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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-sulkowski.

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And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.

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Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.

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I'm your host, Ali.

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And I'm your co-host, Eli.

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Thank you so much for joining us again and making us a part of your week.

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I'm excited to get into it this week.

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Episode 73?

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72.

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72.

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Alright.

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Great.

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Let's do it.

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So today we have a missing person case and just as a bit of a content warning at the

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top, this case does involve a young person.

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Today we are talking about the missing person case of Kevin McClam.

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And this takes place in March of 1997 in Goose Creek, South Carolina.

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But first, a little bit about Kevin.

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Kevin is 14 years old in 1997.

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He was born April 2nd, 1982, and Kevin and his family lived on the Naval Weapons Station

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right outside of Goose Creek, South Carolina.

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So it sits kind of in Goose Creek, but it also seems like it's its own entity outside

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of Goose Creek as well.

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Kevin's family moved onto the base around 1994 from Georgia.

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Kevin's dad is a recruiter, and the family took advantage of living in the cheaper military

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housing to help stretch the family budget.

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They lived in a five-bedroom duplex, but as soon as Tracy, Kevin's mom, moved in, she

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started to second-guess their choice.

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The military base gave her a bad feeling, and it wasn't exactly the most child-friendly

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place for her four children.

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Kevin adjusted well to his new school and surroundings, however.

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His teachers didn't have a bad thing to say about him, and Kevin was well-liked and played

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basketball at Marrington Middle School.

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Kevin was strong in his convictions and wasn't one to give into peer pressure.

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Kevin was athletic and had a good heart, according to his family.

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And now a timeline of events.

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On Saturday, March 29, 1997, Tracey, that's Kevin's mom, went out to play bingo that

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night.

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On the way home, she stopped at Kmart to pick up some more candy for the Easter baskets

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since the next day was Easter.

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Tracy gets home later, but Kevin and his younger sister are still up.

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They had been playing Super Mario Bros. in the den of the family duplex.

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The siblings and their mom talk for about an hour when Tracy and her daughter decide

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to go to bed.

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Kevin told his mom, quote, I'm going to stay up for a while and play Nintendo, end

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quote.

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This is around 1 a.m. on Sunday, March 30.

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So that Easter morning, when Tracy gets up to set the Easter baskets, she notices that

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Kevin is gone.

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Tracy prepares an Easter meal, and when Kevin doesn't show up to eat, she knows something

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is wrong.

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Kevin has never missed a meal in his life.

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Tracy begins searching for her son.

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She spends hours looking around the military base.

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There were no signs of struggle in the home or any signs of forced entry.

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After being unable to find her son, Tracy called the base commander for help.

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According to Tracy, the base commander was immediately mad that she would call him at

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his home.

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When that call ended, Tracy then phoned the chaplain, who said that he would get the black

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chaplain to the family who would, quote, understand her better, end quote.

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That same day, in the late afternoon to the early evening, a father and son were taking

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an Easter bike ride when they saw someone matching Kevin's description, walking along

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the road in boxers and tennis shoes.

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They said that he didn't seem panicked or under any stress.

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On Monday, March 31, 1997, so this is the next day, base security waited a full day

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before beginning to search for Kevin.

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They write Kevin off as a runaway, even though he had no history of that, and there was nothing

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in the days leading up to his disappearance that would suggest he wanted to run away.

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It is believed that when Kevin went missing, he was wearing an Orlando Magic T-shirt or

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jersey, both have been reported, a striped long sleeve shirt, and white pants.

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There was nothing else missing from his bedroom, which is another reason the family did not

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believe he ran away.

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On April 1, so this is two days after Kevin's disappearance, and a day before his 15th birthday,

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his clothes are found.

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His shirt, jersey, or the T-shirt were found along a dirt road near a construction site,

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not far from his home.

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I believe his pants were also found here as well.

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The clothes were found separated by five to 10 feet from each piece of clothing.

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His shoes and underwear were not amongst the clothing that was found.

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All of the clothes were spray painted.

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The clothes were also found in the same area where the witnesses, that father and son duo,

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will remember seeing a person walking in his boxers and shoes.

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And then from this time, it's not exactly clear what investigators do to find Kevin.

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It really is not covered in the media at all.

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The next big update we get is March 1998, so this is approaching the one year mark of

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Kevin's disappearance.

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And security officers on the base conduct a two day search through a woody and swampy

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area of the 1700 acre base.

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There are around 140 searchers, and that includes divers and sniffer dogs, but no trace of Kevin

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is found.

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Officials in the case say they are no closer to solving the case a year later than they

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were the day Kevin was reported missing.

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Rumors circulate that the case was not given the seriousness that it should have because

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the McClams are black.

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Tracy says quote, I never wanted to say that or think that, but I know it's a fact now.

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Tracy has become desperate in the search for her son.

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She spends hours every day since his disappearance looking for him.

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She even reached out to local psychics for help despite never believing in them before.

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Tracy racks her brain, but there were no signs that anything was wrong in Kevin's life.

