1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,360 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases. 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Hello everyone and welcome back. 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Welcome back everyone. 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,120 And welcome back to me. 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Yeah, you were feeling a little sick last week. 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Yeah, I'm happy to be here and serve the podcast once again. 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,000 We're glad to have you back. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,240 I missed you. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,040 I miss you whenever we're apart, honestly. 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,680 But I was just in the room over. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Yes. 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Alright, episode 45? 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,880 Episode 45. 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Alright, I believe this is a missing case, so I'm looking forward to get that name out 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,080 there and learning about this person. 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,400 Yeah, let's just get into it, huh? 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,400 Sounds good. 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,400 Today I have for you the missing person case of Jason Jolkowski. 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,080 And this takes place in June of 2001 in Omaha, Nebraska. 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,960 But first, a little bit about Jason. 27 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,560 Jason is 19 years old in 2001. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:38,800 He was born June 24, 1981, and he would have turned 42 years old this past weekend at the 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,200 time of recording. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:47,400 In 2001, Jason is 6'1", 160 pounds, and has brown hair and brown eyes. 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,960 He lived with his parents and younger brother in Omaha, Nebraska, and was working to save 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,720 up money to return to Iowa Western College, where he had been studying to become a radio 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,720 DJ. 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:04,040 He had gotten a job at the local college radio station, 89.7 FM, the River, where he went 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,240 by JJ on the air. 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,960 Jason has above average intelligence. 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,880 He had a knack for recalling baseball stats at the drop of a hat. 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,960 But he often had trouble with his interpersonal communication skills, according to his family. 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Jason was heavily involved in his parish at the Holy Name Catholic Church. 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,840 The Sunday before he went missing, he read during the Sunday service. 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:34,120 He read Proverbs 8: 22-31, and Romans 5: 1-5. 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,840 He would often spend his free time at church praying as part of the parish's continuous 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,560 prayer program. 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Everyone described Jason as a shy, quiet young man who would keep to himself, but would also 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,800 go out of his way to help someone. 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,100 And now the timeline of events. 47 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:55,680 On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, the night before Jason disappears, he spends it with his family 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,200 and family friends. 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,220 His mother, Kelly Murphy, recalls that they had played a game where the goal was trying 50 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:03,200 to make others laugh. 51 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Jason would always laugh first. 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Everything was good and he was in high spirits. 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:16,040 The next day, Wednesday, June 13, 2001, Jason, at this time, worked at Fazoli's restaurant 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,160 but had recently gotten a new job that he was going to start in the next week that he 55 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,960 was very excited for. 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,380 His new job paid more and had a tuition program, which would help him get back to college faster. 57 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:33,920 He was scheduled to work at Fazoli's at 5.30 p.m., but Jason was called at 10.30 a.m. 58 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,000 and asked if he could come in early. 59 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Jason's car was in the body shop getting worked on, so he said he would have to walk 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,880 the four miles to get there. 61 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Jason's mom, Kelly, said that it would have been normal for Jason to take the long walk 62 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,440 since his car was out of commission. 63 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,600 Jason hops in the shower and starts to get ready for work. 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Before he leaves, his phone rings again and it's Jason's co-worker, Teresa Redd. 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,600 She says that she'll pick him up and drive him to work. 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Jason asks that Teresa pick him up from Benson High School. 67 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Teresa recalls the conversation going as follows. 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Jason says, quote, OK, just meet me at Benson. 69 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,200 And Teresa replies, OK, you better be there, end quote. 70 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 They agreed to meet at 11 o'clock. 71 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,760 According to Jason's family, he struggled with giving directions, so he picked the high 72 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,360 school, which was eight blocks away from his home, and both him and his co-worker, Teresa, 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,960 had graduated from there. 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:33,280 At 10.45 a.m., Jason's 13-year-old brother heard a noise outside and saw Jason pulling 75 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:35,760 the trash cans up from the curb. 76 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,280 A neighbor, Chester Link, also sees Jason pulling the garbage cans up. 77 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:45,880 Jason is wearing Blackwork slacks and his Blackwork shoes and is wearing a white Chicago 78 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Cubs t-shirt and wearing a Chicago Cubs baseball hat. 79 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,240 He is carrying his red Fasoli's work shirt. 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,640 Jason was last seen heading towards Benson High School. 