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So let's dive in.

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As always this week is overflowing with tremendously interesting things that have happened.

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And I'm going to just very briefly cover a couple of them before we dive into the main

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topic.

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So you may have heard that over in Russia, the Kremlin was struck by two different drones.

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Understand that the Kremlin is like the White House.

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It's like parliament.

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It's the building that is the head of the government of Russia.

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And there's a lot of the fog of war surrounding this story.

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Just understand the severity of the allegations being made though.

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Now of course there's a possibility this entire thing is fake, but let's assume that indeed

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there were drones that struck the Kremlin.

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Well you've got Russia who has come out and accused Ukraine, I believe as a surrogate

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for the United States, as having attempted to assassinate Russian President Vladimir

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Putin.

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Now I don't know what evidence they provided thus far.

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This is an unfolding story, but I just wanted to share a couple of headlines as I found

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them that sort of paint a picture on how the West, quote unquote, our side is reacting

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to this.

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You have false flag?

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Journalists say Russia likely staged Kremlin drone attack it blamed on Ukraine and the

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West.

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Now understand what is being suggested there and understand once again that this is equivalent

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to the White House or to Canadian parliament being attacked.

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And if the suggestion here is that Russia would conduct an attack on its own capital,

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well isn't that interesting?

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I suppose that affirms the premise that the United States government might conduct a false

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flag attack on its own capital.

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Perhaps the capital itself.

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Of course the equivalent being the White House and that's not quite what happened on January

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6th for example.

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Or for example a staged attack on Canadian parliament.

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The point is these are not assertions that would be made lightly in reverse.

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So it is interesting to see that that is in fact the analysis being put forward.

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Now perhaps there's some interesting discussion to be had there.

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I'm not sure.

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But another headline, Russia is canceling Victory Day celebrations to hide its military

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losses and is using alleged Kremlin drone strike as an excuse, experts say.

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So I'll be curious to see who these analysts and experts are when I have a little more

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time to pursue that this evening.

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I did want to direct you however to a discussion I thought was very informative, very productive,

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even if it is speculative.

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And this was held by the Duran.

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They had a live stream titled Let's Talk About Drones Hitting the Kremlin.

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This is Alexander, Alex and Alexander, I can't remember their last names, of the Duran.

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And a friendly reminder that all of these will be available in the show notes once I

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complete them and publish them shortly after this video today.

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So that's that's the craziness of Russia and Ukraine.

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But unfortunately, things continue to be crazy over in the nation of France.

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We haven't talked about this very much.

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But you may have heard that, well, people aren't very happy with one Emmanuel Macron,

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who fairly recently pushed through by dictate a reform to to retirement or to to pension.

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And the details of this, of course, are not my area of expertise.

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However, it's quite clear the French people are not happy.

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They weren't happy before they weren't likely to support this new change to pension law.

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And that is, in fact, apparently why the Macron government decided to push through by such

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heavy handed dictate.

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And the result is protests across the country, which have been going on, I believe, virtually

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every day for weeks now.

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And the headline from France 24 that I had pulled up is Independent Report slams indiscriminate

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arrests at French pension protests.

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So apparently they're indiscriminate arrests.

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Now thankfully, in Canada, we're not dealing with with violence of any kind.

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No, in fact, we're dealing simply with protests.

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Now this is very relevant for more reasons than some people may think.

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So federal employees strike continues to shut down Canada.

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Now stop me if you've heard this one before.

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Now, employees of the government of Canada, for those who don't know, are on strike.

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And a lot of them are still on strike, effectively shutting down aspects of the country in the

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process, shutting down the ability for parts of the country to function.

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On April 7, 2023, the Public Service Alliance of Canada announced that its membership of

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Canada Revenue Agency employees voted overwhelmingly in favour of taking strike action on behalf

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of 35,000 workers represented by the Union of Taxation Employees and the Public Service

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Alliance of Canada.

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And they were joined on April 12 by a second group called the Treasury Board.

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Okay, so it's not just tax employees, but they are a large portion of that strike.

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As has been widely noted, of course, the decision to go on strike at this exact moment makes

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life very difficult for Canadians given that the tax deadline, the deadline to file your

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federal income tax was May 1.

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And for whatever reason, calls to extend that deadline for this year have been entirely

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dismissed.

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No one wants to hear it.

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Now there was some headline news that had people thinking maybe this had been resolved.

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But no, while the Treasury Board staff managed to strike a deal with the government on May

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1, the Canada Revenue Agency employees were not included in that deal and remain on strike.

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As a result, according to Global News, I quote, UTE National President Marc Briere told reporters

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Wednesday, it's been a rough couple of weeks for taxpayers and those who help them file,

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and the effects of the strike would be long lasting.

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They went through a hell of a time, and I think that some people are late.

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So there's an impact and there will be a big backlog, he said.

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There's already a backlog, but if the strike doesn't get resolved, it's going to be a

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tremendous backlog at the CRA.

