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Hi, I'm Hilary Walsh, a serial entrepreneur, award-winning immigration lawyer, law professor,

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TEDx speaker, and Raven Phoenix Suns fan. Over the past decade, I've helped thousands

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of immigrants live free in the United States. I'm talking work permits, social security

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numbers, green cards, their citizenship, VAWA, TV visa, U visa, and lots of successful appeals.

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Here's the thing, immigration law is super complicated and legal advice, well, it can be

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pretty expensive. So I created the immigration law made easy podcast to share my 10 plus years of

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experience with you for free. So if you're looking for tried and true, no BS, step-by-step

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All right, my friends, I hope that you're having a wonderful day. This is Attorney Hilary,

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and I want to talk to you today about the three reasons that a lot of immigrants get stuck in

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CUD Juarez, either short term, you know, for like a few weeks, more long term for a few years,

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or sometimes permanently, because there's no way for them to legally come back in. Along with that,

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I want to share with you ways to avoid that. So this doesn't happen to you or your family member,

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or if you're an attorney listening in, this is a great way for you to avoid this for your clients.

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So I want to start by kind of highlighting what the three things are, the three main issues,

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and then I'm going to go one by one with, you know, what the problem is, I'm going to tell you a

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personal story, kind of a horror story I've heard from other clients because their families are

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contacting me because they have a family member who's stuck abroad, and they need help and how

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I've been able to help them navigate this. And then really the big point of this podcast, this

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lesson, if you will, is I want to teach you the difference between a 601A waiver, which is called

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a provisional waiver, and the rest of the waivers, which are like pardon waivers, they're usually

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filed with a form 601, and you have to get those adjudicated while you're outside the country. So

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I want to really teach what those are. I'm going to start with the heavy stuff first, specific to

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what those waivers are, and then we're going to work through things. So stay with me. This is going

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to be packed with lots of info. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me.

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I'm at New Frontier Immigration Law, and we answer our phones 24 7365 or in 2024, 366 days a year.

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So you can call us at New Frontier Immigration Law, you can Google us, and you'll find us. Okay.

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So what are the three things? Let's jump right into it. What are the three reasons, the most

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common reasons I see people go to CO.Horiz and not be able to come right back? And this is everybody's

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kind of big fear when we talk about doing the process called consular processing,

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is that something is going to go down at the consulate, and my family member is going to get

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stuck there. And I need him or her to be able to come right back. And this also applies if you're

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just doing consular processing and you already live outside of the country. Lots of people think,

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like, okay, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go to the consulate. I finally have my interview. It's

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taken years for me to finally get my interview. And then the process gets extended because of the

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same reasons. So let's talk through them. The first one is there's a ground of inadmissibility.

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So you are applying for a green card. You're asking and on some level, this, this, this episode

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can apply to you even if you're applying for a visa. Okay, you can have grounds of inadmissibility

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related to applying for a visa like a fiance visa or a tourist visa, student visa, lots of things

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like that. But I'm really talking to people who are wanting to get their green card because this

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really is helpful for you in particular. So you're applying for a green card, which means you

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have to be what the US government calls admissible. We want to say that you are allowed to be admitted

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into United States. We're allowed to receive you. You don't have anything that gives you kind of an

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X on your file, which would make you inadmissible. You're not allowed in. So what happens at the

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consulate is you'll go and sometimes you'll already have a ground of inadmissibility. You may not

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know it. Your lawyer may not know it. Hopefully, your lawyer, you've met with them before you leave

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and you and they do tell you, look, this is you have kind of a heads up, you have a ground of

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inadmissibility, you're going to have to file a waiver once you get there. And this is the part of

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this, this episode, I really want to clue you in on. And I may even do a totally separate episode.

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So we can just title it and hopefully be able to help lots of people find it.

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But there are two different types of waivers. One is called a provisional waiver and one's

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just a regular old waiver. What's the difference between these? A provisional waiver helps you

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in its file on form 601A if you have unlawful presence and that's your ground of inadmissibility.

