1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,800 Hello, I'm Brandon Martini, a commercial pilot and flight instructor. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:09,800 I'm Carson Vasquez. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,800 I'm a private pilot. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,680 And you're listening to the Aviation Mentors podcast sponsored by Stratis Financial. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,320 So buckle up because the aviation mentors are taking off. 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,520 Welcome back everybody to another great and fantastic episode of the aviation mentors 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,520 podcast. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,640 Today we're going to be talking about one of the newer aspects of aviation, something 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:37,520 that's actually part of the FAA's next generation air transportation system or next gen. 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,160 That's the automatic dependent surveillance broadcaster, ADS-B. 11 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:45,960 ADS-B is a surveillance technology that allows aircraft to determine their position by satellite 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,960 navigation and periodically broadcast it, enabling it to be tracked. 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,440 There's a couple different versions of ADS-B, ADS-B in and ADS-B out. 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,040 We're going to kind of touch base on ADS-B out today. 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,880 But I'm excited to talk about this topic because it's something that I always kind of question 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,300 my students whenever we're doing the end of course or things like that. 17 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,640 So I know I really questioned Carson on it. 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,440 And this has only been a requirement since 2020. 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,440 I really thought when COVID hit, they were going to move this to be honest. 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Well first off, let's talk about the purpose behind ADS-B's development. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,080 So the development of this system was pretty much driven by the need to enhance surveillance 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 of aircraft. 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,280 The more airplanes are in the sky, the more we need to watch them and keep a close eye. 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,160 And particularly in areas where traditional radar coverage is either weak or non-existent. 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,120 And these traditional radar systems, which were used for air traffic control, do have 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,820 a few limitations that ADS-B was designed to address. 27 00:01:43,820 --> 00:01:46,720 So a big one was geographic limitations. 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,360 The ground coverage, the ground-based radar systems have a limited range and they struggle 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,040 to provide coverage in either mountainous regions or over the ocean. 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,800 And ADS-B on the other hand relies on GPS signals and can provide coverage pretty much 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,700 anywhere as GPS as well as a ground-based ADS-B receiver. 32 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:07,520 And the exception of this rule, which Brandon and I actually learned through some good research, 33 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,000 was that there is space-based ADS-B for oceanic flights. 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,720 So that's a pretty cool one, right Brandon? 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Yeah, absolutely. 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:20,520 I didn't even realize they had a space-based ADS-B for that purpose because I never fly 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,880 over the ocean. 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Like not far, like flying over the ocean to Catalina, that might be one thing, but not 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,440 doing a transatlantic or trans-pacific flight to Asia or something like that's not something 40 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,280 I've ever done. 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,480 So it was just new information for me, but it's pretty cool to learn. 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Yeah, it's not a big concern for us. 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,520 It's not something in our world of aviation. 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,440 That's a totally separate world. 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,480 What's always good is always learning something. 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,040 I mean, we talk about learning something all the time, and it's okay to not know something, 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,600 by the way, even if you're a high-time pilot. 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 I mean, just ask. 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Because like I've said before, it's only going to be a stupid question one time, and then 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,800 guess what? 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,800 You're no longer stupid. 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,240 You're smart. 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,160 You now have the information, which is kind of neat. 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,820 Yeah, that was game-changing advice, and Brandon gave that to me. 55 00:03:07,820 --> 00:03:09,520 So where are we at? 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,160 The real big purpose of ADS-B, it's really to address the radar information limitations. 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,040 So radar won't give you a ton of information. 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,240 Conventional radar only provides an aircraft's position and altitude. 59 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,960 ADS-B, though, can provide the aircraft's identity, velocity. 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,140 It even says if it's climbing or descending or in straight-level flight. 61 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:31,080 So that's the why behind ADS-B. 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Brandon, I'm sure you can go a little bit more into as a CFI about the how behind ADS-B. 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Yeah, absolutely. 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,120 Sure, let's go into how ADS-B works. 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,320 The first component of ADS-B is determining the aircraft's position. 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,840 For this, the aircraft uses on-board GPS, or Global Positioning System, if you've had 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,980 your head under a rock for the past, I don't know, 40 years. 68 00:03:53,980 --> 00:03:55,880 But they use GPS. 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:01,800 These systems are extremely accurate and can provide precise latitude, longitude, altitude 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,880 of the aircraft, as well as other information. 71 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Once an aircraft's position is determined, the ADS-B transponder, it's kind of known 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,800 as an ADS-B transponder, but the ADS-B out system broadcasts this information along with 73 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,840 other data, including the aircraft's identity, its tail number or call sign, which is actually 74 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:28,040 programmed into whatever system is sending out ADS-B. 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,720 And it could be a variety of things. 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,640 It could be integrated into your transponder. 77 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,640 That's why I kind of said that a second ago. 