you can just imagine it where it's an immigration

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officer literally waving you through.

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Those are called wave throughs and there's a little bit more to it, but I just want to

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plant the seed in your mind that just because we think or we've been told or we've always

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thought that we entered illegally or we entered without inspection doesn't necessarily mean

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that's the case.

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So that's a wave through you and that can happen even in the airport.

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You know, you could have gotten waved through at an airport.

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It's less common just because the procedure, anytime you go through customs and border

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patrol in the U S it's pretty regulated where, um, at, at the border, especially our Mexican

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border, they have such a volume of traffic that if you're in the car and they see you

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and they don't ask you any questions or they ask someone else in the car questions about

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you and the other person answers and you're waved through.

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I mean, a lot of times that's kind of a textbook wave through again, this isn't legal advice

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like for your specific case.

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I want to make sure that I stress that because as a lawyer, I want to make sure that I give

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you good advice, but know that I am not your lawyer.

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I am a lawyer.

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So I don't know your specific facts, but that in my experience would be a classic wave through

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situation.

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This is very different than if you're in the back of a semi and we hear about this all

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the time.

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It's really tragic when this sort of thing happens and things go wrong.

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Um, but if you're in the back of a semi truck and you're waved through because the border

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patrol officer talks to the semi driver, but waves everyone else through, that's not a

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wave through that's being smuggled into the United States or possibly trafficked into

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the United States.

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But that is not what I would consider a wave through on those exact facts.

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There's always more to explore, but I'm just giving you the quick and dirty on this.

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That's a wave through.

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Let's talk about what's called a key Lonton entry.

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He Lonton is the name of the board of immigration appeals case that established that these,

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that what I'm about to describe to you are considered lawful entries.

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So wave through is a lawful entry, but we also have where someone can be coming to the

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U S and it's a normal course of entry.

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And we see this a lot where back in the day, people would be able to walk through immigration

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and be like, I'm just going through, or just crossing the border to go over there, to go

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to that grocery store.

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And there was no formal process for being asked about it, but it was very common.

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The immigration knew that people from one town on the southern side of the border would

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be going to another key Lonton entry in a wave through a really similar and can.

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Oftentimes be considered the same thing and no one's wrong in doing that, but just know

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that if you're going through a normal place, the immigration knows that you're there again,

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I would put on my lawyer hat and think, I'm going to look at this key Lonton case and

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you can Google it and see what the things are that you kind of need to check the boxes

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on and prove to show that you have this lawful entry.

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But can I argue that this person does in fact have a lawful entry?

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Because once you have a lawful entry that removes the negative immigration consequences

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of entering without inspection or entering illegally.

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So that's always the first place to start.

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When you think I entered illegally or my family member entered without permission or they

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went walking.

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I've had cases where, you know, we have someone who's walked across the border.

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They went on a footbridge into the U S but it was a lawful entry.

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So just because we think I came walking, um, don't count that out as a lawful entry.

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It could very possibly be a lawful entry and you can read up about those things.

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Um, we'll include some links in the show notes for you.

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So you can kind of go straight to the case and, and get your hands on that information.

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So the first question when we think about it is, did this person actually enter without

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inspection?

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Did they enter e-whee?

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If you came walking through the desert and it's, you know, a back road path where you

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never interacted with immigration officials, then yeah, I would say that's a pretty classic

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textbook case of having entered without inspection.

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If you entered in the back of a car, you probably, uh, like in the trunk or something like that,

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that is probably going to be regarded either as trafficking, smuggling, or an entry without

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The next, um, question I have a lot of consequences for things that happen that are important

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for folks who enter with a visa.

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Now you can enter with your visa with someone else's visa or passport.

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You can enter with a U S citizens documents, driver's license, passport, those types of

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Um, and then you can also, um, have come to the border and just basically lied about who

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you are and asked to come in and you can be led in that way.

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And there are consequences for those things.

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So let's kind of go through each of those.

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So if I'm entering with a visa and it is my visa, for example, it's very common for Mexicans

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to have what's called a border crossing card.

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And this is just, it's, it's a car that looks like a driver's license and you can come and

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go with that card rather than having to get your whole passport out, having all of these

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stamps all over in your passport.

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It just doesn't really make sense when you can use a card, come and go.

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And those were really commonly issued really through the nineties.

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Um, and before that, so they're not as commonly issued now.

