1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,600 Hello, I'm Brendan Martini, a commercial pilot and flight instructor. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,600 And I'm Carson Vasquez. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,600 I'm a private pilot. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,660 And you're listening to the Aviation Mentors podcast sponsored by Stratis Financial. 5 00:00:15,660 --> 00:00:20,520 So buckle up because the aviation mentors are taking off. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Welcome back to another fantastic and amazing episode of Aviation Mentors podcast. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Thank you guys for joining us today. 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,280 We've received a few questions about check rides, counting as a flight review. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,120 So we want to talk about flight reviews. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,520 And I know we kind of addressed the check ride thing a few episodes ago. 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,480 But a flight review is something that a lot of people forget all about because if you're 12 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:46,600 just doing flight training, you're going to be getting new ratings or you're going to 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,080 be getting kind of flight reviews with line checkman and things like that at the airlines 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,200 when you eventually get there. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,300 But if you're just a private pilot or an instrument rated pilot or even a commercial pilot doesn't 16 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:59,620 fly for hire, really, you're not going to be doing as many check rides or check flights 17 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:02,000 with people of authority. 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,320 So you actually have to do a flight review. 19 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:07,200 Nowadays, the FAA calls them flight reviews. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,960 But when I first started, they called them biannual flight reviews or BFRs. 21 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:17,200 And the reason why they are BFRs or biannual flight reviews and now just flight reviews 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,640 because you need to do them every two years. 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,280 That will come up on your check ride, by the way. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,720 They'll say, how often do you need to get a flight review? 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,040 Or they'll say, what does it take to be current? 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,440 I know that's my favorite one. 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Whenever I'm doing end of course exams, I say, what else do you need to be current? 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,160 I will continue to ask until they figure out that they need a flight review to be current 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,680 because everyone forgets about it because they haven't done one yet. 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,640 So make sure you know that you do need to do a flight review. 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,560 By the way, you don't have to do a flight review every two years. 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,680 That's what you mandatory have to do, just like you only have to do three takeoffs and 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,380 landings to stay current. 34 00:01:50,380 --> 00:01:53,320 But you do not have to do just flight review every two years. 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,160 I actually like to do a flight reviews once a year. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,480 I do an IPC and a flight review usually once a year for myself. 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,240 I go up with an instructor and I just I want them to quiz me and put me through the wringer. 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,240 And I actually tell them to be super hard on me. 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,760 I want to know exactly what I'm doing wrong. 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,760 And trust me, when I give other flight instructors, especially ones I've worked with, that opportunity 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,840 to be hard on me, they definitely don't take it easy. 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,760 They're like, Brandon, you lost 40 feet. 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,020 Thanks so much. 44 00:02:20,020 --> 00:02:23,760 And actually, one of our friends, Johnny, I actually he sent me a picture and he was 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,800 off by like 30 or 20 feet or something on an altimeter. 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 I said, Johnny, you're way off on that altimeter. 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,560 I can't believe that you'd send me a picture of you not not flying straight and level. 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,280 And and then I did the same thing one day. 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,280 He definitely called me out. 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,280 It was pretty funny. 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,160 But but yeah, so you can get a flight review at any time. 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,040 And Carson, have you had a flight review yet? 53 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,520 You know, I was going through my logbook because I thought I was getting some somewhere close 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,800 and realized that it was actually a month over on getting a flight review. 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 And don't worry, I haven't flown since I was current. 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,920 But it's been over two years since I've had my private pilot checkride. 57 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,720 So I actually need to get one soon, especially if I want to go fly again. 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,040 So my last my last flight review was my was my private pilot checkride, which, you know, 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,720 as we talked about, checkride resets that clock. 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,400 But I haven't had a flight review yet. 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,880 So what should I expect from a flight review? 62 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Well, there's actually several documents that that tell you exactly what you can expect. 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:33,580 There's an advisory circular 6168 Delta or sorry, 6198 Delta that was dated on 430 2018. 64 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:36,080 That's when the advisory circular came out. 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,560 So that tells you the currency requirements and guidance for the flight review and instrument 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,000 proficiency check. 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,680 And there's also a document out, which actually I like a lot better. 