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Welcome back to another Sci -Fi episode, where

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today we'll continue to examine how we think,

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feel, and behave with money, especially during

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times of financial uncertainty. Since January,

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federal civilians have gotten somewhat of a shake

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-up and somewhat of a wake -up call. So I designed

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this class as a way to empower individuals, whether

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they were thinking of accepting the delayed resignation

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program or they were thinking of accepting the

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early retirement that came out a little later.

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And overall, just how to prepare themselves financially

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should another opportunity arise or. Another

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anxiety -provoking strategy came out so that

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they could feel confident in their money -making

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decisions. So what I wanted to do is I wanted

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to make sure that the civilian workforce felt

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empowered. Instead of focusing on things they

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can't control, focusing on the things that they

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can control and even reframing some of the things

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that they thought were negative. And really pointing

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out that some of these things that you thought

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were triggers or anxiety provokers were actually

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things that over time will have promoted growth

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for each individual. So for example, now knowing

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that not every federal civilian, just because

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you've reached your tenure or you have achieved

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your probationary status or have gone beyond

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your probationary status doesn't mean that you

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are secure for life in that position. So just

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other things as well beyond finances, keeping

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your resume updated and things of that nature.

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What I did want to do is I wanted to bring home

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or drive home somewhat of a metaphor as we are

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navigating through this financial uncertainty

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of thinking of it as being on a ship. And navigating

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treacherous water. Sometimes that water is beautiful,

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it's peaceful, it's calm, and folks flock to

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the beach just to see that serene scene. Yet

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other times the water is choppy and it's dangerous.

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So we want to make sure that we have the tools

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necessary. So I started right off the bat with

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a question. Just to get you prepared, remember

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the game you'd play as a kid or even with your

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kids? You would ask, if you knew you would end

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up on a deserted island, what three things would

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you bring with you? And if you notice, this game

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really gets to the heart of what you or your

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kids need most. Is it safety, comfort, or pure

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survival? So for many of us, it feels like we

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might be on that deserted island right now. and

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are doing what we can to survive. But I wanted

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to share with you some of the input from the

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folks that played along. Some said the three

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things I would bring, a knife, flint, canteen.

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That makes sense, right? Another said matches,

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axe, knife, book. And now we're moving into something

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that would keep them comforted and even keep...

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them somewhat occupied and distracted. Another

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one put a journal and a pen and a knife. The

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smarter individual, the more strategic individual,

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put satellite phone, right? And that's not to

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say that the others weren't smart. Again, it

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just shows the need for comfort or survival,

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whatever your responses are. And someone even

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said a boat, fuel, and a machete. So again, you

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can see the different types of things that folks

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were And even some put Bible on there as well.

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So again, shows you the difference in what people

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will find as comforting on this deserted island

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and help them survive while they're there. So

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then I changed the question just a little bit

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and kind of posed it this way that, you know,

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sometimes it can feel as if we don't, like we're

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already on that deserted island. What if we knew

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we were going to lose one paycheck or maybe 25

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% of our paycheck because we had to find a quick

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job, but it was a less paying job. And so I asked

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the question, what would you, well, let me actually

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read you the question. Financial uncertainty

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can feel like you're on a deserted island or

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up a creek without a paddle. If you knew financial

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hardship was on its way. What three things would

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you do differently? So just like in that initial

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question, what three things would you bring with

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you if you knew that you were going to be on

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a deserted island? This changes it up a little

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bit. If you knew financial hardship was on its

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way, what three things would you do differently?

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And so here's some of the responses. Stop eating

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out as much. Quit drinking. Increase my TSP contributions.

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And notice, first response. That is something

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that is within that person's control. Another

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person said save, invest, and consolidate. So

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they're thinking more of debt as well, as well

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as saving for the future. And then you have also

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cutting spending, cleaning up my resume, and

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even downsizing. So again, it just goes to show

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what might be happening in each of these individual

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lives as they respond the way that they're responding.

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Another one said, cut off non -essentials and

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consolidate debt. Again, this person's in a completely

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different place than the person who wants to

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increase their TSP and stop eating out as much.

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And then you have others that are saying, stop

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subscriptions, increase savings, and buy only

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the essentials at a grocery store. So if you

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can hear this, and I didn't read them all. There

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are so many things that could be done that is

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within a person's level of control on an individual

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level that they can start doing now to better

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prepare for financial uncertainty. So we talked

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first about navigational tools. So again, we're

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on that ship and we're using the metaphor of

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navigating through financial uncertainty or navigating

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through different types of waters. So the first

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thing we need is a financial map or a destination.

