1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,000 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,440 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages and is intended for a mature 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,440 audience. 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,520 Welcome back everyone. 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,600 This is your host, Ali McLaughlin. 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,400 And this is your other host, Eli Sulkowski. 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,900 And we are back. 10 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:46,520 This is our official 13th episode. 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,720 I may have mislabeled them, but I think they're all in the correct order now. 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,800 And we're on the road right now. 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:01:00,320 We are coming to you from a hotel room in Cincinnati, Ohio, because Eli had some exciting 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,560 stuff happen this week. 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:08,680 Yeah, I have a furniture company and I moved some inventory down to our friend's storefront 16 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,040 store called The Generalist. 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,300 And I'm selling some furniture there, which is really exciting. 18 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:17,540 That's The Generalist in Johnson City, Tennessee. 19 00:01:17,540 --> 00:01:18,540 Really cool store. 20 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:20,080 If you're in the area, please check it out. 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,080 It's dope. 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,640 There's some really cool cow printed furniture and frames there from Moo Furniture Co., 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,480 which is all from me, Eli Sulkowski. 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,640 But you might hear a little hotel noise, maybe a little highway noise. 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,880 So I do apologize, but we have set up a really cool fort here to record this for y'all. 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:48,360 So hopefully we're able to keep the distractions and outside noise to a minimum, but just a 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,420 forewarning. 28 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:51,800 So what do you have for us today? 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,420 This is cold. 30 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:59,520 This is a cold case, but this is something that has happened more recently. 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,240 So I think this still has, I think all our cases still have a really good chance of being 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,240 solved. 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,560 But hopefully like Abby and Libby, this will be resolved really soon. 34 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,880 We recorded that episode and then a week later there was a development in the case. 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,280 I'm not saying we are responsible for that at all, but maybe we got a little magic, a 36 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,280 little mojo. 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,320 So I found a case. 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,720 It is a little bit more recent. 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,920 It's from 2021, but the leads have run out according to investigators. 40 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:31,380 So I think this is prime, cold and missing. 41 00:02:31,380 --> 00:02:36,720 So hopefully in recording this, we can generate maybe some more tips and just keep this case 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,640 out there, keep the name out there. 43 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:44,820 So this week we are covering Johnkelian Mathis, but he goes by John John. 44 00:02:44,820 --> 00:02:48,240 So that is what I will be calling him throughout this podcast. 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,960 He is 17 years old. 46 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,800 He was born on February 1st, 2004. 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,780 And this takes place August 8th of 2021 in Knoxville, Tennessee. 48 00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:02,040 So a little background about John John. 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:08,800 John John is 17 years old at this time and he's about to start his senior year and he's 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,000 an incredible student. 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,880 All of his teachers had great things to say about him. 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:19,660 He had a 3.25 GPA, very proud, his family is very proud of this. 53 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:27,000 He was projected to be a graduate scholar at his school and he had been named Mr. Freshman 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 and Mr. Sophomore, which is really cute. 55 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,400 And it's from everything I could gather and understand about this, it's like something 56 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,000 you had to run for and kind of be elected by your peers. 57 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,800 So two years in a row, he was the Mr. of the school, Mr. Freshman, Mr. Sophomore. 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,380 So he was about to start his senior year at Austin East High School in Knoxville, Tennessee. 59 00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:51,920 At his high school, he was part of a West African drummer group. 60 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,920 He was running back of the football team and all of his friends, his family, teachers, 61 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,120 they all talked about the smile that he had. 62 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,920 He always had a smile on his face and an infectious laugh. 63 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,260 He loved to listen to music, skateboard, and he loved doing backflips. 64 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:13,560 This was a very specific thing that he would do. 65 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:19,640 And he had started his own t-shirt company in high school, which was called YBC. 66 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,000 So Saturday, August 7th, 2021. 67 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,160 This day is the 35th annual Lonsdale Community Homecoming. 68 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,720 And so this is a neighborhood homecoming. 69 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,820 When I first read this, I thought it was like a school dance kind of homecoming, but it's 70 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:38,400 just like a big block party. 71 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,880 And hundreds of people attend this event. 72 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,760 There's a lot that goes on during this. 73 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,520 So there's a parade. 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,560 It's called the Lonsdale Homecoming Gloria Garner Memorial Parade. 75 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,040 And there's bands and dances and it looks like a really big event. 76 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,400 And then during the day, there are kid activities. 77 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,800 And in the evening, they have live music. 78 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,280 So it's just like a full day, like block celebration that happens, which is pretty cool. 79 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:09,400 So this is happening all day, August 7th. 80 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,120 And John John was working during the day. 81 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,360 So when he gets off of work, he heads over, because he lives in this neighborhood. 82 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,080 So he heads over to the homecoming celebration to hang out. 83 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,880 So as the celebration was winding down in the neighborhood, people were still there. 