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Hello, I'm Brandon Martini, a commercial pilot and flight instructor.

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And I'm Carson Vasquez.

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I'm a private pilot.

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And you're listening to the aviation mentors podcast sponsored by Stratis Financial.

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So buckle up because the aviation mentors are taking off.

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Welcome back everybody to another amazing and awesome episode of the aviation mentors

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podcast.

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Today, we're actually going to be discussing something that all of us as aviators would

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love and that is airplanes.

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Airplanes, but better than that, airplanes in movies.

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Aviation movies are really just awesome.

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They're our favorite things and we just love watching airplanes in real life on a big

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screen on a small screen.

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It's really just our thing.

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And, you know, there's a lot that goes into making these aviation movies and making them

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a top hit.

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And I think they're pretty consistently a pretty huge hit.

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Yeah, I mean, a ton of them.

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I mean, every single aviation movie I've ever seen really kind of turns into it, whether

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it's a cartoon one or if it's a non realistic one or even some of the old movies that kind

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of pick World War One, World War Two, they always become hits.

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They pretty much always have a cult following like Top Gun becomes huge.

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And even movies like Disney's, their planes movie, which I like, you know, I liked cars

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and I liked planes and, you know, it's just a thing for me.

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Okay.

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So I think Planes Two or Planes Three, Fire and Rescue.

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I think that was the best one, really.

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If they make a series off of it, I'd probably watch it, you know, for being honest.

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Anyway, you know, these movies are really just a big hit and they can spark the interest

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for aviation, pretty much everybody.

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And you know, there's always a movie for every generation, every age.

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There's something you're going to like, and especially with aviation movies.

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So Brandon, what do you think the big draw is for these movies?

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First off, most of them are interesting.

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It depicts something that not everybody can do.

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Not everybody is an aviator.

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Although I think everybody who's listening to this podcast either is one or wants to

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be one, which is even better.

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So it's something that you can't do.

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People like watching other people do other things that they can't do for some reason.

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I mean, I like watching a Bugatti on TV because I can't afford a Bugatti.

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I also like yachts.

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I can't afford a yacht.

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So I like all the things and I like watching people enjoying the things because it gives

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me inspiration to be able to do those things.

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So I think that people watch movies like that just because they want to be inspired to do

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something.

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Right.

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Also planes and becoming a pilot is always kind of often seen as being way too expensive

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for normal people to get into doing it.

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Or I have to be rich to become a pilot or all of these misnomers are out there.

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Right.

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Obviously Stratus funds this podcast.

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So we'll always give them the shout out to Stratus financial.

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So you can go get a loan to become a pilot and it is achievable.

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And with the bonuses out with the airlines right now, you can pay off your loan early.

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You won't incur that much interest.

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So go and get your pilot certificate.

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It's not that expensive or I mean yes it is expensive but it's it's not that far fetched.

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You can do it.

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But I do think that people watch these movies because they think that it's unattainable.

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Especially movies like Top Gun like you mentioned.

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Obviously planes.

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It's a little far fetched but also really cool.

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It's one of my favorite cartoon movies.

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But yeah Top Gun.

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Most people aren't going to be a fighter pilot.

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I know I am never going to be a fighter pilot.

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That's just the sad truth of it.

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I'm too old.

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I was too big.

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I'm not too big anymore which is nice.

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But I'm definitely too old and I'm never going to be one of those kinds of pilots.

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But I can do all sorts of other things.

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Brands speaking of too big and now you lost all that weight we can probably fly the Icon

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together right.

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We can fly the Icon together by the way.

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It is possible now.

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So let's get some sort of like a tandem fighter jet.

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We can do like an L39.

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You and I can go fly it together.

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So I can go fly a jet.

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I mean I can go get type rated.

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We can go fly a jet.

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I just will never be a fighter pilot but I can probably go act like I'm one like I'm

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in a movie.

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That would be kind of cool.

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But action movies are always awesome which we're talking about a couple action movies

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right.

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But one of my favorites is a movie called One Six Right.

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And it's not like the number one the number six it's spelled out one spelled out the number

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six and then right.

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And they also have another one which I believe is called One Six Left which they do.

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I just looked it up on Google real quick.

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So One Six Right is a movie that was filmed and it's really about Van Nuys Airport Kilo

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Victor November Yankee Airport in Southern California which is where a lot of movie stars

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keep their airplanes still today.

