1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,520 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases. 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Hello everyone and welcome back. 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,960 Welcome back everyone. 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,280 I'm Ali. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,500 And I'm Eli. 12 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:45,160 And we're back at Cold and Missing on our 43rd episode. 13 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:46,920 That's correct, episode 43. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Wow. 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,920 What'd you say? 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Wow. 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Wow. 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,920 I thought you said, well. 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,800 I was like, oh, we're just going to go right into getting started, okay. 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,800 But I love that energy. 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,240 I think people enjoy that we get right to it. 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,520 Well, with that said, would you like to get us started? 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,040 Yeah, let's just get into it. 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Okay, great. 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Episode 43. 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Ah, this is a missing persons case, correct? 27 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,880 All right, let's do it. 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 So today I have for you a missing persons case. 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,100 And this is the case of Nefertiti Trader. 30 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:25,600 And this takes place in June of 2014 in Newcastle, Delaware. 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,120 But first a little bit about Nefertiti. 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Nefertiti, or Neffie, as her family and friends call her, is 33 years old in 2014. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:41,120 She was born February 21st, 1981, and she would be 42 years old today. 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,100 Neffie is a loving mother of three and is extremely close with her family. 35 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:49,980 She talks with her mother every day, multiple times a day. 36 00:01:49,980 --> 00:01:55,480 Her cousin, William Trader, said she was, quote, an outgoing person. 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,300 She is real fun to be around. 38 00:01:57,300 --> 00:02:00,520 And if you don't like her, you will love to not like her. 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,240 She is a real good person, end quote. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Nefertiti is described as an outgoing people person who lived life to the fullest. 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:15,200 At this time in 2014, she was on medical leave from her custodial job at Christiana Hospital 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,400 as she was about to undergo a medical procedure. 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,300 Neffie lived in a duplex in the Saddlebrook community in Newcastle, Delaware. 44 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:28,520 This subdivision is a big square with an empty field in the middle. 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,680 And there is only one way in and one way out. 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,160 So the way you come in is the way you have to exit. 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,700 There's just one road that runs through the subdivision. 48 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:40,180 And now a timeline of events. 49 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:46,800 On Sunday, June 29th, 2014, I couldn't find a lot of details surrounding Neffie's movements 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,300 earlier in the day. 51 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:53,060 But what we do know is that in the evening, she took her cousin, William, who also lived 52 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:58,840 with her, to work, and when she returned home, she watched the BET Awards. 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,400 After the award show ends, her and her mother, Denise Trader, talk on the phone to discuss 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,880 the award show. 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:11,500 Now it's unclear if Neffie goes to sleep or if she has insomnia, but early the next morning, 56 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:18,840 so this would be Monday, June 30th, 2014, around 3.30am, Neffie leaves her home to go 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,880 to a nearby 7-Eleven. 58 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,560 It was about a 7 minute drive from her home. 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,960 According to her family, it was normal for her to go to 7-Eleven to get coffees for her 60 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,600 and her daughter. 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Police are able to confirm that Neffie does go to the 7-Eleven and buys a pack of Newport 62 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,560 cigarettes, two coffees, and a loaf of bread. 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,920 There is no surveillance footage of her at the 7-Eleven, but she was a regular there 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,120 and the clerk recognized her in her pink sweatsuit. 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,920 The clerk did say that it was unusual for Neffie to be there at 7-Eleven at that time. 66 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,931 Neffie's two oldest teenage children were at the home during this outing. 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Her 17-year-old son heard a noise early in the morning and went downstairs to investigate 68 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,840 but didn't see anything, so he went back to bed. 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:11,040 At around 4am, a neighbor, his name is Joe Robinson, he happened to be up at that time 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,700 and he noticed that Neffie's front porch light lit up. 71 00:04:14,700 --> 00:04:19,560 When he went to go look out the second-story window, he saw someone dragging Neffie into 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,160 her 2000 Acura RL and putting her in the back seat. 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,200 The person was wearing tan shorts and a black hoodie. 