1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,000 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,420 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages and is intended for a mature 4 00:00:22,420 --> 00:00:23,600 audience. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:35,160 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:36,640 Hello everyone. 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Hello. 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,560 Welcome back to Cold and Missing. 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,080 I am your co-host, Eli, and this is my lovely wife. 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,840 Ali McLaughlin, and I'm your host for Cold and Missing. 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Welcome back, everyone. 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Hope you enjoyed our new intro music. 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Yeah, that was a really great choice, honey. 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Thank you. 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,320 Well, I narrowed it down to eight, and then I had Eli help me pick out from those finalists. 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,800 So hope you all enjoyed. 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,040 We love a spooky stringed instrument. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Always. 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,280 We love a fast-paced, nerve-wracking, spooky sound. 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,280 Love it. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,760 That's why the violin was invented. 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,800 For scaring people. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Originally, when the violin came out, it was associated with the devil. 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,280 That's why the devil went down to Georgia, and he plays a violin, because you could be 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,280 so rhythmic with a violin, kind of for the first time, that people were like, well, this 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,440 is the devil's music for sure, because people are dancing. 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,620 Fun fact, Ali actually plays the violin. 28 00:01:38,620 --> 00:01:41,560 She won't brag about herself on here, but I will for her. 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:49,880 She is a human of many talents, and she can slay on the old fiddle. 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,920 It's called sawing, when it's on a fiddle. 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Oh, sorry. 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 What did I say? 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,280 She can chop the fiddle. 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,280 I didn't say that, but. 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,160 No, he said, I don't even remember what you said. 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,560 OK, so I'm about to be sad about something. 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Oh, yes. 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,760 Really sad? 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,920 Is this cold or missing? 40 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:17,720 So, this is missing, but he is considered endangered missing. 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,360 So the police do not think that he is alive. 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Understood. 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,820 I am ready to be hurt. 44 00:02:24,820 --> 00:02:31,940 So today we're going to be talking about the missing person case of Trevell Lamar Henley, 45 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:39,040 and he was 15 years old when he went missing July 2, 1999 in Columbus, Ohio. 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Today he would be 38 years old. 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:48,240 In July of 1999, Trevell is living on the 1300 block of Republic Avenue with his grandmother 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,660 and brother. 49 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:53,600 His grandma had raised both him and his brother since infancy. 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,680 So this is his home, really the only home he's ever known. 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,440 We love grandmas who are mamas. 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,200 We love grandmas who are mamas. 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Trevell was a student at Medina Middle School where it's reported that he loved sports and 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,400 reading. 55 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,480 He went by the nickname Nuke. 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,680 And at the time of his disappearance, it was reported that he was trying to join a gang 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,880 in Columbus called the Blood Street Villains, and it was possible that he was jumped into 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,360 the gang already when he went missing. 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,760 And I only bring this up because it's important later. 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,880 So Friday, July 2, 1999, Trevell was last seen by his younger brother walking to the 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,960 home of Daylin Green. 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,640 Now Daylin is 19 years old and he lives on the 1200 block of Republic Avenue. 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,980 So he's just one block away. 64 00:03:47,980 --> 00:03:51,880 He's very close to where Trevell and his brother live. 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:58,400 As the day goes on July 2, into the evening, his grandmother, her name is Rhonda, Rhonda 66 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,520 begins to worry about him as he has not checked in. 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:09,720 And according to Rhonda, he was always on time and she said he always contacted her. 68 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:16,640 So this is very odd that he is not home or letting her know where she is at this time. 69 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Okay. 70 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,640 So he's responsible. 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,920 We know this about him. 72 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Yes. 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,920 Communicative. 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,920 Okay. 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Yeah. 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,920 He's communicative. 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,920 He doesn't do this. 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,480 This is very strange for him to not be in touch with his grandmother. 