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So this goes without saying, and the point is, it's not just the people who process the

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returns once they're in, it's also the people who help Canadians file their taxes.

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I just want to point out, it seems we've got a wonderful robust discussion going on in

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the locals chat.

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That's absolutely fantastic.

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Thank you all.

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I will read these after the episode, but continue to discuss away.

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And I'll lots of protests in Israel too.

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I don't know the details, but just another example of people protesting.

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Jen, thank you actually for contributing that.

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That is very true, and I believe it has to do with Netanyahu attempting to do something

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that is unpopular, but I do not remember.

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Anyway, moving on, the demands set out.

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What are they asking for?

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So the demand set out by the PSAC, Public Servants Alliance of Canada, in their strike

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action began with asking for a 13.5% raise in order to match inflation.

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Can you believe inflation officially is apparently 13.5%?

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As well as the flexibility to work remotely, the reduction of the government's use of

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outside contractors and the implementation of seniority rules in the event of layoffs.

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So look, aside from the very real difficulties caused to Canadian citizens by the mere act

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of the CRA going on strike, the PSAC has celebrated the actions by the picketers to, quote, shut

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down critical infrastructure across the country completely unrelated to taxation.

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In one such thread, discussing their various escalated strike actions, the PSAC boasted

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that they had shut down the ports of Vancouver, Montreal, and St. John's, blockaded the Treasury

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Board office in Ottawa, and other strategic locations from coast to coast.

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Now, while the right to go on strike, as far as I can tell, is fundamental to liberal democracy

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as we have it here in Canada, many incredulous onlookers are pointing out the utter hypocrisy

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highlighted by this particular action as compared to the violent response to the Freedom Convoy

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2022 protest in Ottawa.

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And related protests, of course, across Canada, which remember, they were accused of blockading

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critical infrastructure and shutting down border crossings, which this protest is doing

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at significantly higher levels.

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The example of a tweet I provided here from someone replying, send the cavalry, freeze

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bank accounts, and throw them in jail.

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Now, I read that as sarcasm.

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That's a very valid point.

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Realistically, the takeaway message here is not that the CRA employees on strike are crossing

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a line by going on strike or engaging in these strike related actions.

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Although I suppose one could argue even this is going too far.

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I'm not sure.

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Maybe it comes down to matter of opinion.

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But instead, this serves, I believe, as a reminder that such actions to disrupt the

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status quo of the day to day of government operations is not at all unexpected in a strike

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action like this.

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Let this serve, perhaps, then, as an opportunity to revisit the unlawful and authoritarian response

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to the Freedom Convoy once again.

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And to remind those around us of the absurdity highlighted by the drastic contrast in institutional

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treatment of the two.

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On the other hand, one can't help but wonder if there are details not far below the surface

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that may shed light on matters.

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I wonder how many times I've used that line.

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Well, PSAC, I learned, is partnered with the Canadian Labour Congress.

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In fact, I believe it is part of the Canadian Labour Congress, as well as the Association

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of Public Service Alliance Retirees.

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Now, as it turns out, I had previously stumbled on this Canadian Labour Congress in research

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into an initiative called Faster Together, of which the Canadian Labour Congress is a

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partner.

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Now, Faster Together describes itself as, quote, a voluntary effort of a wide variety

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of people working together to promote COVID-19 vaccine acceptance and help speed a recovery

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from this pandemic.

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FasterTogether.ca, go check them out.

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Well, other partners of this COVID-19 vaccine promotion initiative, in their words, are

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employers from across Canada.

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This includes the country's universities, labour unions, trade associations, sports

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teams, cities, towns, district municipalities, banks, insurance companies, you name it.

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Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, they're all there.

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The biotechnology industry is also well represented by their own industry association, Biotech

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Canada, as well as the Pfizer and or Moderna, depending on the organization, funded 19

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to 0, the Bioscience Association Manitoba and Life Sciences British Columbia.

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So maybe I'm overestimating the impact of the lobby, call it the pharmaceutical lobby,

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call it the pro-COVID agenda lobby, I don't care.

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But there's a lobby there.

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And it could be that I'm overestimating the impact that it could have or did have in an

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extended network like this.

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On the other hand, perhaps it is not so surprising after all that one of these groups of federally

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regulated employees receive better treatment than the other, especially given that one

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was protesting the forced, coerced, mandatory acceptance of this particular pharmaceutical

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product.

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Anyway, on the note of things not going so hot in Canada on that front, the National

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Citizens Inquiry in Vancouver.

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So from Tuesday to Thursday this week, the National Citizens Inquiry or NCI made its

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stop in Langley, British Columbia, just outside of Vancouver for the Vancouver arm of the

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national tour.

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For those unaware, the NCI is a non-governmental, citizen-run and self-funded or investigation

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campaign you might say, looking into Canada's handling of the declared COVID-19 pandemic,

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hearing testimony from hundreds of professionals and everyday citizens.