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A lot of times you'll just get a sticker in your passport, uh, your Mexican passport and

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you come and go on that visa and it's issued for like 10 years and you have multiple entries

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on it.

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Um, and you're good to go with it that way.

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So whether you're entering with a border crossing card because you are Mexican or, um, because

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you're entering on a visa because you've gotten the sticker in your passport, or if you're

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one of our Canadian friends and you just have to show your passport, if it's your document

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and you're entering with it, you're good to go.

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So the only question I would ask though is have you overstayed?

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Did you come into the U S and overstay?

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And I'll give you an example of this in a case that we actually ran into, um, that kind

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of got complicated, got a little bit sideways.

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And I want to make sure that you learn from all of our hard cases because I, I'm sure

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that they are popping up all over the place.

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Here's one of those cases.

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We have a 40 to 50 year old Mexican man who he always had a tourist visa and he always

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made sure to keep that tourist visa, um, current.

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He didn't want to let it expire.

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You know, you'll have the visa and it will say, you know, it's issued on such and such

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date and expires on such and such date.

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And so many people, even when they're here in the United States and they've built a life

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here, they feel like having a current visa provides them some type of protection, even

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if they've been here for five, six, seven years after they entered with that visa.

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And I want to tell you that that is not the case.

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A visa, whether it's expired or not, does not matter.

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A visa does not give you any protection.

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It does not help you in any way other than to show that you lawfully entered the country,

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however long ago when you got here, it of course provides you protection.

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If you're within the amount of time that that visa allows you to stay, which for most Mexican

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visas is six months.

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A lot of people from around the world get a three month tourist visa.

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here for a three month period.

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But if you overstay that three months, let's say you enter in January and it's April, it

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doesn't matter whether your tourist visa has expired or not because you have already overstayed

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your permission to be here in the country for the amount of time that you were allowed

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to enter with.

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So I'll go back to my story about my 40 to 50 year old Mexican man.

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He entered in the early nineties with this tourist visa and then 10 years later, his

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visa was about to expire.

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So he left the country, went to Ciudad Juarez, renewed his tourist visa and then reentered

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with the new one.

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So now he had a new tourist visa because he thought that would give him some protection

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and just some peace of mind.

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What that actually did though was create this whole can of worms that he opened up unknowingly

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because he didn't talk to an immigration lawyer or tune into a podcast like this.

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So let's learn from this mistake.

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Because he had overstayed his tourist visa for more than a year, when he left, he triggered

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what's called the 10 year bar, which means you're supposed to stay outside the U S for

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10 years before requesting to come in.

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That 10 year bar is issued that is triggered.

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It goes up when you leave.

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It does not go up while you're here in the U S it goes up behind you as the door of the

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United States closes behind you.

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So when he left, he triggered the 10 year bar and then he lied on his tourist visa,

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a renewal by saying that he had not, he had never overstayed being in the United States

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when we know that he'd been here for 10 years and he was really only supposed to be here

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for six months.

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So now he's made a fraudulent fraud or misrepresentation issue on his tourist visa application.

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And then the next problem is when he reentered the United States, he, he used a tourist visa

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and that means he's telling immigration officers, I intend to come in, take me at my word.

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I intend to come into the country for only six months because that's what his tourist

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visa allowed him to come in for.

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When in reality he had children here, he had a spouse here, he had a whole family here.

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He'd been here for 10 years and he was coming back to continue living here.

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It was not coming back to be a tourist.

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Immigration regards that as a misrepresentation based on your intent as a tourist.

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So now we have three issues, the 10 year bar, fraud and misrepresentation to an immigration

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official for an immigration benefit to get his tourist visa renewed.

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And then when he reentered, he made a misrepresentation about what his actual intent was by using

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that tourist visa.

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So this causes a lot of problems because then he needs, he wants to adjust his status.

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He wants to get his green card here, but now he needs waivers and we're going to talk about

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waivers a whole lot on this podcast.

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But the key thing to know about waivers is it's great if you don't need them.

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It's not that big a deal.

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If you do need them, you just need a qualifying relative for it and that's where things get

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complicated.

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But we'll save that for another day.

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The way I see so many people trigger these consequences, immigration consequences really

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is by coming in as a tourist and getting married.

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Let's say you get married right away and you had sold your apartment.

