WEBVTT 00:00:08.269 --> 00:00:10.789 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and 00:00:10.789 --> 00:00:13.710 Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. All 00:00:13.710 --> 00:00:16.129 parties mentioned are considered innocent until 00:00:16.129 --> 00:00:18.929 proven guilty in a court of law. Cold and Missing 00:00:18.929 --> 00:00:22.390 also contains adult themes and languages. Listener 00:00:22.390 --> 00:00:26.230 discretion is advised. I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin 00:00:26.230 --> 00:00:29.030 -Solkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Solkowski. 00:00:29.250 --> 00:00:31.269 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover 00:00:31.269 --> 00:00:34.990 cold cases and missing person cases. Hello, everyone, 00:00:34.990 --> 00:00:37.090 and welcome back to Cold and Missing. I'm your 00:00:37.090 --> 00:00:40.380 host, Allie. And I'm your co -host, Eli. Yes, 00:00:40.380 --> 00:00:44.299 Eli is back this week. We are back as a duo and 00:00:44.299 --> 00:00:48.100 ready to bring you a regularly scheduled podcast. 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:50.640 No taking a week off this week. We are here. 00:00:51.060 --> 00:00:54.509 That's right. We know. Life lobs difficulties 00:00:54.509 --> 00:00:57.969 at us every once in a while, so we really appreciate 00:00:57.969 --> 00:01:01.009 those of you who continue to stick with us and 00:01:01.009 --> 00:01:02.950 come back every week to listen. If you're new 00:01:02.950 --> 00:01:06.269 here, we have a huge backlog of episodes for 00:01:06.269 --> 00:01:08.469 you to go and listen to, so please catch up on 00:01:08.469 --> 00:01:12.489 those. But for this week, we are on a cold case. 00:01:13.109 --> 00:01:17.109 Yes, we are on episode 137, and we are covering 00:01:17.109 --> 00:01:21.390 a cold case, the cold case of Shana Jaros. All 00:01:21.390 --> 00:01:24.969 right, let's get into it. Today, we are talking 00:01:24.969 --> 00:01:27.810 about the cold case of Shana Jaros, and this 00:01:27.810 --> 00:01:31.790 takes place in November of 1995 in Nokomis, Illinois. 00:01:32.430 --> 00:01:36.909 But first, a little bit about Shana. Shana Jaros 00:01:36.909 --> 00:01:41.230 is just 18 years old in 1995. That spring, she 00:01:41.230 --> 00:01:43.569 had graduated from high school, and she was stepping 00:01:43.569 --> 00:01:46.689 into adulthood and independence. She had just 00:01:46.689 --> 00:01:49.939 moved into her first apartment. a small building 00:01:49.939 --> 00:01:52.819 with six units on South Maple Street in Nokomis, 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.579 Illinois. She shared the space with a roommate, 00:01:55.819 --> 00:01:59.719 Tanya, who was close to her in age. Nokomis, 00:01:59.780 --> 00:02:02.599 Illinois is a quiet, close -knit community in 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.060 central Illinois. The population is around 2 00:02:06.060 --> 00:02:11.240 ,700 people. Shana worked at Golden Manor Nursing 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:14.539 Home, a job she had held since she was 16 years 00:02:14.539 --> 00:02:18.379 old. She was a certified nurse's aide. and she 00:02:18.379 --> 00:02:20.520 was known for her ability to connect with people, 00:02:20.740 --> 00:02:25.340 especially the elderly. She had a goal of becoming 00:02:25.340 --> 00:02:27.400 a nurse one day, and she wanted to either work 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.900 with children or the elderly because she enjoyed 00:02:29.900 --> 00:02:33.879 both of them so much. Friends described Shana 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.759 as someone who could get along with anybody, 00:02:36.099 --> 00:02:40.439 kind -hearted, loving. She loved the Miami Dolphins, 00:02:40.580 --> 00:02:44.240 music, and spending time with her family. Shana 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.419 was the oldest of four siblings. She was also 00:02:47.419 --> 00:02:49.860 six foot tall by the time she had graduated high 00:02:49.860 --> 00:02:52.919 school. Her height made her an easy target for 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.819 bullying. But despite this, Shana remained kind 00:02:56.819 --> 00:03:00.740 -hearted. After graduation, she began hanging 00:03:00.740 --> 00:03:03.099 out with a new crowd of friends, people who readily 00:03:03.099 --> 00:03:06.319 accepted her. Her younger sister was a little 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.599 weary of them. She thought they might be a bad 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:12.180 influence. Shana had a new boyfriend, according 00:03:12.180 --> 00:03:15.639 to reports. And she had just moved into her new 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:20.099 apartment. She was starting her life. And now, 00:03:20.180 --> 00:03:25.219 a timeline of events. Tuesday, October 31st, 00:03:25.219 --> 00:03:30.139 1995. On Halloween, Shana spent the evening trick 00:03:30.139 --> 00:03:32.740 -or -treating with her friend Kim and Kim's daughter. 