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The views and opinions expressed in Cold and

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Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. All

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parties mentioned are considered innocent until

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proven guilty in a court of law. Cold and Missing

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also contains adult themes and languages. Listener

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discretion is advised. I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin

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-Sulkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover

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cold cases and missing person cases. Hello, everyone,

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and welcome back to Cold and Missing. I'm your

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host, Ali, and it will just be me coming to

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you this week. I actually have to travel for

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my day job, so I am doing some traveling, some

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work travel this week, and Eli and I are not

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together this week, and I'm terribly sad and

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I miss him so much, but I just wanted to still

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bring you another episode this week. Right at

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the top, I just wanted to say thank you again

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to everyone who's been able to leave us reviews

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of podcast and somebody on there was like, Cold

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And I was like really blown away by that. Thank

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you to whoever that was. I'm not going to say

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their Reddit username here, but thank you for

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mentioning us. Like, it just meant a lot to me.

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I was like, this is really cool that someone's

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us, telling your friends, family that enjoy True

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Crime about our podcast. I just really appreciate

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it. So thank you for reviewing. Thank you for

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recommending us to people. It really helps get

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these cases out there, which is, you know, the

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whole mission here at Cold and Missing. But with

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that said, I think we should just go ahead and

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get into this week's episode. We are on a cold

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case this week, and this is episode 146. And

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just as a bit of a content warning at the top,

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this case does involve a young person. Today,

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we are talking about the cold case of Levi Frady,

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and this takes place in Forsyth County, Georgia,

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in October of 1997. But first, a little bit about

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Levi. Levi was just 11 years old in October of

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1997. He lived with his mother, Marilyn, and

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his twin sister, Lacey, on Burris Mill Road,

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a quiet rural stretch of Forsyth County, Georgia.

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Levi loved the country and loved living in such

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a rural environment. He loved spending time outdoors.

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Levi's parents were separated, but Levi and his

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sister still saw their dad quite often and thought

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the world of him. Levi loved exploring the woods

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near his home, riding his beloved red and black

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bicycle to visit friends, and enjoyed shooting

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his BB gun in the open fields. He was curious,

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adventurous, and full of life. His grandfather,

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Lamar Frady, once said, That bicycle up there

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was his best friend. That's all he had. Levi

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loved pizza, his grandmother's pancakes, fishing,

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roller coasters, and was teaching himself to

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play his grandmother's piano. He was scared of

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the dark. That Halloween, he wanted to be G .I.

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Joe. Those who knew Levi remembered his smile

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and energy. His children's minister, Joseph Hamley,

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described him as, quote, he could bring a smile

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to your heart very easily. And now a timeline

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of events. Wednesday, October 22nd, 1997. This

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was a pretty notable day. It was the fifth day

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of the World Series. Levi had a regular day at

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school, and after school, at around 4 .15, he

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left home on his bike to go to his friend Roman's

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house. The two of them had planned to do their

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homework together. Levi was expected to be home

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at 6 .30 in time for dinner. According to some

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reports, Levi does call home at one point. His

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mom was in the bathtub, so his twin sister picked

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up. Levi asked his sister to ask their mom if

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it would be okay if he stayed for dinner with

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a different friend. Him and Roman were going

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to go to a third friend's house for dinner. Marilyn

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told Lacey to tell Levi to come home. When 6

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.30 rolled around, Levi's curfew, he didn't walk

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through the front door. At first, his mother

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and sister weren't worried. He had been late

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before. He had pushed that 6 .30 time more than

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once. However, by 7, they started to worry a

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little bit. The minutes kept ticking by. Finally...

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A little bit after 7, Marilyn and Lacey decided

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to go out and get Levi and bring him home for

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dinner. While they're out, Lacey was the first

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to spot Levi's bike. It was lying in a ditch

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on Little Mill Road, about a mile from their

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home. The kickstand was folded up, and the tires

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were slightly low, but that was normal for Levi's

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bike. He liked a softer landing when he went

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off of a ramp. According to Lacey, Her mother

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didn't really have a reaction when they found

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the bike. We do know that Marilyn and Lacey go

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to Roman's house at about 7 .15. Roman tells

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them that Levi had left around 7. Roman tells

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them that he had watched his friend pedal off

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down Crow Road. If Levi had taken Crow Road,

