1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,880 Welcome back to Tales from the Service Industry. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,560 We hope you enjoyed part one of Life's Bookmarks 3 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:07,400 and know you will enjoy part two. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,400 So let's get to it. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,500 Well, you know, speaking of social media, 6 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:15,600 I heard that we got some listeners 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,640 that actually shot some questions for you. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,480 We do. 9 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,560 We have a couple of Facebook questions for you. 10 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,400 All right. 11 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,220 The first one is, 12 00:00:22,220 --> 00:00:25,120 what is most rewarding about being a tattoo artist? 13 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,880 There are a few things for me. 14 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,400 I think having been an artistic and a creative person 15 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,040 my entire life, like as long as I could hold a Crayola, 16 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,840 the goal for me was to always do art for a living. 17 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,320 So the fact that I get to do that with this medium 18 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,840 that a lot more people are appreciating now 19 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,640 and it's keeping me busy and I'm able to sustain a living, 20 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,800 that is incredible and I'm very grateful for that. 21 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,600 I also get a lot of clients who, 22 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,340 you can tell they're kind of going through something 23 00:00:51,340 --> 00:00:53,740 when they come in and see me for the tattoo therapy, 24 00:00:53,740 --> 00:00:56,620 if you will, and seeing the transformation 25 00:00:56,620 --> 00:00:58,620 from when they walk in to when they walk out, 26 00:00:58,620 --> 00:01:00,620 that is the most gratifying thing 27 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:03,640 because you can just see the confidence boost 28 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 or whatever energy that they were holding onto 29 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,400 that was just kind of icky, 30 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,880 just completely leaves their body 31 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,600 and they're like a whole new person when they leave. 32 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,160 That's incredible to have that ability 33 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,000 to do that for someone. 34 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,840 I'm not gonna get emotional about it. 35 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,680 That's amazing. 36 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,680 Yeah, I've heard so many people just tell me 37 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,360 that tattoos are so healing 38 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,520 and I think coming from a background like mine, 39 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,240 where I've always just wanted to help people, 40 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,800 it's crazy that I'm able to do that with both art 41 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,480 and then just making somebody feel good 42 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,400 overall during the session. 43 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,240 That's amazing. 44 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,080 Yeah, it's been great. 45 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,120 I love it. 46 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,380 Or to some, just a scratch they needed itched. 47 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Me, I think. 48 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,080 That's her. 49 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Or the itch they needed scratched. 50 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,800 There you go. 51 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Oh, okay, whatever. 52 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,560 It's okay, we all knew what you meant. 53 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,720 I even thought about that 54 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,920 and I thought I was going somewhere. 55 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,760 That's too funny. 56 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Just blame it on the red. 57 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,360 Yeah, I blame that one on the grape juice. 58 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,160 All right, you have another Facebook question 59 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,520 from one of our listeners. 60 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,360 I do. 61 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Have you ever done a tattoo and the client has hated it? 62 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,120 I personally have not. 63 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,160 I am very grateful because, man, 64 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,720 I'm not gonna sit here and bullshit anybody. 65 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,240 I try to be as completely transparent as possible. 66 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,520 There's a level of nervousness 67 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,440 going into a tattoo every time. 68 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,360 Every single one? 69 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Every single one 70 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,120 because it's permanent 71 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,200 and that always sits on the back of my mind. 72 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,040 So I personally have not. 73 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:36,040 I have worked with people from the old shop and woof. 74 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,680 All right. 75 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,000 All right. 76 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,240 There was, oh gosh, I can still see it. 77 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,240 I wish I had the photo to show you guys 78 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,240 but I'm not trying to bash this person or this artwork 79 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,480 but you can just tell when a tattoo is not great. 80 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,920 It was a wolf and it just was not great. 81 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,560 It was so bad. 82 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,120 It looked like, I don't even know how to explain it 83 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,360 but it took up the whole shoulder. 84 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Oh. 85 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,800 So not only was it a bad tattoo 86 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,280 but it was on a big portion that's visible. 87 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,360 A lot of time. 88 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Yeah and I had kind of heard the aftermath 89 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,560 and the fallout after the session 90 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,880 and you have to take accountability as an artist. 91 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Was it the guest's fault? 92 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,520 What do you? 93 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,360 Client. 94 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,180 Client. 95 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:24,020 No and here's the thing. 96 00:03:24,020 --> 00:03:27,800 So having been a barber and having, 97 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,120 now being a tattoo artist, 98 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,120 I am a full believer that if you as the artist 99 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,000 are not getting the answers that you need 100 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,280 to create the piece that the client is looking for. 101 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,200 You shouldn't do it. 102 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Not that but you need to be asking the right questions. 103 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,840 Like a consultation will go so far 104 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,640 so you've got to be in depth and make sure you are 105 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,200 on the same page with your client. 106 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,080 This was just more a matter of the application of the tattoo 107 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,080 because going back to you can be a great artist 108 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,160 but a really shitty tattooer. 109 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,920 You have to know your fundamentals 110 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,560 in order to approach the tattoo 111 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,680 because there's so many things that could go wrong 112 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,020 and in this case the skin was very much overworked. 113 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:06,000 The application was just bad. 114 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,280 The technique was bad. 115 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,440 And with a piece that size the only thing you can do 116 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,480 at that point before you've been doing a cover up 117 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,560 is to go get laser. 118 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,340 So now you're looking into more money 119 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:18,240 just to fix the problem. 120 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,000 When as somebody who's been a client for the past 16 years 121 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,980 you really need to research your artists. 122 00:04:23,980 --> 00:04:25,920 Like dive deep into their Instagram, 123 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,880 dive deep into their Yelp reviews, their Google reviews. 124 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Like really make sure that they're going to give quality 125 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,600 work because unfortunately with YouTube 126 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,400 and having as many resources out there and Amazon. 127 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,940 I'm kind of back and forth with Amazon 128 00:04:43,940 --> 00:04:45,840 but I don't think just anybody should be able 129 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:48,560 to buy a tattoo machine and just go at it. 130 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,480 So you have a lot of these people who are like 131 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,640 I'm a tattoo artist, blah, blah, blah. 132 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,800 And they have no training. 133 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 But they just bought a gun on Amazon 134 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,520 and you're going crazy with it. 135 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Anybody at this table right now 136 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:03,400 you could pull up your Amazon and type in tattoo machine 137 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,320 and they'll have tattoo kits where it comes 138 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,040 with inks, needles, stencils. 139 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,320 But you still don't know. 140 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,640 How is that legal? 141 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,480 I don't know. 142 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,400 I just get freaked out over like the cleanliness too. 143 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,600 I would not even know where to start. 144 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,840 I think the biggest part of it, 145 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:21,840 like if your tattoo environment is not like close to 146 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,880 if not as sterile as like a medical office, 147 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,320 you should not be getting tattoos. 148 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,720 I was gonna say a hospital. 149 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Yeah, because there's so many things that can go wrong. 150 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,360 You can get something called cellulitis. 151 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,440 I was just about to tell you that. 152 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,920 That will not that you didn't know that. 153 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,640 But that happened to my husband. 154 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:37,480 It's happened to me before too. 155 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,160 He got cellulitis and a giant tattoo on his cat. 156 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,480 I've never even heard of this. 157 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Yeah, the big tattoo of Donald Duck on his cat. 158 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,480 I have to see this tattoo. 159 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,480 Donald Duck is great. 160 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Big tattoo on his cat. 161 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,200 He got, we were at a reputable shop. 162 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Like down in San Diego, we were there on vacation 163 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,480 and we went to a reputable shop. 164 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,320 But of course it was like, 165 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,520 what is that black Friday or of tattoos? 166 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,720 Friday the 13th. 167 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,360 So all the tattoos were on sale or whatever 168 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,200 and we thought it was good. 169 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,640 But he got so gnarly infected. 170 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,920 It got cellulitis. 171 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,360 He got a crazy fever. 172 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,680 He had to go to the hospital. 173 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Had to get hospitalized over a tattoo. 174 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,240 They can get that bad. 175 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,000 But what is this, just an infection? 176 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,040 Yeah, it's an infection. 177 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 So just to kind of give like a quick overview, 178 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,600 when you're tattooing, like everything needs to be sterile. 179 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,840 Like I won't touch anything that's on my setup 180 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,920 if I'm not wearing gloves. 181 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,040 And anything that you do touch on the setup, 182 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:28,920 if you're wearing gloves, 183 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,200 you need to throw those gloves away 184 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,880 before you can go touch anything else 185 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,200 because you're cross contaminating with blood 186 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,920 and people don't really think of that 187 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,080 because the blood molecules are essentially so tiny, 188 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,040 you can't see them. 189 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,000 But there's blood splatter, it's going. 190 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,280 All different types of ways. 191 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,560 Yeah, there's a lot of things that can go wrong. 192 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Are you convinced to get a tattoo now, Bill? 193 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,160 Oh yeah. 194 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,640 There's actually a video out there 195 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,440 that I had just watched recently 196 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,960 and it was super interesting. 197 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Somebody had a black light on while they were tattooing. 