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,080 Or it could be an additional component, which is kind of connected to your transponder. 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:43,640 Or it could be something like the wing-based ADS-B that a lot of our aircraft have from 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,680 UAV Onyx, which I've used plenty of times. 81 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,640 But it can also tell you the velocity, whether it's climbing, descending, if it's in level 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,640 flight. 83 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:58,540 It just gives more information than just traditional radar-based information. 84 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:02,680 This information is broadcast approximately once every second compared to something that's 85 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,520 a lot slower, like radar. 86 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,360 In addition to broadcasting the out information, some aircraft also have the capability to 87 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,960 receive ADS-B in signals. 88 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Now that could be based on your type of transponder you have. 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,280 You could have one of those stratuses that, no pun intended, by the way, I could sponsor 90 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:25,280 by stratus, right? 91 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:31,840 But you can have one of those stratus or stratics with the X ADS-B in receivers. 92 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:36,480 Some people have even built them out of raspberry pies, which are pretty cool to see people 93 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,480 do. 94 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,120 And that actually enables them to see real-time information about other aircraft nearby, including 95 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,960 their position, their altitude, velocity, directly into the cockpit. 96 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,040 And by the way, you can't just have this system and then it just starts spewing information 97 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,840 into your headset or into your eyeballs, right? 98 00:05:54,840 --> 00:06:01,760 You need to have an iPad or a GPS system or some type of system built into the aircraft 99 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:08,280 or with you that is like for flight or fly Q or one of those programs, right? 100 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,920 That way it can show it to you just on that digital display. 101 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,920 It's pretty neat. 102 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,880 Yeah, we're not quite at the point where we can just get that information, right? 103 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,640 You got to have something in between. 104 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,640 I mean, it depends. 105 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Do you think we're living in the matrix, Harson? 106 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,440 We are, especially considering the fact that I'm a pilot. 107 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,440 I think that's crazy enough. 108 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Yeah, I do too. 109 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,440 I don't know how you passed. 110 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,440 I don't know. 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,440 You got me there. 112 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,840 But speaking of information, there is a lot of information that pilots can get from their 113 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:34,840 ADS-B. 114 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:40,840 And the primary one is that ADS-B in, like Brian was just talking about, allows pilots 115 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:45,400 to see other aircraft in the vicinity that are equipped with ADS-B out. 116 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,760 So like you said, that includes aircraft's altitude, speed, and direction. 117 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:57,700 And it can be especially useful in VMC, visual meteorological conditions, where pilots are 118 00:06:57,700 --> 00:07:02,040 pretty much 100% responsible for seeing and avoiding other aircraft. 119 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,320 And one of the great advantages of ADS-B, like you said, is that ability to provide 120 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,960 up-to-date weather information. 121 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,400 It's known as a UAT broadcast. 122 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,900 And that will give you radar, the weather radar, METARs, TAFs, airmats, and SIGMETs. 123 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:20,800 And that's all examples of some of the data that can be received by certain ADS-B in systems. 124 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 So this information, I've actually used it plenty of times. 125 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,480 I'm sure you have too, right, for flight, Brandon? 126 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Absolutely. 127 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,480 It goes right in. 128 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,320 And this can be extremely useful for making strategic decisions during a flight, such 129 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,840 as deviating around bad weather. 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,920 I think we talked about that one flight up to Sacramento when I had to use that weather 131 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,040 information to see where I was going and what the cloud coverage was and what the winds 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,480 were at my airport that I was trying to get to. 133 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,760 So that'll help to make that good aeronautical decision that we talked about and know that 134 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,680 I probably shouldn't go fly there. 135 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,680 Absolutely. 136 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:59,480 I mean, it's a lot easier to look at your iPad or look at your GTN 750 and see that 137 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:06,900 ADS-B in information and seeing all the weather rather than having to call ATC and talk to 138 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:08,720 one of the radar service stations. 139 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,560 I mean, I've done that a handful of times just because. 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,800 And they're starting to phase them out more and more. 141 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,760 But they're still charted and they're still available. 142 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Whenever I've called, they're always excited to talk to me. 143 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,820 And I don't know if they don't do anything else all day or what it is. 144 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:27,240 But they're pretty excited to give me an entire briefing or let me file a flight plan or whatever 145 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,240 it may be. 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,160 I don't think they're that busy nowadays because technology is really taking over. 147 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,160 They're not that busy. 148 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,000 I called one on the way up to Sacramento. 149 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,960 I saw it on the chart and I was a little confused about what the weather was going to be. 150 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,960 And it was mid-flight. 151 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,640 And I said, let's finally make the call. 152 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,640 So I made that call. 153 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,080 They were so excited. 