81 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Teresa arrives at the high school and waits for Jason. 82 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,680 She waits about 30 minutes before returning Fazoli's. 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,120 When she arrives, she calls Jason's house back to ask why he didn't show up. 84 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Michael, Jason's younger brother, picks up the phone and it's discovered here that 85 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,280 Jason is missing. 86 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:18,440 Fazoli continues to call a few times throughout the day looking for Jason, but he also fails 87 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,240 to show up for his 5.30 p.m. shift. 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,280 When Jason's parents return home from work that day, that's when they are made aware 89 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:26,720 that Jason is missing. 90 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Jason's parents, Kelly and Jim, believe that they had to wait 24 hours before they reported 91 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:32,960 him missing. 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,480 Investigators are later able to get the surveillance footage from the high school which showed 93 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,600 that Jason never arrived there. 94 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,120 So the next day, Thursday, June 14th, Jason's family reports him missing the next morning. 95 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,040 Police write Jason off as a runaway and also, since he is technically an adult, he has the 96 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,200 right to be missing. 97 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,540 Jason's mom, Kelly, says, quote, And then it took at least another 10 days before the 98 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:58,560 police took Jason's disappearance seriously. 99 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,080 They assumed this was a typical teen runaway scenario, end quote. 100 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,700 So 10 days truly do pass without any movement on Jason's case by police. 101 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:14,280 So on Saturday, June 23rd, 2001, this is 10 days since Jason has been missing, police 102 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,760 began canvassing the neighborhood where Jason was last seen. 103 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,080 His mom, Kelly, says, quote, It's like he disappeared off of the face of the earth, 104 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,080 end quote. 105 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,960 The family believe firmly that Jason did not run away. 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,080 When he left his home, he had no more than $60 on him. 107 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,240 If he wanted to run away, they believe he would have waited for his car to get out of 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,240 the shop. 109 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,840 He would have picked up his last paycheck and he wouldn't have worn his work pants 110 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,040 and work shoes. 111 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Nothing besides the clothes he left with was missing from his room. 112 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,120 Investigators say that there had been no cell phone activity or bank activities since Jason 113 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,300 disappeared. 114 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:54,400 On Sunday, June 24th, this is 11 days, Jason's 20th birthday comes and goes. 115 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,600 His family hopes that he'll walk through the door at any moment and this nightmare 116 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,820 will be over. 117 00:06:59,820 --> 00:07:05,920 On Monday, June 25th, so this is now 12 days, police investigate Mahoney State Park. 118 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,280 It's about 20 miles west of Omaha near the Platte River. 119 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:15,240 A witness called in and said she saw a man matching Jason's description at the park. 120 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,920 When police arrive, the witness is given a photo of Jason to look at and she becomes 121 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 unsure if the man she saw was him. 122 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Police continue to search the park for several hours but find no sign of Jason. 123 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,360 On Tuesday, July 3rd, 2001, this is 3 weeks now, a reward fund is started by Jason's 124 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,120 parents' employers for any information that will lead to him. 125 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,280 His family hopes that with offering money that the tips will start to come in. 126 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:48,200 On Friday, July 13th, 2001, so this is one month since Jason's disappearance, in that 127 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,920 time he did not reach out to the auto shop that was repairing his car. 128 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,480 His parents will eventually retrieve the car from the shop and there is still no cell phone 129 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,080 activity or bank activity. 130 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:06,600 And as of 2023, there has never been any cell phone or bank activity in regards to Jason. 131 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,380 Family also do not believe that he would harm himself. 132 00:08:09,380 --> 00:08:13,480 The family believe that his strong faith would have gone against this and he was excited 133 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,940 about his life. 134 00:08:14,940 --> 00:08:18,960 He had a new job that he was looking forward to and his parents say that he was turning 135 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,320 his situation around financially. 136 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,680 He was very hopeful. 137 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,740 Police say they have no leads in the case. 138 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:31,400 On Sunday, July 22nd, 2001, Jason's family hold a prayer service at their home church. 139 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:37,400 His mom Kelly says, quote, we feel someone somewhere knows something about where he is. 140 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,340 We have to find that someone who may have seen something, end quote. 141 00:08:41,340 --> 00:08:46,460 And then the next big update we got is June 13th, 2002. 142 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:49,600 So that's a year that Jason has been missing. 143 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,640 But police still say they have no leads and no suspects at the one year mark. 144 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,980 Jason's mom Kelly says, quote, I think we'll always continue to have hope. 145 00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:03,680 We have to hope and we will continue to have hope until we know what has occurred, end 146 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:04,680 quote. 147 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:10,560 And then each year at the anniversary, the local media will run stories about Jason's 148 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:13,520 disappearance, but there's never any movement on the case. 149 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,000 There's never any big updates or new information revealed. 