74 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,160 By the time Joe got downstairs, the car is gone. 75 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,840 Joe says that he hesitated calling police because he was unsure if someone was sick 76 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:36,760 and was taken to the hospital. 77 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:42,040 He says, quote, had I known something was going on like that, I wouldn't have hesitated. 78 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,040 It bothers me. 79 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,640 I hope they find her. 80 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,640 End quote. 81 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,440 According to Officer Tracy Duffy with the New Castle County Police, quote, the witness 82 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,480 saw her speaking to someone, but they weren't able to tell if it was a male or female, and 83 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,040 then they forced her into the vehicle. 84 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,160 End quote. 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,720 As the day breaks, on June 30th, Neffie's family began calling her as this was their 86 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,240 usual routine. 87 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,840 When her mother is unable to get a hold of her, she thinks that maybe Neffie had returned 88 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,680 to work early and this would explain why her cell phone was off. 89 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,360 Denise decides to head over to Neffie's house around 6 p.m. that day when she would have 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,560 normally returned home from work. 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,720 When her mother arrives at Neffie's house, she notices several strange things. 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,660 She finds a loaf of bread that someone had stepped on in the front yard. 93 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:35,520 On the front porch are two coffees, a pack of Newports, and an unopened condom on a chair. 94 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,680 And then Neffie's flip flops were laying near each other by the front door. 95 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,640 But there are no signs of Nefertiti at her home. 96 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Her mother is worried since Neffie is not home and her car is gone. 97 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Denise decides to return to her home and try Neffie's cell phone one more time. 98 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,200 When she doesn't pick up, Denise reports her missing at 9.37 p.m. 99 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,540 Now presumably from here, the police do begin to investigate, but the next update we get 100 00:06:01,540 --> 00:06:06,120 is July 2nd, so this would just be two days after her abduction. 101 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Police have been unable to track down Neffie's car. 102 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,640 After the vehicle left her home, it was seen on surveillance footage passing a nearby Verizon 103 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,240 store, but this is the last time that the vehicle is caught on surveillance. 104 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,920 And to date, the car has never been found. 105 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Police ask for the public's help in looking for Neffie's car. 106 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:32,340 On July 15th, so this is just 15 days, Officer Tracy Duffy says, quote, we think that she 107 00:06:32,340 --> 00:06:37,080 knew her abductor, but we can't rule out that it was a stranger, end quote. 108 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,120 So the summer comes and goes, and then the next update I could find is in October of 109 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,080 that same year, so this would be three months after Nefretiti's abduction. 110 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Police at this time have no strong leads and no solid information, according to Tracy Duffy. 111 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,680 There is a rumor that Neffie's cell phone was powered on a few weeks after her abduction 112 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:04,480 and then powered off again very quickly, but police refuse to confirm or deny this rumor. 113 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:11,360 On Monday, November 17th, 2014, so this is four and a half months now, Denise Trader, 114 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Neffie's mom, speaks out in the local media against the New Castle County police claiming 115 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,160 that they are not doing enough to find her daughter. 116 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Denise says, quote, it eats me up a whole lot. 117 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,620 There's not a day that goes by that I don't wonder where she's at and when she'll be 118 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:27,440 back, end quote. 119 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Police say the case is still open and active, but Denise spends most of her free time driving 120 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,680 around looking for Neffie's car. 121 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Denise believes that if you find the car, you'll find Neffie. 122 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:45,200 On Saturday, February 21st, 2015, this is almost eight months Nefretiti has been gone, 123 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,240 family gather for what should have been Neffie's 34th birthday. 124 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Nefretiti and her mother Denise share birthdays, so they usually had a family dinner together 125 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,700 and then the family went out to celebrate the mother daughter duo. 126 00:07:57,700 --> 00:08:00,440 But this year's gathering is much more subdued. 127 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Police says, quote, I talk to her all the time. 128 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,200 I tell her, get ready to get home, baby. 129 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Get prepared, end quote. 130 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Police do say that since Neffie's abduction, there have been no cell phone activity and 131 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,540 no bank activity. 132 00:08:13,540 --> 00:08:20,320 In June of 2015, so this is one year now, the FBI get involved and they offer a $30,000 133 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,360 reward for information leading to Neffie. 134 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,380 Neffie's cousin, Corey Trader, says, quote, we need to know if Nef's alive. 