1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,000 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,420 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages and is intended for a mature 4 00:00:22,420 --> 00:00:23,600 audience. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,640 Welcome back everyone. 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Welcome to Cold and Missing. 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,040 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin. 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,840 I am your other host, Eli Sulkowski. 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,840 We are husband and wife and I do the research. 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,360 Eli brings the reactions. 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:55,080 That's not true. 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,520 You play a very important role. 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,680 I'm also, I'm making a movie right now. 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,520 We don't need to talk about that, but I'm a busy guy. 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Yeah, you're a busy guy. 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,760 You have a lot of side hustles. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle. 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,540 But no, I do the research, bring you the story and Eli's here listening for the first time 20 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:20,440 and reacting and being an active listener with you all. 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,280 So, yeah, that's Cold and Missing. 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,280 That's where we're at. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,280 That's where we're at. 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,680 What episode is this? 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,200 This is eight, if I'm not mistaken. 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Ocho. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Ocho. 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,200 Wow. 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Sweet. 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,120 Two months we've been doing this. 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Yeah. 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,120 Hell yeah, brother. 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,120 Hell yeah, brother. 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Yeah. 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,120 Wow. 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,120 That's really cool. 37 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,120 I'm very proud of you, honey. 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Thank you. 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,120 Thank you. 40 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,280 It's been my goal just to get past that 10 episode hump. 41 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,960 A lot of podcasts will have what's called pod fade. 42 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,160 So there's a lot of podcasts- 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,640 What's that, the honeymoon phase? 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Yeah. 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,120 So there's a lot of podcasts out there in the world. 46 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,280 This is when you start seeing the underwear on the floor. 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Yeah. 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Yeah, the dishes in the sink. 49 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,400 You start to notice. 50 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Okay. 51 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 52 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,920 So a lot of podcasts start to fade. 53 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,560 And a lot don't make it past their 10th episode. 54 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,720 So that's my goal, make it past 10. 55 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,080 I want to make it way past 10, but as of right now, those are short term goals. 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,080 Yeah, wow. 57 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,360 That made my heart sink a little bit. 58 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,480 I was like, what the hell is she saying? 59 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,480 I don't know this plan. 60 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,480 She's saying it on the air. 61 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,480 It's live. 62 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,480 It's live. 63 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,480 It's not live. 64 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,480 It's not. 65 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,480 They know that. 66 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,680 Wow, giggly. 67 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,600 This is our first time recording at night, so we're a little tired. 68 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,600 Yeah. 69 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Yeah, we've had a full day. 70 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,160 So this is interesting. 71 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,880 We're coming to you Sunday night. 72 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,840 This will drop tomorrow, Monday. 73 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Sunday night. 74 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Eli and I went to Monster Trucks recently. 75 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,720 So there's been a lot of announcer voice in the house. 76 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,080 And also, by the way, if you've never been to a Monster Truck rally, go. 77 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,080 Go. 78 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,120 What are you waiting for? 79 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,120 Yeah. 80 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,520 So you don't need to know a single thing about Monster Trucks to get into it immediately. 81 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,040 I knew nothing and immediately was like, OK, I get it. 82 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,040 They're big and they're doing stuff. 83 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,800 But I got the racing and the freestyle. 84 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,520 They're like bears on wheels. 85 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Yeah, the handstand thing they're doing. 86 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,520 I got it. 87 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,520 I kept up. 88 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:39,280 And shout out to our friend Keaton, who is an announcer for Monster Jam. 89 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,200 And she hooked us up with tickets. 90 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,680 So if you're listening, thank you. 91 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Yeah, thank you, Keaton. 92 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,680 You. 93 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Hooray. 