The only Funkos I have are Brock and Sindri.
Who got you then? You'd have none if it wasn't for me.
You did dear, you did. But you're also the reason why they're the only ones I have.
Well I'm so sorry you couldn't hear the fucking troll.
Hello and welcome to What's the Buttons? This is episode 47.
What was it? Some fire troll? That pivotal fucking...
Episode 47 of What's the Buttons podcast. And as you can hear I've got Steph with me.
What? You need to calm your tits.
You're just shouting. I'm not, that's just how you're talking to the microphone.
It's so loud in my ears. Do you want me to turn you down?
Anyway, well I'm so sorry you don't have fire troll. I don't even know what that is.
And the draugr. Oh yeah, those two characters that don't even have names.
They're just, their names are what they are.
That's not a name, that's like you calling you human.
Yeah. If you were, if you're... So what's a duck?
Right, but I've... The point is it's not a pivotal character is it?
Goat. Horse. No, I'm not saying about that.
Oh, you need to turn this off and we're gonna throw hands.
What do you mean?
I'm not talking about animals in general, am I?
What I'm talking about is a difference in seeing a stranger's dog and you go, oh it's a dog isn't it?
But our dog, you don't go, this is dog, this is Roo, she has a name.
I need to turn myself up and over because I can barely hear you.
Oh. Yeah.
The point remains, they were hardly pivotal characters were they?
They're just detritus, they'll be taking up shelves, it's like having...
Are you about to call some of my Funkos detritus?
Yeah, I am, yeah.
Like what? What on here is detritus?
Dunharrow King times three. He's in it for like 20 minutes.
And I'm pretty sure some of those minutes are probably in the extended edition only.
Yeah, I think some of them are to be fair.
So he's hardly pivotal is he? I mean he's why he bought him three times.
No. It's great.
Look, if you come live onto the biggest gaming platform there is to just slate me off, then we've got another thing coming.
What are you going to do about it?
Absolutely nothing.
There you go then.
So how is Tears of the Kingdom?
Lovely.
Everyone's waited with baited breath for Steph's point of view of Tears of the Kingdom.
Because obviously we spoke to Ash about it and he was like, yeah it's fucking great.
Going with the year.
Yeah, but it wasn't out. It only just came out last week.
Yeah, but he rinses it.
Yeah, but he hadn't played it last time. He hadn't played it.
Oh shit, no that's a conversation he just had with me off air. Yeah, yeah, no.
That's what he said ladies and gentlemen.
Hot off the press. Yeah, I mean, I won't lie.
What? What?
I wish I could be a bigger person.
But the fact that I can't have mini egg is really overshadowed.
Serious?
I swear to God my eyes are watering.
Yeah.
I love it. Don't get me wrong, I love it. But essentially will it be patched? I doubt it.
I don't actually think it's a problem.
Are you about to cry or is that hay fever?
If you listen to the last episode, me and Ash were talking about Tears of the Kingdom.
And he said that you were able to port a lot of the stuff that you had from Breath of the Wild over to Tears of the Kingdom.
And your ponies is one of the things that you could port over.
And we had a quick Google while we were recording.
And Ash confirmed that yes, you could drag, well for Steph, mini egg from her Breath of the Wild save over to the Tears of the Kingdom.
And in essence, it hasn't worked.
Yeah. So a lot of people are having trouble with if they played in master mode.
That's one thing.
But what I think my problem is, is what was happening at the same time as Reese and Ash finding out this information.
And Reese telling me was I had started Tears of the Kingdom on my new switch, which had absolutely no data on it.
Like physical, obviously cloud.
But as far as that switch was concerned, had absolutely nothing.
The only game it played was Yoshi. Yoshi's Nitted Adventure or whatever it's called.
And I had begun that game and you only get, excuse me, you only get one save per switch on Tears of the Kingdom.
On fucking everything it sounds.
Wait, tell a lie. No, I don't think you can have a new game.
Because normally you can have like three saves, like when you say DS or whatever.
You can have more than one game.
Maybe I can. I might do that actually, just out of interest.
I'm going to sneeze. It's going to really ruin the flow.
I bless you. I always sneeze twice.
You're going to try. That's just donned on me.
So you're going to try and start a new game and see if it works.
This is my theory, right? Is this.
How many hours have you put into this one so far?
Probably about 12.
I know. Well, that 12 hours can be spent so differently. It's a bit like Hogwarts legacy.
Yeah, you can end up doing completely different shit.
The theory is this, essentially.
I had begun playing for probably at that point maybe an hour or so.
But you don't actually get to a stable until you've done.
Well, no spoilers, but there's a.
Spoilers, spoilers.
No, what I want to say is there's a large portion of the game before you're free.
There's essentially a tutorial phase.
Where you're not. For your plunged into the open world.
Yeah, like in the beginning when you fall off the top, you begin on the Sky Islands.
And if you fall off the top, you die. Whereas obviously for the rest of the game, that's not true.
You just fall down. But it's imperative that you stay until you've finished what they ask of you.
Indeed. And I was at that point.
So and obviously I'm taking my time and I'm enjoying it.
So, yeah, by the time I actually got to a stable and.
Asked him. He was like, oh, yeah, I'll register you as a new person.
You like what? And essentially, because when Reese said it to me, I then immediately came out.
Downloaded my Breath of the Wild data onto that switch.
But I think that there's probably if I can think like a person who develops games,
there's probably an initiation into that save where it checks for previous game data.
Yeah, I'd imagine when you start that there was nothing there.
So the rest of that game is run. There's no bread.
You're asking the switch to pull data from Breath of the Wild that isn't on that switch.
Yeah, because in my head, it was like the I couldn't really understand the whole point of of the cloud aspect of it.
But I suppose if the game itself isn't pulling,
but if your switch is pulling save data from the game itself as opposed to the cloud,
then it makes sense because normally it would be like, oh, if it's in the cloud, it's permanently in the cloud.
So it would constantly be pulling bits from the cloud.
