1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,600 Hello, I'm Brandon Martini, a commercial pilot and flight instructor. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,600 I'm Carson Vasquez. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,600 I'm a private pilot. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,920 And you're listening to the aviation mentors podcast sponsored by Stratis Financial. 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,400 So buckle up because the aviation mentors are taking off. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Welcome back everybody to another great and fantastic episode of the aviation mentors 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,440 podcast. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,900 Thanks for joining us today. 9 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:32,960 As we count down with only three days left to Oshkosh Air Venture for the kickoff. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,960 We can't wait. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,360 As you guys know, by the time you're listening to this at least, we're recording this a few 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,080 days early because we're getting in travel mode with the entire Stratis Financial team. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,520 I think we've got 10 of us going to the show. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,640 That's why we mentioned that we bought nine or 10 bikes on the last episode. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,520 And it is going like crazy for planning wise. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,480 And I'm sure if you're planning on going, you're already starting to look into things. 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,820 And if, especially if you're coming from across the world, some of you might actually already 18 00:00:57,820 --> 00:01:02,440 be in route before even hearing this episode today, which is pretty fantastic. 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,780 Our entire team will be at Oshkosh getting ready to see each one of you there. 20 00:01:05,780 --> 00:01:11,800 And Carson and I have been talking a lot about how you can fly into Oshkosh, what's to experience. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,240 And he needs more hours and experience to feel comfortable with him flying there. 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,340 I think he could do it. 23 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:18,340 Don't you guys? 24 00:01:18,340 --> 00:01:19,460 Maybe, maybe not. 25 00:01:19,460 --> 00:01:20,460 I don't know. 26 00:01:20,460 --> 00:01:25,920 You know, that's, that's a semi nice thing for you to say until you drop the drums on 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,800 me, but I do appreciate it. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,400 You know, I just, I think we just need a little bit more before we, before you go fly to Oshkosh 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,400 together, especially need to get super current again. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,400 Yes. 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,040 There's a difference between current and super current. 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Thanks so much for telling us, Carson. 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,360 Well, that's like saying IMC versus the soup. 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,360 Okay. 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Everyone knows what I'm talking about. 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,360 Yeah. 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Super current. 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,360 I love that. 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,360 That's a new FAA term that they're, they're now adopting. 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Yeah. 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,440 The 2024 far aim came out. 42 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,240 You didn't catch that part in the revision. 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Super current. 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,240 Super current. 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Super current and competent at the same time. 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Wow. 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,280 You're competent. 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,240 So that's interesting. 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Which brings us to a pretty great way to build time actually, since Carson needs to build 50 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,120 some more time for him to feel comfortable. 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 And that is joining a flying club. 52 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,800 We've never actually talked about flying clubs. 53 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,800 We've always talked about, we've talked about flight schools and university programs and 54 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,040 things like that. 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,140 So they are not for building hours usually, or not only for building hours. 56 00:02:25,140 --> 00:02:28,120 There's a ton of great benefits to being a member of a flying club. 57 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,320 And we're going to get into several of them today actually. 58 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Yeah. 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Well, Brandon, you know, neither of us have actually been in a flying club, but we've been 60 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,980 around them plenty and we have plenty of friends who actually been in them. 61 00:02:37,980 --> 00:02:42,320 So Brandon was suggesting I joined with them and gave me so many great reasons for it. 62 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,440 So I want to make sure you guys heard all of them. 63 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,800 First off, Brandon, why don't you start by explaining what a flying club is? 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Thanks for that, Carson. 65 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,240 Now, a flying club, by the way, wait until we start going to video and you're going to 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,920 get to see our funny facial interactions. 67 00:02:58,920 --> 00:02:59,920 It's pretty hilarious. 68 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,420 And we're going to do some video recording in AirVenture. 69 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:06,160 So it'll be pretty awesome for you guys to see some of us. 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,200 And you're going to see how ugly Carson is now, how amazingly great looking I am, of course. 71 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:16,320 I mean, it's just true. 72 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,040 You know, Brandon, you can think whatever you'd like to think about that. 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Matty feels differently and so does my mom. 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,760 So that's what really counts here. 75 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,760 I guess that's it. 76 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,000 The two women in your life that matter the most. 77 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,040 That's good for you. 