WEBVTT 00:00:08.269 --> 00:00:10.789 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and 00:00:10.789 --> 00:00:13.710 Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. All 00:00:13.710 --> 00:00:16.129 parties mentioned are considered innocent until 00:00:16.129 --> 00:00:18.929 proven guilty in a court of law. Cold and Missing 00:00:18.929 --> 00:00:22.390 also contains adult themes and languages. Listener 00:00:22.390 --> 00:00:26.230 discretion is advised. I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin 00:00:26.230 --> 00:00:29.030 -Solkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Solkowski. 00:00:29.250 --> 00:00:31.289 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover 00:00:31.289 --> 00:00:35.030 cold cases and missing person cases. Hello, everyone, 00:00:35.030 --> 00:00:37.189 and welcome back to Cold and Missing. I'm your 00:00:37.189 --> 00:00:40.149 host, Ali. And I'm your co -host, Eli. Welcome 00:00:40.149 --> 00:00:42.909 back, everyone. I know we had to take the week 00:00:42.909 --> 00:00:44.909 off. You know, it was just so hard around here 00:00:44.909 --> 00:00:47.049 with the 4th of July. There were bangs, booms, 00:00:47.049 --> 00:00:49.829 parties. It was very hard to get clean audio, 00:00:50.049 --> 00:00:52.409 so we decided to take the week off. I think we 00:00:52.409 --> 00:00:55.490 took the week off the year before, too, on the 00:00:55.490 --> 00:00:57.530 4th of July, so maybe that will just be something 00:00:57.530 --> 00:01:00.170 going forward until we can get into a proper 00:01:00.170 --> 00:01:03.049 studio. As long as we're home recording, the 00:01:03.049 --> 00:01:05.750 bangs and the booms were too much for me. But 00:01:05.750 --> 00:01:10.049 we are back this week and we are on episode 135. 00:01:11.469 --> 00:01:15.209 If you are new here, I encourage you to go back 00:01:15.209 --> 00:01:18.390 and take a listen to our backlog. We have tons 00:01:18.390 --> 00:01:22.310 of episodes that are always worth having a new 00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:26.230 listen to. So please go back and listen to what's 00:01:26.230 --> 00:01:29.090 in our backlog. But I think we should just go 00:01:29.090 --> 00:01:32.609 ahead and get into this week's episode. I believe 00:01:32.609 --> 00:01:35.069 we are covering a cold case this week, right? 00:01:35.670 --> 00:01:39.769 That's right. All right, let's get into it. Today, 00:01:39.930 --> 00:01:43.469 we are covering the cold case of Keysone Khounpanya , 00:01:43.609 --> 00:01:48.069 and this takes place in January of 2000 in Hurst, 00:01:48.109 --> 00:01:51.769 Texas. But first, a little bit about Keysone. 00:01:52.450 --> 00:01:57.069 Keysone Khounpanya was 49 years old in 2000. She 00:01:57.069 --> 00:01:59.670 was divorced with three grown children and a 00:01:59.670 --> 00:02:03.180 few grandchildren she adored. Kaysone was originally 00:02:03.180 --> 00:02:05.719 from Laos, but she had come to the United States 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.800 in 1976 with a dream. A dream to pursue music 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:13.340 and build a better life. She lived in Massachusetts 00:02:13.340 --> 00:02:15.620 for years, working hard to build her future. 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:20.460 And in 1996, she became a U .S. citizen. In 1997, 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.439 she moved to Texas, settling into the Oak Tree 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:26.500 Village Apartments in Hearst. She lived alone 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:29.060 in a modest second -floor apartment and worked 00:02:29.060 --> 00:02:31.759 at a product identification company called Willet 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.879 America in nearby Holtham City. She was a dedicated 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.699 employee for nearly two years until she was laid 00:02:38.699 --> 00:02:42.620 off in late 1990. The company still thought highly 00:02:42.620 --> 00:02:44.759 of her, and she seemed to think highly of the 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:48.020 company. She even attended the company holiday 00:02:48.020 --> 00:02:52.039 party just weeks after she was laid off. Kaysone’s 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.590 true love, though, was music. Friends and family 00:02:55.590 --> 00:02:58.669 say she loved to sing. She even recorded her 00:02:58.669 --> 00:03:01.949 own demo tape and performed 1950s Americana music 00:03:01.949 --> 00:03:04.889 at nightclubs, weddings, and sometimes even at 00:03:04.889 --> 00:03:08.629 local country clubs. An ex -boyfriend said that 00:03:08.629 --> 00:03:11.930 she was, quote, a sweet woman, and others remember 00:03:11.930 --> 00:03:15.789 her as a caring and hardworking person. The kind 00:03:15.789 --> 00:03:18.449 of person who never raised her voice, and several 00:03:18.449 --> 00:03:20.949 people in her life commented at what a good cook 00:03:20.949 --> 00:03:26.460 she was. But 1999 had been hard for Kaysone. She'd 00:03:26.460 --> 00:03:29.340 had surgery for health issues, including a hysterectomy 00:03:29.340 --> 00:03:32.280 and even an amputation of a middle finger due 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.699 to an old snake bite that didn't heal correctly. 