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So you can get your provisional waiver. The reason it's provisional is you get to file it

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while you're already in the United States. So the processing time, the approval, all of that

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will come while you're in the United States. You don't have to risk leaving and then waiting for

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this waiver to get approved and hoping and kind of rolling the dice. You'll already know by the

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time you leave for your appointment for your COD Juarez Consulate appointment, you'll already know

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that your, your unlawful presence waiver has been approved. So you know that that form, that, that,

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that ground of inadmissibility, that basis for them possibly saying, look, I can't give you a

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green card. You'll already know that that's off the table. It's already been approved. It's not

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going to cause you any issues, okay? Because it's already been approved. Now, that's only

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for unlawful presence. So if you have other grounds of inadmissibility, then you have to wait in,

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in this instance, I'm using Ciudad Juarez because so many of my clients are Mexican. And that's where

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you're going to go for your consular processing is Ciudad Juarez. If you have another ground of

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inadmissibility, you're going to have to file that waiver after you get to the consulate in most

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circumstances. Now, there are other circumstances where you don't have to wait to get the notice

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from the consulate. Perhaps you've already gotten the notice at a prior interview, that the reason

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you're getting denied is for this reason, you don't have to get another denial. But what I

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really want to emphasize is this is your first time and you're like, I want to go and I don't want

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to get stuck. What is everything I can possibly do beforehand? I have bad news for you on some level.

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For a regular 601 waiver, if you have other grounds of inadmissibility that are not related to

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unlawful presence to certain time you spent in the United States without permission,

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if it's related to things like alien smuggling, maybe you brought your young children

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to the United States with you when you first unlawfully entered the U.S.

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And now you're trying to correct all that by going through the process, by going to Ciudad Juarez.

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If you have an alien smuggling ground of inadmissibility, you're going to have to wait out

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getting the waiver filed and approved and then rescheduling your interview while you're in Mexico.

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So similarly, if you ever had any fraud or misrepresentation, you're going to have to file

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the 601 waiver after your interview in Ciudad Juarez. So you basically, I'm going to give you

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some examples, some real life examples. So we've had clients who they call us because they've already

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gone to the interview and they didn't know that they were going to have to go through this.

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And they got a denial. I'm going to use a woman's name. It's not her real name,

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but we're going to use the woman's name as Maria. Okay. So Maria is 55 years old. She's been in

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Mexico for three years and her spouse is a lawful permanent resident and he lives in the United

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States. So Maria has applied for, she left voluntarily. She wasn't deported or anything

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like that. She left voluntarily, but it's only been three years. So she has filed and gotten her

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interview for her green card with the consulate and she goes to the interview and the consulate

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finds that she is inadmissible, not only because she hasn't spent the 10 years abroad,

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so she has, she needs to file a 601 waiver for unlawful presence, number one. And number two,

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she admits to the consulate that she brought her daughter to the United States in the 90s.

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So that's an alien smuggling ground of inadmissibility that she has. And she also admits

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that when she first applied for her visa a few years ago, when she was trying to come back about a

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year and a half ago, she put on it on there that she had never been to the United States.

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And so she has a fraud and misrepresentation issue. So she has three grounds of inadmissibility.

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A 601 waiver is going to be all she files for all three of those grounds of inadmissibility,

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which is a good thing. Okay. And because she has a qualifying relative, her lawful permanent

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resident spouse, she's going to be able to get a waiver. And, you know, she also in this, in real

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life, she had a daughter who was like 27 years old, okay, who's a US citizen. So she has all the

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ingredients that are necessary for her to get her green card. But she has to get the denial

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from the consulate first to then be able to file the waiver. The consulate basically has to say,

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yeah, we see that you're eligible for your green card, except for these three things. And we see

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that you're eligible to waive them. But now I need for you to go home, get the waiver together and

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file it, and then I will adjudicate it. And then I can approve, I can make a new decision on your

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green card. So Maria will have to wait in Mexico for that whole time, purely because you can't

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pre adjudicate the consulate can't pre decide waivers for things like alien smuggling,

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or fraud, misrepresentation, or other potential and admissibility grounds like those. Okay.

