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Welcome to the Outcast, the podcast from Outlaw Pro, the ultimate angling experience.

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Well hello and welcome to another fantastic episode of the Outcast, the podcast from Outlaw Pro.

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Now we have got a fantastic guest in today, a man that you will all have heard of who's got some

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incredible fish, but more of him later. Before then, let's just have a quick recap on what's

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been going on in the world of Outlaw Pro. Well, for a start, the huge news at the moment is we

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have got a new store opening up in Tadley, not far from Basingstoke, Reading and Newbury, sort of in

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a triangle there of Carp World. And it's going to be a brilliant new store. So that's going to be

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coming soon. We'll bring you plenty of news about that as and when we go through. We've got some

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fantastic bait, we've got some fantastic products, we've got all sorts of stuff going on. And also,

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manufacturers through the store as well. So do sign up to that. Anyway, that's the news from us

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for the time being. Let's welcome our guest. Now our guest has been around quite a long time.

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He's caught some incredible fish. He is without any shadow of doubt, one of the country's best,

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most well-known big fish haulers, not just anglers because he's got a long track record.

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It is a good friend of Outlaw Pro 2, none other than Nigel Sharp. There we go. How was that for

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an introduction? Not bad. Good to have you over. You've come from the west side of London, so you

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live over over Reading Way. Yeah, around the other side. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be close when we've got the

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new shop for you, wouldn't it? Very close, within walking distance. That would be nice. Brilliant.

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What are you up to at the moment? Tell me about your fishing. I'm fishing on the lakes over at

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Reading. Trying to catch a big common. I seem to like a big common, don't I? But yeah, this is a bit

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of an ongoing campaign. It's been going on for three or four years now. So I'm well through it.

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So I caught a lot of the fish in the lakes, some of them several times and you know,

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you feel close then you don't. It's you know, an ongoing thing, but it's an itch. Okay, you haven't

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the scratch, so I won't give up. What is it? Can you tell us where it is or what it is? It's a big

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common. It's actually called the Prestine. It's in one of the Reading Waters, Farnham Flint.

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It's on the Pingewood complex. It's a nice lake, proper mature old gravel pits, like a miniature

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burr field really, right next door to the burr field. Clear water and weedy then. Yeah, that's the one.

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So how big is it? The lake. No, the fish. Yeah, the fish. I think its top weight's just over 57 pounds.

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Yeah, it may be a PB for me if I'm lucky enough to catch it. Yeah, oh you'll get it. You'll get it.

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Well, there'll be two outcomes. I'll either catch it or it'll die. Yeah, there's not many that have

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evaded you so far really, is there? Well, no, you've just got to keep going, never give up do you?

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No. Well, look, we'll come to that a little bit later but on your journey for that fish,

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you've had a bit of success already, haven't you? What have you been catching?

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Like I said, I've caught several of them. Well, I've caught most of the lakes stock,

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mostly A team, some of them several times and it's just got to keep going and this year I've

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sort of hit the ground running. It's fairly local to me so I walk it a lot. I've walked it like every

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other day since Christmas, done a lot of leg work, waited for them fish to come within range because

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there's a couple of distance safe areas that are tricky to get at and when I see them start coming

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into range, start fishing and so far I think we're seven weeks into this year's campaign and I haven't

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blanked session yet. I think I've averaged a fish a night and I've done 19 nights so I've got 19 fish.

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Pretty good, I don't think I've done that well before but yeah. You've had a couple of decent

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ones as well. Yeah, I've had fish up to 46 pounds, well 46.12 is the biggest and you know,

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second biggest common in the lake so it's a good buzz. I have met that fish before but it sort of

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proves you're getting things right but sometimes other fish get in the way of the big one, don't

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they? Yeah, yeah, it's a weird one isn't it? You know, you want to catch a certain target. You know,

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I'm not a target hunter for an individual fish. I have a target weight so I will go out and I will

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try and chase a, you know, a 60 pound or a 70 pounder but I'm after the number. I'm not necessarily

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after the fish so it's slightly different for me. I don't mind which 60 pounder it is as long as it's

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a 60 pounder but you know, it must be, I'm not going to say frustrating but it will be a frustration

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if you're trying to catch a certain fish and you keep catching other fish irrespective of how big

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they are. Yeah, it can be frustrating. Spin the clock back years ago, lakes used to have like

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one per acre which was an average carp lake so you know when I fished over on the Yatey complex

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carp are like for instance a dozen fish in that many acres. Yeah. It kind of makes it easier to

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catch your target fish, you know, talk about that campaign later on or whatever but

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when there's less fish it's easier to pick the one you want out but the lakes these days tend

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to have heavier stocks so there's a lot more to get in the way and this is kind of what happened

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on Burfield and this thing is repeating again for me, I'm sort of stuck into one of them campaigns.

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So how do you solve that? What do you do? Is it, because I'll use Crowley as a prime example,

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he was targeting Butt-head up north as well, you know, that's a huge fish in a lake with an awful

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lot of fish in it and his general view was go to where the carp aren't which is completely alien.

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Yeah, I can understand that because where the carp aren't there's obviously less fish about

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and if that one comes into the the area you've got a better chance of hooking it. I mean,

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going back to Burfield I had chances when there was only three fish about and nailed the wrong one a

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couple of times, you know, things like that but when there's 50 fish about there's very, you know,

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it's odds and that's percentages. The chances are one other than the one that you want is going to

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be the hungrier one. The other thing is, I've got a very good memory, you make mental notes like

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I know places I've seen this fish feed three years ago so when I go in that certain swim

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that it's about I'll always put a bait on that spot whether it's been on it that day or not,

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it's just that I saw it feed there once so there's something that he likes about it, you know.

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It's an interesting mentality that as well that, you know, I spend a lot of time swimming with them

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obviously and they are without any shadow of doubt creatures of habit. There are areas they want to

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live, there are areas they like to sit, there are areas they'll feed, of course they can come from

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anywhere but actually, you know, the older the fish which probably resonates with the bigger the fish

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because they've been around a lot longer, they are such creatures of habit. Yeah, they're masters of

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their own environment, aren't they? They know where to be at certain times, you know, and

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other, they're buddies as well. I mean, the lake I'm currently fishing a bit like Burfield was at

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the time, it's got an old stock of big fish but there's a lot of newer stock, younger fish and

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them older ones, like you say, they're set in their ways, they're in their habits so

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if you can find them older fish, you're up in your chances of getting close to that fish all the time

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and, you know, obviously the smaller stockies and that can get in the way and it's just a process,

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you just got to keep going. It is a completely different mindset to just go fishing though,

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isn't it? You know, if you're going fishing for bites, it's a totally different mindset to go and

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fish in full race specific creature. I mean, I suppose in some ways you could liken it to

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different types of soldiers, you know, some are infantry men and they're fighting the line and

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then you get a sniper who wants his target, you know, he's got a certain thing that he's got a

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snipe at and kind of like that really with fishing and this type of fishing I do, you know, and that's

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what you call it, a target fish, it's your target, isn't it? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, good analogy. It's,

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you know, to be a big fish angler is it takes a hell of a lot of sacrifice, doesn't it? It takes

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dedication. You've got to dedicate yourself to it first and foremost, but, you know, people see the

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photograph, they don't actually see what goes on behind that and, you know, number one, the majority

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of the time I'd say it takes a lot of time, but it's not just the time, it's everything that goes

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with it. Yeah. You know, that does come with a lot of sacrifice. Yeah, I mean, myself, I've led a very

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selfish life for a long period of time, I've only, I don't know, can I use any language, only had my

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copter key, you know, and I could do what I want day to day, for years I've done that and if I feel

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I need to stay another night or another two nights or whatever, I just do it, but now obviously

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life's changed for me in the last couple of years, I can't be as selfish, although I'm lucky I have

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an understanding girlfriend who helps out with this obsession, but yeah, I'm in a lucky position,

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I fish for my living now, which is, you know, I've done it for quite a long time, nearly two decades

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and people would label myself as being a full-time angler, which I don't fish that long, I normally

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fish a maximum of three nights a week, but when I'm at home, I'm preparing and that can be two or

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three days of getting everything right, because the minute I get in my car from my house and drive,

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I don't, you know, the only time I get out of that car to go to the lake is when I'm at the lake,

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you know, I don't stop at shops or anything and when I'm at the lake, I start at the lake, I'm not

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nipping up the shop or down the calf or anything, I'm focused, you know, tunnel vision, that's a sort

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of sacrifice, your home life as well gets affected by it and yeah, I could do more nights, but I don't

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feel I fish effectively if I'm not prepared. Yeah, no, I think there's a lot to be said for that,

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you know, the full-timer, it's a label that's banded around quite a lot, but you know, this

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full-time is seven days a week, isn't it? Yeah. You know, that's all, I suppose that's all-time,

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full-time could be five days a week, but even that is a lot and I think when you look at a lot of

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what you class as full-time anglers, people that fish all the time, they become very stagnant,

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yeah, very stagnant. When you get off the lake, when you go back, it's another session, but if

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you're full-time, then it just sort of rolls into one. Tell me about your life, Nig, you know, I've

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known you for, I'm going to go back and say 93, 94, which was your early 80 days. Yeah.