But I suppose it's just it's just another way to store and back things up, I guess.
And it's so I find the switch.
I find the switch cloud a little bit random because things like Animal Crossing stored in a different place.
Dreamlike Valley stored in a different place.
But you so. Very odd.
You know, I mean, it's an odd random things are stored in random places, some games store it by themselves.
I think Ash said to me the other day that or was it when we was on the phone to him?
Yeah, they said that Nintendo come out and said that this is how they're going to do it from now on with all the with all these elders.
Dogs fucking staring at a fly over.
It's gone now, Dick.
So it will be this cloud based thing.
So I'd imagine if there's another iteration of of the Legend of Zelda.
It's not cloud based.
No, no, I'm saying I'm saying there's another iteration of the Legend of Zelda that they your stuff from Tears of the Kingdom.
You'll be able to they'll be able to pull from that like they have with Breath of the Wild for Tears of the Kingdom.
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I feel like I might try to go in like I don't I don't feel this part of now.
Well, this is the thing, I'm sure I'm not entirely alone.
The connection, the connection I feel I want my fucking horse so bad that I would sooner start again.
The cat, the carrots been I honestly I honestly think I would feel happier if I had it because this is the thing.
So is it even a good horse?
No, it's not really stats aren't amazing.
But that's you know, can't you make another?
No, I'm no right.
So I've been searching for you about to burst out crying.
You have no idea how much this horse means to me.
And like every every horse I catch, it's just not the same.
And I've tried calling them.
I called one of them toasty after the dog.
I called another one Gisela after the Gisela.
Then there was one of them.
I was trying to make a word out of denial, like a nice name of the word denial.
It was just too sad.
And I can't remember what I called the last one.
But I just keep catching these horses.
It's costing me rupees.
You know, I mean, because I just try to find the one and I cannot find the right hair because obviously many had plaits, which I put in.
And apparently it does transfer with their hairstyles as well.
And yeah, many beautiful plaits.
And I just don't know.
But the horse's side, let's get to what the people want.
The actual gameplay is incredible.
And there's been some people saying like, oh, it's just a big DLC.
Well, if you think it's DLC, then play the actual like Breath of the Wild DLC.
I can't. People that do that.
It's a fucking it's it's a second version of the game.
It's like when people go, Last of Us Part 2 is just the same as the last of us.
What was you? What was you fucking expecting?
What was you expecting?
They're the same kind of cunts that bang on FIFA.
Fuck off, man.
It would be like imagine like between Avengers Infinity War and Endgame.
And they're just two completely different stories.
But you go, but what's what?
What do you expect people are the same thing with God of War going out?
The gameplay feels pretty much the same.
You know, well, of course, it's going to feel very fucking similar.
It's the same game, you dicks.
Well, and you know what?
So far, the so satisfied and actually having it solved made me realize how annoying it actually was.
Is that if you're so the Koroks, God bless them being so nasty, we're getting to them.
So when actually they're really handy, because that's what you use to expand your inventory.
But essentially, if your inventory is full for a shield, a bow, a weapon, whatever.
In Breath of the Wild, you could open a chest and it would show you this sick weapon.
Then it would go, your infantry is full.
Like on. And the chest would close and then you've got to stand there, cycle through, bin a weapon.
Like Hogwarts Legacy.
Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
Bin a weapon, drop that shit on the floor, then go back in and open it.
And ultimately, grand scheme of things, not the end of the world is fine, but...
You're a burp, hang on.
I really hope that didn't catch you. That was disgusting.
In this now, you crack it open chest, it says it's full, then it brings up your inventory and you can just drop it.
And it will automatically pick up the new one.
And it will pick it straight up. That's nice.
And it's just that couple of seconds of my life that is beautiful.
Yeah, but that's good. That's a good quality of life thing because it doesn't sound that annoying.
But in practice, that is fucking annoying because it's like, especially if you forget that your inventory is full.
Or if you're in a rush or something like that, it's something so, so, so simple.
But a nice little feature.
Yeah. And I think, well, so Ash, obviously, we were chatting the other day, Ash on the phone.
And he was saying how just the ability to, you know, he spent like three hours in a well, didn't he?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it is so true.
Like, you have this goal, that's what I absolutely love about open world games, is you have this goal, you think, right, yeah, I'll go and do this next.
But then as you're going along and it is, you go, oh, that's interesting.
And it's the satisfaction that so far every single thing where I've gone, oh, that's interesting, has actually been something interesting I've gone and I've picked up.
And they've got like, it says something like side quests, but then there's like side activities or something like that.
So you're not like, it is just everything has some place.
Yeah, this is exactly what we was calling for when we've spoken about it.
I mean, Ash has spoken about it. Anyone else I've spoken to Tears of the Kingdom about.
It's the if you're going to have a massively open world and when they advertise that it's like twice the size of Breath of the Wild, you need to you need to fill that with exciting things, things that are going to capture you.
And I said before, I think the vehicle system is something that enables you to not completely fill up the landscape because you've now got vehicles, makes it a hell of a lot more fun to explore.
But you saying that means that they're obviously doing done the right thing here in making every little bit that you come across as exciting as the other bit rather than it being very bland.
And that on that note.
So again, so far, because I feel like I've barely scratched the surface, which is great because I love having that feeling where it's all ahead of you.
Yeah, you got all this shit to explore is that there's this sweet spot of I mean, you can call it a stale dress, but it's six years. But there's like a nostalgia for all the places that I love in Breath of the Wild.
And they've kept like enough of it the same, but also changed it so that it feels new.
I recognize these places at the same time.
There's just new elements, new hills and people and stuff like that. Like one of the two main villages.
Well, both of them actually I've been to both because they're both like, I just love them.
I can't believe it like so and they've added because it's, it's not just change for the sake of changing like there's a whole story there as well like essentially as the game begins.
There's this ancient crusty guy that's like awoken and then things get lifted up, things get dropped from the sky and all stuff like this.
And there's all these ancient ruins and just like crazy new stuff.