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,120 And it's it's obviously by the FAA, but it's not an advisory circular. 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,600 So it doesn't have the same legal status, but it really breaks down everything a lot 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,600 better. 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,600 It has pictures in it, too. 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,600 So I love books with pictures. 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,480 I'm like a little kid that way. 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,440 But it's all color and it looks really, really good. 75 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,140 And it looks like they actually did it really well. 76 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:07,560 And they actually have it presented by the FAA website. 77 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,700 And it says conducting an effective flight review. 78 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:14,200 So although that advisory circular kind of tells you exactly what you need to do. 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Well, if you want to do an effective flight review, you should probably follow this document. 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,440 So in the table of contents of that document. 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Now everyone says, well, you need to do an hour of ground an hour of flight. 82 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Yes. 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,520 Are those the minimums? 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,520 Absolutely. 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,720 Carson, do you think anybody should do the bare minimum? 86 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:35,680 No, just like the way almost nobody gets their private pilot in a minimum of 35 or 40 hours. 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Yeah. 88 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Part 141 or 61. 89 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Exactly. 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,680 That just it doesn't happen often. 91 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Doing the bare minimum almost never is a good thing. 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,440 Yeah. 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,040 Like I said, I got my private very low hours and I was an idiot for taking passengers up, 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,080 just like we talked about in that previous episode. 95 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,440 So yeah, you should fly more and get really used to different things. 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,440 So back to what I was saying. 97 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,960 So that document that they actually consider a PowerPoint presentation of conducting an 98 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:00,960 effective flight review. 99 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,240 They have a table of contents in there and they have step one, step two, step three, 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,240 et cetera. 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,720 But in the preparation for it, it says you want to manage their expectations. 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Let them know that they might not get their flight review done in one day. 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,080 I know I'm working with somebody right now on their flight review and we got their ground 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,120 part of their flight review done in, I think it took us about two and a half hours. 105 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,160 He hasn't flown in about a year or flown solo in about a year. 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,000 I think he's flown with some friends and stuff, but that's not the same. 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,880 He hasn't flown solo or rented an airplane. 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,980 So he got that ground done, but we couldn't go fly that day. 109 00:05:36,980 --> 00:05:40,520 So we set a day to go fly and we went flying the other day and went and had lunch. 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,200 And although he's a fun guy to fly with, we just weren't quite there yet. 111 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,840 We weren't able to get that flight review knocked out. 112 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:53,200 We still had six or seven items that needed some polish for me to be comfortable signing 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,320 them off for a flight review. 114 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,280 So I managed his expectations originally. 115 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:01,240 I tried to explain to him that, by the way, you haven't flown in a while. 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,500 Don't expect you just to get in the airplane. 117 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:06,640 Everything come back to you, especially with all of a glass cockpit when you've flown for 118 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 40 years and you didn't have a glass cockpit before. 119 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,920 So I told him I managed those expectations. 120 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,160 And another one is going through a regulatory review. 121 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,400 What has changed in the past year or two? 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Not much has changed in the past year or two, but it also asks for a cross-country flight 123 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,800 plan. 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,000 By the way, airspace changes all the time. 125 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,800 There's a reason why the charts come out. 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,280 I think it's every 56 days. 127 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:35,720 I could be quoted slightly wrong on that, but it used to be it depended where, depending 128 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,600 where he were at in the US, it was different timing. 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,560 But I think it's straight 56 days for every publication now. 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,960 But I would have that person do a cross-country flight plan. 131 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,040 If they're a brand new private pilot and they just went through training and all they've 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,600 ever used is paper, use paper. 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,320 If they've only ever used for flight, use for flight or whatever EFB they have. 134 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,640 So have them do a cross-country flight plan and review that thoroughly as part of your 135 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,600 ground, which I did with that gentleman as well. 136 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:11,000 I wanted to know about airspace and I really, really like hammer airspace on people because 137 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,960 that's one thing that will get you in trouble. 