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.300 She was also worried about her finances since 00:03:38.300 --> 00:03:41.419 she was losing her steady job. Right before a 00:03:41.419 --> 00:03:44.039 timeline picks up, Kaysone had recently asked 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.979 her boyfriend, Khumphou, to move out of her apartment. 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.810 He said, quote, I didn't have a problem with 00:03:53.810 --> 00:03:58.490 that, so I moved. I still kept helping her. And 00:03:58.490 --> 00:04:03.629 now, a timeline of events. Tuesday, January 11, 00:04:03.949 --> 00:04:09.009 2000. Kason's ex -boyfriend, Kung Fu, started 00:04:09.009 --> 00:04:11.849 to get concerned. He hadn't heard from her in 00:04:11.849 --> 00:04:14.550 about a week, and he had taken her car to get 00:04:14.550 --> 00:04:17.910 it repaired. He said, quote, I had her car trying 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:19.910 to get it repaired, and I was trying to reach 00:04:19.910 --> 00:04:23.709 her to give it back. I couldn't find her. So 00:04:23.709 --> 00:04:26.509 the morning of Tuesday, he calls 911 and asks 00:04:26.509 --> 00:04:29.790 for a welfare check. Around 9 .30 that morning, 00:04:29.949 --> 00:04:32.490 the apartment manager led police to her second 00:04:32.490 --> 00:04:36.829 -floor unit. The door was unlocked. Police entered 00:04:36.829 --> 00:04:39.490 the apartment and find a living room full of 00:04:39.490 --> 00:04:42.750 blood. They start searching the apartment and 00:04:42.750 --> 00:04:46.269 quickly locate Keysone in her bedroom. She was 00:04:46.269 --> 00:04:49.209 lying on her bedroom floor, dressed in a sweatshirt 00:04:49.209 --> 00:04:52.370 and pants. Her hands were tied behind her back. 00:04:53.629 --> 00:04:56.089 Investigators believe the attack began in the 00:04:56.089 --> 00:04:59.129 living room. They found bloodstains there and 00:04:59.129 --> 00:05:02.050 a kitchen knife, which police say was used in 00:05:02.050 --> 00:05:05.790 the initial attack of her. Police theorize that 00:05:05.790 --> 00:05:07.949 Keysone was stabbed in the neck and cut during 00:05:07.949 --> 00:05:12.050 a struggle. Despite her injuries, she may have 00:05:12.050 --> 00:05:14.370 fought to free herself from the binds for some 00:05:14.370 --> 00:05:17.209 time before the killer placed a pillow against 00:05:17.209 --> 00:05:19.970 the back of her head. pressed a gun to it, and 00:05:19.970 --> 00:05:24.149 fired a single fatal shot. Police did not recover 00:05:24.149 --> 00:05:27.790 a gun at the scene. The scene was violent but 00:05:27.790 --> 00:05:31.930 strange. Nothing obvious seemed stolen, but boxes 00:05:31.930 --> 00:05:35.050 in her bedroom closet were scattered and an empty 00:05:35.050 --> 00:05:37.769 jewelry box sat on the kitchen toaster oven. 00:05:38.170 --> 00:05:40.850 Her jewelry was missing, but nothing expensive. 00:05:41.550 --> 00:05:44.329 Police began going door to door to talk to neighbors. 00:05:45.149 --> 00:05:47.230 Several neighbors reported seeing her in the 00:05:47.230 --> 00:05:50.290 complex the weekend before. One neighbor told 00:05:50.290 --> 00:05:53.230 police they saw and heard her as recently as 00:05:53.230 --> 00:05:57.189 Sunday afternoon, January 9th. They said they 00:05:57.189 --> 00:06:00.009 heard her playing her demo tape and singing just 00:06:00.009 --> 00:06:02.930 after the Dallas Cowboys' playoff game had started. 