And yeah, like it's, oh my God, it is very, very cool.
And it more, I don't think there was any part of me that was like worried that it was going to be the same as Breath of the Wild in the sense that literally the same because in my head I was thinking, how can they change it so much?
Because you're in the same place and you know what I mean?
But they, they kind of have and haven't. It's really mad.
There's like you recognise it as something, but then some are completely different.
And then there's also even simple stuff that some of the fans will obviously go crazy for is in Breath of the Wild.
You, they give you, you can buy a house in Hateno and that's your little base.
You can hang your little weapons up, leave your horse there.
I had my little travel medallion set there so I could always go home.
Great for dropping your Amiibo outside and stuff.
And in this time, we've no so far any explanation.
It's quite evident that Zelda's been living there.
So it's like, oh my God, like what's happened? All this stuff.
Like not in like a are they fucking sort of thing at all, but just in a...
Link's been dicking out Zelda.
There is a lore there and like, it's just really cool.
And like, I love that when I first got there, I was like, oh, I can't believe she's been living in my house.
But at the same time, I like that.
That there has been some progression and there's, you know, the whole different stories and stuff.
You don't always need a brand new location to make things, to change things up.
A lot of games just change the current area.
World of Warcraft's fucking rife with that kind of stuff.
There's an entire expansion built upon literally just like the Cataclysm expansion is what it says in the tin.
A Cataclysm happened and it just changed the entire.
So all these areas that you have known and played in for years, completely changed.
Yeah, someone actually see that.
Someone compared Cataclysm to Tears of the Ganglion.
Yeah, because it completely changed every single landscape.
And literally what you just said, there'd be parts of it that you very much recognized and then brand new parts that you remember what they used to be like.
And now there's this completely new thing.
I mean, it was one of the most hated expansions on the entire set, but it nevertheless, it changed the landscape and it still changed this day.
And it was a very, very smart way to implement that and this new expansion without going through all the aggro of making a brand new zone, which I'd imagine is a bit easier on a developer standpoint, because you've already got the building blocks.
So you just have to change it around a bit, dress up differently.
And you know what's crazy is I knew about the sky. Very, very obvious from the very, very first poster. But I didn't really know how extensive the depths would be.
And actually, like on your map, it is literally a three tiered map, which is great as well, because you can see where you are through all of those.
Yeah.
Which is nice. But just earlier on yesterday, I found so I went down into the depths because there was a quest to unlock your camera.
And I really I'll get to that in a minute. I won't lose my point. Remind me of the camera in a second.
Anyway, yes, there's a quest line down in the depths. And I went down there and naturally found the fellow and then that was done.
And I sort of just carried on because there's like these route things. And when you go to the route and you do your hand debris, it lights up a perimeter.
And then like that creates like a travel point. So I was like, oh, I'll get a couple of them. Now there's some meaty fellas down there that they're not.
They're lethal. And actually, the the gloom is what it was is reference this red stuff. Yeah.
The gloom, it when you when it gets you in the depths, I think anywhere, but especially in the depths, you can't then regenerate those hearts unless you have a specific elixir that allows those to regenerate.
So even if you like eight fucking eight stakes, it's not helping you, which is quite cool.
Anyway, so I did maybe like four or five. And I was like, fuck it, I'll go back up.
But anyway, so I found this message in a bottle and it was like a treasure map and holy shit. And it was in the depths.
Literally, I went down onto my maps and like over in this bottom corner is the bit where I've discovered this X was like all the way over there.
So massive. It is massive.
And, you know, as yet, completely unexplored, completely dark like this. Oh, it's crazy.
That's cool, though. It's just so exciting because like even when you know, there's like weird sadness when you kind of get an assassin's green when you when you like you've discovered all you can see all the map now and you're satisfied.
But there's nothing left to discover.
And yeah, I mean, I've still got a lot of the map to to get.
But at the same time, each time I go and it exposes like a huge chunk of the map.
So that's quite cool. The building. Oh, there's no camera. Camera. Yes.
So camera. I. It's just a cute little. I don't know how many people really like. Maybe there's some people that are really dedicated to it.
Obviously, you don't really have like achievements or whatever the words. What's the what's it called? Trophies. Trophies. That's it.
That's my Xbox at heart.
You don't really have that necessarily on on Nintendo.
But there's a compendium that you have that you can like fill out of all like the bugs and the fish and the plants and the animals and weapons, shields, everything.
And you fill it out by taking like cute little pictures of them.
And I had kind of forgotten about that because it has no real impact on the rest of the game. You discover it anyway.
Yeah. But it's just you have these little pictures.
And I said to myself the other week when I was sort of like just playing around on Breath of the Wild because, you know, had some things to do.
And I said to myself, like, I really want to fill it just because it's so cute because it's so like individual, isn't it?
Like to all my little pictures. So I've been doing that and I quite like I've got quite a lot of my mushrooms and stuff.
So you're going to throw this all away to get mini egg?
Yeah. Yeah, I think I am. I think I am. I don't know.
What a drama. If you open, if you do a new game and then it pulls up because you can't just start that new game and then have mini egg there.
You've got how many hours do you got to put in your record? Like two or three hours?
It would be quicker now. I wouldn't fuck around. I'd go straight there because I don't need to explore.
I could probably get there in an hour. In an hour. Yeah.
And then if if if you get there and the gaze is like, we've got your mini egg love.
Yeah, that'll be it. I think I don't know.
This is the thing, like to me, like I don't know. I don't know.
I just have a real like I think because ultimately my favorite franchise has been for many, many, many years.
Breath of the Wild came out at a time when I really needed that distraction. And I think, I don't know, I just put a lot of personal investment into my horse.
I get it. If World of Warcraft 2 became a thing and there was an ability to pull all of my characters over, especially the main one I'm playing at the moment, Cabri Cowl,
then I'm going to want to fucking pull that over because I put a lot of time and effort into that character.
I don't want to lose it. So I get you. And I think everyone listening fucking understands it as well.