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I, myself, I was personally able to attend days one and three, hearing firsthand some

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of the most impressive and impactful stories and presentations that have come out of the

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last three years.

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Now I have on screen just a sampling of those presentations.

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Top left we have Matthew Evans-Cockle, top right we have Deanna MacLeod, bottom left

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is me and bottom right is Gail Davidson.

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I highly recommend going and watching each of them.

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Matthew talked a bit about conflicts of interest and the way that our universities, the way

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we think of them versus what they actually do, the ideological and financial conflicts

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there.

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It was tremendously interesting.

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Deanna revisited the Pfizer inoculations do more harm than good video that went so viral

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and got Dr. Robert Malone kicked off Twitter that exposed that even the clinical trials

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run for the Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine showed quite literally that the products cause

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more harm than good before they were even rolled out to the rest of the world.

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I talked a little bit about, well I'll explain in a second, and Gail talked about the international

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human right obligations that Canada has failed to meet and in fact most countries around

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the world have failed to meet.

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And it presented a really interesting conundrum that perhaps we'll revisit another time.

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I highly recommend watching.

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Now some of you may recall, so why was I there?

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I'm no expert.

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Some of you may recall in June of 2022 I was invited to participate in an event titled

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a citizens hearing in Toronto Ontario.

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My flight left Vancouver mere hours after the federal restriction on travel for citizens

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deemed to be unvaccinated, whatever that means, was suspended.

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In my role as secretary, I had the honour as you can see of sitting beside Preston Manning,

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Susan Natsche and David Ross who served as the panel for a citizens hearing.

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My specific job was to take notes, which I frantically did while listening to the in-person

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and online testimonies.

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My fingers have never hurt so much, but it was well worth it.

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And just as an aside, for those who followed the Corbett Report, you may have seen James

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Corbett's recent interview with NCI spokesperson Michel LeDuc-Catlin.

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Oh I don't even know how to pronounce that.

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Now the thumbnail for the video, part of Corbett's Solutions Watch series, features the NCI in

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the top two quadrants and interestingly a citizens hearing in the bottom two.

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I was proud and ecstatic to find that I am in that thumbnail as it felt like a surefire

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sign that my contributions to this cause have been valuable and valued.

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And as a Corbett Report community member myself, it was very exciting to be acknowledged even

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in this very passive way.

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So thank you James.

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And I know why he did that, it's because these pictures are featured on the National

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Citizens Inquiry website as part of the story of how the NCI came to be.

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Now this event, the National Citizens, or rather the citizens hearing was the first

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opportunity that I had to meet in real life people who would become good friends over

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the internet since mid-2021 and just as notably to place myself right in front of people who

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have suffered the physical consequences of the all too common adverse events from the

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various COVID-19 vaccine products that they were coerced into taking.

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Some might say forced.

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It was no longer just a matter of numbers as reported by my friends at Open VAERS and

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Welcome the Eagle 88 reporting on the new VAERS drops every Friday.

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It was a matter of eye contact with people who may never return to their former selves.

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Of course the inverse is also true.

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Through their suffering it was clear to me that these everyday people had become extraordinary

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by refusing to go gently into that good night.

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Truthfully I imagined that they were always extraordinary and it was through this tragic

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and avoidable suffering that they have demonstrated to themselves how powerful they really are.

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These are victims in one sense but so too are they the heroes in this story.

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So what then?

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So as a citizens hearing completed and a next steps task force went about planning what

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would become the National Citizens Inquiry it became clear that no one opportunity to

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share stories would successfully cement them into history at least not everybody.

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And as we know as newly minted celebrities like Steve Kirsch, Jessica Rose, Robert Malone

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and long established names like Jordan Peterson and James Corbett as they all stepped into

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the spotlight for their NCI testimonies.

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Many others would inevitably not be selected to testify for a second time.

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Now that's primarily a matter of logistics.

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There are truly only so many hours in the week and a limited wealth with which to rent

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conference rooms and hire audio visual teams.

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In some cases I imagine someone's story may not be deemed sensational enough in order

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to advance the larger agenda of shocking our friends, family members and neighbors to attention

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which we certainly need to do.

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These are reasonable choices that have to be made and the result is that some of those

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names will be lost to time as the rest of the world moves on.

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Even if it is that they're moving on to the next such opportunity to hear stories.

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I can't stop that none of us can stop that and that's that's the nature of history.

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The grains of sand.

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The grains of sand in time.

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That one way I thought I might be able to help minimize this effect and just simply

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to capture and document the history is by translating the testimonies presented at a

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citizen's hearing into a format a written format which could be more easily handed to

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friends and family and elected officials who otherwise might decline to visit a website.

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For example they're tired of getting your emails.