138 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,000 It's not just being able to land an airplane and doing that safely and being able to manage 139 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,840 the engine and all that other stuff. 140 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,160 That's really, really the kind of the core of it. 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,640 You don't want to break airspace. 142 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,680 You don't want to accidentally not talk to somebody when you should. 143 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,680 So in even step two, it says ground review and it says general aviation security issues. 144 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,720 I think that's the 1-800-GA secure phone number and there's actually something you can go 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,560 on if you work at a flight school, you actually have to go through it. 146 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,480 It's from the TSA. 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,780 Weather decision making, risk management and personal minimums. 148 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:49,200 These are all items that you need to go over or you should go over in a ground review. 149 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,960 And then flight activities is number three and it says physical airplane, basic skills, 150 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,520 mental airplane, systems knowledge. 151 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Guess what? 152 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,800 There's a lot of instrument rated pilots that what happens at the P2O2 vice is over. 153 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,160 I would love to say that all of them tell me exactly what should happen to the airspeed 154 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,320 indicator but everyone hems and haws and tries to give me a sideways answer and never really 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,000 gets to the point. 156 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,400 And then the other one they have on there and they have a separate line for it is aeronautical 157 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,840 decision making, ADM. 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,440 It's something we've talked about a whole bunch of times and we keep on bringing it 159 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,440 up. 160 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,840 We brought up in the last episode, we brought up this episode. 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Heck, we even have an entire episode for ADM and I think it's in like our top eight episodes 162 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,800 out of 70 or 71 episodes that we have out now. 163 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,320 So it's a really important topic and I'm glad our listeners are taking it as a really 164 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,620 important topic. 165 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:40,920 And then beyond all of that, it goes through a post flight debriefing. 166 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,960 So debriefing the flight. 167 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,400 It also talks about personal minimums and proficiency practice plans and what a training 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,480 plan should be in the future. 169 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,720 And then there's a bunch of other appendices to it as well. 170 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,840 So talking about if you're a CFI, like how you should properly conduct these in the future 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:05,240 and checklist and the three P's for risk management and so on and so forth. 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,440 But it's a really, really great document. 173 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,700 And like I said earlier, it's called Conducting an Effective Flight Review. 174 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:14,640 And if you just Google search FAA flight review, I believe it's on the first two things on 175 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,640 Google. 176 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,600 It's pretty fantastic. 177 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,920 So aside from staying legal and staying current, why are flight reviews important and why can't 178 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,880 I just use my last flight with an instructor as my flight review? 179 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,400 If I'm doing an hour ground, an hour flight with an instructor, why can't it count? 180 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Well sometimes it can. 181 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 It depends what you talked about and what you did. 182 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,640 Obviously if it wasn't an effective flight review, then it probably wasn't a good one 183 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,080 or should have been signed off as one. 184 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,000 But the answer is you can sometimes. 185 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,060 It depends on what you talked about. 186 00:09:45,060 --> 00:09:46,120 But why can't you? 187 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,920 Because you did not really hit the items that you really need to. 188 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,080 If you just flew with your buddy who's a flight instructor and you just him and Haad and you 189 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,880 did some steep turns and some stalls and like, ah, you're good for another two years. 190 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,080 Here's my signature like old timers do. 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,360 That's not a good flight review. 192 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,360 You didn't talk about airspace and you didn't talk about possible problems that you can 193 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,360 have in an airplane. 194 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,960 You didn't go through all the emergency procedures and things like that. 195 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Those are very different things that you're learning. 196 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,760 And even if you did go up with a CFI, you probably had a mission or you had a reason 197 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,360 that you were going up with a flight instructor that day. 198 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,000 Maybe it was just to feel more comfortable in the airplane. 199 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,640 It could have been to learn a new maneuver like a chandel or lazy eight for commercial 200 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,640 maneuver. 201 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:34,040 It could have been lots of different things, and it probably wasn't an effective flight 202 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,040 review. 203 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,040 That would be my answer. 204 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Got it. 