1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,420 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages and is intended for a mature 4 00:00:22,420 --> 00:00:23,620 audience. 5 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:34,080 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,480 Welcome back everyone. 7 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:36,600 Welcome back everyone. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,720 This is Cold and Missing. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,920 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,200 I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,440 And here at Cold and Missing we focus on... 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Cold cases. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,660 And unresolved missing person cases. 14 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:50,580 And this week we are focusing on a... 15 00:00:50,580 --> 00:00:51,580 Cold case. 16 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:52,580 A cold case. 17 00:00:52,580 --> 00:00:53,580 Yeah. 18 00:00:53,580 --> 00:00:54,580 Should we get started? 19 00:00:54,580 --> 00:00:55,580 Yeah, let's do it. 20 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:56,580 Let's do it. 21 00:00:56,580 --> 00:01:00,760 Today we are talking about the cold case of Sherri Swalley. 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,400 And just as a content warning at the top, this case does involve violence and sexual 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,520 assault of a child. 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:14,440 This case takes place in December of 1973 in Atlanta, Georgia. 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,440 But first a little bit about Sherri. 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,220 Sherri is 8 years old in 1973. 27 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:24,640 She was born June 7th, 1965 and she would be 57 years old today. 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,920 Sherri lived in Columbus, Ohio with her parents and her younger brother, Michael. 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,200 She was a third grader at Westgate Elementary School. 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Her father, John Clark Swalley said, quote, she was a bright, friendly child who did well 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,160 in school. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,160 End quote. 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Now we will get into the timeline of events. 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,920 On Saturday, December 22nd, 1973, John had decided to take Sherri and Michael to Walt 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Disney World as a Christmas treat. 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,360 John's plan was to drive to Atlanta on Saturday and spend the night and all day Sunday with 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,680 a former co-worker, Clyde Williamson, at his apartment in Northwest Atlanta. 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Clyde lived at the Pace Setter apartment complex, which was located on Skipper Drive. 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,840 John wanted to stay on Sunday because he was worried that since a lot of gas stations were 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,480 closed on Sunday and there was a national gas shortage happening at this time, that 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,880 it would be difficult to refuel the car on country Georgia roads. 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,960 And he didn't want to run the risk of running out of gas with his kids in the car. 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,120 So John, Sherri, and Michael arrive at Clyde's apartment Saturday evening. 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,080 Sunday, December 23rd, 1973. 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Sherri spends the day playing with kids of the apartment complex. 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Late Sunday afternoon, witnesses say they saw Sherri with a young teen boy wearing an 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,320 army jacket. 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,480 At around 6.30 p.m., John sees Sherri playing with other children. 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,920 That evening, Sherri was at the apartment of Caroline Ellis. 50 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:56,120 Lots of kids had gathered there to play while Caroline made dinner. 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Between 7.30 and 8 o'clock, Caroline sent Sherri to get her father, Clyde, and Michael 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,120 and invite them all for dinner. 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,760 According to Officer E.G. 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Krebs, Sherri was not seen alive after leaving Caroline's apartment. 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,760 At 9.32 p.m., police receive a call from a young-sounding male who refused to ID himself. 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,000 He tells police that there is a dead girl at the apartment complex. 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Police and an ambulance is dispatched, but nothing is found, so they leave. 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,440 At 10.30 p.m., John calls the police to report his daughter missing, but police won't return 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,040 to the apartment complex that night. 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:40,660 The next morning, December 24th, 1973, this is Christmas Eve, police return to the apartment 61 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:44,320 complex as Sherri had not come home that evening. 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:50,360 At around 10.30 a.m., Sherri's body is discovered on a wooded hillside, about 40 yards behind 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,280 one of the complex buildings. 64 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,000 Her body was in full view of 150 apartments. 65 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,900 Sherri was only wearing a blue sweater. 66 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:01,000 The rest of her clothes were found about 20 yards away. 67 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,040 She had been sexually assaulted and was stabbed about 25 times with what investigators described 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,000 as a thin bladed knife. 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Police immediately begin going door to door to interview neighbors. 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:18,040 The next day, Tuesday, December 25th, Christmas Day, police continue their door to door canvassing. 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,040 They'll interview around 50 people between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. 72 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,960 An Atlanta radio station reports that police are holding a man as a material witness, but 73 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,840 he was not considered a suspect at this time. 74 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:33,400 Police refuse to confirm if this is true. 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Detective S.T. Hinshaw says, quote, we are questioning people with any knowledge, but 76 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,640 we don't have any suspects, end quote. 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Residents of the apartment complex are worried as this is the fifth murder in nine months. 78 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:52,240 On March 26th, 1973, two adult sisters were found handcuffed and shot to death inside 79 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,620 their apartment. 