00:06:03.350 --> 00:06:06.410 In the following days, police and detectives 00:06:06.410 --> 00:06:08.589 interview neighbors and members of the local 00:06:08.589 --> 00:06:12.500 Laotian community. They learned more about Keysone’s 00:06:12.500 --> 00:06:15.040 weekend performances and her presence in the 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:18.699 Laotian American music scene. Detectives were 00:06:18.699 --> 00:06:21.579 told that the community was open to helping them, 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.300 and the news of Keysone’s murder spread quickly, 00:06:24.500 --> 00:06:28.480 but no tips ever came in to police. Weeks passed 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:33.199 by. By February, six weeks after Keysone’s murder, 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:37.240 police are still searching for leads. including 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:39.800 trying to identify the new boyfriend that she 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.339 had told her ex about. Investigators believe 00:06:43.339 --> 00:06:46.040 it's likely that Kaysone let her killer into the 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.579 apartment herself, since there was no sign of 00:06:48.579 --> 00:06:51.779 forced entry. Her ex -boyfriend told reporters 00:06:51.779 --> 00:07:05.040 at the time, quote, But after this update, after 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:09.029 six weeks, The case goes cold. Police don't ever 00:07:09.029 --> 00:07:12.750 update and the case falls out of the media. So 00:07:12.750 --> 00:07:15.550 that is truly all we know about Keysone’s murder. 00:07:16.370 --> 00:07:19.189 So if you have any information about the murder 00:07:19.189 --> 00:07:22.649 of Keysone Khounpanya , please contact the Hurst 00:07:22.649 --> 00:07:29.769 Police Department at 817 -788 -7180. So that 00:07:29.769 --> 00:07:35.439 is the cold case of Keysone Khounpanya. Just to immediately 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:41.980 jump into Kayson's character, and I mean just 00:07:41.980 --> 00:07:47.220 her character qualities, her personality, I think 00:07:47.220 --> 00:07:49.360 it speaks volumes about a person who is willing 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:53.620 to attend their company Christmas party, even 00:07:53.620 --> 00:07:57.879 post being laid off. I think it says that she 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.779 not only really loved where she worked, but loved 00:08:01.779 --> 00:08:04.259 the community of people. That she was working 00:08:04.259 --> 00:08:06.240 with, because I think that's really where most 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.720 jobs keep their people is that they're working 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.259 in a good environment amongst good people. And 00:08:13.259 --> 00:08:17.519 it seems like that's exactly what she was like 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.980 to work with as well. Yeah. And, you know, that 00:08:20.980 --> 00:08:24.579 detail to me kind of spoke to like how hopeful 00:08:24.579 --> 00:08:27.879 she could be to like, oh, you know, maybe if 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.899 I show up to the party and, you know. People 00:08:30.899 --> 00:08:33.460 remember how great I am. Like, I'll get hired 00:08:33.460 --> 00:08:35.600 back quickly. Like, I think it was also, like, 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:38.340 a smart move just, like, career -wise. Like, 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:40.080 you know, almost like a networking event. Like, 00:08:40.100 --> 00:08:45.559 she was working hard and hustling, and I just 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.399 really admire that. Yeah, and what she was going 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:54.179 through at the time prior to her murder, I remember... 00:08:55.110 --> 00:08:58.629 My mom was actually around the same age when 00:08:58.629 --> 00:09:01.789 she had her hysterectomy. And again, it was in 00:09:01.789 --> 00:09:05.730 the 90s. And I know from what I remember of that 00:09:05.730 --> 00:09:09.610 time period, it's a very difficult recovery and 00:09:09.610 --> 00:09:13.450 can be a huge hormone imbalance and very hard 00:09:13.450 --> 00:09:16.590 on the body, like any surgery. So just the place 00:09:16.590 --> 00:09:19.110 that she was in and knowing how hard she was 00:09:19.110 --> 00:09:22.909 working, she just sounded like one hell of a 00:09:22.909 --> 00:09:27.139 person. For sure. And, you know, her music career 00:09:27.139 --> 00:09:30.720 was really where her passion lied. And it seems 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:34.340 like every weekend she was out singing at a club, 00:09:34.379 --> 00:09:37.740 at a nightclub, at a wedding. Like she loved 00:09:37.740 --> 00:09:40.419 to sing. Her ex -boyfriend, who we talked about 00:09:40.419 --> 00:09:42.440 in the timeline, would play keyboards like she 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.700 had a whole band behind her. Just really incredible. 