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Where are we headed financially? What use is

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your income without that direction? And knowing

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that direction is driven by destination, where

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do I want to be financially in six months, five

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years, 10 to 15 years, et cetera? And that goes

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back to just asking that one simple question

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and finding where people's comforts lie. What

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three things would you do differently if you

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knew financial hardship was on its way? They

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already knew what they needed to do. I would

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say that many of the folks that took this class,

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they probably didn't even consider that externally

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outside of that class. And so now they have a

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framework to work from. Now they have a financial

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map. So where do you want to be when you retire?

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And not just physically, but financially, emotionally,

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relationally. What would let you know that you

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made it? And so this again is where this destination

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or financial map will be useful for you in navigating

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financial uncertainty. So if you knew your destination,

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you could plan and at least feel some sense of

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control. And again, that goes back to the questions

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that we were asking before. So one of the things

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that we talk about too is the different tools

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that you can use as part of this navigation.

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looking ahead to remain on course, like having

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that ability to see what might be in front of

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you. I know that we can't predict the future,

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but we can get out our financial binoculars and

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at least see what might be in the distance for

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us that we need to plan for or look out for.

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And one way of doing that, the best financial

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tool that's available to us in that regard is

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a cash flow analysis. And from that cash flow

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where you are calculating how much income you're

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bringing in and how many expenses you have going

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out, creating a spend plan from that cash flow

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analysis. Now assigning every dollar a job and

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making sure that the spend plan is taking you

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where you actually want to go rather than just...

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teetering along, drifting on that driftwood,

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not even knowing when you're going to get to

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your destination. Another tool is knowing your

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net worth. That measures your wealth. When you

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know what your wealth looks like, when you have

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that calculation, you know where you are currently.

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And then from there, you work to know where you

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want to be. So at least it gives you reference.

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And then another navigational tool is PowerPay.

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And that's used for debt management. It's a free

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resource where you can plug in the numbers and

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make yourself a repayment plan. No fees, no contracts

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involved whatsoever. So sure, when it comes to

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navigating financial uncertainty, it's good to

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know what has happened that will not be helpful.

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So maybe after this initial shakeup in the federal

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workforce, you look back and say, wow, I was

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not prepared if I were let go because I did not

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meet probationary status or because I wasn't

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performing as well as I know I should have been.

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You can look back and say, OK, maybe. Maybe not

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knowing where that was going to take me, okay,

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but at the same time, now I know what I can do

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differently. So it doesn't help to beat yourself

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up so badly that you can't move forward. If anything,

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we want to get you to a place where you feel

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worthy enough to make those next steps. So you

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can inflation -proof your spend plan and your

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portfolio by, one, living below your means, and

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two, saving money. I mean, those are just different

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ways to navigate those treacherous waters because

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I guarantee you the folks who had savings, the

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folks who weren't involved in a lot of debt,

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and folks who had put together a financial plan

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probably weren't as shaken up. I'm sure there

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was some disappointment. Oh my goodness, if I

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lose my job, this was in my financial plan. It

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wouldn't be desirable, but at least I have the

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ability to survive until I get a new job. So

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I wouldn't want to speak for anyone just because

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they had savings or they had a financial plan.

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But here are some dangers we need to look for,

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especially when those waters start getting a

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little more choppy. When we're not tracking our

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spending, we are not. seeing where our money

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is going. And that is definitely a sign of turbulent

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waters because we cannot at least visualize where

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we're going to land if we're not tracking after

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we've created that beautiful spend plan. Living

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above our means, we just talked about that. Or

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it's not just living above your means, it's living

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at two incomes. So it used to be, and this ages

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me, I know, but when I grew up, I always got

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the advice, hey, when you get married and you

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have a dual income, try to live off one income.

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Because you never know when one of you might

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lose your job or might not want to work because

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maybe a child comes into the family and you're

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wanting to adjust and make smarter financial

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decisions while you're taking some time off from

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work. Or you just refuse to pay child care for

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whatever reason. It is rather expensive these

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days. So there could be many reasons why living

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at two incomes may not be the best idea. And

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so that could create what we would call a tsunami

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or at least create favorable conditions for a

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tsunami where one emergency completely wipes

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out. both incomes. So again, we want to learn

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to live at one income or at least live below

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our means. This is not Olivia saying, oh, we

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got to now learn how to live just at one income.

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No, that's just some old advice that absolutely

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can be tailored to your individual situation

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and your individual needs. But giving above your

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means is another danger. It's one thing to live

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above your means, but another to give above your

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means, where it just creates rocky shores for

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those relationships, all relationships involved.

