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they won't be able to hear the birdies.

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You don't reckon?

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No.

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But if we can hear them,

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surely that's because the mic's picking it up.

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No, these fuckers isn't, and it won't.

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No, yeah, it's weird.

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It's weird like that.

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That's true, absolutely.

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The sound sounds completely different.

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I've hit record.

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The sound sounds different on the headphones to when it.

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It's very loud.

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To when it, um.

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Are you about to turn me down?

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No.

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You fucking are.

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Turn your headset down.

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Don't turn me down.

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Is that better?

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Is that better for you?

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Yeah. Yeah?

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Oh yeah, but now I can't really hear me.

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Yeah, you've turned it right down.

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I haven't turned it right down.

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Look, just.

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That's grand.

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It's the fucking, perfect sound checking.

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Why don't you just, yeah.

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Well, you sound check normally,

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and then you go, hello.

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Like that.

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Steph's here.

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Yes, hello.

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Sorry for the lateness.

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Just had a busy weekend.

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Well, somebody was upset when they got in on Friday.

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I wasn't in a good mood on Friday,

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so I thought, well, I'm not gonna be able

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to bring you the best content like we normally do.

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So I thought, well, we'll delay it.

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But I also didn't want to put out a delayed message

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because I went through like the Patreon feed and everything.

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And it's like every other day, it just says delays, delays.

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So I don't want to keep putting a delay message out.

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Need to spice up social media, I think.

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What'd you, you reckon?

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Yeah.

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What?

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Get some other Patreon content in there, you know?

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Some like pictures or something.

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Yeah, but I.

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I'm not being funny, right?

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I subscribe to this.

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I don't feel that I'm getting my value for money.

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It's consumer feedback, is it?

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Yeah.

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There's nothing to really take pictures of though.

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Like if there was like a nicely set up studio.

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But obviously it's not here.

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Yeah, but you only see it, you know,

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even just like, pop of the week.

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Pop of the week.

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Pop of the week, you got enough.

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That's a good like six months of content.

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Food for thought.

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Pop of the week.

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I'm still trying to figure out how exactly you film it

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and record it and get the audio to sync up because.

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You just use the audio of one thing.

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Yes, but every motherfucker that I've asked,

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because it's not, it's how would you upload it?

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Because I don't know what you'd upload it to.

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What do you mean?

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YouTube.

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Yeah, but what, just YouTube?

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How do people do it on Spotify?

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I don't know, but it might be,

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you know like how some people,

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like if you're on Instagram.

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They might have a deal going.

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You have, yeah, it's like once you get a certain amount

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of followers, you can put a link in your story

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and shit like that.

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Yeah, maybe it is something to do with that.

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Yeah, why are we having a business meeting on this pod?

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I'm sorry.

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What's happening here?

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I'm sorry.

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What's happening?

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We actually have some subject to talk about.

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Do we?

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Cause we can both resonate with this.

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As we are both handheld gaming people,

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you show more than me.

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There is a competitor to the Steam Deck.

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Oh, I?

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That is coming and it's made by.

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Oh Lord, he's coming.

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It is coming and praise him.

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And it's being made by Asus.

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Oh.

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And it's called the Asus ROG.

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Just throw that to try to say the Asus ROG Ally.

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Is what it's being called as.

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It's not very, very.

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That's a working title.

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I got the Asus ROG Ally.

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And it's being released on the 11th of May.

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Stop it.

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11th of May.

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This year now?

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And they're doing a like showcase on the 10th.

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Price hasn't been revealed.

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They're going for that like sudden drop.

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Yeah, the specs have been revealed.

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And so there's speculation on the price.

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Oh, what a leg I imagine.

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In terms of, so we've been,

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we have been told that it will be under a thousand quid.

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Oh, thanks.

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So thank you.

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Thank you so much for that.

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There's speculation that I think it will be around

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about the starting model, about 560 quid.

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But when you look at the specs of it,

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it's basically double everything that the Steam Deck is.

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It's a powerful motherfucker.

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Yeah, but can you, what, what kind of system

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are we talking about here?

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So the operating system is Windows 11.

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Is what it runs on.

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you get free months of Game Pass Ultimate for free.

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Oh.

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So unlike, so the Steam Deck is obviously Steam OS.

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So it has its own thing.

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But then in part, when you switch over to desktop mode,

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and have it run in on Windows.

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So you can.

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rather than Windows 11.

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Right.

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And it's weird.

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Like Valve, they both support the Steam Deck

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being run on Windows and don't at the same time.

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So there's quite a lot of workarounds to make it happen.

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But it does run perfectly fine on Windows.

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But there's loads of people like saying before,

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like comparisons to it running on Linux.

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And are you good?

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You're just fucking twitching.

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I should have taken a hay fever tablet.

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These wind, it's fucking so itchy.

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Yeah, go on.

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It's then.

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No, cause I make the noise.

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Oh.

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That's another thing that we need.

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Everyone keeps saying you should have a mute button.

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Like a button that just automatically mutes

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your mic separately.

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So you can make noises and shit without interfering.

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Well, you put a, sorry, it's so fucking bad.

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I might have to go and get a Puritan.

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Do you want to go and have a Puritan?

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No.

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You can, I can pause it.

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We might have to.

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We can see, no finish your point.

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Cause otherwise you lose your point now.

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What was I saying?

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No.

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About how there's work around.

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Yeah, so there's comparisons to it running on Steam OS.

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And then obviously on Windows and Linux and stuff like that.

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And there isn't that much difference.

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So you can run it on Windows.

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Whereas this, this ASUS ROG ally.

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That's ridiculous.

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Will be solely on Windows.

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Now I don't know if that means it will run

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exactly how a PC would,

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or if there will be launchers pre-downloaded onto it.

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But the fact that it's going to have three months worth

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of game pass straight off the bat tells me that

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they're going to at least have the Xbox launcher on there.

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Cause obviously you would if you had Microsoft.

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But yeah, well you do with a,

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you do with Windows 11 anyway.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Don't you?

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Yeah.

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So the actual specs of the thing,

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I won't bore you with like the GPU and all that,

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all that type of shit.

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But it's going to have 16 gig of RAM,

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the same as the Steam Deck.

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It's the display is where it comes quite cool.

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So the Steam Deck is.

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What's it looking like?

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It looks like the Steam Deck.

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But it doesn't have the touch pads.

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Which I read an article and someone was like,

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this is why it's not as good as the Steam Deck.

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I don't even use the fucking touch pads.

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They're pointless unless you're running it in desktop mode.

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a desktop handheld,

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maybe the track pads would be a little bit better than,

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cause how are you, it depends how it navigates.

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But the, so the display on the Steam Deck is 60 Hertz

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and 720p.

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Which is about standard.

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The ASUS ROG is 120 Hertz, 1080p.

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So it's crisp.

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It's a decent and it comes as standard with 552 gig.

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Raw.

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Which obviously the higher end of the, so the lowest.

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Yeah, if you give your lefty knee to Valve.

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It's basically, it works out.

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If the price that's being speculated is somewhat true,

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then you're looking at a difference of 50 quid

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from the highest end Steam Deck

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to the lowest end ASUS ROG.

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Wow.

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And the highest end Steam Deck I think is 500 and something

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gig.

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So for the.

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Yeah, but I'm sorry, how much was it?

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A lot, wasn't it?

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What, the Steam Deck.

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Highest end Steam Deck was quite.

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It's about 500 and something quid.

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Anyway, so.

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The difference is about 50 quid if the prices are true.

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So for the sake of 50 quid, you could have the ASUS

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with much better hardware and the same type of storage.

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And that's just for the lowest end.

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So it's very.

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But at the same time, that being the lowest spec

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that you can get for the ASUS one does alienate,

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you know, people with less dosh to drop on something

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like this.

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Well, this is what people are saying is that Valve

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now need to obviously, obviously there's very little

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known at the moment.

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So come 10th and the 11th of May,

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when everything is out in the open,

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they're saying that Valve needs to respond in terms

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of pricing for the Steam Deck,

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because what you're going to end up with is this portable

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device with this certain amount of hardware.

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And then for an extra possibly 50 quid,

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you can have the same kind of device,

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but with double the amount of hardware in it.

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Obviously the battery life and everything is still

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speculated.

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There's nothing on there to say how long everything runs

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and things like that.

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Cause as we know,

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the battery life on the Steam Deck is fucking appalling.

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But it's definitely food for thought on this one,

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because there are other copies of the Steam Deck.