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,300 So back to back to business, right? 79 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:37,600 So a flying club is similar to a flight school, except for it's not structured like a flight 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,600 school. 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:44,000 It's structured more like a group of friends that want to rent aircraft to each other and 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,800 they want to share in the expenses of them. 83 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,180 So that's really what a flying club is. 84 00:03:49,180 --> 00:03:53,540 So you can have a very small flying club with one or two airplanes. 85 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:57,160 And generally flying clubs are really made up of several aircraft. 86 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,800 You normally I don't know, three to 10 airplanes are probably the average size flying club, 87 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,080 probably generally kind of like the average size flight school, right? 88 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,840 The average size flying club will already have all these assets and we'll have several 89 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,480 members and we'll have a cap on members. 90 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,120 And what they do is they take a normally a large fee upfront. 91 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,480 So you'll pay five or 10 or 20,000. 92 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,400 I've even seen $50,000, sometimes even more if you're one of the only members of a brand 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,860 new club that needs a new airplane. 94 00:04:24,860 --> 00:04:30,280 And what they'll do is they will put the plane in the flying club's name and over time they 95 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:31,540 will sell shares of that. 96 00:04:31,540 --> 00:04:35,520 And that's how they will kind of cash themselves out when they start a flying club, right? 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,640 But in general, after a flying club is established, let's just say you've got two airplanes and 98 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,780 they're worth $100,000 total and you have 100 people in that club. 99 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:48,400 So maybe you have 100 people paying $1,000 to join the club and then you have a more 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,320 monthly maintenance fee for every member in that club. 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,120 And that every member might have to spend $100 a month on maintenance fee. 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,920 And that keeps the insurance on the airplane. 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,080 It keeps the airplane hangered. 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,680 It pays all the cost. 105 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,280 And then generally you'll have what's called a dry rate on the airplane. 106 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:08,760 Now whenever you go to flight school, they typically have wet rates. 107 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,540 The difference between a wet rate and a dry rate is one includes fuel and one does not 108 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:13,820 include fuel. 109 00:05:13,820 --> 00:05:18,080 So a wet rate means let's say you pay $200 an hour for an airplane. 110 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:24,640 If it's a wet rate, you don't pay any additional fuel cost unless there's a fuel surcharge 111 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,080 or something which has been kind of prevalent in our industry over the past two years because 112 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,240 of the Ukraine War. 113 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Or you can be in a flying club or something that typically has what's called a dry rate. 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,840 And a dry rate means you can save money if you like to save fuel. 115 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:43,320 So if you like to lean your mixture and you like to save fuel and treat the airplane the 116 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,420 way it should be very well, you will end up saving money, right? 117 00:05:47,420 --> 00:05:50,560 So the dry rate might be on that same $200 per hour airplane. 118 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,800 It might only be $100 per hour. 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,760 But then you pay for the fuel separately. 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,920 So maybe the rate is really, your total rate is $160 an hour. 121 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,520 So generally there's a break even point. 122 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,040 You need to fly an hour or two or five hours a month or whatever it may be in your club 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,960 to break even per year just like it is to buy an airplane. 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Generally you need to fly about 100 hours per year on a rental airplane before it makes 125 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:15,360 sense to purchase one and different things like that if you're only looking at the cost 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,200 and not the time savings. 127 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:23,960 So that's really kind of the main way that a flying club operates and what it is and 128 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,080 what their purpose is. 129 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,520 The purpose also, they take $100 or whatever their fee is. 130 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,000 Some places have really high fees from a whole lot of different people. 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 And guess what? 132 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,880 Most people don't get on the schedule and fly the airplane. 133 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,480 They just pay their fee every month. 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,400 But inside the agreements that everyone has to sign, they all have to stay current or 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,440 super current or whatever you said it was, Carson. 136 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,000 So that's also a possibility. 137 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,200 They have to stay current. 138 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,760 So they may have to go up with an instructor. 139 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,920 There's typically check instructors that are mandated by either the insurance or the board 140 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,480 of directors. 