84 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,080 They were still hanging out. 85 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,480 And a lot of people ended up gathering in parking lot D of the Lonsdale Homes, which 86 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,160 is right there where the celebration was taking place. 87 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,400 And if you're familiar with Knoxville, this would be the corner of Minnesota Ave and Pascal 88 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Drive. 89 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,480 So the crowd continues to stay there well into the morning hour. 90 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,180 So this is Sunday morning, now of August 8th. 91 00:05:50,180 --> 00:05:56,800 And a fight breaks out in the crowd and shots are fired and three people are hit. 92 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:04,400 There's Tricia Fisher, who's 29 years old, and Anthony Taylor, who's 25 years old. 93 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,240 And then John John Mathis, who we are talking about, who's 17. 94 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,200 So all of them are rushed to the University of Tennessee Medical Center. 95 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,200 And this is ultimately where John John will pass away from his injuries, from his gunshot 96 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,360 wound. 97 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,520 But Tricia and Anthony, they both recover from the shooting. 98 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,920 So John John's the only one who passes away. 99 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:35,880 The Knoxville Police Chief, Eve Thomas, she said, quote, investigators have determined 100 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,140 that a crowd numbering in the hundreds were gathered when the shooting occurred and a 101 00:06:40,140 --> 00:06:46,440 significant number of those individuals likely directly witnessed the shooting, end quote. 102 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:53,560 And then as the news of John John's death spread, one of his teachers was quoted as 103 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,360 saying he was in my drum classes. 104 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,160 He played football and he was just great at everything he put his hands on. 105 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,120 He was the one student who always asked questions. 106 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,360 He wanted to be great at everything. 107 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,280 When you were around John John, you knew he was one of those kids that was going to make 108 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,500 it, somewhere, someday. 109 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,560 He affected every teacher he had. 110 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,220 I know he did. 111 00:07:16,220 --> 00:07:21,720 He was just a charismatic, great kid with an amazing personality, end quote. 112 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:28,760 So the next day, Monday, August 9th, 2021, this would have been John John's first day 113 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,800 of senior year. 114 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,440 And again, to quote the same teacher, to start school out like this after working all summer 115 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,460 with the youth to try to prevent this violence is like a blow to my stomach. 116 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:42,980 The first day of school was hard. 117 00:07:42,980 --> 00:07:48,640 I've been teaching 17 years and I think yesterday was probably the hardest day I ever had, end 118 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,640 quote. 119 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:55,040 And on Monday, it's reported that police also begin canvassing the neighborhood for evidence 120 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,400 and talking with witnesses. 121 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,920 I'm not sure if this was happening on Sunday as well because the shooting takes place at 122 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,920 around 1 a.m. 123 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,680 So there's a full Sunday before we get into Monday. 124 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,360 But it's reported for the first time that the police began investigating his death. 125 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:19,380 And then the next day, that Tuesday, again, this is the police chief, Eve Thomas. 126 00:08:19,380 --> 00:08:24,840 She says, quote, thus far we have received five tips through Crimestoppers and investigators 127 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,800 are looking into that information that has been received. 128 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,040 But we still need more and are urging those who are present to come forward and submit 129 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,940 a tip anonymously. 130 00:08:34,940 --> 00:08:40,960 It is imperative as we seek justice for this senseless act of violence, end quote. 131 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:48,040 So a week comes and goes, Thursday, August 19th, this is the day of John John's funeral 132 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:54,960 or as his family and friends call it, his home going celebration. 133 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,760 And it's held at the Greater Warner Tabernacle Church. 134 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,960 And organizers of his home going celebration actually said that they needed a bigger church 135 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,280 because there were so many people that wanted to say goodbye and show respect and love to 136 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,280 the family. 137 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:14,480 It was standing room only in the church and people were waiting to get in. 138 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Lots of people spoke at his home going celebration. 139 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,120 His coach spoke and said, quote, God gave John John good genetics and God gave John 140 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,400 John talent, but God anointed his smile. 141 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,560 So again, just talking about this infectious smile that he always had on. 142 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:38,520 And John John's girlfriend also spoke and she said, quote, you turned my darkness into 143 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,000 light and somehow made everything feel all right. 144 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,120 You were there when I had nobody, end quote. 145 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,960 And he was also honored with a dance performance, a drum routine, and his teammates dedicated 146 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,880 his number to his family as well. 147 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,720 And he was number 28. 148 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,660 So that number is dedicated to John John. 149 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:06,720 On the day of his home going celebration, again, the chief of police says that part 150 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,680 of the blame is on state lawmakers for the increase in guns on the street. 151 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:20,760 And this is because in 2021, lawmakers made it so anyone 21 and older who can legally 152 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,960 own a gun is allowed to carry it concealed or open without a permit. 153 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:33,040 I didn't realize that Tennessee had such loose carrying laws. 154 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,760 Texas I know. 155 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Like I expect that, but for whatever reason, just like Tennessee, I didn't think it was 156 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:45,520 that like loose with it, but it from my standards, you know. 157 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:52,960 So then that fall, this is August 17th, the football team has their senior night and they, 158 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,560 of course, honor John John as well. 159 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:59,040 His coach says, quote, his locker is still there. 160 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,560 We've got his jersey, his helmet, his shoulder pads, everything. 161 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:03,820 We're a family. 