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No tax planning is another danger that creates

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groundswell. Then you're eaten up by this never

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-ending rising water of taxes. And we want to

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reduce your tax liability, not increase your

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tax liability. And then another danger is not

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estate planning. where you have that rip current

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that comes in, and that rip current pulls you

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both under. If one of you passes, then all of

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a sudden, if there's no income that is left over,

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you don't know how to access that income or those

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benefits, then you're both under. I have a quote

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here that I really like by Florence Nightingale.

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Were there none who were discontented with what

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they have? the world would never reach anything

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better. Let me say that again. Were there none

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who were discontented with what they have, the

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world would never reach anything better. So I'm

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talking about these dangers. I'm talking about

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this uncertainty, not to scare you further, but

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just to help you understand that there's probably

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some financial discontentment in your life. And

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it's okay to have that level of discontentment

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so that you can actually create better life for

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yourself and it would provide some level of direction

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of what you need to do next so then I had another

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poll within this class I asked hey if you knew

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that you could transform your life by doing one

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thing for five minutes a day would you do it

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now All the respondents said yes. So I had 100

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% of the folks say yes. And I felt a little bad

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after because I kind of got onto them a little

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bit. I said, this is what you call the halo effect,

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where you want your instructor to view you favorably

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because of how you answered. Because we know

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that that's not true. We know doctors would laugh

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at that. Physical therapists would laugh at that.

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Financial therapists, financial counselors, you

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name it. A lot of folks are not putting in the

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five minutes a day for life transformational

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work. We would like to think that we would put

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in the time every day to do something different

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that would reduce our financial uncertainty.

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But truly, when it comes to actually sitting

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down and doing those things, a lot of folks aren't

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doing them. Five minutes a day times 30 days

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is two and a half hours. Are people really spending

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two and a half hours a month on their finances?

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No. A lot of folks may not really be putting

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the effort in according to what they desire.

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I gave the example of physical therapy. There's

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one exercise that I have done consistently since

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I have heard from my physical therapist. The

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number one stretch to reduce back pain, especially

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lower back pain, is a hamstring stretch. And

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I remember the physical therapist saying, all

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you have to do, do 60 seconds a day and you will

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see a big difference. I took her up on that.

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And I started doing 60 seconds a day. And I had,

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it was a he and a her. I had several physical

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therapists and physical therapy assistants voicing

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the same thing over and over again. So I took

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them all up on it. And every day, I do 60 seconds

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of hamstring stretches to reduce lower back pain.

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And I will tell you, it is effective. So here's

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the question. If you're not willing to do five

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minutes a day because thinking, wow, five minutes

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a day times 30 days, two and a half hours, geez,

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I probably really wouldn't spend that much time

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on my finances. Would you be willing to do the

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one thing in your financial portfolio for 60

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seconds a day that will transform your financial

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life? I hope the answer is yes. Because 60 seconds

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a day times 30 days, is only 30 minutes. And

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that's all I'm asking from my clients is, hey,

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at the end of every month, create your budget,

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go back and look at how you spent. After you've

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tracked your spending, how well did you do? Where

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were you off? Where do you need to readjust?

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That can be done within 30 minutes once a month.

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So think of it that way. Doing something in your

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financial life for 60 seconds a day could truly

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be life transformational. And that might include

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spending the 60 seconds a day it takes to track

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your spending. I do that with an app on my phone.

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And anytime I get a Java, anytime I spend money

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in other areas that doesn't come directly out

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of my account, I'm tracking where that money

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is going. So here's another one. Unlocking your

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motivation. So when we talk about discontentment,

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I gave that one from Florence Nightingale. I'll

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give the other by Dale Alexander, certified financial

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planner. He said, lasting change equals a passionate

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discontent and a powerful vision. So I asked

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people to answer in the chat, what do all financial

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emergencies have in common? And there were some

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different responses. But here's what I said.

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What do all financial emergencies have in common?

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Other than impeccable timing, you can plan for

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them. So this is where that powerful vision can

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come in. No one can predict the emergency, but

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you can predict that something in the future

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needs your attention in the present. And it might

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be tied to that passionate discontent. Give that

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anxiety that you felt last week or in January,

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especially as a federal civilian, or right now

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that purpose to prepare for the next emergency.

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So then we have the vitamin Cs of regaining control.