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A lot of them moved them from Santa Monica now that Santa Monica Airport's starting to

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get closed down and the runway's gotten shorter over time things like that.

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But Van Nuys Airport has a ton of history all the way from just a barnstormer with crop

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dusters all the way up until filming a bunch of movies until today where it's still one

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of the busiest general aviation airports in the world.

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And I haven't watched that movie One Six Right in several years now but it's really about

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the passion and love of flying.

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And you can tell by the narrator I think his name's Hal Fishburne.

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He was a news guy in L.A. for a long time and he created this movie and he helped produce

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it along with a lot of other movie stars.

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And it is probably one of the most high quality aviation movies you'll ever see in your life.

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It's really really truly about the romance and love of flight.

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I mean I'm getting goosebumps talking about the movie it's that awesome.

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Anybody who has passion for aviation should go watch it.

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I mean bar none it's probably the best aviation movie that has to do with that's a documentary

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that I've ever seen in my life.

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The quality of it's phenomenal as well.

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I don't know if there's better than 4K but I think it looks better than 4K.

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You know it sounds interesting just from you talking about it and believe me guys Brandon

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gave me plenty of flack for not watching this one when we're talking about what we're going

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to talk about today.

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But you know back to it obviously like most of the Hollywood movies they're for entertainment

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really just to make you interested in something and they don't always line up exactly with

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reality.

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And one of these movies is flight which although it's a really great movie it doesn't quite

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match up with what flying is really like.

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And for one very obvious reason right Brandon?

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One very obvious reason.

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They put that plane upside down and try to have it fly upside down.

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It's just not going to happen.

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The way that wings are designed if you want to fly an airplane inverted there are certain

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wing designs that you need to use to fly an airplane inverted.

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And I can guarantee you the one on whatever that type of airplane was a Boeing 747 or

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whatever it was.

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I don't know the exact type of airplane but I guarantee you that was not the correct wing

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structure to fly upside down.

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You're also going to lose your fuel supply.

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Lubricants used in the engine systems aren't going to cope very well with inversion.

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There's certain fuel pumps that aren't going to work at all.

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I'm sorry not fuel pumps but just any types of hydraulic pumps are not going to quite

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work the same way.

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There's lots of reasons why you cannot fly an airliner upside down.

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Although the movie was cool and it was really impactful to see it's probably not reality

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unfortunately.

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a turn is the most it can do.

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And they're gravity fed for some things so overall it just would not work.

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But it is a good movie.

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Now I will I will go on a caveat though.

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If you can keep the aircraft in one G the entire time you could probably roll it and

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I know there's a rumor that there was a test pilot trying to sell an airline a bunch of

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Boeing airplanes and he rolled it and I think it was a 727 a long time ago and he rolled

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I don't know if it's true but it's a rumor that's been around for a long time.

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So technically if you can keep the aircraft at one G the entire time or even whatever

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the airplane can tolerate but as long as it's in a positive G force it's definitely possible

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to be able to roll an aircraft probably any aircraft but an airliner would not be an easy

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one.

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But you know aside from the dramatically obvious like you can't fly an airliner upside down

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stuff like that.

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Aviation movies can actually have a pretty big impact on public perception and sometimes

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that's even the purpose of it.

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When Top Gun the first one came out there were quite a few claims that original movie

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saw a 500 percent increase in military recruiting especially the Navy and the United States.

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In reality though that one can be shot down no pun intended actually a lot of pun intended

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Thanks I was giving Brandon an opportunity to use that one but in reality that was an

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8 percent increase in military recruiting after that movie.

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So not a huge one but it actually had a really big way of bringing more unity respect and

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kind of like awareness to our military aviators.

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It really just had that profound impact on the public perception and the awareness of

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military aviators.

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And for many people it was really the first inside look into the high stakes world of

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naval aviation and military aviation because it's just not something most people get to

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go see unless you're going to a huge air show like Oshkosh.

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We are you know a couple weeks looking forward to that one but yeah make sure you guys come

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by and come see us on the Stratus financial booth.

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We'll be around and you can even shoot us an email or hit us up on social media and

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we'd be happy to meet with any of you guys.

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Yeah it'll be pretty fun to see more of our fans and more of our listeners.