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I can't remember their names, but they're all weird names.

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But there's a couple out there.

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And this one seems to be the most,

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cause ASUS is big obviously in the PC world.

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They're big time.

284
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I remember when I was going to get the ASUS ROG phone,

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like the gaming phone,

286
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cause I was going to get the Lenovo Legion,

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but the ASUS ROG was the one with the better hardware.

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So they're not slouches.

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And the fact that they've then got this deal with Microsoft

290
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and to run Windows and everything like that,

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just as a base,

292
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I'm really intrigued to see how that works.

293
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So they're doing that showcase on the 10th of May,

294
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which is where we'll find out

295
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and we'll see like for good what everything is.

296
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Do you want me to pause it

297
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and then you can go and have a period?

298
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I'm being attacked, I won't lie.

299
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Let me pause it.

300
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Let me pause it, we'll come back.

301
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We are back and in the interim,

302
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I've been watching a YouTube video

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on someone that got a hands-on of the ASUS ROG.

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I mean, he calls it a Zeus,

305
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which just makes my skin crawl.

306
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What?

307
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Oh right, a Zeus.

308
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A Zeus ROG.

309
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Ah, it's ASUS motherfucker.

310
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Yeah, it looks pretty cool.

311
00:10:04,140 --> 00:10:08,220
I quickly like glanced over on the comments, as you do.

312
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And a lot of people complaining about the lack of touchpads.

313
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Maybe I just don't use my Steam Deck enough

314
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because for me, if you remove the touchpads,

315
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I'm not massively bothered, really.

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Like I don't use them in games.

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You can, but I tend not to.

318
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A lot of people saying that the pricing

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is gonna be a big one.

320
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So the GPU and the CPU are the same.

321
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They're made by the same people, the AMD.

322
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So that doesn't change.

323
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Obviously, the rest of the hardware in the ASUS

324
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is different, apparently it's much lighter.

325
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It's a lot less clunky.

326
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But it's difficult to really talk about

327
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the comparison and clunkiness

328
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because one's on Steam OS and one's on fucking Windows.

329
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Completely different.

330
00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:09,580
Completely different UIs and formats.

331
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For me, I think-

332
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But ultimately, they should be comparable.

333
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A lot of things are comparable.

334
00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:15,860
But I think for me, with the Steam Deck,

335
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I don't find it clunky at all because it's touchscreen.

336
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So if you're navigating with the touchpad

337
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or anything else, or the joysticks,

338
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and then there's something that is being annoying to get to,

339
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you just tap it with your finger.

340
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So therefore, it isn't clunky anymore.

341
00:11:34,020 --> 00:11:36,380
I suppose if you didn't want to actually use

342
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the touchscreen aspect of it.

343
00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:41,020
And then another thing that people were pointing out is,

344
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with it being this powerful and that light,

345
00:11:44,780 --> 00:11:47,620
people can't understand how the battery's gonna be

346
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any better than what the Steam Deck is.

347
00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:53,660
Because right now, if you're running AAA,

348
00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:55,220
well, it doesn't even have to be a AAA game

349
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on the Steam Deck, any game.

350
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So Shadow of War, Days Gone, things like that,

351
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then you're right.

352
00:12:02,660 --> 00:12:03,500
What's up?

353
00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,340
I was so allergic to the air.

354
00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:09,260
I'm looking at you, I'm fucking nostril.

355
00:12:09,260 --> 00:12:10,540
It's gonna come off.

356
00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:14,820
I'm trying, sorry, as you were, go on.

357
00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:17,780
There's no point in me shutting the doors

358
00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:18,980
because it's already in your nostrils.

359
00:12:18,980 --> 00:12:19,820
It is already in.

360
00:12:19,820 --> 00:12:20,940
It's already fucked you.

361
00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:23,660
It's dying.

362
00:12:23,660 --> 00:12:25,180
I don't have hay fever, by the way,

363
00:12:25,180 --> 00:12:27,460
so I don't understand how people struggle,

364
00:12:27,460 --> 00:12:30,260
but I'm with you on the struggle.

365
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I'm empathetic towards it.

366
00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:32,620
Sorry, carry on.

367
00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:37,860
I was just saying that with the Steam Deck,

368
00:12:37,860 --> 00:12:40,340
you really don't get a lot of time.

369
00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:42,940
Two, three hours is sort of the...

370
00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:44,580
What's this dog fucking doing?

371
00:12:45,820 --> 00:12:47,140
I don't know what she's doing.

372
00:12:47,140 --> 00:12:49,580
I'm gonna check, I'm gonna have to fucking check.

373
00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:51,980
Where were we?

374
00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:52,820
Here we are.

375
00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:55,140
Need to take this fucking pause button away from me.

376
00:12:57,100 --> 00:13:02,100
Yeah, I just think that with that kind of hardware,

377
00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:06,460
I don't think the batteries have caught up yet

378
00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:08,580
to deal with that kind of thing.

379
00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:12,100
Again, make no mistake that the games

380
00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:14,700
that will be able to be played on the Asus,

381
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obviously the exact same as the Steam Deck,

382
00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:18,980
they are not designed for handheld purposes.

383
00:13:18,980 --> 00:13:19,820
Nope.

384
00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:24,820
But in saying that, the invitation of a competitor,

385
00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:28,900
like Asus, into the handheld market

386
00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:32,020
for this type of thing is great,

387
00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:35,380
because now you have somewhat of a battle here

388
00:13:35,380 --> 00:13:38,900
for Valve and for Asus to both...

389
00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:39,940
Oh fuck.

390
00:13:39,940 --> 00:13:40,780
What?

391
00:13:40,780 --> 00:13:41,740
Did you not see that bee?

392
00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:42,980
It's all right, it's gone.

393
00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:44,540
Oh, he's there.

394
00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:45,820
You're fine, man.

395
00:13:45,820 --> 00:13:47,700
You're the one that frightened of him.

396
00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:49,100
No, I'm all right with him.

397
00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:49,940
Okay, as you were.

398
00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:50,780
I was like, I'm buzzing in my ears.

399
00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:52,100
Well, I was coming for you.

400
00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:54,060
I was just letting you know, man.

401
00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:55,900
Look, we either let the heat in with the doors open

402
00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:57,460
or we freeze in here.

403
00:13:57,460 --> 00:13:59,540
I'm doing it for our benefit.

404
00:13:59,540 --> 00:14:00,900
Obviously not for your nose.

405
00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:01,740
No.

406
00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:05,180
Yeah, I think competition's always good.

407
00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:06,820
Yes, definitely.

408
00:14:06,820 --> 00:14:07,660
Definitely.

409
00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:10,060
Stop staring at the fucking wasp.

410
00:14:10,060 --> 00:14:11,220
I'm sorry.

411
00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:12,060
I'm sorry.

412
00:14:13,860 --> 00:14:15,420
I'll be honest, it's completely throwing my point

413
00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:16,260
with the wasp.

414
00:14:17,460 --> 00:14:18,300
I'm just gonna nod.

415
00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:19,140
Yeah, lovely.

416
00:14:19,140 --> 00:14:19,980
Yeah, great.

417
00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:20,820
That's great.

418
00:14:22,540 --> 00:14:23,380
Sorry.

419
00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:27,500
But yeah, I mean, I think it's something that,

420
00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:31,260
I suppose Steam Deck or Steam Valve,

421
00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:33,500
you know, all under one term,

422
00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:37,540
has been able to kind of like corner that a bit,

423
00:14:37,540 --> 00:14:42,540
IE being the most popular of that kind of area.

424
00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:44,020
So it'd be interesting to see how it does.

425
00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:46,100
Because I mean, like you say,

426
00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:48,100
the price point is kind of,

427
00:14:48,980 --> 00:14:52,340
is the next thing to see about

428
00:14:52,340 --> 00:14:56,060
because they may not see it as a competition

429
00:14:56,060 --> 00:14:58,900
in the sense of being,

430
00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:00,860
my brain is literally full of pollen.

431
00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:03,980
What am I getting at?

432
00:15:03,980 --> 00:15:08,980
Like, if they're going for the more premium customer,

433
00:15:08,980 --> 00:15:11,980
then Steam Deck will mop up everyone else,

434
00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:12,820
won't they?

435
00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:13,660
Yeah.

436
00:15:13,660 --> 00:15:17,140
Like how, it's just not like,

437
00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:19,700
to be out, to be unaffordable

438
00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:22,940
equates to just also not being in your personal budget.

439
00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:27,020
Yeah, because it's also the Steam Deck itself.