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It was interesting because we're, I don't know how old you are exactly, but we're not far off

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the same age and myself and Crow, we were sort of the Northern boys that were going around,

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I suppose to use your soldier analogy, I'll use one slightly differently. We were going around

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scoring goals because we wanted to catch fish wherever we went, lots of different places and

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looking at the likes of you and Tell and Pinky and the guys that were on the eight league, you were

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climbing mountains. Yeah. You know, we didn't have any mountains by us or our mountains were a lot

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smaller. So as a result, we went out and scored goals because there were a lot more fish to catch

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and it was really interesting seeing you guys down south, what you were doing when we didn't

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have the opportunity to do it and the sort of dedication that you put in. It was a whole

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lifestyle, wasn't it? Yeah, definitely. It ruled your life really. It's just an obsessive lifestyle,

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you know, like you say, we wasn't there trying to score as many goals as we could, but we still had

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certain goals we wanted to score, which I suppose it's like, you could score lots of goals in lots

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of different football matches, but you know, we was playing at Wembley sort of thing.

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Yeah, that's why I say they're like the mountains, you know, we didn't have mountains and it just

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seemed an enormous task going out to catch one particular fish, you know, because there weren't

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that many around then, weren't there? You know, it was such good times. Yeah, I mean, there was

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probably back in the mid 90s, as many 40s in the country as some of these lakes hold today, you

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know, it's unbelievable, isn't it? Yeah, I just, I look back on the 90s and you know, carp fishing

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is where it is now and people, you know, you get some of the old farts that grumble about it, say

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now it's changed too much, it's not as good as it was. You know what, live your life. Yeah, there's

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no point looking back to what it was because you've had that. Yeah. What you've got now is what

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you've got now, so make the most of what you've got now. The youngsters, it's not their fault that

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that's what they've got now, because that's where they are. It's an interesting one. I get quite a

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lot of young anglers come up to me and you know, everyone likes hearing the old Yateley stories

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now, it seems to be a thing that everyone likes to hear and they always say, I wish I was about

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when you, you wasn't, and I said, well, the thing is you're about now and when you're my age, you'll

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have another youngster come up to you saying they wish they was about when you was, so it just moves

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on, doesn't it? Yeah, there's it, obviously we all do it on social media, we do bits and bobs on

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social media and I sort of quite like some of the inspirational quotes that come out and there's

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one that's out at the moment that says in 20 years time, you will wish that you were 20 years younger

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and you could do what you're doing now and I think too often people either wistfully look at

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what they used to be, just get on with it now, you know, it's a great world, but I'll go back to my

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original thought process on that actually, I've been distracted, but I just think the 1990s was

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such a good time for carp fishing, you know, the whole scene, I've been thinking about it for a

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while, I know you like music, you used to be in the club scene quite a lot, I liken the fishing

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industry a little bit to the music industry as well, that if you look at how music's progressed

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over the years, you know, back in the 80s and 90s, you had to be a talented musician to make it in

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the music world, that's right, now there's a lot more manufactured bands, there's a lot more

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opportunities for people to be able to be famous if that's what they want, but back then you got

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there because you were talented, yeah, it's very similar in a lot of ways, yeah, and you know the

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music scene at that time was absolutely fantastic, the carp fishing scene at that time was really

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exploding, yeah, everything seemed to evolve suddenly didn't it, in the late 80s, early 90s

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music and like fishing, I think when myself and Terry went onto the big fish side of the road

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at Yateley, like the carp art north from Pad Lake, we were quite young then and I remember obviously

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Terry caught Basel and I caught Heather, I think Rob Maylin caught Jumbo out of Pad Lake the same

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week and there's that picture of us three sound the bed chair, I think Chris Ball come down and took

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the photo and I remember him calling us the young guns, yes, I think that was a turning point in

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carp fishing that you'd walk around them Yateley lakes and there would generally be older lads on

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it like I suppose middle-aged, you know Rob Maylin's age I suppose, oh they were also us back then,

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we was kind of the people that proved that youngsters could go on and catch them fish, I mean

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don't get me wrong I was four years older than Terry, I think I was about 26, 27 when I went on

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the carp art lake, that was still considered quite young to be attacking them waters then and

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and since then as you know now I mean I had a photographer out of me the other week and he was

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20 years old he's called 50 pounder and he asked me when I caught my first 40 and I said when I was

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27 and he looked shocked at me, different world, that's how it's evolved, completely different,

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so much more of it about, it's interesting though that you say what you've just said about the

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age thing because this was when I was doing my mental prep, I'm fortunate with you because I've

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known of you and have known you for quite a long time so I don't need to do that much prep because

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we're of the same era growing up but one of the things I was thinking of was that you know

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again myself and Simon up in the north doing what we were doing, you guys in the south doing what

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you were doing, it was the beginning of a new age of the younger anglers coming through and you know

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back then certainly on those big fish waters it was an all boys game, young anglers, suddenly it's

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like oh these two young kids are starting catching fish and you've got a group on there as well

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and I always used to look at some of the pictures of you, there was what, there was Lewis,

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Jamie Smith, yourself, Pinky, bless him, God rest his soul as well, Terry, Nick as well, you know

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you were the sort of six down south that really set the world alight really with like suddenly

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everyone's looking at these young kids as they were catching so many big fish. Our generation

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was sort of inspired and the big fish scene by people like Richie MacDonald and you know the

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lights and Hutchinson and then obviously we sort of hit the eight equal them big fish,

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proved that younger anglers could do it with that enthusiasm we'd built up over a few years and then

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you don't realise it at the time but we're actually inspiring the next generation and

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absolutely you know what come from it and it's something to be proud of really.

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Well like the photographs you did an interview I think with Carpology was it or

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Siphru, was it Elliot that you did the interview with or was it Carpology recently where there was

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a few of you talking about the olden days at Yateley, there seems to be a 90s resurgence at

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the moment, everyone's looking at the 90s as how good it was but that's because it was so bloody

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good. Just talk to us about some of the stories, what was it like down at Yateley at that time

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because you know the iconic picture of I think Richie with Basil in particular is the one that

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really stands out to me you know I also for me as well I think Kev Clifford's capture of it

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was another iconic picture but you know there are what I call take your breath away pictures,

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lots of people have I said lots there are a number of esteemed captures of Basil not loads

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and loads but there's one or two that really stand out and the Richie capture for me was a huge one.