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Furthermore as I learned from Sonia Anderson who organized the citizens hearing and my

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colleague Lisa of the Canadian COVID Care Alliance a book of course can be submitted

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to Library and Archives Canada or the Library of Congress if you're in the United States

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to be included in the nation's official record.

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And so that's what I did.

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The official report from a citizens hearing is now available for all and I want to be

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very clear I'm not here to sell you anything.

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It's available for all in digital form for free and yes it is as well available in paperback

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hardcover and ebook through Amazon.

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Now I know that many people take issue with Amazon as do I.

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And by the way here's here is my copy of the hardcover that I purchased.

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The paperbacks are slightly better formatted but the reason we went with Amazon in this

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instance is that it was likely the only way we could have physical copies printed without

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asking for a significant down payment for printing costs from the Canadian COVID Care

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Alliance who had already dispensed tens of thousands of dollars in donations to set up

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the event in the first place.

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What Amazon does is it allows us to offer the book through a print on demand through

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print on demand which is a service which does not yet as far as I can tell seem to have

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a more independent alternative.

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There was talk of reaching out to Children's Health Defence and their CHD books to ask

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if they would publish the book for us and perhaps it's not too late to explore that

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option if they'll have us.

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But for now we have accomplished at least part of our mission and Jen Slavin notes that

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she has a copy as well and yes I remember well when she bought it I was very excited

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she was among the first.

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So thank you again and to be clear all of the proceeds the profit that comes in from

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the books go to the Canadian COVID Care Alliance to continue to use them for non-profit purposes

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to continue advocating and producing materials all the stuff you would want an organization

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like the CCCA to be doing.

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So we've accomplished at least part of our mission.

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Susan Natsche who I wrote the executive summary of the book with in fact she wrote most of

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it I simply formatted that part and as well as David Ross the executive director of the

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CCCA they suggested that I present the report as evidence for the NCI's on record and that

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is what I did.

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My entire testimony from Thursday May 4th has been clipped and uploaded clipped by my

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friend Gabriel at Libre Solutions Network big thank you and I took that and I've uploaded

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that so far to my YouTube channel and I'm going to upload that to rumble and to all

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the other rounding the earth channels as well and I thought about playing it here but you

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know what we're going to have the opportunity to do that at a later date because there is

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more there is more to look at today because as time remains a restriction on us all I

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wasn't able to do what I really wanted to do which is to read the names of the brave

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Canadians who provided testimony at a citizens hearing.

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I tried we ran out of time so when you watch the video you're not going to see that but

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I'm very proud to do that now so I'm going to turn to the end of my copy here.

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So the Canadian COVID Care Alliance extends its deepest gratitude to all those who provided

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testimony during a citizens hearing Chief Hugh Okogi, Dean Allison, Bo Bedard, Kayla

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Bishop, Miriam Bohemier, Louis Brown, Sean Buckley, Colin Carey, Dr. Frances Christian,

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April Crocker, Max Daigle, Arlene Dotto, Gail Davidson, Annabel Edge, Karen Epstein-Gilboa,

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Ryan Gassner, Jen Gilbert and Jessie, Richard Gergis, Leighton Gray, Maria Gucci, Lindy

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Hall, Dan Hartman, Greg Hill, Dr. York Shung, Brooke Jackson, Kayla Jones, James Kitchen,

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Karen Cobel, Brian Cranky, Janina Cranky, Henry Lu, Officer Andrew McGillivray, Scarlett

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Martin, Deanna McLeod, Dr. Chris Milburn, Nicole Minnican, Tanya Minnican, Sergio Molina,

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Kelly Sue Oberle, Dr. Eric Payne, Dr. Steven Pellick, Beverly Pearley, Dr. Patrick Phillips,

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Gordon Polivoy, Dr. Julie Panessi, Sam Presvelos, Maralina Repo, Padre Harold Risto, Alan Rubin,

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Dr. Richard Chabas, Chris Schaeffer, David Shaw, Josh Schulman, Leslie Smith, Irvin Studen,

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Susan Vander Rassel, Audrey Vanderhook, Steve Van Leeuwen, Haley Weinrout, Jayden Weinrout,

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Maydeen Wilson, and Dr. Chong Wang.

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Let their names not be forgotten.

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And many of them are continuing to fight and that's the best part.

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Many did, many did get the opportunity to speak again at the NCI, particularly the professionals.

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And it goes without saying, the most effort will need to go into the non-professionals

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in terms of keeping their names in everyone's heads.

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So let's hope, let's hope that this has done some of that.

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But you know, well, and last but not least, I just want to add that all of their individual

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testimonies can be found at citizenshearing.ca and they will be up there for as long as the

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internet exists as far as I'm concerned.

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So if you are curious, you can go and if you can sacrifice the time, you won't regret it,

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though it may not be easy.

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But there's some practical action and practical knowledge that we can take from this process

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because something rather interesting has happened, has come to light, you might say.