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it would have been the longer route home. However,

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Levi usually took the longer route. There were

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some big barking dogs on the shorter way that

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he liked to avoid. Marilyn decides to try the

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third friend's house, the friend that Levi wanted

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to have dinner with. She thought that maybe he

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went to go have dinner anyway, even though she

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had said no. When Marilyn arrives at the house,

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she knocks on the door and waits, but nobody

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comes and answers the door. She assumes that

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the family must have gone out for dinner and

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taken Levi with them. With that thought, she

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turns around and takes her and Lacey home. Marilyn

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stays up waiting, but eventually she does fall

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asleep. In the early hours of Thursday, October

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23rd, Marilyn wakes up around 2 a .m. She realizes

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that Levi has not come home. She went back out.

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She goes back to that third friend's house and

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knocks on the door. But at that early hour, nobody

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answers. Marilyn thinks that everyone must be

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inside and asleep. She assumes that her son is

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also safe inside the home, sleeping. However,

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the morning didn't bring any signs of Levi. He

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didn't come home, and he didn't show up for school.

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By 8 .30 a .m., Marilyn decides to call the police

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and report him missing. Very quickly, about 100

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officers and volunteers begin searching the area

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around Levi's home and where the bike was found.

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They really focus on where the bike was found

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first, spanning out from that area. For seven

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hours, they combed thick brush and undergrowth,

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but found no clues of where Levi might be. Until

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around 2 .30 that afternoon. At around 2 .30,

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Three hunters in the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management

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Area, which was about 15 miles from where Levi

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was last seen, they make a devastating discovery.

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They find Levi. He is still fully clothed. He's

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laying face up, but a portion of his upper body

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had been submerged in water that had gathered

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in a pit. About 20 feet away from the body was

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a large pool of blood, and a few feet from there

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was Levi's backpack. The hunters head out of

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the woods and flag down a police car to report

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the findings as quickly as they can. Police halt

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the search for Levi and head over to the woods.

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Police at first are not able to determine a cause

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of death, so they decide to wait on an autopsy

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before announcing anything officially. They start

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searching that wooded area for clues. We do know

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that they are able to collect some evidence.

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For instance, we do know that they are able to

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create a cast of tire tracks found in that area.

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The day after finding Levi's body, Friday, October

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24th, his autopsy is conducted. He had been fatally

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shot. But police don't release details at this

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time. They don't say how many times he had been

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shot or where. Preliminary autopsy results showed

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no signs of sexual assault. Ballistic experts

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began working to identify the type of firearm

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that was used, but again, police refused to disclose

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specifics. However, after the autopsy, authorities

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emphasized that Levi's death was not an accident.

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It was a homicide. The rural community was reeling.

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Crimes against children simply did not happen

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in this area. Parents no longer let children

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walk alone from bus stops, and neighbors kept

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a vigilant eye on one another. Marilyn was devastated.

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But this was not the first person she had lost

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in this way. Her father had been shot and killed

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15 years earlier, though police confirmed that

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there was no connection between these two cases.

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On Saturday, October 25th, police get to work

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interviewing families, friends, and neighbors.

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Police consider everyone a suspect but truly

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believe that Levi's killer was known to him because

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statistically, that is the most likely scenario.

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We know that Marilyn is interviewed for hours

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and she's given a polygraph test at some point.

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In addition, police are also wanting to question

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Levi's dad, Milton. However, Milton was laying

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low. He had an outstanding warrant for burglary

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charges from a few years before Levi's murder,

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so he was trying to avoid the police at this

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time. On Sunday, October 26, just three days

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after his body was found, Levi is laid to rest.

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Hundreds show up to pay respects to the little

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boy, so much so that they're spilling out of

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the church and into the lobby and hallways. Police

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are at the funeral, and they're looking for Milton

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to question him. However, Milton skips his son's

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funeral out of fear of the police. On Monday,

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October 27th, this is the day after the funeral,

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and police are still very tight -lipped about

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specifics in this case. It does seem like they

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were able to determine what kind of gun was used,

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but they don't give us any details. No caliber.

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No casings, no bullet type, nothing. We don't

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have any details about what type of gun was used.