00:03:33.379 --> 00:03:35.960 Kim lived across the street and also worked with 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.460 Shana at the nursing home. They were really close. 00:03:39.629 --> 00:03:41.949 Shana's younger brother came to visit and join 00:03:41.949 --> 00:03:45.090 in on the trick -or -treating. When their father, 00:03:45.150 --> 00:03:47.669 Dwayne, picked him up later that night, he remembered 00:03:47.669 --> 00:03:50.110 Shana wearing a blue housecoat as she walked 00:03:50.110 --> 00:03:53.969 her brother out. That evening on Halloween, Shana 00:03:53.969 --> 00:03:57.050 hosted a small housewarming and Halloween party. 00:03:57.969 --> 00:04:00.629 It wasn't a big gathering, just four people. 00:04:01.330 --> 00:04:05.050 Shana, her roommate, Tanya Gilmore, Tanya's boyfriend, 00:04:05.289 --> 00:04:08.009 Jason Carver, and the next -door neighbor, Billy 00:04:08.009 --> 00:04:11.330 Malloy. They spent the night playing cards, laughing, 00:04:11.509 --> 00:04:14.389 and celebrating until around midnight, according 00:04:14.389 --> 00:04:18.149 to her friends. The next day, Wednesday, November 00:04:18.149 --> 00:04:23.730 1st, 1995, at around 6 .50 a .m., Shana's landlord 00:04:23.730 --> 00:04:26.610 was leaving her apartment and she noticed that 00:04:26.610 --> 00:04:30.149 Shana's apartment door was left ajar. She thought 00:04:30.149 --> 00:04:32.730 it was weird, so she called out, but nobody answered. 00:04:33.209 --> 00:04:36.170 Her landlord decided to go inside and make sure 00:04:36.170 --> 00:04:39.360 everything was okay. When she entered the apartment, 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.420 she made the horrific discovery. She found Shana 00:04:43.420 --> 00:04:47.379 dead. She immediately backed up and called police. 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.720 Authorities arrived quickly. It was the first 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.620 murder the local department had seen in 25 years. 00:04:55.519 --> 00:05:00.060 Police quickly start processing the scene. Lots 00:05:00.060 --> 00:05:02.720 of evidence is taken from the house, and finally, 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.699 Shana's body is removed around 1 in the afternoon 00:05:05.699 --> 00:05:09.060 and sent for an autopsy. Investigators noted 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:11.420 that there was no sign of forced entry at the 00:05:11.420 --> 00:05:13.819 apartment, leading them to believe that Shana 00:05:13.819 --> 00:05:16.860 likely knew her killer. Police also interviewed 00:05:16.860 --> 00:05:20.180 neighbors at this time. One neighbor told police 00:05:20.180 --> 00:05:22.899 that they heard a scuffle coming from Shana's 00:05:22.899 --> 00:05:26.699 apartment around 4 .46 a .m., but they didn't 00:05:26.699 --> 00:05:28.939 see anyone leaving the apartment after this. 00:05:29.899 --> 00:05:33.339 By evening, Sheriff Jim Vassie told the press 00:05:33.339 --> 00:05:35.660 that there were no suspects at this time and 00:05:35.660 --> 00:05:37.980 they were still busy interviewing those who were 00:05:37.980 --> 00:05:42.220 close to Shana. On Thursday, November 2, 1995, 00:05:42.899 --> 00:05:46.959 Shana's autopsy is done. It confirms that Shana 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.000 had been stabbed multiple times, but police don't 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.180 release any more details about that at this time. 00:05:52.620 --> 00:05:55.720 They do say, however, that Shana died from massive 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.879 blood loss. They also say that she was primarily 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:03.139 stabbed in her upper chest and neck area. It 00:06:03.139 --> 00:06:04.980 is believed that she died in the early morning 00:06:04.980 --> 00:06:07.879 hours of November 1st, but they aren't specific 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.939 about the time. Based off of family comments, 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.439 I do believe that the time is somewhere between 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:18.420 4, 