1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,200 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing. 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,280 I'm your host, Ali. 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:45,240 And I'm flying solo again this week, as Eli's tied up in some work projects currently. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,800 So it'll just be me bringing you this podcast. 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,080 We're slowly creeping up on a year of Cold and Missing, which is kind of incredible just 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,240 from a personal standpoint of starting something and sticking to it. 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,600 I don't know if anybody else out there can relate, but I sometimes start projects and 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,480 I don't necessarily always finish them or follow through with them. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,040 So I'll save this speech maybe for our official year. 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,320 But it's really cool, the community that we're building through this podcast. 18 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,560 So again, thank you for being here. 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Thank you for joining us. 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,000 And let's just get into the case. 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,880 We're covering a cold case this week. 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,960 And today I have for you the cold case of Sarah Greenhalgh. 23 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:31,000 And this takes place in July of 2012 in Upperville, Virginia. 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,840 But first, a little bit about Sarah. 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Sarah is 48 years old in 2012. 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:43,200 She was born March 21, 1964, and she would be 59 years old today. 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Sarah lived in Upperville, Virginia, which is about an hour outside of Washington, D.C. 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,480 She rented a farm cottage on Dunvegan Drive, where she had lived for about a year by herself. 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Sarah worked as a reporter at the Winchester Star covering Frederick County government. 30 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Her managing editor, Maria Heilman, said she was a fair reporter. 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Quote, she really had a sort of effervescent personality. 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,100 When she came into the room, you knew Sarah was in the room. 33 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:13,800 She was very friendly and very lively. 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,800 End quote. 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Sarah was a risk taker, an adventurer, and a fiercely loyal friend. 36 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,000 She did not mince words and she would be very direct with you. 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,020 She was also an accomplished horseback rider, and she would often write for equestrian magazines 38 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:30,520 and photograph equine events. 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,160 The editor of The Chronicle of the Horse, Beth Raisin, said, quote, she was a super, 40 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,040 super nice, happy, upbeat, outgoing, friendly person. 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,080 She had a lot of friends and she was a very loyal friend. 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,480 I can't imagine anyone would have a bad word to say about her. 43 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,480 End quote. 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:55,040 Sarah had once posted a 25 Things About Herself to the Equierry, like the equine inquiry. 45 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,360 And this was published on June 16, 2009, so this would be about three years before her 46 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,360 murder. 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,840 And on the list of 25 things, I won't read all of them to you, but these are the ones 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,440 that popped out to me. 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,080 Number three, as a child, I wanted to be a herpetologist, which is the study of reptiles 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,560 and amphibians. 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Number five, I traveled unescorted to South Africa when I was 13 to visit a British childhood 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,280 friend. 53 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Number nine, I have crossed the Atlantic many times on ocean liners, not cruise ships, and 54 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,260 the North Atlantic is not fun. 55 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:30,600 Number 18, I tend to date danger junkies. 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Number 21, I once jumped a three foot high, four foot wide concrete water trough on a 57 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,680 horse bareback and at night and without a helmet. 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Number 22, I would rather travel alone than with family, friends, or boyfriends. 59 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,040 And number 25, as a journalist, I have had to cover some amazing and tragic events and 60 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,280 many haunt me to this day. 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,920 And now the timeline of events. 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:04:00,440 On Sunday, July 8, 2012, Sarah is in an upbeat mood in the morning while talking on the phone 63 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,440 with her sister. 64 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,960 Her sister, Kate Langton, said that Sarah was chatting away happily and didn't seem 65 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,700 to worry about anything. 66 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:13,080 In the evening hours, Sarah goes to visit her boyfriend, John Kearns, who lives in Gainesville, 67 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,320 which is about 30 minutes away from her home in Upperville. 68 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,080 At around 7.30 p.m., neighbors heard Sarah and John yelling and swearing at each other. 