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Police continue to interview family, friends,

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and neighbors, but they keep running into dead

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ends. No one is emerging as a suspect at this

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point. On Wednesday, October 29th, just shy of

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a week of Levi's murder, and Milton turns himself

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in to police. Police question him for hours,

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and ultimately, they rule him out as a suspect

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in his son's murder. However, they do arrest

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him on the outstanding warrant and take him to

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jail. We also know on this day that police are

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desperate for a lead or a break in the case.

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They set up roadblocks near where Levi's bike

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was found and stop every car that passes by.

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They ask every driver where they were on the

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night that Levi was murdered and compare tires

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to the tire track treads that they were able

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to get from the crime scene. However, nothing

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comes of this. We do know that police were able

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to get other evidence. They mentioned that all

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of the evidence collected is a priority at the

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state lab. However, we have no details on what

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kind of evidence was collected or if there were

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any results, such as DNA, that was collected

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as a result of the testing. On Halloween that

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year, the mood is somber in Forsyth County. Levi

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was not able to go as the G .I. Joe he wanted

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to, and parents keep an eye on all of the trick

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-or -treaters that evening. Police continued

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the investigation. Police say at about a week

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that they have interviewed over 200 people, but

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they still don't have any leads or suspects in

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the case. Investigators explored the possibility

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that Levi's murder was retaliation against his

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father due to past criminal involvement, but

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there was no strong evidence suggesting this.

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On November 5, 1997, two weeks since the murder,

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police released sketches of two men they hoped

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would come forward so that way they could talk

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to them. One of the men does end up coming forward

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and police question him and he gives some information

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to police and police run it down. Nothing really

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comes out of that. The man is ruled out as, you

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know, any person of interest or suspect in the

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case and he doesn't have anything to add that

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helps Levi's case. The other man, according to

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police, was seen in the Dawson Forest Wildlife

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Management Area around the time of Levi's murder.

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He's described as a white male. He would have

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been around 45 to 55 years old. He was clean

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-shaven and was around 6 foot. Slim build with

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white or gray hair. The man was driving a 1980

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to 1985 medium blue Toyota two -wheel drive pickup

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truck with a white camper shell over the bed

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of the truck. To date, police have never been

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able to find this man to talk to him about Levi's

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case. On November 9th, police confirm that they

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believe that Levi was abducted. They believe

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Levi had been taken off of his bike and driven

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to the woods and then he was killed in the woods.

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The family tell media that they had been told

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that Levi was shot in the head. The next update

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comes on December 20th, 1997, so this would be

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nearly two months after Levi's murder. His family

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and friends are faced with the first holiday

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without him. Investigators do believe that Levi

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got into the car voluntarily. They don't think

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that he was forced off of his bike and into the

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car. Therefore, police think that Levi recognized

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the person driving the car. But beyond that,

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they don't really have a lead. Levi's family

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thinks this is preposterous. They don't think

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that anyone in Levi's life would do this to the

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little boy. On January 9th, 1998, So it's been

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over two months since Levi's murder, and police

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release another sketch of another person that

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they would like to talk to. According to police,

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around 6 .30, a witness saw a man walking along

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Little Mill Road the day that Levi was abducted.

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He was a white male in his late 50s with a scruffy

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gray beard. He was wearing a faded blue baseball

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cap and walked with a stoop. Police believe that

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he could be the key to unlocking the case. They

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think this man must have seen who took Levi,

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since Levi's bike was found on Little Mill Road.

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In June of 1998, so it's been nine months since

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Levi's murder, and Marilyn talks with the media

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for the first time. She says that everything

00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:04.059
that she kind of knows about Levi's case, she

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learned through the questions that police gave

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her during the polygraph test. For example, she

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says the police would ask her, Did you know that

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Levi was shot three times? Because of this, she

00:16:17.690 --> 00:16:21.370
believes that her son was shot three times. She

00:16:21.370 --> 00:16:23.649
tells the media she believes it's twice in the

00:16:23.649 --> 00:16:26.090
chest and once in the head, based off of the

00:16:26.090 --> 00:16:29.450
questions that police had asked her. However,

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really after this, the case appears to really

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go cold for years. The first anniversary in October

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of 1998 comes and goes without any new information.