5 in the morning. We know that toxicology 00:06:18.420 --> 00:06:20.740 reports are done and it takes weeks for them 00:06:20.740 --> 00:06:23.439 to come back, but police never release the results 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.509 of those toxicology reports. Shana's family and 00:06:27.509 --> 00:06:30.569 the small town of Nokomis were shattered by this 00:06:30.569 --> 00:06:33.649 murder. Like I mentioned earlier, Shana's was 00:06:33.649 --> 00:06:36.610 the first murder in 25 years for this community, 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:40.629 so everyone was shocked by it. Her cousin later 00:06:40.629 --> 00:06:57.970 said, quote, On Saturday, November 4th, 1995, 00:06:58.389 --> 00:07:01.930 only three days after her murder, Shana's late 00:07:01.930 --> 00:07:04.050 to rest just blocks away from her apartment. 00:07:05.329 --> 00:07:08.290 Police still haven't identified a suspect or 00:07:08.290 --> 00:07:12.009 located the murder weapon. But a week after the 00:07:12.009 --> 00:07:14.750 murder, police say that they don't have any leads. 00:07:15.769 --> 00:07:20.509 As winter sets in, Shana's case gets cold. In 00:07:20.509 --> 00:07:23.730 January of 1996, two months after the murder, 00:07:24.170 --> 00:07:27.069 An inquest into Shana's death was held in Hillsboro. 00:07:27.290 --> 00:07:29.970 It confirmed what the autopsy had already told 00:07:29.970 --> 00:07:33.509 us, that she died from massive blood loss due 00:07:33.509 --> 00:07:36.089 to multiple stab wounds in her neck and chest 00:07:36.089 --> 00:07:41.230 area. In June of 1996, so this is seven months 00:07:41.230 --> 00:07:45.110 after the murder, there were no arrests and little 00:07:45.110 --> 00:07:48.410 progress that was made public. Shana's family 00:07:48.410 --> 00:07:51.449 held a candlelight vigil to honor her and to 00:07:51.449 --> 00:07:53.750 bring awareness to her case and other victims 00:07:53.750 --> 00:07:57.490 of violent crime. Frustration grew in the community 00:07:57.490 --> 00:08:01.490 as the case appeared to stall. In October of 00:08:01.490 --> 00:08:05.209 1996, as we approach the one -year anniversary 00:08:05.209 --> 00:08:08.629 of Shana's murder, yellow ribbons still appeared 00:08:08.629 --> 00:08:11.399 all throughout Nokomis. They had been hung up 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.680 shortly after she was murdered to bring awareness 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:17.160 to her case, and many businesses, houses, had 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.259 just left them up. Shana's father, Duane, said, 00:08:20.339 --> 00:08:30.120 Police say that they are still actively working 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.299 on the case a year later. They say that they 00:08:33.299 --> 00:08:35.879 are waiting on evidence and DNA results from 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.090 the FBI. Results that they had been waiting for, 00:08:39.149 --> 00:08:43.090 for at least six months, they say. Master Sergeant 00:08:43.090 --> 00:08:46.210 Fred Danini told reporters that investigators 00:08:46.210 --> 00:08:49.269 had potential suspects, but were waiting for 00:08:49.269 --> 00:08:53.490 forensic results to narrow their focus. They 00:08:53.490 --> 00:08:56.029 don't name any of the suspects publicly at this 00:08:56.029 --> 00:09:00.049 point. As the months continue to tick by, police 00:09:00.049 --> 00:09:03.730 never do any update about what those FBI results... 00:09:04.090 --> 00:09:07.509 or if they were able to get DNA. They never say 00:09:07.509 --> 00:09:11.929 what those results were. In November of 1998, 00:09:12.669 --> 00:09:15.669 three years after the murder, there are still 00:09:15.669 --> 00:09:18.230 no arrests and still no suspects in the case. 00:09:19.070 --> 00:09:22.590 A $3 ,000 reward was offered for information. 00:09:23.690 --> 00:09:27.370 It is revealed at this time that Shana had been 00:09:27.370 --> 00:09:31.379 stabbed 54 times during the attack. a detail 00:09:31.379 --> 00:09:33.919 that underscored the brutality of the crime. 