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,240 According to John, Sarah and him were just platonic friends and he wanted Sarah to leave 70 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,000 since his other girlfriend was going to come over and Sarah would get him into trouble. 71 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,720 Sarah will leave and return home. 72 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,340 When she gets home, she'll fire off an email to John at around 9.48 p.m. 73 00:04:37,340 --> 00:04:41,720 In it, she'll say that she'd always been there for him and listened to his problems. 74 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,040 And based off of everything that John had told Sarah, she feared she could, quote, go 75 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:52,400 away for 25 to life as an accessory, end quote, due to knowledge of John's wrongdoings. 76 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,320 At around 11 p.m. that night, Sarah posted a Facebook update that said, quote, going 77 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,180 to be sleeping with the windows wide open and an emoticon smiley face. 78 00:05:02,180 --> 00:05:06,800 Now if that batshit crazy boy would just leave me alone, we'll get some much needed rest 79 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,520 because tomorrow is Monday and I got a ton of work to do, end quote. 80 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Sarah's friends, family and coworkers all knew that batshit crazy boy was John Kearns, 81 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,280 a nickname she used for him often. 82 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:27,800 On Monday, July 9th, 2012, at around 8.08 a.m., an off-duty Fairfax firefighter sees smoke 83 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,360 rising while driving down the John Mosey Highway. 84 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,760 At 8.10, the call is dispatched, but Upperville only had a volunteer fire department and no 85 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,520 one was on duty at the time. 86 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:44,400 The first truck to respond is the Middleburg Volunteer Fire Department at 8.22 a.m., followed 87 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,800 by the Marshall Fire Company at 8.34 a.m. 88 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Firefighters find smoke pouring from the home and one room set ablaze. 89 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,560 They're able to extinguish the fire in about 20 minutes. 90 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,720 Since the home was built out of cinder blocks, it was still standing after the fire was extinguished. 91 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Once the fires put out, they find a woman's body in the back bedroom. 92 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Her body had been covered with debris from the torso upwards, so her head was also covered. 93 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Police are called and the scene is quickly ruled a homicide. 94 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Investigators found 12 used bullet casings in the home, with at least one being found 95 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,680 underneath Sarah. 96 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,320 The handgun was also found next to her. 97 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,880 Ultimately, Sarah was killed by a gunshot wound in the neck. 98 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,040 She did not die because of the fire. 99 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,980 Fire investigators will determine that a pore pattern was found, meaning someone poured 100 00:06:32,980 --> 00:06:36,160 something flammable to start or accelerate the fire. 101 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,960 According to Sarah's landlord, Anne MacLand, investigators found Sarah's cell phone and 102 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,640 her laptop in her car, almost as if she was getting ready to leave for work. 103 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,780 So the next day, Tuesday, July 10, 2012, police announced to the public that they are conducting 104 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:55,260 a homicide investigation and six detectives are assigned to the case. 105 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:59,480 Police are also spending time going through articles that Sarah had recently published, 106 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,840 as well as stories she was working on for the Winchester Star. 107 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:07,840 Sarah also had been meeting men through an online dating site, specifically Match.com, 108 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:12,280 so police also probed this area of her life for possible suspects. 109 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,060 Police are also seen at her home, flagging down people driving by and asking if they 110 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:20,700 had seen anything unusual in the area lately. 111 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:26,160 The Fauquier County police will also ask for assistance from the state police and the FBI, 112 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,200 both of whom will join the investigation that day. 113 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:35,040 Police also obtain a search warrant for John Kearn's apartment, and from that, police sees 114 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,520 a cell phone, shredder waist, and a t-shirt. 115 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:44,440 John, after the fact, says that he also submitted a DNA sample and underwent gunshot residue 116 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,860 tests and took three polygraph tests shortly after the killing. 117 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:53,980 Police tell John that he failed the polygraph tests, but they never show him the results. 118 00:07:53,980 --> 00:07:59,600 On Thursday, July 19, 2012, so this is 10 days since Sarah's murder, police arrest 119 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,480 John Kearns on a probation violation. 120 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,160 John was serving probation at this time for getting into a fight with a motorcyclist. 121 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,240 John had pulled the guy off of his bike and beat him up. 122 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Because of this, a term of his probation was to attend counseling appointments. 123 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,760 John couldn't show proof that he had been attending, so they violated him and arrested 124 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,760 him. 125 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,680 The next day, Friday, July 20, so this is now 11 days since Sarah's murder, Sarah's 126 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,960 memorial is held and over 300 people are in attendance. 