150 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,520 In October of 2003, Jason's parents start Project Jason and Project Jason's mission 151 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,760 was to help families of missing individuals. 152 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,720 And they also aimed to pass out free ID kits for Omaha's children. 153 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,640 They will run Project Jason until 2018. 154 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,080 But really, those are the last updates in regards to Jason. 155 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,400 There's lots of stories about his family and how they've continued to cope with the grief 156 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,160 of this loss. 157 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,720 But like I mentioned before, there's no updates in those stories. 158 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,340 In 2021, police say that the case is still open, but there are no leads and there are 159 00:09:58,340 --> 00:09:59,340 no suspects. 160 00:09:59,340 --> 00:10:03,680 To date, police have never said if they have been able to collect any evidence in this 161 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:04,980 case. 162 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:11,400 So with that, if you know anything about the disappearance of Jason Jolkowski or his whereabouts 163 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:23,220 today, please call the Omaha police at 402-444-5657 or you can contact Detective Jim Reising directly 164 00:10:23,220 --> 00:10:29,100 at 402-444-4127. 165 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:35,320 And the sources for the timeline today come from Omaha World Herald, the Des Moines Register, 166 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Lincoln Journal Star, Fremont Tribune, KETV, W-O-W-T News, The Catholic Voice, and CNN.com. 167 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,720 So that is the case of Jason Jolkowski. 168 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Yeah, it's so odd to me that it just kind of seems like it's a case that just disappeared 169 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,400 like him, but there's just nothing. 170 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Like he vanished. 171 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:12,800 It's pretty odd for the date and time and his size. 172 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Yeah, and the middle of the day. 173 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Yeah. 174 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:28,640 But also, you know, sometimes perfect circumstances offer up like a camouflage like that or something, 175 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:35,240 sadly, like sinister to go down or like a crime. 176 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:42,680 I'm hoping that it's a case of left and didn't want to be found, as sad as that is, but like, 177 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:49,360 I guess that's best case scenario right now and that eventually his family finds out where 178 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,360 he is. 179 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Yeah. 180 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Yeah, it's confusing. 181 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,120 I don't really understand what happened. 182 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:03,760 I couldn't remember if you said was that coworker interviewed more or that interaction? 183 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,760 I don't know. 184 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:10,200 It seems like that would be like where there would be more information, I guess. 185 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,920 And that's not to say that I'm pointing a finger. 186 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,800 It's just, it seems like maybe you are one of the last people to speak to him. 187 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,640 I guess that's all that I'm saying. 188 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Yeah. 189 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,640 His coworker, Teresa. 190 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,080 Teresa, yes. 191 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:31,820 I believe she was interviewed and we get a little bit of a report from her and newspaper 192 00:12:31,820 --> 00:12:34,880 accounts as to like what happens. 193 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,240 If you research the story on your own, one thing that I did come across a couple of times, 194 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:44,880 but I just couldn't find any other media reports to substantiate it, but something I came across 195 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:51,160 like in true crime blogs, that there's a possibility that his coworker who was going to pick him 196 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:57,200 up from the high school and take him into work, that instead of returning to work, she 197 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,800 went to a gas station first to call his house and say, where are you? 198 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,340 I've been waiting. 199 00:13:02,340 --> 00:13:10,200 And that call would have happened between 11:15 and 11:45. 200 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,360 And Jason left his house at 10:45. 201 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,400 So somewhere within that hour is where that conversation could have possibly happened. 202 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,860 But from everything I read and was able to find in the media reports, she goes back to 203 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:27,700 Fazoli's and calls from there to be like, why didn't you show up? 204 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:29,840 And that's when she gets his younger brother. 205 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,800 And they kind of realized that he's missing. 206 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,200 But I don't know if they kind of write it off as like, well, maybe he did decide to 207 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,200 walk. 208 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Maybe he's coming in at his scheduled time at 530. 209 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,840 But his parents don't seem to be informed that Jason is missing until they get home 210 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,840 from work. 211 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Yeah. 212 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,200 I mean, just like he just walked away. 213 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,040 It's just kind of what it seems like. 214 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Yeah. 215 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,120 And police, you know, didn't jump into this case. 216 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,120 What does that mean? 217 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,120 They didn't jump into the case? 218 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,280 You know, he was reported missing the next morning. 219 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,800 And it took them about 10 days before they started to really look at his case and treat 220 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,080 it as a disappearance. 221 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,520 They thought he was over 18. 