94 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Yeah, it's so cool. 95 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Shout out to Keaton. 96 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Shout out to Monster Trucks. 97 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,520 A big shout out to Trucks. 98 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Because they're so big. 99 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Do you remember what we're on this week? 100 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,960 Missing. 101 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 102 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,280 You got it. 103 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,280 So we're on Missing this week. 104 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,200 It's a 50-50 chance every week. 105 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Yeah, so you got that going for you. 106 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,120 True or false? 107 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,040 Wowie. 108 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,680 So we are covering Joanna Gino Wright. 109 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,440 And this takes place December 18, 2016. 110 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:33,720 I'm going to call Joanna by Jino because that is the name that she went by. 111 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,240 And just like a quick note at the top here about pronouns. 112 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:44,440 She is a part of the LGBT community and is a proud stud, her words. 113 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,580 And so I just did a lot of digging on her Facebook just to make sure I was using the 114 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:49,580 correct pronouns. 115 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:53,040 And I saw videos where she was referring to herself as she her. 116 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,960 So I will use those pronouns throughout our podcast today. 117 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,680 Jino is 33 years old when this takes place in 2016. 118 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,680 But as of today in 2022, she would be 38 years old. 119 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:13,400 And this takes place in the Marquette Park neighborhood on the south side of Chicago. 120 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,200 A little bit of background information about her. 121 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,560 She's an LGBT activist and a proud stud. 122 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:28,320 She worked as a hairstylist specializing in braids and locks and had lived in the Marquette 123 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,760 neighborhood for 30 years and was well known and well liked by the community. 124 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,100 Hell yeah. 125 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:38,240 She also goes by the name Jojo and Doo Wop. 126 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,240 Wow. 127 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Incredible nicknames. 128 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Jino, Jojo and Doo Wop. 129 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,400 I would take any of those. 130 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,400 I know. 131 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Great nickname. 132 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,400 I'm like, yeah, call me Jino. 133 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,400 What's up Jino? 134 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,240 Like what a great, it's a great name to shout. 135 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Yeah. 136 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Everyone wants a friend named Jino 137 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 For sure. 138 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,120 At the time of her disappearance, she was five foot two, a hundred pounds. 139 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:09,080 She had brown hair that she wore in locks, but the ends were dyed a really bright red. 140 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Cool. 141 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Yeah. 142 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:17,300 Brown eyes and lots of tattoos all over her body, but both of her sleeves or both of her 143 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:19,760 arms had tattoo sleeves on them. 144 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:26,560 And so a couple of her more noticeable tattoos out there for our listeners to be aware. 145 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:33,640 On one of her arms, she has the name Londa below two rainbow venus's, the name Joseph, 146 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:40,320 red orange, yellow, green and purple stars, swirls, a rose on her chest. 147 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:47,140 She has the name Mary and then 1936 through 2009 underneath it. 148 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:49,600 And then she has a tattoo on her throat as well. 149 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,040 And I couldn't quite make out what it is, but there's definitely like a number two that's 150 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 very large and centered on her throat. 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,320 It's very noticeable and then some words around it, but I couldn't quite make out the words 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,640 from the photographs that I was looking at, but it's a large number two. 153 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,440 So let's get into it. 154 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,180 Let's do it. 155 00:07:08,180 --> 00:07:17,040 So December 18th, 2016, Jino was walking home from a friend's house on 63rd Avenue between 156 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Rockwell and Tallman and 63rd for those unfamiliar with Chicago or with this area in Chicago. 157 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,440 This is a very busy street. 158 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,000 There's a major bus that runs along it. 159 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,800 The 63 bus runs along it and there's actually a bus stop within this block that we're talking 160 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:46,760 about and there's also a very large senior assisted living center that runs along several 161 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,840 blocks, but also includes this block that we're talking about. 162 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,720 So very busy intersection, lots of traffic. 163 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:06,280 At around 1 45 PM, a blue 2015 2016 Mazda pulls up next to Jino as she's walking home. 164 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:12,000 The blue Mazda has Ohio plates on it. 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,680 So three men jump out and attempt to throw Jino into the car. 166 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Jino is yelling for help and trying to fight three men off while this is happening. 167 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,240 I know my heart is racing. 