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.659 By this point, three years later, police had 00:09:38.659 --> 00:09:41.539 conducted over 300 interviews and collected nearly 00:09:41.539 --> 00:09:45.720 200 pieces of evidence. They still believed that 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.059 Shana knew her killer. However, years start to 00:09:50.059 --> 00:09:53.059 pass. Shana's case does come up in the media 00:09:53.059 --> 00:09:55.639 around the anniversary, and her family does an 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.840 incredible job of keeping her face alive. As 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.120 social media starts to become a thing, they get 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.779 on there and create memorial pages for her to 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:06.000 keep her case active in the community and to 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:10.360 update people on what's happening. In 2024, 29 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.620 years after the murder, Shana's case remains 00:10:13.620 --> 00:10:17.200 unsolved. Many of her friends from that time, 00:10:17.220 --> 00:10:19.100 specifically those that she was hanging out with 00:10:19.100 --> 00:10:22.379 the summer before she was murdered, have died. 00:10:24.230 --> 00:10:26.870 Authorities say the investigation is still active, 00:10:27.029 --> 00:10:29.470 but they have not released any new information 00:10:29.470 --> 00:10:32.409 and they refuse to answer any questions citing 00:10:32.409 --> 00:10:36.090 the ongoing investigation. But that is really 00:10:36.090 --> 00:10:38.950 all we know about the murder of Shana Jaros. 00:10:39.929 --> 00:10:42.610 So if you know anything about the murder of Shana 00:10:42.610 --> 00:10:45.450 Jaros, you are urged to contact the Illinois 00:10:45.450 --> 00:10:50.330 State Police Zone 6 Investigations at 618 -346 00:10:50.330 --> 00:11:05.240 - So that is the cold case of Shana Jaros. I'm 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.779 not sure if you felt this way while you were 00:11:07.779 --> 00:11:11.500 doing your investigative research into Shana's 00:11:11.500 --> 00:11:17.139 case, but I definitely felt like her story was 00:11:17.139 --> 00:11:20.980 just a bit familiar, more in the sense of, She 00:11:20.980 --> 00:11:24.519 left home at 18 and was making her way in her 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.659 new young adult life. I know you and I did the 00:11:27.659 --> 00:11:32.519 same. And there were a lot of nights that I experienced 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:36.519 in my youth that was very similar to this one. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:41.600 And I mean, you know, playing cards and hanging 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.899 out, living in your new and or first apartment, 00:11:45.299 --> 00:11:48.019 hanging with your friends. It sounded very familiar 00:11:48.019 --> 00:11:52.149 to me. Totally. I remember being, you know, 18, 00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:55.889 19, 20 and just needing to like be with my friends 00:11:55.889 --> 00:11:58.710 every weekend and specifically like playing cards. 00:11:58.789 --> 00:12:01.450 That is something that like I feel like a lot 00:12:01.450 --> 00:12:03.970 of people kind of get into like at 18, 19 years 00:12:03.970 --> 00:12:05.629 old, like you just want to play cards with your 00:12:05.629 --> 00:12:09.110 friends. So I definitely have memories of doing 00:12:09.110 --> 00:12:13.740 that. Yeah, every time my friends moved into 00:12:13.740 --> 00:12:16.399 a new place, like a new apartment, we would always 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.740 have some kind of like housewarming celebration. 00:12:19.580 --> 00:12:21.659 And they could range from really big parties 00:12:21.659 --> 00:12:24.059 to, you know, just kind of an intimate gathering 00:12:24.059 --> 00:12:28.440 like Shana was having for her housewarming slash 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.120 Halloween party. But yeah, the whole scene felt 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:34.799 very familiar to me and very normal. I will say 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:41.169 too, around the same age as Shana, Along with 00:12:41.169 --> 00:12:44.350 my roommates experienced a robbery. And I think 00:12:44.350 --> 00:12:47.250 I've mentioned that on this podcast before. But 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:51.110 law enforcement at the time did say to us, you 00:12:51.110 --> 00:12:53.889 know, whoever did this definitely had eyes on 00:12:53.889 --> 00:12:57.509 your apartment. And when you and your roommates 00:12:57.509 --> 00:13:01.490 were moving in and out of it, I know that they 00:13:01.490 --> 00:13:03.629 said that the person who committed this crime 00:13:03.629 --> 00:13:06.929 probably knew Shana. But I do think that there's 00:13:06.929 --> 00:13:10.330 a possibility here that it. was an outsider. 