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But I'm going to direct our attention to the testimony of Dr. Patrick Phillips of Ontario,

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Canada.

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As summarized in his presentation at a citizens hearing in June 2022 and as reiterated again

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during his national citizens inquiry testimony, Dr. Phillips has had his medical license suspended

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on the truly egregious grounds of doing his job.

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Leaving aside what are equally important discussions around his ability as a physician to treat

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patients with Health Canada approved, highly safe and by most accounts, highly effective

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medications and his right to advocate on behalf of his patients right to choose to not wear

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a face covering.

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I want to focus on the fact that Dr. Phillips has been sanctioned for reporting adverse

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events experienced by his patients following receipt of a COVID-19 vaccine.

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Now I'm just going to quote again from a citizens hearing book for a moment.

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Phillips testified that there are major issues with Canada's current vaccine reporting system.

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He has observed many adverse events coming through his emergency department, including

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patient profiles that include facial numbness that lasted for eight days, left arm weakness,

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not able to work and frequently dropping things, abdominal pain and vomiting, heart palpitations,

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large rash over entire arm and growing arm, numbness and weakness with fatigue could not

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work, stroke and other causes were ruled out, progression in dementia, no longer talking

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had to be hospitalized, severe fever and arm weakness hospitalized two days later, severe

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vertigo and tinnitus impairing ability to drive.

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Dr. Phillips reported all of these cases to public health, which he must do under the

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law.

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After the first five submissions, Ontario's public health officer sent him a letter.

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The letter dated April 27, 2021 read, for your information, all five of the cases do

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not meet reported criteria for adverse events following immunization.

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Phillips was surprised that all five were rejected.

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The PHO then gave him access to a document that went over the criteria for reporting

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AEFIs.

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The single page document listed anesthesia and peristhesia, both of which have to occur

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within 15 days of the injection or is disqualified.

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If a patient faints and has an injury, it only counts within 30 minutes of taking the

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shot.

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This is very limited and is in stark contrast to Health Canada regulations.

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They have much broader definitions of adverse events that doctors are obliged to report

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in order to be able to maintain safety in pharmaceutical products.

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Now this is something that is not exclusive to Canada.

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I'm sure in the United States and across the world, you've had your own process of learning

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what the requirements are on behalf of doctors.

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Who holds the liability if they don't report something?

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That qualifies as mandatory reporting.

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It may be different in jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but largely there are responsibilities.

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At a minimum, there are strong recommendations generally that any adverse events to a pharmaceutical

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product of any kind should be reported, even if they're not proven to be caused by the

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thing.

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Now Phillips reiterated in a tweet from December 20, 2022 that his medical license was suspended

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in part for reporting adverse reactions to the COVID vaccines.

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But don't feel obligated to take his word for it.

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As reported by CBC News on May 3, 2022, in a statement to CBC News, a spokesperson for

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the college said that its Investigations, Complaints and Reports Committee, ICRC, ordered

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Phillips be handed an interim suspension order.

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The committee said Phillips was allegedly, quote, incompetent in relation to his patient

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care and reporting adverse events following immunization.

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That's nuts.

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Now Dr. Phillips is far from the only doctor who faced retribution for reporting suspected

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COVID-19 vaccine injuries.

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There are also doctors who presumably have successfully reported adverse events following

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immunization given the fact that official sources happily admit that some people have

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indeed been injured.

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Here is a snapshot from the Government of Canada claiming that as of March 3, 2023,

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there were 54,569 adverse events reported, with 10,685 described as serious.

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Now we'd have to look at the criteria for what qualifies as serious.

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But that's a lot of people.

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And as is well known by now and is plain to see, this number represents only a fraction

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of the true number of adverse events suffered by COVID-19 vaccine recipients, including

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the most serious injuries.

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Dead people can't report for themselves, of course.

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Now while the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System in the United States, known widely

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as VAERS, while VAERS allows anybody to file a report, assuming they can navigate the clunky

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and challenging system, Canadians have not been granted such an opportunity throughout

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the COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

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This is absurd on its face.

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Why would that not be available to people?

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And it's even more shocking than this, it turns out.

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There are a few things that have just come to light that should truly shock anybody with

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any ounce of conscience and intellect.

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Now I'm going to pull this screen down and I'm going to share another screen.

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If you hold tight real quick, we're going to jump over here.

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So as it turns out, all the way up until the COVID-19 era, Canadian consumers could in

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fact file their own adverse events directly with the Government of Canada.

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This is a snapshot.

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The snapshot itself is from September 20th, 2020.

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And as you see here, the title of the page, Report a Side Effect to a Vaccine, Consumers.

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I'll read from the page.

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Everyone, everyone who witnesses or experiences a side effect adverse reaction following immunization

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is strongly encouraged to report it.

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You may ask your healthcare provider, doctor, healthcare provider, pharmacist to help you.

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And immediately under this of course is a button, a handy button here that says Report

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a Side Effect.