My sister. I'll get Mark in the van ground. I don't know what she's fucking on about.
Fuck off, Mark. My sister, one of my birthdays, painted me a little canvas of mini egg and he sits on my desk.
No, but then I think at the same time that no sounded really funny. No, no, no.
If anyone has played the last boss of Breath of the Wild, and I mean the last, last boss, so you've done Calamity Ganon and now you're onto Dark Ganon
and you have the Bow of Light, which was a sick weapon only used for that purpose, which was nutty.
And my face, I so wish if I was like a streamer or something, that's got to be one of the big massive benefits of being a streamer, isn't it?
You have those constant clips. You catch your first reaction to something and when that fucking thing panned out and mini egg was stood there in the line of danger,
I could not believe it. The stakes were high. As high as they've ever been.
I was sitting at my desk with my back to Steph and all I heard was, no, what's mini egg doing here? And then mini egg got hit. The horse got hit.
I sent him away. I literally, you're supposed to ride around. You're supposed to ride around on your horse.
And then Zelda exposes these vulnerable points of light, a new fire, this bow that's like a hundred damage or whatever it is, into these pieces.
And it does like, it's actually one of the easiest bosses in the game. I think it's kind of supposed to be. It's supposed to be that line between skill and story.
Exactly. And yeah, going around, going around and then he like trod on us and I was like, no go. And I did the rest of it on foot.
But what would happen if mini egg died? You just get it back?
I don't know. I've never found out. If anything ever happens, I just immediately pause it, go and then reload my last save. Don't give a shit what progress I lose.
Jesus Christ. Well, the horse was absolutely fine though. It was just your voice. You were so much panic. No, what's mini egg doing here? No, no, he's hit mini egg.
Don't you make me sound like I'm about seven. He's hit mini egg.
It shows how creative I am because it was obviously around like Easter time. I clearly had like a pack of mini eggs.
They crack them out from January, don't they? Easter chocolate. And I was like, what can I call this horse?
Sang around mini eggs.
The horse that will become my favorite fucking mount ever. Yeah, no, silly.
But I want to touch on the building of Tears of the Kingdom because you know, I just say that the ingenuity of gamers in this world
and the creativity is just, it's incredible. Watching the videos of these corroxes getting absolutely battered by the contraptions that these people have built is crazy.
I saw a geezer flying around in a B2 stealth bomber that he had made. And he was full on like shooting stuff.
There was a whole compilation I had on TikTok of I think it was like war crimes committed in Tears of the Kingdom. And it's just these people that have built these like ridiculous things and just fucking stuff up with it.
But yeah, the corroxes watching them, seeing them being hung up on a cross.
They were like roasted on a spit. Yeah, it's so funny.
You know what, I almost did one of those by accident. I built, it was on like an island and I was on top of a mountain and I had one of the glider ones.
But like I don't really have that much stuff. I don't have any of the fiery ones. I've seen them and like used them in a shrine, but haven't got all the kit yet.
And it generates like randomly and stuff. So anyway, I put this little feather on the thing and attached it, but I didn't jump off in time. So he's now just going off into the fucking sea.
And I was like, oh shit. So I tried to go after him, ran out of stamina, drowned and then thought fine, because he's going to reset. No, it reset me and left him in the ocean.
Yeah, I swam out to him and then I did manage to get back in and it was fine. But yeah, I was like, no, the building is crazy. You really can do every the fuck you want here.
Like someone trying to break into like this tower place or this village, whatever it was. And it was had high walls and it was like, I just built a bridge.
Just built a bridge straight over it or people catching horses with like them giant sauce pans they're making. Yeah, I tried that. I couldn't do it.
I was like, that's great. I love this. And then just, yeah, the like I see some someone yesterday had built. It was like a it was like a square on stilts and it was all lasers.
And he just used it to kill like massive creatures. It was like home in on the and just constantly like shoot them. So you didn't actually have to do anything.
Really fucking really weird stuff that I'm seeing. But it's so good. The torture is just great.
What's your what's your drive? You would you would enjoy just watching these things get absolutely fucked up for no reason whatsoever.
And I find it great because there's absolutely no reason why these corks should be getting tortured.
These reasons are their dicks. No, they're lovely and they're so cute. But some of those puzzles are fucking like trying to find them.
You need like three more seeds and then you just find them. But no, I love them. I do love them. But I see why why they are. They can be quite annoying or like you'll go and it will just be in the most inconvenient place.
And you just know that that's a fucking do they do they die when you burn them or anything? They don't take any damage.
And you know what? I accidentally when one of the ones I was doing and I was transporting him and I was building like a built a boat.
But you have to like you can use an arrow, but essentially to to use the zone our devices you'd like smack them into life. But like the cork was cut.
I actually attached him a bit close. So every time I was smacking on, I was also smacked like beating this car.
It was like, oh, oh, yeah, because they do shout and they do.
Yeah. And then at the end, I got him there. You know, we survived eventually.
And he was still like, thanks to you, I found my friend.
Wasn't the one there was one where he was on a cross above like a volcano or something and you could hear him going, help me.
Yeah, I need to find my friend because they don't. Yeah, they like go. Yeah, that is so cute.
The sex noises in this game or something else. I don't know how kids can play this around their parents.
Is it was it the other day when you were playing? Who was you talking to?
She was like, yes, I basically the the the men have a sound. The women have a sound. Oh, cut scenes.
The cut scenes of voice acted and then everything else is like grunts.
But yeah, oh, oh, yeah. Mama.
So fucking grim. It's it really makes you fucking have a look at what what's going on.
So I was being interrupted by a group message. Yeah, but it was it.
OK, we're back. Hey, I don't know why I wouldn't just let me resume.
Normally you can press pause and then pause again and it starts playing.
We have to do a new recording. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah.
Is the other one still there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still there.
I'll just have to mash them together. Oh, techie.
You know how. So if you're listening to this and this is the beginning of the podcast,
then we've we've made some mistakes. I think we're good. Oh, no.