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Let's say you lived in Venezuela, you sold your apartment, you come to the U S you get

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married to your U S citizen boyfriend and he petitions for you right away.

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That's wonderful, but it starts to look a lot to immigration officials.

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Like you had a fraudulent intent by entering with your tourist visa.

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Did you really intend to be a tourist or did when you entered or did you really intend

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to kind of trick me?

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You got this tourist visa, so you're going to enter the country and that's where, where

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immigration starts to punish people for what they believe is a fraud or misrepresentation

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at the time of entry.

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So be careful if that's your situation and you're wanting to get married right after

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you get to the United States.

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I may, if you let me know in the comments, I may do a whole episode on like what the

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rules are because there's a 90 day rule and does it apply and what are the, what are the

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things that go along with that?

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And can I, can I show that I really did have immigrant intent?

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We can do a whole episode on that.

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I want your input.

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I want to answer your questions.

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So let me know we're going to move on though, cause we have lots more things to discuss.

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So those are the situations where you have entered with your papers, your visa, and we

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may find ourselves with fraud and misrepresentation issues.

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Let's talk now about what if you enter with someone else's visa?

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So this is super common, especially back when we had so many border crossing cards.

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We, you may even do it with someone's lawful permanent resident card.

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You know, someone might have a green card in the U S and it's like your sister and you're

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trying to get her into the U S from Mexico or something like that.

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So you mail your sister or next time you're with her, you give her your lawful permanent

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resident card for her to enter with you to look a lot of like, et cetera, super common.

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And if this is something that's happened to you or you've used a family member or friend

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or you bought it, however it is that you went about it, no judgment here.

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It's waivable.

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It's not like a criminal offense.

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Um, you know, it's not prosecuted like a criminal offense.

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Uh, so, you know, take that stress out of it.

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If that's what your mom or your dad have done, aunt or uncle, um, you will need a waiver

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though, most likely because you've committed a fraud or misrepresentation at the point

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of entry.

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Just like if you enter with your own tourist visa and you intend to overstay and you've

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committed fraud or misrepresentation, either case, you're going to need a waiver, um, for

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this fraud or misrepresentation.

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The one big snag, and you want to be really careful with this is if you've used someone's

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U S birth certificate, their order, U S passport.

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Now driver's licenses, like an Arizona driver's license, you don't need to be a U S citizen

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in order to get an Arizona driver's license.

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So let's say you use an Arizona driver's license, that doesn't mean that you have claimed to

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be a U S citizen.

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You'll just like that.

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Those are really, as an immigration lawyer, I always start to get really my ears perk

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up where it's like, Ooh, this could be complicated.

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And it's called a false claim to U S citizenship.

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And even with this, there are still exceptions to the rule.

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That's the thing about the law.

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There's very few situations where it's like black or white in the law.

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We deal in this space where there's so much gray and all these different exceptions and

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all these different paths.

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Remember at the beginning of this podcast, I was like, Hey, did you enter with or without

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inspection and the answer should be, well, I don't know.

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Let's talk about it because maybe I was waved through.

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Maybe, um, my family member said, maybe it wasn't even way through.

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My family member just said that I was a U S citizen.

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Is that a false claim to U S citizenship?

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Not if you didn't make it.

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So there are always exceptions to the rule.

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So if your heart kind of sinks because you're like, Oh yeah, um, my mom entered with her

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sister's U S birth certificate.

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Like what do I do?

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And I would say that's going to be a really hard case.

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I'm sorry to say, but I would want to ask a lot of questions about what timeframe that

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was because the bars for us, um, false claims to U S citizenship, they only apply at certain

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times and we can Google that again, if we want to, we'll probably do a whole episode

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on this, but from a 30,000 foot view, just know that if you entered with someone else's

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paper, the papers is going to be the rule of thumb here.

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Um, if you entered with someone else's papers, it's waivable in almost every single situation,

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except if they're U S citizen proof of U S citizen docs.

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So like a U S passport or a U S birth certificate, you can't waive that, but you can argue that

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there's an exception to the rule.

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Waveable would be admitting I did this exception to the rule would be, I may have done this,

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but there are these other things that mitigate it, which means it, it shouldn't, it shouldn't

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be the black mark on my case anymore.

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Okay.

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So those are, if you enter with someone else's stuff, now what happens if you bring other

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people's children in your kids, someone else's kids, um, there are different consequences

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if you are a U S citizen versus if you are an immigrant.