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 And and back to why are they important? 206 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,000 Why are they important? 207 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,240 Because they're going to make you a better pilot and it makes you legal. 208 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,240 You got to do it. 209 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,120 So there's a big, big reason why it's important. 210 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,320 If you don't do it, you won't have a certificate very, very much longer. 211 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,680 FAA is going to pull that from you. 212 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:58,480 And just by the way, are flight reviews reported to the FAA or is it kind of on your honor 213 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,480 system until you get ramp checked? 214 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Honor system and probably not even honor system until ramp checked. 215 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:09,640 It's probably honor system until you get in trouble and they ask for copies of your log 216 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,400 books, to be honest. 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,880 I do know of some flight instructors and some pilots who have had to not surrender their 218 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,480 log books, but give copies of their log books to the FAA. 219 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,120 And by the way, if that happens to you, I highly suggest you go get an attorney. 220 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,040 If the FAA just wants to have a phone call with you after you screwed up with something, 221 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,040 that's one thing. 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Call the FAA and own your mistake and fix it and apologize and go from there. 223 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Now, if they start asking for a whole lot of documentation on what you did wrong, go 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,880 get an attorney so you don't lose your certificate forever or for 30, 60 or 90 days. 225 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,920 I mean, those are all bad things. 226 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,760 But yes, that's the only way the FAA is going to know if you... 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Take a traffic stop versus a search warrant. 228 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Yeah, pretty much. 229 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Exactly. 230 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,640 I mean, you can drive around in your car all day long without a driver's license. 231 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Is it legal? 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,880 No, it's not legal. 233 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Would you get caught? 234 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,860 No, not until you get pulled over. 235 00:12:03,860 --> 00:12:05,480 So it's the same thing. 236 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,800 So you always have your driver's license on you, obviously, because you don't want to 237 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,480 be doing illegal things. 238 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,000 And you're always going to have that flight review done because you want to stay safe, 239 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,520 current, and you want to stay legal, of course. 240 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Exactly. 241 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,120 So I'm happy admitting that I don't have a flight review yet, but I also haven't flown 242 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,320 because I'm going to get it done. 243 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,600 It's just part of being a responsible pilot and it keeps everybody safe. 244 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,880 But as a CFI, I'm pretty sure that you don't do the same flight review for an airline pilot 245 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,840 as you would a private pilot, right? 246 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,840 No. 247 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,240 But before we get to that point, since Carson doesn't have his BFR done yet or flight review 248 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,400 as the FAA now calls it, I'm guessing I'm going to have to go fly with him. 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,880 That's going to be absolutely miserable. 250 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Not for me, for him. 251 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Yeah. 252 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,480 I was about to say, I was like, you should enjoy flying with me. 253 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,560 I'm going to spend that quality time with me. 254 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:55,880 But if I remember anything from my stage check with you, and of course, stage check, it was 255 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,600 going to be a miserable flight for me. 256 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,000 Well, just make sure you're not staying up studying all night long and getting up at 257 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,280 4 a.m. to do the flight with me. 258 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,040 I still pass that stage review. 259 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,040 You did. 260 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,920 I put him through the wringer on that day, too. 261 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,920 That was great. 262 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:14,880 But as you said, do you do the same flight review for an airline pilot as a private pilot? 263 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,560 It depends. 264 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,640 Does that airline pilot fly general aviation airplanes all the time? 265 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,000 Do they fly low flying? 266 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Do they go do aerobatics? 267 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,600 Do they go fly tailwheel? 268 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,360 What type of flying do they do? 269 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,560 The real question is, you want to ask that person what kind of flying they do. 270 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:34,920 If somebody just flies around the pattern, and that's all they do, they fly around the 271 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,000 pattern and they go over to the practice area and they come back to the airport and they 272 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,920 do 30 minute flights and that's what they do. 273 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,560 They don't do anything else. 274 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,400 Do you think I'm going to spend hours and hours and hours on cross country planning 275 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,400 with them? 276 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Probably not. 277 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 I am going to touch base on it, obviously. 