222 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Yeah, because he was 19. 223 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,880 And they figured he was like a teen runaway. 224 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,880 That's bananas. 225 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,000 That's bananas, you guys. 226 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:29,240 There's something I haven't understood about like, the law to like, just quickly make that 227 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:36,440 call or why it's one that we gravitate to when I can't say, you know, for certain, if 228 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,720 there's a statistic out there that someone is accumulated. 229 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,480 But it seems like statistically, that's the wrong call. 230 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,440 It seems like maybe listen to the people who know them. 231 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,120 What feels like the people closest to the person, you know, missing or whatever are 232 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,320 usually the people who are immediately under suspicion. 233 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,120 And I am to a degree, I understand that. 234 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,520 But I feel like if intuitively, if you're doing your job correctly, or serving the job's 235 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,900 true purpose, then like, you judge based on feeling, which is how they make their very 236 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:15,440 first judgment call of, oh, I was supposed to run away. 237 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,000 I have a feeling. 238 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,400 So it's like, okay, well, if you can make a call based on that feeling, maybe make it 239 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,400 off of this feeling. 240 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,400 You know? 241 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,400 Right. 242 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:31,760 It's just like, I call BS on, I call BS on like rash decision making like that, especially 243 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,120 in the first, like dig deeper. 244 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,440 You know, ask more questions. 245 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Ask more questions. 246 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,840 If there's not an answer, if you haven't scraped the bottom of the barrel, then you keep going 247 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,960 when someone isn't there. 248 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,960 Right. 249 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,840 So I learned from everything that I read about Jason, he loved his family. 250 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,280 He loved hanging out with his family. 251 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,680 He would be on the phone with friends and be like, hang on, I have to go tuck my little 252 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,680 brother in. 253 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Like, he loved his family. 254 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Yeah, like listening to you talk about him, I was like, oh, he kind of sounds like me. 255 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,880 I'm like, this dude, like loves his car. 256 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Like, and when you know, he's someone who's doing well, he like feels good about that 257 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,760 and like wants to stay on that trajectory. 258 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Probably wouldn't run away in the middle of like succeeding. 259 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,600 You know, he's 19, he's getting older. 260 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,960 He like needed a win. 261 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,000 He was like, he was in a winning season. 262 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Totally. 263 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,440 And the people around him knew that. 264 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,560 So to say like, oh, probably run away. 265 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,480 It's like, no, you know, he wasn't, didn't display any, anything like with like, you 266 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,960 know, drinking or drugs where, where sometimes like random behavior like that would make 267 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,960 sense. 268 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,240 There's no evidence of that. 269 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Right. 270 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Or at least to our knowledge, something smells off. 271 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,440 Yeah. 272 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,840 And his parents feel firmly that if he was running away, like just at the basics, he 273 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,520 would not have worn his like work clothes to run away. 274 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,480 He would have been in tennis shoes and jeans. 275 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,520 That's where I said it. 276 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,920 We, it sounded like me. 277 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,560 I was like, this kid's a planner. 278 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Like he loves his car. 279 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,200 He would have called for his paycheck. 280 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,760 Like I'm planning my runaway. 281 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,960 I would have been the same way. 282 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,000 I've been like, well, I need to make sure I have X amount of this for this. 283 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Like have a plan in place. 284 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 You know, he's not a random dude. 285 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Right. 286 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,480 And this is random. 287 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Right. 288 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,480 What happened to him? 289 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,680 Because obviously that wasn't his plan for the day. 290 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,400 Like, it's not like he told someone, oh, I'm walking to work at 530. 291 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,400 I have to walk. 292 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,640 The Fazoli's was four miles from his house. 293 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,560 So you know, that's like an hour and a half, two hour walk, depending on how fast you are. 294 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,640 But you know, it's not like he told somebody, hey, I'm going to be walking like around three 295 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,960 o'clock to get to Fazoli's. 296 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,680 And you know, that was his plan. 297 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,160 But this, it was like he was called in and he's like, okay, I'm going to start walking. 298 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 And then the coworker is like, no, no, no, no, no. 299 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Like I'll come get you. 300 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,720 This will be faster. 