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Richie's capture was I think October 84 the year I left school and you know it's sort of

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I was more interested in going fishing when I left school I won't lie about it I didn't really want

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to get a job or anything that's all that mattered to me and then bang there's this capture in

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October this I think at the time second biggest carp caught in the country wasn't it? Yeah 46

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wasn't it? Yeah 45-12 yeah yeah yeah you know it's when you set foot on them lakes you know I was

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you know I was local, lifting friendly so I could ride my bike over there as a nipper or you know

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we'd drive over once we passed a test drive over and have a walk around it wasn't a very secure

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venue you could just wander about and you'd see these anglers I actually met Richie McDonald a

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couple of times on me wanders nice chap yeah Jock White, Terry Peffbridge all the Yahoo crew and that

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lot almost as a nipper walking around feared talking to these hardened carp anglers attacking

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these rock hard waters that he didn't think he'd ever fish like and he was quite shocked when

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that was quite you know pleasant to you and then one day you find yourself taking the step over

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to you going on the match lake where you was kind of ushered over to you know like don't you think

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you should be fishing for 20s lads or something all right I'll go and do that yeah caught all them

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moved on to the cops lake trying to catch a few target 30s done that right I'm coming over to the

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big fish side now you know but when you set foot on them lakes you're a little bit in fear of it

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you know you think what these iconic fish that you know Richie Mack and Robin Dix like another

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iconic shot I have a one in Robin Dix's capture you're thinking I'd love to catch them fish like

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beyond your wildest dreams and that and how long is this going to take you think you're going to be

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sitting it out for 10 years on them lakes because you hear all the stories you know so and so went

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on there he looked Basel or he looked ever on his first night and he lost it at the net or something

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and he's still on there six years later you know that's what you're facing you know and yeah there

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there's a bit of nervousness about it but he's also had confidence from being successful elsewhere

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like venues before and the slightly say lesser lakes on the other side of the road you know

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but yeah he's quite shocking to be sat there thinking I'm fishing for them fish I see

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10 years ago in the papers like you know yeah it's interesting about the you know the photographs

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you talk about the the photographs of of Richie there was there was one for me that really set

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me alight and that was Rod Hutchinson at Cassian with uh he got a 56 pounder on a Lilo I don't know

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if you know that but in exactly the same way that Richie inspired you to do that I was I think I was

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15 maybe 16 at the time when Rod caught that and that just turned me on immediately to continental

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fishing I thought as soon as I can drive I'm going there didn't even know where it was like I just

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wanted that it was it was amazing well on the subject of particularly good fish we ask people

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to bring in a present for us that we can stick on our fantastic wall of memorability we've got some

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lovely things up here and Sharpie you've got something for us as well and I think it is a

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fish but it's a very very special one isn't it just tell us what this is and why you've bought it in

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it's quite fitting really it's sort of um I don't know one of the things I'm famed for and probably

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my most epic capture and a picture of the Burfield Common there there is look at that that I even

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signed it for you fantastic we should get that framed we'll just show this camera over here

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so we shall get that framed and stick it on our wall of fame up there you'll be in esteemed

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company with uh with some of the things that we've got up there but that is a very very

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very special capture indeed there you go thank you very much sorted lovely very carpy t-shirt

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on that one as well I still got it I have a fashionista probably don't fit me now though

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I'm about three stone heavier there's one really iconic picture there's a number of iconic pictures

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of you but there's one particularly iconic picture of you that stands out for me and I think it was

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Heather you got your optics cormorant that's right yeah so the old glasses yeah and I just thought

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at the time you were the coolest man in carp fish I don't think I've ever told you that but I just

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thought at the time yeah man he's proper cool there's the old um burgundy um airborne sweatshirt

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as well yeah so happened to end up in all my big fish shots at yate as well you know that

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I think even some of the clothing brands these days sell burgundy sweatshirts on the back absolutely

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but you've got to say that you know as as fashionistas both both you and terry at that time

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some of those pictures you know the iconic clothing items let's have a look at what the most

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iconic clothing item is going back historically dick walker's felt hat that's got to be up there

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quite a lot isn't it yeah rod duchess and that of multicoloured sun visor yeah I remember that

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yeah I've been playing tennis that's it yeah it's like where on earth does that come from but it

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just looked completely wrong didn't it um then you look at um with with terry I think the cardigan

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stood out quite a lot yeah the cardigan that was I think we went up um black push market just up the

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road from yate on the sunday market and I think he bought that cardigan there and it just god only

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knows what happened to that card he's probably still got it oh he's still got it he doesn't throw

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anything away you know I think actually yesterday I see on a Facebook group I think it's old school

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carpers I don't know if you follow it yeah someone had posted a picture up that I took with um terry

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holding a dustbin up wearing that card was it really and you know everyone's going mad about

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that picture and it kind of makes me proud to have taken that picture but it is of that time and

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that you know again like you say your jumper yeah I mean I was given that by a mate who was in the

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parachute regiment and he told me never to wear it and let anyone see you wear it yeah yeah

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because paratroopers don't like to see you wearing things like that and I did actually have one pull

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me up like sort of come into me swim at yate when was you in then yeah like this big 16 stone man

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mounting yeah I said well wasn't my mate give me it so I don't know he's like you're not meant to wear that

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I was in there for 22 years well I'm all right it's my lucky jumper though but yeah he said

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I never thought I'd become a fashion icon though in fishing with glasses and the jumper

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yeah oh no it was just so cool at the time it's so cool and you know the the other thing that at

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the time that was quite big was the the clubbing scene as well wasn't it you know I know Lockie

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was into it as well yeah he was he wasn't fishing the at that time he was probably around Dartford

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somewhere but you know the the the the music scene went hand in hand very much yeah it did I mean

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around like my era late 80s early 90s you had the illegal rave scene and that which was great fun

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and then it became legal and I kind of backed out of all of that sort of early 90s 93 94s yeah as

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the more focused I got on Yateley the less I was interested in it all but obviously the music was

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there and locally it was um there was friends of mine actually they run a pirate radio station

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called Radioactive I think Terry wrote about in his book yeah we all tuned in I think we

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on the Pads Lake and that there was a tree down on Greaveshead Point and we got a bit of copper

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wire and climbed the tree and wrapped it around it and then you wrapped it around the area of your

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little radio and so you could tune in to it a bit more but yeah you could walk into a few swims and

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everyone would be listening to the you know music on the little radios and that it was part of it

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back then I mean now I think everyone listens to opera music when they're fishing don't they yeah

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I don't know because if you look at if you look at Alan Blair and the Nash boys they you know they

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sort of they're quite music oriented as well aren't they yeah they like all their decks and that side of things

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don't they yeah yeah I suppose it's each to their own isn't it yeah it's funny because you get people

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now going oh god music oh they should be doing that it's all about but actually 30 years ago it's what

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we were doing anyway you know I'm from the north well north midlands northwest midlands and you know

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the whilst we were into house music the the Manchester tunes were ours so yeah stone roses

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yeah and all of that this is well pre-oasis but they were such a huge part of uh of what we're

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doing um just stick it on yet before we move elsewhere uh the Bazzill stone the Bazzill

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let's talk about the Bazzill stone for those of you that don't know what the Bazzill stone is

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you're going to find out because this is an incredible piece of history is it is it still

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around or was that buried with Bazzill this is a hard question I couldn't give you a straight

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answer on that but I know there was a stone that got passed around and if I don't know how but this

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stone was passed from one to the other and if someone called Bazzill and they in possession of

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the stone they handed it on to the next person that's it it was I thought you might know where

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it originally came from basically what it was was there was a was a tiny pebble it was only like

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as big as a two pence piece wasn't it maybe even smaller yeah because I know Terry had it at one

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stage yeah yeah and and basically this was the lucky thing so someone caught Bazzill and I'd

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like to know who where the original came from maybe Terry knows Terry if you're watching let us know

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yeah um but they they they drew a picture of the fish on the on the stone and then it got passed

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around and if you caught it then you gave it to someone else that you that's right yeah did you

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I thought you had it no I never had the Bazzill stone but you had Bazzill yeah yeah so I think

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I probably caught it too quickly to be handed the stone though right yeah maybe someone who was holding

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the stone was still holding it after I'd been and gone yeah I think I was only on the North Lake

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26 nights oh well they've been there done that piece of cake tick the box tick gone so just before

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we move off yetly then of all of those fish you know dustbin orange heather Bazzill which would

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you put as your highest of those would it be Bazzill or heather tricky question two different

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carp and one a leather and one a you know a mirror carp um a lever carp very rare and heather was my

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first 40 so very special there but I think Bazzill is just such an iconic fish um I've even named one

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of my cats Bazzill so probably is that yeah yeah you know to to catch one of those fish is incredible

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but to have caught two of them is is amazing absolutely amazing let's roll the clock forwards

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uh and talk about more iconic carp as well because that's not the end of the story there is it um

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there's a certain common that lives in a place called Burfield that is arguably the most sought

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after fish in the country uh as well and you've uh you've managed to peg that one too yeah that

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was well going back a few years now 2006 may 2006 I caught that after pretty much five years to the

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day of going after it I originally went to Burfield so I wanted to catch a 40 pound common yeah as we