141 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Those are definitely all different points that you could see in a flying club. 142 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,260 Well, going back a step and speaking about fees, there's a ton of advantages to it. 143 00:07:06,260 --> 00:07:11,040 But based on the price first, how can that be a beneficial part of being a flying club? 144 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Well, generally, if you're at a flying club, you're not have to pay for flight school profit. 145 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Flight school is a business. 146 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,920 They need to make money. 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,600 That way they can pay themselves and pay their staff and pay for their lifestyles. 148 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Now, generally, flight schools aren't a very profitable business compared to other businesses. 149 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Some flight schools are and they make a lot of money. 150 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 The world's largest flight school, I guarantee they make a lot of money. 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,240 They've got like 56 campuses or something. 152 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,680 So the big difference is you're not paying their profit. 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,020 So let's just say their profit margin is normally 20%. 154 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:45,560 So $200 per hour airplane, that's $40 per hour that's going to go into the flight school's 155 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,560 pocket. 156 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,120 There also might be some overhead costs that isn't really profit. 157 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,800 That's maybe another 20 or $40. 158 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,760 So let's just say you might be able to get the airplane for 20 to 50% cheaper than you 159 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,560 would if you went to a flight school. 160 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,460 But there's an upfront cost usually. 161 00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:03,600 It's typically whatever that is to become a member of that flying club, whether it's 162 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,760 a thousand, two thousand, 10, 20, 30,000. 163 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,200 I know there's flying clubs that have Honda jets. 164 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,040 And I think those are memberships are like 250,000 and you have to pay for your own type 165 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,440 rating and you have to have this insurance checkout. 166 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,120 And you have to be with an instructor for like 50 hours or something. 167 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,160 So there's flying clubs that are for more wealthy people as well as people who are just 168 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,160 trying to save money or they want a different community. 169 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,720 So some people like a community of older pilots. 170 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,560 That's typically in a flying club, not brand new younger ones. 171 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:36,920 They like newer, nicer airplanes, ones that are well-kept because everybody in a flying 172 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,440 club is typically an owner of that airplane. 173 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,120 So you're going to keep good care of that airplane. 174 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,240 You're not going to treat it like a rental airplane or a rental car. 175 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Everyone treats a rental car like junk. 176 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,160 And everyone also keeps her treats rental airplanes like junk. 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,800 It's really unfortunate, but that's kind of the way that people treat things. 178 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,780 Not all people, but a lot of people do. 179 00:08:56,780 --> 00:09:01,260 So I would say that those are kind of the benefits, especially on cost. 180 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:03,520 You can save quite a bit of money because you're not paying for that flight school's 181 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,440 profit or some of their overhead. 182 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,120 Flying club might not even have an office. 183 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Really? 184 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,720 They will have overhead like insurance and things like that, but they probably don't 185 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,720 have an office space. 186 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,400 They don't have staff that mans that office. 187 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,120 They have different expenses and they're a lot lower. 188 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Yeah. 189 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,520 Well, it makes up for it because as far as the aircraft that you're flying, they're typically 190 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,960 going to be in better condition. 191 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,440 Like Rand said, you're going to be a part owner of that plane and you're pretty much 192 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,800 buying into it as well. 193 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,040 So you definitely want to have a part to play in keeping that plane nice and pretty. 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,080 Yeah, definitely. 195 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,720 And there's also some benefits to it. 196 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,200 I know flight schools I've been to. 197 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Typically they have staff that clean the airplanes, right? 198 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,560 They keep your windows clean. 199 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,880 They make sure the bellies get cleaned regularly. 200 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Well, a flying club, you're volunteers. 201 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,720 So that's also another thing you're going to be doing. 202 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,400 You're going to need to volunteer to go clean those airplanes. 203 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,760 You can't just be the slacker and never go. 204 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,760 You have to actually do something, right? 205 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,240 You have to be a member of this club. 206 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,080 It's like joining a country club or joining a shooting club or joining any type of club. 207 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,780 It's a club you have to join and you need to be a competent member of that. 208 00:10:07,780 --> 00:10:09,780 So those are some things you also have to do. 209 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:15,240 So obviously I've been a member of several different types of clubs for a long time, 210 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,280 but I'm a member of a soaring club, which I think I mentioned a couple episodes past 211 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,640 on when we talked about soaring. 