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:49.000 I wish I could have found like. you know, a sample 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.679 of her singing or like a video of it. But I don't 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.179 know that there's one on the internet, quite 00:09:54.179 --> 00:09:57.419 frankly. Yeah. And that was another thing I wanted 00:09:57.419 --> 00:10:01.399 to dive into about her, her commitment to her 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:06.899 artistry. It was beautifully relentless. And 00:10:06.899 --> 00:10:11.379 that's how I navigate my own art career. In all 00:10:11.379 --> 00:10:15.419 of my artistry, I create because I must, because 00:10:15.419 --> 00:10:20.059 I have to. I will create regardless of if anyone 00:10:20.059 --> 00:10:22.779 sees my art or not. That's paintings, acting, 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:27.120 singing, performing. And I think she was very 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.899 much in the same vein. So to know a person like 00:10:29.899 --> 00:10:33.399 that was taken so violently is deeply unfair. 00:10:33.700 --> 00:10:36.379 And I'm really interested to dive into this timeline 00:10:36.379 --> 00:10:38.720 and what happened here and hopefully her name. 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:41.940 is spoken more now that we've covered this case. 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.960 Yeah, when I found this case, I couldn't really 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:49.179 find a lot of information on it. I had, you know, 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.840 some news articles to go off of. And in those, 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:54.860 you know, there was like a wealth of information 00:10:54.860 --> 00:10:57.639 about her. But as far as details about the investigation, 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.039 I do have some, obviously. But yeah, there was 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.759 very little updates on this throughout the years. 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.679 We've gone back and forth. about this on the 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:12.460 podcast about how important it is to cover not 00:11:12.460 --> 00:11:15.059 only the cases but the people themselves and 00:11:15.059 --> 00:11:18.039 who they were and what they were doing and you 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:19.879 know that's the same that's the same thing here 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.899 I think it's worth talking about people's personalities 00:11:22.899 --> 00:11:25.080 and characteristics and what they looked like 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:27.840 because it may drum up some information and because 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.000 there is so little here I'm hoping that talking 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:34.820 about her very specific personality and her name 00:11:34.820 --> 00:11:41.100 will drum up that same thing. For sure. And, 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.919 you know, K -Zone and everyone we cover here 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.200 on Cold and Missing, they deserve to be talked 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.539 about and spoken about fondly and remembered 00:11:49.539 --> 00:11:53.360 fondly for who they were, not just how their 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:57.179 life ended. So, yeah. You know, with all that 00:11:57.179 --> 00:12:01.240 said, though, do you have any questions about 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:10.240 the timeline? Just what time it was, the time 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:14.759 of day and how much time had passed between her 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:18.340 ex -boyfriend worrying and when law enforcement 00:12:18.340 --> 00:12:23.580 entered the apartment. Yeah, so from my understanding. 00:12:25.580 --> 00:12:28.679 Khumphou, Keysone’s ex -boyfriend who she had 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.059 lived with for most of 1999, but just a few weeks 00:12:32.059 --> 00:12:34.639 before the timeline picks up, she asks him to 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:39.159 move out. He had taken her car because it had 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:44.480 broken down. And I believe he had it for like 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.279 a week trying to get it fixed for her. And then 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.960 he was trying to get in contact with her to return 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.679 the car and she wasn't picking up her phone. 