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just said I'd caught a lever and a few cut the mirrors over 40 pounds and I thought I'm not one

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for breaking any records or you know like I looked at sort of uh Raysbury and it was full of record

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hunters back after Terry had caught his boats and I thought well out of my depth I'm a

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at the time relatively small gravel pit angler that's a little bit out of my league and working

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full-time couldn't do it so I thought I set my own little records like you said you know you fish

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for a weight I set myself little targets and I thought you know what I wouldn't mind mirror

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a common and lever you know and at the time I think there was probably only three or four 40

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plus commons in the country and two of them were open access waters one being Burfield and one being

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Sutton and you know Sutton was down Garford way from side of the M-25 yeah and you know

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Burfield sort of 18 20 miles from where I lived in Cambly at the time so that was uh you know

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that's where I'm going next sort of thing you know and I went there originally just to catch 40 pound

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common because I'd heard a 41 pounder have been caught the year before and see it in the angling

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times and yeah pretty much found it straight away from walking on the lake and then you know

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I got it taking mixes nearly you know was very close to catching it within the first couple of

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days and you know I thought you know I like this place there's other fish seeing them swimming

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about and enjoying catching a few fish with me mate Bidders and I think we had that year we caught

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40 fish between us from Burfield which was pretty good when we was learning it for ourselves we

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didn't ask questions or anything I did have a few mates from old we're old school very secretive so

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I didn't even dare ask them so was there many people on it then was it was it busy? Burfield

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was back then there's just a few local anglers and another chap called Chris Gardner fishing it

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and the local anglers it was their back garden their playground yeah you kind of like they

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didn't welcome you I wouldn't say they were hostile unusual well it's like I know why now

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because those lads are all very good friends of mine known for 20 odd years and that but the reason

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why they didn't befriend you is because they did see people come and go and they didn't want to

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encourage you but once they realized that me and Bidders has caught sort of several fish between

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us that year that we weren't going anywhere in the end the sort of leader of the pack Stuart

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you know he's been on their years anyway he sort of stopped once you know he used to walk through

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me swim some of us you know you'd be bivvied up on a path with your rods in the reeds and they'd

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have to walk past the front of you and he'd walk through with his rods and his rucksack on his back

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and he wouldn't even say hello or anything you know this went on from May till September and then

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one day in September he just stopped and you know you've seen it then yeah you know you ain't going

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anywhere are you mate I said no I'm here till I catch it and he said oh he goes right I'll start

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off I'll apologize for not speaking to you but I see so many people come and go like and I can see

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you're not going to give up so right very good friends to this day in the game but that's what

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them lakes not just Burfield you had Engerfield and Farnham Flynn and that they was all very

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quiet lakes they were the locals back garden their playground and now it's a different story very

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popular Pingewood was fished a bit I think Chile and Laney and all that lot was over there because

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they was fishing for the jockey back then you know I was like I remember when I was sort of

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reccy and Burfield out that winter when all that you know Chile and you know Ian Russell and Laney

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and all that like they remember used to be driving fast I think no they don't see my car

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because I don't want them to know where I'm going and what I'm up to you know but um

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yeah it's evolved in the last 20 years my I think um my time chap called Malcolm Tab caught common

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on my first year 45-12 good weight gain for it that created a bit of interest the following year

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it did get busier and then that influx of anglers slowly died off like over the next two or three

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years and I think people started to think forget about it or think I was after this mythical thing

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that's in my imagination and that and then obviously in that day in 2006 when I caught it it's like

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boom you know 50 pounder it's like very big fish for its time as well so really common it it it

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changed the dynamic in that not not in that area but certainly on that lake that that that went

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from being you know for those out the area it's sort of rumored that there is a reasonable fish

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in there and yeah there's a 45 in there to suddenly why it's a 50 pound common and 50

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pound commons are huge yeah you know a 50 pound fish was massive but a 50 pound common in particular

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was you know and it sort of it it sort of shone the spotlight on it then a little bit yeah I

368
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,280
think I remember reading something that Paisley had wrote about you know we have record mirrors

369
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,720
and record commons in Europe why don't we have a record common in England and he said my capture

370
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:28,160
should have been a record common at the time but it's like which is you know that's like quite nice

371
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,920
for someone like him to have said about that you know and but yeah it did create a lot of interest

372
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,760
I think the I've messaged Ian Welsh because he is always very good the angling manager for CMX or

373
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,560
RMC at the time he's always very good to me so I let him know and he posted something up on their

374
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:50,480
forum yeah don't know if you remembered that forum yeah yeah and I'm told because once I caught the

375
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,680
common we'd done the photos I had a cup of tea packed my gear up and went that's me done it's

376
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,040
quite funny five years just for that moment gone yeah but I'm told the following day after it the

377
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,600
car parts around there were just rammed with people wanting to have a look around and all that like

378
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:12,400
it's wow what have I done it's weird isn't it you know you're you're you're very much old school and

379
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,880
reading about I think I don't know whether it's Rob Malan and the boys that started it but when

380
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,360
you've caught the biggest fish in the lake you pull off yeah you don't wade through them if your

381
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,640
target is the biggest fish in the lake and I sort of subscribe to that as well I think that kind of

382
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:33,760
comes from um your yatey days was it yatey so you know like say for instance North Lake only had

383
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,520
seven main fish in it and when you're talking seven fish you had basil which was a 40 pounder

384
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,040
which let's face it that's what everyone comes to catch they didn't travel from Manchester the

385
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:51,280
other side of Kent the west country to come and catch the 30 or the 20s they come for basil now

386
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:59,840
yeah we had basil the 30 I think you had four 20s and a couple of doubles that was the stock of the

387
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:07,360
lake so you catch basil you there's no rule but out of respect for the other anglers who are doing

388
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,200
the traveling and putting the time in you pull off because you don't want to catch it again you

389
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,800
don't become a dream breaker yeah I think there's only ever one angler that caught basil twice

390
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,920
I think he's not palsy or something like that he's a Robin Dixie's mate I think he caught it at a low

391
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,600
weight and as a 40 pounder yeah that's historic I think basil done 60 captures but yeah the thing

392
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:34,960
was pull off and if you did go back on there you was frowned upon now there are several lakes like

393
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,280
that still about low stock water small family a carp with one main target and the gentleman's

394
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,080
agreement with a red card as they call it yeah you go and realistically what you're trying to

395
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:52,000
prove by staying on there you just become a dream breaker don't you yeah nowadays some people try

396
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,320
and pull the red card on what I call super waters that have multiple stocks of big fish you know and

397
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,920
say like there's 20 odd 40s in a lake and you go on there and catch the bigger than your first fish

398
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:10,320
you spent whatever these days prices are inflated thousand pound ticket you do drop it yeah so

399
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,320
people tend to stay on and try and catch some of the other fish because you've bought into that

400
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,720
syndicate or whatever for say the 20 40s not just the one yeah a bit like you saying you fish for

401
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:27,360
the number of you know the size of fish you think right I want to go there because that's got 20

402
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:35,520
40s in it yeah and yeah it's a hard one to pull the red card thing I mean yeah the red card is a

403
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:42,240
circuit water saying and yeah yeah it is it it is a tricky one that you know the gentlemanly side

404
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,400
I think he's quite nice but like you say I think the the difference then is the stock yeah that

405
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:54,000
you know if it's if it's one standout and and low stocks then yeah maybe I'm being romantic and I

406
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:01,120
don't know I I had a I'd love a fair with Cassian for a very long time and I went down it and I just

407
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,360
fished it because I loved it I don't know if you've ever been but it's just no I've not no I remember

408
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,840
reading about it over the years from the early days of Hutchinson even Richie Mack went there

409
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,760
didn't he yeah it was it was just you know it was it was mecca it was very special and you know where

410
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,560
way eatly in Raysbury with the heart of UK fishing then then casting was the heart of continental

411
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,880
fishing and you know I went over that and I was lucky enough in I think it was 2016 the

412
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,400
caught the biggest fish in the lake it was one of the last original still in there a fish called

413
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,000
Bernadette yeah and and immediately sort of my dynamic changed with the place a little bit it

414
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,720
wasn't I don't know if you feel the same way but it's almost like you have done it now yeah

415
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,640
yeah and I've been back a couple of times but I don't fish it in the same way

416
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,920
no I mean I've had it myself with some waters like what I call super waters yeah you do catch the