162 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:04,820 We grow together. 163 00:11:04,820 --> 00:11:05,920 We hurt together. 164 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,880 I think recognizing John John helps the grieving process. 165 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,880 End quote. 166 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,640 In November, two teens were charged in a separate case of another teen who was shot and killed. 167 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:23,600 His name is Stanley Freeman Jr. and Stanley Freeman, he is also a student at the same 168 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,520 high school that John John was at. 169 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:32,880 And these two teenagers are charged in his murder, but they are also charged with an 170 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:40,040 attempted murder because on January 19th at the corner of Magnolia Avenue and Cherry Street 171 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:45,360 near a gas station, the two teens fired a gun multiple times. 172 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,520 At that time, no victims were struck by gunfire, but it did hit a nearby car that had John 173 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,520 John sitting in it with an 18 year old girl. 174 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:00,880 And it's unclear if John John was the target of the shooting or if it was just a random 175 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,880 shooting. 176 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:08,440 But John John is not hurt in this January 19th shooting, but ultimately he is shot and 177 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,000 killed just eight months later. 178 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,240 But these two teens, they're charged with first degree murder for Stanley Freeman Jr. 179 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,780 and then attempted murder for John John Mathis. 180 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:24,520 And then just a few months ago, John John's class graduated and John John's family was 181 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,260 able to walk and receive his diploma for him. 182 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:33,600 And his mom, Koke Boatwright, she says, quote, but now that I have my strength, I'm not looking 183 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,680 at it like John is gone. 184 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:41,200 Instead, I'm going to make them see my baby more than they've ever seen him. 185 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:47,320 It's on me to make sure everyone understands and feels this and keeps remembering his life. 186 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,680 I always played the tough role. 187 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,980 This city hasn't seen me cry since I lost my baby. 188 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:57,520 It's going to be hard, but I'm going to be right there to get his diploma. 189 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,960 He earned that. 190 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,700 He's my first child and he always had my back, end quote. 191 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:11,440 And John John is one of three seniors who are killed in 2021 from this high school. 192 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Stanley Freeman Jr., who I just mentioned, but ultimately those two teens are charged 193 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,740 in his case and they're still awaiting trial at this time. 194 00:13:21,740 --> 00:13:28,240 Another boy in their high school, Anthony Thompson Jr., he was shot and killed by police 195 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,400 in front of his best friend at school. 196 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:37,100 And to quote a newspaper, police video of the encounter shows Anthony asking police 197 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:41,920 repeatedly to wait as they approached him in a bathroom before one officer fired at 198 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,200 him after a gun in the pocket of his hoodie fell out and discharged after it hit the floor. 199 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:54,720 He was carrying a gun because he was fearful for his safety, end quote. 200 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,240 Ultimately the courts will rule that the shooting is justified. 201 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:07,200 So John Johns is the only unsolved case from the senior class. 202 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:13,320 He's one of three in his senior class who was murdered, but ultimately he is one of 203 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:22,440 six because in 2021, six Austin East high schoolers were shot and killed. 204 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:30,120 And this is a high school of 642 students and they lost six kids in 2021 to gun violence. 205 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:36,720 And of those six cases, three of those cases are still unsolved and that's Janaria Mohammed, 206 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Jamerion Gillette, and then John John Mathis, who we are covering today. 207 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:50,800 And then in Knoxville, Tennessee, teens made up one fifth of all gun violence in the city. 208 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:57,520 I kept thinking about the kids there and like the trauma of COVID and then like you're losing 209 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:03,120 classmates at such a rapid pace to like such violence. 210 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,880 I really feel bad for all of these students in this school because they all have to have 211 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,080 been affected by this. 212 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:18,120 In response to the gun violence, Knoxville Police Department said, quote, we recognize 213 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,920 that people want answers and the victims deserve justice and we want those things as well. 214 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,600 These types of cases take thoroughness and persistence. 215 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Investigators are working carefully and diligently to get answers and justice that we all want, 216 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,080 end quote. 217 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:41,720 But to date, no suspects have ever been named or are in custody. 218 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,840 There have been several tips received, but investigators have said this several times 219 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,720 that they need more tips. 220 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:58,720 And if you have any, they ask you to call 865-215-7165 and you can remain anonymous. 221 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:06,280 You can also go to East TN Valley Crime Stoppers dot org. 222 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,200 That's East TN Valley Crime Stoppers dot org. 223 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Or there's also an app for Knoxville Police called P3 where you can also submit tips. 224 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:28,760 The sources for today's podcast is East Tennessee Valley Crime Stoppers, WATE, WBIR, Knoxville 225 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Focus, and the Knoxville New Centennial who, the Knoxville New Centennial, I have to say, 226 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,540 they have covered this case the most and that is where I got most of my information from 227 00:16:40,540 --> 00:16:42,600 on this case. 228 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,880 So they have done a really great job reporting it. 229 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Just a shout out to them. 230 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:53,080 And also, speaking of shout out, we want to give a shout out to our listeners who bought 231 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,240 us a coffee this past week. 232 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,240 Thank you so much. 233 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,520 That was Kathy that bought us a coffee and Maura. 234 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,520 Thank you so much. 235 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,920 It was so cool to get your emails and to hear that you love the podcast and you 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