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In October of 1999, so that's the two -year anniversary,

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the GBI is still working on the case. But they

00:16:50.259 --> 00:16:52.940
say that it is one of the rarest cases they've

00:16:52.940 --> 00:16:57.539
ever had. GBI profiler Jim Hallman says, quote,

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We've never had another case in the country where

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a child was taken and murdered for no apparent

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reason. It's as if somebody rode down the road

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and spirited him away. In April of 2000, a task

00:17:12.099 --> 00:17:14.900
force is created following a petition from over

00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:18.700
2 ,000 local residents asking for closure in

00:17:18.700 --> 00:17:21.839
Levi's case. The task force does seem to get

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together and work on Levi's case. They go over

00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.559
all the information they have, but the GBI isn't

00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.680
involved in the task force. They're invited,

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but they decide not to participate. The task

00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.759
force is made up of Forsyth and Dawson County

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police. However, it doesn't appear that the task

00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.519
force really finds any new information. In 2002,

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it's been five years since Levi's murder, and

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Georgia implemented an Amber Alert system named

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in Levi's honor. It's called Levi's Call in Georgia.

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Levi's Call has gone on to recover many abducted

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children in Georgia, which is amazing. In 2017,

00:18:06.589 --> 00:18:09.950
so that's 20 years since Levi was murdered. And

00:18:09.950 --> 00:18:12.950
his mother reflected, quote, There's still nothing

00:18:12.950 --> 00:18:16.450
after all this time. I've heard so many rumors.

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I know that somebody knows. It has to have been

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more than one person that knows. To me, it's

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just mind -boggling. His twin sister, Lacey,

00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:32.589
now has a son older than Levi ever was. But the

00:18:32.589 --> 00:18:35.920
son brings so much joy to the family. But that

00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.500
is truly all we know about Levi's murder. So

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if you know anything about the murder of Levi

00:18:41.819 --> 00:18:47.339
Frady in October of 1997, please call the Georgia

00:18:47.339 --> 00:18:51.680
Bureau of Investigation tip line at 1 -800 -587

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-8471. So that is the case of Levi Frady. When

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I first read about Levi's case, the first thing

00:19:03.539 --> 00:19:07.980
that I... I really took note of was that he was

00:19:07.980 --> 00:19:11.380
a twin. You know, in so many cases that we cover,

00:19:11.460 --> 00:19:15.299
most of them, you know, our victims or the people

00:19:15.299 --> 00:19:18.079
missing, they do have siblings. You know, that's

00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.259
very common, but very few of them have twins.

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And for Levi to have a twin sister, something

00:19:25.900 --> 00:19:32.119
about that bond and this tragedy happening. Like

00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.180
that really devastated me in a way that like

00:19:34.180 --> 00:19:37.059
truly I'll never understand. I am not a twin.

00:19:37.099 --> 00:19:40.740
I don't know what that bond is like. But seeing

00:19:40.740 --> 00:19:44.079
that bond, you know, in my friends who are twins

00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:50.119
is always something that is very different than

00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:52.180
any other sibling relationship that I've encountered.

00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.599
And, you know, my heart just really, really goes

00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.670
out to. Of course, Levi's family, but especially

00:19:59.670 --> 00:20:05.049
his twin sister and just the heartache that the

00:20:05.049 --> 00:20:10.950
family must feel, you know, and the juxtaposition

00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:14.089
that must happen around, you know, birthdays.

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Like, of course, it's such a sad day because

00:20:16.210 --> 00:20:19.269
it's a year that Levi's not getting, but then

00:20:19.269 --> 00:20:22.069
you want to celebrate for, you know, the year

00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:25.480
that his sister is getting. I can't even imagine

00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.720
what that family has gone through. And truly,

00:20:27.819 --> 00:20:31.680
my heart goes out to them and their family and

00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.960
their healing. You know, I think ultimately in

00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:39.500
this case is we need some answers. There's no

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moving on from murder cases. There's no closing

00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:45.059
a door. You know, that's something I've heard

00:20:45.059 --> 00:20:54.960
again and again from families. minds around it

00:20:54.960 --> 00:21:00.680
help the community this case is mind -boggling

00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.039
I think his mother said that mind -boggling like

00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:08.359
and it is it's why I mean the biggest question

00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:12.359
the overarching question here is just why was

00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:18.880
Levi killed what happened there you know that

00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.519
that quote from the GBI profiler about You know,

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there's no other case where a child has been

00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:27.559
murdered without motive. And, you know, I'm trying

00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:30.220
to think of one to point to differently, but

00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:32.240
it's like I really can't. And, you know, when

00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.740
children are murdered, typically we can kind

00:21:34.740 --> 00:21:36.900
of see a little bit of the motive there. But

00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:41.660
in Levi's case, there's really no motive. You

00:21:41.660 --> 00:21:43.660
know, we know he was not sexually assaulted.