417
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:57,440
big and say like a frimley with the charlie's mate for instance I'll call that as um funnily

418
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,440
enough I didn't catch the Burfield common as my first 40 common I caught Charlie's mate in

419
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,440
2003 or something 41 pound there was still wasn't many 40 pound commons back then but

420
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,440
then I I went back there several years later like when the ownership of the place changed and

421
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:21,440
I'm I actually recaptured Charlie's mate at 50 pounds eight like you're talking probably 17

422
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:27,440
years between captures yeah it's nice to see the old girl again but there's a different buzz

423
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:33,440
recapturing it yeah you know it's is but I was more for fishing for some of the others like your

424
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:39,120
your black eye and uh what's the other one Gregory yeah that was one I really wanted to catch out

425
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,720
of there you know but that place has evolved in time there was a lot of big fish in there you

426
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:49,760
know I think now something like three different 50 pound commons in there at the right time of

427
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,800
year you know and yeah again where'd you draw the line with it you know it's like it's surprising

428
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,560
actually when you when you've caught one how you feel an affinity to it you know you want you want

429
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,360
it but once you've caught it you almost feel like it's a friend yeah yeah and and and you know

430
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,840
if you do have a recapture of it it's like oh hello again yeah I mean do you talk to him I talk to

431
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,800
him oh you have your little muttering moments don't you I mean it's like again we'll always

432
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,960
end up talking about Yateley because it's so special now the North Lake the Low Stock you look

433
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:25,520
at it I can't remember 12 islands a spit you know bays and it's quite a daunting lake when you

434
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,400
thought there's only like amphalocarpia where are they this is a bit of a maze you know I've

435
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,560
fished a lot bigger mazes since like 100 acre burfield mazes sort of thing but yeah you kind

436
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,400
of like fishing it trying to work it all out trying to get in touch you see a fish you move

437
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,400
and that lot and um but it's so mad the moment when you you know like you lift the net around

438
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,800
basil and you know gazing down there you have your little moment wow Richard McDonald caught

439
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,120
this so-and-so's caught this you know the history of it obviously you're hooking next mouth and that

440
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,240
but then once your photos and everything's done and it's swum off and a few people depart and

441
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:04,960
you start packing your gear out you stand and look at the lake you think I'll work that out yeah it

442
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:10,240
almost seems like it's it's simple like the mystery's gone from it doesn't it yeah yeah

443
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:14,880
it's uh recaptures there's never the same buzz from it is there doesn't matter if they're bigger

444
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,160
or not no I don't think so it's it's funny when you like I don't I don't spend a lot of time on

445
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,240
the same waters I tend to I tend to bump around quite a lot just because of the nature of work

446
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:29,920
and it's always been us really um but I used to be a member of birch grove you know late 90s early

447
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,520
early 2000s and that for me at the time was arguably it was it was one of the best winter

448
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,360
waters in the country you know we had a winter syndicate November through to March there's a lot

449
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,600
of 30 pounders back then you know 30 pounds of a big fish there wasn't a 40 in there and it was

450
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,560
interesting because there's as there always is there was an a team of I don't know five or six

451
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,240
big fish in there and I can't remember I think I did three winters on there I can't remember

452
00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:01,680
having recaptures and actually ended up working away all the way through but not having a recapture

453
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,480
that's very good you know and it's it's it's weird isn't it you know whether or not they're learning

454
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:13,840
or whether whether when you've done something do you let me pose this one when you're on a lake

455
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,080
that you're fishing regularly as opposed to bouncing around are you doing the same thing in

456
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,800
the same swim so you know you've got the point swim and you know that 60 yards out there is a

457
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,640
bar and you've caught a couple of fish off that bar yeah when you've caught them on there do you

458
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:36,720
keep revisiting that bar or do you go somewhere else you tend to um I've been very guilty of it

459
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:44,080
before and it it's a tricky one sometimes on a lake that's not so busy and you can pre-bait and

460
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,760
work a swim you will keep revisiting them swims and you'll milk it for every bite and create a

461
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,840
playpen or if you get in there you know everything will come to you sort of thing obviously on busier

462
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,600
lakes like lakes and now nowadays are a lot busier you know you get rules you're not allowed to

463
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,720
pre-bait and things like that so I consider being out getting a swim two or three weeks on the trot

464
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:11,120
yeah a right result I'm just kind of relying up former sessions as pre-baiting don't you yeah

465
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,640
you do find yourself getting into that and I've found myself in recent years sometimes I think

466
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:24,320
that's been to my detriment because you recapture the same fish because they literally you think

467
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,000
right I need to be in you know that swim you know say like you say the point on in May because the

468
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,480
weeds up and you go in there and you know you're going to get bites you do get bites oh god it's

469
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,760
that one again you know and this year I kind of changed my tact I'm not fishing any swims

470
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,240
that I fished before because of that because I don't really want to keep capturing the same fish

471
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:49,200
but again I did have a recapture of a big fish this year but it kind of got in the way of what

472
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:56,560
I was after so but you you sort of I don't know I think these things are so often creatures of

473
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,840
habit you know I remember me and Crowe were fishing at Orchid and Dorchester you know on

474
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,680
the lagoon there and Crowe preferred Orchid you know it was slightly more of a pressured water

475
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,240
I've always liked the slightly wilder bigger waters that didn't have as much pressure on so

476
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:18,000
I like the Dorchester side right and I remember going down and there was a there was a 37 pound

477
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,400
common in there which again you know at that time was absolutely massive and it was a it was a big

478
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,000
lake it was 40 40 odd acres so you know it's not it's not a small not huge but not small

479
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,440
and this fella caught it and then he came back on his birthday because he caught it on his birthday

480
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,920
and he came back the following year on his birthday and just like for old time's sake I'm coming back

481
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,000
fish the same peg caught at the same fish on the same day under the same tree and that's that's

482
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:50,080
always stuck with me yeah these things do happen don't they? Basil's Bush yeah you know why was it

483
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,280
called Basil's Bush? Well it did get caught there a few times didn't it? I think I can remember one

484
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,200
I can't remember the angler but they actually might have been jot while something caught a snake

485
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:07,120
twice out of the crow on exactly the same day the following year you know yeah it happens too much

486
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,720
do happen you know I know some anglers that do fish off a calendar like that old Sunso fish was

487
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:18,240
caught out of that swim off that spot on this day last year and they'll be in there you know

488
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:24,960
I've actually put myself in areas like that but there's like you say masters their own environment

489
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,200
there's a reason why certain areas of the lake attract carp at certain times of the year and

490
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,920
however it's the weed coverage the natural food or anything it's absolutely it's all part of the

491
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,080
bigger picture talk to me about the capture of the burfield common how did you actually catch it?

492
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:46,240
Well again my great memory of seeing it feeding in certain areas over the years I was on there

493
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:51,920
and but the actual build-up to that capture started at the end of April when I was circling

494
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,880
the lake on my bike yeah because it was faster to get around it on a bike and look at different

495
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:04,960
areas but I'd opted to fish down the shallow end but a friend of mine Alan Welsh was fishing in

496
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,920
the first shallow swim and rather than go opposite him on the blue pool side yeah I sort of fished

497
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:15,520
slightly off the shallows in a swim called the blocks I think it was and the reason I wanted to

498
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,320
be there as well I was chatting to Alan I see a bit of bubbling out in the shallows and you know

499
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,280
it's like yeah I'd really like to go at them but he is leave him to it you know with respect it's

500
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:30,160
a hundred acres you don't sit up next to someone on an empty hundred acre pit there you give them

501
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:36,480
a bit of space etiquette you know it's that word that we all use but some you know actually

502
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,520
practice in etiquette and I remember the next morning I got up and I wandered just up the bank

503
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,240
I was feeling a little bit tired because I've watched me water for a bit just drinking a couple

504
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:50,480
of cups of tea but I was feeling a bit tired but I decided to make a coffee and I wandered up the

505
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,920
bank now I don't often drink coffee but I believe that a cup of coffee I still remember it to this

506
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,280
day was the reason that the build-up started but I needed something to keep me awake and I remember

507
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,680
walking up the bank with it and I was looking across the shallows towards Alan scanning the

508
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:11,520
area where I'd seen the bubbles from his swim and there was bubbles pinging to the surface in that