I've done this shit before. I think we're good. All right.
I need a wee. Oh, no. That's fine.
No, we'll fight through. I'm going to have to. For fuck's sake.
This is this is OK. OK, we're back again for the third time.
Second, third, fourth, fifth. We're here.
What was talking about? How badly you want to play Tears of the Kingdom,
but you won't want to admit it. No, I don't want to play it.
I have no interest in playing it, which is odd because I don't.
I don't. Cool. OK. Yeah.
Sorry about that. I don't apologize to me. Apologize to yourself.
I'm my I'm fucking all over World of Warcraft at the moment.
I've got no intention of playing. I've got no intention and no interest
of playing anything else.
Not that there's fucking anything good coming out anyway.
Savage. There's nothing. There's nothing.
So have you told your little friends? Oh, that makes sense.
So no, that was very fucking. I didn't mean that.
I meant that was very what's the what's the word for that?
Guild people that the little bit is the little bit.
It's the worst bit. No, because I think you're a big group.
So I meant it in the capacity. Have you little wow friends?
No, you're right there. That was that.
What's the word that we're looking for here?
Patronizing, infantilizing, whatever.
I didn't mean it. Very patronizing.
Formally apologize on the record. I did not mean it.
I immediately corrected myself. What I meant was.
I just cut that apology out.
No. Go on.
I meant that there's only a few of you, isn't there?
It's not a very big guild that you're in.
A few of us are probably like maybe like 20, 20 to 30 people.
Wow.
Anyway, no, it's not what you mean.
I'm very supportive of your wow friends.
Oh, look how supportive that was.
Where's all your Zelda friends? I don't have any.
Wow. Right.
Yeah. Anyway, so about the guy you hate.
I meant what I wanted to say was, have you told any of them
that you do a podcast or you're not there in your friendship level?
I haven't told any of them. OK.
I haven't told them. They're so nerdy. So are you.
Yes, but they. So are you.
Yes, but they take it to another level.
They're they're like, do we need to bring up call of the void?
Have you ever spoken about that on here?
What? The call of the void? Yeah.
Have you ever spoken about that on here?
I don't think so. Do we need to have an open discussion
about call of the void? What do you mean?
I wasn't that bad of call of the void.
You're getting confused with what I think is nerdy.
What? Why are you looking at me like that?
What do you think was nerdy about it? What was nerdy?
You were putting more.
Life into that than any other aspect of our relationship.
Not anything. You were.
I've never seen you so stressed and you were a fucking manager
in the pandemic. I mean, like literally a quick recap.
I used to run a guild on World of Warcraft called the call of the void,
which is probably one of the best names that I've ever seen for a guild.
And at its peak, I had 500 something members.
It was a lot of people.
Can we appreciate how you balked when I said that 20 people was little?
But anyway, carry on.
And a lot of them were cunts.
Shout out to you, Squiggy.
Whatever her fucking name was.
Basically, what happened is there was too many cooks fucking making this soup.
And it just got out of hand.
People wanted to run a discord. We started a discord.
I ain't got a fucking clue how that works.
And then someone who I still talk to now,
who's the only person I do still talk to from that guild,
was in charge of our discord.
And the shit that goes on in there and how it all works
and the different channels and stuff like that, I don't understand it.
So I have no interest in it. I don't get what this means.
And then the terminology of it, like people saying poggers.
What the fuck is that? What is that? I don't know what that is.
Or like that new... based.
Shut the fuck up. Can we just speak English, please?
Cook. What the fuck is that? K-E-W-K. What is that?
The fucking Pepe memes everywhere.
It's a different language and I'm just not in with it.
I seem like kind of old with it.
And yeah, what happened with that guild is it just...
There was just too many... Go on.
Cook is an emo and term used to show in the chat
that we are having a big laugh.
Yeah, that fucking face. I was sick of them.
What was the other one?
Oh, based. I don't know.
Fucking... We'll be here all day fucking googling the term.
Oh, it's something to do with Pepe.
Based meaning a sophisticated emote.
You can literally say anything followed with based.
It's like five head without the smart connotation.
It's fucking stupid.
But yeah, there was too many people.
And I think we had everyone from all different places
around the world, which meant the personalities
were so vastly different.
So it was quite difficult to maintain serious conversation
because some people sound like they were taking the piss
and other people didn't and other people were getting upset
with other people and blah, blah, blah, and the politics around it.
A lot of people were fucking really annoying,
squiggy. She was so fucking annoying.
She was such a bitch, man.
And her boyfriend, they both can go fuck themselves.
They were so annoying.
And what happened is I was working and I was coming home
and then, boom, I was fucking working again
because I was trying to run this fucking guild.
And then at the end I just fucking canned it.
Oh, and I can't be honest with this.
Palm off to someone else and then they changed the name
to like fucking... I think it was like E-girl lovers
or some shit like that. They fucked it.
They chose some stupid-ass fucking internet name.
And then I don't think it exists anymore.
I think it's dead in the water.
I was like, what the fuck, though?
All my hard work and effort was just fucked because these...
And wasn't there like the whole vault thing?
Wasn't there like a guild...
Fucking guild vault, putting our money in and shit like that
and people being picky about that and blah, blah, blah.
And there was one guy who was definitely a pedo.
He was definitely on a register somewhere
that we had a disconnect with. I ended up booting him out.
There was a guy I booted out because he was racist.
And he like, yeah, he said some fucking horrible stuff.
Oh, mate, it was just grim.
So ever since I stopped that,
much like Ash had with Destiny ages ago,
trying to find that community again
or just trying to find a decent community is so difficult.
And yeah, I stumbled across this guild called Hoofs and Hoes.
So join them and they're nice lads.
The geezer that runs it is from Ireland.
Everyone else is like, they seem decent
and there aren't enough other than this Max geezer.
I can't tell them that I have a podcast now
because if they listen to this,
let's be fair, they're not going to fucking make it into this long.
This Max geezer is a prick.
I can't fucking...
Should I change the name?