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Let me give you another example. Juan entered the country when he was 18 years old,

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this was a long time ago. And now he has his dad is also a lawful permanent resident now.

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And Juan wants to consular process. How do I handle this? I go through every single possible

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ground of an admissibility with him to make sure that the only thing he needs is the provisional

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601 a waiver. I determine that he's good to go. I do his fingerprints with the FBI. I do what's

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called a FOIA request, a freedom of information act request with every agency possible to make

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sure that Juan doesn't have any issues. I get all these police certification official letters so that

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when he goes to see that whores, he can show them he has absolutely positively zero criminal history.

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I do all of that homework before I have Juan leave and go to see that whores. I grill him as an

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attorney to make sure that he doesn't have any other issues because I don't want him to get stuck

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there without realizing that he's going to get stuck. It's a totally different experience, I

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believe. If someone knows that they're going to go to see you. Horace for a while, but that they're

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going to eventually, you know, be able to file the waiver and go through all this. What you don't

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want is the surprise. And I think that that's probably the most painful thing for people is the

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surprise of, Hey, you have a ground of it and miss ability and you need to file this waiver. And oh,

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by the way, it's going to take a long time. You're going to have to wait here a long time.

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No one wants that surprise. So in Juan's case, we would do the 601a and we would wait, we would

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file that while he's in the US and we would wait, we would not send him to see it out whores for

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his appointment. We would let the consulate know that we have this waiver pending, hold on to his

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case, don't schedule it just yet. And then after it's approved, then we get the party started and

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we can kickstart all of his consular processing stuff. So we get him in the line to be able to

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go to see you at whores and then, you know, God willing, everything goes correctly there. And he

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comes back, you know, about two weeks later. Okay. So that is the difference between, you know, if

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one also let's just add some facts to his case. If one also had a fraud and misrepresentation

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issue, I would tell Juan, you can file your 601a for your unlawful presence issue now, which is

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good. I'm so happy you can do that now and you can wait and live in the United States

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while that's pending because right now these are taking like almost four years to adjudicate.

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You do not want to be waiting in Mexico for four years when your family is here in the US, right?

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No one wants that situation. You want to be able to live your life like normal. And that's why it's

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called a provisional waiver. They're giving you this provision to be able to file this for unlawful

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presence while you're in the US. And then you can go deal with the rest of your issues from Mexico.

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But those, those 601s do not take that long while you're pending in Mexico. They don't take four

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years. They're unlawful presence ones do take that long, but thank God you're able to do them in the

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US. So in that situation where Juan, I'm like making up a new case for you to follow me on,

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just as an example, I learned through examples, I'm sure you do too, is if Juan has two issues,

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two grounds of an immiscibility, two reasons that the government's going to say, you can't come in,

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like you, you can't do this. You can't get your green card. We're just not allowed to grant it to

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you without waivers. The first being unlawful presence. And the second being fraud and misrepresentation.

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So what he would do is we file the 601a while he's in the US that gets approved. And then we

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send him to see you. Juarez and we tell him, we've got your 601 your waiver for the fraud and

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misrepresentation. We've got it already. Because frankly, we just did it for the, for the 601a,

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they're like going to be the same waiver, right? We just have to file it on a new form. We got to

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pay a new filing fee and it has to get readjudicated. The likelihood of see you. Juarez not approving

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a 601 after they've already, after the US government, the same US government has already

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approved a 601a is like not going to happen unless they find out like that the circumstances have

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changed somehow. But if you got a 601a approved and then six months later, you're in Mexico and now

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it's time to get your 601 approved. It's on the same basis. It's the same reasons. They are very,

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very likely to approve it as well. But still, you got to wait it out while you're in Mexico. So Juan