00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.660
It doesn't seem like he was robbed. His backpack

00:21:46.660 --> 00:21:48.740
was there, and I don't think he had anything.

00:21:49.420 --> 00:21:52.279
truly of value on him, you know, maybe besides

00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.279
his bike, which was abandoned. You know, when

00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:58.720
I was researching this, I thought, you know,

00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.200
maybe was he hit by a car and someone panicked,

00:22:02.339 --> 00:22:06.079
but his bike didn't seem to have any damage to

00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:08.519
it. None that's reported. And there are even

00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:10.940
pictures of police, you know, collecting the

00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:13.740
bike as evidence. And, you know, there's no bent

00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:18.240
rims. It's fine. It's a perfectly working bike.

00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:23.019
I don't think that's happening. And then I also

00:22:23.019 --> 00:22:26.920
thought, could this have been an accident where,

00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.539
you know, we know this is a more rural area,

00:22:29.740 --> 00:22:33.920
maybe with somebody firing their gun off, or

00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:35.859
we do know that deer hunting season was about

00:22:35.859 --> 00:22:39.700
to start. So, you know, could it have been, could

00:22:39.700 --> 00:22:42.359
he have been riding past woods and somebody just

00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:46.319
shot and accidentally hit him, but then with

00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:50.119
him being shot three times? That's not an accident.

00:22:50.740 --> 00:22:53.380
That's somebody pulling the trigger three times

00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:59.440
on an 11 -year -old. So why? Why get him in a

00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.259
car? Why drive him, you know, 15, 20 miles away

00:23:03.259 --> 00:23:08.259
to the woods and then shoot him? What? Like,

00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.380
you know, when you just break it down, that's

00:23:11.380 --> 00:23:17.640
simply of just what happened. What? Why? You

00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:20.279
know, there's no world where this 11 -year -old

00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:24.680
boy was, like, a threat to anybody, you know,

00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:29.039
where somebody would fear their life. You know,

00:23:29.099 --> 00:23:32.539
it's just every, like, time I try to wrap my

00:23:32.539 --> 00:23:35.660
mind around why somebody would do this to a little

00:23:35.660 --> 00:23:38.680
boy, I just seem to get, like, further and further

00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.220
away from what happened because it's just so

00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:45.069
absurd. Like, what happens? Clearly, I'm... I'm

00:23:45.069 --> 00:23:47.170
flabbergasted by this. I just really, I cannot

00:23:47.170 --> 00:23:50.690
get over the lack of motive and police truly

00:23:50.690 --> 00:23:54.069
don't seem to have a motive here. It leaves me

00:23:54.069 --> 00:23:57.410
with so many questions, just so many questions

00:23:57.410 --> 00:24:03.130
in his case. I do wonder if in, you know, the

00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:06.490
stacks and stacks of files that have been made

00:24:06.490 --> 00:24:08.009
on this case, which is something that's talked

00:24:08.009 --> 00:24:10.190
about again and again is, you know, how many

00:24:10.190 --> 00:24:14.789
filing cabinets full. All of those interviews,

00:24:15.150 --> 00:24:19.890
did police actually talk to the killer? And,

00:24:19.930 --> 00:24:22.329
you know, they just answered the questions correctly

00:24:22.329 --> 00:24:25.970
to not really raise suspicion and were able to

00:24:25.970 --> 00:24:29.509
just walk out of the police department without

00:24:29.509 --> 00:24:33.990
raising an eyebrow? I just have to think that,

00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:37.750
like, in this small of a community, that if you're

00:24:37.750 --> 00:24:40.630
casting that wide of a net and talking to, you

00:24:40.630 --> 00:24:43.319
know, So many people, I believe it's well over

00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:47.579
200 people they talked to. You would think that

00:24:47.579 --> 00:24:50.900
they would have crossed paths with the killer.

00:24:51.539 --> 00:24:56.720
So I wonder if you just go back and really get

00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.119
into those details and track everything you can.