79 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,340 So Saturday, July 3, 1999, this is the next day, Trevell's grandmother reports him missing 80 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:41,160 and Rhonda tells police that on June 28th, so this would be four days before he was last 81 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,320 seen before his disappearance, he had been shot in the hand and was wearing a cast on 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,440 his left hand. 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Geez. 84 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:57,920 So on June 28th, 1999, so this was again four days before his disappearance, this is what 85 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,100 his grandmother reports is happening on June 28th. 86 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:07,320 So while he was walking near his home, somebody assaults Trevell and shoots him and Trevell 87 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,680 goes to help nearby to Daylen's house because remember, Daylen lives very close to him and 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,680 his grandma. 89 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,040 So he goes to Daylen's house for help after he is shot. 90 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,660 And Trevell comes back to his grandmother's house with Daylen who offers to drive them 91 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:23,020 both to the hospital. 92 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:28,080 So him and Daylen are now at his grandmother's house, his grandma Rhonda's house, and they 93 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,480 all three of them go to the hospital. 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:37,240 And Rhonda says while getting treated at the hospital, Daylen stayed very close to Trevell 95 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,240 the whole time. 96 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,840 So while he was being treated, while he was being stitched up and get the cast put on, 97 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,720 Daylen did not leave his side. 98 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Trevell was put into a cast and discharged that same day. 99 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,720 He didn't have to stay in the hospital. 100 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:55,080 But later that same night, so this is still June 28th, the same day he was shot, Trevelle 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,800 tells his grandmother Rhonda that there was no assault and that he had shot himself at 102 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Daylen's house. 103 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,960 To make it look like he had been initiated or something? 104 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:17,200 See, I don't know if maybe this is like two young men who have a gun and they're like, 105 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,520 you know, looking at it, kind of playing with it and it accidentally goes off, you know? 106 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,000 Because I'm thinking, and I couldn't find confirmation of this, but I'm thinking if 107 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,720 you're right handed, you know, you have it, the gun in your right hand with the trigger, 108 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,320 you know, on your right hand. 109 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,520 And if you're kind of holding it and looking at it, you know, your left hand's nearby, 110 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,520 like it could go off kind of easily and like jostling it. 111 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:48,040 So I don't know if something like that happened and maybe there was like a worry about honesty 112 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,740 at the hospital or honesty in the beginning. 113 00:06:50,740 --> 00:06:57,520 Or if there was somebody who assaulted him and they didn't want to go further with the 114 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200 police and so this is just his way to lie about it. 115 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,160 You know what I mean? 116 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:08,320 So I don't know exactly the truth behind the gunshot. 117 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,640 It's reported again and again that he says an assault happened, they go to the hospital, 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,080 later that night he tells his grandmother he actually did it at Dalen's house. 119 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:25,160 So we're still in the beginning of July and Trevell is missing, but there's really no 120 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,360 big effort to find this middle schooler. 121 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,480 There's no searches being done. 122 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,480 No like big grid searches like we talked about in Tionda's and Diamond's case. 123 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Nothing, nothing even remotely close to that. 124 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Nothing really happens with his case again, like he's not mentioned until fall of 1999. 125 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,980 So that's the same year that he goes missing, but summer has passed and now we enter into 126 00:07:53,980 --> 00:07:55,640 the fall. 127 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:03,800 And details around these next few pieces of information are very iffy. 128 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 They have been reported a lot of different ways. 129 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:12,600 I think I have a general understanding of what happened, but there are some questions 130 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,120 here that we'll go over. 131 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:21,500 So fall of 1999, the home that Trevell was last seen at goes up in a fire. 132 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:26,040 So this would be Dalen Green's house. 133 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:33,080 So while investigating the fire, police find blood stains, a spent shell casing, Trevell's 134 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:40,160 ID, living room carpet that had been cut out and was missing, like a section of the living 135 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,980 room carpet was missing as opposed to all of the carpet was missing, just a section 136 00:08:43,980 --> 00:08:46,720 of it was. 137 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,560 And additional clothing and handguns are also found, but unclear if those are related to 138 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:55,240 Trevell. 139 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,640 So there are some questions about what comes first, the fire or the search. 140 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:06,680 So I have seen it reported both ways that the police search, find these things. 141 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:07,840 They're searching for Trevell. 