509
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:17,760
area and literally while I stood there watching it and sipping my coffee I see a big fish come out

510
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,440
like it literally showed itself boss and I thought wow that was it wasn't it and literally as I was

511
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,640
thinking that was it it's come up again and then again and it sort of showed three different ways

512
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,280
it didn't come the same sort of way it's that way that way that so it's like here I am you know

513
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,040
showing myself so and you know that that's the Burfield common at the time yeah well there's

514
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,760
no mistake there's no other big at the time when I fished Burfield there was probably five other

515
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,400
fish over 30 pound in that lake you know and nothing okay so that's definitely you know that's

516
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,680
a one-off I used to call it a freak of nature Terry said it's a wonder of nature yeah which

517
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:58,400
I think Terry is probably a bit more just insane yeah but um it's like I remember a bit later on

518
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,920
I was like well I need to get it you know I'm gonna have to go in now I'm not gonna cast long

519
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,600
though I'll cast a bit short because I'm not casting on top of Al he wasn't fishing fully on

520
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:15,840
it he'd clearly see this fish as well and it's quite it's all part of the story but me and our

521
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,640
good friends we never spoke about the fishing on the lake it's kind of an agreement between us we

522
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,080
shared the sailing club like as our sort of lodge yeah where our freezers and everything was but um

523
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:33,120
I remember moving in there opposite him and I just put some bright ones on chod rigs I think I spoke

524
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,320
to Dave Lane on the phone the day before so you know like I said you know when I cast him out I

525
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,240
said um you know I was just stuck at two in a pineapple and he's going do you think I'll have

526
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,320
that you know I'll call him out here before like why not you know I'll stick him out for the day

527
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,640
and put some food baits out for the night and yeah put the rods out sort of whipped them in in the

528
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,880
evening puts the food baits on scattered a little bit of bait out I think the next morning I woke

529
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,040
up to a 26 pounder full right I've got the rigs right everything in the area just got to keep

530
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,440
focusing on it and I think over the next three weeks I see a couple of instances of the water

531
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:13,200
moving like someone waddling plank you know over a bar in the shallows um I'd caught a couple of

532
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,840
other fish as well and I just if I was either in the swim that I'd caught the first one from where

533
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,560
I'd seen it show or opposite where I was fishing he for some reason was fishing elsewhere on the

534
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:28,080
lake yeah he did and which is like I don't know whether he realized what at the time sort of thing

535
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:34,080
but I just kept you know keep going in that area throwing sticking bait around that center where

536
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:41,360
you could hear it from both sides and um yeah the build-up was the session I think I set up the

537
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,800
wind went up the other end I moved up the other end and the wind sort of turned around it come

538
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,600
back down so I went back around to the original swim I see it show from the following morning

539
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,960
caught a classic carp now that fish has been caught several times several times it had history

540
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,240
of Dan caught it with a common yeah catch that fish the commons about and I remember I stood in

541
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:04,160
the blocks talking to me mate John when I had the take off that and I've heard a bleep it's locked up

542
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,080
fishing tight clutches with chods a bit of a tip fish tight clutches on chods because you want the

543
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,760
lead to pull up to the hook link on the take I remember just seeing a bow wave leave the area

544
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,360
and another one go the other way so I thought what else was when I got it in like it's classic

545
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,640
what else was there it could be it you know that was a big bow wave left the spot and that was a

546
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,960
repeat capture you've got to keep going through them again and again get the rods back out I think

547
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,040
the next morning woke up to the double belly which was the biggest mirror in the lake 34 pound yeah

548
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,240
wow I'm close here and I couldn't recast the rod because there was scum all over the surface I

549
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:48,160
needed south westly to blow it all away and when the wind picked up and the water ski boat come out

550
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:54,400
it cleared you know basically whip the rod back out I'd actually had to put a bigger hook on because

551
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,520
I'd run out of size fives at the time so I put a size four on cast you know checked it in the

552
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,040
margins cast it out and then at midday while I was dozing on my bed chair because of the two fish

553
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,600
I'd caught I think I was four days into the session I thought I need to help this swim because I'm

554
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,120
close yeah how you think that after five years of plowing your way through the fish again and again

555
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,760
but I was thinking I think I had a little bit of water I thought the only way I can survive until

556
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,280
it's dark is I need to go to sleep and preserve my water and then I'll nip home and get some

557
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,200
provisions to stay in the swim and literally I was dozing on my bed chair and them two previous fish

558
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,360
hadn't taken line off the clutch had just pinged it out of clip and I woke up to a one-noter and I

559
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,520
kind of knew didn't even put my trainers on or anything I just bent into this fish and

560
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,880
very powerful here we go yeah like playing a conger and epic battle involving steering it

561
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,440
from two islands and it's snagging me in the bush to the margins big explosions and that and

562
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,960
there she was I mean that you know job done incredible yeah and the feeling when it you know

563
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:06,480
when when your target whatever your target is goes over that net cord yeah is just I don't know I'm

564
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:12,320
gonna I'm gonna say it's a good one but for me um it's actually relief yeah first and foremost

565
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,520
you don't get the you get you get a squirt of elation like yes that's like oh for that

566
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:23,680
hmm don't you yeah that you know at last I've got it or you know you've you've hit the target

567
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,240
whatever it might be I remember during the battle when I got it on a shorter line and it was kiting

568
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:33,600
to me right and I knew there's a snagged bush to the right yeah and I was just winding like trusting

569
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,680
me tackle giving it everything and I'm in think don't go in that bush don't go in that bush and

570
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:44,560
it did right but I remember as it come past me your mind's racing and you know it's everything

571
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:50,320
goes into slow motion because you're thinking quickly and I remember just seeing it perfectly

572
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,840
as if it was out of the water in front of me that is it this is your chance it's on like you know

573
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:02,880
do not yeah yeah yeah it's that sort of thing and uh you know it's like I was talking to myself don't

574
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,880
move your foot in keep your feet where they are that you know don't like once it's in the bush

575
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,560
just you know it's rolling about fortunately it was well looked chod rig and the lead was in its

576
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:20,640
mouth so nothing would hang up yeah thing you know yeah all right that so this the psychology

577
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,640
of big fish angling is one thing the psychology of playing a big fish is another thing as well

578
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,120
isn't it I don't know if this is just me and I'll throw this I've never spoken to anybody about this

579
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,840
is all at all but I think sometimes you can talk the fish off in your own mind and sometimes you

580
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,560
can keep it on in your own mind and there's a huge amount of positive mental attitude when you're

581
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,560
playing that big fish you know when the fight is gone on for just that little bit longer than you

582
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,760
want it to you think oh yeah I'm really enjoying this oh yeah it's a good fish and you think right

583
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,520
now it's time yeah and then you see it and it boggles off another 20 yards back out again you

584
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,080
think oh god it's going to come off yeah and there's been a few times where I think it's going to come

585
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:59,920
off it's going to come off it's going to come off and guess what it's come off and and you know it

586
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,680
can't be because I was thinking it was going to come off and it's actually come off but there's

587
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,240
other times I think right you'll know you're not coming off and I don't know whether it's mindset

588
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:13,440
or what but that you know I'd have given recently and again it was a it was a huge fight you know

589
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:19,440
one of those the unstoppable run the the big scrap all of this like it's gone into some reads I just

590
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,960
thought this is going to come off and then I just thought no don't think like that it's definitely

591
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,600
not going to come off yeah you know and I think sometimes you can talk it off in your own mind

592
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,960
sometimes yeah you can do I mean I'm a bit boring when it comes to rigs they use the same old rigs

593
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,880
obviously is and you know they're fine tuned and that and I know how much stick I can give them

594
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,880
general rule is you know say a hinged stiff rig one of my favorites or a chog rig if they stay on

595
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:51,440
more than 10 seconds they're coming in yeah unless you hit snags or you know like pad stems or

596
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,080
whatever you know but there's different ways of playing fish in different situations and they

597
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,400
you know you're sorry well again I was I was talking with a fellow the other day about hook

598
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,520
patterns I don't think there's a bad hook pattern out there I think all of the hooks that you know

599
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,360
there's very rarely a bad hook but I do think there are certain hook patterns that don't suit

600
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,920
certain people's playing styles very true setup or not true you know and people turn around and go