440
00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:30,020
So I think mine was, what was it, like 320 quid?

441
00:15:30,020 --> 00:15:30,860
Something like that.

442
00:15:30,860 --> 00:15:33,420
Really not expensive for the hardware that you got.

443
00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:38,420
They both do the same thing.

444
00:15:38,420 --> 00:15:42,420
I swear to God, if you keep eye tracking this fucking wasp.

445
00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:44,420
I think it's a B, isn't it?

446
00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:47,420
I don't know, stop staring at it.

447
00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:48,260
Sorry.

448
00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:50,260
He's just fucking watching this bug.

449
00:15:50,260 --> 00:15:51,100
It's gone.

450
00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:51,940
Okay.

451
00:15:51,940 --> 00:15:52,780
Do you want me to close the door?

452
00:15:52,780 --> 00:15:53,620
No.

453
00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:55,460
Scrant, go on, sorry.

454
00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:56,300
It has gone.

455
00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:57,140
I promise you, it has gone.

456
00:15:57,140 --> 00:15:57,980
Lovely.

457
00:15:57,980 --> 00:15:59,300
I'm gonna go and get a new one.

458
00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:00,140
I'm gonna go and get a new one.

459
00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:00,980
I'm gonna go and get a new one.

460
00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:01,820
I'm gonna go and get a new one.

461
00:16:01,820 --> 00:16:02,660
I'm gonna go and get a new one.

462
00:16:02,660 --> 00:16:04,140
Lovely.

463
00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:05,420
You're looking at it now.

464
00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,460
Yeah, they both do the same thing.

465
00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:13,700
So it's not like you're missing out on anything.

466
00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:16,020
It would just be performance.

467
00:16:16,020 --> 00:16:18,980
Yeah, and I think at this point in time,

468
00:16:18,980 --> 00:16:21,020
I don't really think that there's any one person

469
00:16:21,020 --> 00:16:24,220
that's gonna come and ruin.

470
00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:26,620
I saw a thing the other day about how over the years,

471
00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:29,460
and it's all the browsers that have been in favor.

472
00:16:30,340 --> 00:16:31,380
Firefox.

473
00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:34,740
Yeah, and there was Opera, Netscape.

474
00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:36,140
Shit, they don't even know exactly,

475
00:16:36,140 --> 00:16:37,620
but they were huge.

476
00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:39,300
And then you watch and literally,

477
00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:41,820
it goes into the Explorer, takes overload,

478
00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:43,420
and then one day it just goes Chrome

479
00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:46,060
and just goes all the way around.

480
00:16:46,060 --> 00:16:47,620
I don't think we're at that point yet

481
00:16:47,620 --> 00:16:48,460
where it's gonna be like,

482
00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:49,780
oh, do you remember the Steam Deck?

483
00:16:49,780 --> 00:16:51,420
Yeah, yeah, oh, barely,

484
00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:54,300
because Asus, they've got this big thing.

485
00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:55,780
Like you were saying with the battery and stuff,

486
00:16:55,780 --> 00:16:59,260
there's so much limitations at the moment with the hardware

487
00:16:59,260 --> 00:17:01,820
that I don't necessarily think anyone at Valve is like,

488
00:17:01,820 --> 00:17:04,940
oh, fuck, oh my God, we're gonna have to really do this.

489
00:17:04,940 --> 00:17:06,300
It's kind of like that,

490
00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:09,180
we're almost in that experimentation phase

491
00:17:09,180 --> 00:17:11,340
where everyone's trying out new shit.

492
00:17:12,620 --> 00:17:14,180
The whole console wars,

493
00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:19,860
you're gonna get people who will keep,

494
00:17:19,860 --> 00:17:21,780
like yourself, at the end of the day,

495
00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:25,740
Xbox would have to bring out some nutty, crazy thing

496
00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:30,100
for you personally to ever leave PlayStation behind,

497
00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:31,220
it's fair to say.

498
00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:32,580
Whereas obviously you've got people,

499
00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:34,980
I mean, Ash, me, whatever,

500
00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:37,420
it's like, I'll get what I get because I want it.

501
00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:42,340
Not necessarily being crazy loyal to just one.

502
00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:46,220
And there were people who have a Steam Deck

503
00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:47,980
that will try it,

504
00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:50,660
but there are people who have that like,

505
00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:52,700
no, I'm sticking with what I like.

506
00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:56,420
I think it's like with the Xbox and the PlayStation ideas,

507
00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:58,900
I've always been PlayStation, obviously,

508
00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:01,900
because that's what my mom got me when I was a fucking child.

509
00:18:03,020 --> 00:18:04,660
And I think now,

510
00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:07,660
there's so much of a lack of difference

511
00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:09,180
between the two of them.

512
00:18:09,180 --> 00:18:13,180
They are the same thing, they both run the same.

513
00:18:13,180 --> 00:18:14,900
Obviously there's very slight difference,

514
00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:17,300
but they do the same shit, so what's the point?

515
00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:20,420
And I mean, I might upset,

516
00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:23,100
but they kind of always have been.

517
00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:24,740
Yeah, yeah, similar, yeah.

518
00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:27,180
Spec differences, exclusive titles,

519
00:18:27,180 --> 00:18:29,900
but they've always been both ways.

520
00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:31,340
They've never been...

521
00:18:31,340 --> 00:18:33,420
Yeah, they've never been different to a point where say,

522
00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:34,620
a Call of Duty comes out

523
00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:36,260
and one's gonna run it better than the other.

524
00:18:36,260 --> 00:18:39,420
They're both designed to run it exactly the same.

525
00:18:39,420 --> 00:18:43,340
And when you're looking at, well, put it this way,

526
00:18:43,340 --> 00:18:45,780
when we compared the two switches,

527
00:18:45,780 --> 00:18:48,980
prior to seeing them next to each other,

528
00:18:48,980 --> 00:18:52,700
it's not like the OG switch was bad.

529
00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:53,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

530
00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:55,060
It's like, until you get something new,

531
00:18:55,060 --> 00:18:58,580
or like when we were playing fucking Simpsons Hit and Run,

532
00:18:58,580 --> 00:18:59,580
you weren't looking at this going,

533
00:18:59,580 --> 00:19:00,940
Jesus, these graphics are chewy.

534
00:19:00,940 --> 00:19:01,780
You know what I mean?

535
00:19:01,780 --> 00:19:04,740
It was of its time and then it's only when it gets better.

536
00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:08,540
Even like old photos, home videos, whatever, old shows,

537
00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:10,540
you know, like when they were like old ass.

538
00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:14,500
I feel like with the consoles that we,

539
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:16,900
with the PS5 and the Xbox One,

540
00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:21,220
we have hit a point now where how good

541
00:19:21,220 --> 00:19:23,100
can the graphics truly get?

542
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,580
How far can we really push this to a point

543
00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:27,500
where it's even gonna be no, like you-

544
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,020
It's gonna look like you're playing real life.

545
00:19:29,020 --> 00:19:30,100
You're gonna hit a wall.

546
00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,540
Eventually you're gonna hit a wall when it comes to,

547
00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:37,500
when it comes to visuals where is,

548
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,620
you ain't gonna be able to go any higher

549
00:19:39,620 --> 00:19:42,100
than what your eyes can already fucking perceive.

550
00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:43,460
So therefore you have to look,

551
00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:44,580
you have to venture elsewhere.

552
00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:47,980
The PS5 and the Xbox One in how they look

553
00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:49,460
is fucking incredible.

554
00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:51,580
Obviously there is room to go further,

555
00:19:51,580 --> 00:19:55,260
but I don't think there is that much room to go further.

556
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:57,660
We see some of the shit on Unreal Engine 5.

557
00:19:57,660 --> 00:19:59,740
Like that body cam, I don't know if you've seen it,

558
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,620
that body cam game where it was like,

559
00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:05,220
it's not out yet and I don't know if it will be,

560
00:20:05,220 --> 00:20:07,980
but that guy running around a building shooting people

561
00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,500
and it's from the point of view of a body cam.

562
00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,300
And there was genuine concerns of people

563
00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:15,020
thinking that this was real footage of someone

564
00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:16,180
running around shooting people.

565
00:20:16,180 --> 00:20:19,220
Cause they're like, this is so realistic.

566
00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:20,900
And it was all done in Unreal Engine 5.

567
00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:22,980
And it's like, yeah, some of the stuff you see

568
00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:27,980
is fucking crazy and trying to package that into a game

569
00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:31,260
that you can sell and make a profit out of.