198 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,840 To like see what's really going on. 199 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,760 The spray coming off and it's very fine. 200 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,800 It's more like a mist, 201 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,440 but it's definitely getting kicked up and whatnot. 202 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,640 But yeah, like everything I use to clean 203 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,480 is a medical grade disinfectant. 204 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,680 And it gets cleaned before 205 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,360 and it gets cleaned right after the tattoo 206 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,640 because the last thing you wanna do is infect someone. 207 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Like the infection I had on my leg tattoo got so bad, 208 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,720 my ankle swelled up to the size of a softball. 209 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,560 Oh my gosh. 210 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,920 And this is gonna sound really gross, so trigger warning. 211 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,720 But I literally lost like probably an inch or two of skin 212 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,200 that just completely fell off from the tattoo. 213 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,160 And it wasn't because, you know, 214 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,880 like the tattoo looks fine now, 215 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,360 but it just, it was so gross. 216 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,600 It was so bad. 217 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Dang. 218 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,560 That's why I say research your artists, 219 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,400 like make sure they are being clean, 220 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,360 make sure that the shop is reputable, 221 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,840 make sure that they are reputable. 222 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,240 Cause sometimes you can even have the one 223 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,040 that slips kind of under the radar 224 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,880 that gets into a reputable shop 225 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,720 and they themselves aren't necessarily 226 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,840 practicing the proper health precautions. 227 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,920 And I love learning this from you 228 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,400 with what we should be looking for too 229 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,360 when you're talking about not touching certain things 230 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,520 and changing your gloves. 231 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Like I had no idea of those things. 232 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Yeah, like I don't know if you noticed 233 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,400 when I was tattooing you, but like anytime I would, 234 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,120 you know, have to like move my ring light 235 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,120 even if I touched that with, you know, 236 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,640 I wasn't even touching that with a glove. 237 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,480 I would take the glove off and then move it. 238 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,840 And then put a new glove on. 239 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Wow. 240 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Yeah. 241 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,720 This is bringing me back to like my first aid 242 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,960 instructor course. 243 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,920 I know, right? 244 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,840 Yeah, but there's so many things that could go wrong. 245 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Like in order to legally be a tattoo artist in the state, 246 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,160 I know it's a lot different for different states, 247 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,400 but in this one specifically, 248 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,120 you have to go through a bloodborne pathogen training 249 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,840 and then you have to go register your certificate 250 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,840 with the health department 251 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,520 so that they know where you're working at. 252 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,400 But wait, if you just go buy one off Amazon, 253 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,960 you don't have to do that. 254 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,080 Exactly. 255 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,920 You shouldn't be able to buy one. 256 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:41,760 That's so twisted. 257 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,600 That's what I'm saying. 258 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Like, and there's even like certain ink companies 259 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,600 like that I order from and they will not ship to my house. 260 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,720 They have to ship to a shop that is registered and licensed. 261 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,560 That's good. 262 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,480 Yeah, so those are like the more reputable companies, 263 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,600 which is great because they're covering their own asses, 264 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,640 but the Amazon companies like in my opinion, 265 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,800 and you know, at the end of the day, 266 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:01,960 my opinion doesn't really matter. 267 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 If you're selling machines on Amazon to anybody, 268 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,680 at that point, I think you're just trying to make a profit, 269 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:08,920 but what you're doing in return 270 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,000 is you're over saturating the industry 271 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,040 and artists that are like- 272 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,960 With Wahoos. 273 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,840 Exactly, and artists that are like quality artists 274 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,800 are kind of getting lost in that whole sea of just, 275 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,480 in the industry, we call them scratchers. 276 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,400 So a scratcher is somebody who is, 277 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,360 I don't wanna say self-taught, 278 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,000 but just practices on themselves, 279 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,120 practices on their friends, 280 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,640 doesn't go through an apprenticeship. 281 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,000 You know, it's, I don't wanna call it gatekeeping, 282 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,240 but you know, something like this, 283 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 you really have to gatekeep certain things 284 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,440 and it's not to be an asshole, 285 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,160 it's just to make sure that you're not- 286 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Because there isn't a specific school, 287 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,160 you know, that you can go to, 288 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,800 like when you wanna be a hairstylist, 289 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,640 you go to a school. 290 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,460 I just learned this though, 291 00:09:43,460 --> 00:09:45,920 in Oregon, if you wanna be a tattoo artist, 292 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,480 I think, don't quote me on this, 293 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,000 but you definitely do have to go through schooling 294 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 before you can even become licensed. 295 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,480 So it's dependent on the state 296 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,280 and what their health department is, 297 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,440 but yeah, there's just so many people. 298 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,000 I mean, at least some, like you said, 299 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,680 the blood path, I can't even say that word, 300 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,000 blood pathogen training. 301 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Bloodborne pathogen. 302 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,520 Oh my gosh. 303 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,560 Miss, what is it? 304 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:07,400 Jesus. 305 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,280 The instructor of the, I can't even, 306 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,400 line guys, line. 307 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,080 But even to go through that training 308 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,120 and reducing risk of infection, 309 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,160 like that's huge. Exactly. 310 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,320 And it's in depth and like the bloodborne pathogen training 311 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,040 that is accepted by the health department 312 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,240 in the state of California, 313 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,200 it's only certain courses that are actually accepted 314 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,040 by the health department. 315 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,800 Like Red Cross, American Heart Association. 316 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,160 There's a few of them, 317 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,840 they're all registered on the website, 318 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,320 but it is, the course I think took me like, 319 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,360 like a whole day to get through, 320 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,840 just to like read through all the information. 321 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,000 And then. 322 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,280 So you didn't just click through? 323 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,520 I hope that was a test. 324 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Good for you. 325 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,640 There was a test and I passed it with flying colors. 326 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Way to go. 327 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,640 I find like microbiology and stuff like that 328 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,040 very interesting. 329 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,080 And also, like I said, 330 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,440 I don't want to give somebody like a gnarly infection. 331 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,400 No. 332 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,440 Oh, I would cry. 333 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,720 I would just sit at home and cry 334 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,520 and reassess my entire life. 335 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Well, mine healed amazingly. 336 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:02,400 I'm glad. 337 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,480 I'm glad. 338 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,320 Yeah, yours was fun. 339 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,840 It was like all dainty and fine line. 340 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,680 I love it. 341 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:07,520 It was fun. 342 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,340 I mean, Kim confirmed, 343 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:09,180 you did not tattoo me, 344 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:10,960 but mine healed so easily. 345 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Nice. 346 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,800 We've got qualified people 347 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,880 and our little shop fam, 348 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,720 thank God. 349 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Yeah. 350 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:16,520 I love it. 351 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,000 Everyone's great and I absolutely love it. 352 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,080 I'm constantly learning something new from all of them. 353 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,920 So. 354 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,740 That's so cool. 355 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:22,580 And everybody leaves happy, 356 00:11:22,580 --> 00:11:23,420 which is awesome. 357 00:11:23,420 --> 00:11:24,240 Like we, 358 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,880 I don't think we've really had any disgruntled clients 359 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:26,840 leaving the shop. 360 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:27,680 That's amazing. 361 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:28,520 At least since I've been there, 362 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,360 but. 363 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Your shop too has been reputable for a really long time. 364 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Cause that's actually where I got my first tattoo 365 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,000 when I was 18 years old. 366 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,840 At our location. 367 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:36,680 Cause we do have another location. 368 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:38,080 No, I got it at the other location. 369 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,760 So the shop as a whole, 370 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,480 I believe has been around for about 20 plus years. 371 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Wow. 372 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,140 Yeah. 373 00:11:44,140 --> 00:11:44,980 Very reputable. 374 00:11:44,980 --> 00:11:45,880 We have a guy that works with us 375 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,760 and he's been tattooing as long as I've been alive. 376 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,600 So. 377 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,440 Wow. 378 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Yeah. 379 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,100 Yeah. 380 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:51,940 It's great. 381 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:52,780 They're legit. 382 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:53,620 Well, Kim probably confirmed, 383 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:54,920 not that I'm reading into the future, 384 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,080 but we'll probably be back. 385 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Please do. 386 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,740 Oh, 100%. 387 00:11:57,740 --> 00:11:59,880 We absolutely had such a blast with you guys. 388 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,720 Oh my God. 389 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,560 Yeah. 390 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:02,400 Even when you guys left, 391 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,760 I was like, they were so much fun for our listeners. 392 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 It was a group of us girls that all decided 393 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,200 we wanted to get this, a tattoo. 394 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,280 And we just took over this one shop and we're like, 395 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,120 we did. 396 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,040 And all the tattoo artists tattooed us like at once. 397 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,880 It was great. 398 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,700 Yeah. 399 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:16,540 It was definitely fun. 400 00:12:16,540 --> 00:12:17,380 And like, I loved seeing you guys. 401 00:12:17,380 --> 00:12:18,560 It was a good energy. 402 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,800 It was such a good energy in the whole shop at the time. 403 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,640 It was awesome. 404 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,260 Cause like we were seeing you guys pop over 405 00:12:23,260 --> 00:12:24,420 from station to station, 406 00:12:24,420 --> 00:12:25,920 checking on your guys's tattoos. 