00:12:53.820 --> 00:12:57.269 I don't know. Did he try to go over there? Did 00:12:57.269 --> 00:12:59.649 he knock on the door? I don't know any of those 00:12:59.649 --> 00:13:02.070 details, but I do know that he tried to contact 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:04.529 her several times, and when he wasn't getting 00:13:04.529 --> 00:13:09.110 an answer, he called police. Yeah, I think that, 00:13:09.129 --> 00:13:14.870 to me, I'm interested in what that, if it's days 00:13:14.870 --> 00:13:19.450 or hours, what that timeline looks like, because 00:13:19.450 --> 00:13:23.679 this is a time of... I mean, yes, there were 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:25.720 cell phones, but not a lot of people had them, 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:27.559 and I don't think that they were involved in 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:32.980 this case. I think it really does matter when 00:13:32.980 --> 00:13:37.580 she was last seen down to when she was found. 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.360 And I know that that information might not be 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.720 there, but I think it's a key placeholder in 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:49.029 this case. So here's a few more specifics. I 00:13:49.029 --> 00:13:51.549 went back into the notes I take whenever I'm 00:13:51.549 --> 00:13:54.370 researching. So Khumphou said that it had been 00:13:54.370 --> 00:13:57.769 at least since January 4th since he had spoken 00:13:57.769 --> 00:14:01.809 to her. And our timeline picks up on Tuesday, 00:14:02.009 --> 00:14:05.529 January 11th. So, yeah, about a week there. And 00:14:05.529 --> 00:14:10.659 then we know neighbors are sure that. There are 00:14:10.659 --> 00:14:12.620 several neighbors, in fact, that say they saw 00:14:12.620 --> 00:14:15.659 her in the complex that weekend. I believe someone 00:14:15.659 --> 00:14:21.120 saw her in the parking lot. And then a neighbor 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.460 to her building says that he heard her singing 00:14:24.460 --> 00:14:28.100 just after the kickoff of the football game on 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:31.200 Sunday. So he heard her singing in her apartment. 00:14:31.340 --> 00:14:34.779 He also mentioned that her demo CD was playing, 00:14:34.860 --> 00:14:37.539 like people heard that as well. So I am curious, 00:14:37.620 --> 00:14:40.669 like. Did they hear her singing or did they just 00:14:40.669 --> 00:14:42.970 hear her demo tape? Because that's a question 00:14:42.970 --> 00:14:46.009 I have about that Sunday. But people say they 00:14:46.009 --> 00:14:51.690 heard her. Yeah, that was my next big question. 00:14:52.350 --> 00:14:57.710 Was that music playing or was it actually her? 00:14:57.850 --> 00:14:59.789 Because if it had been playing, you know, if 00:14:59.789 --> 00:15:04.590 it had been playing 24 -7 for a day or two, I 00:15:04.590 --> 00:15:07.490 don't... The beginning of that timeline to me, 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:10.429 I just, I really wish we had more information 00:15:10.429 --> 00:15:15.490 on because I think it would, I mean, this is 00:15:15.490 --> 00:15:20.649 obvious, it would fill in the timeline. And I'm 00:15:20.649 --> 00:15:23.110 just racking my brain. I would give anything 00:15:23.110 --> 00:15:27.090 to go to that moment and zero in to know what 00:15:27.090 --> 00:15:31.149 happened. Yeah. And like I said, I'd love to 00:15:31.149 --> 00:15:35.049 know to what extent her ex -boyfriend had gone 00:15:35.049 --> 00:15:37.090 through to try to contact her. Like, had he gone 00:15:37.090 --> 00:15:39.909 over there and knocked on the door and didn't 00:15:39.909 --> 00:15:42.690 hear anything? When did he go over there? Did 00:15:42.690 --> 00:15:45.090 he try to open the door and, you know, it was 00:15:45.090 --> 00:15:47.669 locked? We know when police arrive, the door 00:15:47.669 --> 00:15:49.590 is unlocked. So, you know, like details like 00:15:49.590 --> 00:15:54.169 that, I think I hope police have them. But I 00:15:54.169 --> 00:15:56.649 think, you know, those are things that I would 00:15:56.649 --> 00:16:02.149 want to know. Some specifics that I wanted to 00:16:02.149 --> 00:16:07.230 get into and ask you about was about what law 00:16:07.230 --> 00:16:10.710 enforcement found when