570
00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:33,500
Obviously like we've spoken about so much before

571
00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:36,380
until they drop the previous generations

572
00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:38,500
and just focus solely on what we've got now,

573
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,820
that idea of being able to run games like that

574
00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:45,700
will not happen because the older generations,

575
00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:47,420
PS4, things like that, they can't run it.

576
00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:48,660
They can't do that.

577
00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:50,260
But that time is coming.

578
00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:55,220
But I think in terms of the console wars,

579
00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:59,620
I think the shift has changed from it being a purely

580
00:20:59,620 --> 00:21:02,900
like graphics type thing to things like

581
00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:05,860
what each company can offer.

582
00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:08,900
So you look at Xbox Game Pass, fucking incredible.

583
00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:10,060
The amount of games you can get on that

584
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:12,380
on day one releases, mental.

585
00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:14,980
PlayStation's version is shit.

586
00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:17,860
So you get people who are gonna go, right,

587
00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:21,180
well, these two consoles are basically the same thing,

588
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:22,460
but for 10 pound a month,

589
00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:26,180
I can get this whole massive catalog on day one releases

590
00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:27,980
or for 10 pound a month,

591
00:21:27,980 --> 00:21:31,300
I can get this stuff that I'm just not interested in.

592
00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,260
So I'm gonna go for this one.

593
00:21:33,260 --> 00:21:37,700
And especially with things like incorporating Discord

594
00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:40,460
and cross play into these consoles,

595
00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:43,660
there is no difference between, it isn't,

596
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:45,420
oh, I can't play with you because I'm on Xbox

597
00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:47,140
and you're on PlayStation.

598
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:51,220
I mean, fuck me, we had it where you look at No Man's Sky.

599
00:21:51,220 --> 00:21:54,140
So Connor can be on his PC, I can be on my PlayStation

600
00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:56,580
and Ash can get fucking No Man's Sky on his Xbox

601
00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:58,900
and we can all play the same fucking game

602
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,140
talking to each other.

603
00:22:00,140 --> 00:22:01,100
It's crazy.

604
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:02,860
And then yeah, like PlayStation has Discord

605
00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:04,180
incorporated into it.

606
00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:06,580
I don't actually know if Xbox does or doesn't,

607
00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:09,180
but I'd imagine if it doesn't, it will do very soon

608
00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:11,540
or it might already have, I really don't know.

609
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:18,180
So the borders between gaming are so minuscule now.

610
00:22:19,260 --> 00:22:23,260
Even on the Steam Deck, you can play with people,

611
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:25,020
if it's a cross play game,

612
00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:28,380
so I could be playing whatever with you

613
00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:32,100
and you could be on a fucking Xbox or PlayStation or PC

614
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,500
and I'm on a fucking handheld sitting in my bed.

615
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,580
It's got a cross play on the Switch as well.

616
00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:39,180
Yeah, so I think, yeah, even the Switch,

617
00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:40,820
we're fucking missing out that one as well.

618
00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:44,060
And that's a console that's completely separate

619
00:22:44,060 --> 00:22:47,820
from everything else that can still intertwine itself

620
00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:49,620
with everything else.

621
00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:51,780
So I don't think that it is hardware and things

622
00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:56,020
that are necessarily the gap creator anymore.

623
00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:58,820
I think it is what people are getting offered

624
00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:01,380
and value for money in terms of,

625
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,700
I think cloud gaming is becoming a big thing now.

626
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:05,540
Yeah.

627
00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:06,660
You look at Luna.

628
00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:09,660
Yeah, and that would, this business of,

629
00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:12,260
like when I say hardware, I think that's kind of like

630
00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:16,420
the universal thing that's in the way of everyone.

631
00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:18,820
You know what I mean, in the sense that,

632
00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:21,220
you know, they want something like the Steam Deck.

633
00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:27,700
The state of the battery life of the Steam Deck

634
00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:31,340
is something that I imagine they sat for days

635
00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:32,740
and days trying to, you know,

636
00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:36,100
that is the best of the best at the moment.

637
00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:40,020
But yeah, I think cloud gaming, that's a shocker.

638
00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:43,300
Like seeing Lou playing Control

639
00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:47,500
and it's not even downloaded on our relatively shit internet

640
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,660
and it looking pretty much like it did on your PlayStation

641
00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:53,100
was tripping. With almost no input lag

642
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:55,500
because it's not running on,

643
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:57,860
it's running on a dedicated server,

644
00:23:57,860 --> 00:24:00,260
which trying to get your head around it.

645
00:24:00,260 --> 00:24:03,940
So the game that you're streaming from the launcher

646
00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:07,020
that you're streaming it from, it's separate.

647
00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:09,020
So you're launching the game from a launcher,

648
00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:11,540
but the game's actually being run from a different server,

649
00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:12,980
which has nothing to do with the launcher

650
00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:14,580
to reduce input lag.

651
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:16,540
You're playing that on a fucking fire stick.

652
00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:19,620
Yeah, and then you can buy an actual controller

653
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:23,580
designed for that to further reduce any input lag

654
00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:26,060
so that it's basically non-existent

655
00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:28,380
because that's obviously the massive issue

656
00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:31,660
with cloud gaming is input lag.

657
00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:34,420
Not so much for single player games,

658
00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:36,740
but definitely for online games like The Division,

659
00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:38,220
you can't, or Call of Duty,

660
00:24:38,220 --> 00:24:39,540
you can't be having that input lag

661
00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:41,180
because you're gonna get fucked up by the people

662
00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:42,020
that you're coming across.

663
00:24:42,020 --> 00:24:46,420
So trying anything you can to reduce that is massive.

664
00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:50,980
But that Amazon Luna was seeing it firsthand,

665
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:52,380
a very nearly bought into it.

666
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:54,380
But after reviewing the gaming catalog,

667
00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:57,380
I thought it's not enough for me to go for it.

668
00:24:57,380 --> 00:25:02,260
But when you've got a massive company like Amazon,

669
00:25:02,260 --> 00:25:04,580
you've got unlimited amounts of money.

670
00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:06,940
They've already got Prime Gaming and things like that

671
00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:08,740
that they're venturing into.

672
00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:10,900
So it's a very interesting concept

673
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:13,200
because you used to have PlayStation Now,

674
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,380
which was cloud gaming, and it was fucking awful.

675
00:25:17,380 --> 00:25:18,740
It was really, really poor.

676
00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:21,060
Even with a decent connection, it was really poor.

677
00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:22,940
And the quality of the game,

678
00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:24,380
the graphics would like plump,

679
00:25:24,380 --> 00:25:25,660
well, when you're watching a YouTube video

680
00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:28,060
and it goes to fucking 360p or whatever,

681
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:29,820
it would be like that.

682
00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:30,980
And that's what I was expecting

683
00:25:30,980 --> 00:25:33,660
when I saw Lou crank up Luna.

684
00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:35,240
And don't get it mistaken, people.

685
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,780
She's not playing it on some fucking crazy

686
00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:39,140
tele setup and stuff like that.

687
00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:42,900
It's literally like the kind of TV you'd see in a car wash

688
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,700
with a fucking fire stick plugged into it.

689
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:47,500
And she's sitting on the edge of her bed

690
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:51,220
and it's like really streamlined and looked really good.

691
00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:53,140
It's cool, it was impressive.

692
00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:55,740
Yeah, very, very unexpected.

693
00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:57,780
And I'm excited to see kind of where that goes.

694
00:25:57,780 --> 00:25:59,460
Because that's the thing, kind of like what we're saying

695
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:01,180
just then about the browsers, like shit,

696
00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:02,640
what if in like 10 years time, we were like,

697
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,340
ha, remember when you had a physical console?

698
00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:06,740
And actually all of a sudden,

699
00:26:06,740 --> 00:26:08,740
we're just playing it in the fucking cloud.

700
00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:10,080
I'm crazy.

701
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,600
And that would be like, I think,

702
00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:15,420
perhaps the only thing that would

703
00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:20,660
make all of these different companies kind of obsolete,

704
00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:23,500
not obsolete, but if there is this,

705
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:28,500
if someone cracks this universal, like cloud based

706
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:31,920
and it's just perfect and crisp and all that shit,

707
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,180
what is the reason for shutting out for a console?

708
00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:38,540
Why would you do it if it's so accessible?

709
00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:41,700
It is somewhat there with Luna.

710
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:42,700
Oh, it's not though.