407 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,960 And I was like, I love this. 408 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Okay. 409 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,640 I gotta ask. 410 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,460 Okay. 411 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:32,960 Can we just descend on the shop again as a gaggle? 412 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Can we do like a remote podcast? 413 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,240 We can, we can. 414 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Yes. 415 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,920 Ooh. 416 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,740 Let's do it. 417 00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:40,840 And like just record all of you guys as the. 418 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,640 I don't know if we'll be getting matching tattoos again, 419 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,840 but yes. 420 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,760 We can all go have tattoos. 421 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,720 I can talk to the guys. 422 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,280 I think we could for sure set that up. 423 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Oh my God. 424 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,260 Cause I'm constantly telling them like, 425 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:53,560 we should do a tattoo podcast. 426 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:57,000 Like, cause I tattoo so many different people. 427 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,700 Like for instance, I get a lot of like the young crowd, 428 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:02,040 but then like one of the people you could interview. 429 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Oh my gosh. 430 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,940 There's so many, like one of my oldest, you know, 431 00:13:04,940 --> 00:13:06,960 age wise clients, she's 58. 432 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,400 She just started her tattoo journey pretty heavily 433 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 last year with me and she's a hoot. 434 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Like I love her. 435 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,140 I absolutely love her. 436 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:16,280 And then I get the people who are like working 437 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,720 what I call big people jobs, 438 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,640 like they're paralegals for like high end. 439 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Big people jobs. 440 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Yeah. 441 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,240 They have real jobs quote unquote, 442 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,040 but yeah, I've heard that so many times. 443 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Why don't you get a real job? 444 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,520 I'm like, I have a real job. 445 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,680 It's just fun. 446 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:29,720 It's a real paycheck. 447 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,560 Okay. 448 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:31,380 I know. 449 00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:32,220 I was like, it's just fun. 450 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:33,480 You guys wouldn't know anything about that, but. 451 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,640 I could pay it as much as you. 452 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,920 I'm just more fulfilled. 453 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Yeah. I was about to say, 454 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,840 you're probably happier than most of these people in there. 455 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,480 And you make your own hours. 456 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,400 Yeah. And it's crazy. 457 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,500 Like I have a nephew and he's like really artistic 458 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:45,340 and whatnot. 459 00:13:45,340 --> 00:13:47,200 He was on spring break and he, you know, 460 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,000 he was hanging at home by himself and I was like, 461 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Hey, do you want to come hang out at the shop? 462 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Cause we're a family shop, you know? 463 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,640 So he came down with us and got to see how everything ran. 464 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,880 He actually was put into one of the artists, 465 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,320 Tik Toks, which he was super geeked on. 466 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,520 And then he's like sitting there drawing with me. 467 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,320 And he like looks up and he's all, 468 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,640 is this all you guys do all day? 469 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Like you guys just eat donuts and draw and do Tik Toks 470 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,800 and do tattoos. 471 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,640 I was like, yeah, pretty much. 472 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,120 You know what's so funny when we went and got our tattoos, 473 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,120 you guys had like two boxes of donuts on the table. 474 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,400 The donuts are never ending. 475 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 So we work right next door to it. 476 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Like when that's the other great thing about our shop is 477 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,480 we're building relationships with the businesses around us. 478 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,040 And it's a great location. 479 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,880 It's awesome. 480 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:28,920 I absolutely love it. 481 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,480 But yeah, the girl next door, she loves us so much. 482 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,200 She'll just bring us over mochi donuts. 483 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,400 And I'm like, girl, stop. 484 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,520 Like stop, but don't. 485 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,960 And then we'll just have like boxes 486 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,200 and we're like sending them home with clients. 487 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Oh, that's so nice. 488 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,880 That's awesome. 489 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,100 I'm like, you guys want to take a box? 490 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:43,940 We got plenty. 491 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:44,780 Like, please take them. 492 00:14:44,780 --> 00:14:45,880 You're doing us a favor. 493 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,320 You had some in the back. 494 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Yes. 495 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,000 We were eyeing them too. 496 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,400 We were like, are these for us? 497 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,360 You should have said something. 498 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,080 I would have been like, shit, take two, take five. 499 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Oh my God, next time, next time. 500 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,440 Yeah, take it. 501 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,680 They're delicious. 502 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,080 We probably needed the donuts. 503 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,160 They're so tasty. 504 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Love donuts. 505 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,840 I love it. 506 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,640 Like you can't go wrong with a tattoo and a donut. 507 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,520 And if you say no, like you can, then I can't trust you. 508 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,360 So you can. 509 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,180 Oh my God. 510 00:15:10,180 --> 00:15:11,020 We wouldn't say yes. 511 00:15:11,020 --> 00:15:11,840 Okay, so we're going to do a remote pod 512 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,440 from the tattoo shop and Bill's going to get 513 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,520 his first tattoo. 514 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Oh, yes. 515 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,140 What the hell? 516 00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:17,980 I think he volunteered for that. 517 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:18,820 Yes. 518 00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:19,640 No, I just said, no, that one. 519 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,640 It can be something small. 520 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,480 Tiny. 521 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,580 What if it's a henna tattoo? 522 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,480 That way there's no commitment to it. 523 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Not possibly. 524 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,120 Cool. 525 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,880 Something small and dainty. 526 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,200 I like my virgin skin. 527 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,020 On your butt. 528 00:15:32,020 --> 00:15:32,860 Get like, no entry. 529 00:15:32,860 --> 00:15:33,700 We can kiss this. 530 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:34,520 No entry. 531 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,040 I've definitely seen like lower back tattoos 532 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,200 that say exit only and those make me cackle every time. 533 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Yeah, that's fine. 534 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,720 I've seen some interesting sexual innuendo tattoos. 535 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Love them. 536 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Which, you know, that's actually one of my questions for you. 537 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:48,820 Okay. 538 00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:51,800 Is what is the craziest tattoo you've been requested to do? 539 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Okay, there was a gal that walked in. 540 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,480 I'm pretty sure she was intoxicated, 541 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,760 but I will never forget her. 542 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,120 Like I will be in the old folks home, 543 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,200 just senile as shit and be like, 544 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,800 laughing about this. 545 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,660 She wanted above her, above her kuka, 546 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:10,600 she wanted the words, open 24 seven, all you can eat. 547 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,440 Oh my god. 548 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,280 All you can eat. 549 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Oh my god. 550 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,920 And it, you know, I, at that point. 551 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Like what, on lower abdomen? 552 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Like right above her kuka. 553 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Okay. 554 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Absolutely. 555 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,720 And I was like, can you imagine being whoever the person is 556 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 that, you know, is about to go into uncharted territory? 557 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,440 Can you imagine that surprise? 558 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,760 But there was nothing uncharted about that territory. 559 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,700 But like, shouldn't that be a warning? 560 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:37,200 Like, hey, I've got a tattoo. 561 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,320 It's a little awkward. 562 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,920 No, that's a rip cord moment. 563 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,760 Really? 564 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,580 Oh yeah. 565 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:42,420 Oh my god. 566 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:43,760 Well, actually, wait, wait, wait. 567 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,600 You know what? 568 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,420 Maybe not. 569 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:47,240 Because if that's the type of person 570 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 that is like the demographic, 571 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,480 then that person probably would be cool with that. 572 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Oh, for sure. 573 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,900 Yeah, but I cackled. 574 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:55,480 Like I have to be professional, you know, 575 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,760 but I just cannot hold it in. 576 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,280 And I started busting up and I was like, 577 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,480 darling, I think you are a little too far 578 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,960 under the influence right now. 579 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,800 If you still want this tattoo tomorrow, please come back. 580 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,640 Yeah. 581 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,460 Because I will do it. 582 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:07,680 I think this is hilarious. 583 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,300 I love funny tattoos. 584 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:10,760 I like have no problem doing it. 585 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,840 That's why whenever someone's like, 586 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,080 is this a stupid tattoo? 587 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,420 I'm like, dude, I have a whole Jurassic Park tattoo. 588 00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:16,840 Like you should not be asking me. 589 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Cause I'm like, yeah, send it. 590 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,360 I would have the same response. 591 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:21,200 Let's do it. 592 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Is this what you want? 593 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,040 Sure. 594 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,880 Yeah. Run it. 595 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,000 We'll freaking run it right now. 596 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,320 So did she come back the next day? 597 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,160 She didn't. 598 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,800 That's why I'll remember her. 599 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Cause she broke the like tiny little Grinch heart 600 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,640 that I have. 601 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,080 I'm like, I was so stoked. 602 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,200 I was like just standing, like waiting by the door. 603 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Like, is she going to come in? 604 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Oh. 605 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,960 I mean, I would still be down to do that tattoo. 606 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,200 So I was open to it, but. 607 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,960 Kind woman wanting this tattoo. 608 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,720 If you're listening, please come back. 609 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,560 I miss you. 610 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,160 You broke my heart. 611 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Oh my God. 612 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Was it me? 613 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,160 I love it. 614 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,480 That was her way of breaking up with you. 615 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,840 The audacity, the gumption, the gall and the audacity. 616 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Oh my God. 617 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Oh man. 618 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,800 What's the most offensive tattoo you've ever been asked 619 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,480 to do or to cover up? 620 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,040 I have been asked to do like Nazi symbols on people, 621 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,280 which again, like I do not condone. 