278 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,040 I want to conduct an effective flight review as the FAA says it, but I'm going to be doing 279 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,400 different things with them. 280 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,080 Also in that advisory circular, it explains to you that you should really focus on what 281 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,280 type of pilot they are and what type of piloting they're doing. 282 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,760 If they're flying IFR all the time, guess what, I'm going to do a couple of approaches 283 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,760 with them. 284 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,280 Even though it's not necessary, it's a flight review. 285 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,880 It's not an IPC, but the people who need the flight review, I usually do an IPC at the 286 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,960 same time, at least whenever I do them, just because it will get them current again, so 287 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:26,080 they're flying IFR and really it hones their skills more so than anything. 288 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,580 I would say the answer, the long answer, long answer long, is no. 289 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:33,700 You do a different flight review for those different types of pilots and you utilize 290 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:38,520 that advisory circular in the presentation from the FAA on guidance on how to do that. 291 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,320 I'm sure your answer is going to be something similar to this, but what should I do to prepare 292 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,160 for a flight review? 293 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,800 Not just a flight review with you, which I know is going to be hard, but a flight review, 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:56,080 I'm a weekend flyer, I'm a private pilot, and if I have my ATP, am I going to prepare 295 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,080 the same way? 296 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Is it the same information? 297 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,640 I mean, like I said before, it really depends on what type of flying you're doing, but 298 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,840 for you in particular, Carson, you're a private pilot, you don't quite have your instrument 299 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,640 rating yet, even though I think you have all the requirements. 300 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,600 I know, you've given me so much flack for it, thanks. 301 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Yeah, well, you can give me the same flack for not having my ATP done or my ATP written 302 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,120 done. 303 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,040 I've got that all ready to go and I just need to go do it. 304 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,480 So I know the feeling, but by the way, when I finally schedule that check ride and I go 305 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,840 get my written done for that ATP, you better be on my tail with that instrument rating. 306 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,520 You've got to get close. 307 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,520 I have to. 308 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,640 I know you're not going to give me a choice, otherwise you're going to rub it in my face 309 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,440 in the intro forever. 310 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,440 100%. 311 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,760 I can't wait to say ATP rated pilot and Carson's just, I'm still a private pilot. 312 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,960 So I would say for somebody like you, Carson, who's a private pilot and kind of a weekend 313 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,760 flyer, once a month flyer, I know sometimes you fly more than that, but I mean, in general, 314 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,560 it's more like a 30 hour a year pilot, right? 315 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,040 And that's actually kind of the general population. 316 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,160 If you're a private pilot or just a casual instrument pilot, everyone's goal is fly 100 317 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,440 hours a year, but most people only fly 20 or 30. 318 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,400 I know Richard Cavus told me how many hours some of these airplanes come in annual after 319 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,240 annual, and some of them come in with a couple of hundred hours, which are pretty awesome, 320 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,880 but most of them come in with 10, 20, 30, maybe 50 hours on them. 321 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,200 So that means the pilots of these airplanes are flying the same amount, right? 322 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,120 So I would say to prepare for that flight review, go ahead and read up on airspace. 323 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,120 That's a big one. 324 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,000 At least that's one of my biggest ones, especially in Southern California. 325 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Yeah, especially Southern California. 326 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Or if you're in an, if you're in an area with a lot of restricted airspace, like Nevada 327 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,360 or Arizona has got a lot of Moas, read about those Moas, read about the airspace, read 328 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,680 about what type of traffic comes in and out of your airport. 329 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,440 I would review the charts on your airport, review the chart diagrams. 330 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:59,080 I know our home airport, Riverside, K-R-A-L, they put in a, just outside of the taxiway, 331 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,720 which actually I don't know if it's published yet. 332 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,400 I got to find out. 333 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,120 But they've got a run-up area now that may or may not be published, but they've got a 334 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:09,080 run-up area that people don't know how to use. 335 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,600 I actually had to show somebody actually on that BFR the other day, how to use that run-up 336 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,740 area properly and when to use ground and when to use use tower. 337 00:17:17,740 --> 00:17:21,640 Like when to talk to each one of them because it's kind of in a weird place. 338 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,880 So those are also things that you would add to a flight review, which I actually did that 339 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,880 I didn't mention earlier, but it's those little things. 