they went into Keysone’s 00:16:10.710 --> 00:16:17.230 apartment. More specifically, I guess I wanted 00:16:17.230 --> 00:16:20.970 to know what you thought about the pillow on 00:16:20.970 --> 00:16:26.470 her head. My first question is, was it intended 00:16:26.470 --> 00:16:32.220 to muffle? That's my thought when I read about 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:35.679 that, is that whoever the murderer was was using 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:41.059 the pillow as kind of a silencer and was trying 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:44.720 to dampen the noise of the gun. I know we've 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.159 covered cases like Kayson's before, and to me 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.600 this reads as she was either being watched or 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.080 she did know the perpetrator. And I guess I wanted 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.990 to know what you thought about that. Yeah, so 00:16:59.990 --> 00:17:03.990 police believe that she knew the murderer because 00:17:03.990 --> 00:17:06.609 there was no sign of forced entry. But I know 00:17:06.609 --> 00:17:08.750 we've talked about this before, and it's like 00:17:08.750 --> 00:17:11.549 there's a lot of ways to get someone to open 00:17:11.549 --> 00:17:15.029 their door and kind of force your way inside 00:17:15.029 --> 00:17:17.769 without necessarily kicking in a door, breaking 00:17:17.769 --> 00:17:20.329 a window, those obvious signs of forced entry. 00:17:20.390 --> 00:17:24.309 So that's something I've started to not jump 00:17:24.309 --> 00:17:29.119 to so quickly. You know, we hear it a lot in 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.740 true crime, but, you know, stabbing someone is 00:17:31.740 --> 00:17:34.920 very personal. And that's how this attack started 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.000 was it seemed to be, according to police, that, 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:39.859 you know, she was attacked first with a knife. 00:17:40.819 --> 00:17:47.039 So that leads me to think that, yeah, maybe it 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.279 was somebody who had, you know, a grievance against 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:53.240 her, was mad at her for some reason. And also 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.000 the way that nothing of real value was stolen. 00:17:57.309 --> 00:18:00.529 But the place was kind of ransacked. Sometimes, 00:18:00.789 --> 00:18:02.930 you know, we've seen this in other cases where 00:18:02.930 --> 00:18:05.650 someone's just trying to stage like a robbery. 00:18:05.849 --> 00:18:10.329 So I do think that's what happened here, that 00:18:10.329 --> 00:18:12.609 someone was trying to stage a robbery at least, 00:18:12.630 --> 00:18:15.509 since nothing of true value was stolen. We know 00:18:15.509 --> 00:18:18.450 her jewelry was taken, but nothing that was expensive. 00:18:18.509 --> 00:18:20.910 So I don't know if there was expensive jewelry 00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:24.369 left at the apartment or if maybe she just didn't 00:18:24.369 --> 00:18:29.880 own any really fine jewelry. And I guess with 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:32.920 that, there's always the possibility that whoever 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.359 was committing the crime thought that there was 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:40.119 something more in the apartment. Maybe she said 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:43.299 something in passing and that person heard of 00:18:43.299 --> 00:18:45.779 it and thought it was something more than it 00:18:45.779 --> 00:18:50.900 actually was. But moving on from that, what's 00:18:50.900 --> 00:18:54.420 with the new boyfriend that we don't really hear 00:18:54.420 --> 00:18:59.759 anything about? I guess I want to know your take 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:04.319 on him and, you know, if any of her love interests 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:09.819 had been questioned in this case. Yeah, great 00:19:09.819 --> 00:19:13.279 question. And it's one that I have as well. I 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:17.660 would assume that police investigated her ex 00:19:17.660 --> 00:19:20.319 -boyfriend. We know that he called the police 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:23.059 to, you know, do the initial welfare check on 00:19:23.059 --> 00:19:26.890 her. So I would assume police checked out his 00:19:26.890 --> 00:19:29.470 alibi, were able to rule him out. He's never 00:19:29.470 --> 00:19:32.109 been named as a suspect. But the timing of it 00:19:32.109 --> 00:19:37.109 all is very suspicious for me. So, you know, 00:19:37.109 --> 00:19:40.150 if I was able to sit down and read everything 00:19:40.150 --> 00:19:41.970 in the police file, I think the first place I 00:19:41.970 --> 00:19:44.549 would actually go is an interview with her ex 00:19:44.549 --> 00:19:47.450 -boyfriend. And just to really understand how 00:19:47.450 --> 00:19:50.289 this person has been ruled out, because everything 00:19:50.289 --> 00:19:52.349 else is kind of suspicious. Like there's this. 