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Yeah, I'm like this is like, well, I'm speaking from before my medical transition. 169 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Well, I guess it's still now, but I think it's most women's worst fear. 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,600 And I guess it's still mine too. 171 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:51,000 So it's really, it hit me like, oh, my body immediately responded. 172 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Yeah. 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Every time I read it, like my heart races. 174 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:00,680 So three men are attempting to pull her into this car, but she's fighting them off. 175 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:07,160 And then possibly a fourth man or one of the men, it's unclear if it's three or four men, 176 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:13,920 but possibly a fourth man hits her in the head and throws her in the car. 177 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,580 Yeah. 178 00:09:15,580 --> 00:09:22,120 So they get her into the car and witnesses see Jino being abducted because it's 1 45 179 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,120 in the afternoon. 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,000 It is during the middle of the day. 181 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,560 No one did anything. 182 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,780 Well, immediately 9-1-1 is called. 183 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:37,360 So police are there quickly, but nobody intercepted as she's fighting. 184 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Why? 185 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,360 I don't know. 186 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:45,760 I don't know if maybe people saw like, you know, at the old folks home. 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,200 So they were like inside, like up several flights of stairs. 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,320 So like the quickest thing they could do was call 9-1-1. 189 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,680 Like they couldn't, I don't know if there was nobody out on the streets. 190 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:58,560 I don't know what you would think cars would pull over. 191 00:09:58,560 --> 00:09:59,560 You would think that. 192 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:00,560 Um, yeah. 193 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:04,740 And again, it's December, so not a lot of people are outside. 194 00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:05,740 It's colder. 195 00:10:05,740 --> 00:10:08,200 Yeah, but, but witnesses see it. 196 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Oh, oh, she, she is like screaming for help when this happens. 197 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 So I know, I know. 198 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:24,480 Investigators will attempt to track Jino by using her cell phone, but the last location 199 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,080 for the phone is where she's abducted from. 200 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,400 They probably immediately turned it off. 201 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,840 That's what I'm assuming. 202 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Um, it, it's unclear. 203 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,120 I could never find, um, again, like other cases that we've gone over before, there's 204 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,080 not a lot of information out there about this. 205 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Sometimes there's missing pieces to our puzzle because, because they are, there are cases 206 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,920 that are on, they're cold and missing. 207 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Like we don't have it. 208 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Pieces are going to be missing. 209 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Pieces are going to be missing. 210 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Exactly. 211 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,880 So, and I mean, our hope is that somebody out there knows something. 212 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Yeah. 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Hopefully one of you has a missing piece or knows someone who knows someone who has a missing 214 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,840 piece, you know, that's like why we're doing this. 215 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Yeah. 216 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,400 It's unclear if her cell phone is retrieved from that location. 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,200 If maybe it's dropped and that's why it's pinged or if it's immediately shut off. 218 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Uh, unclear, but the last location it pings is the place she is abducted from. 219 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,160 This happens December 18th, Christmas and New Year's will come and go. 220 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,240 And there's not a lot of reports about it or what's happening. 221 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:37,160 But in January, January 11th, actually the family will gather to pass out flyers and 222 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,720 to get the word out about her being missing and her abduction. 223 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,720 And police at this point are not calling it a kidnapping. 224 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:55,000 And as of 2022, in their description of her case and like her last known whereabouts, 225 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,920 they'll say that she was possibly abducted. 226 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,680 To me, it's an abduction. 227 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:04,320 If somebody is yelling help and being forced into a vehicle where I'm sitting, that's 228 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,320 an abduction. 229 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,320 Yeah. 230 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,480 I'm going to go ahead and say yeah to that. 231 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,520 As of January, 2017. 232 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,800 So this would just be a few weeks after Jino went missing, but we're in a new year now. 233 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Police are gathering security video in the area because again, it's 2017. 234 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,760 There is a lot of good security footage out there. 235 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:31,360 And this is again, a busy road for our listeners out there that follow us on Instagram. 236 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,800 I'm going to include some Google Earth images that I mean, it'll show you even if you're 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,880 completely unfamiliar with Chicago that this is a busy road and it would be wild to think 238 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,880 about somebody being abducted in broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon and it's still 239 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,040 go this far with nothing. 