340 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,760 So try to look up your airport. 341 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,080 The person who I was flying with, they also, they had like a notepad where they wrote down 342 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,000 all the frequencies and they didn't look at a current chart. 343 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Guess what? 344 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,560 They didn't have the current frequencies. 345 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,680 The ground frequency at Riverside changed six or nine months ago or something. 346 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,760 And he still had the old frequency written down. 347 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,960 If he would have had that in the air or flying by himself, he wouldn't have talked to the 348 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,960 right person. 349 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,960 He wouldn't have gotten anywhere. 350 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Yeah, you're right. 351 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,200 It would have been like something's wrong with the airplane, right? 352 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,880 No, he wouldn't have gotten anywhere. 353 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,920 He wouldn't have been able to taxi or anything like that. 354 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,020 So it would have actually caused him possibly to cancel a flight or all sorts of things. 355 00:18:03,020 --> 00:18:05,600 So look at the regulations. 356 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,520 I would say look at part 91 and 61 or whatever the regulation that you work under. 357 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,680 I would also review some of the aim. 358 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,160 If you're going to a lot of FBOs, there's a lot of like hand signals that people do 359 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,520 when you're taxiing your airplane. 360 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,400 You need to know what those marshallers are saying. 361 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Are they saying turn right or turn left? 362 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Are they saying stop or keep coming? 363 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,460 Those hand signals are in the aim if you didn't know. 364 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:34,640 The aim is actually probably one of the, just I know side topic, but the aim is probably 365 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:40,080 one of my favorite kind of documents that the FAA has put out there because it gives 366 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,760 you so much information. 367 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,360 If you look through the aim, you can learn a whole lot from the aim. 368 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:50,040 I've read it twice actually, one of them in preparation for my CFI and then one after 369 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,000 I became a CFI just to kind of know what everything was. 370 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,080 But I wouldn't say have to go read the whole aim or read the whole FAR aim like I have. 371 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,920 But I would say go touch base on kind of the regulations and things like that. 372 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,480 There's some interesting like tips and tricks in the aim as well. 373 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,120 But we should probably cover the FAR aim in a whole other episode. 374 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,120 I fully agree. 375 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:14,480 FAR aim is a huge book as all of you who are pilots or soon to be pilots have seen. 376 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,920 I don't know, it's like two or three inches wide. 377 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,480 So imagine reading the whole thing. 378 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Yeah, and that book only has how many sections out of at least 135 that I know of. 379 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,160 But when you go to take a flight review, are they pass and fail or is there something in 380 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,160 between? 381 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,800 There's no such thing as a fail on a flight review. 382 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,780 We didn't finish. 383 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:45,320 So once you quote unquote pass your flight review, it's not really a pass or fail. 384 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,300 I mean, that's really kind of the wrong way to say it. 385 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:48,980 There's no failing a flight review. 386 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:50,900 It is not a pass or fail type of thing. 387 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:53,720 It is did we finish our flight review? 388 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,440 And the answer is for the other day for me was no, we did not finish our flight review. 389 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,400 We have, we're just continuing it. 390 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,700 The flight review will be continued until it's completed. 391 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:08,240 So you can complete a flight review and you can get the kind of endorsement for that. 392 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,460 Or you can just not finish the flight review and you just have to continue working on it. 393 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:16,680 So that's really the difference between pass and fail. 394 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Yeah, if you don't pass, you can be told you need more instruction. 395 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,080 Like I've talked about, just like the gentleman who I flew with the other day. 396 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,620 Yeah, if you don't finish your flight review and you're told you need more instruction, 397 00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,720 it does mean that you can't act as PIC until you have your instructor sign off. 398 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,080 So if you want to go fly, make sure you go fly with either a flight instructor or you 399 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,360 fly with another friend who's acting as PIC in that airplane. 400 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:44,040 You have to make sure that you're staying legal and of course you're staying safe. 401 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,200 Staying safe is more important than being legal, but it is a close tie. 402 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,120 I want you to do both and you shouldn't sacrifice either. 403 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,840 So make sure you guys are being safe and legal. 