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It was cool enough seeing you guys at Sun Fun and we have a better chance to see you

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know Oshkosh so we're excited for it.

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But you know going back to it Top Gun is really just it's an incredible movie and a lot of

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people don't get the chance to see that kind of thing.

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You know most people aren't going to go on a military base in their life.

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Most people aren't going to get up that up close to any one of these military planes.

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So it not only glamorized the profession but really brought some attention to the skill

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and dedication and really bravery required to be a fighter pilot.

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There's so much that goes into it.

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I think that people thought a lot of things actually.

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I thought I think that it brought back the passion of aviation for a lot of people who

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either lost it or never had it in the first place.

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I think it really inspired another generation to possibly become an aviator in the military

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which is awesome.

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And honestly it makes everyone ask me oh can you really go fly upside down in anything.

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And that's kind of why I brought up the flight thing and we brought that up in our show notes

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today because no you can't do that in every airplane.

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And to be honest when I wanted to learn to fly I thought that oh you're always just going

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to be spinning upside down and you're going to be doing dog dogfight maneuvers and that's

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going to be what flying is all about.

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But no it's not really like that.

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It's more of a controlled climb and a controlled takeoff and a controlled cruise and controlled

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descent.

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It's all about control and controlling that airplane rather than just letting it do whatever

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it wants and spinning upside down and doing flips and maneuvers all this stuff.

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So I think that that's what kind of gives people a passion to go learn to go fly right.

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Yes some misnomers in that first movie.

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So for example it's very unlikely for somebody to crash an airplane like that.

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There's a lot of I mean what I'm referring to is goose passing away.

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If you haven't seen the movie sorry goose dies in the first movie and there's your little

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alert for but it's already after.

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In 1986 I think you've had plenty of time to go watch the movie.

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I think I think I think they should have watched it by now.

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But with that being said goose passed away the likelihood of all of those things going

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wrong and somebody not being able to eject out of the airplane is is pretty slim especially

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with the amount of work that the people do to maintain aircraft.

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There's also some other things and in that movie with in regards to G forces and stuff

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that aren't quite true.

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But no matter what it brings brings excitement and joy to people who watch it.

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And that's why I like it.

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You know Brian I know we're not really we're not Top Gun pilots and you certainly aren't

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to the best of my knowledge.

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Although you have been a CFI for one right.

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I've been to a CFI for several of them actually that it's not called Top Gun it's called something

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else with the actual military school that they go to is called.

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But essentially they they call it Top Gun as well.

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I've actually trained to two pilots that went to Top Gun and one Blue Angel actually believe

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it or not.

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And the Blue Angel was the was the guy who didn't tell me until he was about to go take

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his checkride by the way.

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And the two Top Gun pilots told me within five minutes of me meeting them.

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It was pretty comical but they were super cool guys.

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They were humble about not knowing how to fly a small piston twin engine airplane.

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It was pretty funny.

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I'm sure they can go fly F16 or F18 with no problem whatsoever or F35 one case I think.

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But they can fly those planes like no other.

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But I put them in a Beechcraft Duchess for their ATP training and they're like what are

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all these levers do.

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It was pretty funny.

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But everybody I've trained and even the Top Gun guys they've been really really great

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pilots I mean fantastic pilots.

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You don't become a Blue Angel you don't become a Top Gun pilot by not doing well in aviation

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or not coming prepared.

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I do a lot of training for ATP pilots.

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They leave the military they want to go get their ATP because it makes them more marketable

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to go to the airlines.

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So I'll help them get their ATP done in a multi so they'll have a multi ATP completed

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and when they apply for the airlines they'll just have one more rating outside of all of

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their other the other pilots that are applying and hopefully that'll give them the slight

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edge right.

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So I have trained a bunch of those guys and they always come really prepared they always

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read all my notes they always read everything prior so they're really prepared for the day

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of which is really commendable to the Air Force and the Navy and all of our military

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because they've trained these guys and girls really really really well.

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They know how to study and they know how to come well prepared.

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It's fantastic.

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I absolutely enjoy and love flying with with all of those ex-military aviators.

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Pretty cool opportunity to train them and watch them kind of struggle when they get

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to such a slow plane going from something huge to the Duchess.