142 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,280 So they go to the house he was last seen. 143 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,520 I don't know why this is happening months later and not a day later. 144 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Like he's a middle school boy. 145 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,860 But I've seen it reported both ways of where they search first and then a fire breaks out 146 00:09:20,860 --> 00:09:22,560 at the home. 147 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:27,300 And then this narrative, which seems to be reported more. 148 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:32,200 And I found an interview with police where they say the fire happens first and then the 149 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,600 search happens as a result of the fire. 150 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:43,520 There are also reports that this home that Daylen Green was living in was technically 151 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,360 vacant at the time that Trevell went missing. 152 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,280 But again, this isn't very clear. 153 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,020 And it's only mentioned once or twice. 154 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:56,680 And I don't know if during the summer of 1999, if it was not vacant. 155 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,960 And then in the fall just became vacant. 156 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,200 I'm not sure. 157 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,900 But that is also mentioned about this home. 158 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:09,280 So after finding blood stains, a spent shell casing, Trevell's ID, a section of the living 159 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,560 room carpet missing, and then the additional clothing and handguns, police believe that 160 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,960 a homicide has occurred and Trevell is no longer alive. 161 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,200 So this is fall of 1999. 162 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,880 Police do suspect that Daylen Green did kill Trevell. 163 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,400 But to date, no charges have been brought against him. 164 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:35,760 And at this time, Daylen is 19, but he does have a pretty extensive criminal record. 165 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,360 And most of them are violent crimes at this time. 166 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:46,480 But Trevell, who I mentioned, it's reported that he wanted to join a gang and Daylen was 167 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,080 in that gang, the Blood Street Villains. 168 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,720 But Trevell has no criminal history at all. 169 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,800 So that's 1999. 170 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,800 That's the fall of 1999. 171 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,840 They suspect he's dead, but they still know searches are done to recover his body. 172 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:08,720 To date, not a single search or canvas has been done to find Trevell's remains. 173 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:16,160 And even with this home, this initial search is done, but nothing else was done to the 174 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,000 home that's reported, at least. 175 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,760 There was no ground penetrating sonar walking the grounds to see. 176 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,960 This would have been just a few months later, so you would have been able to just visually 177 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,800 see if the ground had been disturbed or something like that. 178 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:42,920 And so October of 2009, so this is 10 years later, Tywan Sanders, and this is Trevell's 179 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:49,480 brother, who was the last person to see him walking to Daylen's greenhouse on July 2nd. 180 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:56,640 So Tywan, he was shot to death during an argument at 22 years old, and the murderer was caught 181 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,880 and sentenced, and it's not believed that it's related at all to Trevell. 182 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,480 I just feel so bad for Rhonda, because this is her other grandchild that she's been raising 183 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,760 since he was a baby. 184 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Yeah. 185 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,760 Her children. 186 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,760 He's murdered. 187 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Yeah. 188 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:18,040 He was murdered at 22 years old, which is so young. 189 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:29,380 So December of 2014, the local media in Columbus, they run Trevell's story again, and Rhonda, 190 00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:32,600 at this time, she is a lung cancer survivor. 191 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,200 She had lung cancer for six years. 192 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,200 She was diagnosed- 193 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Wow, Rhonda, St. Rhonda. 194 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,640 St. Rhonda. 195 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Truly. 196 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,680 She was diagnosed after Trevell went missing. 197 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:46,280 She went through six years of treatment, and when she- 198 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Wow. 199 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Yeah. 200 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,280 That's a long time. 201 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Yeah. 202 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:56,640 I know part of her lung was also removed, so this woman has been through so much, and 203 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,800 at the very least, she deserves to have her grandson's remains. 204 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,120 Yeah. 205 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,520 So she knows where he is, and that's all she wants in this interview in 2014. 206 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:13,360 She just wants Trevell's remains, so that way, she can be at peace. 