135 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:30,520 We need to know if she's gone. 136 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,080 It's just hard to have that lingering over your head. 137 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,680 It's been a year. 138 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:40,200 You know, Nef done missed her birthday and her kids birthdays, end quote. 139 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Police say her car is still missing and they don't have any leads and there aren't any 140 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:47,620 tips coming in regarding the case. 141 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:51,480 And then it appears that the case does get pretty cold. 142 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,320 The next update I could find came from 2017. 143 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,100 So this would be three years that Nefertiti has been gone. 144 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:05,280 And the FBI believe that she is deceased and she's declared legally dead. 145 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,480 And this is just three years after her abduction. 146 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:15,440 In February of 2018, despite the hearing that declared Neffie as legally dead, Denise, her 147 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,320 mother still believes that her daughter is alive. 148 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,600 Denise has heard rumors that a woman was seen in Wilmington, Delaware that looked like Neffie. 149 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,120 She says, quote, I've heard that some girl has been spotted in Shop Right over on South 150 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Market Street. 151 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,420 Some girl who resembles her has been spotted over there, end quote. 152 00:09:33,420 --> 00:09:40,600 And now this piece is not necessarily connected to Nefertiti's case, at least not officially, 153 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,180 but it did seem relevant to share in the timeline of events. 154 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:50,840 So in November of 2020, a man named Roddy Prince is on trial for shooting five of his 155 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,920 coworkers, three of which died in 2017. 156 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,600 After killing his coworkers in Maryland, he drove to Delaware to try and kill a business 157 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,600 owner. 158 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,080 He does end up shooting this man, but he survives. 159 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:12,120 During the trial, it is revealed that on February 22nd, 2014, Roddy Prince was jumped outside 160 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,480 of Club Rebel early in the morning and Neffie was a witness to this. 161 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,100 Neffie was with Roddy during the attack. 162 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:23,280 They had been sitting in her car when five or six men pulled Prince from the passenger 163 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,000 seat and attacked him. 164 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,400 Neffie told police that she couldn't see any of the attackers because the attack happened 165 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,800 towards the back of her vehicle and on the ground. 166 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:38,020 After the attack, Roddy Prince admits that everything changed for him and he became suspicious 167 00:10:38,020 --> 00:10:39,240 of everyone. 168 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,720 He believed that the men who attacked him and Neffie were paid by the local businessman 169 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,080 to attack him. 170 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,440 This is the same man that Roddy will try to shoot and kill in 2017. 171 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Neffie would go missing four months after this attack in 2014, but Prince has never been 172 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,120 charged in relation to her disappearance. 173 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:07,140 But that is the last update that I could find for Nefertiti Trader. 174 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:12,200 If you know anything about the abduction of Nefertiti Trader or her whereabouts today, 175 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:21,720 you are encouraged to call the New Castle County Cold Case Squad at 302-395-2781. 176 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:29,080 And the sources for the timeline today come from the News Journal, ABC 6, ABC 7, and News 177 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,400 1. 178 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,360 So that is the case of Nefertiti Trader. 179 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Thank you for bringing this case to light. 180 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Like I say, I think pretty much every episode at this point, I don't understand how I haven't 181 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,680 heard about it. 182 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:47,720 And I don't understand how this isn't solved. 183 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:54,520 I was shocked like kind of continuously when you kept saying 2014. 184 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:03,600 And that it aligned so close with something pretty terrible happening a few months prior 185 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,040 directly relating to her. 186 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Yeah, I mean, a lot jumped out immediately. 187 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:18,040 But honestly, the most disturbing thing was my body had a full reaction when you said 188 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:25,280 the loaf of bread was stepped on and that there was a condom there. 189 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:32,440 I was just like the mark of the bread of a foot step in the foot imprint in the bread. 190 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,760 To me, like that sounds like a struggle. 191 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:44,680 And then the this my body like, it was like repulsed, I think. 192 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:48,000 Because I was like, that's fucking planned. 193 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,760 And that's disgusting. 194 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:56,680 I just was upset because, well, I was scared listening to you tell me that. 195 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:03,440 So I was just listening to it, so I imagine that she was probably really scared. 