00:13:10.610 --> 00:13:12.710 I think it's worth mentioning that that's an 00:13:12.710 --> 00:13:15.789 absolute possibility. Yeah, I mean, just to get 00:13:15.789 --> 00:13:19.110 right into it. Yeah, we police have never named 00:13:19.110 --> 00:13:21.809 a suspect, have never even hinted at who a suspect 00:13:21.809 --> 00:13:24.929 might be. But, you know, they said there was 00:13:24.929 --> 00:13:27.570 no forced entry. So they believed or theorized 00:13:27.570 --> 00:13:31.100 that Shana knew her killer. We, of course, have 00:13:31.100 --> 00:13:33.899 talked before on the podcast that there's a lot 00:13:33.899 --> 00:13:36.179 of ways to get somebody to kind of open a door, 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:38.840 especially maybe if you live in a small, trusting 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.679 community. Maybe, you know, you could get someone 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.799 to open the door and there's not a obvious sign 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:50.399 of force in that kind of trickery. But, yeah, 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.490 I think it's possible that... Sheena did know 00:13:54.490 --> 00:13:57.090 her killer. And I think with all the information 00:13:57.090 --> 00:13:59.710 we have, which is very little, I think it's also 00:13:59.710 --> 00:14:03.070 a possibility that someone, you know, like you 00:14:03.070 --> 00:14:05.769 said, just kind of walked in or, you know, was 00:14:05.769 --> 00:14:09.190 a random attacker. You know, Sheena had just 00:14:09.190 --> 00:14:11.950 moved into this apartment where the locks changed 00:14:11.950 --> 00:14:14.789 from the previous tenant or previous multiple 00:14:14.789 --> 00:14:17.769 tenants. You know, when was the locks last changed? 00:14:17.830 --> 00:14:20.590 Who still had keys to that apartment that maybe 00:14:20.590 --> 00:14:23.169 shouldn't have had them? Are there any maintenance 00:14:23.169 --> 00:14:26.049 workers or just people servicing the apartment 00:14:26.049 --> 00:14:29.350 building that maybe would have keys to be able 00:14:29.350 --> 00:14:32.789 to let themselves in? There's a lot of possibilities 00:14:32.789 --> 00:14:36.669 here, and I would be curious what has been ruled 00:14:36.669 --> 00:14:40.950 out officially. Just diving deeper into the timeline, 00:14:41.129 --> 00:14:44.490 I think the circumstances around her death and 00:14:44.490 --> 00:14:50.159 the details within it. do lend itself to the 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:54.940 perpetrator being someone that she knew. I think 00:14:54.940 --> 00:14:58.820 to put it as delicately as possible, it was shocking 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:04.279 to hear that she was stabbed 54 times. It's very, 00:15:04.379 --> 00:15:07.500 you're very decisive in those moments. That's 00:15:07.500 --> 00:15:13.120 a long time to just that movement over and over 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:17.500 again. To me, and... You know, having looked 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:20.139 at true crime for a very long time along with 00:15:20.139 --> 00:15:26.980 you, it's a crime of passion to me. It very much 00:15:26.980 --> 00:15:31.059 says to me that this was personal. Yeah, I think 00:15:31.059 --> 00:15:36.399 the brutality of it and, you know, choosing to 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.519 stab someone that many times does speak to, like, 00:15:39.580 --> 00:15:42.840 a level of anger that feels personal. That someone 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:45.220 would have to be, like, really, really angry 00:15:45.220 --> 00:15:50.159 to do that to another person. So, yeah, I do 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.759 think, you know, statistically, it is most likely 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.120 somebody that she knew, all things considered. 