301 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,160 Everything that he had planned for that day was different. 302 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,720 So you know, if somebody had been watching him, it's like, that doesn't seem like what 303 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,800 happened here at all. 304 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,800 You know, like. 305 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Yeah. 306 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,520 I'm not going to speculate like what I think. 307 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:19,960 I believe that the family probably lives in their mind, like within the worst fear of 308 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,380 what they're speculating, what happened to their loved one. 309 00:18:23,380 --> 00:18:29,560 So I don't really, that doesn't really like serve our purpose here. 310 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:35,720 In my opinion, as a true crime podcaster, what I think needs to happen is like, whoever 311 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:44,440 knows something, I know, I believe 100% that someone who is alive has some serious information 312 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,600 on what, on like on what happened in the whereabouts of him. 313 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,600 Absolutely. 314 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,920 Somebody knows something that needs, if you're out there, if you're listening, like now's 315 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,760 the time, now's the time to come forward and say something like this family deserves peace. 316 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,000 However, he comes home, he deserves to come home. 317 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,040 And hopefully that is alive and well, but you know, like there's much peace that can 318 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,040 be brought to the family. 319 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,200 It should be brought to them. 320 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:19,680 His mom is an amazing woman and she's talked a lot about Jason and has really kept Jason's 321 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,440 case in the media over the years. 322 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,380 And one thing she said that I thought was really perfect and, you know, summarize this 323 00:19:26,380 --> 00:19:31,240 kind of what you said is like, she has the right to hope until she knows what has actually 324 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,240 occurred. 325 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,660 I think it is the family's right to hold on to hope that he will come home safe and sound 326 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:40,840 and walk through the door at 42 years of age and be like, let me tell you about the last 327 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,840 22 years. 328 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:51,880 But again, if you know something about what happened to Jason Jolkowski in June of 2001, 329 00:19:51,880 --> 00:20:00,960 please call the Omaha police at 402-444-5657 or you can contact detective Jim Reising at 330 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,360 402-444-4127. 331 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:07,200 I just want to wish him a happy birthday. 332 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,200 Yeah. 333 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,960 I know his birthday is yesterday, right? 334 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Yesterday. 335 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,960 We're recording this on Sunday and it'll be posted on Monday. 336 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,960 Yeah. 337 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Happy birthday, Jason. 338 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,360 Happy birthday, Jason, wherever you are, buddy. 339 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,360 We're thinking about you. 340 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:22,360 Yeah. 341 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,720 Send a big love to you and your family. 342 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Think that wraps us up for episode 45. 343 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Yeah. 344 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,360 So like I say at the end of every podcast, if you can, while you're getting ready to 345 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:39,440 go to your next show, if you could leave us review, I saw we had a couple new ratings 346 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,200 in Apple podcasts and in Spotify. 347 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,280 So thank you for leaving those five stars. 348 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,600 Greatly appreciate it. 349 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,280 If you have the time, if you could write us a little review in Apple podcasts. 350 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Wow. 351 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,320 You become a huge hero in our home and we talk about you all the time and great esteem. 352 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,540 So if you want that treatment, go ahead and write it and you will have. 353 00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:06,040 She usually runs into whatever room I'm in to read them to me. 354 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,280 And most of the time I get a little misty eyed, I'd say. 355 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,120 So if you want to cause that reaction in our home this week, you know how to do it. 356 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,560 It's a pretty normal occurrence in our home. 357 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,560 Yeah. 358 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Even just five flame emojis. 359 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Yeah. 360 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Yeah. 361 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,680 I would be over the moon about it. 362 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,160 You can follow us at Instagram search cold and missing will pop up. 363 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,800 We'll have pictures of Jason to show what he looks like and also some age progress photos 364 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,480 to show what he would look like in his forties. 365 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,200 So we can keep our eyes peeled for him. 366 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,420 And if you want to learn more about us, about the podcast, other cases, you can head to 367 00:21:44,420 --> 00:21:50,080 our website, cold and missing.com and there we have all our episodes. 368 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,080 They're organized really well. 369 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,080 There's a couple of blog posts for episodes. 370 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,500 There's information about your lovely hosts. 371 00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:58,880 That's Eli and I. 372 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,280 You can donate to us. 373 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,640 Everything you need to know is at our webpage, cold and missing.com. 374 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,960 And with that, have a good week and stay safe, y'all. 375 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:22,640 Stay safe, y'all.