622 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,720 I have like my personal beliefs with that. 623 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,320 And ironically, I've also been asked to cover up those tattoos, 624 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,760 which I have no problem doing. 625 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,400 I think, you know, it's great that people have the ability 626 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,240 to change. 627 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,000 And if that's going to be something that's 628 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,040 going to help them get further along in that journey, 629 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,080 then I would be more than willing to cover that up for them. 630 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,960 I've definitely covered up a lot of names though. 631 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Again, this is why I do not do the significant other names 632 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,480 because I've covered those up plenty. 633 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,600 I think that's actually the most requested cover up I get. 634 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Like white supremacist or racist? 635 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,240 No, the names. 636 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,040 Oh, names though. 637 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Yeah. 638 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,600 Significant other names. 639 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,520 It could still be white supremacist. 640 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Yeah, it could be. 641 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:53,880 You never know. 642 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,560 But yeah, that's why I'm like, are you sure? 643 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,720 Like how much do you really love your partner? 644 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,440 Have you done face tattoos? 645 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,480 Yes, actually. 646 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,760 I did a really small like star under somebody's eye. 647 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,480 That was actually one of the first tattoos 648 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,200 I've done on a client as an apprentice. 649 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Wow. 650 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,320 Yeah, my mentor really threw me in the snake pit. 651 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,440 He was like, figure it out. 652 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,360 I was like. 653 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:16,440 That's on their face. 654 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,680 I was like, good sir. 655 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,840 No. 656 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,480 OK, wait. 657 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,640 On that note, I have a question. 658 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,200 I have seen that trend of people tattooing 659 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,480 the sclera of their eye, the whites of their eyes. 660 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,960 Oh, god. 661 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,920 That's got to be a different kind of tattoo. 662 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,760 It is. 663 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,280 They do like glow in the dark inks and stuff. 664 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,680 It's bizarre looking. 665 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,880 Here's the issue with that. 666 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,800 So you have to take into consideration 667 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,440 that that is not a true like when 668 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,880 I say traditional style of tattooing, 669 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,000 you're not going in with a needle in a machine 670 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,520 to do that. 671 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,200 Into skin. 672 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,480 You're actually going in with a hypodermic needle 673 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,960 and you're injecting the ink under the membrane. 674 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,040 So I know. 675 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:51,400 I'm sorry. 676 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,720 You're getting freaked out. 677 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Yes. 678 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,320 So unfortunately, as cool as they look, 679 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,120 because I can also appreciate somebody 680 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,640 with their eyeballs tattooed, I think 681 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,560 it looks really good when it's done well. 682 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,720 There is an incredibly high risk of going blind, 683 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,240 like incredibly high. 684 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,200 That makes sense. 685 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,880 I have a friend who had a friend who got hers done 686 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,560 and I think she was blind in her right eye for about three 687 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,040 or four weeks before she regained back partial vision. 688 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,240 And it's because you can't really control how far the ink 689 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,840 spreads. 690 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,600 I don't do them. 691 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,160 That's actually a different style of body modification. 692 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,000 And a lot of body modifications like that 693 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,640 are actually technically illegal. 694 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,720 As they should be. 695 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,320 There are still people who do them, but teach their own. 696 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,600 I think they look cool, though. 697 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,120 I mean, for all those who have these crazy one-off ideas 698 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:39,880 of body modification, they can find someone in the world 699 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,920 that will do it. 700 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,360 There is a foot for every foot. 701 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:45,080 Sure. 702 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,400 You're cut off. 703 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,760 We're not talking about like, canes. 704 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,320 No matter what you want done, you can find someone. 705 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,840 And that's something I always tell people, 706 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,600 just because I'm telling you. 707 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,600 Because I've turned down projects plenty of times. 708 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Even tattoos. 709 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840 I won't do it, but you can probably find someone who will. 710 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,280 Exactly. 711 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,720 And I'm like, even if I know that. 712 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,560 It's just isn't for me. 713 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,120 There's also been projects that I've 714 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,600 asked to do where it's probably not in my style, 715 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,400 or it's not something like a subject matter 716 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,440 that I necessarily tattoo a lot. 717 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,280 And therefore, I'm just not wanting to take on that project. 718 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,640 If I know an artist that will do that project justice, 719 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,000 I have no problem referring the client to that person. 720 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Especially if it's in your same shop, 721 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,640 and that guy is sitting right next to you, 722 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,280 and he's free for the next two hours. 723 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,880 Yeah, why not? 724 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,520 That's the great thing about the tattoo industry, 725 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,640 is it's fairly small. 726 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,480 So everybody kind of knows everybody. 727 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,520 So even if it's somebody not in our shop directly, 728 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 like if it's somebody that's a close personal friend of mine, 729 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,680 or an artist that's tattooed me personally, 730 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,080 I'll shoot them the information. 731 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,920 I'm fully on board with artists, supporting artists. 732 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,040 Because this is a hard industry to really get your footing in. 733 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,440 And that is good karma that will come back. 734 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,120 I'm hoping so, because Lord only knows I need it. 735 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:00,000 Yeah, but that's not so much just good karma. 736 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,520 It's establishing your reputation. 737 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,920 True, very true. 738 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,800 It's the integrity. 739 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,360 It's that part that's so hard to build, 740 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:06,520 but so easy to destroy. 741 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Yeah, and that's kind of what I was going back to 742 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,640 on the industry being oversaturated with the people 743 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,960 who are really just in this to make a profit. 744 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,640 And to be fair, I don't want to discredit anybody 745 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,320 in their pricing, but we do have to make a living, 746 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,080 and we do have to eat just like anybody else. 747 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,800 But there are people that will take full on advantage of that. 748 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,400 And I was talking to you guys about this earlier 749 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,920 with the tattoo gate right now on TikTok. 750 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,600 This poor woman got completely bamboozled. 751 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,760 It went viral, the artist herself was called out, 752 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,760 other people that were involved got called out. 753 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,120 And it just overall, I think, built a distrust 754 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,600 between client and artist, 755 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,040 because now there's a lot of people 756 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600 who are potential clients that will question 757 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,440 why my pricing is the way it is, 758 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,880 or why the person next to me has different pricing. 759 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,760 And like I said, we're independent contractors, 760 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,880 so charge what you think you are worth, 761 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,240 but also be reasonable about it. 762 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Because if you're gonna get greedy, 763 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,400 that will come back and bite you. 764 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Dang. 765 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,920 So that's a shame. 766 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000 There's people like that out there in every industry. 767 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,080 And do your research, research your artists, 768 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,440 research the shop, everything you said. 769 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Yeah, really dive deep into that wormhole, 770 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,200 because Lord only knows. 771 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200 Don't just walk into a tattoo shop and say, 772 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,200 hey, can I get this Chinese symbol on my butt for $30? 773 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,280 It says orange chicken. 774 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,360 It says happiness. 775 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,320 No, it really says orange chicken or kung fu. 776 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Something like off the wall. 777 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,280 Oh my gosh. 778 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,200 But this is a random one-off question. 779 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,160 Who sets like minimums? 780 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Is it you as the artist, or is it the shop as a whole? 781 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,080 So that's really dependent on the shop owner. 782 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Because everyone, like most shops do have a shop minimum, 783 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,280 and that'll be for like the small quick taxes. 784 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,120 Very small things. 785 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,840 Usually, I don't wanna speak as like a general, 786 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,320 but most of the time, 787 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,120 that's where the shop minimums fall into place. 788 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,400 No color, like nothing, bare minimum. 789 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,640 And then as the artist, 790 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,400 you're able to set your own pricing. 791 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,880 So everybody in the shop for like larger projects, 792 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,440 we do have different pricing, 793 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,680 but it's pretty similar to each other. 794 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,880 But you also have to keep in mind, 795 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,320 there's like artists that I work with 796 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,960 that have over 10 years experience in the industry. 797 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,320 And then there's artists like myself, 798 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,640 where I've only been doing this for just shy of three years. 799 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,400 So the pricing is also gonna kind of reflect that. 800 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960 And not to say that the quality of work is better, 801 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,360 one or the other. 802 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:26,760 I just feel like out of respect, 803 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760 I'm not trying to jump ahead. 804 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040 Like I'm really trying to earn that right 805 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,160 to charge that type of pricing. 806 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,000 So. That's really cool. 807 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Yeah. 808 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,840 And from what, at least in my experience, 809 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,440 and you can tell me if this is wrong or not, 810 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,520 the pricing can change based on like my husband, 811 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,240 he's like one of the most tattooed people that I know. 812 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,480 And then I guess you know. 813 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Um. 814 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Uh, this tattoo, he got it on his side 815 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,720 and the tattoo artist, oh yeah, 816 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,120 it's just gonna maybe take two sessions, 817 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,280 be X amount of time, it'll be this amount of money. 