00:15:59.179 --> 00:16:02.759 But, yeah, just, you know, things we know from 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:05.820 true crime, it's, you know, stabbing is a crime 00:16:05.820 --> 00:16:09.139 of passion, just like you said. So I do think 00:16:09.139 --> 00:16:12.220 that lends itself to... Shayna knowing who killed 00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:17.379 her. I do think that the 54 times also lends 00:16:17.379 --> 00:16:21.980 itself to a maybe frenzied state. And for me, 00:16:22.019 --> 00:16:27.120 that's where the toxicology report I'm very interested 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:35.980 in. Again, the 54 times, if not in an extreme 00:16:35.980 --> 00:16:40.220 headspace of... anger or rage or just in a frenzied 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:44.259 state, it could be a mind -altered state. I'm 00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:46.399 curious to know if whoever was committing this 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.840 crime was using substances that night. And I 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:54.480 think knowing the toxicology report on her end 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:58.960 could lead us to questioning more people. I don't 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.360 say us as in we are doing this questioning, but 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:05.839 in the grand scheme of things, I think the toxicology 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:11.460 report Could reveal more details. Yeah, and I 00:17:11.460 --> 00:17:13.460 assume police have it. They have those results. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.500 They never release them, but I know it's a typical 00:17:17.500 --> 00:17:21.299 part of autopsies. So, yeah, just like you said, 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.480 it would just lead to, you know, just a little 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:25.920 bit more about what happened that night and just 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:30.440 give a basis to confirm what the friends were 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.380 saying there. Did they say they were doing X, 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.559 Y, and Z? Well, X, Y, and Z showed up here, so 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.980 that supports that. Or did they say, no, we weren't 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:40.160 doing anything, but X, Y, and Z shows up on the 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:42.319 report? You know what I mean? Like, it just is 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.380 a fact and, like, a piece of information that 00:17:47.380 --> 00:17:50.119 just helps us solidify, like, facts in the night, 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:52.440 which, you know, in true crime, to me, it's like 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:54.440 all facts are friendly, so we should gather as 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:58.710 much information that we can. Exactly. And I 00:17:58.710 --> 00:18:01.609 think another fact of this case that really stuck 00:18:01.609 --> 00:18:06.109 out to me is that she bled out, which means she 00:18:06.109 --> 00:18:10.970 was left alone and or whoever committed this 00:18:10.970 --> 00:18:16.269 watched that happen, which is very, very frightening 00:18:16.269 --> 00:18:20.650 to me that a person or people were in the room 00:18:20.650 --> 00:18:24.789 while she was dying. And at the end of her life, 00:18:24.849 --> 00:18:29.660 it could have been prevented. That's a big detail 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:33.759 to me is that either, you know, she was stabbed 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.200 in this frenzied state and the person left or 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:41.519 they stayed. Either way, it's a horrifying reveal. 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.460 Yeah, like you said, it's one of the few facts 00:18:45.460 --> 00:18:49.119 we do have that she died from blood loss. And 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:53.900 yeah, it just seems absolutely torturous for 00:18:53.900 --> 00:18:57.950 that to be the cause of death. It really leaves 00:18:57.950 --> 00:19:00.390 me speechless and truly kind of works me up when 00:19:00.390 --> 00:19:02.849 I think about like just the brutality and how 00:19:02.849 --> 00:19:06.089 like murder is always unnecessary. But it's like 00:19:06.089 --> 00:19:08.569 this was completely unnecessary. Like it did 00:19:08.569 --> 00:19:12.769 not need to be so brute. Like why? And, you know, 00:19:12.769 --> 00:19:14.730 just to echo like what her father says, it's 00:19:14.730 --> 00:19:18.089 like he wants to know who killed his daughter 00:19:18.089 --> 00:19:22.400 and why. And, you know, that why. Like really 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.059 gets me in this because it's like, who do you 00:19:25.059 --> 00:19:27.220 think you are to do this to another human and 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:31.519 then leave? Like, yeah, I just I really get worked 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:36.720 up about this because it just feels so brutal. 