711
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:44,480
No, I mean in the sense that,

712
00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:48,580
you know, like there are no more exclusives,

713
00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:51,060
everything is on it, everything's available.

714
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:54,340
Like there's no reason to not.

715
00:26:54,340 --> 00:26:56,500
In an ideal world, you would,

716
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:00,240
but even then is it ideal in that you get rid of,

717
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,440
you don't have Sony, you don't have Microsoft,

718
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,680
you don't have Nintendo, it's all one thing,

719
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,020
but then you don't get the competitiveness of it

720
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:11,220
and obviously the money that's invested

721
00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:14,380
and the drive to do different things.

722
00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:16,940
Or I mean in the sense of like Spotify.

723
00:27:16,940 --> 00:27:20,660
In the sense that, no, who's buying the CD?

724
00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:24,900
You buy a CD now, the last 50 CDs I've bought,

725
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,180
I've probably never even played them.

726
00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:27,020
I just bought them to support it.

727
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:27,860
It's a nostalgia thing.

728
00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:28,700
Do you know what I mean?

729
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,900
You're still having that individuality,

730
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,060
but it's under one umbrella.

731
00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:36,580
But even then it's actually, to be fair,

732
00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:39,860
I suppose that is, perhaps that's how it will continue

733
00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:42,980
in the sense that really it's not just Spotify,

734
00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:45,580
it's Spotify, Deezer, Apple Music.

735
00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:47,700
Like they are still individual

736
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:48,900
and you do still make that choice

737
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,640
of something that is ultimately the same.

738
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:53,780
Maybe that's how they do it.

739
00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:56,420
You have like Sony Cloud.

740
00:27:56,420 --> 00:28:01,420
Yeah, I think the Cloud gaming is a very real thing

741
00:28:04,420 --> 00:28:07,300
that is fast approaching.

742
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,140
Well, again, we've touched on it before

743
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:15,740
in the digital age about how even the gaming disks

744
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:16,980
are becoming obsolete.

745
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,140
It used to be that you downloaded half the game

746
00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:22,540
was sitting on the disk and half of it wasn't.

747
00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:24,420
A lot of games now that are coming out on the disk,

748
00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:27,500
it's just the fucking key for a digital download.

749
00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:30,580
And quite a few games are coming out

750
00:28:30,580 --> 00:28:33,580
where certain editions don't actually have the disk anymore.

751
00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:37,780
And then you look at the PlayStation 5 Pro

752
00:28:37,780 --> 00:28:40,100
that is apparently supposed to be coming out

753
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:43,700
and then a new version of the PS5 where it will be,

754
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:47,100
she's just tried fucking running,

755
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,700
spun around in circles,

756
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:53,620
where it will be a digital only console

757
00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:56,540
that will be sold or you can buy, sorry,

758
00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:58,740
a separate disk reader.

759
00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:00,180
So as to not alienate all the people

760
00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:01,140
that have already bought the disk.

761
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,420
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

762
00:29:02,420 --> 00:29:04,940
And then you watch the next iteration of that, nothing.

763
00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:07,160
And that disk reader is interchangeable.

764
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,640
I think it's meant to be like 80 quid or something like that.

765
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,000
So it further like pumps up the digital age of it

766
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520
in that you won't need the physical copies

767
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,960
because really and truly, I can't remember the last,

768
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Dead Island 2 is the latest game that I bought

769
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,520
that's a physical.

770
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920
And then before then I can't fucking tell you.

771
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,840
Definitely inside.

772
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Yeah, even then I got returns.

773
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,000
But you don't need to buy physical anymore

774
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,080
because everything's digital.

775
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,920
And the price gap isn't that big anymore.

776
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Obviously, I think the PlayStation Store takes the piss

777
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,800
in their pricing on digital.

778
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,680
I've never understood why a digital copy

779
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840
should cost more than a physical in my life,

780
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,280
but that's normally how it works.

781
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,200
But the gap is closing.

782
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,240
But most new games I buy, unless Amazon's doing a deal,

783
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,320
will be digital anyway.

784
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,840
Yeah, yeah.

785
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Because you've got the storage for it now as well.

786
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,040
Yeah, but then I suppose, then you, I think,

787
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,760
you know, like the, is it a conspiracy probably?

788
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,560
This idea that they're trying it so that no one

789
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,120
will truly own everything, anything or other, I should say.

790
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,080
And there is, I can see it in the sense that having

791
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,240
that tangible product that you physically own it

792
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,880
versus it all being online, there is that.

793
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,320
And then, you know, the idea of, well, think about

794
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880
when we were in school and you're lending games,

795
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,000
you're lending CDs and shit to your mates,

796
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080
and that just doesn't happen now.

797
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

798
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240
I mean, obviously it does in some format,

799
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,920
but really you can't, I mean, shit, even,

800
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,400
it's kind of a real diversion,

801
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,240
but it kind of makes my point.

802
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,720
At the hospital, how many times we would go

803
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,120
and you'd use your ticket, and then you still

804
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,440
had two hours left, so you'd scour the car park

805
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,480
and you'd hand it to someone.

806
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Yeah, yeah.

807
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,160
Well, no, now it's gone.

808
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760
You pay, he's got your reg, you pay when you leave,

809
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,600
and off you go.

810
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,840
Yeah, because they want more fucking money out of you.

811
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Yeah, and little cute things like that,

812
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,560
that's like a connection between two people is just going.

813
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
But game sharing is there.

814
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,560
You do it, Colin does it on Xbox with one of his pals.

815
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840
Like, so only one of them buys a game,

816
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,320
and they just game share it.

817
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,680
So they both got access to it, the same as,

818
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,320
obviously I know it's not what we're talking about,

819
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,080
but the physical copies of games,

820
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840
you can hand them to someone else and they can fucking have.

821
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,080
That's what I'm saying, it's gone.

822
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,280
It's going.

823
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Yeah, but I think it's still there,

824
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160
it's just becoming digital, but obviously they are making

825
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,600
it a lot more difficult to actually share a game.

826
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,440
There's been a couple of games,

827
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,120
I can't remember the names of them,

828
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,080
but there's been a couple of games

829
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000
that me and Mark have played where only one of us.

830
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Yes, but they are co-op games though.

831
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,200
Yeah, and a way out and it takes two.

832
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,480
But even then I think that was,

833
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,920
you can only play that if someone else,

834
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,360
if that person is playing it.

835
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Yeah, yeah.

836
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,200
You're a piggybacking.

837
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,040
But this is what I'm saying,

838
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240
so Dead Island, you can give that to Mark,

839
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,280
but you can't give Shadow of War.

840
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,240
No, yeah, yeah.

841
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,480
And this is what I'm saying,

842
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,360
when you look at, in my cupboard,

843
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,120
all of the Xbox 360, all the things like that,

844
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080
you think Xbox 360 is like a whole shelf,

845
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Xbox One, there's like five games,

846
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,920
because of exactly that reason.

847
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400
I can't even log into a different PlayStation

848
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,560
and start downloading games that I've purchased digitally.

849
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Because it knows that's not my PlayStation.

850
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,360
So I can only download the games that that PlayStation

851
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160
knows has been purchased on that PlayStation.

852
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,560
And you are also at-

853
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,800
It's a primary, innit?

854
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,200
You're at the discretion of the terms and conditions,

855
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,760
in the sense that, so like you were saying,

856
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,600
this game sharing, so Colin,

857
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880
currently he's sharing his games with his mates.

858
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,240
Oh, until actually new terms roll in,

859
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,360
that don't happen anymore.

860
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Yeah, yeah.

861
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880
You know, it's nutty when you see

862
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,400
how quickly they can change stuff,

863
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,240
but you're already agreeing to it.

864
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,040
You're at the mercy, but like you say,

865
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,880
with the conspiracy that,

866
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,440
oh, you never own anything,

867
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,520
they can just switch it off with a touch of a button

868
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,360
and stuff like that.

869
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280
But even if you do own the games,

870
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000
they can do that now,

871
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,800
because you need to run it on the servers.

872
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,240
A lot of, you'll be amazed how many PlayStation games

873
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,080
require you to have PlayStation Plus to actually play them.

874
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Fucking loads of them.

875
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,720
So, I mean, it's never really been something

876
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,760
that I give a fuck about,

877
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,600
because I think if they're gonna switch it off,

878
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,720
they're gonna switch it off, there's nothing I can do.

879
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,640
But they're not gonna do that,

880
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,080
because you'd miss out on loads of money.

881
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,360
Why bother?