818 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,400 But the more he got into it, 819 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,640 and he did an amazing job, 820 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,920 it just was more intricate 821 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,680 than he really thought it was gonna be. 822 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,360 And it took a lot more time. 823 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:05,640 So it went up, cause you know, 824 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,680 he's taking all this time to do it. 825 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,160 I think in situations like that, 826 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,280 and again, this is me personally, 827 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,720 I'm not speaking for all artists, 828 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,540 as long as you're opening up that line of communication 829 00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:19,640 with your client and not just like springing it on them 830 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,720 at the end of the session. 831 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Like, hey, I know I said it was originally gonna be this, 832 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,600 but really it's gonna be much more. 833 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,440 Yeah. 834 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,880 You never wanna catch somebody off guard, 835 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,440 cause I feel like when that happens, 836 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,920 that's where you start to feel like maybe you're Sam. 837 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Bamboozled, yeah. 838 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Yeah. 839 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,340 So I think as long as you're open 840 00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:36,960 and having that conversation 841 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,780 and then working out the logistics of that, 842 00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:40,200 because also be understanding, 843 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,640 like the industry we're in, it's a luxury service. 844 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Yeah. 845 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,080 So it's gonna wind up costing more 846 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,600 for like the more intricate detail, 847 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,000 the placement even, because skin is different 848 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,780 on different parts of the body. 849 00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:54,160 You really just have to like stick with it 850 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,120 and like kind of come together and work that out 851 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,200 with your client. 852 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Yeah. 853 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560 But I don't agree with anybody just springing that on 854 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,400 very last minute. 855 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,720 Like, well, I was only expecting to pay this much, 856 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,680 cause I've had that happen to me before as a client. 857 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,520 Yeah. 858 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,340 Oof. 859 00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:09,520 So I didn't come prepared. 860 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,360 Right. 861 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,720 You know, so that threw me for a loop 862 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,560 and it just left a bad taste in my mouth. 863 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,400 I was like, why would you wait? 864 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,420 Like, I've been sitting with you for six hours 865 00:26:17,420 --> 00:26:20,000 and you're bringing this up now? 866 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Not cool. 867 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,500 Well, who knows what inspiration 868 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:24,880 like will spike during a session as well. 869 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,320 If you have a client that's giving you kind of free, 870 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,200 free forum on your creativity, like during the session, 871 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,640 like, hey, this is my idea, 872 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760 but like, I want you to flow and like go with it. 873 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Well, yeah, if it becomes more intricate and more detailed 874 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,520 for sure the pricing is gonna go up. 875 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,360 Cause you know what's funny? 876 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,000 That's kind of similar to what happened. 877 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,360 They were originally making this dark keyhole 878 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,240 in which then the character's silhouette 879 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,240 and this whole thing. 880 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,360 And the guy's like, you know what would be really cool? 881 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,880 If there was a skyline right here. 882 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480 And they were like collaborating 883 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,280 and making something new and more sick. 884 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,480 Like that's awesome. 885 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Like as long as you're, like I said, 886 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,160 keeping that open line of communication. 887 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,840 Like if you like this idea, it's gonna be X amount more. 888 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,680 Right. 889 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,880 Or we can keep with the original. 890 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,720 And I can totally understand 891 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,320 like getting this sudden burst of inspiration 892 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,100 to kind of add onto the piece during the session. 893 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:16,800 But I also feel like this is all stuff that ties back 894 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,360 into the initial consultation. 895 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,200 That's true. 896 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,020 You're so right. 897 00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,040 Yeah, because as the artist, 898 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,680 like you don't wanna be caught off guard. 899 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Like I always have reference photos 900 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,080 of whatever I'm tattooing. 901 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,440 And like I want it to look like I pulled it from the iPad 902 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,840 and put it on somebody. 903 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,680 Okay, yeah. 904 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,200 Where if I'm making last minute changes on the skin, 905 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,380 that's where things can kind of, you know, 906 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:38,580 get a little bit sketchy. 907 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:40,400 Like I wanna have a visual reference 908 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,400 of what I'm actually doing. 909 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Not just like drop it from my mind palace 910 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,080 onto somebody's skin, you know? 911 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,160 Cause that's where things start to go wrong sometimes. 912 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,520 And then you get a crazy wolf. 913 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,360 Yeah. 914 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,280 You know, I think people forget, you know, 915 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,040 you got that pricing triangle, right? 916 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,640 Where you can have it cheap, you can have it fast, 917 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,480 you have it good. 918 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,960 You can choose two. 919 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,360 So you can have it cheap and it's fast, 920 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:02,400 or it's, you know, it's good and it's quick. 921 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,880 You pay for what you're getting. 922 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,040 There is a common saying in the tattoo industry 923 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720 that good tattoos aren't cheap and cheap tattoos aren't good. 924 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840 And that applies to a lot of different service industries 925 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,880 also, like I think that applies like to when I was a barber, 926 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,440 people would question my prices with that. 927 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,440 And I'm like, well, you're not getting in and out of here 928 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,200 in 10 minutes like you would at a. 929 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Now think about the quality and I don't want to call out 930 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,400 directly, but maybe we can cut that. 931 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,760 We'll do beep cuts. 932 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Yeah. 933 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Any big box barber shop. 934 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Yeah, like any, you know, 935 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,760 franchise chain, chain barber shop, 936 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,080 where it's literally a chop shop. 937 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080 And their whole purpose is to turn people in and out. 938 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,760 Like I'm actually spending the time to tailor 939 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560 that specific service to that client. 940 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,160 And that's really important. 941 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,560 And I think that's what a lot of people tend to forget. 942 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280 That's usually why the pricing goes up 943 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320 and that's what you're getting with that pricing. 944 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,360 Did your clients get a beer during their service as well? 945 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,400 So at the barbershop that I worked at, 946 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600 we actually had a full beer bar in the back. 947 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Wow. 948 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,400 Like on tap everything the whole time. 949 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,640 Can girls go there? 950 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800 No, I had a lot of female clients 951 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,480 because I was also a cosmetologist. 952 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Like really dope barbershops they get taken care of, man. 953 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,280 They don't do that in female salons. 954 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600 Do you get champagne or wine though, where you go? 955 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,440 No. 956 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Girl, I'll give you some referrals. 957 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,400 You're going to the wrong places. 958 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,800 I'll set you up with my girl. 959 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,840 She's great. 960 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,800 I love her. 961 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,920 All right. 962 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Can we go together? 963 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Yes. 964 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,200 Let's do it. 965 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Please. 966 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,480 She's local too, so. 967 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:28,960 OK. 968 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,480 I love it. 969 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,680 You just let me know. 970 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,240 I'll even provide the champagne. 971 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,280 Just like open it and pour it into a glass for me. 972 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,520 I'll get you set up with her, don't worry. 973 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,320 It's amazing. 974 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,720 Bella, do you need a barber? 975 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,360 No. 976 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,800 Oh, fine. 977 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,000 No tattoo, no barber. 978 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,960 He's marching to the beat of his own drum. 979 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,320 I respect that. 980 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Solid. 981 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,160 But we'll give you shit. 982 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,160 You always do. 983 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,840 Yeah, that's why I'm the resident deviant. 984 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,880 Why break tradition? 985 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,080 I love that. 986 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,920 I have another Facebook question to pose. 987 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160 And that is, how do you deal with a client that 988 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440 is anxious about getting a tattoo? 989 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880 And what would be your suggestions 990 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320 for calming that person down? 991 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,000 That happens a lot, especially when it's the first tattoo, 992 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,760 because you really don't know what to expect going into it. 993 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Just know, I'm very transparent with people. 994 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Do tattoos hurt? 995 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,120 Yes. 996 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Is it completely unbearable? 997 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,080 No. 998 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,120 In order to calm the client down, 999 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,080 I think full transparency is a great way to go about that. 1000 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,200 And really just talking them through the process. 1001 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,040 So usually if I get somebody where it's their first tattoo, 1002 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120 obviously you're going to start with the line work. 1003 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,880 So I'll go in and do the first line, ask them how that feels. 1004 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,280 And then that's usually when the anxiety starts to calm down. 1005 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,720 And then really walking them through what the process is 1006 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,440 going to be like, I think, also alleviates that stress. 1007 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,680 But also giving them proper care instructions 1008 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,560 prior to coming into the appointment. 1009 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,000 Because there's a whole routine you should be doing. 1010 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Like you should be getting a great night's sleep 1011 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,680 the night before. 