212 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,240 And I don't participate that much, but I pay my dues. 213 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,880 So I'm actually probably a really good member. 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,920 I haven't gone there in like six months or a year and I pay my dues every month and never 215 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,320 complain and never ask for anything. 216 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,280 I'm the perfect club member, right? 217 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,280 They take my money. 218 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,880 I'd help pay for all the airplanes and the maintenance, but the downside of it, I don't 219 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,160 really go there too, because I don't have the time right now. 220 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,000 I don't go there to help clean the airplanes and be an active member in that community. 221 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 But if you do want to join a flying club, I highly suggest you're an active member in 222 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,400 that community. 223 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,480 That way you can keep those points in better conditions. 224 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,080 And it is a great community as well. 225 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,080 You're pretty tight knit. 226 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,660 You guys are flying together, you're flying the same planes. 227 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:01,600 You can time build together and there's a lot of just networking opportunities. 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,640 Like Brandon said, that's the way that you go and talk to people is just walk around 229 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,920 the airport making friends. 230 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,760 And that's essentially what you do. 231 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,200 And it's a great way as well to go and get into a flying club if you can't find one near 232 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,480 you. 233 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Because you can only find that kind of club and that kind of community in aviation. 234 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,760 So with all that interconnectedness, I think it's a really good route for me to take. 235 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,240 And like I was saying, most airports do have a flying club. 236 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,160 You're going to probably be around at least one or two airports locally to you, which 237 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,840 I didn't know about until I started flying, by the way, that there were so many airports 238 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,960 and someone's going to be a flying club. 239 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,320 Someone's going to know someone. 240 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,480 So just go talk, go reach out on Facebook or Instagram and someone's going to help you 241 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,480 out. 242 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 That's what aviation is all about, is just helping everyone. 243 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:49,040 And with that being said, I can't wait to help everyone and get to see everyone at Oshkosh. 244 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,840 And next year, hopefully I'm going to be able to fly into it. 245 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,280 So that's my huge goal. 246 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,060 And by the way, I'm going to mention one more thing on flight instructors. 247 00:11:57,060 --> 00:12:01,160 So like I said a few minutes ago, typically with flight instructors, you have to use the 248 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,280 club's flight instructors. 249 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,120 But sometimes they have flight instructors that the club has checked out who are not 250 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,160 members who allow you to flight train in those airplanes. 251 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,160 But also keep in mind, if you are not a pilot, there also might be a possibility that you 252 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,800 cannot even join that club until you're a pilot and have had a checkout flight, which 253 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:23,800 is typically about the same as another checkride or a checkride or a BFR until you become a 254 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,360 competent pilot to fly those airplanes. 255 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,200 They really want to take really good care of them. 256 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,880 And they're typically not your just cheesy 172 or Cherokee. 257 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:37,240 They're typically a 182 or a Cherokee six or a 210 or a serious or or even that Honda 258 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,520 jet that I talked about earlier. 259 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,100 So they could be kind of anything. 260 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:42,960 So I'm looking forward to seeing everybody in three days. 261 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,240 Actually, by the time you are listening to this, I will be in an airplane on my way to 262 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,560 Milwaukee to get my rental car. 263 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:54,640 Carson will already be at Oshkosh and you will get to go over and see him if you'd like. 264 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,740 He'll be setting up. 265 00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:57,480 The show starts next Monday. 266 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,080 So just in a few days from now. 267 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,120 So if you want to come see us at the booth, make sure you come see us at the booth number 268 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,520 1053 1054 hangar B aircraft spruce hangar. 269 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,240 And if you want to reach out to us so you can reach us at Brandon and aviation mentors 270 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 dot com or as always Carson at aviation mentors dot com. 271 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,640 We're looking forward to seeing you. 272 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Thanks so much. 273 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,700 And as a wrap up for the day, remember, we're here to guide you in your aviation journey. 274 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:29,240 So stay super current, fly safe and enjoy the ride. 275 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:56,240 See you there.