00:19:38.859 --> 00:19:42.200 Yeah, the brutality of this also makes me curious 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:46.980 of what the weapon was. I'm not sure if you even 00:19:46.980 --> 00:19:49.640 mentioned that or if I if that was something 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.579 that I missed, but. I don't think it's here in 00:19:52.579 --> 00:19:57.619 this case. And I think that really changes the 00:19:57.619 --> 00:20:00.920 motivation around everything. Knowing what that 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:03.660 weapon was that caused this damage, that ended 00:20:03.660 --> 00:20:09.640 a life, I think could really change the narrative 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:15.769 of who committed this crime. Yeah, we don't know 00:20:15.769 --> 00:20:18.650 the murder weapon. Police say that they have 00:20:18.650 --> 00:20:21.190 not been able to find it. They've never updated 00:20:21.190 --> 00:20:23.789 if they have found it. But last we knew, they 00:20:23.789 --> 00:20:27.049 were not able to locate it. And no details about, 00:20:27.150 --> 00:20:31.690 you know, what kind of, you know, knife or other 00:20:31.690 --> 00:20:34.509 instrument was used to stab her. And yeah, I 00:20:34.509 --> 00:20:37.130 think that's... That's just another piece of 00:20:37.130 --> 00:20:39.650 evidence. You know, was it a knife from the kitchen? 00:20:39.769 --> 00:20:42.009 You know, something that was there, which would 00:20:42.009 --> 00:20:45.670 lead you to think that, you know, somebody didn't 00:20:45.670 --> 00:20:47.930 come with that. So maybe this was more spur of 00:20:47.930 --> 00:20:51.430 the moment happening. But if it is a knife that 00:20:51.430 --> 00:20:53.410 Shana didn't have and wouldn't have been at her 00:20:53.410 --> 00:20:55.950 apartment, then somebody came with that knife, 00:20:56.009 --> 00:20:58.269 which kind of suggests more pre -planning and 00:20:58.269 --> 00:21:01.700 watching. you know, just almost a different intent. 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.059 So yeah, I agree that having that murder weapon, 00:21:04.140 --> 00:21:06.759 I think, would provide a lot of evidence and 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.420 just kind of knowing just, again, a little bit 00:21:09.420 --> 00:21:12.220 more about what happened that night. And again, 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:14.500 just on that, like, if I could sit down and, 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:17.519 like, know anything and just read the case file, 00:21:17.700 --> 00:21:20.539 I'd really want to know what these friends at 00:21:20.539 --> 00:21:23.259 this party said happened. And, you know, did 00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:25.759 her roommate leave that night and sleep somewhere 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:28.660 else? Was her roommate... there when this happened 00:21:28.660 --> 00:21:31.319 and just didn't wake like what happened and what 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:35.299 did they say happened because it seems like they 00:21:35.299 --> 00:21:38.099 are all the last people to see shana alive besides 00:21:38.099 --> 00:21:42.119 the killer so minute for minute what happened 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.039 that night and then once you left shana where 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.279 were you minute for minute you know like i'm 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.319 very curious about all of that i'm glad you went 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.539 back to that because it brought me to the beginning 00:21:53.539 --> 00:21:56.700 of the timeline which is the the boyfriend, the 00:21:56.700 --> 00:21:59.819 roommate, the friend, the neighbor? Were they 00:21:59.819 --> 00:22:03.000 included in the 300 interviews? Were they investigated? 