00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:02.160
Would there be some discrepancies that could

00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.099
maybe give us some clues as to who did this and

00:25:06.099 --> 00:25:10.220
why they would do this? If I could ask one question

00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:13.119
to police, so if I just got one, I think I would

00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.940
just want to know what evidence they collected

00:25:15.940 --> 00:25:18.240
in this case. Like, what were they able to send

00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.059
for testing? And I guess it's a two -parter question,

00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.140
and were they ever able to get DNA? I'd be really

00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:29.160
interested if we had any DNA in this case. You

00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.279
know, 1997, it's just like kind of at that beginning

00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.650
of DNA collection and using it to solve... murders

00:25:37.650 --> 00:25:42.309
and cases. But I just feel like there's opportunity

00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:48.609
for DNA. Specifically, my mind keeps going back

00:25:48.609 --> 00:25:50.910
to the backpack that was found at the crime scene.

00:25:51.109 --> 00:25:54.009
I have questions around that. And some of them

00:25:54.009 --> 00:25:56.349
are very mundane, like, you know, just was everything

00:25:56.349 --> 00:25:58.710
accounted for in the backpack? Like, was all

00:25:58.710 --> 00:26:01.049
of the homework there? You know, did they have

00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:03.960
Roman? take a look at the backpack and see if,

00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:06.299
you know, anything was missing. Um, you know,

00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.880
was there a trophy taken, you know, even something

00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.819
as like that, like was anything missing, even

00:26:11.819 --> 00:26:14.579
if it wasn't something of note, like, you know,

00:26:14.579 --> 00:26:19.519
maybe a book or a homework or a pencil case,

00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.000
you know, just was anything taken that the killer

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.160
might have taken as a trophy, as a personal memento.

00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.839
Um, but yeah, my mind keeps coming back to that

00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.220
backpack and just I'm wondering, like, could

00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:35.539
that be a source of DNA? Like, was it handled

00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:37.900
by the killer? Did they throw it out of, you

00:26:37.900 --> 00:26:43.720
know, their car? Did they grab it, you know,

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.680
to grab Levi? I don't know why the backpack comes

00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.460
so much into, you know, the front of my mind.

00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.779
I think it's because it's one of the few things

00:26:51.779 --> 00:26:54.759
we actually have in this case. I think that's

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.960
why I kind of cling to it. And then another thing

00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.730
I would just want to know is, What kind of gun

00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:05.009
was used? And I'm really surprised they didn't

00:27:05.009 --> 00:27:08.930
at least say the caliber at the time. You know,

00:27:08.950 --> 00:27:11.869
in rural communities, people tend to have guns

00:27:11.869 --> 00:27:14.190
and they tend to have more than one gun. But,

00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:17.950
you know, listing out what kind of, you know,

00:27:17.950 --> 00:27:22.250
millimeter maybe was used, that could be information

00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:24.569
that someone might recognize. You know, if it's

00:27:24.569 --> 00:27:28.410
a more unique thing, like a .44 caliber, not

00:27:28.410 --> 00:27:30.799
a... Not every person has those, so maybe that

00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.660
limits it a little bit. Yeah, I just, I really

00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:37.480
wonder just what evidence we have, like what

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.500
are the solid facts we have in this case, just

00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:41.440
because there's so many questions out there.

00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.160
For me, personally, I have so many questions

00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:50.119
in this case. But I do hope that in all the evidence

00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.259
that was collected, that there was something

00:27:54.259 --> 00:27:56.960
that maybe, if not tested then, we can test now.

00:27:57.630 --> 00:28:00.789
This case does feel solvable. You know, it wasn't

00:28:00.789 --> 00:28:05.549
that long ago. It was in 1997. And it was such

00:28:05.549 --> 00:28:09.029
a unique crime to this area that I think a lot

00:28:09.029 --> 00:28:11.029
of people really remember it. And I think they

00:28:11.029 --> 00:28:14.029
remember details about their life at that time

00:28:14.029 --> 00:28:17.890
and their community at that time. So I really

00:28:17.890 --> 00:28:22.490
hope that we are able to get some answers in

00:28:22.490 --> 00:28:26.259
this case for... first and foremost for Levi's

00:28:26.259 --> 00:28:29.400
family, but also for this community that got

00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:34.400
rocked by a child's murder, a very senseless,

00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.160
all child murders are senseless. There's no reason

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.339
a child's life should ever be taken. But like

00:28:40.339 --> 00:28:43.619
in Levi's case, it's like, this is completely

00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:47.700
senseless. We have no sense. You know, we have

00:28:47.700 --> 00:28:50.480
nothing to point to, to even be like, that is

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.819
why they did. Like, it's just, it's mind boggling.