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would know leaving Arizona where I'm at. He would know going to see Juarez. I'm going to be here

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for a little while because I know that they're going to tell me I need to file this waiver for

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my fraud and misrepresentation issue. That is a very good position to be in. There's no element of

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surprise there, which is awesome. Okay. So you have your inadmissibility grounds where you can't get

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a waiver ahead of time. That's one reason people, number one, get surprised in Mexico, but number

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two, that's one reason they get stuck in pseudo Juarez. And there really is no other way around

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it unless you can find a way to fix all of these issues in the United States. Let me tell you how

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what those options are and you can listen to other podcasts, watch other YouTube videos.

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You can call my office to learn more about them. But those would be through things like 245i,

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through things like a UVSA, TVSA, or through VAWA. Also possibly through asylum, if you have a fear,

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a very, very strong asylum case to be able to file for. That would be, I'm only mentioning that,

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kind of as a very, very, very last option. We always talk to you before you leave the country

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to make sure that you don't have a fear. So I'm not sending you back somewhere where you might be

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harmed, potentially by your own government, because you got to go talk to the government while you're

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there. Okay. So we've now covered the first of the three issues we're going to talk about today.

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The first reason that a lot of people get stuck in pseudo Juarez is they have a ground of an

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immiscibility that you have to file a waiver for. And I will caveat that by saying, if you don't have

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a family member who can help you with this waiver, you're stuck there long term. There's no time limit

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on things like fraud and misrepresentation. There's no amount of time you can just wait it out.

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And it goes away. Unlike unlawful presence, you can just wait out unlawful presence.

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And it will eventually just dissipate. And it's no longer on your record, essentially. But things

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like fraud and misrepresentation, alien smuggling, certain criminal issues, those are with you forever.

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And so if you don't have a basis for getting them waived, my advice would be you have to make a

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really big, you have to make a very informed decision before you go because you may not be

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coming back. And frankly, in those, in some of those circumstances, you wouldn't be coming back,

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not lawfully. Okay. So grounds of an immiscibility. The second issue is criminal issues that the

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consulate finds out about or criminal or other issues that the consulate finds out about during

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the interview. And the third is medical exam issues, things that come up during the medical exam.

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So we've covered in immiscibility. Let's talk about criminal issues briefly, because this is

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like a whole body of law. And I want to just start this by saying this is the highlights.

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This is the trailer for the movie. This is not the whole story. Okay. But a lot of clients will go,

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and I have actually a really recent case where I told the client, do not go. I am not comfortable

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advising you as your attorney to go to your appointment. So this was a gentleman who he

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had with a notario filed for his I-130 through his US citizen wife. And now it was time for him

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to, he had illegally entered to begin with. So he needed to file a 601A waiver. And then he needed

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to go to his consulate appointment in C.O.D. Juarez. And he called us right before his appointment.

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He was about to leave and he was like, I just want to talk to an actual lawyer who can tell me whether

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all this is okay or not. And we said, well, we cannot advise you on whether this is okay or not

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without doing a full kind of criminal scope and making sure that you don't have any criminal history

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and you don't have any other grounds of any immiscibility. Because just like I told you with

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the last example, what we don't want is to send you out of the country and you have a bunch of

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surprises. I don't like surprises. You definitely don't like surprises. And so what did we do?

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We did a full FOIA background check for him. I did his FBI background check as well. And I had him

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go to any of the local police departments that are necessary for him and get letters saying

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certified that he had no criminal history. Well, in his FBI, everybody, all the police records came

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back clean. But in his FBI fingerprint background check, it showed that a long, long time ago,

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he had been charged with statutory rape of having sex with a minor. In Arizona, I think that's

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someone who's 16 or younger. Don't quote me. I'm not a criminal lawyer. We asked him about,

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hey, what is this? And he said, well, I got into trouble for having sex with my wife. I was

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barely a couple years older than her and she was younger and I got into trouble for having sex

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with her. But we're married and she's the basis of my waiver and they ended up throwing the case

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out. The case was dismissed, but I was initially arrested and charged even though the case was

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later dismissed. I did not feel comfortable sending this gentleman to C.Rod Juarez with that

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explanation. And here's why. With any green card application, you need to show that you're

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a person who's deserving of the discretion of the adjudicator to get the green card. So in

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their discretion, they think you're a good enough person to grant a green card. A lot of things go

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wonky with the consulate in C.Rod Juarez. This is not a dig on C.Rod Juarez. This is not anything

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disparaging, but I say wonky because one day it'll be one thing and another day it might be another.