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.119 She's asked him to move out. You know, he says 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:57.880 he's fine with it. He doesn't have any hard feelings. 00:19:57.980 --> 00:20:00.039 She found a new man. That's fine. He continues 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:05.660 to help her. He had her car. And, you know, he 00:20:05.660 --> 00:20:09.259 was getting it fixed. But it's just all like 00:20:09.259 --> 00:20:12.319 the timing of it just seems suspicious. And then 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:14.759 police, to the best of my knowledge, were never 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.579 able to find the identity of the new boyfriend, 00:20:18.740 --> 00:20:22.569 the new lover. I would be curious to see. If 00:20:22.569 --> 00:20:25.750 any witnesses had seen somebody new coming around 00:20:25.750 --> 00:20:29.089 the apartment, you know, we have witnesses seeing 00:20:29.089 --> 00:20:32.509 her in the complex. Did they see a man with her 00:20:32.509 --> 00:20:35.170 coming and going, somebody they didn't recognize 00:20:35.170 --> 00:20:38.630 even? So those are all questions I have. It just, 00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:44.940 it seems like Keysone was very... in her community 00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:48.119 you know she was singing she was in the Laotian 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.039 community and it was a pretty tight -knit group 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:52.680 so it just seems strange to me that nobody would 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:57.660 know who the new boyfriend is at all but that 00:20:57.660 --> 00:21:00.299 is somebody who I also suspect you know if that 00:21:00.299 --> 00:21:03.039 is a real person he would be on my suspect list 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:07.339 yeah I'm also curious to know if it was reported 00:21:07.339 --> 00:21:18.480 or if there was any sort of Yeah, and I think 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.599 this is a crime scene where, you know, there 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:23.000 really could have been some evidence. You know, 00:21:23.059 --> 00:21:24.880 it seemed like there was a fight, a struggle. 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.500 Her hands were bound behind her back. I mean, 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:31.480 we see duct tape being a place. where evidence 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.019 can live for years. You know, they did find the 00:21:35.019 --> 00:21:36.859 knife that they believe was used in the attack. 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.700 A lot of times, you know, an attacker will slip 00:21:39.700 --> 00:21:42.880 and cut themselves. So is their DNA there? You 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:46.619 know, did they swab, collect swabs at the time? 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.180 DNA was still, you know, kind of at the beginnings 00:21:52.180 --> 00:21:56.619 of, you know. law enforcement and solving crime, 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.660 but what evidence was kept in this case that 00:21:59.660 --> 00:22:02.200 possibly could be retested today? Even the pillow, 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:07.660 I'm thinking of contact DNA, holding it. Do we 00:22:07.660 --> 00:22:09.640 have any evidence of what kind of gun was used 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:12.619 from the pillow? There's just, I think there's 00:22:12.619 --> 00:22:14.539 a lot of evidence there and I would be curious 00:22:14.539 --> 00:22:19.799 what has been tested since 2000. Yeah, exactly. 