127 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,960 At her memorial service, Sarah's sister, Kate, asks that Sarah's fellow reporters 128 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,600 keep on the case and keep it in the media. 129 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,820 A lot of reporters in the room felt personally called to remain covering the case. 130 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:45,520 Police at the time are talking to several persons of interest, one of whom we know is 131 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,840 John and the other is John's other girlfriend, Joanne. 132 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Joanne was dating John at the same time that Sarah believed that she was also dating John. 133 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,320 John's 2012 Jeep was actually in Joanne's name. 134 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,440 She had bought it since he had terrible credit. 135 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,760 To date, police have not ID'd any other person of interest in this case. 136 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,900 Police are very specific though in that they are not calling John or Joanne a suspect and 137 00:09:13,900 --> 00:09:16,800 are waiting on more forensic results. 138 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Now this case really felt like it had a lot of steam in the beginning and they had six 139 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,920 detectives assigned to it. 140 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,700 The county police, the state police, the FBI, everybody was jumping in to work on this case, 141 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:33,800 so it really felt like it had steam in the beginning and it was moving quickly, but then 142 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,640 the case goes really cold. 143 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:41,580 There's some newspaper reports covering it, but there's no new information released. 144 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:48,280 So on December 12, 2014, that's just about two and a half years since Sarah's murder, 145 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,920 police obtain a search warrant for John Kearns and in the search warrant he is named as a 146 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,540 suspect. 147 00:09:54,540 --> 00:09:58,000 Police get the warrant to get another copy of John's fingerprints. 148 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,240 He had already been fingerprinted prior, but this specifically was asking for the tip of 149 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,020 his fingerprints. 150 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:07,580 John claims his innocence at this time. 151 00:10:07,580 --> 00:10:13,340 And then again, no real big updates from police, no arrests are made, the next big update comes 152 00:10:13,340 --> 00:10:16,940 from June 29 of 2017. 153 00:10:16,940 --> 00:10:19,340 John continues to claim his innocence. 154 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:23,560 He says he met Sarah in the summer of 2011 on Match.com. 155 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:28,740 John says quote, right from the first week or two we knew it was just going to be a friendship. 156 00:10:28,740 --> 00:10:30,460 We had goofy fun times. 157 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:31,780 We just had fun. 158 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:32,780 End quote. 159 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:36,980 John tells the Winchester Star, that's the newspaper that Sarah had worked for at the 160 00:10:36,980 --> 00:10:38,580 time of her murder. 161 00:10:38,580 --> 00:10:43,020 He tells the newspaper his side of events from June 8 until June 9. 162 00:10:43,020 --> 00:10:47,500 John says that he told Sarah to not come to his apartment because Joanne was supposed to 163 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:50,660 stop by and Sarah's presence would get him into trouble. 164 00:10:50,660 --> 00:10:54,940 Joanne never actually ends up coming by that evening according to John. 165 00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:59,140 John says that Sarah called him an asshole and left, that there was never a fight and 166 00:10:59,140 --> 00:11:01,380 the neighbors blew it out of proportion. 167 00:11:01,380 --> 00:11:04,860 John claims he stayed inside the rest of the evening. 168 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:08,440 He wasn't friendly with any of his neighbors so none of them could vouch for him. 169 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,420 He says quote, I kept to myself. 170 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:14,620 Nobody really knew me and I didn't know anybody else. 171 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:18,300 So nobody knew whether I was there or whether I really wasn't. 172 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:19,300 End quote. 173 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:22,900 The next morning John says he arrived at work at 8.02. 174 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:26,860 He remembered it because he looked at the dash and thought he was two minutes late to 175 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:27,860 work. 176 00:11:27,860 --> 00:11:32,820 He also claims that he was on the phone with Joanne the whole time he was driving to work. 177 00:11:32,820 --> 00:11:36,860 And he says his cell phone should be able to vouch for this. 178 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:40,380 John's work was about 30 miles away from Sarah's home. 179 00:11:40,380 --> 00:11:44,940 Police at this time wouldn't comment on John's claim that he was driving to work when the 180 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:46,660 cottage was set ablaze. 181 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:51,780 However, speaking hypothetically, police said it was possible for someone to have driven 182 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:57,740 from Gainesville to Upperville, commit the murder, set the fire, and drive to Leesburg, 183 00:11:57,740 --> 00:12:00,060 where John worked, by 8 a.m. 184 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:04,300 They noted Sarah's cinderblock cottage, which was still standing after the fire, took a 185 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:05,860 long time to burn. 186 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:10,820 The Fauquier County Sheriff's spokesperson, Sergeant James Hartman, says quote, it could 187 00:12:10,820 --> 00:12:13,220 have started several hours before. 