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And as attorneys, we learn about this and we gather data one case at a time.

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And that can be very frightening for individuals, for immigrants who want to go just get their green

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card. So my concern was that he would answer the question at the consulate and explain exactly

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what happened because the consulate is going to see that charge was made and the case was dismissed.

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You would think this would be open and closed, but because it had to do with having sex with a

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minor and he's admitting to having sex with a minor when he was of age, he was very much

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over the age of 18. That made me very concerned that on the ground of discretion, the consulate

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could deny him. And so I had to give him my legal advice. And then of course, he makes his own

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decision. I said, sir, I'm really concerned that this is going to be an issue for you.

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I told him the pros and cons of what may or may not happen. I may just be being very

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very apprehensive or too risk adverse. But if the way I look at these cases is like,

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if this were my dad and my mom and dad have been married for like freaking forever,

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they got married when they were 17. My mom was 17. My dad was 18. My mom's parents had to sign

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consent letter to let her get married because her birthday was like three days later when she

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turned 18, but they wanted to get married on a Saturday. Didn't want to wait until the following

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Saturday. I guess I don't know. I wasn't there. My parents had been married for 45 years though.

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That's so crazy to think of. If my dad needed to go to Mexico, I kind of get emotional to

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thinking about it. My parents are total. I love them, but they're kind of rednecks. Like, they're

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not immigrants at all. Not that immigrants can't be rednecks. But the idea of my dad having to

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leave the country and leave my mom, I'm impossibly not ever get to come back. And my mom needing to

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like sell their home here all by herself and up and move to a country she's not familiar with and

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in a language that she's not familiar with, it would terrify my mom and they're in their 60s.

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You know, this would, this is truly not a feasible option for people like my parents.

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And this client I was working with, he's very close to my parents age. And I just thought,

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if he goes and he gets a denial based on discretion, there's no real appeal of this.

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Like it is, it's not an appealable thing. And what will we do? We could reapply

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and we could reapply and reapply and reapply. But if they just keep saying no,

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then this gentleman is stuck outside the US. And I did not feel comfortable advising him to go for

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it. So I told him, I don't think that you should do this, sir. And, you know, let's look for other

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options. And we were able to find other options that allow him to fix here in the US without

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leaving. But I share that with you to say, there are there are some issues that the consulate can

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look at that even if your case was dismissed, it can still kind of haunt you. And there's no

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removing it from your record. Because you have to, there's a question on the DS260 on your green card

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application that specifically asks, have you ever been arrested for anything, even if you were not

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charged, even if the case was dismissed? Have you ever been arrested? You have to answer that.

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Otherwise, you're lying and now you're creating a fraud and misrepresentation issue. So you have

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to answer that honestly. And so this is going to come out one way or the other, it's going to come

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out in your interview. And you can't take your lawyer with you. Like I can't go explain this on

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your behalf and try to wordsmith this to make it sound not as bad as perhaps it is or to make it sound

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as accurate as it is. So you're really on your own and have to advocate for yourself. And

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you need to talk to a lawyer before. And that's why I'm so thankful that he called us.

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Because we were able to do these extensive background checks and then have a conversation

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with him before he left, because all of us just felt truly like he had dodged a bullet.

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He's disappointed because he thought he was so close all these years. He's been waiting to get

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his green card. And now he has to start a different process. But truly, like I look into my figurative

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immigration crystal ball and I shake it. And I look and say, this is such a better option than

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rolling the dice and possibly getting stuck there forever. Because that's what would happen.