1012 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,920 You should be hydrated. 1013 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,440 You should be eating a meal. 1014 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Bring in sugary snacks in case you 1015 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,240 start to feel a little woozy, because that can happen. 1016 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,120 Because initially what's happening when you're 1017 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,760 going through a tattoo session, your body 1018 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,120 tends to go into a slight state of shock. 1019 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,440 So your blood sugar might drop. 1020 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,600 So being prepared for that, it's always 1021 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800 better to be over-prepared than under-prepared. 1022 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,760 And I think that also helps alleviate the stress. 1023 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,000 Because once you're in that calm state and realizing, 1024 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,040 OK, not all of this is going to be completely horrible, 1025 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,880 then they start to just chill and kick back. 1026 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,040 I also, for artists, I think we should be treating clients 1027 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,320 like how we would treat our friends. 1028 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,740 Because we're going to be up close and personal with them 1029 00:31:29,740 --> 00:31:31,960 for sometimes a whole day. 1030 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,600 And you don't want it to be awkward. 1031 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960 You don't want to not vibe with that person. 1032 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880 Because that totally kills the experience. 1033 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,760 Depending on where you're getting the tattoo, 1034 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720 you might be in territory that your friends have never 1035 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,040 been. 1036 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,320 Like I said, I've tattooed many body parts. 1037 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,640 And sometimes, if I'm doing a full chess piece on a woman, 1038 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,320 I am up in your space and just having a normal conversation 1039 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600 with you. 1040 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480 So what do you do for a living? 1041 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,120 While I'm touching your boob? 1042 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Moving stuff around. 1043 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,520 I'm like, yeah, that's great. 1044 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Are you having a good time? 1045 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,320 Just trying to make it as comfortable as possible 1046 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,320 for the client. 1047 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Because I'm not going to lie, the first time I was ever asked 1048 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,160 to even tattoo a butt cheek or someone's tatas, 1049 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,760 it's a little uncomfortable for me, too. 1050 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Because I'm like, wow, this is not taboo. 1051 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,040 But it's very uncommon for a lot of people in their industry. 1052 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,520 Yeah, I just tattooed someone's bits today. 1053 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,200 They're like, what? 1054 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,480 You're not like a person that does Brazilian waxes all day. 1055 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,560 It's not like you're seeing bits and bobs all day. 1056 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320 I don't know how estheticians do it. 1057 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,520 But more power to them. 1058 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Because I would just be like a little kid, just like, hee hee 1059 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,160 the whole time. 1060 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Like laughing through the awkwardness. 1061 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,120 Like, so how was your day? 1062 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880 RIP. 1063 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,360 Crazy weather we're having, eh? 1064 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,960 RIP. 1065 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,360 Wait till they start to answer and then RIP. 1066 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,240 I've had some of the best conversations 1067 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,200 with estheticians in that environment, though. 1068 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,560 They knew everything about me. 1069 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,640 And they go on that date every four weeks. 1070 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,760 I love that. 1071 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,440 Oh my god. 1072 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,000 I did. 1073 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,200 Telling them all your secrets. 1074 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,600 How is that coworker doing that you told me about last time? 1075 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,000 Like, they knew everything. 1076 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920 Oh, they're doing fine. 1077 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600 I had a great day. 1078 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,600 That's so funny. 1079 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,360 No, I was pretty numb to it by then. 1080 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,040 It was fine. 1081 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,360 Yeah, like my cousin was an esthetician for a little bit. 1082 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,680 And she would tell me some of her crazy stories. 1083 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,240 And I'm just like, dude, and you're 1084 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,120 up in there the whole time. 1085 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,880 Maybe we should add an esthetician to the wish list. 1086 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,440 Oh my god, absolutely. 1087 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Great stories from them. 1088 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Like, that's why I was called Tales from the Service Industry. 1089 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,120 It's not hotels. 1090 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,360 It's anybody that deals with the public. 1091 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,000 This is great. 1092 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,880 I love it. 1093 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080 So I have one last question for myself. 1094 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,640 All right. 1095 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,000 I'm sorry. 1096 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000 I've been hogging the mic. 1097 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,280 So if you ladies want to join in. 1098 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,920 Oh, I'm still really enjoying this. 1099 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Um, we've talked about inappropriate tattoos 1100 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,880 or the weirdest places. 1101 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,160 You've had to put a tattoo, so on and so forth. 1102 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,200 Here's my next question. 1103 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:00,700 OK. 1104 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:04,160 What's the most inappropriate or disrespectful person 1105 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,440 you've ever dealt with? 1106 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,120 Whoa, that's a great question. 1107 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,160 Yeah. 1108 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,120 There's been a few, I think, just to kind of generalize it. 1109 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,880 And because they were the same person, different body type 1110 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,560 of thing. 1111 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,240 I personally feel that there are certain people out there 1112 00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:22,320 who believe because you are paying for a service 1113 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,440 that you are entitled to treat that person however you want. 1114 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Oh, we know that well. 1115 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,360 Very well. 1116 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,680 Yeah, we call them Platinum's. 1117 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,120 We call them rewards members here. 1118 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,240 Yeah, so I mean, the way I deal with that, I, 1119 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:45,000 to be completely transparent, I have worked incredibly hard 1120 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,560 to do what I do for a living. 1121 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,840 And I demand respect for that because there 1122 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,920 is a lot of shit that I've personally had to go through 1123 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,760 just to do this that not many people even 1124 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,920 have awareness of, you know? 1125 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040 So for that, I'm not going to let them just sit there 1126 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,040 and disrespect me. 1127 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160 I don't care if you're paying me x amount of dollars. 1128 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,640 You can politely leave because while you're taking up 1129 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160 that time and taking up my time and energy, 1130 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,120 there's somebody else who would be super 1131 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,560 grateful to have your spot. 1132 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,400 So why would I want to take away from the person that's 1133 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,080 going to treat me with respect and I'm 1134 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,400 going to treat with respect to tailor to you? 1135 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480 And the issue I've seen with a lot of artists 1136 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,200 is they don't feel like they have that power to do that. 1137 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,920 And that's super, it's disheartening 1138 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480 because that starts to make your job not fun. 1139 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,480 You know, like when you're being disrespected 1140 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,720 because somebody feels entitled to treat you however, 1141 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,880 like you're, it's okay to say no. 1142 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,160 Do not sell yourself short because if you're setting 1143 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200 that as the standard, guess what? 1144 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,120 That person that is disrespecting you, 1145 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,000 they're going to think, oh, well, I can send all 1146 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,240 of the other people that I associate with to you. 1147 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,160 And that's going to be that standard that is coming 1148 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000 into your booth or whatever. 1149 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,200 So I think you got to stay on your ground. 1150 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,120 It sucks to like take that L, you know, sometimes 1151 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,800 cause it's sometimes it's just a small tattoo 1152 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,080 and you're only missing out on a couple bucks 1153 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,320 or it's a full day session and you're missing out 1154 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,600 like on a day's worth of rent, but like stand your ground, 1155 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,440 hold your ground, keep yourself respect intact 1156 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,760 because what we do, not everyone can do. 1157 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,000 And I think we need to like hold that, you know, up. 1158 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,960 Like a lot of us have dealt with a lot of shit 1159 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080 to get to what we, you know, what we're doing now. 1160 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,640 And I think a lot of us have histories that, you know, 1161 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,760 a lot of people weren't really necessarily rooting for us 1162 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,880 or thinking that we were going to do anything 1163 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440 with our lives and now that we're doing it, 1164 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,400 like really just protect your energy in that process. 1165 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,720 Like we've earned it at that point. 1166 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,680 I love it. 1167 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,520 That's amazing. 1168 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,360 I love it. 1169 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,400 Yeah. Dang. 1170 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,240 Well, it's a little different 1171 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,120 because it's a little different from our industry. 1172 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,160 We have not been given that freedom 100% of the time. 1173 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120 We're in the kiss your butt industry. 1174 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,000 Exactly. 1175 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,360 So you can say whatever you want. 1176 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Because you're, you know, quote unquote, 1177 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,000 independent contractor. 1178 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,080 We are not. 1179 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,920 Yeah. 1180 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,040 And there's definitely a right way 1181 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,560 and a wrong way to go about that 1182 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,720 because you don't want to ruin your reputation. 1183 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,840 So if you're coming back at that person 1184 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,920 from a disrespectful standpoint, 1185 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,280 you're only adding gasoline to that fire. 1186 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,480 So you have- Very true. 1187 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,280 There's a right way and there's a wrong way. 1188 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,920 So learning the wording to do it 1189 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,080 so that you are setting that boundary, 1190 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,240 that's where everything is going to just go smooth sailing. 1191 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,080 You know? 1192 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,920 Wow. 1193 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,240 Yeah. I like it. 1194 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:31,080 So do I. 1195 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600 I'm excited for us all to get tattoos. 1196 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,040 I'm sorry, more tattoos. 1197 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,280 Are we all getting podcast tattoos? 1198 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,120 Yes. 1199 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,960 No. 1200 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,800 Come on. 1201 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,480 Just a little mic, a little headphone set. 1202 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,720 That's actually pretty funny though. 