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:26.180 Because there is a crime scene here. I'm so curious 00:22:26.180 --> 00:22:31.519 to know what, if there was anything found, because 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:34.660 again, key details would be in that evidence 00:22:34.660 --> 00:22:38.460 and again, fill in the timeline. Either way, 00:22:38.500 --> 00:22:41.000 I'm so grateful to know Keysone’s name and case 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:44.059 and that you brought it here today. Yeah, this 00:22:44.059 --> 00:22:47.259 is a case that, you know, I saw Keysone’s picture 00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:50.480 first and as I started researching it and finding 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.470 details about her case and about her, It just 00:22:53.470 --> 00:22:55.450 felt really important to bring, you know, not 00:22:55.450 --> 00:22:58.029 only to you, but to all our listeners as well, 00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:01.569 because I think. This is an important case. And 00:23:01.569 --> 00:23:04.930 I really feel like this is a case that is solvable. 00:23:05.069 --> 00:23:07.029 I think all our cases are solvable because someone 00:23:07.029 --> 00:23:09.390 knows something. But I think this is something 00:23:09.390 --> 00:23:11.589 where if police went back and looked at it, if 00:23:11.589 --> 00:23:14.269 they get pressure, if they get questions, if 00:23:14.269 --> 00:23:16.630 people start talking about case on, then like 00:23:16.630 --> 00:23:19.390 maybe they'll bring it out and use some of their 00:23:19.390 --> 00:23:21.970 resources to retest evidence. Technology has 00:23:21.970 --> 00:23:25.329 come so far in the last 25 years that I really 00:23:25.329 --> 00:23:29.269 believe there would be some DNA available. to 00:23:29.269 --> 00:23:32.390 have as a profile at least. Yeah, I mean, revisiting 00:23:32.390 --> 00:23:34.710 the case, revisiting the evidence also brings 00:23:34.710 --> 00:23:37.670 new eyes to the case, which is a great thing 00:23:37.670 --> 00:23:40.789 for cold cases like this that have been quiet 00:23:40.789 --> 00:23:45.349 for what is a long time, but still recent enough 00:23:45.349 --> 00:23:49.529 that there could be evidence tested, scientific 00:23:49.529 --> 00:23:54.930 findings there that match DNA to a possible someone. 00:23:55.450 --> 00:23:57.470 And I think it's recent enough, too, that, you 00:23:57.470 --> 00:23:59.230 know, some of the players, the suspects even, 00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:01.829 could still be alive and, you know, people could 00:24:01.829 --> 00:24:05.230 still remember things from this time. So I really 00:24:05.230 --> 00:24:08.150 believe that this is a case that could be solved 00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:12.130 if enough resources are put towards it. And I 00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:15.210 think Keysone is so deserving of those resources. 00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:19.769 So again, if you know anything about the murder 00:24:19.769 --> 00:24:24.569 of Keysone Campana in January of 2000, please 00:24:24.569 --> 00:24:28.450 contact the Hearst Police Department at 817 -788 00:24:28.450 --> 00:24:34.650 -7180. We will, of course, have a picture of 00:24:34.650 --> 00:24:37.309 Kaysone on our Instagram, so please follow us 00:24:37.309 --> 00:24:40.730 there at Cold and Missing. 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Let's get her. picture out there. 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.519 Let's get her name out there. And let's put some 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.140 pressure on the police to just look at this again, 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:53.960 spend some time on it, spend some resources, 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.119 because Kayson is so deserving of that. Yeah, 00:25:58.180 --> 00:26:01.700 with our graphics, especially on Instagram, it's 00:26:01.700 --> 00:26:05.359 so easy to like, share, save. And those are... 00:26:06.159 --> 00:26:08.940 Besides engaging with the post itself and commenting, 00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:11.579 those are some excellent things you can do to 00:26:11.579 --> 00:26:14.460 push these cases around. Again, like Allie said, 00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:17.619 all of our cases that we cover are worthy of 00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:21.740 time spent on them. So please, please like, share, 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:25.819 and save the graphics. Thank you so much. 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