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So there's an online process.

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So indeed you have two options.

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You can either file online or you can print it out, fill it out by hand and then mail

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it at no cost to a so-called Vigilance Regional Office.

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00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,440
And then they talk about what a vaccine is, they have a number of links.

453
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,640
So this is what it used to look like.

454
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,880
But then the COVID-19 vaccine rollout started.

455
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,400
We're going to see what it looked like next.

456
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,160
You see the page has changed.

457
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Let's look at that again.

458
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Here's what it looked like before the COVID vaccine rollout.

459
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Here's what it changed to.

460
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,940
The title remains the same, but on this page is now a little different.

461
00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:44,400
What are vaccines?

462
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,560
With a slight weird typo, tracking adverse events following immunization.

463
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,680
Everyone who witnesses or experiences a side effect to a vaccine is strongly encouraged

464
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,920
to report it.

465
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,760
Ask your healthcare provider, for example, doctor, nurse or pharmacist to complete an

466
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,600
adverse events following immunization form.

467
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,880
Submit it on your behalf to your local public health unit.

468
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,320
Interesting.

469
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,020
So what was you may ask for help.

470
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:22,280
Now it's you must send it through a healthcare provider.

471
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:30,040
No longer is the button to submit an adverse event using the handy dandy online form present.

472
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,080
Interesting.

473
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,120
Well what are vaccines?

474
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,780
Some given orally, nasally, most by injection.

475
00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:41,460
And then they go on and they've added a bit about tracking adverse events.

476
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:45,700
Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada share the monitoring of the safety

477
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:48,280
of vaccines in Canada.

478
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,440
So yes, good stuff there.

479
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,800
But there's more here.

480
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,720
Pretty interesting.

481
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:03,320
Manufacturers of all drugs, including vaccines, must report serious adverse reactions in Canada,

482
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,320
unexpected serious adverse reactions in other countries.

483
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Interesting.

484
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Or unusual failures in efficacy for new drugs in Canada.

485
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,200
Well I suppose we did hear about them, didn't we?

486
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,440
But I can't imagine we heard about them at the earliest possible opportunity.

487
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Well we don't have to speculate on that.

488
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,520
But notice there's also this very interesting graph that was added.

489
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Let's see if we can get a closer look.

490
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,520
So this is the flow of the chain of custody you might say of an adverse event following

491
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,720
immunization or AFI report.

492
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:43,880
Vaccine recipient talks to their healthcare provider who then submits an initial report

493
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,560
to their local public health unit.

494
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,000
By the way that has to be done by mail now.

495
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,400
You can't submit it online at this point in time anymore, even if you're a healthcare

496
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,240
worker.

497
00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:01,980
And then the local public health unit may choose, assuming the healthcare provider agrees

498
00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:08,120
with the patient, they may choose to submit from the local public health unit to the federal,

499
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:14,320
provincial or territorial immunization authorities, who then themselves will evaluate and decide

500
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:20,860
whether or not to send it on to the Public Health Agency of Canada, who then would be

501
00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:25,600
one of the two final bodies to receive it, because they of course would then share that

502
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,200
with Health Canada.

503
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,800
Now for those who don't know, here's the way this works.

504
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,500
The Public Health Agency of Canada, well let's do it this way.

505
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:40,240
Health Canada is responsible for the approval, the authorization of products in Canada.

506
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:45,160
And then once that occurs, then the Public Health Agency of Canada develops guidelines

507
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,560
for the use of the approved drugs.

508
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,520
And that's what happened for the COVID-19 vaccines as well, kind of.

509
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,320
And then you see of course market authorization holders, they have to report to Health Canada

510
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,880
anything that goes wrong.

511
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,860
Alright, fantastic.

512
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:04,640
When was this, when was this changed?

513
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:14,440
Well let's look, the snapshot is from December 27th, 2020, okay.

514
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:21,040
It was changed on December 1st, 2020.

515
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,840
Immediately before the first shots were administered in Canada.

516
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:34,920
Now what happened is a colleague of mine, with whom I work on a task force focused on

517
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:42,160
issues like this, had submitted a Freedom of Information request seeking information

518
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,800
about why this change occurred.

519
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Why is it that before the COVID-19 vaccine, you could as a consumer, as one might expect

520
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:59,540
you'd be able to, you could submit a report if you were injured by a pharmaceutical product.

521
00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:03,520
It's clear that some people are insisting you kind of have to, or are strongly recommended

522
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,520
to.

523
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:11,200
So why, why Health Canada, why Public Health Agency of Canada did you change this?

524
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:17,640
There's a, I believe it's a 60-day deadline in Canada to provide responses to Freedom

525
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,760
of Information requests.

526
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,900
They bypass that multiple times.

527
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:32,440
So on February, in late February 2023, my colleague said, you know what, I have a different

528
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,760
route that I can take.

529
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,600
There's multiple ways to access public information in Canada.