I can't stand...
The thing is, he's like...
This is good therapy for you. Get it out.
The thing is that brand new patches happen, a brand new raid.
And I never ever get to do the raids when they're fully current.
I always do it towards the end of the season
because I can never get into a group.
I'm never able to keep up.
Whereas this time around, I've kept up.
And I'm straight into their raid team.
And the other day, we cleared the raid.
It's only been out for two weeks
and we cleared it from start to finish in one hit,
which is quite a decent achievement.
But there's a lot of mechanics going on
on the boss fights and stuff like that.
And a lot of people don't want to do the fucking mechanics
because it takes away from your damage score and all that shit.
I don't give a fuck. I'll do them.
So I've been doing the difficult ones.
And so has this bellend Max.
And he's been fucking them up
and wiping the whole raid because of it.
And he's like, I don't know what's going wrong.
It's like, you, you prick. You keep fucking up.
I'm too new here to be calling you out on it
because I'll just get the boot.
So I'm just going to sit here with my mouth shut.
And then he keeps getting all my loot as well
because you have to roll on it and need and greed basis.
And then it's a fucking chance.
So you don't deserve it.
But then you have a DPS meter
which measures how much damage you're putting out.
And these guys, man, they're so nerdy with their damage.
I'm sitting on top because I've done this and I've done that.
And look how far I am in the rankings and blah, blah, blah.
And there's me silent as you like, just sitting on top.
Still, they've all macroed all their shit.
So they don't have to.
I use the old school way.
I use the numbers and I'm a clicker.
So I do one, two, three, four, five, six on my spells with my left hand.
Yeah.
And then the right hand, my mouse, I'll click the rest of my spells.
You tell anyone that plays World of Warcraft properly now,
they're going, that's disgusting.
How can you play like that? Blah, blah, blah.
Well, I've been doing it for like 13 years.
So I'm good at it.
And yeah, they're just, they're so nerdy.
So how will they be playing it with macros?
Yeah. So like you obviously use WASD to move and then E and T to strafe.
But what a lot of people do is they macro the S key, the E and the T,
so that your character can no longer move backwards.
You have to turn it like, because you can turn it with the mouse and all of that.
And they macro spells to them.
And then it'll be like shift T and shift E and fucking all that type of stuff to make the spell move
like spells a lot quicker.
I've tried it before. I just can't get used to it.
It doesn't work for me.
My DPS goes right down the drain when I try it.
So I'm not going to bother. It's stressful.
But these guys, they're just fucking, they're good guys.
They're just, you can just tell like, like their World of Warcraft is their absolute life.
Like absolute life.
As opposed to just their life. It is yours.
They're like hardcore with it, which is a good thing and a bad thing at the same time.
I think as long as I can keep up with them, which I am doing at the moment,
then we're all cushy because they are really nice.
They are like other than even that Max Geese is probably fucking really nice.
He just pisses me off because he keeps fucking stuff up and not taking like taking the blame for it.
But we're on over. I've cleared the raid.
We're doing it on heroic on Sunday, which is quite a big thing.
I'm enjoying it. It's just a very stressful time to be in World of Warcraft, man.
They keep taking the piss out of my class because it's a cheese class.
And I had a dig. It's the only dig that I've had of them.
I said I pay £10 a month to play this game.
Why the fuck do I want to play a class that's complicated?
I don't want to have to think when I'm playing it.
I just want to be able to do it because I play a retribution paladin.
The rotation isn't that vast. It's like fucking five buttons.
Some classes it's like 10 to 15 different spells that you've got to keep track of and all that shit.
I don't want to do that. So I'm not going to.
I'm good at this. So I'm going to keep playing.
But your class is easy. If it's that easy, jump on it then.
Start playing one as well. Get out my ass, you little prick.
Next subject. Who said it was easy?
There was just a couple of them were whinging in the fucking Discord.
About you? I think they threw up one of the DPS.
Give me their names.
I think they threw up one of the DPS tables and I was sitting on top of it because they were all fucking talking about their DPS.
And I just went hello. And they were like, oh yeah, but you've got a cheese class. It's easy for you.
I'm far too sensitive. I'd have literally just been like left.
I was like shut up. I was like yeah, I'll pay my money. I'll play whatever I want.
Grave, it's that easy. Why aren't any of you playing it? And then no one said anything.
Yeah. Oh no. Yeah no.
My ass is still going to sit on top of them DPS tables.
Connor's heard all of this. I'll ring him up complaining about it.
Because he understands. But it's just it.
Fucking wetties.
That's so mean.
My pass. I got a high pass.
That's an annoying one. Passes.
Basically, you get a pass per boss encounter that you do.
And what it means is that it will give you a ranking compared to every other one of the same class that has done that boss as well.
And the higher your pass is out of a hundred.
So if you get above seventy five is regarded as like a really good pass.
Anything under you're like you're like average or underperforming.
And after every single boss encounter, someone calls out the passes that every single person in this like a twenty man raid that every single person has done.
So be like Cadbury Cow or like Cadbury Cow.
You've got seventy two because they all sound fucking.
Maybe I'm in the wrong guild.
See you're working through your emotions.
Maybe maybe I don't know. I'm just annoyed because I can't get in a fucking group at the moment.
But I'm glad I'm in a guild. It's just fucking some of them are just I don't know.
I think it's one of those things like like with Ash where I don't see myself as being that nerdy.
But I know that I probably am. But that but to me that kind of shit is just another level of of nerdiness.
Like they're they're all over it.
I kind of envy it and I don't at the same time.
But they seem like they're having fun.
The geezer that runs it's a fire watchman.
OK. He goes all around.
He goes all around. He gets flying around the world to watch fires.
That's a good game. Firewatch.
That's a really, really good game.
It's a short game. Not that short.
It's not long. Did you ever play Everybody's Gone to Rapture?
No, but what's you play I think?
No, I never played it. Oh, everybody's gone to Rapture.
I feel like that's a game that you would love.
Very like literally entirely story based like finding out.