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Yeah big time I mean they're going really really fast now they're going slow and they're

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like what is what is P factor and why is the airplane doing this and how do I do a VMC

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demo in this airplane and that's honestly that's the number one thing no one's ever

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able to do the VMC demo.

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Well you know all that being said and you having been around them and trained them how

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realistic do you think Top Gun Maverick was?

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Well Top Gun was filmed with a lot of aircraft flying a lot of airplanes they even have a

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I think it's called like the Cinejet or something like that but it's got a giant camera in the

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front of it that's like 8k or whatever it is but something really really nice and they're

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able to fly around and follow all these jets.

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I think that all of the jet scenes were all really cool and I think that it was awesome

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that Tom Cruise did a lot of the flying in that as well.

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He is a pilot and a good pilot at that obviously if he's able to do some of these maneuvers

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and things that he did in that movie.

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So all the planes were real a lot of the dogfights a lot of the stuff that they did was really

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really cool.

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Obviously not all of them were actually real so to the best of our civilian knowledge we're

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not clear we have no clearance right.

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There's nothing like the Dark Star that was in Maverick and actually if you try to eject

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at Mach 10 the physics of that will tear you to pieces.

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I mean you're basically going to hit a wall of air.

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I mean air can turn into a solid if you're going fast enough.

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That's why things burn up in our atmosphere right.

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When coming back from space.

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So by far the Dark Star that's really probably not possible.

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I mean he definitely would have been dead and probably like splattered into a million pieces if he would have ejected at Mach 10.

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There's no way he would have ended up in a coffee shop and hey can I use your phone.

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Well with all this black smoke all around him a little kid looks up and like oh no that's

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not going to happen.

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The only the only way that would happen is if he was an actual alien like that little

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kid thought he was he was like you just came from space.

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It's pretty much he did.

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He said where am I.

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And the kid was like Earth but you know it doesn't make it any less of an amazing movie.

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And when Brandon said we don't have the clearance.

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Maybe think of clearance clearance which brings us to the next highly unrealistic aviation

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movie airplane.

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Thanks.

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I really appreciate that one.

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You know it's it's not super realistic and there's a lot of unrealistic parts of it.

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It's a comedy of course but takes place in an airplane and that's what we love.

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So let's let's talk about a couple of them right.

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There are a lot of very unrealistic parts and everything from the flight attendants

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to just having a like a hospital chair in the in the airplane.

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You know they everyone has to be in a seat right.

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But Brandon can you name the one part that actually is kind of realistic.

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Yeah.

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So in general it's not necessarily a rule or a law but pilots generally do eat different

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meals especially on long haul flights.

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I mean if you're flying with someone you don't want both of you to get sick to your stomach

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right.

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Most pilots do eat different meals and that's probably the most realistic thing in that

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movie.

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There is almost nothing else and maybe that an airplane flies like it actually goes to

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the air and it takes off and I don't know if it lands in that movie or not.

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I can't remember.

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I haven't watched in a while but I mean the autopilot's a little bit off on that movie.

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There's some things that are not quite right.

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You know Brandon that may not be super realistic but I still like that movie.

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So either way but it is interesting that the pilots do fly you know and eat different meals

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it does make sense though.

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You don't want your pilot getting sick.

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But all in all Hollywood movies are really just they're fun they're entertaining and

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they're there for a reason and it's to spark an interest and it's something that people

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are passionate about and people like to watch.

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So of course it generates so much attraction to them and everyone just wants to be a part

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of it.

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And lucky enough for us we're all we all love aviation here.

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That's what we do and we hope that going through a couple of these made you add a couple to

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your list to go watch right after.

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Absolutely.

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If you're going to give another plug for one six right.

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Everybody should go watch that movie.

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You can go to one six right dot com.

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They don't sponsor us but that movie is so amazing.

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I have to recommend seeing it.

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Obviously if you want a comedy go watch airplane.

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That's hilarious.

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And if you want some awesome thriller slash action movie go see Top Gun.

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Both of them.

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But thanks you guys for listening today.

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We had a lot of fun recording this episode and we will look forward to recording the

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next few and then seeing all of you at Oshkosh which will be amazing.

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If you'd like to reach out to us you can reach us at Carson at aviation mentors dot com or

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Brandon and aviation mentors dot com.

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And as a wrap up for the day remember here to guide you in your aviation journey.

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So fly safe and enjoy the ride.