240 00:12:53,040 --> 00:13:00,640 And as of January, 2017, the alderman for the ward will offer a $500 reward for information. 241 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,640 And then there's not a lot of updates. 242 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:12,760 The next update that I could really find happens November 15th of 2017. 243 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,440 Your birthday. 244 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,320 That stuff always happens on my birthday. 245 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,600 I know October, November, December always has like wild stuff happening. 246 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:28,000 I know I remember like, I think from like some of the like classic serial killers who 247 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,880 don't need any more attention. 248 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,200 They tend tended to kill a lot around my birthday. 249 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,680 Hey, didn't you know I was going to be born 40 years later? 250 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,680 How could you? 251 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:40,680 The drama. 252 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:49,480 So yeah, almost a year later on November 15, 2017, police confirm that they have located 253 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,760 the car that they believe was used in the abduction of Gino. 254 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,640 But there was no trace of Jino anywhere in the car. 255 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:06,480 And I saw one report that the vehicle with the Ohio license plates, this 2015, 2016 Mazda, 256 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,880 that it could possibly have been a rental car. 257 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,480 So it'd be like professionally cleaned in between uses and stuff. 258 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,480 Right. 259 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Yeah. 260 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,920 And there would be like hundreds of like fingerprints and stuff. 261 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Yeah. 262 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,040 But there should be a pretty clear record of who had the car on that date. 263 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,600 You know? 264 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Yeah. 265 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,800 So and that's, yeah. 266 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:41,520 No report of who rented the car, if it was a rental car, even if it was a rental car. 267 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,080 But yeah, and it could have been a rental that was stolen. 268 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,240 Yeah, there's a lot of possibilities about this car. 269 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,200 But police confirmed that they seem to have located it, but there was no trace of Jino 270 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,640 with the car. 271 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:03,800 And so at the one year mark, December 16, 2017, or around the one year mark, I should 272 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,960 say, family hold a vigil for Jino. 273 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:13,640 At the vigil, the family of Marlo, I think it's pronounced Gully. 274 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,400 I'm going to look more into this. 275 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,440 His family is also there. 276 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,200 And Marlo is a friend of Jino. 277 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:29,360 And Marlo goes missing within blocks of where Jino was last seen on October 9, 2017. 278 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,280 So less than a year later. 279 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,560 And like I said, Marlo and Jino were friends and knew each other. 280 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Yeah. 281 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:45,040 So his family is there to support and to be with Jino's family. 282 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,480 But then they are also joined by the family of Shanti Bohannan. 283 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,520 And she went missing within blocks, July 23, 2016. 284 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,280 So that's five months before Jino. 285 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,360 And yeah, disappeared within blocks of Jino and Marlo. 286 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:10,160 And her body is later found in a trash can in an abandoned building. 287 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,360 You've got to be fucking kidding me. 288 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,440 And the case is still unsolved. 289 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:23,960 So Jino, Marlo, and Shanti all knew each other according to community members. 290 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:31,720 So they all seem to have known each other, but Marlo and Jino knew each other the best. 291 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Like they are in like Facebook photos together, that kind of thing. 292 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Wow. 293 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Oh shit. 294 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Yeah. 295 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,720 So community believe- In a trash can. 296 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,720 I know. 297 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Well, there's also, and I think I'm going to cover like this stuff and Marlo as well, 298 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,000 because they are both unresolved. 299 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,240 So I think I'm going to cover them kind of right after this as like part of a little 300 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,360 series because they all do seem to be connected. 301 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:13,120 So also the Chicago Strangler theory and two of those bodies were found in trash cans. 302 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:17,600 So I want to like look into it all a little bit more. 303 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Yeah. 304 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,960 I think that, I definitely think that we should. 305 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:27,520 And I have a feeling that some of our listeners will want to like maybe go on that navigational 306 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,520 journey with us. 307 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,520 Yeah. 308 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Yeah. 309 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,440 So community members believe that all of these deaths are connected, but police have never 310 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,960 confirmed or denied this. 311 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,720 And then to quote a community member, Dawn Valenti, quote, we know that something is 312 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,920 happening over here, that people just keep disappearing over here, end quote. 