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So if you're a U S citizen, it doesn't, if you have brought people into the United States,

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um, that are, that, that didn't have permission to enter the U S let's say you're a U S citizen

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and you drive your nieces and nephews, three of your nieces and nephews across the border

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and tell the border patrol that they're your children.

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If you are not criminally prosecuted for this, like let's say you're not caught, um, there's

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no immigration consequence for you.

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You're not going to like you lose your citizenship.

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You're not going to get in trouble in terms of immigration law.

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And in fact, you can even like, you don't even lose your ability to petition for someone

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else in the future.

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There really is no consequence for you on the immigration law side of things.

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Of course it could like damage your credibility and that sort of thing.

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Um, but in terms of your rights as a U S citizen, to be able to petition for people and vote

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and all of that, it doesn't impact it.

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You could get in trouble criminally if you are caught, um, but you know, for, for human

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trafficking or smuggling, I know here in Arizona, they're trying to pass a statute that says

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it doesn't matter really who you are, even if they're your own children, if you're bringing

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someone in, we're going to criminally prosecute you for human trafficking.

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So it's not the existing law right now, but it has been in talks, um, here in Arizona

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specifically.

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So there can be criminal consequences if you're a U S citizen and you're bringing people to

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the United States without permission.

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And they can be very severe, even if they're your family member.

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But if you're undocumented or you are a lawful permanent resident, or if you're just someone

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who is here on a tourist visa, whatever it may be, if you're bringing, if you've brought

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your kids, like your biological or step children, and that's like a legal term, um, under immigration

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law.

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So, you know, you're married stepchildren would be you're married to the kids, mother

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or father before the child turns 18.

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Um, so those would be stepchildren.

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If that's the case and you've brought them, then we can waive that.

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Like you can get a waiver for this, but if they're someone else's children and you're

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caught doing this, you pretty much, there's no waiver for it.

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It's extremely like how I mentioned a minute ago, it's really, really frowned upon.

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Um, so be very cautious.

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And if, if that's the situation where your family member, like I have a client, for example,

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who she brought her daughter, um, to the United States when the daughter was an infant, she

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should be very cautious before going to the mom.

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She'd be very cautious before going to Ciudad Juarez in Mexico to consular process because

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she's going to get hit with an alien smuggling ground of inadmissibility once she goes to

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that interview.

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So these are things to really look out for.

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And again, there's all these immigration consequences that happen at the point of entry.

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You can even kind of get in trouble.

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Um, if you're just on the receiving and coordinating end of, of air quote, alien smuggling, I hate

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the word alien.

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No one's an alien here.

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You know, we're all brothers and sisters and human beings, but in immigration law, it's,

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it's regarded as alien smuggling.

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So this is just something to keep in mind that if it's not your immediate family member,

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like your kid or your spouse, um, you know, this is a really big problem in immigration

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law and it's something to be taken very seriously.

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I hope this is helpful.

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Um, the last thing that I want to touch on.

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I hope this is helpful and not, not to immigration lawyer.

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Please ask me follow up questions because I want to make sure that I answer your questions.

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I want to talk to you briefly about what happens if I am re entering.

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So I described for you the 40 to 50 year old Mexican man when he left, he'd been here for

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over a year.

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So when he left, he triggered the 10 year bar.

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If you're here without permission or you overstay for more than six months, but less than a

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year, um, you are going to trigger the, if it's over six months, but less than one year,

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it's going to be the three year bar.

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So those are the two ways that you can trigger these different bars and they're when you

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leave.

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Now, when you re enter, let's say that you trigger the 10 year bar, I'll give specific

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facts because I find that to be easier to work with really common fact pattern.

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Um, and you'll notice that I talk about Mexicans, Guatemalans, um, so very much because that's

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the main client base that I serve here in Arizona, um, Kansas, Oklahoma, even up in

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Vegas where we serve a lot of people.

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That's our most common client base because of our location.

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And because all of our staff is bilingual in English and Spanish, so it just makes sense.

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But so let's use this fact pattern.

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We have, let's say Maria is 35 years old.

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She came to the U S in the late nineties, um, without permission.

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Okay.

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Late nineties came without permission.

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And then 10 years later, she returned to Mexico because her mom was sick and she wanted to

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see her mom always really heartbreaking cases.