80 00:04:53,620 --> 00:04:57,480 On August 7th, a young woman visiting a friend was shot in the face when she answered the 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,720 apartment door. 82 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,180 And two weeks before Sherri's murder, an off-duty police officer was shot when he interrupted 83 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:04,400 a burglary. 84 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Police say that Sherri's murder is not connected with any of these deaths. 85 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:14,560 On Wednesday, December 26th, 1973, police say that Sherri's body had been moved. 86 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,040 They say that she was killed in the woods, but then later moved about 70 feet to a more 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,040 visible spot. 88 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:27,380 Police theorize that whoever called on December 23rd at 9.32 p.m. to report a murdered girl 89 00:05:27,380 --> 00:05:29,680 had watched police search for her in vain. 90 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,040 After police left, they think that the killer then moved Sherri's body to the spot where 91 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,040 she was found the next morning. 92 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,600 On Saturday, December 29th, Sherri's funeral is held at 11 a.m. at the Jerry Spears Funeral 93 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,000 Home in Columbus, Ohio. 94 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:51,360 And then three weeks after Sherri's death, on January 14th, 1974, a fifth-grade girl, 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,180 Patricia Ann Walker, is found murdered in a wooded area behind her school. 96 00:05:56,180 --> 00:05:59,040 This is about three miles from where Sherri was murdered. 97 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,640 The manner of death is different. 98 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,720 Patricia died from compression injuries to the neck. 99 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,800 But circumstances are similar. 100 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Patricia was sent by her mother to a neighbor's apartment to grab a couple cans of beer. 101 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,360 When she failed to return, her mother called the cops, and they found two full beer cans 102 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 on the sidewalk where she would have had to pass. 103 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,760 An investigator, who refused to be named, said that the murders were similar to each 104 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:27,380 other and that the force used on the victims indicated, quote, a deranged mind or a pathological 105 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:30,640 condition induced by drugs, end quote. 106 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Eventually, a 15-year-old boy will be charged in Patricia's death. 107 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,680 He'll never be named an official suspect in Sherri's case. 108 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,600 No one has ever been named an official suspect in Sherri's case. 109 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:48,080 And that is actually all the information I could find on Sherri's death. 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,920 There hasn't been any updates since 1974 that I could find. 111 00:06:53,920 --> 00:07:02,280 So if you know anything about the murder of Sherri Swalley in December of 1973, please 112 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:09,440 call the Atlanta Police Department at 404-614-6544. 113 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:18,840 Or to remain anonymous, you can call Crime Stoppers at 404-577-8477. 114 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,440 And the sources for today's podcast come from the Fort Worth Star Telegram, the Greenville 115 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:30,400 News, the Times Recorder, the Newark Advocate, the Tampa Tribune, Dayton Daily News, the 116 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,760 Daily Advocate, Tyler Morning Telegraph, the Marion Star, the Galleon Inquirer, and the 117 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Atlanta Constitution. 118 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,680 So that is the case of Sherri Swalley. 119 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Yeah. 120 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,300 So what do you think happened? 121 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:45,460 Because it seems like there's an overwhelming amount of evidence. 122 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:49,160 Although I don't really understand what went wrong there. 123 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Yeah. 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:58,400 Well, I'm interested in the thread about the teenage boy, just because witnesses put 125 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,360 her with a young teen earlier in the day. 126 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,120 And then the 911 call was by a younger sounding male. 127 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 So I put that as a teen as well. 128 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,840 And something about watching the police search for the body and then going back to move it 129 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:22,800 to a more visible space, there's just something that seems very juvenile overall about the 130 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,200 case. 131 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:30,460 But on the same token, I feel like if things were done correctly in 1973, if the chain 132 00:08:30,460 --> 00:08:36,360 of command is correct and they were able to save evidence that this would be a case that 133 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:43,120 could be solved with today's technology, or at least move it forward if not solved. 134 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,800 So you think that just no one has been arrested for it? 135 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Or they're just they just don't can't do it or won't do it? 136 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't seem like this case was ever worked again. 137 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,440 Outside of the few weeks surrounding it, I couldn't find any updates. 138 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:09,360 And it seems since Sherri was from Columbus, Ohio, and not from Atlanta, there was no 139 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 pressure on the Atlanta police to solve it. 140 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,700 There was no family there requesting updates. 141 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:18,680 There was nobody there to put pressure on them. 142 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:21,520 And they didn't vote in Atlanta elections. 143 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,980 So it just seems like they didn't care to solve it. 144 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:28,680 Or there was no pressure to solve it. 145 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:33,240 So it got put to the back burner, put to the back burner, and now here we are in 2023, 146 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,560 and it's still not solved. 147 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:40,520 I'm sure a lot of our listeners are familiar with the Atlanta child murders. 148 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,200 And this case would have happened. 149 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,360 They put the Atlanta child murders starting at 79. 150 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,480 So this would be a few years beforehand. 151 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,000 And Sherri doesn't really fit the profile of those at all. 152 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,640 But I just wanted to put that out there that this is a few years before that, just because 153 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,000 it might come to the mind of some of our listeners. 