1203 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:43,640 I've thought about it. 1204 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,280 I think like a microphone, like with, you know, 1205 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,120 headphones around it would be really- 1206 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,960 How dope would that be? 1207 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,920 Like really, I don't know. 1208 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,080 I'm like envisioning this as like line work 1209 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,280 and just really simple straight to the point. 1210 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,960 See, I like, a lot of my tattoos 1211 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,240 don't have like super deep meaning, 1212 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,320 but to me in my head, they have stories. 1213 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,360 They represent, you know, points I was in my life. 1214 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,880 Like I know that Liz gets that too. 1215 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,800 Me too, yep. 1216 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,040 And so I can look at a tattoo 1217 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,000 and remember where I was at that point in my life. 1218 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200 Remember, you know, even I have something super dumb, 1219 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,320 like this little heart. 1220 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,240 And I just remember exactly where I was 1221 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,280 when I got that, exactly what it felt like 1222 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,800 and like these different pieces of me. 1223 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,640 I like to call them bookmarks. 1224 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,480 Yeah. 1225 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,320 Literally. 1226 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,200 Yeah, because like I said, 1227 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,920 and that kind of ties back into what I was saying 1228 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,560 about the experience that you create. 1229 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,320 Like being a good tattooer, again, 1230 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,160 is only half of being a good tattooer. 1231 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,320 Like if you're not creating a good experience, 1232 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,600 that person is gonna look back at that tattoo 1233 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,600 and remember the shitty experience they had. 1234 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,440 That's true. 1235 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,160 Where if you're creating like a lighthearted time, 1236 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,280 they're gonna remember that. 1237 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,040 But all of my tattoos that I have, 1238 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,320 and I have a few, obviously, 1239 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,760 I can tell you exactly where I was at, who did them, 1240 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,280 like same thing that you were saying, 1241 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,320 but it's also nice to kind of look back at them 1242 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,320 and then look at where you're at now and seeing the growth. 1243 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,160 Yes. 1244 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,680 That's why I like to call them bookmarks, 1245 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,520 because you can always go back to that and then just, you know. 1246 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,360 I love that. 1247 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,200 Yeah. 1248 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,020 I'm obsessed. 1249 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:05,120 I got a couple bookmarks. 1250 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,960 She does. 1251 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,800 I got peer to me. 1252 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,640 Yeah, yeah. 1253 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,480 Some of her bookmarks are funny. 1254 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,320 Hi, Mom. 1255 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,000 Hey, Mom. 1256 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,040 My poor parents, dude. 1257 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Hey, my first tattoo, my mother was there. 1258 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,720 She approved and she even paid for it. 1259 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,080 It's matching with her. 1260 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,920 I love that. 1261 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,880 My first tattoo I got when I was 15 1262 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,480 and my mom had no idea until my sister snitched me out. 1263 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,320 Ew. 1264 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,400 Come on, sis. 1265 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Well, it's because she got caught for her tattoo. 1266 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Again, we got our first tattoos at the same time. 1267 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,080 So you just ratted each other out. 1268 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,720 No, my sister, bless her heart, 1269 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,600 she got her tattoo in a very visible area. 1270 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,320 I was the smart one out of the two of us. 1271 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,560 I was like, I'm gonna get it somewhere 1272 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,160 where she will never see it and she didn't. 1273 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,600 My mom never found out about it 1274 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,000 until my sister called me out. 1275 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,840 Come on. 1276 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,160 I know, but now, you know, I'm obviously like, 1277 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,800 I'm to a point now where it took my mom almost two years 1278 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,640 to realize that I had a hand tattoo. 1279 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,080 Like notice another one? 1280 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,480 That I had a hand tattoo. 1281 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,320 Really? 1282 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,840 Like this thing's pretty solid. 1283 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,680 And she looks at me and we're driving. 1284 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,120 She's like, when did you get that? 1285 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,400 She's like, that's new. 1286 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,080 And I was like, which one? 1287 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,240 And she saw your hand. 1288 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,880 I was like, mom, I got that two years ago. 1289 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,840 She's like, oh. 1290 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,720 Like girl, I've gotten 10 more since. 1291 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,400 But then my poor dad, like my dad has no tattoos 1292 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480 just to kind of explain the background I come from. 1293 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,280 My mom is an accountant and my dad's a computer analyst. 1294 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,120 Wow. 1295 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,440 Yeah, so and then there's me. 1296 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,280 I don't know how that happened. 1297 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,120 The hardest child. 1298 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,480 I don't know how that happened, 1299 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,560 but someone had to do it 1300 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,280 and I volunteer distribute apparently. 1301 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,120 But yeah, like my poor, my dad, like there was a while 1302 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,160 cause he lives up, you know, Northern California. 1303 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,560 So I see him a few times a year, 1304 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,720 but during the pandemic, I hadn't seen him for a while. 1305 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,760 And that was when I got most of my tattoos 1306 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,680 cause I had all the time off to do so. 1307 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,800 So I finally went up North to go visit him 1308 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,400 and I'm like wearing shorts. 1309 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,080 All of my tattoos are out. 1310 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,920 And he just looks at me. 1311 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,480 He's like, oh God. 1312 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,400 I was like, who are you? 1313 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,280 He's like, you look like a coloring book 1314 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,640 more and more every time I see you. 1315 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,040 I was like, it's fun though, right? 1316 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,880 Yeah. 1317 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,720 Yeah. 1318 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:57,560 It's funny. 1319 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,680 Oh, that's amazing. 1320 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,680 And Bill's just our unicorn. 1321 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,160 I know I'm just sitting here living vicariously. 1322 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,000 I love it. 1323 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,840 That's always fun though too. 1324 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680 I sometimes wonder what it would be like 1325 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,160 to like not have any tattoos. 1326 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,640 I've become so accustomed to just seeing, 1327 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,360 like I kind of want to do that trend 1328 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,120 where you cover them all up with makeup. 1329 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,800 And I just want to see what I would look like 1330 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,480 cause sometimes I forget my tattoos are even there. 1331 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,360 Like my neck tattoo sometimes I forget his arm. 1332 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,720 People will just poke it. 1333 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,760 I'm like, why'd you poke it? 1334 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,280 Why are you touching me stranger? 1335 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,200 Oh my God. 1336 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,280 Yeah, it's happened. 1337 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,240 It's yeah, I've had complete strangers. 1338 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:32,640 Strangers touching you. 1339 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,160 Yeah, like I don't know what it is about them saying, 1340 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,240 like I'm like, you guys are saying this out loud. 1341 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:39,640 I just want to see your tattoos. 1342 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,640 I'm like, you don't have to touch me to see them. 1343 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,560 I was in a sprouts one time, just browsing through the fruit 1344 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,080 and somebody just comes up from behind me and starts, 1345 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,440 You're from behind you touching your neck. 1346 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,040 Yes, and girl, I grew up in the hood. 1347 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,440 So I was ready to turn around and start swinging, you know? 1348 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,160 And I turn around so fast and they're like, 1349 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,320 it's just so pretty. 1350 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,440 I just wanted to see it. 1351 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,920 I'm like, why can't you just look with your eyes then? 1352 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,360 I tell my toddler that look with your eyes, not your hands. 1353 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,720 And these are full grown adults. 1354 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:08,920 Like the woman that did this touched my neck tattoo. 1355 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,680 She had to have been in her late forties, early fifties. 1356 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,600 So she knew better. 1357 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,480 Yeah, she knew better. 1358 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,320 You think? 1359 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,720 I was just like, sweet pea. 1360 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160 You almost got knocked into last decade. 1361 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,000 Probably deserved it. 1362 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,840 You almost got shanked. 1363 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,520 You know that fight or flight, you know, response? 1364 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,560 Mine's very much fight. 1365 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,440 I do not flight. 1366 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,440 So I was like, man, I was about to get arrested in a sprouts. 1367 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,280 Can you imagine? 1368 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,280 There are local tattoo artist is arrested in sprouts 1369 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,440 in the produce aisle. 1370 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,280 Imagine. 1371 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160 I couldn't imagine calling somebody like, hey, 1372 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,520 y'all got the bail money on deck 1373 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,600 because this just happened in a sprouts. 1374 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,480 And I got to get out of this bitch. 1375 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,760 Get me out of here. 1376 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,160 To be fair, she was all up in my business. 1377 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,000 I just reacted. 1378 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080 She would have deserved it, absolutely. 1379 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,040 If you were at Walmart, I would expect that. 1380 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,880 Yeah, totally. 1381 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,720 Oh my God. 1382 00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,720 But yeah, it happens so often. 1383 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,480 People will just like, I'll be having a normal conversation 1384 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,960 and then I'll feel my arm get dragged out by somebody. 1385 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,040 Just trying to hold your hand. 1386 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,080 Just like, oh wow, your tattoos are amazing. 1387 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,160 I'm like, yo, personal space. 1388 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,040 See, I'm very huge on like, okay, especially strangers. 1389 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,320 But that was one of the biggest and most difficult things 1390 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,560 for me when I was pregnant. 1391 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560 People think just because you're touching your stomach, 1392 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,760 you get to just touch you. 1393 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,600 Right. 1394 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,440 And I don't even know you 1395 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,360 and you go put your hand on my stomach. 1396 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,000 I'm like, it's still me. 1397 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,920 It's still on my body. 1398 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,920 Why are you touching me? 1399 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,720 You're like, my sister was the same way. 1400 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,360 So half the time my sister, I'd have to ask her, 1401 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,200 she's on nap. 1402 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,400 I'm like, okay, cool. 1403 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,600 I don't want to poke the bear. 1404 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,800 She would have ripped my head off immediately. 