601
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,080
oh Nash hooks are crap or Fox hooks are crap or whatever hooks are crap it's like no actually

602
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,480
they're not they just don't suit your playing style yeah the setup you've got yeah or the certain

603
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:26,160
notch you use to tie the hooks or any the fine tuning of it and absolutely small margins add up

604
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,480
don't they and I think this is perhaps being slightly more old school when you've got something

605
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,360
you know you say you're fairly boring with your rigs actually you're not boring at all because

606
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,720
you know what works yeah and I bet you haven't changed your hooks for god knows how long or you

607
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:43,600
haven't changed your rigs for long as I have experiment but these days like say years ago

608
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,720
when you know the hinged rig start came out everyone was on drennen boiler yooks and that

609
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:54,000
lot now I've never really liked boiler yooks I used to lose fish on them yeah maybe like you say

610
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,600
didn't suit my playing style I have yeah but everyone was on them I prefer a straight pointed

611
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,040
hook so I used to get a super specialist and slowly bend the eye out slightly on them same as

612
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:11,040
like the boiler yook had the out turned back eye then it evolves almost a crossover of them to like

613
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:18,240
a super specialist and a boiler yook evolved into a stiff rigger the esp stiff rigger and now

614
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,360
I don't think there's a terminal tackle company out there that doesn't do what's now called a

615
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,880
chod hook which evolved from a stiff rigger sort of thing you know and let's face it most are good

616
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,680
and they I've used pretty much most of them yeah there's a fashion these days that hooks have

617
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:40,240
micro barbs and micro barbs are getting so small the mites will not be a barb so you know it's like

618
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:47,680
again what do you do about that do you play them harder I don't know yeah I think I think you just

619
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:53,040
know don't you you know you know very quickly I know what hooks work for me uh I don't know what

620
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,720
hooks don't work for me and and and sometimes for some reason I don't know why I might be swayed

621
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,600
and and this isn't targeting fish this is just going to fish as well I might be swayed to try

622
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,560
something else for a reason you know straight away whether or not it's right or wrong yeah uh and and

623
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,840
I think when you've when you've been around the track a little bit it's very hard to pry you off

624
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,760
what you've done it's not we're boring we just know what works yeah but talking about what works

625
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,880
big fish bait do you believe that there is bait that can target big fish or do you just think

626
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:26,960
that carp will eat anything I used to think that I mean spin the clock back again we go back to

627
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:35,200
80 now when I went to 80 from the match lake right through to the cops car part north lake pads lake

628
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,120
caught them all and I caught them all fairly quickly I think the longest campaign was a

629
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,800
pads lake five months it took me to catch that one out of there but generally on the match lake

630
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,280
and the cops lake I caught the better fish I didn't catch the smaller ones but I use

631
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:56,400
fish meal baits now I owe this to the likes of Terry Pathbridge from the old yahoo crew like they

632
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:02,000
you know me and my mates like maggot and paul toy like we used to use bird food baits we used I

633
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,960
think I forget I think we used to get it off a bloke called uh Rob McGill an old 80 veteran

634
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,000
and he used to be called the 80 hit squad mix like a bird food bait and we did all right and

635
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,840
that is a good bait it caught a lot of good fish and um but when we got talking to Terry Pathbridge

636
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:24,400
as youngsters and told him we was fishing like a 60 acre lake 16 fish in it like um Hawley lake

637
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:32,400
um he was interested because they were old leanies and he's like you know he's like a bit I don't

638
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,040
know bold sort of bloke you know like you want to get on a fish mill for his like premier fish mills

639
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:42,560
and you know put you know cat full to each egg in it and cat full to each egg on it like lug them

640
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,720
up with fish oils get them out there and we we caught them fishing a couple of weeks once we

641
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,440
started using fish mills and this sort of carried on through me fishing you know when you find

642
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,000
something that works like you've been doing all right but then all of a sudden it accelerates

643
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,200
you know you think you stick with that and that worked into Yateley a few years later and I went

644
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,120
through them and funnily enough when I met Terry he used to use like a bird food or a nut meal bait

645
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:14,880
and Terry for instance I caught 15 fish out the match lake that year Terry caught 40 carp from the

646
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,680
match lake and the cop site just doing afternoon sessions and stalking but he tended to catch the

647
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:25,040
smaller ones he's struggled to get through them and like into the bigger ones I wouldn't say

648
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,880
Terry struggled because he never struggled and I remember when he went over to the North Lake

649
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,840
to hunt basil like he was still using that same sort of bait and I remember him asking me about

650
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:43,360
it and at the time Jeff Pink had sorted me and Terry out a deal with Nashi like and I'd moved

651
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:49,600
on from Premier and Cotswold baits I'd moved on to like um Nash monster pursuit so I looked

652
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,920
through what Nashi did he had the sting and I know Tench liked that for some reason so I thought I'll

653
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,120
go for this monster pursuit that worked well on the cops lake caught the big ones quick out of there

654
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:05,360
and then Terry's like I don't know that bait you were using and I don't know if you remember the

655
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:12,080
myth that um Basil used to like a bait with Robin Red in it didn't he? Yeah yeah yeah so Terry got

656
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,760
hold of the monster pursuit and I think he introduced Robin Red to it or he might have

657
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,800
mixed it with a sting to give it that red tinge and it you know straight away he started catching

658
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,200
I don't know what I think he used Cajun prawn and shellfish sense appeal with these flavors

659
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:33,120
yeah I was using lobster firmador and salmon oil palate yeah you know and I think regular

660
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:39,920
sense appeal at the time but um again I just carried on catch the big fish carp at Lake Bank

661
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:45,120
you know Heather's my first bite, Singlescale's my second bite, the Big Common's my third bite,

662
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,200
fourth bite, Singlescale again you know it's like bang bang bang going for them big ones then I call

663
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,400
it half on it you know so at the time you're convinced it's fish meals fish meals for the men

664
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,240
sweeties for the boys you know you keep your bird foods and all your sweet flavored baits catch

665
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:07,280
some more fish but I think nowadays it's probably evolved a bit but I do think when we was younger

666
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,600
in the 80s and you make your own bait you make your own recipes roll your own bait each week

667
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,640
and you tweak it and that you try and outfish your mates and you don't tell them what you've done

668
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,080
whether you're up to your flavor levels or lowered them and all this that and the other

669
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:26,320
those sort of days are in a massive scale these days say like I've gone on quite a hard late

670
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:32,080
like meal only yatey in the past with a nutmill bait everyone's zig fishing I'm catching them

671
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,640
I'm fishing tight lines with rigs on the bottom so they think I'm zigging as well I'm using hinge

672
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:44,560
rigs thrown sticking nutmill baits out there all seven fish then all of a sudden everyone

673
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,200
realizes I'm catching off the bottom so everyone else goes on the bottom and they're all using

674
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:56,800
I think at the time maybe something like the krill was the in-bait like a few years back

675
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,600
and so everyone starts gunning the krill and my catch rate goes straight down because they got

676
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:08,080
a better food source fish meal yeah and like my light sweetie attractor bait yeah it's not outfishing

677
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:14,240
them it's on a bigger scale to the old ways yeah it's funny I think that you know when there's

678
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,080
when there's a lot of good quality bait around us there is now it's a lot harder to stand out

679
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,760
on your bait yeah definitely which is which is where I you know personally I'm quite fond of

680
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,640
liquids a lot of the time yeah I think that's the future and the liquids yeah you can you can

681
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,600
jazz things up and just make it you know not not just more attractive but more nutritionally

682
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:36,080
superior definitely by putting some of the the fantastic liquids around but I don't think the

683
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,840
say the 80s when we used to make our own recipes all these different fish meals were available you

684
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:47,360
could have capes in me or sardine meal macromill and you don't really see them now it's all lt 94

685
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,080
or whatever that's it well I we I don't know about you but we used to get our surprise expense up in

686
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,160
up in Fleetwood he was the main fish mill manufacturer for the whole of the country

687
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,840
and they went bust a few years ago and as a result now I think a lot of stuff's imported in and it

688
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:04,160
is literally this is it that's fish meal you know you could get all of these different types

689
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,560
you know you could you could like shrimp meal as a primary example it was great for

690
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,560
altering the buoyancy on the bay wasn't it there's all sorts of things but too much in it floated