882
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Why make that a thing?

883
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,560
But it, so much stuff that you buy into

884
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,560
is at the mercy of the company that owns it.

885
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Even trying to fucking return a game

886
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,120
that you've bought digitally is impossible.

887
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Like with PlayStation's one,

888
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,400
if you buy the game,

889
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,360
it automatically starts downloading said game.

890
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,320
Most times, I think they might've changed it now.

891
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,240
And in their terms and conditions,

892
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:22,360
it's if you've started downloading the content,

893
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,240
not played it, it voids your ability to refund it.

894
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:29,000
So it's like, well, you fucked me there then.

895
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880
So if I've downloaded it, but not played it,

896
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520
I can't return it.

897
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,680
Like I said, I think that must've been changed now.

898
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,240
Well, and even like, I find the Ragnarok special edition

899
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:44,080
an interesting one, because, so you have this,

900
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,760
you've got this limited edition box set.

901
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,400
And yet if you wanna sell that, you're not selling the game.

902
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Yeah, because I've already used the code

903
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,520
because it didn't come with a fucking physical.

904
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,440
I don't like that.

905
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,280
I don't like that.

906
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,400
Yeah, don't give me a fucking empty steel book.

907
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,720
Don't give me, I don't think there's an issue

908
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:10,520
with making games that won't have a physical copy.

909
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,320
So let's say they made Dead Island 2 and they went,

910
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,800
we've made this game, it's digital only.

911
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,800
There will be no physical, unless you buy

912
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,160
a steel book version, or you buy a collector's edition,

913
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,480
which comes with a steel book,

914
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,240
which will have a physical copy of the game in it.

915
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,960
But there were copies of that.

916
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,960
No.

917
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,800
There were disc copies of Ragnarok.

918
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,280
Yeah, there were, but I'm saying.

919
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,320
But why can't they just fucking add that shit in?

920
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,160
So that was what?

921
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360
That was 180-odd quid for that edition, right?

922
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,760
So if I wanted to have the God of War Ragnarok game

923
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,520
in the steel book, or in the steel case,

924
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,640
I would have to spend another 60, 70 quid

925
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880
on the physical copy of the game

926
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,360
to then put that disc in that steel book.

927
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,280
Yeah, it takes a piece, doesn't it?

928
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,360
It takes the absolute piece.

929
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,160
You shouldn't have a collector's edition.

930
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,440
You shouldn't have any edition

931
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,480
other than the standard edition offering,

932
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,400
not offering the disc.

933
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Especially if the price range goes above 90 quid,

934
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,360
then give me the fucking physical disc.

935
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,080
But I do agree that it's not necessarily an issue

936
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,120
for the baseline copy of a game

937
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,160
to not actually have a physical with it.

938
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Yeah, yeah.

939
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,800
Because I feel like that's not the,

940
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,360
even the standard game case, like that Dead Island 2 case,

941
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,560
I keep referring to Dead Island 2

942
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,360
because it's the only fucking physical game that I bought.

943
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,800
There's nothing special about the case.

944
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,880
The artwork, there's nothing crazy about it.

945
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,720
But then isn't that crazy in itself

946
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,680
that there's that element of rarity

947
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,000
where you're expecting something.

948
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,840
Do you know what I mean?

949
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Like it used to just be, that's just a game case.

950
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,760
You know what I mean?

951
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,600
It was that, was that.

952
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,000
And now because you don't get them,

953
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,080
when you do get them, you're like, oh, it's boring.

954
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,960
Yeah, you go, yeah, go, I want something to look cool.

955
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,160
I've got like an art card.

956
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

957
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,520
Yeah, I see what you mean.

958
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,080
And yet shit comes back around.

959
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,400
Like I think you've got people now that,

960
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,760
or even something like vinyl, it's just weird.

961
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,320
Like the idea that a CD and DVD makes you feel so old

962
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,000
that they're like, I haven't bought a fucking film on DVD.

963
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,880
The idea that there's people around now

964
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160
that don't know what a cassette and a CD is.

965
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,000
Oh, I don't.

966
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,040
What a CD is.

967
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Who the fuck doesn't know what a CD is?

968
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,440
If you're listening to this podcast now

969
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,880
and you don't know what a CD is, stop listening, please.

970
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,720
No, don't be like that.

971
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:40,920
It's just crazy.

972
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,760
How?

973
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Embrace the young generation.

974
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,840
Yeah, that's crazy.

975
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,040
I don't think gaming will ever go backwards like that.

976
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,520
I don't think necessarily it will revisit.

977
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Well then look at the-

978
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,960
But I suppose, no, that's, no,

979
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,160
no, let me take the back of that statement

980
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,400
because I feel like, yeah, I'm wrong in saying that

981
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,960
because I feel like there's a lot of older stuff

982
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,920
that was good but just wasn't good enough to last.

983
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,360
And I feel like with today's technology and advancements,

984
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,400
you can revisit a lot of old stuff

985
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,920
and majorly improve it to make it a hell of a lot better.

986
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Well, even fucking looking at the

987
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Tears of the Kingdom Edition Switch that you've got

988
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,960
that you won't open.

989
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,720
Even like when you had a look at it

990
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,960
to make sure that it was fucking working

991
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,040
because it had a fat dent in the box

992
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,840
right on the fucking corner of the actual console itself,

993
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,680
grim.

994
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,120
Personally, I would complain.

995
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,400
The quality of life improvements,

996
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,280
like with the kickstand and then the rubber feet.

997
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,440
The little rubber feet, I know.

998
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,600
It's little things like that

999
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,800
that you don't necessarily realize that you need

1000
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,680
but when it is done, you go,

1001
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,480
oh, fucking hell, that makes life so much easier.

1002
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,760
Little revisits like that,

1003
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,800
which I think have been done to a lot of stuff.

1004
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,360
On the Switch itself, obviously they've got,

1005
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,520
I believe it's only when you're

1006
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,240
a member of Nintendo Switch Online,

1007
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,120
but they have all the virtual consoles

1008
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,800
and they've recently cracked out Game Boy Advance

1009
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,240
and I think Game Boy original.

1010
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840
And when you're playing, so there's like

1011
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,000
the usual, obviously not all of them had save game,

1012
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,520
but you have that, you have suspension points,

1013
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480
but you're also in any game,

1014
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,640
you just rewind it.

1015
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Just rewind it.

1016
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,600
So if you fuck up, you don't necessarily have to die

1017
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,280
and do all that shit, you can just rewind it.

1018
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,120
You can just rewind it.

1019
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,400
Yeah, I'll show you later.

1020
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,760
That's cool.

1021
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,600
Oh, that's cool, I like that.

1022
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Yeah, it's great.

1023
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,260
I like that a lot.

1024
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,280
It's great, so that is that kind of frustrating element

1025
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,240
that was always with older games

1026
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,640
where it is just like, game over, fuck it.

1027
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,480
And that kind of thing.

1028
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,320
How clever is that?

1029
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Yeah, you just rewind.

1030
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,360
So rather than just having to restart the entire level

1031
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,280
or something, you just go.

1032
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Rewind.

1033
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,400
That's like Prince of Pearls, The Sands of Time,

1034
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,920
when you could fucking rewind time with that one.

1035
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,200
That's cool, I like that.

1036
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,240
Yeah, and it's that, like,

1037
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,880
there's that weird, I suppose, for me,

1038
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,160
I guess maybe slightly different in the sense that

1039
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,280
I cling onto everything, so I could literally fire up

1040
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600
a Game Boy Color and crack it out.

1041
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,480
But I appreciate that a lot of people don't have that.

1042
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're like me,

1043
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,920
and you don't keep onto anything.

1044
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,720
Yeah, that must be even more of a sort of like, wow,

1045
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,920
to just kind of, because I know,

1046
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920
I think you and I are kind of the same where

1047
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,960
older games don't, it has to be like a certain game to me

1048
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,040
to actually want to sit there and grind it out

1049
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,880
like I used to.

1050
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1051
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,800
But just seeing it again and seeing it on a bigger screen

1052
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,640
and colour and backlit.

1053
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,640
This is prime example for that is World of Warcraft Classic.

1054
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:00,920
Yeah.

1055
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,240
Versus Retail.

1056
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,800
I started playing Classic a little bit

1057
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,280
just because of the nostalgia aspect of it,

1058
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,280
because I remember that feeling of playing it

1059
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,320
when it wasn't Classic and it was like Retail.

1060
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,640
And yeah, I played it for about 10 hours

1061
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,600
and thought this is really, really good.