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It freaks me out. Okay, so that's criminal issues that may come up

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with the consulate. And granted, the consulate may be like, okay, yeah, I'm glad I get it. You

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guys shouldn't have done that. But if the police didn't want to charge you with it,

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then who am I to make this something that haunts you for the rest of your life? Off you go. But

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not every consulate's like that. So there we are. Number three, and then we're going to close this

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episode out. The three reasons that you, the people may get stuck in C.J. Juarez. One is grounds

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of inamissibility. Two is criminal issues that may come up that even though they should be not a

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big deal, become a big deal because you have to have the discretion of the consulate to grant

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you the green card. You have to be a person they deem as a good person. Number three is issues that

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come up with a medical exam. So when you fix in the United States, you go to do your medical exam

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here in the US. No problem. We can actually get them to give us two copies of it and we can look at

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it before we even go into your interview, which is something I really love to do. So we get your

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copy, we keep it sealed and we give that to USCIS. We get my copy, I open it and look at it to make

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sure that there are no surprises before your interview and before we submit it. Now, issues that

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have come up, not for my clients, but for other people who have gone to Mexico and they've called

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me and said, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. I just did my interview and this is what they told me

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because of my medical exam. I'm going to talk about two things here that can come up on the

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medical exam. Well, really, I'll talk about three things. One is in this day and age, it's 2024

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when I'm recording this, you have to get the COVID vaccine. So some people get really bothered by

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the idea of getting the COVID vaccine, but it is a requirement in order for you to get your green

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card in this day and age. It may not be at some point in the future, but I sincerely believe

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it's going to be for the foreseeable future. I bet it'll be another 10 years before you're not

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required to get it. Some people, even though they feel like it's a religious issue, even though they

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feel like it's a morality issue, no one should make me do this. I feel very, very bothered by

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getting the COVID vaccine. The waivers for getting the vaccines based on religious or other freedom

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of religion type purposes are just not getting approved. So it's not impossible, but it's nearly

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impossible. So I would say that if you don't want to get the COVID vaccine, you should not get your

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green card right now. There you go. You have a choice to make and you should choose to get the

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vaccine if you want to get your green card and know that if you're going to Mexico, you're going to

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have to get the vaccine while you're in Mexico in order to proceed with your green card interview.

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So if you're someone who's like, absolutely, heck no, I'm not doing this and you're already in Mexico,

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then we have a big problem and you can get stuck in Mexico for that. The more common

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things that come up though with your medical exam are tattoos and alcohol use issues.

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So with tattoos, one of the questions on the green card application is, have you ever basically

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been affiliated with any essentially gang organizations? And if you have any tattoos that

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can look like you were part of a gang or you were affiliating yourself somehow with a gang,

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that can be a really big problem and you should talk to us before you go. So anything like, you

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know, gosh, I'm so not a gangster. 16th Street, I think is a gang. There are and there are other

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gangs like if you get teardrop tattoos and those sorts of things, they're going to, they're going

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to check your body out at the medical exam. So those are going to become very visible.

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Talk to a lawyer before you go, send text to picture to your lawyer, obviously with their

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consent. So they know what they're looking at before, before he or she opens up the picture,

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especially depending on where it's at on your body. But you're going to want to have legal advice

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on whether this tattoo is an issue. And if it is, we got to have a conversation before you go to

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Mexico. You do not want to be at the doctor's office in Mexico and being like, oh, crap. Now I

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got to explain what this is and hope that they believe me. We don't want that. The most common

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medical related issue though is alcohol use. So one of the questions on the green card application is,

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are you, are you a habitual drunkard? Are you someone who regularly gets drunk? There's not a

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lot of case law and a lot of input on what habitual drunkard is. But what I will say is that

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you want to be really thoughtful about how you answer the doctor's questions with how much do

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you drink? Because even getting drunk every single Friday night, maybe it's just one night a week,