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The only theory she can even guess at is that Kevin snuck out of the house and met up with

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friends when something horrible happened.

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Tracy talked to all of Kevin's friends, but they all denied seeing him that Easter Sunday.

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Tracy hopes that someone will come forward and say what they know about her son's disappearance.

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And then again, the case goes cold until May of 2005.

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So at this point, it's been eight years since Kevin's disappearance.

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A local news station does a special report on Kevin.

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As a result of the case getting more attention, a very credible tip comes into the NCIS.

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NCIS stands for Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

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Once that tip comes in, the case changes from a missing person case to a homicide investigation.

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That following January of 2006, the NCIS hold a press conference at the basketball court

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where Kevin would often play basketball and one of the last places that Kevin was seen.

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NCIS special agent Stan Garland says, quote, we know someone is lying.

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Kevin knows more than what they're saying about Kevin's disappearance, end quote.

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The NCIS also say that they have new forensic evidence that shows that Kevin may have known

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his killer.

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The NCIS say that they are interviewing people of interest at that time.

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In October of 2006, so it has been over nine years at this point, police bring cadaver

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dogs to search a 3000 square foot area on the Naval base.

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The special agent with the NCIS, John Nix Jr. said, quote, we turned up several items

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of interest.

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Further investigation will determine if they are relevant or not, end quote.

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Searchers didn't unearth any human remains.

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That part they do make clear, but they did bring in a backhoe to excavate an area across

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the street from the basketball court that Kevin used to play at.

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Base security are hopeful that there are still some people in the area that would have information.

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Nix said, quote, he still has friends here.

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The people that we're looking at, they still have friends here.

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We will get them eventually, end quote.

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A few months later, in December of 2006, police do name two suspects in Kevin's disappearance

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and what they believe is subsequent murder.

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The first person they name is Thomas McCardell, who was serving time in 2006 for a robbery

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charge.

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It's reported that while in their teenage years, McCardell and another man named Michael

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Moorcroft bragged about how they participated in the murder of Kevin.

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Later, Moorcroft will recant his statement and say that he was making the story up.

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Police say that there are three suspects altogether.

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The third person is never named by police.

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But police do say in December of 2006 to expect an arrest to be made in the next month following

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the announcement of these suspects.

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Police searched Moorcroft's childhood home with cadaver dogs and the dog does hit on

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an area under the shed.

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Police dig up the area, but they don't find anything of significance.

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To that, Moorcroft said that of course they wouldn't because he never did anything.

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But that is truly the last update that I could find on Kevin McClamm.

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So it kind of ends with the police being very confident that they were going to have an

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arrest, but those arrests never come.

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But if you know anything about the disappearance of Kevin McClamm in March of 1997, please

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call the Goose Creek Police at 803-572-4300 or you could report a tip to the NCIS online.

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And the sources for the timeline today come from the Atlanta Journal, the Times and Democrat,

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Post Curia, WIS 10, the Doe Network, and the Charlie Project.

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So that is the case of Kevin McClamm.

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I feel like usually when I'm listening to you tell me about a case for the first time,

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it's a bit of a slow wash over of information.

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And my usual immediate emotional response is just like tremendous sadness.

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And I do feel that in this case, but I was kind of pacing around listening.

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I'm so I'm just like furious, furious that that I didn't know that it was mishandled

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for numerous reasons.

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One of them being racism.

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I just want to ask you more questions.

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Is that right?

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Can we circle back to the like sighting of him in his underpants and shoes and like that's

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My first reaction was if that's a child walking around, I think I would be like, Hey, buddy,

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what are you doing?

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So between 2pm and 7pm on Easter Sunday in 1997, there's a father and son who are out

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riding a bike and they see someone who matches the description of Kevin walking in his boxer

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shorts and tennis shoes.

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But that's it.

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And I did read in a couple spots that there may have been other people who also saw him.

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But this father and son, it seems like they were maybe the closest to him.

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So it's never confirmed if that is Kevin or not.

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But it is close to where his clothes are found two days later.

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So they found everything except his boxers and shoes, which led people to think that

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this could have been him since that's all that he was wearing.

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I guess I question the adults who like saw that child and maybe knew who he was and like

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didn't say anything that feels I guess I don't like to point blame, but I'm just I don't

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understand what happened there.

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Yeah, when I was researching this case, I had a couple of theories.

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The first one is that maybe they just didn't know him.

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You know, Goose Creek is a bigger town.

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It is made up of this military base for sure.

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But you know, there are a lot of people in the military base, people coming and going

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kind of constantly.

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So I did consider that that maybe they did.

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They just didn't know him at all.

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And then I also had to think about the adultification of black children.

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And so, you know, he's a 14 year old teenage boy.

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And to some people, they would adultify him in their mind instantly.

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So they wouldn't see a child in his underwear walking down the street, they would see a

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man in his underwear walking down the street.

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So I think that could have also played a part in this as well.

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So I think between those two, somewhere lies the truth.

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And it might be a little bit of both, honestly.