1062
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,600
But slowly you start to see the quality of life changes

1063
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:34,000
that aren't implemented in the Classic version.

1064
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,120
So you go, oh, this is, so even little things like

1065
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,400
when you get a quest, now in Retail,

1066
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,680
it gives you a map marker.

1067
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,840
It tells you where to go.

1068
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,600
It shows you on the map where you need to go.

1069
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,160
And then it has dialogue that tells you

1070
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,680
exactly what you need to do to fulfil this quest.

1071
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,960
Whereas in Classic, there's none of that.

1072
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,800
There's none of it.

1073
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600
You have to actually read the quest log

1074
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,000
and try and figure out what it is that you need to do.

1075
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,040
And obviously in Classic, you can put add-ons on it

1076
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,440
that would tell you what to do and blah, blah, blah.

1077
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,640
And a lot of people say that,

1078
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,040
a lot of people that play Classic over Retail

1079
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,360
will say, yeah, Classic's really good

1080
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,760
if you put these certain add-ons on.

1081
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,120
If you just make it a lot like the Retail.

1082
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Yeah, which I call it a lot.

1083
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,840
And then you get people like myself,

1084
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,520
and there are a lot of people like me who go,

1085
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,720
yep, Classic's cool, but the nostalgia weren't the same

1086
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,640
because you very quickly realised that that grind

1087
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,040
that you loved has been made so much easier

1088
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,880
and more accessible in Retail with quality of life

1089
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,160
and the graphics and the way it plays

1090
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,880
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1091
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,200
So yeah, back to your point.

1092
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,720
What was that, buying a car and then going, oh, walk.

1093
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:42,720
Yeah, yeah, it's sometimes how things have adapted

1094
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,560
and have become over time are just so much better

1095
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,680
than it's Genesis.

1096
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,840
And I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing

1097
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,280
to sort of like take the original something

1098
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,880
and put it on a shelf and go, you did good.

1099
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Like you are the reason why this is how it is

1100
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,320
because you took the first steps.

1101
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,840
And I feel like with handheld gaming,

1102
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,640
this is what Nintendo Switch has done.

1103
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440
This is what Steam Deck's doing.

1104
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,040
This is what Asus is doing.

1105
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,240
Asus is there because of Steam Deck.

1106
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,960
And I feel like Steam Deck is heavily there because of Switch.

1107
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,720
You always look to something to create something new.

1108
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:30,720
And that competition and that understanding

1109
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,600
is just really cool.

1110
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,040
And I think, yeah, there are some people

1111
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,920
that will always resonate with the old shit.

1112
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,720
And then there's people like us that will go,

1113
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:38,680
yeah, that stuff's cool,

1114
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,520
but I'm not interested in it anymore because of that.

1115
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,160
I've got all this stuff and I'm interested in this stuff.

1116
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,160
It's like when you look at games like Pong or Arkanoid,

1117
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,560
and that was crazy.

1118
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,080
Even the Commodore 64 didn't even have a screen.

1119
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,600
But that was crazy.

1120
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,560
That was the newest.

1121
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,760
It's like when people looking back at stuff

1122
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,840
and yeah, to look at it now,

1123
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,560
oh my God, I can't believe we all lost our minds over this.

1124
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,720
We did because it was that, wasn't it?

1125
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,560
You think even like Assassin's Creed 2.

1126
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,120
Yeah, I wanna remember it how I remember it.

1127
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Yeah, and when you like,

1128
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,800
or my one for me is Killzone,

1129
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,400
which is PlayStation exclusive.

1130
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,920
It's dead now.

1131
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,760
I don't really know.

1132
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,200
I think Call of Duty and Battlefield killed it off.

1133
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,200
There just weren't enough people,

1134
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,080
but I really, really liked Killzone.

1135
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,520
Had a lot of fond memories playing those games.

1136
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,680
And when I first started playing them,

1137
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,440
I thought the graphics were incredible.

1138
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,720
They were crazy.

1139
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,440
And I haven't looked at what Killzone looks like now

1140
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,200
because I don't wanna spoil it for myself

1141
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,040
because I know it's not gonna look as good

1142
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,440
as I really thought it was.

1143
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,800
And that was the same with Assassin's Creed 2.

1144
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,040
In my head, when I was playing it, when it was current,

1145
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,880
I was like, yeah, this is fucking, this looks the tits.

1146
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,320
And then you go back and you play it now,

1147
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,400
because obviously that's what Mark was doing.

1148
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,400
And talking to him about it, and he's like, yeah,

1149
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,200
the graphics are, it's like they're shit.

1150
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,360
He was like, they're not good.

1151
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,640
I remember just like walking everywhere in Skyrim being like,

1152
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,640
oh my God, it's like I'm here.

1153
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,480
It's so real.

1154
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,320
Like it was, it was so fucking crispy.

1155
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,320
Like the sunset in Skyrim was like the beautiful,

1156
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,280
best thing I've ever seen on a game.

1157
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,400
And yeah, like, I mean, I appreciate she's still with us

1158
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600
in her various formats, dear Skyrim,

1159
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,120
for fucking 60 quid on the eShop.

1160
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:34,960
Oh, that's crazy.

1161
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Yeah, stop it.

1162
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Stop rinsing money.

1163
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,840
Like, and I couldn't-

1164
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,680
Give it away for free.

1165
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,480
It was on sale the other day for like 15 quid.

1166
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,320
And I was really thought about it.

1167
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,160
It was like, I'm not paying another penny.

1168
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,240
This game is like older than children

1169
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:49,120
that are in year nine.

1170
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,960
Like stop.

1171
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,440
Yeah, we've been over this is the fucking mods

1172
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,240
that are keeping that game alive.

1173
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:54,080
Yeah.

1174
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,440
But yeah, those experiences, I think stay with you,

1175
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080
especially if you're, you know, you're not a casual game.

1176
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,680
You do genuinely like, it is such a huge part of your life.

1177
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Yeah, I've never, so like Neil,

1178
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,000
has one of those like arcade gaming rigs,

1179
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,840
like the full on.

1180
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,520
And it's got like 10,000.

1181
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,160
I think I showed you the PDF once

1182
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,320
where he sent me over the PDF of all the games on it.

1183
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,840
And it was like 60 odd pages of just fucking games.

1184
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,280
And he absolutely loves that thing

1185
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,280
and plays it all the fucking time.

1186
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,280
And for me, if you give me something like that,

1187
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,320
that has all the old Ratchet and Clank's on it,

1188
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,440
all the Prince of Persia's,

1189
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,160
all the old Assassin's Creed's, the Uncharted,

1190
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,600
all hit and run, all the older games,

1191
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,360
fucking Destroy All Humans.

1192
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,720
I'm not interested in them.

1193
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,280
They're cool and I like them,

1194
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,640
but I know that I'll start playing them

1195
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,080
and I will get bored quickly

1196
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,080
because I know of the games that I've got now.

1197
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,920
You see what I mean?

1198
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,760
Yeah, but then did you not say

1199
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,880
when you were getting the Steam Deck,

1200
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,080
you were like, oh, I really wanna play

1201
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,040
all the Prince of Persia's.

1202
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,880
I do.

1203
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,720
And then I watched Gameplay

1204
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,520
and I was like, nah.

1205
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,200
Because I just know.

1206
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,280
I know that I'm not gonna be as interested

1207
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,120
as I once was.

1208
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,000
And I know this because I fucking loved Destroy All Humans.

1209
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,200
I loved them all.

1210
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,200
And they're on Game Pass.

1211
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,800
And I bought them on PlayStation as well.

1212
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,760
And playing them again,

1213
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,040
current from years of not playing them,

1214
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,320
they're just not as fun as I remembered them.

1215
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,440
They're very empty space.

1216
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,680
They're quite bland.

1217
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,600
The story isn't great.

1218
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,720
But at this time, fucking incredible.

1219
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,800
It's not taking away anything from those games.

1220
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,840
It's just now they don't hit the same markers.

1221
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,480
It's like with old movies, old CGI and stuff like that,

1222
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,040
or before CGI was a thing.

1223
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,520
It takes you out of that immersion, doesn't it?

1224
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,360
Perception and things like that.

1225
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,360
Whereas now you watch a movie and you go fucking hell.

1226
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,880
Like it's crazy.

1227
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,200
It doesn't take away from anything that's older.

1228
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,280
It's just I much prefer the shit that we've got now

1229
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,800
to the point where the older stuff,

1230
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,080
I'm not necessarily interested in investing time

1231
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,760
into it anymore because it served its purpose.