313 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:54,880 Sierra Mobley, who was Jino's girlfriend at the time, is also quoted as saying, God is 314 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,160 the only one to have the last say, no matter what they could be doing to her, if he's not 315 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,720 ready for her to come home, he won't send for her, end quote. 316 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,720 But that's it. 317 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,720 What? 318 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,720 That's it. 319 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:16,460 That's all that I could find on Jino. 320 00:18:16,460 --> 00:18:22,640 And I know we discussed this before when we talked about Trevelle Henley, who is missing 321 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,560 in Columbus, Ohio. 322 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:31,120 You know, Jino is a young black gay woman, you know? 323 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:36,160 And there was no real big media coverage when she was abducted. 324 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,160 Yeah. 325 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,160 I'm like, I'm like embarrassed that I don't know about this. 326 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Yeah. 327 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,000 Almost like I have that feeling like, I don't know. 328 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Well, yeah. 329 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,400 I mean, it's Chicago, you know, this is my city. 330 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,400 Yeah. 331 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,400 You know, like how do I not? 332 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,400 It's our city. 333 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,240 And you know, we're part of the queer community. 334 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Yeah, exactly. 335 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:01,360 And it's, you know, how could this happen to somebody in our community, you know, and 336 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:02,840 us not know about it? 337 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,840 Yeah. 338 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,560 I mean, it's like the whole, like, if she had been a young white woman who was being 339 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,760 grabbed off of the sidewalk in the middle of the day, it just like, I don't think would 340 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,840 have happened the same way. 341 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,840 No. 342 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,200 Well, I mean, we almost have like a direct comparison. 343 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:28,760 There were those recent attempted kidnappings in the West Loop, West town area of Chicago. 344 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Yeah. 345 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,800 You know, but they were attempts. 346 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:40,280 They were attempts because the women I believe were white that were being attempted to be 347 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,680 abducted, but people intervened every time. 348 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,680 Yeah. 349 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:45,880 It's like, see, that's what I'm saying. 350 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,280 I guess. 351 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:54,880 Sad that like somebody was asking for help and nobody came, screaming for help and nobody 352 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,480 came even though there were people there. 353 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Yeah. 354 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:04,800 I mean, that happened to me on the train when they grabbed my shit. 355 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,760 I was on a train filled with people and nobody came over. 356 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Like, yeah, folks, a lot of the time folks don't intervene when they should. 357 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,800 Yeah. 358 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:33,840 It's that theory of like every day you are going to like pay a price for like being quiet 359 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,600 or for being brave, you know? 360 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:42,160 Like there's always like a cost and it's like, what am I going to pay for today? 361 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,440 And most people like, I will pay to be quiet, to just like not engage. 362 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,440 Yeah. 363 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,000 To not be involved. 364 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Yeah. 365 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Sorry. 366 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,800 I didn't mean to pull the focus over to me. 367 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,800 It just like, I know it's the exact same, but that experience of like yelling for help 368 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:08,120 and seeing other people and like thinking like, why is the help not happening? 369 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:17,080 And like having that thought while you are in the moment of the danger. 370 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,240 That's where like the worst nightmare is coming through is like, not only is this happening, 371 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,080 it's almost like in a dream, you know, when you're like trying to stop what's happening 372 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,680 and it won't, but like you know that you can. 373 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:35,760 That's like what was going through my mind also in this situation while I was being attacked, 374 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,720 which is like a whole other level of trauma, you know? 375 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,120 So what are our sources? 376 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:51,800 Is there anything that, anyway, we can be helpful or similar listeners or sources and 377 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,800 stuff? 378 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Yeah. 379 00:21:53,800 --> 00:22:01,040 So we have some sources for today's story, The Charlie Project, ABC 7 News, Disappeared 380 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Blog, R Black Girls, CBS Chicago, NBC 5 Chicago, Gino's Own Facebook and Gino's Family's Facebook 381 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,160 and then WGN 9 Chicago. 382 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:23,000 So if our listeners know anything about the disappearance, the abduction of Joanna Jino 383 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:32,840 Wright, they are encouraged to call the Chicago Police Department at 312-747-8380. 384 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,960 Thank you all so much for listening. 