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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.

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Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.

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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.

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And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.

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Hi everyone.

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I know I haven't been on a few episodes.

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And I just want to take a quick moment to say thank you to everyone in your outreach

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towards me and Ali during the unexpected passing of my mother.

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This is honestly probably the first time in my life that I really paid attention to myself

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emotionally and took care of myself and just honored and continue to honor my mother in

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respecting my grief process, which included not engaging with Cold and Missing in the

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way that I had previously, but I've missed recording and I've missed being in the booth

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with my beautiful and supportive wife.

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And I've just, I've missed being a part of what our mission is here, which is to help

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people find answers.

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My mother was a true crime sleuth, just like Ali and I.

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She is still someone, I still actively talk to her all the time.

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She's someone who stood for what my wife stands for in the mission of creating this podcast.

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And she also, I know it's Halloween and around Halloween and she loved just spooky season

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horror films as well.

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Yeah, she was a part of this community.

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So anytime you see a pink flower that really stands out to you, that's my mom saying hello.

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But with that, I am grateful to be back and I'm looking forward to this episode.

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But what do you have for us this week?

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So today we are covering a cold case and this comes from Ewing Township, New Jersey.

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All right, let's get into it.

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And just as a content warning at the top, there are some brief mentions of sexual assault.

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So today we are talking about the cold case of Sigrid Stevenson.

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And this takes place in September, 1977 in Ewing Township, New Jersey.

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But first a little bit about Sigrid.

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Sigrid was 25 years old in 1977.

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She was enrolled at Trenton State College, which is now known as the College of New Jersey.

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There she was pursuing her masters in music with hopes of one day becoming a teacher.

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Sigrid loved playing the piano.

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It was her passion.

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And so many memories of her friends from college involved her sitting at the piano bench.

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She was a fearless free spirit.

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At this time in 1977, she had hitchhiked through Canada and New England as a summer trip and

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she followed her own path.

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Sigrid loved playing the piano so much that she often snuck into buildings and spent the

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night in them so she could play into the night and early in the morning.

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She was passionate and kind and marched to the beat of her own drum.

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And now a timeline of events.

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On Friday, September 2, 1977, Sigrid returns back to campus after her hitchhiking adventure

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across Canada and New England.

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According to reports at this time, she was renting a room from a college professor during

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the summer, but classes were set to start on Thursday after the Labor Day holiday.

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So she would have been moving back into her dorm on Tuesday or Wednesday.

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On Saturday, September 3, a friend of Sigrid said that they saw her at the movies about

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15 miles from campus that afternoon.

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That evening, Sigrid headed over to Kendall Hall on campus to watch the final performance

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of the play JB.

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And just as a side note, this is a play about the retelling of Job from the Bible.

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After the show, Sigrid chatted with some of the cast and crew in the basement dressing room.

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Sigrid told them that she was locked out of her rented room and had planned to spend the

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night in Kendall Hall to practice the piano.

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Again, this is something that she had done in the past.

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She planned to sleep in a practice room or under the stage.

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That night, while at Kendall Hall, Sigrid wrote in her journal that she kept hearing loud

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banging coming from the theater that was keeping her up.

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The cast and crew were tearing down the set from JB.

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when the guard comes by.

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Sigrid had gotten into trouble for being in locked buildings before and wanted to avoid

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On Sunday, September 4, 1977, at around 1130 p.m., a guard was doing his rounds when he

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noticed Sigrid's green bicycle was locked up in front of Kendall Hall.

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guard seemed to think that the bike was out of place.

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She was center stage in the theater, surrounded by a pool of blood.

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She was nude.

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Her jeans were found nearby and her shirt was pulled up over her head.

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Her wrists had been tied behind her back and she was covered up by a piano cover.

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Sigrid's feet were bare and there were dirt and blood on the bottom of them.

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Sigrid was beaten so badly that she was unrecognizable.

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When her friends came to the police station to confirm her ID, they were only able to

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tell it was her by her hair.

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The attack was brutal and blood was sprayed across the sheet of music on the piano that

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she had been practicing.

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In the theater, police found Sigrid's wallet with her driver's license, $7 in cash, and

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some travelers checks.

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Police assume because she was found nude that she had been raped, but her autopsy will show

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that she was not.

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On Monday, September 5th, the Mercer County Medical Examiner, Dr. Abmed, determines that

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Sigrid was beaten to death with a blunt object and had died as a result of blood clots and

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a severe loss of blood.