530
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:45,280
One of them is through your member of parliament, is a good way to summarize it.

531
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,520
So she indicated that she was going to do that instead.

532
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:54,600
So you know what, you can, you guys aren't going to give this to me.

533
00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:00,160
So as my colleague is discussing with their member of parliament, she pulls up this page

534
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:07,880
again, but notices it has changed yet again.

535
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:19,280
Let's take a look at how this page looks today.

536
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,060
Everyone who witnesses or experiences a side effect to a vaccine is strongly encouraged

537
00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:25,400
to report it.

538
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,000
Ask your healthcare provider, for example, Dr. Nurse or Pharmacist 2, complete an adverse

539
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,280
events following immunization form.

540
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,800
As you can see, it's a PDF, which would then be printed out and sent in and submitted on

541
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,040
your behalf to local public health unit.

542
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,760
Reports submitted by healthcare providers often contain additional information that

543
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,720
is useful for Health Canada's safety assessment.

544
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:53,080
If you are unable to report adverse reactions through a healthcare provider, or if you prefer

545
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:59,320
to report directly to Health Canada, well, look at that, ladies and gentlemen, the button

546
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,480
is back.

547
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,040
You can now report a side effect to Health Canada again.

548
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:15,540
Only online or using the mail, and it does not have to go through the healthcare provider.

549
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:18,560
What else has changed?

550
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,960
Well, there's this diagram again.

551
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,720
Now let's see, what did that diagram used to look like?

552
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:27,720
Okay, there's that.

553
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,760
Now let's jump back over here and it's clearly different.

554
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,800
So let's zoom in and see the specifics.

555
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,280
You have the vaccine recipient.

556
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,640
You also have the vaccine recipient here.

557
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,680
So it looks as though you can submit multiple ways.

558
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,400
In fact, three different ways you can submit to your healthcare provider.

559
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,620
And wouldn't you know it, there's a little message right under here.

560
00:45:50,620 --> 00:46:07,000
It reads, in many provinces and territories, healthcare providers must report by law.

561
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Exactly as Dr. Patrick Phillips did and was sanctioned for.

562
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,080
And yes, they then submit through the yada yada.

563
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,880
So that's if you want to go that route, but you can of course also submit to Health Canada

564
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,320
directly if you are the vaccine recipient.

565
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,360
And as previously described, you can also submit directly to Pfizer or directly to Moderna,

566
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
whoever it is, whose ever product you've taken.

567
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,880
Now here's the question, ladies and gentlemen.

568
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,280
When was this changed?

569
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:52,120
It was changed on February 28th, 2023.

570
00:46:52,120 --> 00:47:02,220
The same day my colleague last emailed the Freedom of Information people responsible

571
00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:08,280
for getting her the answer as to why this had changed in the first place.

572
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,560
This was the last day, the day on which they were informed that she would be pursuing the

573
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:19,960
same information, perhaps embarrassing information through another source where she would likely

574
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,180
have much better luck.

575
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:26,580
How can this be explained?

576
00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:37,280
How can it be that for the entirety of the COVID era as far as vaccines being available,

577
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:44,240
the entire COVID-19 vaccine rollout, which one might say is essentially over, how can

578
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:51,160
it be without any other explanation that it was made tremendously difficult for people

579
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,340
to report COVID-19 vaccine injuries?

580
00:47:55,340 --> 00:48:02,680
How is it that this was the most robust safety monitoring that any agency has ever undertook,

581
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:08,760
which I believe is how the FDA has framed it, or the CDC perhaps?

582
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:17,440
How can it be that doctors are legally required to report and yet when they do, they are sanctioned,

583
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:27,880
labeled, tarred and feathered, defamed?

584
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:40,080
How can it be that the people who walked out, or perhaps that's not even the correct word

585
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:47,580
for some, how could they be left?

586
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:55,240
How could a choice have been made to make it as hard as possible to put as many barriers

587
00:48:55,240 --> 00:49:04,000
as possible in place between them and simply an acknowledgement, simply an opportunity

588
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:11,040
to talk to someone, to tell someone on the record, I believe I've had an injury to this

589
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,920
pharmaceutical product.

590
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:24,380
And then when they go through their healthcare provider, they're told it takes too long.

591
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:26,380
It costs too much money.

592
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:29,960
I can't, I've been told not to file adverse event reports.

593
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,360
I have a colleague who was just sanctioned for doing so.

594
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,960
There are no adverse events to these shots.

595
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Pick your poison.

596
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,680
I don't know about you, but this is weird to me.

597
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:57,080
And I called it a smoking gun.

598
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,840
I suppose we'll see.

599
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:08,960
And as a summary, what this looks like to me is the government of Canada planned from

600
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:19,200
the get-go to cover their ears and go la la la la la for the entirety of the COVID-19

601
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,640
vaccine rollout.