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I guess I'd like to get into more of the suspects with the confessions.

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I'm sorry, I just heard it fresh.

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So just like a little recap.

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Yeah, so it seems that Michael Moorcroft had been heard kind of bragging about participating

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in the murder of Kevin, that he didn't disappear, he was murdered and implicated in this confession,

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I believe kind of everything that I read is Thomas McArdle as well.

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And there's also a third person that police say is a suspect, but is never named.

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So I don't know if he comes from this confession directly or not.

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But Moorcroft appears to have said some things that people later turned into the NCIS.

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And that is what kind of brought the spotlight over these two people.

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But it does seem like the NCIS was investigating them and talking to them for a while.

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They also bring in cadaver dogs to Moorcroft's childhood home.

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I believe his mother was still actually living there at the time.

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And there is a hit under the shed.

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But when they dig it up, nothing is found, nothing of any significance.

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And Moorcroft kind of points to this as saying that like, of course they didn't find anything

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because I didn't do it.

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I made it up.

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It was just a story.

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That's where that kind of stands.

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But the two of them have been named as suspects by police, by the NCIS, but they've never

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been arrested for any crime related to Kevin McClam.

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A case can become a homicide investigation even if there is no body.

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Is that correct?

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So it just kind of shifts how they investigate it.

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So we've seen this in other cases that we've covered where the person has been missing.

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But because of X, Y, or Z, they shift their investigation tactics to more of a homicide

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investigation.

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And that's how they look at it until proven otherwise.

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have forensic evidence saying that Kevin could have known his killer.

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And I just couldn't exactly find what that forensic evidence is.

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It doesn't appear like they got into details at that press conference.

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They just said they have forensic evidence.

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So I don't know if that also is how they got to their suspects that they eventually made,

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if that also plays a hand in this, as well as the confessions.

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But I would be very curious to know what that evidence is and where they got it from.

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I can only suspect that it's his clothing, since that's all we know that has been found

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of his.

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But that is something that I kept kind of returning to and rereading it, because I wasn't

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sure that I was reading it right.

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But they say it was forensic evidence that shows that Kevin may have known his killer.

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So I just don't know what that is, frankly.

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Yeah, it's an ambiguous statement, because we all know a lot of people, you know, it

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just doesn't say anything, which again is frustrating, which makes me think about Tracy,

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his mother, to have the realization like midway through the investigation of this system is

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killing me and like the case shifted from missing to homicide and to know like, I am

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being failed by this system because of x, y, and z racism being the main component and

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that I just, I'm just so sorry.

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And you know, as things were kind of heating up in this investigation, you know, 2005,

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2006, reporters did reach out to Tracy, her and her family had moved back to Georgia at

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that point.

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But she said something along the lines of all they can do now is keep faith and keep

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their faith, which they've had this whole time.

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And they also mentioned that they did have faith in the investigators.

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So it's like they still are wanting to believe that they're going to get help, which is sad.

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But what an incredible woman to still give people the benefit of the doubt and these

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new investigators on the case, giving them the benefit of the doubt that they would be

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helpful and they would close this case.

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And it really seems like for a minute that they were very confident it was going to be

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closed.

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They had like a special cold case unit that said that they weren't going to leave Goose

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Creek until the case was closed.

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But here we are in the year 2024 and the case is still not closed.

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So I want to believe that they are very close.

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They are just missing a few pieces of information, which it does sound like they believe is out

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there.

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If somebody knows more than what they're saying, somebody has been hiding something, somebody

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who either knows Kevin or knows the person that did it is keeping back information.

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So it does seem like it's out there somewhere.

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Well, I think that you bringing it to us will, you know, it's definitely a nudge forward

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and just getting his name out there.

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Again, if you know anything about the disappearance of Kevin McClamm in March of 1997, please

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call the Goose Creek Police at 803-572-4300 or you can go online and submit a tip to the

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NCIS that way.

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And they even have an app you can download to submit tips.

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It's just NCIS tips and you can send a tip that way.

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While we have you here still, hopefully, please, please, please, if you have a moment, rate

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We love seeing those reviews.

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And more importantly, we really we encourage the reviews because it helps get the podcasts

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out there, which helps get the names out there and cases out there just like Kevin's.

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So thank you.

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We'll also be posting pictures on our Instagram of Kevin.

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There is an age progress picture of him to the age of 33.

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So we'll be putting that up on our Instagram as well.

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So if you're not following us, that's a great way to keep up with the podcast, with the

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cases, and then just other things that we share in our stories that is kind of true

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So all that information is on Instagram.

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You can just search at cold and missing and we'll pop right up.

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You can also visit our website cold and missing.com where you can leave a review, you can listen

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to all our old episodes.

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And there are also transcripts on the website.

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So if you or someone you love is hard of hearing, you can follow along to the podcast that way.

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But that is all I have.

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Thank you again so much for listening to cold and missing.

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I'm your host, Ali.

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And I am your co host, Eli.

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Have a good week and stay safe, y'all.

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