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Sigrid had 15 deep scalp wounds which fractured her skull and face.

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Police are back on the college campus and searching Kendall Hall.

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They find Sigrid's backpack in a different part of the hall and inside was her journal.

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She had recently wrote about how she was out of practice and her fingers were stiff.

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Police begin to question the cast of JB, which was around 16 people.

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One member of the play mentioned to police that they had seen Sigrid playing the piano

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in Kendall Hall over the summer.

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He was surprised to see her since the building was always locked and the theater company

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had to find someone with a key to unlock it for them.

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I did read reports that there was a door on Kendall Hall that if you pulled with enough

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force would open even if it was locked.

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Police didn't notice any signs of forced entry at Kendall Hall.

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Tuesday, September 6th, police have no firm leads on who would kill Sigrid and beg the

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public to come forward with any information that they might have.

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Police refused to say what time they believe that she was killed.

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Personally, I think she was killed Sunday morning based off of her journal entry.

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Also since she was killed on stage next to the piano she was playing and she had plans

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to play in the morning, but again nothing is confirmed by police.

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Police also don't have the murder weapon, but they theorize that either the killer brought

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something in and carried it back out or that a 2x4 was used.

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A 2x4 was used to prop the piano that Sigrid was playing when she was attacked and it was

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missing after the murder.

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Police continue to question the cast.

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One member of the cast, Sidney Porcelain, was a well-known psychic in New Jersey.

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He had helped police on prior cases and offered to help here.

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Police initially looked at him as a person of interest, but after they were able to confirm

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the 24 hours after the play of his alibi they let him handle Sigrid's backpack in journal.

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When he handled the backpack he said quote,

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I suddenly know how she was killed.

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She was hit on both the right and left sides of her head, but more strongly on the right.

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When he handled the journal he said quote,

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I felt something was wrong with my fingers because my own fingers felt strange when I

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held the notebook.

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Sigrid did write that her fingers were stiff as mentioned earlier, but police say that

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Sidney did not open or read the journal at all.

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On Wednesday, September 7th, as more and more students returned to campus for the start

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of the school year, Sigrid's friends are questioned by police as well.

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One of her friends, Marie DePascal, said quote,

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I think she was too friendly for her own good.

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She would talk to anybody.

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The school urges students to walk with a friend at night and to lock their doors when they

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step out for a minute and when they're napping and sleeping.

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Police had ruled out robbery as a motive since all of her money and travelers' checks were

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in her wallet.

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Over the next several weeks, police turned to question the campus security, which consisted

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of 12 armed officers and 8 security guards.

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The Ewing Township police also had to turn in their billy clubs and handcuffs to the

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state police to search for evidence of blood or hair.

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Investigators are interested in campus security, as one of their biggest clues in this case

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was actually the piano cover that Sigrid was covered up by.

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The cover came from a $10,000 Mason & Hamlin grand piano that was kept in the concert room

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of Bray Hall, which is no longer on campus.

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It was demolished in 1999.

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Bray Hall was about 75 feet from Kendall Hall and was another locked building.

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Furthermore, the concert room where the grand piano was kept was also locked and had no

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windows since thousands of dollars of musical equipment was kept there.

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To get the cover from Bray Hall to Kendall Hall, you would need three keys.

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One for the concert room, one for Bray Hall, and then one for Kendall Hall.

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The supervisor of the graduate music program and the chair of the music department did

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not have all three keys.

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The janitors assigned to Bray and Kendall Hall did not have all three keys.

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Only campus security would have had all three keys.

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Now while there was rumor to be a door in Kendall Hall that if you pulled hard enough

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would come unlocked, everybody insists that there was no way to gain access to the concert

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room without keys.

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The head of the graduate music program, Stanley Austin, said, quote, Believe me, if there

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was a way anyone could have gotten access to the concert room and the grand piano, Sigrid

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would have found it, end quote.

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Someone in the music department swore that they had seen the cover on the grand piano

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just weeks before Sigrid's murder and there would have been no reason that it would have

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been moved before the murder took place.

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Someone in the music department swore that they had seen the cover on the grand piano

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just weeks before Sigrid's murder and there would be no reason that it would have been

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moved before the murder took place.

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One campus security guard is brought in for questioning since he had been friendly with

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Sigrid, but he is let go and no charges are filed.

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The next update I could really find on this case comes in 1979.

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It's been two years since the murder and police are no closer to solving it then than

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The Mercer County Assistant Prosecutor, Paul O'Gara says, quote, We have no individual

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suspects, only a large group of people who were on campus at that time.