602
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:29,200
And I guess now they decided that they were under too much scrutiny or something, something

603
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,480
has changed.

604
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,560
I won't even speculate as to what it could be.

605
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,840
I suppose something changed and now you can report again.

606
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:48,360
So I guess what I'm going to end with is all of that considered.

607
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,600
I'm not sure how to feel about this.

608
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:57,760
The World Health Organization downgrades COVID pandemic says it's no longer a global emergency.

609
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:08,560
I don't exactly celebrate this.

610
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,120
I don't feel like this is good news.

611
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,240
I don't think they're wrong.

612
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:23,760
I don't think COVID-19 has been a public health emergency, possibly ever.

613
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:33,320
But it certainly has not been a public health emergency since March 2020.

614
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
I'll give you two weeks.

615
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,040
In retrospect, I'll give you two weeks.

616
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,520
It was a mistake.

617
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:48,400
People, there were people who knew it would be a mistake, but most people could be excused.

618
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Not the second time.

619
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,420
Not the third, fourth, fifth time.

620
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:58,520
The emergency is not over.

621
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:06,240
I think it's very clear to most people we have not ended an era of suffering directly

622
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:22,000
related to actions taken in response to the declaration of a pandemic for COVID.

623
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,620
I wish I could offer more in terms of celebration that the World Health Organization has given

624
00:52:26,620 --> 00:52:29,300
their stamp of approval to that wrapping up.

625
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:31,640
People can travel in Canada again.

626
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:37,480
People can very shortly go to the States if they're considered an unvaccinated person.

627
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,640
The public health emergency and the national emergency and all that are going away.

628
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:49,720
Well, some of them are just being suspended.

629
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:56,240
I wish I felt like it was appropriate to take a victory lap, but I don't.

630
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:06,680
And I suppose I'll end it like this.

631
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:14,800
I have never seen so many people ready to listen to others.

632
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,640
I've never seen so many people ready to learn new things.

633
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:26,280
My partner Sam was able to tell her family that I participated in the National Citizens

634
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,760
Inquiry and they genuinely appeared interested.

635
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,720
Perhaps they always would have been, but I know I would have been too scared to tell

636
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:37,280
them six months ago.

637
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:47,280
So let me know in your life, where can we find the positivity?

638
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Where can we find the light?

639
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,040
Because if this isn't over, then that means there's a lot of people who need a lot of

640
00:53:53,040 --> 00:54:02,600
other people to be good and positive and simply ready to keep listening and talking.

641
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,640
And you guys, everybody who's been tuning in since the start of the Rounding the Earth

642
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:16,920
podcast, which is coming up on a year ago, you have helped make this place a place where

643
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:23,360
we can hear and share and talk and listen and debate and disagree.

644
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:30,120
And I've heard from people who they've noticed that and it has made an impact in at least

645
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,880
some people's lives.

646
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,920
And it couldn't happen without all of you, because otherwise it would just be me or me

647
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,800
and Matthew or just Matthew talking into blank internet.

648
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:49,800
So we did this together and whatever it is we do now in our lives in this particular

649
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,180
cause, we continue to do it together.

650
00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:56,560
So thank you.

651
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:02,600
This has been an interesting one.

652
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,360
But thank you all for watching this episode of Rounding the Earth.

653
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:11,920
I'm going to get my little presentation back up here real quick to give us our fun little

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00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,480
outro to say on the subject of community.

655
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,720
If you want to join a very specific community, the rounding newyork.locals.com community

656
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,140
is one of the best.

657
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:27,800
You can go there, keep up to date with everything we're doing, conversations just like this

658
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:33,640
one and occasionally disagreements.

659
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:41,260
And you can also use it as a place to support the show financially, which I can't under

660
00:55:41,260 --> 00:55:46,240
express how thankful I am for those of you who choose to do so.

661
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:53,120
And there are a lot of you and it does allow me to spend time, very valuable time doing

662
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,240
very valuable things.

663
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:57,920
And I appreciate that very much.

664
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:05,920
And it's any opportunity to come together with people ready to learn and argue is a

665
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,920
good place to be.

666
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,360
And roundingtheearth.locals.com is one such place.

667
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:16,240
And it all started of course with roundingtheearth.substack.com where Matthew continues to write provocative,

668
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:19,920
well thought out, well researched and tremendously interesting pieces.

669
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,320
And I highly recommend you subscribe there if you haven't already.

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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,320
Last but not least, I have been Liam Sturgis.

671
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:31,880
I'm a musician and you can find me at liamsturgis.com and one day I'd like to go back to being on

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00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,280
stage.

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00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,140
That's one of the things I'm fighting for.

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00:56:35,140 --> 00:56:37,440
So thank you for helping fight for that with me.

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00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,240
I hope you all have an absolutely fantastic rest of your afternoon or evening or wherever

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it is you are in the world or whatever time it is.

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:57:10,920
Just know you are never alone.

