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Welcome back everyone.

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Welcome back everyone.

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I am your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.

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And I am your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing.

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Where we focus exclusively on...

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Cold cases.

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And missing person cases.

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Alright, my love, what do you have for us this week?

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I have a missing person case this week.

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Alright, I think we should get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Great.

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So today we are going to be talking about the unresolved missing person case of Regina

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McCorkle.

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And this takes place in August of 1981 in East Moline, Illinois.

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But first a little bit about Regina.

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Regina also goes by Gina.

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She was 19 years old in 1981.

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She was born October 16, 1961 and she would be 61 years old today.

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Regina lived at her mother's house on the 1500 block of 11th Avenue in East Moline,

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Illinois.

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She and her 18 month old son, CJ, moved in after she divorced her ex-husband, Curtis

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East Moline is located in the Quad Cities, which is a metropolitan area on the border

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of Illinois and Iowa.

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It's made up of a lot of cities, but there's four major cities, hence Quad Cities.

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Regina is described as a quiet, responsible, and loving mother.

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She loves playing tennis and watching movies.

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Regina worked on the custodial staff at the Rock Island Arsenal and she worked night

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shifts there so that way she could go to college during the day.

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She had recently saved up her money from her job and bought a 1979 Mustang.

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So now a timeline of events.

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On Friday, August 14, 1981, Regina's mother, Jean McCorkle, leaves for work between 830

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and 845.

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Jean says, quote, I woke her up before I left for work Friday.

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She was standing in her bedroom doorway when I walked out the door.

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Things were fine, end quote.

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When Jean leaves, Regina is wearing her nightgown and she doesn't notice any strange behavior.

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James Piller, Regina's boyfriend, says that he talked on the phone with her until 930

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that morning.

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James didn't have a car, so Regina had agreed to pick him up and take him to apply

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for a job, but she'll never show up.

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Curtis Campbell, her ex-husband, said he showed up around 10 a.m. to talk to Regina.

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He knocked on the front door but left when he didn't get an answer.

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Detective Ernie Manrique, who was working her case, says, quote, we think that she probably

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left home at about 11 a.m., but it really could have been any time between 930 and when

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her mother returned home, end quote.

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Jean returns home between 4 and 430 that afternoon.

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The first thing Jean notices is Regina's car is parked behind the house.

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Since Regina worked night shifts, she should have left already to drop her son off at the

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babysitter's.

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Jean then notices that the front door is locked from the inside.

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The screen door on the front door had been locked, so there was no way that she could

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unlock it from the outside.

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Jean knocks on the front door, but there's no response.

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So then she goes around to the back door and she also finds that it's locked in the same

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way.

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It's locked from the inside.

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At this point, she begins to panic.

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So Jean goes to Regina's window, but she hears nothing except for her grandson crying.

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Now completely panicked, Jean rips out the screen and breaks into her own home.

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She finds CJ locked in Regina's room.

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He's upset, but unharmed.

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Regina is nowhere to be found.

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There are no signs of a struggle.

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Regina's bed was unmade, which was unusual for her.

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The only things missing was the nightgown she was wearing and the top sheet of her bed.

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Her clothes, shoes, ID, money, and purse were all accounted for.

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A basement screen window had been removed, but police are unsure if it was removed from

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the outside or the inside of the home.

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It was found laying on the basement floor.

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Police believe the only way out was through the basement window since all the doors were

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Jean calls police, but they advise her to wait 48 hours.

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The next day, Saturday, August 15th, Jean calls the FBI.

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She tells local news that they asked her if Regina was white or black.

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She asked what difference that made since it was her baby that was missing.

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Now it's unclear exactly when police get involved, but my guess is that on Monday, August 17th,

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they're officially involved in the case.

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That would be over 48 hours that Regina had been missing.

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And by Tuesday, August 18th, this is four days now she's been missing, police begin

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to receive tips.

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In the morning hours, East Moline police receive an anonymous tip that Regina is being held

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in an abandoned building in Davenport, Iowa.

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Since this crosses state lines, the FBI are assisting, but the FBI will never open a full

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case for Regina.

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They'll just assist local police.

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Police search two abandoned buildings and find nothing.

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That afternoon, another anonymous tip will be called in, this time to Davenport police,

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saying the same thing, that she's being held in an abandoned building.

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Five additional buildings are searched, but again, nothing is found.

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A third tip comes in that Regina was seen riding a maroon motorcycle around 1pm the

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day she disappeared, less than a mile from her home.

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Police are never able to verify this claim.

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On Wednesday, August 19th, this is five days now, police are pleading with the public for

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help.

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They say the smallest clue could break the case wide open.

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Detective Ernie Manrique says, quote, we are assuming she was kidnapped.

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On Tuesday, August 25th, this is 11 days now Regina has been missing.

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James, Regina's boyfriend, passes a polygraph test with flying colors, according to police,

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and is eliminated as a suspect.

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Curtis, her ex-husband, refuses to answer questions or take a polygraph test based on

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advice from his lawyer.