154 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Yeah, I mean, even when I googled her name, there were so many missing and murdered children 155 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,960 from all walks of life that popped up during that time period. 156 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Just typing in her first name, there were so many other pictures and names from 1970 157 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:31,840 to 1980 of just a lot of old or missing cases of specifically children. 158 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:40,520 I mean, yeah, you know, it was before amber alerts were created and really before technology 159 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,160 that assisted in police departments of being able to like talk to each other and communicate 160 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,940 with each other and be quick to share information about a missing child. 161 00:10:49,940 --> 00:10:54,320 And when they could, they didn't want to because politically, it mattered so much at the time 162 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,120 because there wasn't the internet. 163 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:08,880 So local support of what you were trying to do, I think, mattered significantly more because 164 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,680 word of mouth was the way. 165 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:21,680 And I think most cities don't necessarily want a missing and murdered case connected 166 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:24,800 to their physical location, really. 167 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:32,120 So if it's a case that can be forgotten about or swept under the rug, it seems like that's 168 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,840 something that happens with political motive. 169 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:47,560 Yeah, I mean, why publicize on the year anniversary, the two year anniversary of an unsolved child 170 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,800 murder if nobody's asking about it? 171 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Yeah, I think where I'm getting my thought process from is from, you know, watching Mindhunter, 172 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:05,720 which is a dramatization of, or at least season two, Atlanta's missing and murdered. 173 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,320 And there was so much political stuff that I learned that I didn't understand, you know, 174 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:19,960 when I first took interest in true crime, specifically marginalized people in true crime. 175 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,840 I had zero awareness around political influences. 176 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:34,960 And it's sad that that's even a factor when a child has been, you know, brutally discarded 177 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,280 in this way. 178 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:41,560 That's the thing is like, it seemed like so many of the clues were there, like how I'm 179 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:43,320 just echoing you, I guess. 180 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,720 It's like, it seems like there were a lot of arrows and evidence and the fact that her 181 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,000 body was there. 182 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,000 And a child walking around then even with like a younger looking adult, like a teen, 183 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,280 like a young girl walking around with an older boy wouldn't have looked as odd back then 184 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,880 as it would now. 185 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Like I would immediately notice that especially if anything looked off. 186 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,760 And I know you would too. 187 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,840 But back then, I mean, kids would get into cars because they were just learning in real 188 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,720 time that you really should not do that like stranger danger. 189 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:26,940 I think what I'm, I guess I'm just affirming myself in yes, there is a lot of evidence. 190 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:32,720 But even if people saw them, look, saw them walking around and saw what he looked like, 191 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:40,400 the descriptor like the your brain wouldn't pull to fill in the details because it wouldn't 192 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,720 have looked odd. 193 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,840 Even though it's maybe evidence walking right in front of you. 194 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Right. 195 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,600 So I guess I'm speaking to the time because right now I'm saying how is this not solved. 196 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:59,600 But I want to make space for the fact that maybe of course it wasn't at the time. 197 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,160 You know, my mom grew up. 198 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,440 She was around this age in 1973. 199 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:09,640 And her stories from childhood are very similar to this of just like getting out of the door, 200 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,440 running around and coming back when lights turned on. 201 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:18,360 So to me, there's nothing like peculiar about her running around this apartment complex 202 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,440 and like playing with the kids at the apartment complex. 203 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Like there's nothing strange in that or like, and all it takes is a moment for like someone 204 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,680 to walk by and just be like, hey, come with me. 205 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,400 And it's if there's enough people around enough moving parts, it doesn't look or present 206 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,400 as odd. 207 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Right. 208 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:43,320 And, you know, she was sent from Carolyn's apartment to go invite her dad and you know, 209 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,060 everybody over for dinner. 210 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:49,320 You know, whatever happened, I think happened right there is before she got to the apartment, 211 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,960 she ran into whoever it was. 212 00:14:51,960 --> 00:15:00,680 And honestly, I would say when the 911 call comes in, so between Caroline says she sent 213 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:06,360 Sherry between 730 and eight o'clock and the 911 call comes in at 932. 214 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:12,120 So that leaves an hour and a half to two hours depending on the exact time she left that 215 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,120 apartment. 216 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,120 You know what I mean? 217 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,000 So I really think it's those two hours is like where it happens. 218 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,080 I don't think it went overnight. 219 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,320 I don't think you know what I mean? 220 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,800 Like I think the time of death was shortly after she left the apartment. 