207 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:20,720 It's like the bare minimum of, quote, justice in this type of situation is just having base 208 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,720 knowledge and your loved one back with you in some way, even though they can never be 209 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,560 with you in the way that they should be. 210 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,560 Yeah. 211 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:35,280 But one thing that I read and I hear again and again from loved ones of people who are 212 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,560 missing, it's they want them home. 213 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,560 Yeah. 214 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:42,120 Dead, alive, they want to know where they are. 215 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,560 They don't want them lying out in some field. 216 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:49,520 They want a place where they can be remembered. 217 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,800 It's so in us as a species. 218 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,080 It's such an ancient practice to bury your dead or do- 219 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,080 To mourn. 220 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:05,600 To mourn is like, I would say, it's mourning is just as natural as living because it's 221 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,600 a part of life. 222 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,600 Yeah. 223 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:17,200 And mourning your dead for every culture has specific motions to walk through. 224 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Rituals? 225 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Yeah, like rituals. 226 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:27,720 And to deny family those comfort of rituals and the process of that ritual in mourning 227 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,320 is so cruel. 228 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,400 Yeah. 229 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,720 So with Trevill's case, when I first found it, I was like, well, there's going to be 230 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,280 so much news on this. 231 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,760 This is going to be such a juicy case, but really that's all the information I have. 232 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,520 And I, you know, I started to feel a little bit mad about it. 233 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Like, why did this middle school boy, why was there no search done? 234 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Like, why was there no search? 235 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Why has there never been a search done to recover his body? 236 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Like, in, you know, like kind of my anger and researching this, Trevill is a young 237 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 black man. 238 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Yeah, I was going to say statistically, I think we all know why. 239 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Yes. 240 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,760 But I found this foundation, they're called the Black and Missing Foundation. 241 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,760 They're incredible. 242 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:24,300 So their main purpose is just getting media involved in covering the disappearance of 243 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:26,040 black indigenous people of color. 244 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:33,200 Like that is their mission and their goal is to level the playing field in media coverage 245 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,960 when it comes to missing people. 246 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:43,120 So a big reason, and again, I've learned all of this from the Black and Missing Foundation, 247 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:51,320 a big reason that black children aren't a bigger priority within the media when they 248 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,320 go missing. 249 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,160 I think that's for example why this 15 year old boy, because again, he is a boy, he is 250 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,640 a middle schooler, a boy. 251 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,200 You know, black children are often classified as runaways right away, even when there's 252 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,600 no history of that. 253 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,920 And like the adultification of black children. 254 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Yes. 255 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:18,280 And that like, their adolescence isn't the same. 256 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,680 Like that doesn't, yeah. 257 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Right. 258 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,360 So it's going on and on, but sorry. 259 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Please continue. 260 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,240 But if you're classified as a runaway, you automatically do not qualify for an Amber 261 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,160 Alert, which can be like such a big resource in getting children back quickly, especially 262 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,880 in those critical first few hours. 263 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:42,320 But if police believe that they walked away on their own, which police usually believe 264 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,880 that black children do, even when there's no evidence of that and evidence to the contrary 265 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,320 even, they will still be classified as runaways. 266 00:16:53,320 --> 00:17:00,720 And then also missing BIPOC, so that if our listeners don't know, that's black indigenous 267 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,720 people of color. 268 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,760 So BIPOC. 269 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:12,000 So missing BIPOC, children and adults are labeled and associated with criminal involvement, 270 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 gangs and drugs. 271 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:22,320 So this racist idea that BIPOC people have ins and outs with crime on the daily and that 272 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,560 this is just part of their lives is also a reason that there's no media coverage because 273 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,680 it's like, well, this is just part of their day to day life. 274 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,680 Yeah. 275 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,600 Just the systemic racist assumption. 276 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Yes. 277 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,760 So that is why that I mentioned Trevell. 278 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,000 It was rumored that he wanted to join this gang. 279 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,200 But police say that there's this rumor, but in my mind, I'm also like, well, is it just 280 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,360 a 15 year old boy who's hanging out with an older kid in the neighborhood? 