00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:08.220 Was anyone in that group a suspect? And I know 00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:11.319 you may not be able to answer those questions, 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.200 but I circled right to that, to the people that 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:19.029 were around her most immediately. Yeah, we don't 00:22:19.029 --> 00:22:21.910 really know anything. Police have been very tight 00:22:21.910 --> 00:22:24.509 lipped about those friends, what they've said. 00:22:24.730 --> 00:22:28.190 They've never publicly said anything about what 00:22:28.190 --> 00:22:30.730 happened that night beyond, you know, there were 00:22:30.730 --> 00:22:33.190 Shana and three other people there and they were 00:22:33.190 --> 00:22:37.150 playing cards. Her boyfriend's like his identity, 00:22:37.289 --> 00:22:39.410 like this new boyfriend that her family kind 00:22:39.410 --> 00:22:42.089 of talked about. His identity never really comes 00:22:42.089 --> 00:22:46.130 forward. It's unclear if he's one of the boys 00:22:46.130 --> 00:22:49.180 that were. was there um i believe one of them 00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:52.680 was tanya her roommate's boyfriend but yeah just 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.799 what happened what did they say happened and 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:59.559 it's interesting that like throughout the reporting 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.500 of the story typically like you hear from other 00:23:02.500 --> 00:23:04.339 friends and we heard a lot from sheena's family 00:23:04.339 --> 00:23:06.799 in the reporting but you never heard from the 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.559 roommate which i always thought was a little 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.920 interesting that that roommate obviously would 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.410 be very traumatized so Maybe there's good reason 00:23:13.410 --> 00:23:15.289 she wasn't talking if she is truly innocent. 00:23:15.829 --> 00:23:18.509 But yeah, just a really interesting question 00:23:18.509 --> 00:23:22.589 to know what happened to or what happened with 00:23:22.589 --> 00:23:26.450 all of them and what their story is. You know, 00:23:26.470 --> 00:23:29.869 I do hope in this case that with all the evidence, 00:23:29.950 --> 00:23:32.210 we know police collected a lot of evidence, nearly 00:23:32.210 --> 00:23:35.930 200 pieces. So I would be curious to know what 00:23:35.930 --> 00:23:37.990 evidence they have, if they were ever able to 00:23:37.990 --> 00:23:42.289 get a DNA profile of the killer or. suspected 00:23:42.289 --> 00:23:45.569 killer. And, you know, if they weren't able to 00:23:45.569 --> 00:23:48.809 test it or get that DNA back in 1995, is there 00:23:48.809 --> 00:23:51.869 anything left that we could retest today to maybe 00:23:51.869 --> 00:23:54.690 get an updated profile to put into databases 00:23:54.690 --> 00:23:57.210 to see if there's a hit? Because with a crime 00:23:57.210 --> 00:24:00.549 of this violence, statistically, it seems likely 00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:02.849 that they committed another violent crime that 00:24:02.849 --> 00:24:05.990 would put them in a database. So where is all 00:24:05.990 --> 00:24:08.230 the evidence in this and what is the status of 00:24:08.230 --> 00:24:11.299 it? I hope that this case can be solved because 00:24:11.299 --> 00:24:14.799 there was so much evidence that they're able 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:18.500 to bring justice and answer and have somebody 00:24:18.500 --> 00:24:22.900 have to answer for all of this. I think our listeners 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:25.119 will agree that there's a sense of immediacy 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.000 around this case because of how violent her death 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:32.500 was. So I think that with new ears listening, 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:38.140 new eyes on Shana's name is only a positive thing. 00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:41.859 So again, if you know anything about the murder 00:24:41.859 --> 00:24:46.259 of Shana Jaros in November of 1995, please call 00:24:46.259 --> 00:24:49.140 the Illinois State Police Zone 6 Investigations 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:54.759 at 618 -346 -3990 or you can call Crime Stoppers 00:24:54.759 --> 00:25:01.680 at 1 -800 -352 -0136. If you're not already, 00:25:01.940 --> 00:25:05.460 please follow us at our Instagram at coldandmissing. 00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:07.119 You should be able to type in our name and we'll 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.940 pop right up. We will be posting pictures of 00:25:09.940 --> 00:25:11.940 Shana on there. So please share them, especially 00:25:11.940 --> 00:25:13.880 if you've never heard this case before. 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