196 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,600 It was really scary, like hearing what you said. 197 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,320 I guess I wanted to know like what you thought like, how is this not solved? 198 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,320 I don't understand. 199 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Yeah, there's a lot of questions. 200 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,720 The event that happened about four months before she disappeared. 201 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:26,760 I could only find one news source that talked about this or that made this connection. 202 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,360 So that was the news journal. 203 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,240 So just a shout out to the news journal and their writing. 204 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Yeah, thank you. 205 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,100 I mean, but they made this connection. 206 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:39,160 And they're the only ones that I found that wrote about it in this way. 207 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:46,060 But it does seem like this would be a place to begin an investigation. 208 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:48,320 And a huge place. 209 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,320 Yeah. 210 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,240 I was like, how is it not? 211 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Right. 212 00:13:53,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Because, you know, the officer, the spokesperson officer, Tracy Duffy, did say that they believed 213 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,200 that the abductor was known to her. 214 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,720 And there are a couple of clues at the crime scene that kind of indicate this. 215 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Like, the coffees were not spilled, right? 216 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,280 They were set down. 217 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:21,400 So that would indicate that she either, you know, got to the front door, set them down, 218 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 or she felt comfortable enough to like talk to someone and set them down. 219 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:31,220 There's a lot of questions too, because no other car was seen. 220 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:36,400 Because there is a witness in this, the neighbor who lived a few houses down, it seems like, 221 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:46,000 herself of the description, saw the abduction take place, and there was no other car mentioned, 222 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,000 at least to the media. 223 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,260 There was no other car mentioned. 224 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:52,400 So this person, whoever did this, how did they get there? 225 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,700 That's a big question that I have. 226 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:58,520 That's what I think that's why I was emphasizing the planned part. 227 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,360 It's like, were you watching? 228 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,460 But again, it was kind of odd for her to be out at that hour. 229 00:15:04,460 --> 00:15:08,000 So was there a planned meeting? 230 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,700 Was she going to meet somebody? 231 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:13,160 Was somebody going to swing by to talk? 232 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,080 That's what I meant, I guess, more to emphasize again, that it's very scary. 233 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:24,600 It's like, was that person in one place for multiple days watching and waiting? 234 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Totally, yeah. 235 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,600 That's what I'm saying. 236 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:32,200 But I also think it's a great point that what you, like what you just said, I mean, there's 237 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:39,080 tons of ways it could have happened that this person, you know, what seems like just appeared 238 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,640 or whatever. 239 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,800 And one person saw it. 240 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,840 But like, if it's dark, they said they couldn't tell the gender of the person. 241 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Like that person, you know, if they had brought a condom that was maybe going to be used to 242 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:04,920 like prevent DNA or whatever, maybe they were wearing gloves too, you know, so. 243 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:10,600 Yeah, her cigarettes, her shoes and the coffees were found on the porch table. 244 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Oh, her shoes. 245 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Her shoes were found. 246 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Her shoes were up on the table? 247 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,680 They weren't up on the table. 248 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,840 They were like kind of kicked off near the front door, but they were near each other. 249 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,560 They weren't like scattered around the front yard. 250 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,920 They were near each other by the front door. 251 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:31,700 Yeah, it was it what what it sounds like to me is that she basically like completely disarmed 252 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:36,360 herself as if she was about to walk inside, like put everything like kicked off her shoes, 253 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,440 set like the stuff down to open the door. 254 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 And that's like, maybe where. 255 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Yeah, the family did think it was strange that the shoes were on the outside. 256 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,560 That was weird to them. 257 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,440 And out of the normal, like she wouldn't leave her shoes on the front porch. 258 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Like her shoes would be inside. 259 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Oh, God. 260 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,080 So that's even more disturbing. 261 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,520 There's yeah, there's like I thought that like maybe she was sitting down, having a 262 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:13,640 cigarette, drinking her coffee and somebody that she knew was like, oh, hey, right. 