188 00:12:13,220 --> 00:12:14,220 End quote. 189 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:19,420 And then that's really the last big update we get with new information, this kind of 190 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:21,220 interview from John. 191 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:26,820 Everything else year over year just recaps the information that I just laid out. 192 00:12:26,820 --> 00:12:30,140 To date, police have never made an arrest in Sarah's case. 193 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:35,420 Again, spokesman Sergeant James Hartman says quote, the last thing anybody here wants to 194 00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:37,660 do is put an innocent person in jail. 195 00:12:37,660 --> 00:12:42,620 We're here to investigate a homicide, not save or ruin people's reputations. 196 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:43,620 End quote. 197 00:12:43,620 --> 00:12:50,860 So with that, if you know anything about the murder of Sarah Greenhall in July of 2012, 198 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:58,660 please call the Fauquier County Sheriff's Office at 504-422-8650. 199 00:12:58,660 --> 00:13:03,180 And the sources for the timeline today come from the Winchester Star, again, that's the 200 00:13:03,180 --> 00:13:08,220 newspaper that Sarah worked for and they have covered the story very extensively, the Richmond 201 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:15,460 Times-Dispatch, the Daily Press, the Daily News Leader, WJLA, Piedmont Media, Inside Nova, 202 00:13:15,460 --> 00:13:21,820 Fauquier Times, London Times, Northern Virginia Daily, The Washington Post, The Equierry, and 203 00:13:21,820 --> 00:13:24,180 Prince William Times. 204 00:13:24,180 --> 00:13:29,040 So that is the cold case of Sarah Greenhalgh. 205 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,140 And when I first saw this case and saw that she was a reporter, I'll admit that my first 206 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:38,500 thought was, well, was she working on something? 207 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:43,300 Almost like the Hollywood plot line of it all of, was she working on something? 208 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:45,740 Did she uncover something? 209 00:13:45,740 --> 00:13:48,340 You know, some big corruption story in the government. 210 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:53,060 But according to police and according to her editors, from everything that I could find, 211 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:58,540 there wasn't anything that she had recently published or that she was working on to support 212 00:13:58,540 --> 00:13:59,660 that theory at all. 213 00:13:59,660 --> 00:14:04,860 And police did come and speak to her coworkers, they went through her desk at the newspaper. 214 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:12,080 So I think that road of investigation has been thoroughly investigated and it is not 215 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,780 tied to her work as a reporter. 216 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:19,700 But it's sad when you're researching her because you find so many articles by her. 217 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:25,220 I mean, they just pop up as you're searching newspaper archives because she was a reporter. 218 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:30,040 So it's very haunting in a way whenever you research this case. 219 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,660 I also think it's very easy to look at John in this case. 220 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:39,820 And you know, there is a lot of evidence against him, you know, that the police lay out in 221 00:14:39,820 --> 00:14:44,100 their search warrant of, you know, why they wanted to go into his home originally. 222 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:48,660 Just the email correspondences, the neighbors saying they were fighting, like, totally, 223 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:51,260 that's a place that they absolutely should look. 224 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:58,040 But my question is now is, well, if it isn't John, why hasn't he been publicly cleared 225 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 or why hasn't he been arrested? 226 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:04,420 It feels like at this point, one of those two things should have happened. 227 00:15:04,420 --> 00:15:10,420 You know, they did that second search warrant in 2014 where they were looking specifically 228 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:15,820 at the tips of his fingerprints, which I don't think it's far off to assume that that means 229 00:15:15,820 --> 00:15:20,180 that they have fingerprint evidence at the scene, specifically the tips of somebody's 230 00:15:20,180 --> 00:15:21,780 fingerprints. 231 00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:26,820 It was a fire scene, so a lot of physical evidence can get destroyed in that, but not 232 00:15:26,820 --> 00:15:27,980 all of it. 233 00:15:27,980 --> 00:15:34,380 So the fact that they do seem to have a fingerprint or at least a partial print is really promising. 234 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:38,580 And I just wonder, was John a match at all? 235 00:15:38,580 --> 00:15:42,700 Could he, was it one of those things where it's like they couldn't 100% say that this 236 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:46,480 is his fingerprint, but they also couldn't rule him out and say that there's no way this 237 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,480 is his fingerprint? 238 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,740 Like, is it that kind of situation? 239 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:54,220 You know, just like if I, if I was able to sit down with the police today and just ask 240 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:57,460 them anything I wanted, I think that's like where I would start is like, what are you 241 00:15:57,460 --> 00:16:00,660 missing if you can't arrest him? 242 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:06,060 Like what's the piece that you need to be able to like bring charges forward or to let 243 00:16:06,060 --> 00:16:07,540 this man go free? 244 00:16:07,540 --> 00:16:14,020 Because you know, it's a long time to have your name be tied to a murder case. 245 00:16:14,020 --> 00:16:19,980 And you know, just reading in the 2017 article, John talked about, you know, how this has 246 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:25,260 ruined his name and a lot of his relationships in his life and how he's just trying to get 247 00:16:25,260 --> 00:16:28,720 his life on track and just have a normal life. 248 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,660 And I think the quote by the police at the end is actually like really honorable. 