154 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,720 He told me everything that was going on for the next 30 miles at my destination, everything 155 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,960 around my destination, my alternates. 156 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,460 So, yeah, they definitely don't have a lot to do. 157 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:58,560 So make sure to use that resource as well. 158 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:04,340 But back to ADS-B, it's important to note that while the ADS-B provides absolute wealth 159 00:09:04,340 --> 00:09:09,040 of useful information, it shouldn't be the sole source of information for pilots. 160 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,280 It's a supplement for the information. 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,760 It's not a replacement for things like preflight briefings and continuous updates from ATC 162 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,240 and other sources, just like that flight service station during the flights. 163 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,960 And like Brandon mentioned in one of our last episodes, airspace is updated. 164 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,840 Maybe not super frequently, maybe super frequently. 165 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,440 It depends on where you're at. 166 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,840 But you should know that before you get in the air. 167 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,560 And speaking of airspace, Brandon, what are the requirements for ADS-B in a couple of 168 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:33,560 different airspaces? 169 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:34,560 All right. 170 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,760 I'm going to try to go off my memory on all this one. 171 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,840 So if I miss something, either one, Carson, you remind me, or one of our listeners send 172 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,540 me an email and tell me I screwed up. 173 00:09:43,540 --> 00:09:44,640 But I should know all of them, right? 174 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,960 So let's start off with the first one. 175 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,560 Is alpha airspace? 176 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,560 You definitely need it in alpha. 177 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,080 You need it in the class Bravo airspace. 178 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,760 You need it inside of Charlie. 179 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,680 And you also need it going over a Charlie airspace. 180 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:02,440 But you can go under Charlie airspace without it. 181 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,440 So that is possible. 182 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:11,080 It is not necessarily needed in class Delta, Echo, or Gulf airspace. 183 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,000 But it can be sometimes. 184 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,400 So it's also required any time that you're flying over 10,000 feet, unless you're in 185 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,080 mountainous area. 186 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,520 And I don't remember the exact number, so don't quote me on this one. 187 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,000 But I think it's 1,000 or 1,500 feet above the highest obstacle in a mountainous area 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,800 where it's not needed if you go over 10,000 feet. 189 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,240 So that's also there. 190 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,680 It's also required in the, it was called the mode C Vale for a long time, which is 30 nautical 191 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:40,680 miles from a class Bravo airport. 192 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,400 But if you look at the charts, they've updated them over the past few years. 193 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,800 And now it says, it says mode C and ADSB. 194 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,000 So now it could be called the ADSB Vale, right? 195 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,320 So that's what's really kind of interesting about all that. 196 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,600 I think I covered all of them. 197 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Do you know if I'm missing any Carson? 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,800 No, I think that's everything. 199 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,640 And yeah, he also loved your charts. 200 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,440 Of course he watched it for the update. 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,760 Yeah, I did. 202 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,200 It was like the one thing I looked for. 203 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,720 And they actually did that after ADSB was already required. 204 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,480 They did it sometime during COVID. 205 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,560 And I don't really remember when it happened, but I have an extensive collection of charts. 206 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:20,680 I'm sure I could look up and tell you the exact date if I really wanted to. 207 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,280 Well, I'll say it was 2021. 208 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,600 I remember that change during my flight training. 209 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,600 Oh, nice. 210 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Well, also, so that's kind of where it's required. 211 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,560 So everyone says ADSB is required now, right? 212 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:36,380 Well, yes, it is required, but it's only required in all of those places. 213 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:41,640 If you go look at the map of United States, guess what's not covered in most of that map? 214 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,000 ADSB required places, besides over 10,000 feet. 215 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Obviously, that's a little bit different. 216 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,000 But ADSB is not required in most of the United States. 217 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,360 It's really kind of mind blowing. 218 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,320 I know there's a lot of practice areas, especially local to us in Riverside area, where ADSB 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,480 is technically not required. 220 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,240 And I trip up students on this all the time. 221 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,560 I'm like, well, why is it required there if they try to tell me it is? 222 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,240 And I'm like, it is not required there. 223 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,920 And flight instructors, who I see a lot of flight instructors over the years, a lot of 224 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,040 them love ADSB in so much. 225 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,960 They love their iPads, and they have them sitting on their lap, and they always just 226 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,600 look for this traffic on their iPad. 227 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,160 And they don't look outside enough. 228 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,600 I tell all these instructors that they're being so foolish, it's ridiculous. 229 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,160 You need to look outside because you're flying VFR. 230 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,280 You need to be looking outside. 231 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,840 You need to be looking for these other aircraft. 232 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,840 Guess what? 233 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,640 The person who's not talking on the radio who you should be worried about also didn't 234 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,960 pay to put ADSB in their airplane. 