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For that matter, it could have been somebody wandering through campus, end quote.

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And then after this, the case truly seems to go cold.

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The next article I could find on this comes from 2016.

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So that's 39 years after the murder.

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Students at the college have said that there is a ghost in Kendall Hall and that Sigrid

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is the spirit behind it.

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Students say they have heard footsteps when nobody is there, doors open and shut on their

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own.

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And one student claims that in the bathroom, she saw a paper towel float from one side

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of the room and into the trash can on the other side of the room.

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Another psychic visited the campus in 2016, but they wish to remain anonymous when they

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spoke to the newspaper.

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They told the local paper, quote, When she was on stage, this guy was watching her for

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a little while.

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Either her back was turned while she was on the piano, or she was too involved with her

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music to notice.

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I think he was in uniform and had curly hair.

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He had something on his pants, something like keys.

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She knew him but not well.

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He made in advance, but she fought back.

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He got angry, and when he got tough, she scratched and did something near his eye.

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That's when he got violent.

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He knew she was there that night.

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And this guy was sick, borderline stalker.

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There was a place on stage where he could hide and watch her.

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He made advances at her before, but she had ignored him, made small talk.

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But that night was different.

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After he killed her, he discarded his clothes in a dumpster behind a store.

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He didn't appear to be old, probably in his late 20s or 30s, so he'd be in his 50s or

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60s today.

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I think he has health problems and has moved far away."

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After this story runs in the newspaper, a woman writes in who is a freshman on campus

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the year Sigrid was murdered.

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She claims that no one on campus talked about it and it almost seemed forbidden by the administration.

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She laments the fact that there is no plaque or scholarship to remember Sigrid by.

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She says, quote, the fact that her murder has become a ghost story is further insult

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to this young woman's dignity.

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Not only was she brutally murdered, her killer was never found.

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And now her murder has been reduced to entertainment for college students.

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And that is really the last update that I could find on this case.

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So if you know anything about the murder of Sigrid Stevenson in September of 1977, please

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call the Mercer County Sheriff's Office at 609-989-6125.

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And the sources for the timeline today come from The Millville Daily, The Courier News,

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Courier Post, The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Peninsula Times Tribune, The Jersey Journal,

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The Record, Oakland Tribune, Daily News, and Ashbury Park Press.

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So that is the case of Sigrid Stevenson.

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I mean, I'm never expecting anything, I guess, when I am learning about a new case.

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But it certainly wasn't this.

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And my first reaction, honestly, is that it was just major echoes of the 70s and women's bodies,

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like lives, names, history experiences were just discarded in such a careless way.

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And there's so much of it at that time because it's, you think of, I mean, I think of the

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70s and I think of like a serial killer, like, I hate to call it this, but like era, the

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viciousness in the details.

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And then I'm not even going to say like lack of follow through, the failure of follow through.

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It's, I mean, one just like unacceptable that I'm so glad that you brought this case to

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us.

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I'm really sad that I didn't know about it until now.

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But yeah, my first reaction is like, I'm disgusted.

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I'm like amped up and super angry about this.

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Totally.

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And I don't know if you had this experience, but I know it's something that I had when

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I was researching it.

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It's like I knew a bunch of cigarettes in college.

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You know, I was, I studied theater and our theater building and the music department,

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like they all shared, you know, a building where all our classes were, where the theaters

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were.

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And I knew people who would sleep in the building to like get extra practice or to stay up late

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and work on something.

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I used to sleep in the theater green room.

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Like I bought a blanket and a pillow to keep down there because I would nap down there

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so often.

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And this to me was like, I know so many people like Sigrid and I myself like saw my myself

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kind of reflected in her of just like being so passionate about what you're studying and

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like eating, sleeping, breathing the piano.

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Like I don't play the piano, but that's how I felt about theater when I was in college.

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And it's disgusting to me to think of like that theater space where it is so vulnerable.

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Like, you know, like you're moving through your college years, you're practicing this

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vulnerability on stage and music, playing music can be a very vulnerable experience.

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And there she was probably playing barefoot the piano since she was found without her

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shoes on and she was attacked and like center stage.

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Like it's just, it's like almost theatrical in like how it all happened.

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And I just really deeply felt for Sigrid in this case.

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It was just so astonishing to me that this could happen.

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Yes.

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I, I, I hear you because I too, same thing, but like those little rooms and the, yeah,

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my second reaction was how dare you?