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But police really want him to, and they talk about it a lot in the newspapers, how much

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they want him to take a polygraph test.

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On Wednesday, August 26th, 12 days now Regina has been missing, police continue to receive

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tips but none of them pan out.

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Detective Ernie Manrique says, quote, this is really frustrating.

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We're hoping she's still alive, but we just don't know.

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We're just hoping something pops up so we can get some evidence against whoever did

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it, if it really happened, end quote.

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Meanwhile, her family is worried sick about her.

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Her mother Jean says, quote, I'm scared to leave the house in case the phone rings.

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It might be somebody who knows something about my little girl, end quote.

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When asked about what she thinks happened, Jean says, quote, I know somebody must have

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come in here.

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There's no way she would have just left the baby here alone.

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And she just bought her little car.

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She wouldn't have left that just sitting in the driveway, end quote.

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On Friday, August 28th, two weeks now Regina has been missing, a concerned citizen named

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Max Bandi starts a reward fund with $100 in hopes of raising $1,500 and bringing answers

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to what happened to Regina.

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In a press release, Max said if she was not found within 24 months, it would be placed

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in a trust for her son.

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On Thursday, September 3rd, a candlelight vigil is held at the Community Church of God

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in Christ, just shy of three weeks of Regina being missing.

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The vigil is sponsored by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and the modest 14-pew

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church is filled with friends, family, and strangers touched by the news of Regina's

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disappearance.

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Jean sat weeping in the front row.

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It's also around this time that the NAACP has agreed to work with police in talking

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with neighbors who otherwise might not want to talk to police or be afraid to.

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In October of 1981, police have no new leads.

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They say they receive about one tip a week, but none of them have led to Regina.

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In November of 1981, this is about three months now Regina has been missing, police are still

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at square one.

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Detective Ernie Manrique says, quote, we believe she's still alive.

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We don't know if foul play is a part of her disappearance.

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It's possible she just left on her own.

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It's possible she was abducted, end quote.

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Police are still running down each tip, but those have started to stop coming in.

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Detective Manrique does mention, quote, everybody I've talked to is afraid.

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I don't know why, end quote.

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In January of 1982, the new year, tips have almost completely stopped coming in regarding

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Regina's case.

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In August of 1982, Regina has been missing for one year.

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Police are still at a standstill with the case.

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Her mother Jean believes that part of the issue is the fact that it was raining the

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day that Regina disappeared.

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If it had been a nice day out, a lot of the retired folks in the neighborhood would have

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been sitting out on their porches.

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Jean says, quote, I just wish I knew where my daughter was, not knowing is the hardest

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part, end quote.

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In October of 1996, so this is 15 years now, Regina's family holds a prayer vigil with

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other families of missing people.

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Regina's is officially the oldest unresolved missing person case for E. Smollin.

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And over the next few years, throughout the 90s and into the early 2000s, police will

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continue to run down leads in Regina's case as they receive them.

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But they don't lead to anything and they almost all fizzle out, according to police.

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But in March of 2022, so this is almost 40 years now that Regina has been missing, there

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is still no sign of Regina, but her mother Jean keeps her memory alive.

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She says, quote, I think about my baby every single day.

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I can't get it wrapped around my head.

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How can a body just disappear and nobody find it?

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Regina has never legally been declared dead.

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Her mother says, quote, I have not declared her dead in my heart and I can't bring myself

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Jean reveals that in 2021, Curtis, Regina's ex-husband, called Jean and she confronted

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She asked him if he had anything to do with it.

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And Curtis swears he had nothing to do with it and that he loved Regina.

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But that is all we know about Regina McCorkle.

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So if you know anything about what happened to Regina in August of 1981, please call the

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East Moline Police at 309-752-1555.

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And the sources for today's podcast come from The Dispatch, Quad City Times, The Rock Island

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Argus, and those three newspapers covered the story quite heavily.

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So I read a lot of articles from those three.

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And then additionally, our QuadCities.com and the CharlieProject.com.

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So do you have any questions?

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I think my question for you is like, do you think that she was failed?

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Yes.

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But I say that in I think that any missing person or cold case, I think they all have

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been failed.

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If we're sitting here covering it.

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Did you think the people who were supposed to do their jobs and solving this case or

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gaining more information about it, do you think that they cared?

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And do you think that they did their job to the fullest extent?

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I think that they were late to care.

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I basically just mean that, you know, when she when Jean, Regina's mother initially

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calls police, they tell her to wait 48 hours.

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And the next day she calls the FBI.

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And nobody helps her until that 48 hours.

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But once that 48 hours happens, people do get involved.

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And I didn't go into every lead that was chased down.

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There was like a big psychic portion of this case that I left out.

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They Yeah, police actually ended up working with the psychic for around two weeks.

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And the psychic actually ended up quitting because she feared for her life.

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So there was a lot of leads run down in this case.

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So I just feel that they were really late, that if they had jumped on it when all of

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those very suspicious things happened that first day, it could have maybe turned out

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better.

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But you put 48 hours in between when you start looking for somebody.