235 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,960 So guess what? 236 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,920 You're not going to get them on your iPad, and they're not going to be talking to you. 237 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,080 And your head's going to be inside the aircraft instead of outside where it should be. 238 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,000 And you're not going to see this guy, and that's how mid-air collisions happen. 239 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,380 So it actually is creating more distractions in the cockpit as well. 240 00:12:58,380 --> 00:13:02,320 So I think that ADSB, if it's going to be required, it actually should be required in 241 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,840 more locations and more places. 242 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,000 And I don't know if the FAA has a plan for that eventually. 243 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,000 I'm sure they have a plan to expand that system because it does a lot of good. 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,920 But it should be expanded into every charted practice area as far as I'm concerned. 245 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,600 I mean, that's a personal opinion. 246 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,500 And then it's not reflective of anything, the FAA or any flight instructor. 247 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:27,580 By the way, that's only representative of my feelings, by the way. 248 00:13:27,580 --> 00:13:31,280 It's not representative of any flight school or the FAA or anything else. 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,480 It could be like a hot button topic, and I don't even know. 250 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,400 But it's a hot button for me because I want more safety out there. 251 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,760 I want people to be safer when they fly, and I want flight instructors to teach safety. 252 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,200 And I want to be safer in the air. 253 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,840 So I think ADSB is a great tool when it comes to that. 254 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,680 But sometimes it's a little overused. 255 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:54,000 Just like I've seen, I've been in airplanes and people have like five iPads on an airplane. 256 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,480 I'm like, that's a bit too much. 257 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,480 You can tone it down. 258 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,840 You can take an iPad and take your cell phone and make sure four flights downloaded on it. 259 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,080 And there's a good backup for you in addition to your paper charts, of course. 260 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,080 Yeah. 261 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Well, you know, Brand said it's not representative of anything but his opinion. 262 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,440 It's also representative of mine, though. 263 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,720 I've been saved by that ADSB more times than I can count going into Lake Matthews practice 264 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,760 area, especially right next to Riverside Airport and SoCal. 265 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,120 That is a busy, busy practice area. 266 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,720 And like he said, you shouldn't have your head down in the cockpit just staring at your 267 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,840 iPad. 268 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,880 But it's always a good thing to be able to just look out. 269 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,680 And that is be especially in conjunction with your iPad lets you see farther than your eyes 270 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,680 can. 271 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,480 So it helps keep you safe. 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,840 And you know, frequently as we talk about the safety of pilots and passengers, in my 273 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,040 eyes, ADSB is really one of the best features pilots can have to increase that safety and 274 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:54,160 understanding, especially understanding and using ADSB effectively is crucial for modern 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,160 pilots. 276 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,600 It's the up and coming technology. 277 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,640 And as this technology continues to be adopted globally, it's going to play an increasingly 278 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,040 significant role in maintaining the safety and efficiency of air traffic. 279 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,720 So being familiar with its operation benefits and knowing how to interpret the information 280 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,920 it provides, it's going to be a key skill for pilots in this ADSB area. 281 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,000 So whether you're a student pilot just starting your journey or an experienced aviator, we 282 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,640 really hope this episode has given you a better understanding of this revolutionary technology. 283 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,400 Yeah, I think it kind of has. 284 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Obviously, we just did a really high overview of ADSB and kind of just touched on some little 285 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,840 components of it. 286 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,840 I really suggest everybody go out and actually, if you go on Google and you type in FAA ADSB, 287 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,280 you'll get to see there's advisory circulars and there's a lot of documents that talk about 288 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,680 ADSB in and out. 289 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,640 And especially it's on the FAA's website, which is where you should be getting your 290 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,800 information in the first place. 291 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,960 But I suggest that everybody goes and looks at where ADSB is required and see if it's 292 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,320 also required in the places that you fly most often. 293 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:04,000 So you can know if you are relying a little too much on that ADSB into your iPad or if 294 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,320 you're actually improving your safety or hindering it. 295 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,920 People don't really think about that usually when they're flying. 296 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,440 They just think of, hey, this thing's in my cockpit and it's obviously making me a better 297 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,440 pilot. 298 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,040 And unfortunately, that's not always true. 299 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,900 So make sure you kind of think about those things and really think through it. 300 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:23,520 So thank you guys so much for listening today. 301 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,560 We enjoyed talking about some ADSB and I love talking about my charts, of course. 302 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,680 But if you'd like to reach out to either one of us or correct something that one of us 303 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,640 said today, please reach out to us. 304 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:42,960 You can reach us via email, Brandon at aviationmentors.com or you can reach Carson at Carson at aviationmentors.com. 305 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,880 And as a wrap up for the day, remember, we're here to guide you in your aviation journey. 306 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,040 So fly safe and enjoy the ride. 307 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,680 See ya.