It's like I think it's like a love story type thing.
You'd really like it. I think it is on Switch.
Definitely. Probably one of my wishes.
I swear I've seen someone play it. Maybe I watched it on a stream.
Yes, good one. Oh, Oxenfree 2 is coming.
Remember Oxenfree? No.
Similar vein to, well, one of those decision based ones.
But it was like these kids on an island and it got all a bit like supernatural, vibey.
Aliens and, well, what was it? Aliens?
I can't really remember, but you like communicate with this radio thing.
Anyway, really good. Are you looking it up?
No, I was looking at Gollum. Oh, mad. Okay.
I can quickly look at Oxenfree. No, you're fine.
Anyway, there's just going to be a second one if anyone likes the first one.
Oxenfree. Yeah, I did try and get you to play it.
I think I had it on the game pass. Yeah, I can't say it rings a bell.
I apologize. That's okay.
But Gollum comes out soon.
I'm just trying to find the actual release date for it.
I can't seem to find it.
No, because I haven't seen anything on Gollum since we saw that game play.
It was like, what the fuck is this? This looks so shit.
This is May 25th, five days. Oh, shit.
Five days that comes out for basically everything. God, really?
Of course. And Nintendo Switch port will follow later in 2023.
I really, really love that. That's great.
Oh, here we go. Look, a new 20 minutes exclusive game play for a month ago.
I'll have to watch it after this to try and figure out.
Did you see that Amazon have bought the rights for Lord of the Rings?
I thought they already had because of what the fuck is this?
Oh, does it look bad?
Apparently this is not final quality.
I fucking hope not. What's that? What's this shit?
What the fuck's that? Surely not. No.
What's it saying?
Basically, Amazon. Yeah, go on.
Yeah, they've got the rights for Lord of the Rings and the Tolkien universe
and have said that they are already in development of making a Lord of the Rings MMO.
Now, obviously, there's already a Lord of the Rings MMO. It's very old
and still played to this day, but it's not by today's standards.
And basically, the people that are in charge of making this game have turned around
and just said that they reckon the people from the plan, the current Lord of the Rings MMO,
will just leave that and then come over to this one that they're making.
It's meant to be of the same ilk as the fucking MMO that Amazon made.
It was really popular for like a month and then just died in the water.
What was it called? Fuck, I'm going to have to Google it.
I feel so stupid because I definitely... Amazon MMO.
What was it called? What was it called? What was it called? What was it called?
New World. That's the one. New World.
Obviously, that come out and then shit the bed because there was bugs,
there was no content that was added, too late type of stuff.
They're basically giving it another crack, but making it Lord of the Rings instead.
I'm very interested in that because that seems very cool because a Lord of the Rings based MMO,
because I've played the actual MMO that is obviously out and it just looks so bad.
People have said like people say it's really good and the story on it is really, really good,
but I just can't get past that graphical aspect of it because it just it's so old.
So it's just it's I can't be doing it.
So that sounds really, really promising.
Amazon doing a lot when it comes to gaming.
They're really trying to break into the game world.
I saw Lou playing Fortnite on the lunar yesterday.
That input lag is ridiculous, by the way.
Wow. That input lag is...
Shitty controller as well, though.
Yeah, we've spoken about that before in the pod, the Amazon lunar streaming service that come out.
Obviously, it's got Fortnite on it.
Steph's sister Lucy was playing it and she bought a controller to use
because she first played control on it and it looked fantastic.
There was no issues whatsoever.
And I said, I wonder what it would be like for an online, like live service game
because streaming services are known for input lag.
It's very difficult to minimize that.
And yeah, sure enough, she played Fortnite on it.
She had a controller for it and the input lag was crazy.
It was so, it was so bad.
Obviously one was on a 60 foot controller and the other one was on like a 10 foot controller.
But even then I think it's the I think it's because obviously Fortnite is one of the it's just online game.
So streaming it and that's what I said to Lucy.
That's why Amazon brought out that lunar controller because it uses its own dedicated server for the game.
So basically is supposed to make the input lag non-existent because it's not running on the same server.
It's not having to drag resources to both.
It's just taking it from a dedicated server and then using it for that game, which is quite clever.
But other than that, I haven't really got much on the lunar because the game catalog just isn't big enough.
Yeah, I'm not ready for it.
But then you're in the mindset at the moment where nothing, nothing's pulling you away.
Nothing's going to pull me away.
Absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing.
If I can't get into any fucking groups and maybe it will soon enough.
But honestly, it's so sad.
And he always ends on a savage note and he goes, no one wants to play with me.
I'll play with you.
And he goes, you ain't good enough.
Sorry.
I don't want to play with you.
It's just Mythic plus dungeons and raids are the only ways that you can really get some decent loot.
And Mythic plus dungeons are all timed and you have to make the group yourself.
No one wants you.
And because it's the beginning of the season, it's very difficult to get into a group and it's very difficult to create a group.
Because just trying to find people is just fucking annoying.
And because it's timed, you can't leave.
Once you start, if you leave or if someone leaves, that's it.
The dungeons can't.
And then if that happens and it drops down, like the ones I'm using, I have plus 14 and I think the max is like plus 29 or something like that.
And obviously, the higher they are, the better gear you have a chance of getting them, blah, blah, blah.
And the better rating you get, basically like a ranked system.
And yes, it's just fucking as a damage dealer rather than a main like a tank or a hero.
It's just difficult to get into groups.
It's very annoying because you might spend upwards of like an hour or two hours just trying to get into a group.
And then what happened last night as I finally got into a group and then you go through it for like half an hour and then someone gets pissed off and just decides to leave.
And then it's like, right, so I've not only have I wasted two hours getting into this group, I've now wasted an extra half hour of actually doing the dungeon because someone's got annoyed and just fucked off.
So now we've all got to fucking leave and then do this all over again and get another group going.
It's very like, oh, do you never like a group with those people?
I've asked and no one's replied.
I've done it with a couple of them.