249 00:16:32,660 --> 00:16:35,140 It's like they don't want to put an innocent person in jail. 250 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:40,140 So if John didn't do this, then I do think the police need to come out and say that because 251 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:44,060 it's really hard not to just focus on him whenever you look at the evidence, because 252 00:16:44,060 --> 00:16:49,500 that's all that's really been presented is, you know, this boyfriend, ex boyfriend, platonic 253 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:53,940 friends like that relationships really seems to be murky on both ends. 254 00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:59,100 I'm saying it's platonic, but Sarah felt like it was more. 255 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:04,220 So it's very easy to, you know, kind of like tunnel vision right down there. 256 00:17:04,220 --> 00:17:08,660 Another thing if I was able to like sit down with police and just ask them any questions 257 00:17:08,660 --> 00:17:13,300 I would want is I would be really curious to know the time of death. 258 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:17,980 Like when do they think that the actual act took place? 259 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:21,780 Because we know that she's alive at around 11pm. 260 00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:27,180 You know, she posts to her Facebook and by all accounts, everyone seems to believe that 261 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:28,540 that is her posting. 262 00:17:28,540 --> 00:17:29,820 You know, it's her writing. 263 00:17:29,820 --> 00:17:31,240 It sounds like her. 264 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,420 There's no whispering about could she have posted, could she have not like from everything 265 00:17:35,420 --> 00:17:36,420 I've seen. 266 00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:39,040 Everyone is very certain that she did post that at 11pm. 267 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,640 So we know that's when she's lost alive. 268 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,020 But then the landlord says that her laptop and her cell phone were found in her car almost 269 00:17:47,020 --> 00:17:49,020 as if she was leaving for work. 270 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:52,140 And I'm thinking 2012. 271 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,700 Most people at that point probably just have a laptop. 272 00:17:55,700 --> 00:18:00,540 I mean, maybe they have a home computer and a laptop, but I would think that she made 273 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:04,180 that post from her laptop that was found in the car. 274 00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:05,960 But maybe that's a question I would ask police. 275 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,380 Was there another computer where she could have posted or was that her only computer? 276 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:15,660 Because if that's the case, I don't see why she would post something at 11pm, go put her 277 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:18,920 laptop and her cell phone in the car and then come back in and go to sleep. 278 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,960 That doesn't make sense. 279 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,340 To me, it makes sense that she was getting ready for work, took her things out, somebody 280 00:18:24,340 --> 00:18:25,440 interrupts it. 281 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:31,020 I would just be really curious as to what the police theory of how everything happened. 282 00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:32,820 What was she caught in the middle? 283 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,780 Was she asleep when this possibly could? 284 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:37,940 You know, what what do they think happened? 285 00:18:37,940 --> 00:18:41,340 Sarah just seems like such a wonderful person. 286 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:45,460 And I, you know, it just she just sounded like somebody that I would really want to 287 00:18:45,460 --> 00:18:46,460 be friends with. 288 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:47,460 I love horses. 289 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:48,460 I love horseback riding. 290 00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:49,460 I love learning about it. 291 00:18:49,460 --> 00:18:53,780 I don't know much about equestrian sports or equine. 292 00:18:53,780 --> 00:18:58,180 I know some basics, but you know, I always love learning more about that. 293 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:02,860 And you know, she was a reporter, a photographer. 294 00:19:02,860 --> 00:19:06,420 Somebody said, you know, not only could she give you a great story, she'd give you great 295 00:19:06,420 --> 00:19:07,420 pictures with it. 296 00:19:07,420 --> 00:19:12,460 So it seems like she was just so talented at telling stories about telling people stories, 297 00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:14,460 her community stories. 298 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:19,580 This breaks my heart that so many of her colleagues whom you know, she loved and who loved her 299 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:23,020 had to really dig into this and cover this. 300 00:19:23,020 --> 00:19:27,780 But again, I know for a lot of them, they felt like it was a personal call. 301 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:32,620 And you know, they felt a responsibility to her as a fellow reporter to keep her name 302 00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:34,580 out there to keep it in the media. 303 00:19:34,580 --> 00:19:38,140 And I will say there has been a lot of media coverage on this case. 304 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:42,100 I don't always see that happen in all of the cases we cover. 305 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:48,660 But with Sarah's her local media really rallied around her, which I think is really beautiful. 306 00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:54,500 But again, if you know anything about the murder of Sarah Greenhalgh in July of 2012, 307 00:19:54,500 --> 00:20:02,860 please call the Fauquier County Sheriff's Office at 504-422-8650. 308 00:20:02,860 --> 00:20:07,460 And just like every week, we're going to be posting pictures of Sarah on our Instagram. 309 00:20:07,460 --> 00:20:11,620 So you can follow us there if you're not already at Cold and Missing. 310 00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:12,940 You can find us on our website. 311 00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:14,540 We also have pictures there. 312 00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:15,540 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