263 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,460 Stop by whatever. 264 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:19,720 Because her family said she wouldn't talk to somebody she didn't know at this hour. 265 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Like they were pretty sure about that, that if some stranger had just like start talking 266 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,920 to her, she wouldn't have engaged this person. 267 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,040 That doesn't mean that either. 268 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,160 I would have immediately walked inside at 3am outside of our home. 269 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,160 Right. 270 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,520 No, I would walk in, lock my door. 271 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,920 I'm not doing it. 272 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,920 Right. 273 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:42,080 And I mean, maybe that is what happened, because also there's the idea like maybe she was just 274 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,600 walking to the front door, put the coffees down on the front porch table, get her keys, 275 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:53,520 unlock the door, and then somebody like grabs her, snatches her out of her shoes, essentially. 276 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,840 And the struggle happens. 277 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,440 She has the bread in her hand because she's still trying. 278 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,520 She was unlocking the door. 279 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,620 She kept that that gets stepped on. 280 00:18:01,620 --> 00:18:03,160 She gets put in her car. 281 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,160 But this person, whoever did this, like they are banking that, you know, she has her keys 282 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,160 on her. 283 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,000 They're able to get the car keys from her. 284 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,680 Like it's there are elements of it that seemed very preplanned, but then also elements of 285 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,360 it that it's like this was just like sheer randomness. 286 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,000 Like, yeah, it could be. 287 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 I mean, it's speculative. 288 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,280 There could be so many things. 289 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Right. 290 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:33,400 But it seems like to me, the biggest lead at this point would be speaking to Roddy Prince. 291 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,360 In her home, I'm sorry to interrupt, but just before we keep moving on in her home, she 292 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:42,040 lived with her mother, sister, or she lived alone. 293 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,040 So she lived with her children, two of which were home at this time. 294 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,840 And she usually brought a coffee home for her daughter. 295 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,840 OK. 296 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:56,360 And her 17 year old son did hear a commotion early in the morning, went downstairs, didn't 297 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,420 see anything and went back to bed. 298 00:18:58,420 --> 00:18:59,480 We don't know. 299 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,560 And then her cousin also lived with her, but he was at work during this time, I believe. 300 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,200 And I don't know the timeline as far as the kids go, because I assume they wake up and 301 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,720 they know their mom's not there. 302 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,720 They would be confused. 303 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,240 But you said her nephew lived with her? 304 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,240 Her cousin. 305 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,920 Who is her cousin? 306 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,880 That's her cousin William. 307 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,800 She had dropped him off at work earlier that evening. 308 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Yeah, to emphasize the theory of it was a it was possibly a planned attack. 309 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:37,120 They are with knowing that information about her cousin William, they're banking on the 310 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:42,160 fact that an adult male won't be in the home who's working a third shift. 311 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,120 And if he's where does he work? 312 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:46,040 I couldn't find that information. 313 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Yeah. 314 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,360 Well, I mean, third shift at that time. 315 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:54,620 I'm just going to like based on like statistics, I'm going to go ahead and assume that maybe 316 00:19:54,620 --> 00:20:00,400 Williams a big dude, you know, like because the fact that there is like a young son there. 317 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,400 I mean, I don't know physically know these people. 318 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,400 But like, if you're banking on it, if you're if you if you know, OK, she lives with a couple 319 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,080 of people who's going to be home, oh, this guy's going to be out of there. 320 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,080 This is a good time. 321 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Everyone's going to be asleep. 322 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,560 You know, like rarely is she home alone. 323 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:24,440 And this is like the best case scenario of being alone when people are kind of incapacitated 324 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:31,200 by sleep and, you know, the biggest person isn't around and not really that I'm leaning 325 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,760 towards like gender. 326 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,840 It's more just like size. 327 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Mm hmm. 328 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Yeah, I agree with you. 329 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 I think that's all makes a lot of sense. 