281 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:52,360 You know what I mean? 282 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:53,360 Sure. 283 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:59,480 And just because Daylin was associated with this gang, did Trevell just get lumped in 284 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,680 automatically? 285 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,400 And that's why it was like, well, he wanted to join this gang. 286 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,800 So he was probably jumped in and they killed him on accident. 287 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,800 You know? 288 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:12,320 But even with that said, gang members are still people. 289 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Yes. 290 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,200 You know? 291 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,480 I don't care. 292 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,480 Yeah. 293 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:24,800 Gang violence is always a product of other failings in the system. 294 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:33,000 So black children go missing because of other systemic racism issues. 295 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 No childcare. 296 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Poverty. 297 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:43,880 Systemic poverty, generational poverty where families cannot climb out of it. 298 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,400 What was some of the other things? 299 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,880 I just want to quote black and missing as much as possible since they are the... 300 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,880 The resource. 301 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,880 The resource. 302 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,880 Yeah. 303 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,760 And they are doing the work. 304 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:04,920 So around 41% of the population that is missing are by POC people. 305 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,840 So black indigenous people of color. 306 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,600 So that's 41% of the missing population. 307 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:21,880 But when you look at the number, the population, you know, white versus by POC, that it is 308 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:29,180 wildly skewed that black people, indigenous people, people of color will go missing more 309 00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:30,180 than white people. 310 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:35,160 And it will take longer to find them almost always. 311 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,240 So here at cold and missing, you know, we are firmly black lives matter. 312 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,280 We firmly believe that. 313 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,160 Feels strange to even have to say it, but I know we do. 314 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:52,680 And part of the black and missing foundation, part of their goal is to balance the scales 315 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,920 in media coverage. 316 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:02,820 So this week with the disappearance of Eliza Fletcher is actually like a really great example 317 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:10,760 of the missing white woman syndrome, which is what dominates, you know, missing coverage. 318 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Yeah. 319 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:18,920 Like if a person is missing, if she is a white attractive woman, she is going to get national 320 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320 if not international media coverage. 321 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,600 That fact that she went missing. 322 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,500 And we saw this to be true with Eliza Fletcher this week. 323 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:31,960 She was a 34 year old white woman who was abducted during her morning run on September 324 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,540 2nd. 325 00:20:33,540 --> 00:20:37,000 National coverage ensued as I think it should. 326 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,120 And I want to be clear, like black and missing foundation has said, like, do they think that, 327 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:46,320 you know, people like Eliza Fletcher deserve less media coverage? 328 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,320 No. 329 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,600 But every missing person deserves this kind of media coverage. 330 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,840 Every missing person. 331 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,320 More room, like more room for me doesn't mean less room for you. 332 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,320 Yes. 333 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Yeah. 334 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:07,080 We also, you know, as consumers of true crime, you know, like we also have a responsibility 335 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,360 to like kind of seek out stories that are different from what we look at to educate 336 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:13,360 ourselves. 337 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:19,080 You know, the missing white woman syndrome really makes a hunger for stories about victims 338 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,760 that look like Eliza to the exclusion of all others, which is the problem. 339 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Like we can't just focus to the exclusion of others. 340 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,680 We need everybody to get this kind of coverage. 341 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:38,960 National media coverage, especially with missing people, they can go missing so quickly and 342 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,320 move so quickly that, you know, local coverage is great. 343 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Like we saw great local coverage with Tionda and Diamond Bradley when they went missing. 344 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 But nationally, they didn't get that coverage. 345 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:57,240 And those girls could have been in any state at that time when they've been missing for 346 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,240 years. 347 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,520 So national coverage is so important. 348 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:12,760 This missing case to me and the fact that it's in 1999 is no different from like the 349 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,640 black murdered and missing children of Atlanta back in the sixties. 