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Again, we're on that navigational. travel or

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journey on our boat. And so these are the vitamin

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C's of regaining control. So we want to avoid

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the scurvy and get our vitamin C at least once

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daily. And so here they are, curb spending. And

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this is the way that you can feel like you have

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some sense of control and focusing again on what

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you can control. So that might be breaking up

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with Amazon and DoorDash until the emergency

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has passed and accepting that you're in a financial

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emergency and behaving like it. Another one,

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call your creditors. Simply asking them to change

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the due date. It can buy you time. Then we have

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collect. Collect from whom or what can give you

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fast cash. And I'm not talking about going to

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a payday loan. I'm talking about collecting cash

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from who owes you money. It's time to pass around

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the coffers throughout the household, whether

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it's an adult child, a friend, or other family

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member. And listen. They are more likely to give

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during a financial emergency because they also

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need shelter, and usually it's shelter that you're

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providing them. Also another way to collect,

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what assets can you sell? You might have something

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sitting in a lot or in a storage facility that

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is just rotting, but someone else can breathe

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new life into it and pay you good money for it.

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Another is connect. Use your resources. And for

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those who are not active duty or who are not

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retirees from a military branch, United Way can

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direct you. You can dial 2 -1 -1. But those who

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are active duty or retirees from a military branch,

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you can go to your respective relief society,

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whether it's Army Emergency Relief, Air Force,

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Aid, or even Navy Marine Corps Relief. And then

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the last C, the last vitamin C, is to claim the

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future. you want. Any discomfort that you've

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felt since January, allow that to be your wake

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-up call. All right, and now let's move into

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allies. And these are your anchors for your boat

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and moving you towards that financial destination.

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So here is a quote by Isaac Newton, when two

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forces unite, their efficiency doubles. So alliances

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cannot be formed in isolation. This is where

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you can reach out, connect with other people,

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find a money mentor. And again, if you are here

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at Team Redstone Arsenal and are eligible for

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financial readiness, I can help you with that.

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I can be your money mentor, your accountability

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partner. Or if you don't have access to me, maybe

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it's someone that you admire who does manage

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their... finances well, or someone that you can

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trust to provide you with financial socialization

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that is actually sound and that it could actually

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get you somewhere. And what if your significant

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other became your ally instead of your enemy?

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And I know that could be a whole level of counseling

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sessions that would be required to get to that

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place. But marital financial counseling and even

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premarital, financial counseling is actually

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a thing. And then financially socializing your

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children in such a way to where they can become

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financially independent as well. And do this

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whole concept operating from your strengths and

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not your weaknesses. This is where you can challenge

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your money mindset and focus on what you've done

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well and doing more of that. There's a famous

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Japanese proverb that states, when you're thirsty,

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It's too late to dig a well. And then there's

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another proverb. If you do nothing during a difficult

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time, your strength is limited. So again, if

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we operate, if first we plan and do the things

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that we know we must do so when the time comes

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we are prepared for that event, but if also we

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work from a place of strength rather than vulnerability

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or liabilities or weaknesses, then we feel more

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confident and competent and moving. towards that

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direction. So last thing with this metaphor,

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sunlight is a natural disinfectant. It's time

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to expose those financial places where the sun

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hasn't shined in months or years. If you want

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something different, you must do something different.

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And that is through that financial exposure therapy.

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And again, clinical therapy not implied, but

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you are exposing yourself to approaching the

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numbers, recording the numbers, experimenting

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with the numbers, practicing, and noticing when

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change is occurring. And then finally, transitions

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or recalculating. So for those folks that may

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have said, hey, if I knew that I were going to

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have some level of financial hardship, What three

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things would I do differently? A lot of folks

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did state that they would polish their resume.

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And this is a time for you to practice your elevator

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speech. Update your resume. Know your worth.

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So if you did have to prepare... for a new job,

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how can you shine? How can you show someone that

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you have what it takes to remain employable?

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As federal employees, we should never get to

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a place of feeling where we're untouchable and

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we could never be released. When we got the five

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-bullet summary email that very first time, I

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printed out the email and I took it home and

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I talked to my girls about it. I said a lot of

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folks don't like this five -bullet summary that

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we have to give the Secretary of Defense every

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week. However, I'm excited about it because somebody

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is asking me, hey, what did you do last week?

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What difference did you make last week? And I

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thought this is fantastic. This is an opportunity

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to dust off. all the stagnation that may have

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been present and actually show, hey, here are

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the wonderful things that our team, that our

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staff, that we're doing to improve the lives

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of others. And by doing so, we're improving our

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worth. We're creating job security for ourselves.

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So I told my girls, always be ready to answer

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a five -bullet summary. And that is my encouragement

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to you as we close out on today's discussion

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on navigating financial uncertainty. Always have

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a five -bullet summary of how you can improve

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your finances. Until next time, be sure to review

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and rate the pod wherever you listen. We thank

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you for listening.