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:57.349
To quote his mom again, mind -boggling. But yeah,

00:28:57.529 --> 00:29:00.029
I would really love to see justice in this case,

00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:03.549
and I would just love to have someone answer

00:29:03.549 --> 00:29:06.049
for what they did and to be held accountable.

00:29:06.769 --> 00:29:09.710
So again, if you know anything about the murder

00:29:09.710 --> 00:29:15.869
of Levi Frady in October of 1997, please call

00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:19.009
the Georgia Bureau of Investigation tip line

00:29:19.009 --> 00:29:26.710
at 1 -800 -587 - 8471. We will have pictures

00:29:26.710 --> 00:29:30.130
of Levi up on our Instagram at coldandmissing.

00:29:30.130 --> 00:29:33.869
And we'll also have those suspect, not suspect,

00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:36.029
but the witness sketches. I can't believe I didn't

00:29:36.029 --> 00:29:38.410
talk about this in the wrap -up portion. But

00:29:38.410 --> 00:29:41.250
yeah, the witness sketches. We will have that

00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:44.750
on our Instagram too. These two men who were

00:29:44.750 --> 00:29:49.569
seen in... very important area so near where

00:29:49.569 --> 00:29:53.289
the bike was abandoned and then where near where

00:29:53.289 --> 00:29:56.089
Levi's body was found these two men were seen

00:29:56.089 --> 00:30:00.210
we have some really great sketches of what these

00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:04.230
men would have looked like in 1997 so somebody

00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:06.690
should be able to recognize them one man recognized

00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:08.950
himself from the sketches and like came forward

00:30:08.950 --> 00:30:11.509
with whatever information he had and it wasn't

00:30:11.509 --> 00:30:15.059
a lot but Somebody should be able to recognize

00:30:15.059 --> 00:30:18.640
these people, family, friends, colleagues, acquaintances.

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.599
Somebody knows them. So we will have that up

00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.559
on our Instagram too. And hopefully somebody

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.000
recognized them and is able to call police and

00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.279
they're able to connect. And we're able to get

00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:35.039
some information in this case and get answers

00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.859
for Levi. But we will have pictures of Levi,

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.670
those witness sketches. was also able to find

00:30:43.670 --> 00:30:45.549
a picture of his bike. So we'll put that up as

00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:48.849
well at our Instagram, at coldandmissing. If

00:30:48.849 --> 00:30:50.569
you're not following us, please do give us a

00:30:50.569 --> 00:30:53.569
follow. We always update if we ever have to miss

00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:55.589
a week. We always put it on our Instagram. So

00:30:55.589 --> 00:30:57.630
follow us there for updates in the case. And

00:30:57.630 --> 00:31:01.630
then we are always posting just other true crime

00:31:01.630 --> 00:31:03.390
things that are happening. So active missing

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person cases or cold cases that are getting solved,

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all that stuff. So it's a great resource if you

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like a little true crime. Also, as I mentioned

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at the top, rating and reviewing us does help

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others find this podcast. It lets people try

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out our podcast. A lot of people won't try a

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podcast that doesn't have a lot of ratings or

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really negative ones. So thank you for leaving

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us five stars, positive reviews, ratings. It

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really does mean so much and it just gets these

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cases out there. And so many of you have mentioned

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in your reviews that these are lesser known cases.

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even more reason for them to get out there. So

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please, if you haven't, if you could rate and

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review us five stars, it really goes a tremendously

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long way in others finding this podcast. And

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that means others finding these cases. So please

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share, share, share, share and rate and review.

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Thank you. Thank you so much. And if you or someone

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you love is hard of hearing, we have official

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transcripts on our website, www .coldandmissing

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.com. But that is all I have for you this week.

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Thank you so much for listening to Cold and Missing.

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I'm your host, Ali. Have a good week and stay

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safe, y 'all.