404 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,320 And for the pilots who are unlucky or maybe even lucky enough to not have Brandon Martini 405 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,120 as their instructor, where should they go to find a flight instructor to do their flight 406 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:05,120 review? 407 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:08,840 Because a lot of these people, they got their license from their school and moved on or 408 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,640 moved somewhere else or just haven't flown in two years. 409 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Yeah, absolutely. 410 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:19,040 I would look up your local airport and go find, usually the mom and pop flight schools 411 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,360 or flying clubs are normally kind of the best place to get a flight review done because 412 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:26,280 you're not in a flight training environment all the time. 413 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:31,320 And a lot of flight schools nowadays are middle sized or large sized flight schools. 414 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,880 They're really focused on the career pilots and they might not even have enough slots, 415 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,480 but you can go to any of them and ask. 416 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,520 I would go to any flight school that's at your local airport and just go meet the pilots, 417 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,960 go look at their airplanes, see how you feel about them. 418 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,760 Just if you click or you vibe with that particular flight school or flying club, ask them if 419 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,560 they can do your flight review. 420 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,440 And like I said earlier, just don't expect it to be done in one flight, especially when 421 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,920 you've not flown in a while. 422 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,240 But if you fly all the time, then you can probably expect to be done in one flight and 423 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,000 one ground lesson. 424 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Don't expect it to be exactly one hour either on the ground or on the flight. 425 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,960 It could be 1.1, it could be 1.9, it could be whatever it may be. 426 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,240 It just is what it is. 427 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,760 I know that my flight review flights with somebody who is very current and very good. 428 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,880 They're still typically about 1.2 to 1.6. 429 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,280 It kind of depends on traffic and stuff. 430 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,400 I just conduct it just like I would kind of a stage check or an end of course check with 431 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,560 the emphasis areas that are conducive with whatever their flying methods are. 432 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Or if they're in a particularly not so not really difficult airplane, but an abnormal 433 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,440 airplane to fly. 434 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,600 If they're in a special twin or something like that, I will custom cater it towards 435 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,560 that particular airplane and those systems a little bit more than I would like 172 or 436 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,560 something like that. 437 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,480 That brings me to one other quick question that I didn't prepare you for. 438 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,480 I'm sorry. 439 00:22:53,480 --> 00:23:00,720 If I have my single engine private pilot license and my multi-engine private pilot license, 440 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,720 can I get a flight review? 441 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,640 Does it have to be in both airplanes or can it be in either? 442 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,640 That's a great question. 443 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,240 By the way, Carson doesn't prepare me very well. 444 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Him and Phil are the real heroes in this. 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,800 They prepare everything and then I review whatever he's come up with about 10 minutes 446 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,560 before we record. 447 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760 I hope I have enough knowledge to pull it off. 448 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,360 I usually do too. 449 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,720 Sometimes we give it a lot of thought and you can probably tell which episodes we put 450 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,680 a ton of effort into and which ones we're not fantastic with. 451 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,840 We do love doing this for you guys and thank you again for everybody listening to us. 452 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000 The answer is you can do it in one of the other airplane. 453 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 It doesn't matter. 454 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,280 You can do it in the multi or you can do it in the single. 455 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,080 You can do it in the seaplane. 456 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,640 You can do it in whatever you want. 457 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,160 That's just like if you go get a new rating. 458 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,400 You go get a single engine seaplane rating, it counts as a biennial flight review just 459 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,440 like we talked about before because it's a new check ride. 460 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,360 But I would say go do it in the plane that you're flying most often. 461 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:02,480 If you fly a Baron all the time or you fly an Aerostar all the time or you fly a jet 462 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,360 all the time, it does not make any sense to go do a flight review in a 172. 463 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,880 If you fly a 172 all the time but you do have a multi engine rating, it doesn't make any 464 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,620 sense to go do it in a twin unless you are planning on flying that twin and you need 465 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:23,520 to get current again and in the realm of flying a twin again, you should probably do the flight 466 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,320 review in the twin then. 467 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,160 That way you are ready to fly that airplane and you are prepped and ready because you're 468 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,040 going to go have to get current and get in that airplane. 469 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,320 You might as well do it with a flight instructor. 470 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,320 It's a little safer. 