385 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Yeah, we cannot say enough how much joy it is bringing us to like watch the following 386 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:49,640 numbers grow and not just because that's awesome, but like because that means more eyes on these 387 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,600 cases that really deserve the attention. 388 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,600 Absolutely. 389 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Yeah. 390 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,600 More eyes and ears. 391 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Yes. 392 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,240 Yeah. 393 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:06,160 Being able to bring light to cases that aren't as well known and especially that are unsolved. 394 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,040 Like, I know this has been talked about a lot recently, especially with the Dahlmer 395 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:17,840 documentaries dropping on Netflix or the Ryan Murphy documentary type thing. 396 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,560 It's not like a true documentary, but biopic, whatever. 397 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:30,720 You know, about the ethics of true crime as a genre and what that means, like the content 398 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,080 that you're consuming, right? 399 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,680 Like it's somebody's worst day. 400 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,280 It's a family's worst day. 401 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,200 And you know, that sucks. 402 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,600 It sucks that sometimes families are forced to relive that trauma over and over without 403 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,160 consenting to it. 404 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,160 Yeah. 405 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,160 And I think, you know, from our perspective, since we haven't experienced something, you 406 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,960 know, exactly like that, like that sucks is like putting it as lightly as possible. 407 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Yeah. 408 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,200 Like, yeah, I just like, we talked about it. 409 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,440 Like I couldn't imagine like, you know, putting on something like Dahlmer and being like, 410 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,120 that's my sibling being murdered right now. 411 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,120 Yeah. 412 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,160 That's like that. 413 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Yeah. 414 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:20,760 So, you know, here at Cold and Missing, we just do cold cases that still need answers 415 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,960 and unresolved missing person cases. 416 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,760 And part of when I'm researching these cases, I always look to see like, is the family still 417 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,000 really active in this search and like, are they still wanting answers? 418 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,080 Because if there are recent reports of them asking for media attention, then for sure, 419 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,000 like yeah, for sure cover it. 420 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 And we feel good about that. 421 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,280 Ali does, well, first of all, she does very extensive research across the board, but she 422 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,680 makes it a point to make sure that, you know, privacy is respected. 423 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,880 Sometimes families, they don't want it brought up again, even if it's cold or missing. 424 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:09,880 So Ellie makes sure that these are cases that people still want public attention on. 425 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,880 Yeah. 426 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:17,960 So, I don't know if you've been thinking about like your true crime ethics recently, if all 427 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,800 the discourse has got you thinking about it. 428 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,560 I just want to be forthcoming with where I'm sitting and like where I'm pulling my cases 429 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,480 from and my motivation behind it. 430 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,400 I'm never wanting to shock and awe you. 431 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:39,520 I'm just genuinely trying to get all the information out to give as complete of a timeline as possible 432 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,720 to try to get memories jogging and tips flowing. 433 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Yeah. 434 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,520 I understand crimes in a timeline fashion, so that's how they're always presented. 435 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,720 I hope you like it too. 436 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,560 I love it. 437 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,560 Yeah. 438 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,560 You're doing great. 439 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,560 Yeah. 440 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,440 And with that, thank you so much. 441 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:11,360 We will post pictures of Gino and the road where the abduction took place on our Instagram, 442 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:12,760 which is at Cold and Missing. 443 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,740 I also started a TikTok. 444 00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:19,080 It was very complicated for me. 445 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,360 I was very embarrassed to do it. 446 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,040 I was glad I had the house to myself. 447 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Oh my gosh. 448 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,120 It was like being in a nursing home. 449 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,960 I was like, well, how do you get the thing to come up? 450 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,960 I was Ali's orderly for the TikTok. 451 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,960 Truly. 452 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,960 Teaching. 453 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,960 So, you can find us on there too. 454 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,400 I'm sure we'll only get better and better as I learn what all the buttons are. 455 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,720 It doesn't... When you're as hilarious as you are, you really don't have to do much, 456 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,720 honestly. 457 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:56,000 Oh, but that's for your personal... 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