691
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,200
off in the wind and absolutely and people people don't quite have the understanding of bait that

692
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,280
they used to have but actually they don't need it it's a little bit like engines yeah you know

693
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,840
in the in the in the car world you used to have to know how your car worked because the chances are

694
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:31,360
the bloody thing would break down yeah whereas now you know you you give a mechanic a computer

695
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,520
20 years ago he wouldn't know how to do with it you give a mechanic a spanner now he doesn't know

696
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,720
what to do with it because well I thought of you know grew up in an age of you know your car

697
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,840
spluttering a bit you take the distributor cap off yeah scratch the old things up with wd put it back

698
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,560
on off you go again now you lift the bonnet up you know there's a cover where's the battery

699
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,120
it's in the boot exactly that but you know it's that it's that evolution it's that need to know

700
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,280
basis but you know talking about bait because you're obviously now without a little pro anyway

701
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,640
you've had quite a few fish on on our bait recently you're doing quite well with that

702
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:08,000
yeah I mean I think it's almost six months a day since I joined um I probably didn't join at the

703
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,240
best time to be switching bait companies yeah I mean like uh and I was fishing the water didn't

704
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:20,880
have a great um you know winter form so I was up against it but I needed that confidence I

705
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,120
went to a runs water bang straight away like two different baits I think I used the

706
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,720
attract natural and the kriller that was on your recommendation when I come up actually and

707
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,440
I found the kriller worked there so straight away I'm confident in that went on this other wall with

708
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:41,760
very low winter form managed to catch a few out of there so my confidence is scaling up now I'm

709
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:48,480
on my main target water and I think I'm 19 nights in over seven weeks and I've caught 19 fish from

710
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:54,160
there so I mean I'm not catching a fish per night it's not you know sometimes I don't catch

711
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,400
a night and then I might catch two the next night or three you know that's how it goes but the

712
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,440
average is good and you know I'm not on the kriller still is it that's on the kriller and

713
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,280
I've sort of got out again old school we like freezer bait don't we all the old school boys

714
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:14,160
you look at shelf life as we used to call it brick life and all that that's changed a lot

715
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:19,360
and yeah you know what I find the ease of using shelf life these days it's so much you can have

716
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,760
it in the car spare you don't you don't feel like you've got to throw it in the lake because it's

717
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:29,280
going to go off you know take it home if you don't use it you know well it's a lot more it's a lot

718
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,320
more usable as well because when you defrost a bait if you don't defrost it right then actually

719
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,000
it can become soggy you know in the bag the bottom of the bag is always going to be too much water in there

720
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,720
however however well you've kept your bait in the freezer actually you know when you defrost it you

721
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,200
can you can not spoil it that's the wrong word but you can affect how it behaves oh yeah which is why

722
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,880
these you know the the shelf life baits works well we're saying earlier about the old using fish oils

723
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:58,640
to glug your baits up and that if you throw oil on the frozen bait it goes all buttery and horrible

724
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:04,000
don't it so you kind of find that you have to fool your bait out for a day get rid of excess water

725
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,800
so it's not you know like it's the moisture that makes your bait go mouldy at the end of the day

726
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:14,640
and yes and um but yeah with these shelf life baits you just pop the lid on the bucket put your

727
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:20,080
glug in shake it up like so you do it a couple of days before let it soak in add more to it

728
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,040
are you glugging it with salmon oil i'm i started off just glugging it with acrylic glug

729
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,280
but now the water's warmer i'm introducing a bit of salmon oil in it as well that's the

730
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:34,080
that's the one it sucks it in they're not rock hard they're they're nice baits i'm impressed to be

731
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,720
honest with shelf life bait yeah that's that's the one the mix of the two the the glug through the cold

732
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,680
months and you're doing exactly the right thing you know as soon as you get that salmon oil on it

733
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,960
as well it just it you know salmon oil is an absolute classic but i i have this thing in

734
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,440
particular that um you know coming up to spawning time they have a certain type of nutritional

735
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,640
requirement as soon as they've spawned actually they want to bulk back up again and then is the

736
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,880
time for high oil baits you know and then as soon as the water gets too hot as soon as you're getting

737
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:06,320
towards august actually i sort of drop that oil down a little bit again but there's there's like

738
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:14,400
a six-week window now where you know smash it in with a lot of blood oil and they just absolutely

739
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:20,400
horse it down kind of works a bit like a hatch don't you see your area pinging with it yeah it's

740
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,240
mad on the subject of bait nige has been out and he's been catching quite a few fish recently we

741
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,760
just heard that he's been doing quite well on our bait but you know don't just listen to us here

742
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:33,680
if you are watching on youtube have a look at this which is nige out talking about how good the bait

743
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,480
is if you're listening to this on the podcast do check out our youtube channel because there's a

744
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:44,480
brilliant film of nige talking about using our bait what's the future for for nige shark where

745
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,640
do you go now you've you've got the one that you're looking for you've had an awful lot of

746
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:54,640
really big target fish through your period anyway what is the future you're after the

747
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,600
you're after the farnham flint biggie have you got your eye on another fish after that or is it a

748
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:04,800
case of you're so tunnel vision that this is it you're not moving do you do you fish anywhere else

749
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,680
i know winter's a bit different because you get some bites and you'll carry on as per

750
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,800
with me target yeah i'm not saying i'm going to catch it this year or whatever if it gets caught

751
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:21,680
i might have a little excursion elsewhere you know and rethink it come back it depends like if it got

752
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,920
caught say in the next couple of weeks yeah i'll give it a break for a couple of weeks and then i'll

753
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,920
go back and carry on autumn captures once it gets caught that's it it's wrote off and it but

754
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:39,360
these days since the covid and the furlough period when angling exploded quite a lot of clubs and

755
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:45,280
lakes it's hard to get tickets in it so i've always been one over the years i'd never join them or i'll

756
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:50,080
never put my name on a waiting list and that's not because i'm specially privileged and expect to be

757
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:56,480
given the golden key i'd just look at lakes with waiting lists as being busy so you know it's not

758
01:08:56,480 --> 01:09:02,320
a bit of me but i found myself becoming a hypocrite because i've had to put my name down on a few lists

759
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,480
and i've managed to acquire tickets because i've done it quickly before the list got too long

760
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,560
you have to buy these tickets although they're sitting in your pocket doing nothing because

761
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:18,240
i know a few people who've become very focused on a water and they've not bought any other tickets

762
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,240
and they've either caught that fish or that fish has died or they've even got nowhere to go or

763
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,240
they've even been banned from the water and then they're like what do i do i've got no way to fish

764
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:31,360
yeah well you can't help you mate you can't just go and buy a club ticket you know it's a huge

765
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:36,240
expense now isn't it you know things like that the the ticket that you've got for the one that you

766
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:41,280
want to fish is expensive enough but having another one in the pipe that's you know and it could be

767
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:48,400
three years well you look at it it's like relatively cheap for the ticket i hold for

768
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:54,560
you know the pinchwood area whatever call them lakes that's what the ticket is called like

769
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:01,440
i think that's 350 quid for the night ticket right and um which is quite a lot of money but

770
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:07,200
it's not when you think say a day ticket venue i'm not too in touch with day tickets don't frequent

771
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:12,400
them in the summer but generally i think you're looking at anything up to about 40 quid for an

772
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:18,240
average day 30 quid is your starter it can go up to 45 quid by the time you've done 10 nights on a

773
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:24,320
day ticket water that's your 350 quid ticket paid for and it depends how much fishing you do a year

774
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:30,640
really doesn't it yeah yeah no absolutely so well look good luck yeah with uh with your quest i

775
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,960
don't think it's going to be long i think you can have it this summer i think it doesn't come out

776
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:41,520
yet this year not yet no so what is it twice a year fish yeah i'd say that yeah yeah it's got

777
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:48,640
your name on it mate yeah there we go it is always interesting getting inside the mind of any of our

778
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:54,640
guests and i'm sure you'll agree that sharpie's mind is absolutely brilliant a really nice insight

779
01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:01,280
into both the history of carp fishing and also some huge historic carp and targets for the future

780
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,040
as well so whatever you're fishing for just remember go out there go for it it is your time

781
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,680
it's your opportunity hope you've enjoyed this podcast we will be back with another one very

782
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,600
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784
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