330 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,280 And then the question just like that remains in that scenario is like, how do you get her 331 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,280 outside? 332 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,200 How do you make sure she goes to the 7-Eleven? 333 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,600 How do you you know, how do you get her outside of her home? 334 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Mm hmm. 335 00:20:54,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Yeah, that's why I think that quite possibly because it is three thirty a.m. and everyone 336 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,080 is kind of saying the odd thing about it all is like, yes, it's yes, it's commonplace 337 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,760 for her to be going to the 7-Eleven. 338 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Yes. 339 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,120 The things that she buys. 340 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,680 Yes, yes, yes. 341 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,760 I don't think that second coffee was for her daughter. 342 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,800 I think the second coffee was for someone that she was meeting up with. 343 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,000 And that person is. 344 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,640 Yeah, and you know, her cell phone being taken and that. 345 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,000 You know, I think that would have a lot of evidence on it. 346 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Who was the last person to contact her? 347 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,720 And I don't know if they why they wouldn't be able to get that information from the cell 348 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,760 phone carrier themselves. 349 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,760 You know what I mean? 350 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Mm hmm. 351 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,960 To be able to pull that data of like the last phone numbers or the last texts. 352 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,160 I feel like they should have been able to do this in 2014 and maybe they have and they 353 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,960 just haven't released that information. 354 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:59,480 And I understand that, again, like that there's emphasis on keeping things under wraps. 355 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,480 I understand that. 356 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,480 But. 357 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,520 But me and my Nancy Drew, like this is where I would start. 358 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,080 And like these are the things that I would want to like check off my list to like. 359 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:17,280 No, because the attack seems targeted, but so chaotic and random. 360 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,960 The stepped on bread, that's the it's so careless. 361 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,980 Another thing that wasn't mentioned that I just have questions about is if the loaf 362 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:33,560 of bread was in a plastic bag and if so, what happened to that plastic bag? 363 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,880 Because they don't mention it at the crime scene. 364 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,460 It doesn't mean that it wasn't there. 365 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:39,440 Maybe it just wasn't like that significant, but. 366 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,600 Well, yeah, and if there was a blueprint in it, there's got to be a label in it. 367 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:49,360 Like bread is a perfect medium to catch like, you know, like a Nike print that's in the 368 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:50,360 bottom of. 369 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,720 Yeah, or even just some tread marks. 370 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,920 Exactly. 371 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,120 It's really sad that there was a delay in getting the police involved in this. 372 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:04,960 It also really points to the possibility of it being personal because cigarettes are left 373 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,800 behind shoes, coffee, like they don't take anything. 374 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,680 They don't even go in the house. 375 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,960 No, it was about her. 376 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,360 And the car has never been found to date her home, like just looking in Google Maps, it 377 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,680 is not far from the Delaware River. 378 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:27,200 So I don't I couldn't find any reports that the river had ever been searched for a vehicle 379 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,080 or what's like what's what's the terrain? 380 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,640 Or I mean, like, I guess I'm wondering, does it like rush really fast? 381 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Like if a car were to go in, is it going to dump over to a place where like it would be 382 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,760 really hard to find it? 383 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,760 I don't know. 384 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,160 I think a lot of it depends on where it goes into the river, how deep it is at that part. 385 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,200 What kind of car is it? 386 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:56,720 It is a silver 2000 Acura RL with Delaware license plates. 387 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,680 Like a sedan like just like a four door. 388 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Yeah, four door sedan. 389 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,840 I have never found any evidence that it was searched in regards to Nefertiti's disappearance. 390 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:13,720 But her family is holding out hope that she is alive and that she will come back to them. 391 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:20,000 And again, if you know anything about Nefertiti's abduction in 2014 or her whereabouts today, 392 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,480 you are encouraged to call the Newcastle County cold case unit at 302-395-2781. 393 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:33,680 Wow, thanks for bringing this case to light. 394 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Yeah, and her case has been covered by other podcasts before. 395 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