1232
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Yeah, yeah.

1233
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,160
But a lot of people do.

1234
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,000
That's what I'm saying.

1235
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,840
A lot of people still.

1236
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,680
You know what I found?

1237
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Maybe it kind of goes hand in hand.

1238
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,480
Like when my sisters were around a couple of weeks ago

1239
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,080
and we were on the, it's called Virtual Console.

1240
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,080
It has been for a long time.

1241
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Like, I don't actually know if it still is,

1242
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,400
but it used to be called Virtual Console in Nintendo.

1243
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,280
Because it's this concept of playing old shit

1244
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,520
on a new console.

1245
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,000
You can get it on 3DS, you can get it on the Wii, Wii U.

1246
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,440
But now they're called, I don't know,

1247
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,280
I can't remember what it's called.

1248
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,760
Anyway, irrelevant.

1249
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,680
And we sat and were playing,

1250
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,000
and some of them weren't great.

1251
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Some of them were so confusing.

1252
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,800
Because there's no instructions.

1253
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,200
When you think, these games used to come with,

1254
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,240
remember the thick ass manuals.

1255
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,360
You had to do some reading before you actually start playing.

1256
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,720
And obviously they're not there.

1257
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:10,560
They're gone.

1258
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,400
Yeah, fucking hell, yeah.

1259
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,920
Like God of War where you'd have the booklet

1260
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,080
and it would tell you the combos in the booklet

1261
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,720
because they weren't on the fucking start menu or anything.

1262
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,920
It's just like, oh my God, some of them are so fat.

1263
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,840
So fat.

1264
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,640
And yeah, but it was like that,

1265
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,440
I think because those kinds of games

1266
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,880
were games we used to play together.

1267
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,880
Even games on SP, like there was,

1268
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,960
I think it's like Treasure Planet.

1269
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,680
And Charlotte and I would play it,

1270
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,320
like we'd help each other,

1271
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,640
or she'd have a go and I'd have a go,

1272
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,840
sharing the same cartridge.

1273
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,160
And yeah, so that element of it,

1274
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,320
it was more fun playing it with her

1275
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,560
than me sitting on my own having a go.

1276
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,000
Maybe because it is kind of like that joint memory.

1277
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,840
It was quite funny though.

1278
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,040
You know the games that you progress,

1279
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,760
but you progress with a password?

1280
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1281
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,760
So there was no like,

1282
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,920
they were just ROM.

1283
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,240
Yeah, yeah.

1284
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,040
And I remember it was like,

1285
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,000
just British little children and the password,

1286
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,560
it was like a fancy T that kind of was like really curved.

1287
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,840
And we got stuck on this level for ages

1288
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,680
because we were typing in crumpet.

1289
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,840
It was trumpet.

1290
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,680
Oh.

1291
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Because they looked safe.

1292
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,440
And it was like, oh my God, we're so English.

1293
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,280
Like, oh, the password is crumpet.

1294
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,600
It's crumpet.

1295
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,160
It's crumpet.

1296
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,000
But yeah, and that I think now,

1297
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,600
how weird would that be where essentially,

1298
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,520
you have no real customization in the game at all.

1299
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,920
It's just you log on with this password

1300
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,360
because you're at that level and you go.

1301
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,200
Well, you think of the game.

1302
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,240
It was so weird.

1303
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,960
He's gonna kill me because I can't remember the name

1304
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,440
of the game that Ash was on about

1305
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,440
where you had to take, unplug the controller from one port

1306
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,440
and put it into the next port for the game to continue.

1307
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,080
Oh.

1308
00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,920
I can't remember.

1309
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,880
He's spoken about, I'll do a quick Google.

1310
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,960
But for the life of me, I can't,

1311
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,240
and he's gonna fucking kill me.

1312
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,360
I mean, I know when you used to have to do,

1313
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,800
it was like over two disks, like Rage 1

1314
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,160
is a double disker.

1315
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,120
Where you have to change.

1316
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Which is so weird now.

1317
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,280
Like, what the hell?

1318
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,920
If I can get to the end of a disk,

1319
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,920
and having to change over.

1320
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,760
Oh yeah.

1321
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,040
I fucking loved Rage 1 though.

1322
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,040
I'm not gonna be able to find it, am I?

1323
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Did anybody else like Rage 1?

1324
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Am I on that?

1325
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,800
I got it in a pre-owned game thing,

1326
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,000
years after it came out.

1327
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Ash, when you listen to this, mate,

1328
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,320
you'll have to fucking, you'll have to shine some light

1329
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,560
on it because I really, it's in one of the episodes.

1330
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,800
It's not that far back, but I can't remember it.

1331
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,640
Okay.

1332
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,480
I.

1333
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,160
You didn't play it, did you?

1334
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,000
What?

1335
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,840
Rage 1.

1336
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,680
No.

1337
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Rage was never my thing.

1338
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,280
Didn't play the latest Rage either.

1339
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,600
No, I didn't play the latest one, no.

1340
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,440
I didn't like it.

1341
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,280
Didn't like the look of it.

1342
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,920
But no, Rage 1, it was like,

1343
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,320
this is like stripping it down to its most basic level,

1344
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,640
but it was like Skyrim in a different skin.

1345
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,720
That's what I felt like.

1346
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:10,160
Very, I think, mate, it's not at all.

1347
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,480
Look at the Google images of Rage 1 so I can see.

1348
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,880
It's like a desert wasteland vibe.

1349
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,000
I thought it was great.

1350
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,680
I thought it was really great.

1351
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,800
I can't really remember.

1352
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,400
It's just like, I don't know, I just thought it was cool.

1353
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,560
I just thought it was cool.

1354
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,760
Was that Rage 1, yeah?

1355
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,600
Show me.

1356
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,760
It don't look bad, does it?

1357
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,480
I mean, yeah, I can't see.

1358
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Was that like Rage 1?

1359
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:33,560
Yeah.

1360
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Yeah, they look like the evil things out of Valheim.

1361
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,200
Yeah.

1362
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,040
It was good.

1363
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,080
It was all right.

1364
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,040
I don't, maybe I'll, no, I'm not about to say

1365
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,120
maybe I'll look at Rage 2

1366
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,800
because that did get shit reviews.

1367
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,320
Rage 3 is on Game Pass.

1368
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,000
There's a third one?

1369
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,840
Yeah.

1370
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,680
Is there?

1371
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,500
Is there a third one?

1372
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:52,340
No.

1373
00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:54,040
I feel like there is. Is there?

1374
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,880
Rage 3.

1375
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,040
I suppose you're just Googling.

1376
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:58,880
Oh.

1377
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,200
Oh no, is it Rage, no, it is Rage 2.

1378
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,920
Yeah, I don't remember there being a third one

1379
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,920
mainly because I don't think anyone really bought

1380
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,920
the second one.

1381
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,800
Maybe it is just Rage 3.

1382
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,000
Maybe Rage 2 is there.

1383
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Well, there's your little trip down memory lane.

1384
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,600
I'm fucking starving.

1385
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,440
Desperate for a week.

1386
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,280
Jesus Christ.

1387
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,440
Get me a car park.

1388
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,280
Right.

1389
00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:22,280
We went out on the lash last night

1390
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,760
and we did illegal activities by pissing in the car park

1391
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,120
because there was no toilets around.

1392
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,360
No, it was bad.

1393
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,200
Breaking the law.

1394
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,520
It was the best piss of my life.

1395
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,760
It was a good night out.

1396
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,920
It was fun, I had fun.

1397
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,840
Catch us on the Patreon, I guess.

1398
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120
Patreon.com forward slash watch the buttons.

1399
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,960
See you on the flip side.

1400
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,640
Get yourself some new content.

1401
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,600
We're gonna have some lunch

1402
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,160
and then we're gonna record that, eh?

1403
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,640
Yeah, what are we gonna talk about?

1404
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,480
Fuck knows.

1405
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,320
Do a teaser.

1406
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,640
Do a teaser, what are we gonna talk about?

1407
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,480
I don't know.

1408
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,320
Oh, okay.

1409
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,040
I'm gonna figure it out over lunch.

1410
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:52,880
Very well.

1411
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,720
Okay, well look out for that.

1412
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:55,680
We're gonna go and have some crumpets.

1413
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Yes.

1414
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,800
Right, speak to you all later, my little wormies.

1415
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,640
Bye.

1416
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:24,800
Metro.