221 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:28,800 Yeah. 222 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,600 So, yeah, I but again, I don't know. 223 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:40,040 I really think this is a case that could be solved or again, at least move forward. 224 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,920 I think there could be a DNA profile developed and put into CODIS. 225 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,040 And, you know, if nothing comes back, nothing comes back. 226 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 But it seems like it should be there. 227 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Oh, and I'm sure someone knows something, whether they're alive or dead, I don't know. 228 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:04,160 And I don't necessarily mean the people involved specifically with her, her murder, Sherri's 229 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,160 murder. 230 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:12,240 But there wasn't one other set of eyes on it who maybe like helped cover it up, helped 231 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,600 the boy out if it was him, you know, like, yeah. 232 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,840 And you know, her when her body was found the next morning, it was later in the morning. 233 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,920 It was around 1030. 234 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,360 And granted, it was Christmas Eve. 235 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,880 So people are usually, you know, not on their usual schedules that day. 236 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,880 Any any way. 237 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Yeah. 238 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,560 You know, things are usually a little disrupted. 239 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,360 But according to all the newspaper reports, she was within view of 150 apartments. 240 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,600 So it's like somebody saw something. 241 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Yeah. 242 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Like just statistically, how is it? 243 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Right. 244 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,840 It's yeah, it's like too probable that someone saw something. 245 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,400 Somebody had to have seen unless everyone was gone. 246 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,800 You know, I don't know. 247 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,080 And I mean, and we know that they weren't because police were able to talk to around 248 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,480 50 people between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. 249 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,680 So people were there. 250 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Yeah. 251 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,200 And and again, that time period people are like, not my business, not my problem. 252 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,200 Right. 253 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,680 Like if you see even like people, you don't necessarily see that it's a child, but you 254 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,680 see like a tussle. 255 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:21,800 Even like if it's like not your family, you are taught to like, that's not your business. 256 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Yeah. 257 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,440 So yeah, even if you did notice something, it's like maybe. 258 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,040 So again, if you know anything about what happened to Sherri Swalley in December of 259 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:43,920 1973, please call the Atlanta PD at 404-614-6544 or to remain anonymous, you can call Crimestoppers 260 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,920 at 404-577-8477. 261 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:52,360 Because again, this is solvable. 262 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,000 It feels like it's right there. 263 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,920 And if we just went back and looked at it, applied today's technology. 264 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,200 Yeah. 265 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,720 If not solved, it could be punted forward. 266 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,480 I think that's a sports term. 267 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,480 Punting. 268 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,480 It's in football. 269 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Yeah. 270 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,200 But does that, does it move it forward? 271 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,200 Yeah. 272 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,600 It's like when the kicker kicks the ball and it goes through the goal post and like, go, 273 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,600 you know. 274 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,600 So that works here. 275 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,600 Yeah. 276 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,600 Take it. 277 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,600 Okay. 278 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,120 We will be posting some photos of Sherri. 279 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:29,160 A listener of ours that is very dedicated was so great this week and helped us in some 280 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,160 of our research. 281 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:35,320 So I just want to give a shout out to Hannah, who is in Columbus, Ohio, who was able to 282 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,440 look some things up for us, which was so helpful. 283 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,520 So thank you so much if you're listening. 284 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Truly there is like a community effort behind this podcast that we just don't talk about 285 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,360 because you know, we're talking about the cases themselves, but it is a community effort 286 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,800 called and missing for sure. 287 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:00,960 We have a lot of friends who help us out on on the research end. 288 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,160 And you know, while you're getting ready to listen to your next podcast here in the app, 289 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,040 if you just want to go ahead and subscribe so you don't miss an episode, we come out 290 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,880 with new episodes every single week. 291 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,040 And if you review it helps other people find us, which helps other people hear about these 292 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,960 cases because here at cold and missing where we are only covering cold cases and unresolved 293 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,960 to missing person cases. 294 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:29,140 So we want as many people to hear these stories and to get these names back out there as much 295 00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:30,140 as possible. 296 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:32,000 So thank you if you've already done that. 297 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,720 I really appreciate you. 298 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,920 But that's all I have. 299 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,200 So have a good week and stay safe. 300 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,200 Stay safe. 301 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:58,440 Stay Safe y'all