Yeah, I don't know.
Weird one.
Maybe it's because I'm just not fully integrated into this group yet.
This community needs to get myself out there more.
So after this part, maybe that's what I'll start doing.
Yeah, I was trying to find some sad instrument.
We'll get there in the end. I'm trying to get Connor to play World of Warcraft.
He said he's good.
What?
The first song that came up was this.
I can't remember how long the intro is.
That's a long intro.
Do you not know it?
I have no idea what that is.
What the hell?
It's the last song at the end of The Hobbit.
Sorry.
That's Pippin.
You know, they've got their own podcast, the two of them.
Yeah, you know who he is.
It's very good.
Oh, Billy.
Sorry.
No, I was playing.
See, my Spotify was trying its best.
They've all been listening to us.
Yeah.
And it's like, I know a song.
Sorry Spotify.
I know a sad song that will fucking end him and you just go, what's that?
What's that?
What's that about?
Who's that?
Yeah, I'm trying to get Connor to play WoW with me.
And he is very tempted.
He said he wants to get his house moved out of the way first.
Why can't you come and play ESO with me?
Because ESO isn't World of Warcraft.
Why can't you come and play World of Warcraft with me?
Because I don't like the buttons.
See?
So I'm hearing it in terms of temperature.
Yeah, but you use a fucking awful setup.
What?
Because that keyboard and that mouse is horrible for that type of stuff.
It is.
It definitely is that fucking Mac mouse for gaming.
I used the other one actually.
I used the other one for ESO.
What other one?
My other one, my little pink one.
The one I gave you?
Oh, the little pink one?
You can give me nothing.
You ain't giving me nothing.
You haven't given me a mouse.
I offered a mouse.
No you didn't.
You'd like World of Warcraft.
If you actually fucking sat down, took the time to get into it.
If you're sitting in a half decent chair and not that fucking church pew that you're banging in,
then you might actually be all right.
Ash had the same problem.
He's like, my wrist.
I go, yes, I appreciate your wrist hurt.
Change your seating position.
Change how you're doing it.
I like to like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't delete it.
Come back.
You can be my recruiter friend.
I can get some decent shit out of it.
I'll pay for your sub.
But you don't want me to play with you.
I do.
Yes, I do.
You just have to take it seriously.
You just have to be serious with it.
This is why.
There's no give and take.
You won't play with me on anything.
Look, this is why I got wound up with Ash when he played because he knew fuck all and
he didn't know how to play it.
And I lost patience straight away because I was annoyed.
Connor, on the other hand, knows what he's doing when it comes to those types of games.
So even though he'd never played well before, he could pick it up very, very quickly.
So therefore, I won't get annoyed with him because I didn't have to spoon feed him how
to play a fucking game.
He would figure it out.
And I reckon you're in the same milk as Connor is where I wouldn't have to spoon feed you
how to play World of Warcraft.
You'd just be able to fucking do it.
You thought I was going to put you in the camp of Ash then, didn't you?
No.
I just think you're brave.
You thought that Ash isn't here.
You were laying it out.
No, no, no.
You wouldn't say it to his face.
No, even if Ash was here, because we've spoken about it before, he pissed me off when we
played well together because he didn't fucking know what he was doing.
And it's so simple.
He's in like the most simple tutorial with the most basic shit going on and he can't
figure it out.
I enjoyed the tutorial.
Yeah.
I enjoyed that.
It was alright.
You'd love it.
Whether you'd be an N content type of player, I don't really know.
Hang on now.
Maybe you'd be like a Tracy player.
You couldn't stand it.
When I was ahead of you in ESO, you couldn't stand it.
No, this is different.
No, no.
And that is worse.
No, that weren't the case either.
There was no, I can't stand it.
I just designated more time into ESO than you did.
At the point at which you realised I was ahead of you?
No.
No, not at all.
No, and it's exactly the same thing with Hogwarts Legacy.
If I was ahead of you and I'd go and you go, oh, I haven't done that bit yet.
And then you're there and you're literally like sweating because you're rinsing it.
Yeah, but we were meant to be playing together.
We were meant to be playing together and then you was doing shit that I hadn't done yet.
But when you do it, is it not shit that I haven't done yet?
Yeah, but that don't matter because I'm doing it.
Right, exactly.
Exactly.
And I don't mind.
I think you would enjoy World of Warcraft.
I'm just saying.
But you don't designate nearly as much time into gaming as I do.
So therefore, you just fall behind.
You said designate.
Designate.
And I just know that it would be a pointless venture.
Right, brilliant.
But you can play ESO on your own as well.
There's nothing stopping you from playing ESO at all.
I just, I was excited to play with a friend.
So jump on World of Warcraft and then you have a friend to play well with.
Guaranteed.
Yeah, we'll see.
What do you mean yeah?
Yeah.
ESO is a very fun game, but it just doesn't scratch the same itch that World of Warcraft does.
It just doesn't.
But then I feel the opposite.
WoW doesn't feel like it as nice as ESO to me.
Yeah, but you're just living off of Skyrim.
No.
How dare you?
What do you mean how dare I?
I just did ESO some credit.
I just did.
Right, so why does me liking that mean I'm living off of Skyrim?
Because World of Warcraft's better.
No it isn't.
How dare you?
What?
Let's end this podcast now because we're going to get in a heated debate about this.
Alright, we're going to go do frisky cuffs.
Lay you out in the garden.
Yeah.
Yeah, alright mate.
It may or may not be an exclusive.
Yeah, yeah, alright lads.
Come on then.
Let's have it at.
The dog wouldn't let us anyway.
Alright.
What?
I need an outro.
We need an outro, like an intro and an outro because I feel like it always flogged when
we get to the end where it's like yeah we're going to, we're going to, we're going to fuck
off.
Wait, wait.
Hang on.
I'm going to have to skip too far.
Hang on.
You've been listening to What's the Buttons.
This has been great.
This has been episode 47.
If you want.
Pippin, shut up.
There you go.
See you later fuckers.