471 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,040 You've got a little input in there and then you'll have a better experience especially 472 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,600 when you take your passengers up like we talked about last episode. 473 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Yeah, you know flight reviews, although I haven't done them yet, I know they're really just an 474 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,560 essential part of your aviation career and they make sure that you're able to keep yourself 475 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,520 safe, your passengers safe and everyone on the ground safe. 476 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,120 Like we talked about, you don't have to do a flight review only every two years although 477 00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,760 you legally have to. 478 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Doing a flight review is a great habit that you should probably get into anytime you haven't 479 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,160 flown for a period of time or you haven't flown with another pilot or another CFI in 480 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,160 a little while. 481 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,160 Yeah, absolutely. 482 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,200 I know a lot of flight schools and flying clubs, they actually have a, some of them 483 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,160 have two week currency, 30 day currency, 60, 90 day currency, kind of depends where you 484 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,160 fly. 485 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,560 I think if you haven't flown, if you're not, if you're just a weekend flyer and you haven't 486 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,440 flown in 90 days, you should definitely go up with an instructor before taking friends 487 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,960 and family up. 488 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Depending on your experience level, I would say even after 30 days, you should probably 489 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,520 go up with an instructor or go by yourself first before you go take people up. 490 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,880 Doing that flight review by the way is a fantastic way to hone your skills, even learn some new 491 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,880 skills. 492 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,080 I know I've done, I did a flight review, one of my first flight reviews several years ago 493 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,000 with a pilot and I went over things that he said he's never heard before, which was really, 494 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,160 it wasn't surprising just kind of knowing how long the gentleman was flying for, but 495 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,420 it was really kind of a cool experience knowing that, hey, I'm informing a pilot who's been 496 00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:09,720 flying three times as long as I have on just new things that are happening in aviation. 497 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,120 I think during that particular one, ADS-B was pretty new and it wasn't even required 498 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:19,400 yet, but I was able to tell him exactly where ADS-B was going to be required and how the 499 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,020 airspace was. 500 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:24,900 Everyone thinks that ADS-B was required everywhere, but it's really not. 501 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:29,400 In most of the airspace that he flew and most people still fly, ADS-B is technically not 502 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,760 required and not to be reliant on for-flight and your stratus on telling you where all 503 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,720 the traffic is because all the people who are using ADS-B in and out, they probably 504 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,840 already they're using it and they're doing the right thing and all the people that aren't 505 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 are probably the ones that you should be worried about, to be honest. 506 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,280 Just talking about things like that as your flight review, those are little things that 507 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,240 you'll learn over time. 508 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,440 Make sure you take that flight review really seriously and like Carson said, you don't 509 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,680 have to wait every two years. 510 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,240 You can go get one once a year or whenever you really need it. 511 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,960 I would highly suggest if you haven't had a flight review in a while or it's been a 512 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,240 little close, go check your logbook. 513 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,840 Make sure you're not like Carson and missing out on me to get that flight review done. 514 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,680 At least I wasn't flying without a flight review. 515 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,680 That is a good point. 516 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440 Yeah, you'd get an earful from me if that happened. 517 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,820 You need to update your for-flight and put that in there. 518 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:24,800 Anybody who's on here, if you don't have a digital logbook like me, I'm still old school 519 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,880 paper, I actually have reminders in my phone that go off on my calendar. 520 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,320 I know when I'm current on different things, on takeoffs, landings, IFR, final flight review, 521 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,320 all that stuff. 522 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,320 That's what I do. 523 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,360 Carson, I'm going to highly suggest you do that so you never get yourself in trouble 524 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,880 and have to hear an earful from me. 525 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Thanks again, Carson, for coming up with this great idea today. 526 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:56,120 Thanks Phil again for putting this episode together and making sure it's a success for 527 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:57,120 us. 528 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:02,360 As always, if you'd like to reach out to either one of us, you can reach us via emails, 529 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:09,920 preferredbrandon at aviationmentors.com or you can reach Carson, Carson at aviationmentors.com. 530 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,040 As a wrap up for the day, remember, we're here to guide you in your aviation journey, 531 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,840 so fly safe and enjoy the ride. 532 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:22,840 See you.