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We see them all the time where it's like, you know, that you can't leave because you

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know, there's some type of immigration consequence, but mom's sick and I don't care.

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I'm going back home and I, I can not imagine being in that situation, but my heart breaks

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because I would go to, okay.

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Um, Maria leaves and then she comes back again, walking across the desert.

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It's a two day walk.

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She hires a coyote.

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She enters and she's not apprehended or anything else.

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Maria's daughter wants to petition for her.

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Her daughter's now, um, you know, 20, I don't know if my age is on Maria is going to add

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up, but pretend that Maria is normal and has now a 21 year old U S citizen daughter.

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She also has a U S citizen husband.

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Both of them want to petition for Maria.

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They want to know how they can help her.

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The problem is, is that when Maria left, she triggered the 10 year bar.

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And when she entered without inspection, when she came back, she triggered the permanent

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bar.

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And when I say triggered, that's fancy lawyer speak.

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It's kind of annoying.

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Sorry, I can't help that I do it.

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That just means it, it initiated it.

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It instigated it.

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It started it like the domino fell for the permanent bar and there's no waving the permanent

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bar outside of very specific case types like VAWA TV set and new visa and asylum.

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Okay.

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So those are like your four main ways to wave the permanent bar.

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So Maria is going to be in a tough position because the permanent bar means that you are

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barred from getting any immigration benefit, like a green card, unless you spend 10 years

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outside the United States.

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So Maria is kind of stuck.

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She is really, really stuck unless we can help her with VAWA, a U visa, a TV, so our

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asylum.

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Okay.

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So these are all very common things.

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I mean, we deal with this all day, every single day.

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So if you have questions, please reach out to us.

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You can email us at info at new frontier.us or just come find us on social.

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We are all over social at new frontier immigration law on Instagram.

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We're new frontier immigration law on Facebook and then obviously on YouTube as well.

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We want to help solve your problems.

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We want to make immigration law easy for you.

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And I hope that this is a helpful way for you to see that, yes, this is complicated,

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but I can do anything.

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Even if it's complicated, I can figure this out.

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We will spend more time talking about other immigration consequences.

455
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And hey, if you are interested in immigration reform, my, one of my dreams that I want to

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see before my kids leave the house for college, I've got my oldest are nine.

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So in the next nine years, my vision is that we see all the bars for immigration purposes

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taken away.

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If you enter the U S you leave and you come back like Maria did, she's not permanently

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barred even though she has a U S citizen husband, even though she's got a U S citizen kid over

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the age of 21, she's screwed.

462
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Okay.

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So immigration law is screwing over our families and oftentimes it's just one family member.

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And so you're stuck here in the U S and everybody says they support legal immigration and I

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support legal immigration too, but not when the rules, when, how can things be legal?

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If the rules are impossible to follow or the rules are so, if the punishment doesn't fit

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the crime, you know, law and policy have to make sense within the context of what society

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accepts.

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I no longer accept what was set up in 1996 when all these bars went into place.

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And when I think about all the kids who are in school with my children, they don't have

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a mom or they don't have their dad here in the U S or their mom or dad is here in the

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U S but there's no way for them to legally fix their status.

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So they have a family here, but their papers are unattainable.

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I think this is an unacceptable way of doing business as an American.

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So if you are an advocate and you've heard this and you're like, wow, look at all the

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ways things can go sideways.

477
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I agree.

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Things can go sideways a lot, but the positive thing folks, if you are in the thick of this

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is lawyers are on your side, like find the right person who is going to fight for you

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and figure out a way for your family to make it work.

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Reach out to us if you need us.

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Don't give up hope.

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I think that's the biggest thing to take away is these are consequences, but a lot of them

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we can find exceptions to, we can find waivers for, and I'm literally making fists with my

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hands because I'm like, and then we just got to go to battle.

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We got to have lawyer warrior mentality.

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Thanks so much for joining us.

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And I can't wait to see you again on the next episode.

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The immigration law made easy.

490
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My friend, I'm so glad you joined me today.

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If you have a friend or family member who may need some immigration law guidance or

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even just day to day encouragement, please send them a text or email or a DM on social

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media and say, Hey, I think this podcast is going to help you.

494
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I sure wish someone had given me the tips I'm sharing here years and years ago when

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I was starting out as an immigration lawyer.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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I'll see you next week.

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At the same time.