350 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:24,160 Like Travell got as much coverage as those children 30, 40 years later. 351 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,160 Right. 352 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,680 And the thing is, it seems very solvable. 353 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Like it seems like police kind of have everything, right? 354 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Like you seem to know where he was killed at, like this house. 355 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,680 You seem to have a prime suspect. 356 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,400 But like, why can't you, like, why has no search ever been done for his body? 357 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:50,920 It's not like it's a city that doesn't have the money to provide the resources for a search. 358 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,920 Yeah. 359 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,520 This is a big city in Ohio, you know? 360 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,880 But to date, no searches for Travell's body has ever been done. 361 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000 His body has not been recovered. 362 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Rhonda, as best as I can tell, she is still alive. 363 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,400 I couldn't find anything that said differently for her. 364 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,720 But she deserves answers. 365 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,360 This incredible grandmother raising her two grandchildren who are both murdered. 366 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:24,480 That's completely unfair and no family should have to go through that. 367 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,720 But then also her going through six years of cancer treatment. 368 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,680 Like the very least that this woman deserves everything, but at the very least she deserves 369 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:41,560 to know where her grandson is that has been missing since 1999. 370 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,360 So Travell was last seen. 371 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:47,040 He was wearing a cast on his left hand. 372 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:53,440 He has black hair, brown eyes, a scar on his lower lip and a scar on the crown of his head. 373 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,560 He goes by the nickname Nuke. 374 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,120 He is considered to be dead at this time. 375 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:05,720 So if you have any information about what happened to him in 1999, July of 1999, where 376 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:11,320 his remains would be, if you have any information at all pertaining to Travell, please call 377 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:19,360 the Columbus Police Department at 614-645-4545. 378 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:27,260 Sources for today's podcast come from the Columbus Dispatch, WTTV News, The Charlie 379 00:24:27,260 --> 00:24:31,480 Project and The Black and Missing Foundation. 380 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,780 And if you want to know more about The Black and Missing Foundation or if you want to review 381 00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:40,800 some of the cases that they are handling right now, if you want to visit them, I'm going 382 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,360 to link their website in the show notes so that way you can go directly there. 383 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,280 You can donate to the cause. 384 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,960 There's also an incredible documentary on HBO about The Black and Missing Foundation 385 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,760 and the work that they do. 386 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,000 And it's, if you like true crime, you're going to love this. 387 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,400 Very good. 388 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,640 It's four part series and it's very good. 389 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,160 It dives into what they do. 390 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,680 It goes into some of their success stories of bringing missing people home, but then 391 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,600 also highlights people who are still missing. 392 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,440 So it's just, it's a really great watch. 393 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,240 And these women who run the foundation are very incredible and are doing God's work out 394 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,240 here. 395 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,760 So that's it though. 396 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,440 That's all I have on Travell, unfortunately. 397 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Travell hopefully once again, this episode maybe opens some doors, uncovers some things 398 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,440 and this case can maybe get moving again. 399 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,440 Yeah. 400 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,440 Yeah. 401 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Cause Miss Rhonda, she deserves answers to everything. 402 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,960 That's all I can think about. 403 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,560 Travell deserves justice and he deserves to be brought home. 404 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840 But she deserves some peace. 405 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280 She deserves much peace. 406 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,360 So thank y'all for listening. 407 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:59,320 If you like what you hear, please subscribe, leave us a little review. 408 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,760 We love it. 409 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:08,200 Also if you'd like to hop over to our Instagram, Cold and Missing is releasing some podcast 410 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,480 stickers that we are just doing as giveaways and our Instagram will have more information 411 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,480 about that. 412 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,480 Yeah. 413 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,480 So hop on over to our Instagram. 414 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,100 You can find us at Cold and Missing. 415 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:26,040 If you have any cases that you would like us to cover, if there's a cold case or a missing 416 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