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Like you like ripped someone from their moment of like, what sounds like to me, like her

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vocation, like prayer to me.

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I might, yeah.

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My question is more directly for you is who do you think did it?

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And I know, you know, I know you believe that it was someone who knew her, knew the building,

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knew the space because that's the only way.

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And I know it was like Labor Day weekend, but that campus was empty.

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Someone had to know and I have some opinions, but.

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Yeah.

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I mean, to me it comes down to those three keys.

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Who had access to those three keys?

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Who would have access to all three of those keys to get the piano cover from the grand

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piano in a completely different building in a very secure locked tight room.

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I mean, even the graduate music director, he like kind of joked and said, if there was

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a way for somebody to get into the concert room and get access to the grand piano, Sigrid

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would have found it already.

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So the only way to get it was with a key.

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But also firefighters are very, very, very strong and like part of their job is to like

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break through into spaces.

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But there was no sign of forced entry anywhere.

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But did they actually look?

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I don't think that they looked.

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I really don't think they did because of, I mean, this is just my own like reaction,

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honestly, in speculation.

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I personally think that even if the police didn't look, the music department looked.

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Those who loved Sigrid looked.

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Yeah, you're right.

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And there was no sign of forced entry.

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The concert room was very secure because of the thousands of dollars.

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So they were very careful.

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Like there were no windows in that room.

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It was an interior room and it was always locked.

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And even, you know, the music department's heads, they only had keys to the music hall

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or sorry, they only had keys to the concert room and Bray Hall, but they wouldn't have

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keys to Kendall Hall.

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Now there is a rumor that there was a door that if you yanked hard enough, even if it

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was locked, you could get in.

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And so perhaps in theory, you only needed two keys, but whoever had access to those

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two keys would also need to know where that door is and know that it was a potentially

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a weak point.

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And again, like I couldn't find specifics on this door.

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It was just kind of a rumor talked about at the time that there was a door that with enough

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force could be opened even if it was locked.

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Okay.

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I mean, again, I'm not sure if I have this like phrased in a question, but I instantly

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was like renting a room from a professor or whatever.

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I was just like, that's odd.

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And like the misinformation, there was like maybe one or two, there were two professors

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or there was just one professor that she rented from.

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Yeah, so in 1977, the newspaper report said that she was renting a room from a professor,

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which I know you find strange.

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I don't find that strange because I was very close with a lot of my theater professors

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and I could see myself if I needed to in the summertime being like, Hey, can I rent a room

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from you?

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Like that makes sense to me in some aspects.

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Honestly, I think it depends on like, I hate that it plays a factor here, but like age

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and you know, partner status and if a person had kids or you know, like, I don't know anything

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about those individuals.

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So all what I immediately thought was like, the professor or not cool with kids or not.

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That's like a creepy old man thing to do.

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That's the first thing that I thought.

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I was like, that's creepy.

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And I think that's fair.

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But like, again, I could also have seen myself in college.

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Yeah, same for me.

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I mean, you know, I was very close with my advisor.

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I'm just saying like the possibility of it being like a skeevy thing is real.

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Yeah, but she was also staying there all summer and she had been like hitchhiking around.

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So she had been in and out.

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I'm not sure why she was locked out of a room that she was renting.

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That was the part that was strange to me.

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Like why couldn't she get back in?

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Later when I was researching this, not the reports from 1977, but other reports said

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that she might have been dating a firefighter, but I couldn't find anything from that time.

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And I wasn't sure if those were just like details that got tacked on as part of like

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the ghost story and the lore of her.

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But from the 1977 articles, I couldn't find that she was dating anybody, seeing anybody

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or staying with anybody besides this rented room from a professor.

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Okay.

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But again, for me, it just comes down to those three keys because somebody would have had

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to have the key for the concert room.

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So that's where I would start.

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If I was investigating it, I would start with whoever had those keys and work my way out

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from there.

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Yeah, the fact that this is not solved is, again, I mean, maybe I'm like this, it's

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unacceptable.

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How?

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Like how?

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Oh, man.

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And there were only around 50 people on campus when the murder took place.

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So to me, I'm like, that's kind of a small pool to start from.

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You know, the assistant prosecutor a few years later says like, everybody that was on campus

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is essentially a suspect.

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But then again, it could have been somebody just wandering through campus.

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Because it was the Labor Day weekend.

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I guess I don't know if that area was busy or not.

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But you know, a lot of people go in and out of town, essentially.

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So there is an opportunity for, you know, the, I guess, like trope of like the person

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passing through town, that guy passing through town or whatever.