1405 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,080 But yeah, I never understood that either. 1406 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040 I'm like, you can't just go up and touch people. 1407 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,080 There are laws about that. 1408 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,400 I mean, even worse. 1409 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960 It's like, people walk up and rub your stomach 1410 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,280 and be like, oh, good job. 1411 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,920 Nobody rubs in my junk and says, oh, good job. 1412 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,320 Yeah. 1413 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,440 Oh my God. 1414 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,760 That would be awesome. 1415 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,080 She's cringing. 1416 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,880 No, because I have a very imaginative brain up in there. 1417 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,280 So I'm like, that would be so weird. 1418 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,480 I wonder if it would happen inside of a sprouts too. 1419 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,000 No, but probably would have Walmart. 1420 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,840 Walmart? 1421 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,680 Oh. 1422 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,640 Oh man. 1423 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,760 Oh goodness. 1424 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,800 Well, do either of you have any more questions 1425 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,160 for our fabulous guest? 1426 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,480 No, I ran the gamut. 1427 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,720 I came prepared. 1428 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,120 You did. 1429 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,560 For the listeners, we had notes prepared 1430 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,960 or Bill had notes prepared. 1431 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,800 Oh, I didn't. 1432 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,320 I knew they were all just going to fly out of my mouth. 1433 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,160 I love that. 1434 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,200 Well, in Origins, we talked about how we typically 1435 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,760 just let it be organic and kind of flow. 1436 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,600 This was different. 1437 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,560 It's a very big deviation. 1438 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,320 Well, this was on our bucket list. 1439 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,160 Yeah. 1440 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,720 I feel like it was also pretty organic. 1441 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:45,560 It was. 1442 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,480 I felt that too. 1443 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,760 This was like a really cool, casual conversation. 1444 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,800 I had a lot of fun. 1445 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,680 Well, okay. 1446 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,560 So on that point, like you were saying about 1447 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,160 getting people kind of prepared for their experience 1448 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,480 at the shop, so on and so forth. 1449 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,320 Right. 1450 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,520 And in Origin, we talked about it too, 1451 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,400 is that the whole concept of this 1452 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,920 and the chemistry that we've developed, 1453 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,040 it is weird you come in, you put on headphones, 1454 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,880 sit down in front of a microphone. 1455 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320 I feel like I'm in space. 1456 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,240 But like I said to you right at the very beginning, 1457 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,160 after about 15 or 20 minutes, that all kind of disappears. 1458 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,000 Yeah. 1459 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,000 And that comfort of being at a cocktail party 1460 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,480 and just drifting in and out of conversation circles 1461 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,080 kind of comes into play. 1462 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,200 So I hope you've found the experience 1463 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,480 to be different but not cringey. 1464 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,840 Yeah, no, this was a lot of fun 1465 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,720 just because I don't think I get asked this 1466 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,520 as often as people would think. 1467 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,360 Wow. 1468 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,760 So it's cool to kind of share my perspective on it 1469 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,920 because I think a lot of people have a generalized idea 1470 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,840 of how tattooers are, more like a stereotype. 1471 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120 But I think right now just with the shift 1472 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,040 you're seeing in the industry, 1473 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,760 it's kind of cool to break that norm 1474 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,240 and open up the conversation, 1475 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,200 especially because there are so many clients 1476 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,640 that are like, I don't even know what to ask 1477 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,120 and I'm hoping this is something that helps 1478 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,640 alleviate some of that stress 1479 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,760 because getting tattooed should be fun. 1480 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,600 Getting tattooed should be an experience 1481 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,400 and it should be a bookmark. 1482 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,040 It should be a bookmark. 1483 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,480 Well, and that's part of why I wanted to have 1484 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,360 a tattoo artist and bartenders 1485 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,240 and more of the service industry folks 1486 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,360 that people do have stereotypes on 1487 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,120 because I wanna hear their stories. 1488 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,960 I wanna know their perspective. 1489 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,080 We work in the hotel industry. 1490 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,240 Liz is in recreation. 1491 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,760 So our experiences are in certain levels 1492 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,120 with certain type of people in certain industries. 1493 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,280 I wanna know more about those industries 1494 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,440 that kind of hide in the shadows or are on the fringe 1495 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,520 or have negative connotations that are associated with them. 1496 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,760 I wanna talk to those people. 1497 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,840 I wanna know what it's like to walk in your shoes 1498 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,160 and I wanna hear your stories. 1499 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,400 Yeah, it's just so crazy, especially for tattooing 1500 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,240 because back in the day, tattoos were just for sailors, 1501 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,440 felons and bikers and stuff. 1502 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,280 And now we're seeing a huge demographic of people 1503 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,560 just coming in to get tattooed 1504 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,080 because they wanna collect the art. 1505 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,920 So it's definitely making a shift towards that 1506 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,160 and I think that's incredible. 1507 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,120 I'm obviously meeting great people doing that 1508 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,920 and I'm grateful for the opportunity to do so. 1509 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,840 I love it. So it's awesome. 1510 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,120 Well, I really appreciate you taking the time to join us. 1511 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,520 I appreciate you guys having me. 1512 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,360 The blast. 1513 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,760 Well, I might be jumping the gun 1514 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,360 but you can come back any time. 1515 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,200 Yes. 100%. 1516 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,960 Please. I would absolutely love to. 1517 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,880 This was fun. 100%. 1518 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,960 I'll talk to the shop and see if we could do 1519 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,040 a remote podcast there 1520 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,880 because I think that would be fun. 1521 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,720 That'd be amazing. 1522 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:23,960 Just the conversations you have 1523 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,480 while you're getting tattooed. 1524 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,460 I have to be careful about going live sometimes 1525 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:29,560 because I'll be tattooing friends 1526 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,800 and we'll just go completely off the rails, off the hinges. 1527 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,320 But it makes the experience fun. 1528 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,560 Totally. It's awesome. 1529 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,520 Oh my God, yes. 1530 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,040 I would love to come back. 1531 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,000 Anytime you got the time, reach out, let us know. 1532 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,720 We'll find a slot to bring you in. 1533 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,320 All right. 1534 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,240 I look forward to it. 1535 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,640 As we're wrapping this up, can you plug your socials again? 1536 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,520 Yeah, so you can find me on TikTok and on Instagram. 1537 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,600 It is the same handle. 1538 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,320 It's Chelsea Dagger underscore tattoos. 1539 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,600 And is that two Gs? 1540 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,600 Yeah, so it's C-H-E-L-S-E-A Dagger D-A-G-G-E-R 1541 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,040 underscore tattoos. 1542 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,000 All right. 1543 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,160 I don't have a TikTok 1544 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,560 but I'm gonna go get one now. 1545 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,480 Oh my gosh. 1546 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,600 Yeah, TikTok's been crazy. 1547 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,800 Yeah, not to pander, but we will follow you. 1548 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920 Yeah, I'm already following you guys on TikTok. 1549 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,920 Yeah, I was gonna say, 1550 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,880 Tales From The Industry is on TikTok. 1551 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,920 Bella, if you wanna plug our socials. 1552 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,760 Oh my goodness, I'm on spot. 1553 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,160 Yeah, where are you guys on? 1554 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,800 Cause I've been trying to tell people. 1555 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,280 So you can find us on Facebook. 1556 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,120 All right. 1557 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,960 You can find us on Instagram. 1558 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,360 Tales From The Service Industry for both of those. 1559 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,200 Awesome. 1560 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,640 On TikTok, it's a little different. 1561 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,120 It's T-F-T-S-I, but it's T period F period letter, 1562 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,280 period letter, period. 1563 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,120 T-F-T-S-I. 1564 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,600 And then where can we listen to this lovely podcast? 1565 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,680 Anywhere you can actually stream a podcast. 1566 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,600 You'll find us on iTunes, Spotify, Google, Amazon, 1567 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,360 iHeartRadio, YouTube, the whole nine yards. 1568 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,120 Where anywhere you can find a stream, you can find us. 1569 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:53,960 Awesome. 1570 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,840 Yeah, I'm really excited to see what you guys put out 1571 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,920 in the next couple of weeks too. 1572 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,240 I've been having a blast listening to all the episodes. 1573 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:00,080 Yay. 1574 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,880 They're just making me cackle in my car like a psycho. 1575 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,200 And I have a fricking fishbowl of a car 1576 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,760 so people are just watching me ugly laugh. 1577 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,600 I'm like, ah. 1578 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,440 It's fine. 1579 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,680 Good, that's what we aim for. 1580 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:10,840 You're laughing with us. 1581 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,280 I love it. 1582 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,920 With that in mind, you need to go back and listen to, 1583 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,920 the number will surprise you, parts one and two. 1584 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:17,760 Okay. 1585 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,600 Those are gonna be right up your alley. 1586 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,440 Oh, good Lord. 1587 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,280 100%, 100%. 1588 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,400 I cannot wait. 1589 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920 So, Chelsea, thank you so much for being with us. 1590 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,960 Ms. B, always appreciate you being here. 1591 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,560 Liz, thank you so much. 1592 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,400 Of course. 1593 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,240 We're happy to be here. 1594 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,560 Thank you for having me. 1595 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,000 We appreciate everybody listening 1596 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,880 and we will be back in two weeks. 1597 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,720 Bye team. 1598 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:36,540 Bye. 1599 00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:37,380 Bye. 1600 00:49:37,380 --> 00:49:38,380 Good luck. 1601 00:49:38,380 --> 00:49:39,220 Good luck. 1602 00:49:39,220 --> 00:49:48,340 AvenuePodcast.net