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That's a lot of time.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I would like to clarify who asked the question or said the statement if it even happened.

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Was that a police officer?

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Yeah, that was Detective Ernie Manrique, who said that.

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And it was several weeks after the fact that he said that.

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And it was really like police were like, we have no idea what happens.

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Like they discount they start to like, in the beginning, it seems like they were very

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much this is a kidnapping once they finally get involved with it.

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But then they start kind of walking back on that.

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And they're like, well, we don't really know what happened.

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So they start kind of being wishy washy on their stance on that.

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don't really know what happened.

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And honestly, we don't really care.

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Like that's kind of what it felt like.

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And again, I know I've said this on other episodes, but like if you are doing that job,

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100% of the time, your care level needs to be turned up.

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I think you need a tremendous amount of like discipline with matched empathy to do that

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kind of job.

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And it's again, it seemed like both were lacking.

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And what informed me in thinking that honestly, it was like what I have learned about racism.

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I mean, I feel like I can say with my you know, limited experience in it is that it

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was like a microaggression of carelessness.

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Yeah, I mean, resources like there could have been more resources pulled for this case.

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It does seem like there was just this one detective working on it, detective Ernie Manrique,

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as opposed to like a task force or several people working on it.

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You know what I mean?

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And I don't want to like defend the police, you know, but I do want to acknowledge that

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this one detective did run down every lead that he got.

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So he did his job, but it was like the bare minimum of the job of running down the leads,

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you know.

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You know, I just always feel that more can be done for missing people and for cold cases

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for homicides.

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Like, there's always more that I would vouch to say, we could do more.

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Yes.

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I'm not I'm not I'm I'm laughing because I have been socialized to laugh through feeling

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very uncomfortable.

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And I'm uncomfortable right now.

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I'm always uncomfortable listening to how people's lives were just forgotten about,

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you know.

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It's also really easy for me to, you know, sit here in an echo chamber and talk about

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my problems with whatever, you know.

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But yeah, I think that, again, it's very messy where there was initially a lot of opportunity

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to comb through the messiness.

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And that was looked over.

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And the mess like set in, you know.

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Well, yeah, I mean, you have like an 18 month old child locked inside of a bedroom in a

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house that's been locked from the inside.

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And I read through a couple of different reports to really understood to really understand

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what that meant.

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But it seems like they had a screen door before their front door that you could lock.

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And this is something that's kind of common in the Midwest.

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So that way on nice days, you can have your front door open and get a breeze.

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But it's not completely unlocked.

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But those can typically only be locked from the inside.

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So those were both locked.

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And then the door was locked.

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It has the little, just like a little latch.

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Yeah, there's like a little latch.

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Sometimes there's a turn.

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My house had the little latch.

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Yeah, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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So I believe it was that kind of setup.

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And so then Jean, when she comes home and finds them both locked, which was out of the

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ordinary, they did not do that.

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She has to rip the screen out and kind of break into her own home.

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And then police to say that the only way they could have really left since the doors relaxed

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from the inside was through that basement window.

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It's like that's not somebody who's leaving on their own accord.

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Like you wouldn't, you're not leaving your own house shoeless in your nightgown through

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a basement window.

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That is very clearly, at least to me, an escape.

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That is someone who escaped a situation, whether they were, you know, running away or were

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pulled out or whatever.

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Like there was like heightened stakes around that situation around someone leaving through

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a basement window.

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Yeah, somebody was running out of it or they were forced out of it.

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Yeah, those are the only things that could have happened.

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So there were a lot of reported sightings of Regina throughout the years, but none of

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them were ever verified.

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This was her 100%.

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So again, if you know anything about what happened to Regina or her whereabouts today,

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please call the East Moline Police at 309-752-1555.

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Thank you for bringing this case to the forefront of our minds.

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And I'm sure, you know, just like myself and for a lot of other people, it's the first

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time we're hearing about it.

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And again, it feels like an echo, but like, I just like, how do we not know about these

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unless you like really go digging for them?

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And I see you do the work.

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And some of these cases, I've watched you spend hours to find an article.

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And it's, I don't know.

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It's continuously shocking to me, but also I understand how it happens because of systems

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in place that harm people who need the most help.

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Yeah, our society, unfortunately, is not set up to help vulnerable people and people missing

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no matter what their background is, I would say, are vulnerable people.

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So our society is not meant to catch them, to hold them, to support them.

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So we're always playing catch up in these cases, really, unfortunately.

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I'm looking forward to creating the graphics for this.

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She like, yes, she was so beautiful.

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But in the pictures, you can tell that she had like a deep, quiet love for her family.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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And again, we're going to be posting the graphics that Eli makes on our Instagram.

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And like I didn't, I didn't expect that unlike a grand scale.

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And it's really cool.

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It's like giving me hope and humanity again, honestly.

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Yeah.

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So thank you for being a part of it.

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Yeah.

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Thanks guys.

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Sorry I'm always crying.

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And have a good week and stay safe y'all.

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Stay safe y'all.