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Right.

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And I tend to count that out because of this piano cover that came from another part of

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campus in a locked room.

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Like you would have to know that it was there to go get it.

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You know, if it's in an interior room with no windows, like.

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It also signals to me that it was personal.

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That person was like, some part of them, whether they felt bad or not, knew it was wrong.

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Knew that they not even wrong, but like, I'm not supposed to do this.

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Right.

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I mean, I'm sort of shame in it or whatever.

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But like, I guess I don't really need to like say more about the state of her.

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But to me, the details of it is, it sounded very personal.

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Yeah, it's brutal.

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It's brutal.

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Unhinged.

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Unhinged.

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That like, oh god.

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That poor, those, her parents, they.

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Yeah.

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And you know, her parents at this time are in California, so they are completely across

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the country while she's out here.

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They have both passed.

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Yes.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Like died without answers.

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I.

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It's heartbreak.

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It is heartbreaking, like in the wake of what happened, that it was almost like next to

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nothing.

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I'm really glad that you brought this to us.

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And you know, I kind of agree with the woman who wrote in one of the last things I said,

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that it is kind of a tragedy that Sigrid has been reduced to a ghost story.

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You know, I'm somebody, I love a good ghost story.

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I love.

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Like, I personally, I believe in ghosts.

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I believe that spirits can communicate with us after they've passed on.

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If energy can neither be created nor destroyed, that energy has to go somewhere.

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But in this case, I do think that it's very easy to say this is a ghost story and forget

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that Sigrid was a very real person who could be alive today, who should be alive today.

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Yeah.

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You know, 19 should be like happy in like her later years.

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Exactly.

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You know, it's to me, it's very heartbreaking that she's reduced to a ghost story when her

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case is talked about now, as opposed to a cold case that could still be solved.

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We see cases get solved years later.

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I mean, we saw it with the Betty Rolfe case, you know, years and years later, it can be

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solved.

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So like, this is still something that still can be solved.

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So I think there should be more respect to it.

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And I think you can acknowledge, you know, if there is spirit at Kendall Hall, like,

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I think it's okay to acknowledge that it could be Sigrid saying, look at my case, something

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happened to me.

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Help me.

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Help me.

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Yeah, like, please help me, someone.

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Like, I mean, instantly, I felt that reaction of just like, there is something you can,

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there is something we can do.

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Absolutely.

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And again, just like, it is a small suspect pool of 50 people, essentially, that were

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on campus and an even smaller pool when you start to get into who had keys and who could

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get them.

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Her name and like what she did, you know, the piano, like the uniqueness surrounding

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this like, again, to echo you, very real person.

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I felt, and like the smallness of the community, like, someone knows something.

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Oh, like, oh, Sigrid was blah, blah, blah.

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Like, someone knows something.

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And it could even be like, somebody who acted strangely after this happened, you know, somebody

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who got up, you know, quit their job unexpectedly and moved, you know, like those things that

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we kind of look for today that police kind of encourage whenever cases get cold, like

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to think back, did someone miss appointments?

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Did someone start acting strangely, change their facial hair, change their appearance,

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anything like that, which I think in today's age, we kind of know to look for.

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But in 1977, I don't think that was communicated as well.

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So like, well, no, and people also had the attitude of not that guy.

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There's no way.

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Oh, no, no, not him.

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I think this case is solvable.

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And you know, if I got to sit down and just open the case file, I would think that there

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were people that were of interest to the police.

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Like we know that a security guard was brought in for additional questioning because him

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and Sigrid had been friendly.

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We know that a couple of the cast members were brought in for additional questioning,

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but their alibis were all able to be confirmed.

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So I would be curious, why was the security guard let go?

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Were you able to confirm an alibi?

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Like, because that does seem to be where newspaper reports kind of point to, saying that only

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campus security would have had all three keys.

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But again, if you know anything about the murder of Sigrid Stevenson in September of

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1977, please call the Mercer County Police at 609-989-6125.

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And we will be posting pictures that we have of Sigrid up on our Instagram.

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review if you're an Apple podcast, it helps others find this podcast, find this case.

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And gets people involved and activated on these cases.

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So just by rating and reviewing, you are supporting the Missing and Murdered, which is the main

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purpose of this podcast is to get answers for missing and murdered people.

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But that's all I have.

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So thank you again for listening to Cold and Missing.

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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.

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I am your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And stay safe, y'all.

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Have a good week and stay safe, y'all.