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could be considered being a habitual drunkard. Having three or more drinks per day,

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even if they are spread out over the course of the entire day, could be considered to be a habitual

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drunkard. So you can get, it's a really gray area and it's a, it's frankly kind of a booby trap,

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in my opinion, where if you admit to regularly using alcohol, you can, you can be found to be a

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habitual drunkard and that can be a really big problem because then you have to show you're

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going to get a denial at the interview and then you have to go back in and show that you have

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rehabilitated yourself. So while you're in Mexico, you would need to go to like AA meetings and maybe,

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maybe rehab. And if you're like, I don't have an alcohol abuse problem, I just answered honestly

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that I drink three beers a day when I get off work. That could be a really big problem for you.

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So again, this is something to talk to an immigration lawyer, especially who practices a lot at your

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specific consulate to figure out, you know, what's the best legal advice and how can we prepare you

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best before your interview? And let me tell you what that would be if I were talking to you. I

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would say quit drinking or drink one drink a day for an extended period of time before you go to

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your consulate interview. That way you can honestly tell the doctor when they ask how many

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drinks do you have per week, you can say seven or less, rather than saying what's seven times three,

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21 or less. Okay, because 21 drinks a week sounds like a lot if I'm a medical doctor who's assessing

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whether you abuse alcohol and you are habitual drunkard. So I just want to give you that heads

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up. And I also want to share because like being sober has been the best thing in the whole world

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for me. I'm just passing 1000 days of being alcohol free and it's been amazing. So to the

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extent that that's helpful for you, I used to be a habitual drunkard. Even as an immigration lawyer,

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I abused alcohol, I drank way too much every single freaking day. It was the way I managed my stress.

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So I have a lot of empathy for you. If you're someone who that's your stress management, because

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hey, it is really hard just being an immigration lawyer, I frankly cannot imagine what it would

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be like actually being the immigrant who has to go through this process because I'm just advising

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about it. I'm not walking in these shoes. So I have a ton of empathy for you, zero judgment

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about how you're processing stress or relaxing or just having a good time. But what I will say is

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that can have very detrimental consequences for you. And I don't want you to get screwed

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by getting to see you. Hora is answering honestly, which we do, we need to answer honestly. But

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let's go in with an honest answer that's not going to get us into trouble, right? Get us into

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having problems. As we end here today, I'm going to wrap it up and say, there are three main reasons

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I see clients get stuck in pseudo horrors. The first is grounds of inadmissibility that they

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either knew about or didn't know about. But the consulate has said, you can't get your green card

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because of this issue. And now we have to solve it while you're in Mexico rather than while you're

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in the United States. The second is criminal issues that the consulate either finds out about

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or just is an issue that becomes more of a problem than initially anticipated. And the third is

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things that come up during your medical exam, most of the time relating to alcohol or drug use. So

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anytime we talk about those two things, if you have that happening in your life, please call

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me. Please contact an immigration lawyer. You can call me before you go to your interview because,

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especially before you go to your medical exam, because you're going to want to know

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what's the honest way for me to answer this question so that number one, I'm always telling

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the truth. But number two, I'm not getting myself in trouble. Like, I don't want to,

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I don't want to make life harder for myself by being honest. And we can help you with that. My

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philosophy is there's always a way to be transparent and to be honest and to do all of this,

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the right way. Because what's the point in getting your papers if you still have to look over your

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shoulder, right? My friend have a wonderful day. Keep fighting the good fight and tune in for

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another episode. If this is helpful for you, please share it with a friend. And I'll see you around.

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My friend, I'm so glad you joined me today. If you have a friend or family member who may need

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some immigration law guidance or even just day to day encouragement, please send them a text or email

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or a DM on social media and say, Hey, I think this podcast is going to help you. I sure wish

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someone had given me the tips I'm sharing here years and years ago when I was starting out as

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an immigration lawyer. Thank you so much for being here. I'll see you next week. Same time, same place.

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Adios.

